Folks that are worried about destroying the collector value by refinishing? Well it only has collector value if it is an antique in the first place. The old Remington he does in another video has a bit of value. BUT packed in rust and mud the was it was it was only a good paper weight. If a gun is restored it is completely refinished with all the original Stock oils, internal parts replaced with factory parts. Refinishing the metal makes it what is known as a 10% gun. Meaning it is at the bottom of the scale for collector values. The only caveat to that is the gun smiths that have earned a name in the restoration business. They are easy to identify by the fact that name is right up front in the sale brochure. What Andre does is a fun and very lucrative business. There are more damaged, neglected guns out there than there are folks to rescue them. Keep up the good work.
Maybe I just no nothing about "gun collecting" but myself and literally everyone I know who's into firearms would put more stock I'm a firearm that's restored and functional then a wall hanger any day. Maybe I'm just too uncultured.
@@mariongonzalez2621 in my book if it can't fire or easily be repaired unless it was the only one left or had some historical significance it's completely worthless.
@Der Congo MannYes it is. He got real lucky that all the innards were present and useable. Often that is not the case. I have done well over 200 rescues over the years. I can count on one hand, using my thumb only, the number times I got this lucky. :-)
Being in fireable condition has a lot to do with value as well. An old rust bucket is not worth much. Even for the a150-year-old gun, is only worth 70$. Because it was in non-working order.
Cool choice. If it was too rare people would have a stroke at restoring it. But this is rare enough but can restore. I’d love to have a project like that to work on. Awesome video. I like seeing all the restorations man. Guns, blades, chairs, whatever. It’s so cool to see. Partially inspired me to do more fixing instead of replacing on several items.
Andre, your work has inspired me to recently purchase for 30$ a very old straight razor. My work pales in comparison to yours but I'm proud to say that after 10 hours work and a lot of elbow grease I have a hand forged fully functional twin duck razor. I got a lot of joy out of fixing it up m8.
Never fails. Some concentrated care and attention can make some old and classic look new again. And without replacing pieces or using a bunch of electric grinding. Very nice work.
I'm surprised that nobody commented on how restoring the pistol would dramatically decrease it's value... after all, with so many "Pawn store" shows on TV, we've ALL become antique experts! I've heard them over and over again say how it's better to leave the firearms AS IS instead of "restoring" them... In this case, I disagree. The pistol STILL looks old (you didn't try to buff out all the beautiful patina and replace the wooden grips with new material) and has all of the charm that a piece this old should have! :) Beautiful job!
@Spartan Batty Rust and grime is not patina. Tarnished brass, nicks, scratches, and aged wood furniture is patina. When you own an antique gun you still have to maintain it like a modern firearm or it will just degrade over time. People who consider damage like rust and grime are the ones that are antique experts that got their knowledge from Pawn Stars.
I'm a big fan of restoring old stuff and never understood how it decreases value BUT that's not a chance I would take on an old firearm. Some can be quite valuable. This is also a unfinished project he completely removed the finish from this firearm and did not apply a new one. In my opinion he ruined it.
I have a Colt revolver made in 1899 and a Smith and Wesson revolver made in 1901. Both came from desert areas and are in quite beautiful condition. I like antique cast iron cookware. Just bought an 1890s piece last weekend. The man I bought it from has an electrolysis tank dedicated to restoring cast iron.
Which chemicals would you recommend? I just started with electrolysis and it works well, but the rust comes back quickly when the part is left exposed to air, I haven't tried rubbing the pieces with fine steel wool after drying the pieces, could that be why?.
Sascha Is this question about cast iron cookware or guns, knives and tools? Cookware can be dried in the oven then coated with cooking oil and put back in the oven to season. Guns, swords and tools are dried well and oiled. Buried relics are given electrolysis then cleaned, dried very well, and dipped in hot wax.
Restoration means restoring something back to its original state when it was new! So pulling it apart, cleaning the metal and conditioning the wood IS restoration.. stick that in your pipe and smoke it.. Good job of RESTORATION. 👍🏻🇦🇺😁
Dear Andre Will Do It. Extremely well done. Even more fantastic that the very good taped video didn't content any blablabla or not fitting or bad or too loud music. Just a little working background sound. Completely perfect in my opinion! Congrats. Thanks a lot for sharing. Best regards.
I don't understand all the negative comments about "now it's worthless" and "he's removed all the patina". I saw something rusted to hell and ugly at the start of the video and at the end I saw something that had been given an amazing clean and that - patina or no patina - is a nice item to display and a talking point for anyone that sees it. The video didn't say "restored to as-new condition". Surely it is better in its current state than it was covered in rust? It matters none either way - the only person who needs to like this is Andre. I'm a great fan on all Andre does and wish I had half his patience.
I understand original finish as it pertains to value, but these things have went beyond that point to the point of ruin. Restoration is their only hope of continued existence with any hope of enjoyment. I could watch him do this stuff all day long.
