I have a CASE Farmall 65A I have owned it since Jan. 2021. I run a horse ranch with 65 horses and use this tractor every single day. I love it and it has been problem free through 8 months. It's a workhorse and I have no complaints about the tractor. I do not love the loader which I have had to replace the control unit on because it was sticking but the tractor is awesome. Sorry for your experience but you got a lemon and you have a shit dealer. Our friends have two of the 75A series, one a year old and one 4 years old and they have not had a single repair. The Seat is worn out on the 2018 because it's used so often. Still no repairs on either one... CNH sent a new control unit for the LOADER during Covid and it arrived in 4 days. Best of luck
We have a 2018 110C with almost 500 hrs. We haven’t had any problems besides DEF and was fixed under warranty. But yes I have problems with the Dealership.
Yeah, they did that out of spite. I'm sure you are so very important to them that they can't get you off of their mind. You are so very special (in your mind).
If you had dealt with them for a year like I did, you would understand my situation much better. Only watching this one video doesn't give you any insight into the whole situation 🙂
What was actually wrong with the tractor itself? It seems like the entire video is describing bad customer service experience more than it is describing problems with the motor, tranny, PTO, hydraulics, electric, usability, etc.
This particular tractor only had one issue during the 4 hours I owned it. I had two other brand new tractors, one of which was at the dealer for over 4 months. I made a bunch of videos as the chaos unfolded so you would have to go back and watch them if you want all the details.
It sucks that the quality of stuff has went down hill . People spend a bunch of money on junk now . I seen others have the same problems like you and it's not just Case .
Glad to hear you're a big step closer to getting your situation resolved. I remember how disappointed I was after I bought a brand new JX95 about 13 or 14 years ago and the darn thing was broke all the time. We got rid of it after about 3 years. Sometimes you just need to cut your losses.
I bought a 2016 35c a gentleman that bought it brand new it only had 40 hrs when I got it I have had front wheel bearing and wheel seal leaks I have been in it 4 times in 3 years.
FPT 3.2L 4-cyl diesel is Fiat PowerTrain is the Case IH Farmall 75A. ISM 2.2L 4-cyl diesel CaseIH Farmall 55A Engine so whatever ISM is that is the difference.
Man it sucks having to deal with that kind of BS, i feel for ya, You would think CNH would be embarrassed by those dealers of theirs yet they are part of the problem. I have an 08 Kubota M108X, I absolutely love it, all ive ever done is put a water pump in it. I hope you get things straightened out and get yourself into a tractor you feel better about! Have a good day Chris.
So what is the problem with the C series tractor.. I'm looking at a 110c that something came loose in the engine and the dealership is currently fixing it.. it will be covered under warranty but if there is something problematic with them I don't want to get into it
need to find a massey 4707! hopefully it will treat you great. we have had nothing but good response from customers. you know that the guys at the shop have you labeled.
I am unfortunately going through similar problems with my massey 4710 so wouldn't recommend at least I have an amazing dealer but still spent 8 grand on the def system in it
Dealers like that everywhere for everything it’s amazing they stay in business. Will be interesting to see what you decide to go with for a replacement.
DeHaven Family Farm my vote would be Massey but I have no idea what your dealer is like for them lol. It’s still red so it matches the other tractors 😁
that's why kubota grow bigger and adding more new dealers wich they have 500,000 kubota dealers all over 380 countries in the world wich keeping on growing more :)
Thanks for the update on the deal and its up to you as to what you want to share and I understand its just a double whammy when you get poor dealer service on top of a bad product. I just had a big sit down with some case guys since my Dealer is getting big pressure from CNH to Drop the Kubota Line now since they have a 200 horse tractor which is a threat to there sales they seem to think . I have won this 1st battle to keep Kubota on for now but I am sure they will find a way to push it out. But anyhow good luck in your next good tractor whatever it may be lol as long as its not Green lol too bad we cant get Fendts here in the category you need yet
I work for a new holland and kubota dealer. 90% is new holland t4 major repairs . They do suck for parts. Horrid to deal with for manuals and actual answers. Waiting on injector lines and wiring harness on a brand new t4.110f .its a 120k $ orchard tracror. Been there for about 1 year. Customer is overly pissed. Which i would be too. Being a mechanic for the brand its alot to deal with. Stuff is out of my control . I juat fix the problems . There very complex machines. Deaigns are super flawed in so many ways. CNH is not quick to get even the basic parts and we next day air them . Still takes 3 days to show up . I try to stick to kubota side of things but when 90% of our workload is new holland you have no choice but to work on them. Kubota has half the issues. They still have some. But not super apparent like any CNH product.
I’m looking forward to hearing about your experience with CNH. I’m glad you got a tractor to use. There definitely being a smart a$$ by setting the wheels out that far.
@@dehavenfamilyfarm if ya bought a case from my kubota dealer you be having have best luck with it plus my kubota and case dealer usually set it up way what ever customers wants plus he makes it a nice tidy setup not messed up wich hes pretty smart dealer
@@michaelmactavish1728 we know all about your dealers, deals, and one of kind rebates from every channel you watch just wish we could get those in the real world.
I agree- but they went to wide. Now doing some types of grading and material moving would be very difficult with the tires so much wider than the bucket.
I bought a new TN75DA New Holland for a utility tractor and it was nothing but a headache. The dealer nor the company would fix the problems I had with it, so I feel your pain. There will never be another NH tractor on my farm. If they gave me one; it would set where they unloaded it, cause I wouldn't take the time to move it.
Yeah, I have heard mixed reviews on some of the new deere stuff, especially the E series. A lot of people seem to like the new Massey tractors. I would really consider one, but my closest dealer is almost two hours away. Good luck with finding a new tractor!
