I think they could make it work. RDJ is so damn good he can play a variant of Tony Stark that turned to evil after the snap in attempts to get back to his daughter and pepper. Proving he would do anything for his family but gets lost in the evil ways he adapts to.
Yo that dude from Nip/Tuck was actually a very convincing Dr. Doom. He really had that evil conspiring anger or menace with that touch of scientific sorcery genius
I would love to see a variant of Tony Stark. That’s more evil. I feel like our version of Tony Stark was a character that had some darkness. It would be cool to see a variant of his who seems like he’s good, but it’s really really evil.
@@cameronspencer214 well, I don't consider it as stupid, b'coz he is a variant and variant could be evil or good, and there are a lot of similarity b/w Ironman and Doom. Always remember that people opposed Heath Ledger to play Joker, and rest is history.......
@@paultan147 Yeeeeaaaah I haven’t seen anything specifying that he’s Victor, just a Dr. Doom. If you know where Marvel specifically says Victor, drop a link…
@@MrRobinson758 Quote from the moment they announced it : "We give the one person who can play Victor Von Doom" ua-cam.com/video/kKK-GlAYw98/v-deo.html
5:04 They couldn't recast any of the X-Men characters because of the contract. However, this didn't apply to the Fantastic Four, even though they were also originally Fox properties.
It’s true and Marvel Studios cast Colman Domingo as Majors replacement as Kang. It makes sense since they are very confident in the IronHeart and she ties directly to him.
I don’t think RDJ will ever be Doom, it would be too confusing for normies I think. But it makes sense about Doom being THE villain. Seriously can’t wait for RDJ to come back 🔥 🔥 I can def see superior iron man though!
Victor isnt the only Doom in the multiverse my guy we literally have a Doom that was Mr. Fantastic in the current run of the ultimates comics lol and he fully American
Here's the thing, he doesn't have to be American. I would imagine this comes from the same universe as fantastic four which isn't mainline MCU. He's roughly the same age as Pedro Pascal and I have no doubt that he couldn't do the accent
I always thought Dr Doom should be introduced as a foil to Tony Stark Iron Man. I wanted to see Dr Doom portrayed as a leader of Latveria that has tech that rivals Stark. This is going to be very interesting.
This actually makes sense... if you think about it. When the multiverse was introduced and Dr. Strange cast the spell that brought others that knew who spider-man was into the main universe. Then another version of Tony Stark could have come into the main universe and would take the role of infamous Iron Man.
Marvel needs to stop with the multiverse crap. Seriously. Just keep building the Marvel 616 Universe. We could of had some really special films by now and loads of great new characters, but instead they went full MSheU and full DEI, full ESG score, full pushing leftist crap. Now they have to win fans back by being normal and making great films. Not just mediocre Marvel movies that feel like an episode.
I hope rdj pulls this off. He needs to be the opposite of stark. If he’s a cutesy stark doom (infamous iron man) then that’s a cop out. Doom deserves to be done very carefully.
Superior Iron Man is gonna be the big bad. I been saying this for years. RDJ is gonna be the villain because that would "preserve Iron Man's sacrifice in endgame"
The amount of energy and time into bringing back RDJ, maybe they could just actually bring Victor in. Idk why marvel trynna do so much different stuff. We can’t say shi if you go with the comics. Obviously not panel for panel. But foundationally just use the comics. I hope Gunns universe in DC shows a better job at doing this
Just bring back the Dr. Doom actor from the 2005 Fantastic Four movie for Secret Wars that way they don’t have to rush the MCU version. I’d be happy to see Chris Evans play the Human Torch as well as Jessica Alba returning
I don't believe they would do something like that because Kevin Fiege knows that would piss off a lot of people. Robert Downey Jr can come back to play a variant of Tony Stark, that's no problem. However, if they want him to be evil... he can pretty much become Superior Iron Man. But for Dr Doom, we need somebody separate, entirely, to play him. I think it would be cool if they lay out a way where even since Iron Man 1... Victor has been in the shadows. Or have him somehow escape the alternate reality that the fantastic four will be coming from. Have him start off as a good guy then ultimately, with the loss of his world.... He loses it and becomes Doctor Doom. But that's just my opinion.
He’d have to have been a successor or something after Viktor knows he’s going to pass.. maybe even some mind transfer shenanigans through magic or tech (part of why he’s so crazy as a character), but it would be a bit strange if it was just Tony but his parents death made him chase down magic, unless it was all a trap by Doom, might just feel a little flat… we need to feel why he’s so powerful after his last 3 outings… sure, he’s “powerful” in fan4stick and and the old ones in relation to their respective “worlds”.. but they just didn’t make him the villain that represents a huge terror to any universe he inhabits… I even liked the first Tim Story one, but the silver surfer was rough for me..