A rusty item can be boiled in plain water for 30 minutes at a time. It turns the brown rust to black oxide that can be polished with very fine "0000" steel wool. This is how guns were originally finished. If he had done that to this gun, it would have turned out amazing. There's no need for rust remover. Edit: remove the wood first though!
Am I the only one who noticed Lead wool? Thank you for the video it was actually nice to watch. Don't listen to these mongrels and keep up the good work .
Benjamin Monken I imagine he means steel wool surely? I know you can get lead wool but generally isn’t used for cleaning, especially not cleaning iron/steel- surely lead wool would just disintegrate trying to do that??
@Pierre LeDouche lead wool is a light buffing compound as well as an anti rusting technique. Just something these other comments can't understand. It was a restoration by this fact since he didn't coat the barrel
I know I will get a metric ton of negativity, but I think the gun looked better before, it had a lovely patina, it looked lovely and old. it now looks like a cheap knockoff. Please please, people, this is my own feelings, I am not knocking the great work that went into this restoration, few could do it. I just think it looked better before. Pease everyone.
In all respect I said (a metric ton of negativity not sxxt) it shows the level of maturity or lack. I restore old cars, but I never make then look new, If I made a 1920's car look new, I personally feel I disrespect it. Again, people, this is my own opinion. Not asking anyone to subscribe to my way of thinking. But, and it's a big but, if you purchase an item, that's old, age it is a thing people can not fake, people try. Why make an old item look new, its old enjoy the old. Gael Yonnet, if you think to restore or preserve is to paint it black with new varnish on the handles, you're helping my case. But all if you purchase an item, that looks real(ish) only to find its a fake, you will all bitch why has this happened, but your not able to take the blame, this is exactly what you asked for. keep old, old, let the fakers try to do the work. I would ask for any museum, how would you like to find and show it. I would bet its not with all the years and patina and providence, chemically removed, I can do that every day, but I like the customer to know exactly what they're getting. Real old, not old that has been made to look new, and then made to look old. Keep it real people. Dave
Damn!!! Absolutely spectacular work bro. History being preserved and respected just as it should. I can think of nothing more gratifying as taking a long forgotten piece of history and giving it another 200 years to be respected and then restored by the next guy in 2237. Good work chief.
I wonder how many of those “knowledgeable” negative commenters know what they are talking about or are capable of doing anything like this themselves. Nice job Bud ☹️🤨🇬🇧🏴
At least Im capable of doing much better, and with right tools, which are kinda critical. But I wonder how many of subscribers know anything about restoration or use of tools? I bet not so many. Otherwise these wouldnt be so popular.
None. They're just parroting each other and pontificating. The good thing about the internet is that it gives everyone a voice, it's also the worst thing
@@debraco7748 I did better and would never call mine "restoration" even if it was not such lazy as low effort WD40 cleaning like here. And my Lefaucheux coach gun does SHOOT quite well.
Part of anyone sharing a project like this is to entertain and stimulate conversation both positive or negative. There will always be someone out there that really can do it better .. so what? Over three million views and 1,500 comments, he must of done something right! Cheers ...
I'd have to join the "was wrecked" camp (sorry). By all means clean the guts so it can dry fire for fun, but leave the surface aging alone. If I succumbed to temptation and was going to wreck an antique, I'd give wood and metal a coat of LINSEED OIL. It nourishes dry wood, stabilizes the rust, and forms an attractive protective varnish to prevent further oxidation. Test on any old rusty tools to see the effect. Future owners (and value) will appreciate. But nice video. To each their own.
A great step toward a complete restoration. Perhaps some heat on the three immovable screws followed by some penetrating oil would have helped. After cleaning with the steel-wool or even a fine wire wheel brush, I anticipated a bath in copper sulfate (aka buleing) for the finish. Very good as far as it goes. Thanks.
I restore, rebuild, modify air rifles and muzzleloaders myself. New, vintage, and antique. That was about half done in my opinion. But not bad. But yes, it does indeed take a lot of patience and work to make them look good again. Check out my Airgun Shooter and Airgun Fan videos from the last couple years for examples.
The whole joy of a gun like this is seeing the 150 year old rust stain from the sweaty hands of its original owner. If I ever see one of these videos restoring a civil, ww1, or ww2 era rifle or pistol I’ll probably never watch UA-cam again.
Martin Kronström 11mm pinfire has never killed anyone! I don't think any LeFechaux gun has killed anyone. The bullets just bounce off and leave bruises.
Martin Kronström The LeFaucheaux pinfire revolvers were carried in war but were notoriously weak! The one Andre has looks like what was called a "parlor pistol" for indoors target practice. But, maybe it was carried for defense I recently saw a Flobert parlor pistol that had a gutta percha grip and silver inlays.