@@marksmotorsportsandfarming7376 ive always bleed green until the last 2 tractors these have spent more time in the shop than running what really pushed me away I had the front axle fall out from under mine going down the road
Thats too bad today the mahor brands case ih, deere, Kubota, ls, tym, and on and on are all very comparable and the difference is the dealerships and service availability, yah some cost more than others and some cost alot more than others (im looking at you greene) haha . I still have my grandfather's 1985 international harvester 584 and that things a beast. But thats back when tractors were made for work and farming. Today theyve almost caught up to vehicles where the price is out of control cause they put heated seats and stupid $10,000 tailgates on a truck. Im glad i have that old 584 and pre emissions 40hp Kubota for a loader tractor. But ive often wanted wider stance on my Kubota, especially in the rear but with the tires being filled and 5ft tall havent gotten the ambition to mess with unbolting the rims and whatnot to flip them around, it was alot easier to just get wheel weights haha.
Truly unfortunate. Dealer support is really important. I prefer green but run mostly red because the parts and service support is so much better in our area. It hasn't always been that way. Ownership changes and new management sometimes forget who the customers are.
Whoa, that's a beauty man! Nice that they ponied up for you with the upgrade but sucks about the whole process! Good luck on the sale or trade in! Go Branson!!
Wow... Crazy Stuff... Case IH... Great Brand,, or Atleast it once was? ...I recently Bought A New 50 HP Tractor, Loader.. I researched and re-researched Again, an Again... Where it's Made, Parts Buying ifff needed... I looked at Green, Orange, Blue, Red Brands, multiple of brands of color's... Mahindra Tractor, Loader I went with.. Reason Being..price, quality of the material visible to the eye... Real Metal.. Translates to Weight, and Lift Capacity... I went with a Clutch, Standard Shift stick transmission, all very reliable, no over crazy electronics, Now History shows, Mahindra Tractor, Paired with Willy's Jeep making WWll, International Harvester it paired with... I've got near 75 hours on it.. Mainly excavation, dirt work on property... I'm over the moon, no issues.. Reliability is Everything... I respect our Farmers, From cattle to crop, livestock... Mahindra is worth A look.. 7 year PowerTrain Warranty.. 2 year Bumper to Bumper.. What I can see in my 50 HP model I selected and wasn't pushed to buy.. It's Old School Raw Power.. Well built.. Maybe Old ain't so bad..
Kind of seems like you just had a bad experience with the Dealer and among some other small things, seems like you kind of went out of your way to roast the tractor when most of the problems are just bad dealer related. Ive heard a lot of positive things about CASEIH Dealers usually they are a lot better then Deere dealers. But it definitely seems like in this case the dealer just failed at there responsibilities.
The dealer definitely wasn't helpful, but over the course of my situation I had three brand new tractors in my possession- two different 55As and the 75A. They all had multiple issues within the first few hours of use- some of which required the tractor to be split into three pieces to repair. I think they had major quality control issues. Hopefully they have them figured out by now..
@@dehavenfamilyfarm That's unfortunate, I know a lot of it has to do with the dealer and how they manage problems with equipment. Sometimes that equipment comes damaged to the dealer or has some bugs that need to be sorted which is normal with new equipment, Lots of moving parts but how the dealer deals with them is the real difference. No equipment is perfect.
Hi Chris I have a 1984 International 785xl and everything works great apart from the hand brake and it is still well capable of doing a hard day's work 💪,what's the chances of your new tractor working for 36years and still being able to earn it's keep I think we both no the answer to that 😂
Omg, It says Whites on the sticker. Where did you pick it up from? So sorry you went through all this. Really like your farming videos. Maybe we'll try to finance a mahindra or something as we are trying to start farming.
That is disappointing and annoying to be let down so badly that your brand loyalty has been so damaged it drives you to want to get rid of a higher rated brand new tractor for another brand! A big own goal by CNH. I am sure AGCO, John Deere and Kubota will welcome you and try to get your business! Good luck.
Well a 75hp tractor is definitely more marketable than a 55! I'm glad they finally stepped up for you, but I can definitely understand why you're going to get rid of it. I would too! Maybe you can find yourself a good early 2000's model NH or Case IH with low hours like I did, for half the price. I'd have a hard time buying anything new right now. From what I hear they're all kinda junk. On second thought a good friend of mine has a 2019 JD 5065E and has had a great experience with it at over 200 hours.
I am definitely considering an older tractor. Really depends on what I can find quickly. I am glad your tractor has worked out for you- I agree the new ones are a lot of money!
@@dehavenfamilyfarm Yes, I priced out a Case IH 100c and it was about $58k. I think anything pre-Tier 4 emissions is probably good to go in that tractor size.
You sure had to jump through all type of circus hoops to get things finalized. I hope you get a tractor that is dependable but more importantly is finding a dealership that stands behind their business and cares about their customers. A tractor is the pricey investment and I do not have that kind of money to throw around. Had I not purchased a Massey years ago, I probably would have gone with Deere or (believe it or not....Case) b/c that's what we used at home. Congrats and wish you the best finding a dealership you can trust. Thank you for making this video.
I’m glad you finally got it resolved. Man I hate that you had such a experience.You can bring the tractor here and pick up the rebaler. Lol. Have a good one
We wouldn't be friends anymore if I brought you this tractor- it would break down every five minutes and you would be mad at me! LOL I am still interested in that rebaler!
@@dehavenfamilyfarm ours same way wich why where thinking about replacing them with all kubotas wich there way more reliable and parts are cheaper and affordable
@@michaelsauser1482 there ol is cheaper too at kubota $27.52 for 5 liter jug wich deeres are $56.90 for small 4 liter and newhollands are $106.00 for 4liters of 10 w 30
Seems like the people at the dealer ship don't give a rats ass about their customers. I've got a 2000 tn 75 from new holland, got 3500 hours on it and I never had a big problem with it. Just an busted hydraulic line, and that's pretty much it. Could easily fix it myself.
