Thanks! I found a steal on an electric bathroom heater for $7. (store was discontinuing it) I thought for $7 if I get a couple years it paid for itself. It's now been around 7 YEARS and the little Pelonis (China ceramic heater) is still going strong! It's just getting loud and like you I am tight. If it breaks it's fine if owes me nothing. If I can quite it I just brought the beast back to it's former glory. One of the few things cheap things from China I'm impressed with. ($20 original cost I think)
I really appreciate your generosity by sharing the knowledge and experience you have with this type of problem, even if the original product was inexpensive and designed to be replaced rather than fixed. I don’t need something new and I don’t want to toss something into landfill because one piece of it has a problem that can be fixed with a bit if time and a drop of oil. This is a solution we should ALL be looking for. Yes, to save money but to save the planet, too. Thanks for doing what you can to make a difference for others.
EXACTLY what I needed to see for the kind of problem that shows up so frequently on different appliances! Thank you for the most CLEAR presentation out there!!!!
I let my bushing go for too long on my heater and nothing will stop the rattling. Thanks for teaching me what the issue was and now I can prevent this from happening again. Great vid
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. I had space heater that was making a horrible noise. Your fix worked perfectly. Much appreciated.
I've been doing this for years, since my father showed me as a kid. Most recently I did constant maintenance on my home AC compressor, which was installed in 1992. Finally replaced it last summer. I will always disassemble the motor so the bearings and shaft can be properly cleaned, scotchbrited, and used Motor Oil is perfect for this application. Thanks for publishing this knowledge.
This has to be one of the most useful videos on the subject that I've seen, was just what I needed to narrow down the problem with it - a client was having an issue with a 'flame effect' fan heater, where the cylinder fan was refusing to turn for the same reason. After lubrication and leaving it to soak, it came back to life - fitted some LED replacement bulbs too for the 'flame effect' after the halogen bulbs burnt out and works good now :)
I was happy to hear this could work on an already-seized fan. My Soleil space heater fan stopped running. Opened it up today, cleaned around it but didn’t get it to run. I’ll try some lube on the bushings and shaft - maybe white lithium grease (?) tomorrow. Fingers crossed. Thanks for the video!
This video is great. Like many others I like to tinker with stuff, but often I wonder how far I can go. Is this part safe to remove? Can I actually lubricate a motor? And then I find a video such as this one, and everything is clear. Thank you!
Nice share.. I have a blower fan on my wood stove fireplace that is quite noisy. I suspect I'll take a look at all my portable fans and heaters as well for a preventative look.
Thanks just used your technique. First used some 3 in 1 oil then put some antiseize with a toothpick in the bushing. It was a brand new and noisy walmart electric heater and now it is quiet!
My Titan Milk House space heater started making some very loud sounds yesterday! Not a good way to start the New Year! I will check to see if the fan still rotates - keep your fingers crossed! Thanks for the very informative video!
A few weeks ago I took all of mine apart and lubricated them again. One has spent three years in the shop, running continuously in the winter. I'll bet you can get yours going again.
I got one of these heaters and the fan is seized and not moving at all. Do you think I can put that fan to life again if I opened it and oiled it? Thanks for your helpful video.
It's worth a shot. There could be an electrical reason the fan is not working, which you could also check while you are there. If the problem is just lack of lubrication or dirt in the bushings, then a cleaning and some oil could well do the trick.
Do you think the thick engine gear lubricant grease can Do justice on this as well? I know itsvthicker but if you use a thin layer with a cue tip... maybe. If not then the engine oil, but my question how long does it last?
Most of these fans don't have much in the way of power and a thick grease could put a drag on the rotation or even prevent it from starting. And, lubricating the bushings helps prolong life but it isn't magic. These fans are designed to wear out and sooner or later they will. Probably sooner!
I believe every year or every 5 years the fan forced heaters need to be maintained anything that runs consistently and hase a life cycle just like anything
I have a wall heater (eg, like Cadet wall heater) that is so noisy (just a loud hum of the fan spinning) when it turns on with the fan spinning... I assume this would fix that noise?