I don't know why people knock this job.Usually the people that talk shit about the way somebody else does something (like cooking,running a business,RESTORING A GUN) is because they can't do it themselves. Most critics are critics because they couldn't cut it at what they are criticising but still know the "basics", like just enough to make a person sound like they dont know what they're doing. Its not yours and your not trying to sale it so shut up. If Andre goes to an auction and buys a 150 yr old shotgun that's a "survivor" and cuts the barrel off oh well its his to do whatever the hell he wants
John Doe So that means you have a background in antique guns then ? And you'd rather have a weapon that's worth 300 if your lucky, or say 3000 ? Especially one you may not even be able to fire, after you've destroyed its value ? Yup, that makes LOTS of sense, LOTS ! Those people are saying that because they more than likely know FAR more than you do !
Lord Tachanka How exactly am I being mean ? I'm stating facts. Discussing. Just because someone disagrees with something, doesn't mean they're being mean. For many it seems, their idea of someone else being mean is any kind of criticism whatsoever, or anything they don't want to hear, no matter how truthful.
@@ronbennett6396 Then you could have done the job without remarking how little he knows and how senseless his affirmations are with CAPITAL LETTERS. You are being mean that way. Would you talk the same way to him if he were sitting in front of you?
You did not restore it. You just cleaned it up....to me restoring is putting something back to its original state. THAT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T THINK YOU DID A GOOD JOB!!! I know that is not the shared view from the comments below. There are degrees of restoration. I forgot about that.
Not a restoration. He removed all of the finish from the firearm and didn't blue or seal the metal meaning it will turn into a rusty paperweight in no time. It lost any value it had.
It should, if only it's too pitted, have the finish REMOVED. Then it should have been...."BROWNED" Same as blueing....only in olden days it was a brown color. That's why it LOOKED rusty. And YES ....IT IS NOW NEAR WORTHLESS TO A TRUE COLLECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@RESPECT MY AUTHORITY non firing around $50-100, firing maybe $200-300 if in good condition. If he used some Birchwood Casey plum brown I'd see someone paying around $200 if it shoots. He didn't butcher it with a wire wheel like so many other amateur restorers...
Birchwood Case Plumb brown would be What color that gun was origionally! And you can still buy the paste Or liquid. A controlled rusting agent they used before blueing.
I restored an old german Panzerfaust and hung it at my entrance door. Although completely discharged, still looks impressive. Since then, all my disliked relatives do not visit me any more = BINGO .. double success
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You'd have had a much easier time getting that rust off by electrolysis. That's definitely the way to go for things with small intricate parts. Glad you were able to save the wood grips! When you took them off I thought they were done. Great job!
This is low effort WD40 + washing, not even near to any type of restoration. The barrels are forged damasteel. How can anybody be so lazy to NOT UNSCREW THE GUN "because it stuck".? How?
Looks nice! I personally would have blued the metal. Now all you need is to measure the chamber to find the appropriate pinfire ammo and test fire! Well, if you can even find it. Pinfire ammunition has been obsolete for over a hundred years.
There is a company in Germany that makes re-loadable pin fire ammunition. From a collectors standpoint, removing the rust kills the value of the gun. A good patina actually works to keep the gun from rusting further. Since its been cleaned, a nice plumb bluing would look great on that gun. It would give it the aged color but protect the metal.
Well, now it has no protective finish so keep it very oiled. The patina that was on it could have been turned into a very effective corrosion inhibitor, with a little work and knowledge. Sorry but in my eyes you ruined this piece.
That active rust is called hematite or FE2O3, if you were to boil those parts in basic tap water, some of the hematite will turn into magnetite or FE3O4 which will not corrode and will act as a barrier to further corrosion or “just rust”. Try it next time, you might be surprised.
aslob 9 Would it be a problem if the water was from a well that was hard from calcium and magnesium? Would distilled water be preferable? I've never heard of this method.
The Beardy Farmer: Adventures in Agriculture + I don’t think it would matter, the minerals should not affect the process. Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia: RUST BLUING, Rust bluing was developed between hot and cold bluing processes. It was originally used by gunsmiths in the 19th century to blue firearms prior to the development of hot bluing processes. The process was to coat the gun parts in an acid solution, let the parts rust uniformly, then immerse the parts in boiling water to convert the red oxide Fe2O3 to black oxide Fe3O4, which forms a more protective, stable coating than the red oxide. The boiling water also removes any remaining residue from the applied acid solution (often nitric acid and hydrochloric acid diluted in water). Then loose oxide was carded (scrubbed) off, using a carding brush or wheel. A carding brush is a wire brush with very soft, thin (usually about .002 thick) wires. This process is repeated until the desired depth of color is achieved or the metal simply will not color any further. This is one of the reasons rust and fume bluing tend to be more rust resistant than any other method. The parts are then oiled and allowed to stand overnight. This process leaves a deep blue/black finish. Modern home hobbyist versions of this process typically use a hydrogen peroxide and salt solution, sometimes with vinegar, for the rusting step [3] to avoid the need for more dangerous acids
Patina doesn't leave rust pits, only rust leaves rust pits, and if its pitting then it needs to be removed. So you try and watch the video closer next time.