Oh I'll believe the story you tell lol! What's gonna be your next choice? Wheel width is definitely in spite... like the dealer doesn't care. Sounds like some dealerships we've had run-ins with too.
That’s not good. CNH needs to get its act together IMHO, if you follow DLH Farm, that guy has burnt through a New Holland T4 and T5 and who knows how many thousands of dollars. I think he has a decent MF and JD now. Don’t know what kind of PTO hp you’re looking for, we run a 2014 JD 5055d and it has been an excellent tractor, just over 50 PTO hp and no emissions. They are available used with low hours if you look around. We use ours to bale with as you’ve probably seen on our channel. It can be fitted with a front end loader. My brother has a JD 5045E with I believe the 512 loader. It is 2 wd drive like my JD and aside from from dealer set-up issues, has proven to be a great tractor too. Good luck!
Thanks! Yes I do watch DLH Farms. I did miss the problems with the T4, but have been a viewer long enough to see the problems with the T5. CNH is turning into a joke...
Dealerships, salesmen in particular; want high dollar corporate size farm accounts….small guys?? They know you’re probably going to buy one tractor and MAYBE a few service calls in the course of your life sooooo…….they sell you a tractor and that’s that because they want to woo and fawn over people trading combines every year and buying tractors every 3 or 4 years and so on. This isn’t always true but sadly it often is.
I have a kubota M7060 and it works great for our farm all we us it for is making hay. They also came out with a M4 which is 70-75 horse as well. It nicer than the M7060 but I think cost more. Might be worth looking into for a hay and loader tractor the M7060 has been great for us. Just my opinion. Was looking into the same tractor u have glad I didn’t get it sounds like CNH has a problem and won’t admit it. Like u videos keep up the good work.
Thank you! I looked at the M6040 before I bought the Case tractor. I am a big fan of Kubota, but thought the M6040 felt very dated- I don't think they have updated it for over 10 years lol I am looking at a M4, but they are a little pricey. You made the right tractor choice!
@@dehavenfamilyfarm were looking at a m4 as well for replacing our junk newholland wich alot issues wich why where going with kubota plus kubotas gives cash instant rebates and best warranty
Just looked at the M4 the other day was nice and has more room then the M7060. Didn’t get the price on it but it look like it would cost more. The kubota’s do feel a little out dated but if u look at the JD E series or NH Workmaster they are pretty much the same. We also looked at MF they looked nice didn’t get to test drive or anything the dealer only want to sell sub compact tractors never got back to us about a price.
@@rothamfarm1682 here at my dealer in canada is around $49,000 for the m4 with loader,bucket,forks and a snowblower package plus $2,500 customers instant rebate with 6 year warranty free
TNR Red Angus own a JD and a Kubota that we us for making hay. Love them both but have to admit I’d buy another kubota M7060 or there new M4 series tractor over JD. The E series JD are over priced and the M series WAY over priced but good tractors. But they aren’t worth as much as they are, your just paying for the name and color. But can’t go wrong with either one it just depends on what your budget is. It just my opinion.
I agree its personnel preference for sure. We have a 7400 with 20000 7600 with 18000 on it. Never have touched either motor yet. I don't like the E series either. Nice talking to you sir Take Care
Will say this the older JDs I like we had a 3020 and a 3010 loved them. Traded one in for a JD 5303 and 2 years ago traded 3020 to got the M7060. Miss them and I will say the old tractors aren’t like the new tractors.
My brother bought a new JD with loader and bush hog. He wanted to trade back in for a larger tractor. Guess what dealer refused to deal. Green tractor dealer not so good.
I am not sure about the back wheel but aren't the fronts just put the rims on one way or the other like offset one way or the other? As far as I know that is the only width adjustment you can do probably same with back wheels . So probably it wasnt spite it was just the only option if you wanted it wider
With both the front and back rims, there are multiple adjustments. You can mount the rims on either side of the center dish as well as rotate the dishes- if that makes sense. Hard to explain without showing a pic or video lol
We set all of our tractors like that so they can stay on the hills sounds like you have a sorry dealer. I have had 3 farmalls and we run 2k acres and have zero issues out of them 🤣🤣🤣but I don't buy new ones the crap that's on these tractors of any color is shocking. I stay from 2012 and down. We have farmall 70s 120s, case 1896, 1370,1570, puma 140, kubota m108x and saving the fastest most reliable unit of them all for last kubota m9540 the best thing running if it won't go you can kiss your season good bye my thoughts have a good one
Good video bub. I had a 2015 farmall 55a, great powerhouse. It was the last year model w/o def or dpf filter. That tractor was a beast. Unfortunately I had to down size, so I went green lol. I miss the power the case had, but my opinion, Deere has the market on subcompact utility tractors. Maybe try green. Good luck to ya.
I have been about to bite on a brand new 75c. I am in the logging biz and I have some good JD equipment but I love red tractors....After your experience would you go green with a new tractor?
I did another video outlining my whole, year long experience with this manufacturer if you want more details. I am not sure what brand to suggest you buy, but I can tell you because of the quality and lack of support from the dealer and manufacturer, I will not be buying another new cnh tractor. I think you should buy a tractor from a manufacturer that you have had a good experience with, in my opinion. Hope this helps!
Thanks I will seek out your vid that you are talking about. If your main problem is the dealer I may be okay with Case. I also have a case dozer and Case and Link Belt excavators, which are the same other than paint. And Southern Farm Supply in NC has been excellent in everything I have needed from them. They have even been excellent at crossing over into my heavy equipment which is great since they are much closer to me than a Case or Link Belt construction dealer.