Well, it might. However, it's also not uncommon for fans installed in walls or ceilings to have sympathetic vibrations with the the fan motor. I often see this in bathroom exhaust fans, for example. Basically the fan motor vibrations cause a resonance in either the wall/ceiling itself or the housing for the fan. All I can suggest is to take the unit apart and see what you find. If you can temporarily rig up the fan to run outside of the housing you may be able to tell something from that experiment.
As far as using it on a heater if I just use a little bit and let it dry it shouldn't be a issue of flammable right? Also I understand it's at my own risk.
If you are using an aerosol, such as WD-40, the propellant in the can itself could be flammable. You want to let that dissipate. Lubricating oils or greases are going to be fine, unless you dribble the stuff all over the heating coils themselves. Even then you'd probably get smoke, not fire. Just use the lubricant judiciously and be careful not to be messy and you'll be fine.
The fix can last awhile, but it depends on the particular unit and how often you use it. I have three utility space heaters with fans which I will oil once a year, and one of those runs 24x7 during the winter months. You might get longer from a cooling fan used less often. To be clear, sometimes a fan is just shot and no amount of oil will help. If the bushings are just worn out there's not much you can do about it.
I dont know if you noticed THEIRS FELT AROUND THE BUSHING YOU SHOULD HAVE SOAKED IT WITH OIL The felt is around the OUTSIDE OF THE BUSHING AND COULD USE SOME OIL .You were almost their with the heater .I TAKE MY MOTORS APART AND SOAK THE FELT AND BUSHINGS WIPE OFF EXCESS WITH A PAPER TOWEL PUT A FEW DROPS ON THE SHAFT AND REASSEMBLE. The side of the motor facing you should be marked so you dont reassemble it backwards ,if you do it will run backwards.
Some fan motors do have the felt you describe, but not all. Generally speaking, newer designs seem to have left that part out. Either way it's important to get the lubricant directly into where the shaft and bushing meet.
@@enduringcharm The black fan you have i just like mine its newer it an your heater had felt its hiding behind the spring cover pressed in holding the bushing i put a few drops of oil on the shaft before i reassemble but like to soak those bushings because they are porous bronze
I looked up your heater, and that is a radiant style device. There is no fan, it uses different principles to direct the heat. If it no longer works at all, it could be an electrical problem with the switch or different component. Not something I can diagnose from a distance and you may just need to buy a new heater since components are not readily available.
I'm not sure I follow your question, but I think you're asking about the strain relief grommet which protects the cord as it enters the body of the fan or heater? Those are typically just press fit into a slot. Once you separate the two halves of the body (or however the unit comes apart) then you can tug on the cord on either side of the grommet and it should pop right out.
Such a shame to see so much of them get thrown away when they are so simple to work on , Those fan motors for example can easily be oiled just by dropping a few drops of motor oil on the shaft on each end into the end bell sponges- I’ve done this also with squeaky bathroom vent fans works like a charm , Man thieve are just so easy to repair!
No oil? If you have a car you can pull the dipstick and drip oil from that! Of course, if you have a car you could probably drive to a store and buy some oil, too. Everybody should have a bottle of 3and1 oil if nothing else.
Try coating your finger with lip balm, and apply that to the bearing surface on the shaft. Other non-plant-based oils and greases will work fine, with varying lifespans: mineral oil for cutting boards; wheel bearing grease; used or new engine oil; vaseline; dielectric grease; etc. Plant-based oils don't hold up well to heat, quickly breaking down, becoming sticky and gumming up the works pretty bad.
I’ve been doing much the same thing about saving small motors, however I’ve found “fluid film” spray works like a permanent fix, the wax consistency of the lubricant continually in cases the bushing.
Wd-40 is not a lubricant, it’s the fastest way to destroy anything mechanical. Anyone and everyone who has ever done anything mechanical from engines to fans to bearings for roller skates all agree. It’s good to clean out bearings but you need a good oil after the fact.