Rust is a PITA to remove. You should have that steel treated with a rust preventative. I'd say blue it, but that would ruin the look. Some kind clear coat might work. Did an awesome job getting it cleaned, but the rust is coming right back if you don't protect that bear metal. Such a cool project!
They are actually worth more if you don't restore them you lower the value if you restore only reason to restore is if someone wants it done or you are just gonna keep it either way grate video love the show keep it up man appreciate all your hard work and all you do!
Put it in a box. Get it out every few years and play with it. Put it back away. Eventually the great, great grand kids will have gramps ‘older then dirt’ antique pistol with a mighty fine patina like it never happened. Everybody’s a winner, just keep it in the family.
Looks great. Personally I would have given the wood a light sand with a high grit sandpaper, minimum 800 grit but probably higher. Just help clean it up a small bit.
I’m only commenting on this video because I just really like those dual hammer double barrel guns...I wouldn’t say he ruined the gun,he didn’t grind anything down or ruin the sharp edges..and it’s far from a paperweight, it’s a beautiful antique,I don’t think it’s ready to be fired..but this gentleman cleaned it up for its next phase,if he has the money to take it to a expert gunsmith who will restore it correctly and take it into a safe firing gun...but let’s be real your not going to take it to the range and blow through a box of shells,it’s a show piece...I completely understand you guys that would of left it rusted,but me myself like restored pieces more than rusted,the value means nothing,it’s what makes you happy,everyone has different opinions and tastes..at the end it’s a nice gun either way rusted or fully restored
Folks that are worried about destroying the collector value by refinishing? Well it only has collector value if it is an antique in the first place. The old Remington he does in another video has a bit of value. BUT packed in rust and mud the was it was it was only a good paper weight. If a gun is restored it is completely refinished with all the original Stock oils, internal parts replaced with factory parts. Refinishing the metal makes it what is known as a 10% gun. Meaning it is at the bottom of the scale for collector values. The only caveat to that is the gun smiths that have earned a name in the restoration business. They are easy to identify by the fact that name is right up front in the sale brochure.
What Andre does is a fun and very lucrative business. There are more damaged, neglected guns out there than there are folks to rescue them. Keep up the good work.
Maybe I just no nothing about "gun collecting" but myself and literally everyone I know who's into firearms would put more stock I'm a firearm that's restored and functional then a wall hanger any day. Maybe I'm just too uncultured.
@@mariongonzalez2621 in my book if it can't fire or easily be repaired unless it was the only one left or had some historical significance it's completely worthless.
The 1958 Remington was a modern repro. It is worth about 50 bucks in good condition.
@Der Congo MannYes it is. He got real lucky that all the innards were present and useable. Often that is not the case. I have done well over 200 rescues over the years. I can count on one hand, using my thumb only, the number times I got this lucky. :-)
Being in fireable condition has a lot to do with value as well. An old rust bucket is not worth much. Even for the a150-year-old gun, is only worth 70$. Because it was in non-working order.
Cool choice. If it was too rare people would have a stroke at restoring it. But this is rare enough but can restore. I’d love to have a project like that to work on. Awesome video. I like seeing all the restorations man. Guns, blades, chairs, whatever. It’s so cool to see. Partially inspired me to do more fixing instead of replacing on several items.
Andre, your work has inspired me to recently purchase for 30$ a very old straight razor. My work pales in comparison to yours but I'm proud to say that after 10 hours work and a lot of elbow grease I have a hand forged fully functional twin duck razor. I got a lot of joy out of fixing it up m8.
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Never fails. Some concentrated care and attention can make some old and classic look new again. And without replacing pieces or using a bunch of electric grinding. Very nice work.
I'm surprised that nobody commented on how restoring the pistol would dramatically decrease it's value... after all, with so many "Pawn store" shows on TV, we've ALL become antique experts! I've heard them over and over again say how it's better to leave the firearms AS IS instead of "restoring" them...
In this case, I disagree. The pistol STILL looks old (you didn't try to buff out all the beautiful patina and replace the wooden grips with new material) and has all of the charm that a piece this old should have! :)
Beautiful job!
Once it's pitted, you're past patina and into damage. This isn't a rough old car, this is the car with a rust hole in the floorboards and no doors.
@Spartan Batty Rust and grime is not patina. Tarnished brass, nicks, scratches, and aged wood furniture is patina. When you own an antique gun you still have to maintain it like a modern firearm or it will just degrade over time. People who consider damage like rust and grime are the ones that are antique experts that got their knowledge from Pawn Stars.
I'm a big fan of restoring old stuff and never understood how it decreases value BUT that's not a chance I would take on an old firearm. Some can be quite valuable. This is also a unfinished project he completely removed the finish from this firearm and did not apply a new one. In my opinion he ruined it.
It now looks like a souvenir from Pakistan.
My take: value has no permanence, nor objective meaning. It's merely a buzzword thrown around by "collectors".
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I must be addicted to these restoration videos...
Thank you for the handy tip about toluene. It will save me having to replace wooden parts all the time, on a restoration.