@@timberslasher4899 My main problem was the tractor was a piece of crap and was broken on and off for the better part of a year. Secondary to that was the manufacturer providing parts and support to the dealer in a timely manner, and lastly the way the dealer poorly handled the whole situation. I have very little confidence in cnh providing satisfactory support for any product they sell lol
Thanks for the insight... I have had a couple ol Olivers and an Industrial MF but Idk much about new tractors. Haven't had a need for one until recently when I acquired a good bit more land to maintain. Main reason I am shopping new is that I want a cab and I don't want one that has already started to develop problems such as A/C problems etc.
@@dehavenfamilyfarm yeah they're not cheap but you should still have better luck with Deere than you did with the case IH making it worth the investment
It is hilly here, but not enough to warrant the wheels being set that wide lol If I were to put a big enough bucket to be the same width as the tires on there, and something broke on the loader, the warranty would not cover it. The new bucket would have to be almost 8 feet wide 🙂
I am not sure I would like a T4. Last I knew they didn't use a park brake, but a park position on the range lever- which can be annoying. Thanks for watching!!
The original Farmall 55A I bought in Jan of 2019 had around 55-60 hours on it when they picked it up in August of 2019. I did look at a green tractor, but the price was a little higher than my budget lol
@@dehavenfamilyfarm ive had the m7060 tractor its a awesome hay tractor, i now have the m5111 with almost 800 hours now...great machine buddy of mine is ditching hise new case 120 farmal for a m5111 , likes its lots better for 20k less...also have a z323 zero turn, 3pt disc mower...im a big fan been putting 500 acres a year on them with great success.....give em a shot
You should find an old Ford 8n (or something of that sort) fix it up and find a loader for it they don’t have as much horsepower but they are very reliable newer tractors are just shit
I could not possibly put everything that happened in one video. I documented the entire year long journey. If you want to see the entire story in detail, go back through my videos- I believe there are at least 6. The whole ordeal cost me over $20,000 plus the original price of the tractor, so definitely not a Karen.
What exactly is bad about the farmall tractors? I was talking to a local and he said the same thing, but didnt give me any reasoning like the guy in this video. Also, your name is Farmall Fanatic wtf?
@@DmgNeville everything about them is junk! They arent real Farmall tractors! Foreign cheap made garbage that you have to take in for service at least once a month for something constantly going wrong. They are Farmall in name only!
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Strange video. You complained because the axles are too wide. That makes you seem like the problem.
Glad I went with my Massey 2606H. Haven't had a lick of trouble out of it.
Out of spite? No, a real farmer knows the wider the better for stability. Also, 72 inch is ideal for row crops.
I have a CASE Farmall 65A I have owned it since Jan. 2021. I run a horse ranch with 65 horses and use this tractor every single day. I love it and it has been problem free through 8 months. It's a workhorse and I have no complaints about the tractor. I do not love the loader which I have had to replace the control unit on because it was sticking but the tractor is awesome. Sorry for your experience but you got a lemon and you have a shit dealer. Our friends have two of the 75A series, one a year old and one 4 years old and they have not had a single repair. The Seat is worn out on the 2018 because it's used so often. Still no repairs on either one... CNH sent a new control unit for the LOADER during Covid and it arrived in 4 days.
Best of luck
We have a 2018 110C with almost 500 hrs. We haven’t had any problems besides DEF and was fixed under warranty. But yes I have problems with the Dealership.
I was looking at getting a 115a was told that the c was a much better tractor..the a and c are totally different models even in like s 115a v 115c
Yeah, they did that out of spite. I'm sure you are so very important to them that they can't get you off of their mind. You are so very special (in your mind).
If you had dealt with them for a year like I did, you would understand my situation much better. Only watching this one video doesn't give you any insight into the whole situation 🙂
What was actually wrong with the tractor itself? It seems like the entire video is describing bad customer service experience more than it is describing problems with the motor, tranny, PTO, hydraulics, electric, usability, etc.
This particular tractor only had one issue during the 4 hours I owned it. I had two other brand new tractors, one of which was at the dealer for over 4 months. I made a bunch of videos as the chaos unfolded so you would have to go back and watch them if you want all the details.
Huh, you could not get parts during a pandemic. Welcome to the club. You did not tell us what is broken.
Why did you just talk shit about the company and dealership and not talk about any of the problems you had with it?
I made lots of other videos showing and outlining the problems I had.
It sucks that the quality of stuff has went down hill . People spend a bunch of money on junk now . I seen others have the same problems like you and it's not just Case .
Glad to hear you're a big step closer to getting your situation resolved. I remember how disappointed I was after I bought a brand new JX95 about 13 or 14 years ago and the darn thing was broke all the time. We got rid of it after about 3 years. Sometimes you just need to cut your losses.
The downtime sometimes is worse than the financial loss of just kicking the tractor to the curb lol
Dad was eyeballing same tractor and a 2019 75c 4 cylinder. After watching this video I'm steering him towards Kubota.
I would like to have a new tractor. I can afford a new tractor. BUT stories like this makes me stuck with what I have. Which is plenty adequate!
I will take it
I bought a 2016 35c a gentleman that bought it brand new it only had 40 hrs when I got it I have had front wheel bearing and wheel seal leaks I have been in it 4 times in 3 years.
I just bought a new Kubota,couldn't be happier.
Found your channel after you commented on Kapper Outdoors. Sorry about the tractor troubles you had.
Welcome to the family!!!
FPT 3.2L 4-cyl diesel is Fiat PowerTrain is the Case IH Farmall 75A.
ISM 2.2L 4-cyl diesel CaseIH Farmall 55A Engine so whatever ISM is that is the difference.
Man it sucks having to deal with that kind of BS, i feel for ya, You would think CNH would be embarrassed by those dealers of theirs yet they are part of the problem. I have an 08 Kubota M108X, I absolutely love it, all ive ever done is put a water pump in it. I hope you get things straightened out and get yourself into a tractor you feel better about! Have a good day Chris.
I doubt CNH will be embarrassed about the dealer because their customer service was not any better LOL
Man thats a shame.