I could see this happening. But only if they made some version of Dr.Doom without a CGI mask and Dr.Doom without a melted/fused metal face, is it really Doom? RDJ could obviously pull it off but could the writers?
I mean honestly I love the idea and the fact that fantastic four is in an alternate universe and that the Baxter building supposedly was the stark tower so that makes it more likely
I genuinely don't get why people like Doctor Doom so much. I've looked into his stories but there's nothing about him that really gets me excited. I would love to have my mind changed, I want to see what everybody else sees.
Imagine if the superior Iron Man will be pretty much the same we had, but him and Pepper never stayed together, and didnt have Morgan So he gradually became jaded and continues down his angry path
My pitch for his return would be in armor wars have ultron return, but at the very end reveal that supeior iron man was behind it and recreate the avengers end scene where it shows thanos turn and smile and have it be RDJ instead.
I absolutely hate this. Out of all the talented actors out there we keep recycling like five of them. It’s such a damn waste and disrespect to such a fantastic character like Dr. doom . I don’t want to see evil Iron Man as Dr. Doom. That he can come back and play superior Iron Man. if this is true, this is going to really kill it for me with the MCU.
We’d all love RDJ back and Dr Doom in the MCU,but not like this. We know the whole Kang thing is all messed up, but do t rush doom. He’s the best villain in all of comics. Show him respect and take your time in introducing him. There are plenty of good villains to replace Kang to give marvel time to set up Dr Doom and this way isn’t it. If marvel wants doom in secret wars then just make avengers 6 something else. They’ve made a lot of mistakes and ruining Doom would add to that. A lot of rebuilding is needed. Do better Marvel. I honestly would love to see “the Builders” replace Kang in the multiverse and bring Kang back down the road after all the new cools down cause he to is a great villain.
I can think of like 3 better actors. RDJ tends to warp characters to his personality. Doctor Doom's regal brooding is meta. Can't do that with this one. I don't think he can pull it off. Jensen Ackles is 100% a better fit. Cilian Murphy -- absolutely. Tony Shalhoub. Kevin Spacey. Al Pacino. All of these guys can pull off Doctor Doom. RDJ can't. The Doom character attributes don't line up with RDJ.
I wouldn’t want RDJ as DD. RDJ is too sarcastic and witty in his charismatic approach. DD is sinister. He hides his intentions but is vocal about his desires. He is charming and eloquent but is also straight forward. With that being Said Patrick Dempsey should be DD. Like in greys anatomy, he exudes a presence of power and seniority he can be friendly but his ambitions outweighs and sort of rapport or emotion.
PLEASE NO! I hope they cast a nobody so we can see the mask. I’m tired of the MCU showing the actor’s face all the time. The characters that have masks should have them on a LOT
Who came back to this after the announcement 📢
Me 😂😂😂
me too. holy carp! RDJ is back again
I came for the first time. Does that count?
I didn’t comment back then just to come back for this moment. 😂😂😂
😂 😂 😂
Well well well this aged well
Wow some of the comments now look silly after San Diego Comic-Con announcement. RDJ is Dr Doom
I think they could make it work. RDJ is so damn good he can play a variant of Tony Stark that turned to evil after the snap in attempts to get back to his daughter and pepper. Proving he would do anything for his family but gets lost in the evil ways he adapts to.
At that point though it should be superior iron man wouldn't it?
I would be okay with it if he's not Tony Stark that becomes Doom this version of him needs to be Victor
Nah nah nah we don't need a variant or Iron Man. If this isn't Victor, this is garbage.
@@spencerpommier806YES WE DON'T NEED AN EVIL IRON MAN AS DOOM, DOOM IS DOOM
A What If? Comic had Victor Von Doom do a mind swap of Tony Stark and himself in college and erased from Tony's mind any memory that he was Tony.
RDJ was confirmed earlier today as Dr. Doom wtf!!!
Yo that dude from Nip/Tuck was actually a very convincing Dr. Doom. He really had that evil conspiring anger or menace with that touch of scientific sorcery genius
His name is Julian McMahon
Dr. DOOM. BEST Marvel villian EVER
I liked, but... Dr. DOOM. BEST comic villian EVER. No one touches him.