I have a Colt revolver made in 1899 and a Smith and Wesson revolver made in 1901. Both came from desert areas and are in quite beautiful condition. I like antique cast iron cookware. Just bought an 1890s piece last weekend. The man I bought it from has an electrolysis tank dedicated to restoring cast iron.
Which chemicals would you recommend? I just started with electrolysis and it works well, but the rust comes back quickly when the part is left exposed to air, I haven't tried rubbing the pieces with fine steel wool after drying the pieces, could that be why?.
Sascha Is this question about cast iron cookware or guns, knives and tools? Cookware can be dried in the oven then coated with cooking oil and put back in the oven to season. Guns, swords and tools are dried well and oiled. Buried relics are given electrolysis then cleaned, dried very well, and dipped in hot wax.
it kind of takes the character away by cleaning it it's not natural anymore
Restoration means restoring something back to its original state when it was new! So pulling it apart, cleaning the metal and conditioning the wood IS restoration.. stick that in your pipe and smoke it.. Good job of RESTORATION. 👍🏻🇦🇺😁
Dear Andre Will Do It. Extremely well done. Even more fantastic that the very good taped video didn't content any blablabla or not fitting or bad or too loud music. Just a little working background sound. Completely perfect in my opinion! Congrats. Thanks a lot for sharing. Best regards.
I don't understand all the negative comments about "now it's worthless" and "he's removed all the patina". I saw something rusted to hell and ugly at the start of the video and at the end I saw something that had been given an amazing clean and that - patina or no patina - is a nice item to display and a talking point for anyone that sees it.
The video didn't say "restored to as-new condition".
Surely it is better in its current state than it was covered in rust?
It matters none either way - the only person who needs to like this is Andre.
I'm a great fan on all Andre does and wish I had half his patience.
I loved that you were able to save the handle too!
I understand original finish as it pertains to value, but these things have went beyond that point to the point of ruin. Restoration is their only hope of continued existence with any hope of enjoyment. I could watch him do this stuff all day long.
A rusty item can be boiled in plain water for 30 minutes at a time. It turns the brown rust to black oxide that can be polished with very fine "0000" steel wool. This is how guns were originally finished. If he had done that to this gun, it would have turned out amazing. There's no need for rust remover. Edit: remove the wood first though!
Am I the only one who noticed Lead wool? Thank you for the video it was actually nice to watch. Don't listen to these mongrels and keep up the good work .
Benjamin Monken I imagine he means steel wool surely? I know you can get lead wool but generally isn’t used for cleaning, especially not cleaning iron/steel- surely lead wool would just disintegrate trying to do that??
@Pierre LeDouche lead wool is a light buffing compound as well as an anti rusting technique. Just something these other comments can't understand. It was a restoration by this fact since he didn't coat the barrel
I’m glad the wood was left alone! I believe that’s what tells the story and looks 10x better than replacing it in my opinion
I know I will get a metric ton of negativity, but I think the gun looked better before, it had a lovely patina, it looked lovely and old. it now looks like a cheap knockoff. Please please, people, this is my own feelings, I am not knocking the great work that went into this restoration, few could do it. I just think it looked better before. Pease everyone.
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In all respect I said (a metric ton of negativity not sxxt) it shows the level of maturity or lack. I restore old cars, but I never make then look new, If I made a 1920's car look new, I personally feel I disrespect it. Again, people, this is my own opinion. Not asking anyone to subscribe to my way of thinking.
But, and it's a big but, if you purchase an item, that's old, age it is a thing people can not fake, people try. Why make an old item look new, its old enjoy the old.
Gael Yonnet, if you think to restore or preserve is to paint it black with new varnish on the handles, you're helping my case. But all if you purchase an item, that looks real(ish) only to find its a fake, you will all bitch why has this happened, but your not able to take the blame, this is exactly what you asked for. keep old, old, let the fakers try to do the work. I would ask for any museum, how would you like to find and show it. I would bet its not with all the years and patina and providence, chemically removed, I can do that every day, but I like the customer to know exactly what they're getting. Real old, not old that has been made to look new, and then made to look old.
Keep it real people.
Dave
Still looks old though, just well preserved. I like the look of the handle very much
In my personal opinion it didn’t have any patina it just looked neglected.
STFU
Damn!!! Absolutely spectacular work bro. History being preserved and respected just as it should. I can think of nothing more gratifying as taking a long forgotten piece of history and giving it another 200 years to be respected and then restored by the next guy in 2237. Good work chief.
magnifique, un "Lefaucheux" méritait bien çà!
If Andre can't do it nobody can! This is becoming my go to channel!
I wonder how many of those “knowledgeable” negative commenters know what they are talking about or are capable of doing anything like this themselves. Nice job Bud ☹️🤨🇬🇧🏴
At least Im capable of doing much better, and with right tools, which are kinda critical. But I wonder how many of subscribers know anything about restoration or use of tools? I bet not so many. Otherwise these wouldnt be so popular.