So what is the problem with the C series tractor.. I'm looking at a 110c that something came loose in the engine and the dealership is currently fixing it.. it will be covered under warranty but if there is something problematic with them I don't want to get into it
Our case IH dealer only sells Kabota’s in that size range they don’t even stock that size case I H said they can’t compete with the orange
They are a very smart dealer! lol I see a few other CNH dealers that seem to stock and sell other brands as well.
And also my new Holland dealer has told me what a horrible corporation CNH is turned out to be
need to find a massey 4707! hopefully it will treat you great. we have had nothing but good response from customers.
you know that the guys at the shop have you labeled.
I would definitely look at Massey if there was a dealer close by.
I am unfortunately going through similar problems with my massey 4710 so wouldn't recommend at least I have an amazing dealer but still spent 8 grand on the def system in it
Sounds about right coming from White's Farm Supply
Dealers like that everywhere for everything it’s amazing they stay in business. Will be interesting to see what you decide to go with for a replacement.
It truly is amazing. No dealership is perfect, but my situation was ridiculous! lol Still shopping around- not sure what to pick...
DeHaven Family Farm my vote would be Massey but I have no idea what your dealer is like for them lol. It’s still red so it matches the other tractors 😁
@@macfarms kubota has good reputation like mine does
that's why kubota grow bigger and adding more new dealers wich they have 500,000 kubota dealers all over 380 countries in the world wich keeping on growing more :)
@@macfarms I would be interested in looking at a Massey, but we don't have a dealer nearby.
Thanks for the update on the deal and its up to you as to what you want to share and I understand its just a double whammy when you get poor dealer service on top of a bad product. I just had a big sit down with some case guys since my Dealer is getting big pressure from CNH to Drop the Kubota Line now since they have a 200 horse tractor which is a threat to there sales they seem to think . I have won this 1st battle to keep Kubota on for now but I am sure they will find a way to push it out. But anyhow good luck in your next good tractor whatever it may be lol as long as its not Green lol too bad we cant get Fendts here in the category you need yet
Thanks for your support! I am considering Kubota. I would look at Massey too but the dealers are too far away.
I work for a new holland and kubota dealer. 90% is new holland t4 major repairs . They do suck for parts. Horrid to deal with for manuals and actual answers. Waiting on injector lines and wiring harness on a brand new t4.110f .its a 120k $ orchard tracror. Been there for about 1 year. Customer is overly pissed. Which i would be too. Being a mechanic for the brand its alot to deal with. Stuff is out of my control . I juat fix the problems . There very complex machines. Deaigns are super flawed in so many ways. CNH is not quick to get even the basic parts and we next day air them . Still takes 3 days to show up . I try to stick to kubota side of things but when 90% of our workload is new holland you have no choice but to work on them. Kubota has half the issues. They still have some. But not super apparent like any CNH product.
I’m looking forward to hearing about your experience with CNH. I’m glad you got a tractor to use. There definitely being a smart a$$ by setting the wheels out that far.
It is quite a story- one I never thought would happen lol
@@dehavenfamilyfarm if ya bought a case from my kubota dealer you be having have best luck with it plus my kubota and case dealer usually set it up way what ever customers wants plus he makes it a nice tidy setup not messed up wich hes pretty smart dealer
It's common for mtn areas so they may have thought he was using it for that application you know it's not being a smart ass to stabilize a tractor 🤣🤣🤣
@@michaelmactavish1728 we know all about your dealers, deals, and one of kind rebates from every channel you watch just wish we could get those in the real world.
For haying and moving big bales the wider stance is much much better.
I agree- but they went to wide. Now doing some types of grading and material moving would be very difficult with the tires so much wider than the bucket.
Currently about to install a block heater on this tractor
I bought a new TN75DA New Holland for a utility tractor and it was nothing but a headache. The dealer nor the company would fix the problems I had with it, so I feel your pain. There will never be another NH tractor on my farm. If they gave me one; it would set where they unloaded it, cause I wouldn't take the time to move it.
I feel the same way, except I am getting rid of the one they gave me lol
Don't buy john deere they are just as bad I'm switching to massey ferguson im tired of the constant electronic issues deere has
Yeah, I have heard mixed reviews on some of the new deere stuff, especially the E series. A lot of people seem to like the new Massey tractors. I would really consider one, but my closest dealer is almost two hours away. Good luck with finding a new tractor!
were planing on buying all Kubotas
I've had nothing but success with John Deere tractors
@@marksmotorsportsandfarming7376 ive always bleed green until the last 2 tractors these have spent more time in the shop than running what really pushed me away I had the front axle fall out from under mine going down the road
JD =pos unusable expensive garbage !
Thats too bad today the mahor brands case ih, deere, Kubota, ls, tym, and on and on are all very comparable and the difference is the dealerships and service availability, yah some cost more than others and some cost alot more than others (im looking at you greene) haha . I still have my grandfather's 1985 international harvester 584 and that things a beast. But thats back when tractors were made for work and farming. Today theyve almost caught up to vehicles where the price is out of control cause they put heated seats and stupid $10,000 tailgates on a truck. Im glad i have that old 584 and pre emissions 40hp Kubota for a loader tractor. But ive often wanted wider stance on my Kubota, especially in the rear but with the tires being filled and 5ft tall havent gotten the ambition to mess with unbolting the rims and whatnot to flip them around, it was alot easier to just get wheel weights haha.
Truly unfortunate. Dealer support is really important. I prefer green but run mostly red because the parts and service support is so much better in our area. It hasn't always been that way. Ownership changes and new management sometimes forget who the customers are.
That is very true!!
Whoa, that's a beauty man! Nice that they ponied up for you with the upgrade but sucks about the whole process! Good luck on the sale or trade in! Go Branson!!
Thanks! I would definitely buy a Branson if there were a good dealer near me.