Agreed
I would love to see a variant of Tony Stark. That’s more evil. I feel like our version of Tony Stark was a character that had some darkness. It would be cool to see a variant of his who seems like he’s good, but it’s really really evil.
That's not Doom though.
@@futurafrlx8874 we won’t know if he’s a good room till we see it
Well. This aged like fine wine.
This age really really well
No way rdj is coming back for doom. This is silly
Exactly Nobody wants RDJ back to see that!! That want Iron Man thats what the fans want.
Agreed. He’ll make a great Doom don’t get me wrong, but it doesn’t make sense
What if he returns as Ironman (a variant ) who will just start to wear a green cape and become Doom.
In short, good to evil.....
@@entitiee Thats stupid imo. Just my opinion tho🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
@@cameronspencer214 well, I don't consider it as stupid, b'coz he is a variant and variant could be evil or good, and there are a lot of similarity b/w Ironman and Doom.
Always remember that people opposed Heath Ledger to play Joker, and rest is history.......
RDJ as Doom could be interesting to me but I know the majority of fans would not wanna see that which I can understand
i think that would b fire as fuck
Majority of fans that make up 5% of movie goers? Sure 😂
I could see this happening. If they did the story right it could be good. Reed Richard is the Maker in the Ultimate Universe.
Just got Dr. Doom tattooed on the side of my knee. Favorite marvel villain
Wow... how st.... ... wow.
I would've recommended waiting on that. With the flops Marvel has had, that tat might not age well depending how they debut him.
RDJ as Doom is one thing, Tony Stark as Doom is idiotic. Victor Von Doom is Doom. They can’t seriously be considering this.
RDJ is Victor Von Doom - he was announced as Victor vo Dom
@@paultan147 Yeeeeaaaah I haven’t seen anything specifying that he’s Victor, just a Dr. Doom. If you know where Marvel specifically says Victor, drop a link…
Its a character called Infamous IronMan
@@Sc2ner Infamous Iron Man is Victor Von Doom becoming Iron Man after Tony Stark dies in the comics. That is not this.
@@MrRobinson758 Quote from the moment they announced it : "We give the one person who can play Victor Von Doom"
ua-cam.com/video/kKK-GlAYw98/v-deo.html
Who’s here after MARVEL SDCC
Wtf you were actually right bro!
Whos here after rdj was just revealed as Doom?!!!
5:04 They couldn't recast any of the X-Men characters because of the contract. However, this didn't apply to the Fantastic Four, even though they were also originally Fox properties.
The aging of this video is legendary 😂
wait you called this before it happened? this is incredible sources damn well done
It’s true and Marvel Studios cast Colman Domingo as Majors replacement as Kang. It makes sense since they are very confident in the IronHeart and she ties directly to him.
That would make absolutely no sense.
An evil Ironman? Sure, but definitely not a separate character in the MCU.
I mean fantastic four comes from an alternate universe why wouldn't he
@@spencerpommier806 i was referring to him being Doctor Doom.
Oops
@realsanii its stupid and shows how desperate Feige is
After the announcement guys 😂😂😂
Now he is dr.doom🗿
Well, a variant version of Doom. Obviously.
I love the idea of RDJ coming back as Doom. Sick sick idea
RDJ should return to the MCU as the new Jarvis/Friday in hologram form.
This gonna age well
Nailed it 👌
I don’t think RDJ will ever be Doom, it would be too confusing for normies I think. But it makes sense about Doom being THE villain.
Seriously can’t wait for RDJ to come back 🔥 🔥 I can def see superior iron man though!
I skipped this video last week because I though it was so ridiculous 🔥🔥🔥
Please don’t let RDJ be Doom. Victor Von Doom isn’t American and has more gravitas than RDJ
Victor isnt the only Doom in the multiverse my guy we literally have a Doom that was Mr. Fantastic in the current run of the ultimates comics lol and he fully American
@@LacTose90 I get all that, just preference my guy
Here's the thing, he doesn't have to be American. I would imagine this comes from the same universe as fantastic four which isn't mainline MCU. He's roughly the same age as Pedro Pascal and I have no doubt that he couldn't do the accent
Too bad, he is.
RDJ is african american.
Im commenting to tell everybody that this is true. Marvel Studios themselves announced RDJ as Dr Doom for Avengers 5.
RDJ is DR. DOOM
I always thought Dr Doom should be introduced as a foil to Tony Stark Iron Man. I wanted to see Dr Doom portrayed as a leader of Latveria that has tech that rivals Stark. This is going to be very interesting.
