@@CheezeLordI’ve been playing zeri for about 8 months(been playing league for only 8 months) but even through her weak stages it wasn’t really her being weak it’s more items that suited her. Shiv is getting nerfed next patch so we’ll see how that affects her
Zeri is getting nerfs in 14.7, since that Champion was only weak because people didn't rush Statikk on her. The Critical Strike buffs were more than enough to push her over the edge.
Cull start just isn't a thing for high elo though, you end up way too abusable by almost every botlane matchup and only some of the top Zeri players do it into very specific matchups. Even with cull start having a MUCH smaller game count it still also falls behind in winrate to the standard dorans pot start. There's a similar issue with your build priorities as well, statik into runaans is the correct top build but your alternative is NOT statik navori. The winrate AND pickrate falls heavily behind both S+R and Statik + Phantom Dancer, if you want to build navori on Zeri it almost requires that you build it 3rd+ item to not grief yourself.
I don’t like that you “blamed” the people for thinking she was weak, she got strong because multiple things happened at the same time that benefited zeri. Sure crit items got a tiny buff but Lethality and her major counters got nerfed to a more balanced spot. This allowed an already pretty good spot zeri to be extremely good with new patches.
I kind of disagree with the buff IE and last whisper items being placebo. As a Aphelios player I have been melting everyone after IE and LDR. The real deal, though, was support items, dirk, and mage components being hammered down this patch. Now I can fight as those “supports” can no longer oneshot me and I actually have a chance to get 3 items.
fr. saying that the IE and LDR changes are placebo or even minor is super ignorant to how impactful these items are for your damage as a crit adc. I had a caitlyn game where I saw myself doing 500 more damage on a juiced headshot crit compared to previous patch at full build. These buffs were not small in any way.
40% -> 50% is a 25% increase. MFDB doesn't even play the game anymore. He uses it for youtube to make some side money these days and that's it. Dude has no idea wtf he's talking about.@@tehSupernerd
Guys...this channel is selling an ad to buy their product, they're not gonna give you the real good info until you pay, lol. When was the last time you saw someone selling something, and just decided to randomly give it out for free?
Am i tripping I just looked at pros building her and no one like really no one builds cull first 95% dorans pot start over 332 games and it just does not seem good either because at least the higher you play you just completely give up the early lane.
Is building Alacrity really better than Overheal and bloodline? Zeri caps at 1.50 attack speed. I'm pretty sure; correct me if I'm wrong. Triumph is nice esp for gold, but I want to avoid dead stats.
@@fdash393 Yes Lethal tempo will give her bonus AD and attack speed; but she will cap at 1.50 attack speed. She scales off items and they give attack speed. So why would I pick a Alacrity rune when it will become a dead stat or where you will gain nothing from it?
@@omenlynx He already explained it to you... Zeri max attack speed → 1.50, but all the additional attack speed is converted into damage, both from runes and from items. Zeri love Alacrity beacuse in the mid-late game it gives her AD
Few questions: When do you go IE vs Navori; Same for PD and Runaan's? How do you feel about sorcery tree for movement speed vs tankier/low damage comps? Thanks for the vid, would love to have a more indepth view of item selection rather than "feel" based.
ie is strictly better than navori and so is hurricane, if you want to go celerity honestly i dont know why all zeri pro are adamant on going resolve scaling tank runes and not full late game scaling though i should note jdg ruler does exactly that: gathering storm absolute focus. but though i dont recommend it because you dont movementspeed runes especially with zeal 2nd item and stormrazor, if you really want to be funny you can try swifties statik shiv phantom dancer black cleaver, i saw a pro player do this once with berserkers and with swifties and celerity you get like 100 more ms than with a normal 1v9 build but still you are strictly dealing less damage so you could say this is good vs burst or tanks but in most cases you should just build either full damage with ie 3rd ldr 4th or go double lifesteal items 4th and 5th depending on whether they have good burst or cringe tanks. if you really want to go navori in some games i recommend doing it in games where you want to avoid fights because enemies have unkitable opponents like vi or garen + ghost that just run you down no matter how fast you go: navori is really just a good powerfarm item as it lets you get around the map more and it provides less dmg output on all of your abilities except passive and E on hit, meaning you just deal less dmg for having E's more and its notable that you already lose E cooldown from its passive alone as long as you land Q's and crit, so you never need navori in the first place, ive come to believe pro players just do it because it takes more skill to execute as it relies on more apm and all, though the item is strictly worse and you can see that by seeing every smurf zeri going ie to climb. also i want to note that the swifties zeri thing isnt a very smart build lol you kill your attack speed early and lock yourself out of legend bloodline as an option and without statik and pd you cant get max attack speed so only do that in normal games or something, furthermore if you wanna do this goofy move speed build you should go the MS shard too. in real games you should either go for stormrazor hurricane IE bt/ldr/shieldbow for the last 2 items with runes being either 2 2 1 3 precision or 2 1 3 2 precision with the secondaries either being gathering + absolute focus or conditioning + overgrowth statikshiv got nerfed hard and its only 200 less gold than storm instead of the previous 400, on leagueofitems it shows stormrazor with 52% and statik with 49% so i make my decision off of that, also stormrazor is strictly a better item for fights as the movespeed is broken, you just sacrifice 15% attack speed, gain 10 ad, lose some waveclear and gain a short version of jinx passive for 200 gold which i find worth it but you can make your deduction on that yourself.