Good luck buddy, i hope you find a good replacement
Thanks, Brad! It's a tough choice, but can't wait to get this tractor out of here before it breaks lol
Wow... Crazy Stuff... Case IH... Great Brand,, or Atleast it once was? ...I recently Bought A New 50 HP Tractor, Loader.. I researched and re-researched Again, an Again... Where it's Made, Parts Buying ifff needed... I looked at Green, Orange, Blue, Red Brands, multiple of brands of color's... Mahindra Tractor, Loader I went with.. Reason Being..price, quality of the material visible to the eye... Real Metal.. Translates to Weight, and Lift Capacity... I went with a Clutch, Standard Shift stick transmission, all very reliable, no over crazy electronics, Now History shows, Mahindra Tractor, Paired with Willy's Jeep making WWll, International Harvester it paired with... I've got near 75 hours on it.. Mainly excavation, dirt work on property... I'm over the moon, no issues.. Reliability is Everything... I respect our Farmers, From cattle to crop, livestock... Mahindra is worth A look.. 7 year PowerTrain Warranty.. 2 year Bumper to Bumper.. What I can see in my 50 HP model I selected and wasn't pushed to buy.. It's Old School Raw Power.. Well built.. Maybe Old ain't so bad..
Kind of seems like you just had a bad experience with the Dealer and among some other small things, seems like you kind of went out of your way to roast the tractor when most of the problems are just bad dealer related. Ive heard a lot of positive things about CASEIH Dealers usually they are a lot better then Deere dealers. But it definitely seems like in this case the dealer just failed at there responsibilities.
The dealer definitely wasn't helpful, but over the course of my situation I had three brand new tractors in my possession- two different 55As and the 75A. They all had multiple issues within the first few hours of use- some of which required the tractor to be split into three pieces to repair. I think they had major quality control issues. Hopefully they have them figured out by now..
@@dehavenfamilyfarm That's unfortunate, I know a lot of it has to do with the dealer and how they manage problems with equipment. Sometimes that equipment comes damaged to the dealer or has some bugs that need to be sorted which is normal with new equipment, Lots of moving parts but how the dealer deals with them is the real difference. No equipment is perfect.
I guess I won't be getting a case.
I've looked at koiti and yanmar...
Any thoughts?
Does cash "talk", or is that wise?
If you had to buy a new tractor today, what manufacturer would you recommend?
AGCO screwed my Dad hard in 2000 on two lease return Massey's he purchased. They wouldn't fix forever until warranty ran out Crooks,Crooks,Crooks
Hi Chris I have a 1984 International 785xl and everything works great apart from the hand brake and it is still well capable of doing a hard day's work 💪,what's the chances of your new tractor working for 36years and still being able to earn it's keep I think we both no the answer to that 😂
I actually looked at a 785xl with a cab and loader, but it sold before I could make a decision lol Definitely won't make it that long!
*Hope the video is out I want to hear all about it because I have looked at a similar tractor* #WorldsOkayestFarmer
Omg, It says Whites on the sticker. Where did you pick it up from? So sorry you went through all this. Really like your farming videos. Maybe we'll try to finance a mahindra or something as we are trying to start farming.
That is disappointing and annoying to be let down so badly that your brand loyalty has been so damaged it drives you to want to get rid of a higher rated brand new tractor for another brand! A big own goal by CNH. I am sure AGCO, John Deere and Kubota will welcome you and try to get your business! Good luck.
It was extremely disappointing to be treated the way I was. I would caution anyone to think before they buy from CNH. Thanks for your support!
This seems like a dealer issue not a Case ih issue
Well a 75hp tractor is definitely more marketable than a 55! I'm glad they finally stepped up for you, but I can definitely understand why you're going to get rid of it. I would too! Maybe you can find yourself a good early 2000's model NH or Case IH with low hours like I did, for half the price. I'd have a hard time buying anything new right now. From what I hear they're all kinda junk. On second thought a good friend of mine has a 2019 JD 5065E and has had a great experience with it at over 200 hours.
I am definitely considering an older tractor. Really depends on what I can find quickly. I am glad your tractor has worked out for you- I agree the new ones are a lot of money!
@@dehavenfamilyfarm Yes, I priced out a Case IH 100c and it was about $58k. I think anything pre-Tier 4 emissions is probably good to go in that tractor size.
You sure had to jump through all type of circus hoops to get things finalized. I hope you get a tractor that is dependable but more importantly is finding a dealership that stands behind their business and cares about their customers. A tractor is the pricey investment and I do not have that kind of money to throw around. Had I not purchased a Massey years ago, I probably would have gone with Deere or (believe it or not....Case) b/c that's what we used at home. Congrats and wish you the best finding a dealership you can trust. Thank you for making this video.
Thank you! A good dealer sure can make a bad experience better. Now I just have to find one! lol
Go Kubota
I am definitely looking at them!
DeHaven Family Farm that new M8 with a 6.7 Cummins 👌
@@Tcw2019 Wish I had the $$ for one!
Our 75a at work is a lemon also. Only plus is it keeps me dry, warm, and cool in our wny seasons.
I have found out most of these A series seem to be junk! Can't wait for this one to be gone lol
I was gonna get one whats the main isssues?
We've had our 140A for a few years now. No issues, has been just as good as our Maxxum 140.
Frumos video like 👍👍🚜🚜🇹🇩
What kind of problems were you having with your A?
Get a Kubota or John Deere
I’m glad you finally got it resolved. Man I hate that you had such a experience.You can bring the tractor here and pick up the rebaler. Lol. Have a good one
We wouldn't be friends anymore if I brought you this tractor- it would break down every five minutes and you would be mad at me! LOL I am still interested in that rebaler!
@@dehavenfamilyfarm ours same way wich why where thinking about replacing them with all kubotas wich there way more reliable and parts are cheaper and affordable
so what would it ake to buy it
@@michaelsauser1482 the pos is gone!