None. They're just parroting each other and pontificating. The good thing about the internet is that it gives everyone a voice, it's also the worst thing
@@debraco7748 I did better and would never call mine "restoration" even if it was not such lazy as low effort WD40 cleaning like here. And my Lefaucheux coach gun does SHOOT quite well.
Part of anyone sharing a project like this is to entertain and stimulate conversation both positive or negative. There will always be someone out there that really can do it better .. so what? Over three million views and 1,500 comments, he must of done something right! Cheers ...
I'm a sucker when it comes to guns. Thank you for the video.
I would advise that a drain screen be used; preventing the small parts from getting lost in the drain pipe.
That’s not just cleaning that is..............a sympathetic restoration.
Barry Allen could make alot of money in the restoration business.
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Nice clean up job no new parts nice 2 c that all original parts satisfying 2 watch 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I'd have to join the "was wrecked" camp (sorry). By all means clean the guts so it can dry fire for fun, but leave the surface aging alone. If I succumbed to temptation and was going to wreck an antique, I'd give wood and metal a coat of LINSEED OIL. It nourishes dry wood, stabilizes the rust, and forms an attractive protective varnish to prevent further oxidation. Test on any old rusty tools to see the effect. Future owners (and value) will appreciate. But nice video. To each their own.
Wow really nice job excellent refurbished I mean you did a great job does that gun is beautiful God bless you
is still working? great restoration
Yes that is in great condition I bet the beauty would work like a charm
A great step toward a complete restoration. Perhaps some heat on the three immovable screws followed by some penetrating oil would have helped. After cleaning with the steel-wool or even a fine wire wheel brush, I anticipated a bath in copper sulfate (aka buleing) for the finish. Very good as far as it goes. Thanks.
I like this one
Well done!
and 5 years later my car is full of rust...... Beautiful Job.
Finally! A gun video restoration. You deserve a million subs my dude.
I really reckon you should do another one of these projects, but on something a little bigger! A .410 shotgun or a .22 maybe?
I restore, rebuild, modify air rifles and muzzleloaders myself. New, vintage, and antique. That was about half done in my opinion. But not bad. But yes, it does indeed take a lot of patience and work to make them look good again. Check out my Airgun Shooter and Airgun Fan videos from the last couple years for examples.
He just cleaned it. It’s not a restoration
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What a superb restoration!!! 👍👍👍
Looks amazing! Your videos never fail to impress me!
The whole joy of a gun like this is seeing the 150 year old rust stain from the sweaty hands of its original owner. If I ever see one of these videos restoring a civil, ww1, or ww2 era rifle or pistol I’ll probably never watch UA-cam again.
What an adorable little killing machine. It reminds me of 'Duelling pistols' from the movie 'Barry Lyndon'.
Martin Kronström 11mm pinfire has never killed anyone! I don't think any LeFechaux gun has killed anyone. The bullets just bounce off and leave bruises.
So they were mostly decorative? or practice instruments pre paintball?
Guns don't kill people. People kill people, with or without guns. Just kidding, please don't take me seriously :p
Martin Kronström The LeFaucheaux pinfire revolvers were carried in war but were notoriously weak! The one Andre has looks like what was called a "parlor pistol" for indoors target practice. But, maybe it was carried for defense I recently saw a Flobert parlor pistol that had a gutta percha grip and silver inlays.
Martin Kronström reminds me more of pirates
I don't know why people knock this job.Usually the people that talk shit about the way somebody else does something (like cooking,running a business,RESTORING A GUN) is because they can't do it themselves. Most critics are critics because they couldn't cut it at what they are criticising but still know the "basics", like just enough to make a person sound like they dont know what they're doing. Its not yours and your not trying to sale it so shut up. If Andre goes to an auction and buys a 150 yr old shotgun that's a "survivor" and cuts the barrel off oh well its his to do whatever the hell he wants
It's amazing how fast his hands move - wow!
lol
I like antique collections it's really good work hats off post new videos
All the people talking about how he ruined the value and I'd honestly pay more for it after the clean up.
John Doe thank you
John Doe So that means you have a background in antique guns then ? And you'd rather have a weapon that's worth 300 if your lucky, or say 3000 ?
Especially one you may not even be able to fire, after you've destroyed its value ? Yup, that makes LOTS of sense, LOTS !
Those people are saying that because they more than likely know FAR more than you do !
@@ronbennett6396 Why are you so mean to someone you don't know?
Lord Tachanka How exactly am I being mean ? I'm stating facts. Discussing. Just because someone disagrees with something, doesn't mean they're being mean.
For many it seems, their idea of someone else being mean is any kind of criticism whatsoever, or anything they don't want to hear, no matter how truthful.
@@ronbennett6396 Then you could have done the job without remarking how little he knows and how senseless his affirmations are with CAPITAL LETTERS. You are being mean that way. Would you talk the same way to him if he were sitting in front of you?