Yes, I mentioned at 5:38 that WD-40 is not an ideal lubricant and won't last long. On the other hand, WD-40 does have uses as a lubricant in some cases where it would be impossible to get oil or grease into an area. The spray application can be useful to force the light oil into a space.
Yeah well I've just bought a direct replacement and it rattles from new....like the older one there is no way to open it up without cutting it open..not worth the hassle and time. Had years of service from the old one which failed on a twist switch snap ...planned obsolescence....£25 or not it's annoying
You gotta love guys like this that create a how-to video just to help others.... excellent video.
Planned obsolescence sucks. Thanks for sharing your tips on saving money and our landfills.
Thanks! I found a steal on an electric bathroom heater for $7. (store was discontinuing it)
I thought for $7 if I get a couple years it paid for itself.
It's now been around 7 YEARS and the little Pelonis (China ceramic heater) is still going strong! It's just getting loud and like you I am tight.
If it breaks it's fine if owes me nothing. If I can quite it I just brought the beast back to it's former glory.
One of the few things cheap things from China I'm impressed with. ($20 original cost I think)
I really appreciate your generosity by sharing the knowledge and experience you have with this type of problem, even if the original product was inexpensive and designed to be replaced rather than fixed.
I don’t need something new and I don’t want to toss something into landfill because one piece of it has a problem that can be fixed with a bit if time and a drop of oil.
This is a solution we should ALL be looking for. Yes, to save money but to save the planet, too. Thanks for doing what you can to make a difference for others.
Thank you! I agree, we could be doing a lot more fixing and a lot less tossing.
BTW I took apart my infrared heater and “fixed” the fan by cleaning and piling the ends of the spindle. So simple and FREE! Works like new!
EXACTLY what I needed to see for the kind of problem that shows up so frequently on different appliances! Thank you for the most CLEAR presentation out there!!!!
I let my bushing go for too long on my heater and nothing will stop the rattling. Thanks for teaching me what the issue was and now I can prevent this from happening again. Great vid
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. I had space heater that was making a horrible noise. Your fix worked perfectly. Much appreciated.
That's great! We can get a lot more life out of these heaters with a little maintenance.
I've been doing this for years, since my father showed me as a kid. Most recently I did constant maintenance on my home AC compressor, which was installed in 1992. Finally replaced it last summer.
I will always disassemble the motor so the bearings and shaft can be properly cleaned, scotchbrited, and used Motor Oil is perfect for this application.
Thanks for publishing this knowledge.
It's funny how things like this used to be commonly done, but nowadays most just use it up and throw it out.
enduringcharm I'm a tight a$$ too!
Have you done anything for Smart Homes? I'm big into that.
Haven't had that opportunity yet.
Man this video has been helping me throughout the years : ) I've done this twice and I can say this has positively impacted my life greatly! Thanks!!!
That's great--a little oil or grease can go a long way!
This has to be one of the most useful videos on the subject that I've seen, was just what I needed to narrow down the problem with it - a client was having an issue with a 'flame effect' fan heater, where the cylinder fan was refusing to turn for the same reason. After lubrication and leaving it to soak, it came back to life - fitted some LED replacement bulbs too for the 'flame effect' after the halogen bulbs burnt out and works good now :)
Great to hear!
I was happy to hear this could work on an already-seized fan. My Soleil space heater fan stopped running. Opened it up today, cleaned around it but didn’t get it to run. I’ll try some lube on the bushings and shaft - maybe white lithium grease (?) tomorrow. Fingers crossed. Thanks for the video!
Thanks when I opened it the coils were so full of crap no wonder the fan had trouble. Mind you it was a heater I found. Works nice and quiet.
Thank you so much! You are a blessing. Just fixed my noisy comfort zone ceramic heater with WD 40. So easy!
"I'm so tight I squeak when I walk" Wow never heard that one before lol.