@@michaelsauser1482 there ol is cheaper too at kubota $27.52 for 5 liter jug wich deeres are $56.90 for small 4 liter and newhollands are $106.00 for 4liters of 10 w 30
Seems like the people at the dealer ship don't give a rats ass about their customers.
I've got a 2000 tn 75 from new holland, got 3500 hours on it and I never had a big problem with it.
Just an busted hydraulic line, and that's pretty much it. Could easily fix it myself.
Oh I'll believe the story you tell lol! What's gonna be your next choice?
Wheel width is definitely in spite... like the dealer doesn't care. Sounds like some dealerships we've had run-ins with too.
I am not sure what I will pick. I have limited choices close to home. Thinking of possibly an older tractor. I am just glad to be done with them!
That’s not good. CNH needs to get its act together IMHO, if you follow DLH Farm, that guy has burnt through a New Holland T4 and T5 and who knows how many thousands of dollars. I think he has a decent MF and JD now. Don’t know what kind of PTO hp you’re looking for, we run a 2014 JD 5055d and it has been an excellent tractor, just over 50 PTO hp and no emissions. They are available used with low hours if you look around. We use ours to bale with as you’ve probably seen on our channel. It can be fitted with a front end loader. My brother has a JD 5045E with I believe the 512 loader. It is 2 wd drive like my JD and aside from from dealer set-up issues, has proven to be a great tractor too. Good luck!
Thanks! Yes I do watch DLH Farms. I did miss the problems with the T4, but have been a viewer long enough to see the problems with the T5. CNH is turning into a joke...
Are you going to look at a Green tractor? Sorry you had all that BS to deal with.
Thanks. I did look at green, but they were not in my budget lol
Tractors only worth as much as dealer support
Dealerships, salesmen in particular; want high dollar corporate size farm accounts….small guys?? They know you’re probably going to buy one tractor and MAYBE a few service calls in the course of your life sooooo…….they sell you a tractor and that’s that because they want to woo and fawn over people trading combines every year and buying tractors every 3 or 4 years and so on. This isn’t always true but sadly it often is.
So after all that, apparently you DID stick with the brand??
I have a kubota M7060 and it works great for our farm all we us it for is making hay. They also came out with a M4 which is 70-75 horse as well. It nicer than the M7060 but I think cost more. Might be worth looking into for a hay and loader tractor the M7060 has been great for us. Just my opinion. Was looking into the same tractor u have glad I didn’t get it sounds like CNH has a problem and won’t admit it. Like u videos keep up the good work.
Thank you! I looked at the M6040 before I bought the Case tractor. I am a big fan of Kubota, but thought the M6040 felt very dated- I don't think they have updated it for over 10 years lol I am looking at a M4, but they are a little pricey. You made the right tractor choice!
@@dehavenfamilyfarm were looking at a m4 as well for replacing our junk newholland wich alot issues wich why where going with kubota plus kubotas gives cash instant rebates and best warranty
@@dehavenfamilyfarm my nieces mom is the cheif inspector officer for kubota coroporation befor it goes to the markets all over the world
Just looked at the M4 the other day was nice and has more room then the M7060. Didn’t get the price on it but it look like it would cost more. The kubota’s do feel a little out dated but if u look at the JD E series or NH Workmaster they are pretty much the same. We also looked at MF they looked nice didn’t get to test drive or anything the dealer only want to sell sub compact tractors never got back to us about a price.
@@rothamfarm1682 here at my dealer in canada is around $49,000 for the m4 with loader,bucket,forks and a snowblower package plus $2,500 customers instant rebate with 6 year warranty free
Hey Chris get yourself a JD. They cost a little more. Worth every dime. Take Care.
TNR Red Angus own a JD and a Kubota that we us for making hay. Love them both but have to admit I’d buy another kubota M7060 or there new M4 series tractor over JD. The E series JD are over priced and the M series WAY over priced but good tractors. But they aren’t worth as much as they are, your just paying for the name and color. But can’t go wrong with either one it just depends on what your budget is. It just my opinion.
I agree its personnel preference for sure. We have a 7400 with 20000 7600 with 18000 on it. Never have touched either motor yet. I don't like the E series either. Nice talking to you sir Take Care
@TNR I am really not sure if many new tractors are worth it, no matter the manufacturer. I really think the older stuff might be better!
Will say this the older JDs I like we had a 3020 and a 3010 loved them. Traded one in for a JD 5303 and 2 years ago traded 3020 to got the M7060. Miss them and I will say the old tractors aren’t like the new tractors.
My brother bought a new JD with loader and bush hog. He wanted to trade back in for a larger tractor. Guess what dealer refused to deal. Green tractor dealer not so good.
what's with the emu in the background?
A pet we use for educational farm tours 🙂
I am not sure about the back wheel but aren't the fronts just put the rims on one way or the other like offset one way or the other? As far as I know that is the only width adjustment you can do probably same with back wheels . So probably it wasnt spite it was just the only option if you wanted it wider
With both the front and back rims, there are multiple adjustments. You can mount the rims on either side of the center dish as well as rotate the dishes- if that makes sense. Hard to explain without showing a pic or video lol
@@dehavenfamilyfarm oh ok ya that makes sense for sure. It is really goofy with the wheels way out past the bucket.
This whole situation has been way to long. I hate doing it but I would take legal action
I agree. I spoke with an attorney and will give details on that in another video.
We set all of our tractors like that so they can stay on the hills sounds like you have a sorry dealer. I have had 3 farmalls and we run 2k acres and have zero issues out of them 🤣🤣🤣but I don't buy new ones the crap that's on these tractors of any color is shocking. I stay from 2012 and down. We have farmall 70s 120s, case 1896, 1370,1570, puma 140, kubota m108x and saving the fastest most reliable unit of them all for last kubota m9540 the best thing running if it won't go you can kiss your season good bye my thoughts have a good one
Good video bub. I had a 2015 farmall 55a, great powerhouse. It was the last year model w/o def or dpf filter. That tractor was a beast. Unfortunately I had to down size, so I went green lol. I miss the power the case had, but my opinion, Deere has the market on subcompact utility tractors. Maybe try green. Good luck to ya.