That looks like something from the 18th century. In the early 1800s they were more modern looking. Great piece
wxwarrior76 Nah, that’s a 19th century firearm. An early one, but still.
how stressed can you get doing restorations like this? i imagine this kind of work must take a lot of patience and time from your day
wow thats so cool. what got you into restoration like this?
Hi
Better than starring at a computer all day...
Andre Will Do It how much is the fee?
Try restoring a classic car. See how long that takes... I’m at 2 years and still going😂
I like that you left the patina instead of completely buffing it out and shining it up
test fire? hehe
FaultedSkink *Andre will do it*
haha yarrrr
Ha ha ha
FaultedSkink 11mm pinfire hasn't been manufactured in almost 100 years. The ammo for that gun is unobtainable.
Just build a test rig and trigger it from a safe place/distance. Do it Andre :)
These videos are so satisfying to watch
Great job. This was a proper cleaning. Not a restoration. Weapon value was improved.
Idk.
No bluing and possible bore damage
@@thegreatchickenoverlord5976
I'm certain this had no blueing ever.
Good example of a pin fire pistol. There are people out there who can supply the correct pin fire cartridges for that piece.
You did not restore it. You just cleaned it up....to me restoring is putting something back to its original state. THAT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T THINK YOU DID A GOOD JOB!!! I know that is not the shared view from the comments below. There are degrees of restoration. I forgot about that.
chronoboat you are slow
That _is_ restoration, at the most basic level.
Isn't cleaning restoring
Museums don't display rusted items they have cleaned and restored ones, nice job.
Not a restoration. He removed all of the finish from the firearm and didn't blue or seal the metal meaning it will turn into a rusty paperweight in no time. It lost any value it had.
Yeah, most restoration channels make this mistake when they "restore" guns.
It should, if only it's too pitted, have the finish REMOVED. Then it should have been...."BROWNED" Same as blueing....only in olden days it was a brown color. That's why it LOOKED rusty. And YES ....IT IS NOW NEAR WORTHLESS TO A TRUE COLLECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@danielmankey9635 But now he can shoot a piece of history. Money isn't everything. But I agree, he should apply some kind of protective finish.
@RESPECT MY AUTHORITY non firing around $50-100, firing maybe $200-300 if in good condition. If he used some Birchwood Casey plum brown I'd see someone paying around $200 if it shoots. He didn't butcher it with a wire wheel like so many other amateur restorers...
Good work looks nice great conversation piece!!
Birchwood Case Plumb brown would be What color that gun was origionally! And you can still buy the paste Or liquid. A controlled rusting agent they used before blueing.
I restored an old german Panzerfaust and hung it at my entrance door. Although completely discharged, still looks impressive. Since then, all my disliked relatives do not visit me any more = BINGO .. double success
No lo sé, creo que podría haber quedado más brilloso. No me gustó mucho ésta restauración.
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Si el no iso los procesos correctamente tiene que meterlos en acido y luego sacarles la pintura en agua, y luego pulirlo no se este men no iso bien el trabajo
Tornooz lo has dicho con mucha educación, esa restauración es una verdadera PORQUERÍA
Andre your the best and I kinda wish you went to vid con for a lot of people can meet you I wish to meet you
Well nice and shiny, now you only have to restore it. hopefully that comes in the next episode. until then Nice Paper weight. 😂🤣
You'd have had a much easier time getting that rust off by electrolysis. That's definitely the way to go for things with small intricate parts. Glad you were able to save the wood grips! When you took them off I thought they were done. Great job!
Andre Will Do It makes sense. Thanks for responding!
It looked better before the restoration.. But awesome gun non the less
Integra DIY what did you expect?
Ari Wong I expected the guns inner mechanics to be cleaned and left alone with the original beautiful patina
Oh
Integra DIY yeah I was thinking the same thing
Integra DIY Kirila gyd vas
You are amazing, my history teacher will be proud
Andre did it
That does look cool definitely would be a cool conversation peice. Nice work
At 2x speed he becomes *The Flash* ⚡
Patrick Dan haha
This is low effort WD40 + washing, not even near to any type of restoration. The barrels are forged damasteel.
How can anybody be so lazy to NOT UNSCREW THE GUN "because it stuck".? How?
Excellent work brother ,keep making videos like these
Браво !:-) 👍
Looks nice!
I personally would have blued the metal.
Now all you need is to measure the chamber to find the appropriate pinfire ammo and test fire!
Well, if you can even find it. Pinfire ammunition has been obsolete for over a hundred years.
Haven't seen one of those since 1775, my buddy was Connor Kenway
Only some people will get the reference
There is a company in Germany that makes re-loadable pin fire ammunition. From a collectors standpoint, removing the rust kills the value of the gun. A good patina actually works to keep the gun from rusting further. Since its been cleaned, a nice plumb bluing would look great on that gun. It would give it the aged color but protect the metal.
Don't confuse rust and patina. Patina is collectors value, rust is damage.
my future job will be restoring old things
Great piece of history there.