cull? idk man I don't think so lane is already weak but her level 1is actually quite strong with dorans blade especially I'd rather not get rolled by running cull
You just have to play safer. At worst you use her stellar pushing power to start Dorans but shove first 3 waves to get a cheaters recall early and get Cull then.
you've gotta play to scale with Zeri. If you count on your level 1 or 2 but then dont get any kills or force enemy recall, you'll just be behind as opposed to cull giving you the extra gold.
do not start cull in ur lanes guys -3 ad -100 hp at level 1 thats like 15-20% less hp...
ive loved playing zeri since she came out and I'm worried she is just gonna get nerfed to the ground again since she has been doing so well
enjoy it while it lasts :')
They have smolder to torture, Zeri should go under their radars
@@CheezeLordI’ve been playing zeri for about 8 months(been playing league for only 8 months) but even through her weak stages it wasn’t really her being weak it’s more items that suited her. Shiv is getting nerfed next patch so we’ll see how that affects her
Zeri is getting nerfs in 14.7, since that Champion was only weak because people didn't rush Statikk on her. The Critical Strike buffs were more than enough to push her over the edge.
@@omegaminoseer4539 even when she was weak I had a 63% wr on her with stormrazor/navori rush before static shiv got buffed again
Cull start just isn't a thing for high elo though, you end up way too abusable by almost every botlane matchup and only some of the top Zeri players do it into very specific matchups. Even with cull start having a MUCH smaller game count it still also falls behind in winrate to the standard dorans pot start. There's a similar issue with your build priorities as well, statik into runaans is the correct top build but your alternative is NOT statik navori. The winrate AND pickrate falls heavily behind both S+R and Statik + Phantom Dancer, if you want to build navori on Zeri it almost requires that you build it 3rd+ item to not grief yourself.
8:30 hardest combo in league
zeri mid otp mid emerald rn with a 70% winrate zeri is crazy atm love to see it
I don’t like that you “blamed” the people for thinking she was weak, she got strong because multiple things happened at the same time that benefited zeri. Sure crit items got a tiny buff but Lethality and her major counters got nerfed to a more balanced spot. This allowed an already pretty good spot zeri to be extremely good with new patches.
7:19 What is Yuumi doing?
She's beginning to believe
I kind of disagree with the buff IE and last whisper items being placebo. As a Aphelios player I have been melting everyone after IE and LDR.
The real deal, though, was support items, dirk, and mage components being hammered down this patch. Now I can fight as those “supports” can no longer oneshot me and I actually have a chance to get 3 items.
fr. saying that the IE and LDR changes are placebo or even minor is super ignorant to how impactful these items are for your damage as a crit adc. I had a caitlyn game where I saw myself doing 500 more damage on a juiced headshot crit compared to previous patch at full build. These buffs were not small in any way.
40% -> 50% is a 25% increase. MFDB doesn't even play the game anymore. He uses it for youtube to make some side money these days and that's it. Dude has no idea wtf he's talking about.@@tehSupernerd
Guys...this channel is selling an ad to buy their product, they're not gonna give you the real good info until you pay, lol. When was the last time you saw someone selling something, and just decided to randomly give it out for free?
Am i tripping I just looked at pros building her and no one like really no one builds cull first 95% dorans pot start over 332 games and it just does not seem good either because at least the higher you play you just completely give up the early lane.