This video is great. Like many others I like to tinker with stuff, but often I wonder how far I can go. Is this part safe to remove? Can I actually lubricate a motor? And then I find a video such as this one, and everything is clear. Thank you!
Nice share.. I have a blower fan on my wood stove fireplace that is quite noisy. I suspect I'll take a look at all my portable fans and heaters as well for a preventative look.
Thanks just used your technique. First used some 3 in 1 oil then put some antiseize with a toothpick in the bushing. It was a brand new and noisy walmart electric heater and now it is quiet!
Thank you thank you!! Got my lakewood heater nice and quiet again!
Glad it helped!
Great video, Jonathan. Much appreciate the work. Very helpful.
So helpful! Thank you...I'd been wondering how to get rid of the rattling, and where it was safe to lube.
Helpful advice, fan is running again! Thank you
Thank you. Mine was making a squeaky noise and then seized up after a week. I’ll buy oil tomorrow
My Titan Milk House space heater started making some very loud sounds yesterday! Not a good way to start the New Year! I will check to see if the fan still rotates - keep your fingers crossed! Thanks for the very informative video!
A few weeks ago I took all of mine apart and lubricated them again. One has spent three years in the shop, running continuously in the winter. I'll bet you can get yours going again.
Excellent video. Exactly what I needed!
Now my heater is blowing air so quietly, thanks a lot.
I plan on opening up my electric shop heaters and giving them a shot of oil next week so I'll be ready for winter!
Great info, awesome tutorial thank you!
thank you. I just fixed my mother's. thank you so much
You're welcome!
Very good.. Thank you. And I will remember this always.. Now I know where to oil.. lol..
I got one of these heaters and the fan is seized and not moving at all. Do you think I can put that fan to life again if I opened it and oiled it? Thanks for your helpful video.
It's worth a shot. There could be an electrical reason the fan is not working, which you could also check while you are there. If the problem is just lack of lubrication or dirt in the bushings, then a cleaning and some oil could well do the trick.
Exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks
Thanks John. Great tips.
Worked for me, I fixed my heater's fan
Do you think the thick engine gear lubricant grease can Do justice on this as well? I know itsvthicker but if you use a thin layer with a cue tip... maybe. If not then the engine oil, but my question how long does it last?
Most of these fans don't have much in the way of power and a thick grease could put a drag on the rotation or even prevent it from starting. And, lubricating the bushings helps prolong life but it isn't magic. These fans are designed to wear out and sooner or later they will. Probably sooner!
I believe every year or every 5 years the fan forced heaters need to be maintained anything that runs consistently and hase a life cycle just like anything
Hell yea...jus brought a kerosene tube heater.....thought moter was going bad....sprayed blaster on it n it freed up....
$2 fix thanks
Beautiful, Thanks a lot for encouraging, and inspiring :)
I have a wall heater (eg, like Cadet wall heater) that is so noisy (just a loud hum of the fan spinning) when it turns on with the fan spinning... I assume this would fix that noise?
Well, it might. However, it's also not uncommon for fans installed in walls or ceilings to have sympathetic vibrations with the the fan motor. I often see this in bathroom exhaust fans, for example. Basically the fan motor vibrations cause a resonance in either the wall/ceiling itself or the housing for the fan. All I can suggest is to take the unit apart and see what you find. If you can temporarily rig up the fan to run outside of the housing you may be able to tell something from that experiment.
Thanks for posting....great info
As far as using it on a heater if I just use a little bit and let it dry it shouldn't be a issue of flammable right? Also I understand it's at my own risk.
If you are using an aerosol, such as WD-40, the propellant in the can itself could be flammable. You want to let that dissipate. Lubricating oils or greases are going to be fine, unless you dribble the stuff all over the heating coils themselves. Even then you'd probably get smoke, not fire. Just use the lubricant judiciously and be careful not to be messy and you'll be fine.
Only had mine for 2 weeks, sounds like a klaxon horn when I turn it on, not fun for the neighbours....How long does this fix last?