Well, now it has no protective finish so keep it very oiled. The patina that was on it could have been turned into a very effective corrosion inhibitor, with a little work and knowledge. Sorry but in my eyes you ruined this piece.
These guns shipped "in the white" frequently. The patina you are mentioning is just rust.
That active rust is called hematite or FE2O3, if you were to boil those parts in basic tap water, some of the hematite will turn into magnetite or FE3O4 which will not corrode and will act as a barrier to further corrosion or “just rust”. Try it next time, you might be surprised.
aslob 9 Would it be a problem if the water was from a well that was hard from calcium and magnesium? Would distilled water be preferable? I've never heard of this method.
The Beardy Farmer: Adventures in Agriculture + I don’t think it would matter, the minerals should not affect the process. Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia: RUST BLUING,
Rust bluing was developed between hot and cold bluing processes. It was originally used by gunsmiths in the 19th century to blue firearms prior to the development of hot bluing processes. The process was to coat the gun parts in an acid solution, let the parts rust uniformly, then immerse the parts in boiling water to convert the red oxide Fe2O3 to black oxide Fe3O4, which forms a more protective, stable coating than the red oxide. The boiling water also removes any remaining residue from the applied acid solution (often nitric acid and hydrochloric acid diluted in water). Then loose oxide was carded (scrubbed) off, using a carding brush or wheel. A carding brush is a wire brush with very soft, thin (usually about .002 thick) wires. This process is repeated until the desired depth of color is achieved or the metal simply will not color any further. This is one of the reasons rust and fume bluing tend to be more rust resistant than any other method. The parts are then oiled and allowed to stand overnight. This process leaves a deep blue/black finish.
Modern home hobbyist versions of this process typically use a hydrogen peroxide and salt solution, sometimes with vinegar, for the rusting step [3] to avoid the need for more dangerous acids
Patina doesn't leave rust pits, only rust leaves rust pits, and if its pitting then it needs to be removed. So you try and watch the video closer next time.
Nice cleaning video!
Am I the only one that finds the sounds satisfying 😐
Jania Isaacs yes
Asmr at its finnest
Restorations video my favorite
nice work..but found it better with the old patina aka rust on it :D
I love all restore. It is very interesting about history.
When the restoration took place 🤔 'cos the video only shows the cleaning.🤨
El vocho Vw the cleaning is restoring the rusty battered pistol
Rust is a PITA to remove. You should have that steel treated with a rust preventative. I'd say blue it, but that would ruin the look. Some kind clear coat might work. Did an awesome job getting it cleaned, but the rust is coming right back if you don't protect that bear metal. Such a cool project!
mesmo assim otimo trabalho !
Né!
They are actually worth more if you don't restore them you lower the value if you restore only reason to restore is if someone wants it done or you are just gonna keep it either way grate video love the show keep it up man appreciate all your hard work and all you do!
Where do you find the guns you have to restore
Mr_ Reee probably auctions estate sales flee markets pawn shops and maybe eBay
Put it in a box. Get it out every few years and play with it. Put it back away. Eventually the great, great grand kids will have gramps ‘older then dirt’ antique pistol with a mighty fine patina like it never happened. Everybody’s a winner, just keep it in the family.
"Restoration" is used very loosely here. It's just Rust Removal.
Crispy Bacon where are your restoration videos
@@Mycatsname On the same page as your self righteous videos. Follow this link to mine gofuckyourself
Looks great. Personally I would have given the wood a light sand with a high grit sandpaper, minimum 800 grit but probably higher. Just help clean it up a small bit.
Amazing🤗
i prefer this kind of restoration. i hate it when people remove or remake or replace things when the original can be used.
Love it, job well done!
Great job sir, regards Carlton
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I’m glad that I’m not the only one that can’t always get all the screws out.
Your hands move really quickly. You must drink a lot of coffee
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I’m only commenting on this video because I just really like those dual hammer double barrel guns...I wouldn’t say he ruined the gun,he didn’t grind anything down or ruin the sharp edges..and it’s far from a paperweight, it’s a beautiful antique,I don’t think it’s ready to be fired..but this gentleman cleaned it up for its next phase,if he has the money to take it to a expert gunsmith who will restore it correctly and take it into a safe firing gun...but let’s be real your not going to take it to the range and blow through a box of shells,it’s a show piece...I completely understand you guys that would of left it rusted,but me myself like restored pieces more than rusted,the value means nothing,it’s what makes you happy,everyone has different opinions and tastes..at the end it’s a nice gun either way rusted or fully restored
Next time restore a rusty trombone!
That would be shit
Hahahaha
alback no homo
That would be a big blow.
@@willmenday9062 IF YOU DONT HAVE SOMETHING NICE TO SAY THEN SAY NOTHING AT ALL
Amazing that a 178 year old black powder gun can be restored
You didn't restore anything. You simply cleaned it and not very well!
someone really made the double barrel a real thing
I don't care what people call it. What i know is that's a sawed off shotgun
As always, love it!
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