Thank you!
buy a proper case not a base model and get on with it!!
I have been about to bite on a brand new 75c. I am in the logging biz and I have some good JD equipment but I love red tractors....After your experience would you go green with a new tractor?
I did another video outlining my whole, year long experience with this manufacturer if you want more details. I am not sure what brand to suggest you buy, but I can tell you because of the quality and lack of support from the dealer and manufacturer, I will not be buying another new cnh tractor. I think you should buy a tractor from a manufacturer that you have had a good experience with, in my opinion. Hope this helps!
Thanks I will seek out your vid that you are talking about. If your main problem is the dealer I may be okay with Case. I also have a case dozer and Case and Link Belt excavators, which are the same other than paint. And Southern Farm Supply in NC has been excellent in everything I have needed from them. They have even been excellent at crossing over into my heavy equipment which is great since they are much closer to me than a Case or Link Belt construction dealer.
@@timberslasher4899 My main problem was the tractor was a piece of crap and was broken on and off for the better part of a year. Secondary to that was the manufacturer providing parts and support to the dealer in a timely manner, and lastly the way the dealer poorly handled the whole situation. I have very little confidence in cnh providing satisfactory support for any product they sell lol
Thanks for the insight... I have had a couple ol Olivers and an Industrial MF but Idk much about new tractors. Haven't had a need for one until recently when I acquired a good bit more land to maintain. Main reason I am shopping new is that I want a cab and I don't want one that has already started to develop problems such as A/C problems etc.
kubota... all the way for small tractors
Go try the Deere experience and have the ultimate nightmare.
Time for a John Deere, Chris
I did look at Deere, but they were above my budget lol
@@dehavenfamilyfarm yeah they're not cheap but you should still have better luck with Deere than you did with the case IH making it worth the investment
I'm guessing that you live in hilly ground. Wider is better. Get a wider bucket. I agree, a good dealer is more than 50% of why you run a color.
It is hilly here, but not enough to warrant the wheels being set that wide lol If I were to put a big enough bucket to be the same width as the tires on there, and something broke on the loader, the warranty would not cover it. The new bucket would have to be almost 8 feet wide 🙂
is this in NY? ik there is a white's farm supply in NY on route 40 or am i missing something?
wonder where it was made? who is the dealer?
go for a kubota there the best tractors on the market today
Love your truck
Thank you!!
Look at new holland t4 they are really nice fast power comfortable
I am not sure I would like a T4. Last I knew they didn't use a park brake, but a park position on the range lever- which can be annoying. Thanks for watching!!
What are you planning to get as a replacement for this tractor.
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I got a Kubota M4. Thanks!!
Were did you get the carport from looks good
John Deere will do the same thing
Wow. A whole year. How many hours did you use the other? I think green would look good but I'm so biased. 😁
The original Farmall 55A I bought in Jan of 2019 had around 55-60 hours on it when they picked it up in August of 2019. I did look at a green tractor, but the price was a little higher than my budget lol
Its a new holland T4s in a red dress there turkish made
Horror story!
Sure is.
Buy a kubota, they have been great to me...love there stuff..just added a bv4160 silage special to add to farm
Definitely considering one! I have a BV 4160 too lol
@@dehavenfamilyfarm ive had the m7060 tractor its a awesome hay tractor, i now have the m5111 with almost 800 hours now...great machine buddy of mine is ditching hise new case 120 farmal for a m5111 , likes its lots better for 20k less...also have a z323 zero turn, 3pt disc mower...im a big fan been putting 500 acres a year on them with great success.....give em a shot
Thanks for video, i was thinking of case or kubota this tilts the scale to kubota
Those new farmalls are slanderous to the farmalls that came before it
New case tractor not good no more no spend yuo many those tractor I have one.end i have problems junk tractor..CASE
You should find an old Ford 8n (or something of that sort) fix it up and find a loader for it they don’t have as much horsepower but they are very reliable newer tractors are just shit
DEERE DEERE DEERE DEERE LOL I bleed green lol come buy my 2750 lol
I really have considered Deere, but the prices are above my budget lol
Junk,junk ,junk ,,,!!
I was hoping for an informative video, I have no idea what was wrong the with the tractor, and a Karen came to mind hh
I could not possibly put everything that happened in one video. I documented the entire year long journey. If you want to see the entire story in detail, go back through my videos- I believe there are at least 6. The whole ordeal cost me over $20,000 plus the original price of the tractor, so definitely not a Karen.
The new "Farmall" tractors are junk! Id grip an older CaseIH.
Older ones definitely seem to be better built!
What exactly is bad about the farmall tractors? I was talking to a local and he said the same thing, but didnt give me any reasoning like the guy in this video.
Also, your name is Farmall Fanatic wtf?
@@DmgNeville everything about them is junk! They arent real Farmall tractors! Foreign cheap made garbage that you have to take in for service at least once a month for something constantly going wrong. They are Farmall in name only!
All your issues are with the dealer and the fact that there farmall A and not u are c
oh man I'm going Deere now!
How much horsepower does it have
I believe the gross engine hp is around 75- not sure what the drawbar or pto ratings are.
I bet a Kubota would be much better than Case.
I agree!
The width of that tractor is ridiculous stay away from case I'd say mabye a good second hand tractor would be a good choice
Definitely not buying another brand new tractor from Case or new Holland!
First :)...3rd view!!
Good morning!!
Why do you keep buying the same brand of junk.
I don't...
You kind of deserved to lose all your money
Why do you think that?