The fix can last awhile, but it depends on the particular unit and how often you use it. I have three utility space heaters with fans which I will oil once a year, and one of those runs 24x7 during the winter months. You might get longer from a cooling fan used less often. To be clear, sometimes a fan is just shot and no amount of oil will help. If the bushings are just worn out there's not much you can do about it.
I dont know if you noticed THEIRS FELT AROUND THE BUSHING YOU SHOULD HAVE SOAKED IT WITH OIL The felt is around the OUTSIDE OF THE BUSHING AND COULD USE SOME OIL .You were almost their with the heater .I TAKE MY MOTORS APART AND SOAK THE FELT AND BUSHINGS WIPE OFF EXCESS WITH A PAPER TOWEL PUT A FEW DROPS ON THE SHAFT AND REASSEMBLE. The side of the motor facing you should be marked so you dont reassemble it backwards ,if you do it will run backwards.
Some fan motors do have the felt you describe, but not all. Generally speaking, newer designs seem to have left that part out. Either way it's important to get the lubricant directly into where the shaft and bushing meet.
@@enduringcharm The black fan you have i just like mine its newer it an your heater had felt its hiding behind the spring cover pressed in holding the bushing i put a few drops of oil on the shaft before i reassemble but like to soak those bushings because they are porous bronze
Hello sir,
My Profusion H5511 dosen't do anything when I try to turn it on any ideas what could be wrong with it?
Thanks in advance.
I looked up your heater, and that is a radiant style device. There is no fan, it uses different principles to direct the heat. If it no longer works at all, it could be an electrical problem with the switch or different component. Not something I can diagnose from a distance and you may just need to buy a new heater since components are not readily available.
How do you remove the power cord from the heater shell? The little black circle that seems to hold it on place.
I'm not sure I follow your question, but I think you're asking about the strain relief grommet which protects the cord as it enters the body of the fan or heater? Those are typically just press fit into a slot. Once you separate the two halves of the body (or however the unit comes apart) then you can tug on the cord on either side of the grommet and it should pop right out.
Use the blue 3in1 its designed for electric motors
Such a shame to see so much of them get thrown away when they are so simple to work on ,
Those fan motors for example can easily be oiled just by dropping a few drops of motor oil on the shaft on each end into the end bell sponges- I’ve done this also with squeaky bathroom vent fans works like a charm ,
Man thieve are just so easy to repair!
What do I do if I don’t have any oil
No oil? If you have a car you can pull the dipstick and drip oil from that! Of course, if you have a car you could probably drive to a store and buy some oil, too. Everybody should have a bottle of 3and1 oil if nothing else.
Try coating your finger with lip balm, and apply that to the bearing surface on the shaft. Other non-plant-based oils and greases will work fine, with varying lifespans: mineral oil for cutting boards; wheel bearing grease; used or new engine oil; vaseline; dielectric grease; etc.
Plant-based oils don't hold up well to heat, quickly breaking down, becoming sticky and gumming up the works pretty bad.
I’ve been doing much the same thing about saving small motors, however I’ve found “fluid film” spray works like a permanent fix, the wax consistency of the lubricant continually in cases the bushing.
Wd-40 is not a lubricant, it’s the fastest way to destroy anything mechanical. Anyone and everyone who has ever done anything mechanical from engines to fans to bearings for roller skates all agree. It’s good to clean out bearings but you need a good oil after the fact.
Yes, I mentioned at 5:38 that WD-40 is not an ideal lubricant and won't last long. On the other hand, WD-40 does have uses as a lubricant in some cases where it would be impossible to get oil or grease into an area. The spray application can be useful to force the light oil into a space.
Yeah well I've just bought a direct replacement and it rattles from new....like the older one there is no way to open it up without cutting it open..not worth the hassle and time. Had years of service from the old one which failed on a twist switch snap ...planned obsolescence....£25 or not it's annoying
Not going to take it apart!!!!!!
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