Cull startvis troll ever since dorans items got giga buffed
Is building Alacrity really better than Overheal and bloodline? Zeri caps at 1.50 attack speed. I'm pretty sure; correct me if I'm wrong. Triumph is nice esp for gold, but I want to avoid dead stats.
She gets AD from bonus attack speed iirc
@@fdash393 Yes Lethal tempo will give her bonus AD and attack speed; but she will cap at 1.50 attack speed. She scales off items and they give attack speed. So why would I pick a Alacrity rune when it will become a dead stat or where you will gain nothing from it?
@@omenlynx You didn't understand. It is not a dead stat. Go read Zeri lolwiki.
@@omenlynx He already explained it to you...
Zeri max attack speed → 1.50, but all the additional attack speed is converted into damage, both from runes and from items.
Zeri love Alacrity beacuse in the mid-late game it gives her AD
@@allan_8680 Not gonna matter soon since Lethal Tempo is going away. She can get to 1.50 anyway with items and alacrity
7:17 what the Yuumi doing?
Riot server side bug
People have been teleporting left and right in some clips
Few questions: When do you go IE vs Navori; Same for PD and Runaan's? How do you feel about sorcery tree for movement speed vs tankier/low damage comps? Thanks for the vid, would love to have a more indepth view of item selection rather than "feel" based.
ie is strictly better than navori and so is hurricane, if you want to go celerity honestly i dont know why all zeri pro are adamant on going resolve scaling tank runes and not full late game scaling though i should note jdg ruler does exactly that: gathering storm absolute focus. but though i dont recommend it because you dont movementspeed runes especially with zeal 2nd item and stormrazor, if you really want to be funny you can try swifties statik shiv phantom dancer black cleaver, i saw a pro player do this once with berserkers and with swifties and celerity you get like 100 more ms than with a normal 1v9 build but still you are strictly dealing less damage so you could say this is good vs burst or tanks but in most cases you should just build either full damage with ie 3rd ldr 4th or go double lifesteal items 4th and 5th depending on whether they have good burst or cringe tanks.
if you really want to go navori in some games i recommend doing it in games where you want to avoid fights because enemies have unkitable opponents like vi or garen + ghost that just run you down no matter how fast you go: navori is really just a good powerfarm item as it lets you get around the map more and it provides less dmg output on all of your abilities except passive and E on hit, meaning you just deal less dmg for having E's more and its notable that you already lose E cooldown from its passive alone as long as you land Q's and crit, so you never need navori in the first place, ive come to believe pro players just do it because it takes more skill to execute as it relies on more apm and all, though the item is strictly worse and you can see that by seeing every smurf zeri going ie to climb.
also i want to note that the swifties zeri thing isnt a very smart build lol you kill your attack speed early and lock yourself out of legend bloodline as an option and without statik and pd you cant get max attack speed so only do that in normal games or something, furthermore if you wanna do this goofy move speed build you should go the MS shard too. in real games you should either go for stormrazor hurricane IE bt/ldr/shieldbow for the last 2 items with runes being either 2 2 1 3 precision or 2 1 3 2 precision with the secondaries either being gathering + absolute focus or conditioning + overgrowth
statikshiv got nerfed hard and its only 200 less gold than storm instead of the previous 400, on leagueofitems it shows stormrazor with 52% and statik with 49% so i make my decision off of that, also stormrazor is strictly a better item for fights as the movespeed is broken, you just sacrifice 15% attack speed, gain 10 ad, lose some waveclear and gain a short version of jinx passive for 200 gold which i find worth it but you can make your deduction on that yourself.
great now teach us how to play zeri without a yuumi support
Just ask for engage support or Healer? Rakan, braum, taric, janna, milio, rell, etc...
What the problem?
Fr
cull? idk man I don't think so lane is already weak but her level 1is actually quite strong with dorans blade especially I'd rather not get rolled by running cull
You just have to play safer. At worst you use her stellar pushing power to start Dorans but shove first 3 waves to get a cheaters recall early and get Cull then.
you've gotta play to scale with Zeri. If you count on your level 1 or 2 but then dont get any kills or force enemy recall, you'll just be behind as opposed to cull giving you the extra gold.
2 percent movespeed is slept on
Lethal Tempo is going away doesn't matter anymore
first strike.
Good video man XD
LMAO
Why such high dislikes?
what about titanic hydra?
not good on ranged champs in general
@@gash8995it was good on zeri, when the hexplate build was good
having a hard time knowing how much of this recent surge of zeri play is legit and how much is scripters