Omg fucking God you where right! This was the 1 thing I took as a grain of salt.
So Jeff Sneider’s credibility just elevated! Meaning we’ll see him more on the Campea show 👏👏
This actually makes sense... if you think about it. When the multiverse was introduced and Dr. Strange cast the spell that brought others that knew who spider-man was into the main universe. Then another version of Tony Stark could have come into the main universe and would take the role of infamous Iron Man.
And he’s back
feels like the goal of these movies are cameos, whereas before the goal was the story and to fit cameos along the way
They fucked it up. They had one job. Do Doctor Doom correctly. They fucked it up. Unbelievable.
Marvel needs to stop with the multiverse crap. Seriously. Just keep building the Marvel 616 Universe. We could of had some really special films by now and loads of great new characters, but instead they went full MSheU and full DEI, full ESG score, full pushing leftist crap. Now they have to win fans back by being normal and making great films. Not just mediocre Marvel movies that feel like an episode.
Do NOT waste Doom......DOOM for goodness sakes 1st appearance in the MCU on a bit part for laughs and giggles. No. Doom won't have that
I mean if it’s just for secret wars it could be fine, we’re messing the end of this world of the mcu, pretty sure they are going to reset everythingz
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You nailed it Josh
This aged well.
Different mask, same task
That FX Legion show was SO SO good.
Love the legend 3000 since young 🐐❤
I hope rdj pulls this off. He needs to be the opposite of stark. If he’s a cutesy stark doom (infamous iron man) then that’s a cop out. Doom deserves to be done very carefully.
RDJ, Tony Stark, DR DOOM!!!!☠️☠️☠️☠️
Or give us Dr doom and RDJ variant of doom
Bro if Dr Doom is not played by Cillian Murphy, we riot
Edit: Idk can we make an exception for RDJ lol
I don’t see any other option he just makes too much sense
You have to riot now
Who’s this “we” that you’re talking about? Lol
Go on... Let's see you riot now... Get moving...
Let's Goo 😂
Superior Iron Man is gonna be the big bad.
I been saying this for years.
RDJ is gonna be the villain because that would "preserve Iron Man's sacrifice in endgame"
You have great wizarding powers
The amount of energy and time into bringing back RDJ, maybe they could just actually bring Victor in. Idk why marvel trynna do so much different stuff. We can’t say shi if you go with the comics. Obviously not panel for panel. But foundationally just use the comics. I hope Gunns universe in DC shows a better job at doing this
That could work. A variant of Tony broke bad and became Doom. Basically the Iron Man armor with a little magic.
The only way that this makes sense is if it’s The Infamous Iron Man; which would suck because it’s not Doom.
Well, it's RDJ, AND it's Doom, so...
@@lexruptor yeah, so will a lot of fans.
Just bring back the Dr. Doom actor from the 2005 Fantastic Four movie for Secret Wars that way they don’t have to rush the MCU version. I’d be happy to see Chris Evans play the Human Torch as well as Jessica Alba returning
Welp, Rumors were right. He just confirmed it on stage at SDCC.
I don't believe they would do something like that because Kevin Fiege knows that would piss off a lot of people. Robert Downey Jr can come back to play a variant of Tony Stark, that's no problem. However, if they want him to be evil... he can pretty much become Superior Iron Man. But for Dr Doom, we need somebody separate, entirely, to play him.
I think it would be cool if they lay out a way where even since Iron Man 1... Victor has been in the shadows. Or have him somehow escape the alternate reality that the fantastic four will be coming from. Have him start off as a good guy then ultimately, with the loss of his world.... He loses it and becomes Doctor Doom. But that's just my opinion.
The prophecy has been fulfilled😂😂
He’d have to have been a successor or something after Viktor knows he’s going to pass.. maybe even some mind transfer shenanigans through magic or tech (part of why he’s so crazy as a character), but it would be a bit strange if it was just Tony but his parents death made him chase down magic, unless it was all a trap by Doom, might just feel a little flat… we need to feel why he’s so powerful after his last 3 outings… sure, he’s “powerful” in fan4stick and and the old ones in relation to their respective “worlds”.. but they just didn’t make him the villain that represents a huge terror to any universe he inhabits… I even liked the first Tim Story one, but the silver surfer was rough for me..
Haven't watched yet but I'm hoping you'll relieve some of this massive disappointment I'm feeling about the RDJ announcement.
I cannot wait till neighboring Doctor Doom and I hope play the right adjectives play to portray him because he would be an incredible character
Rdj coming back as a superior iron man ? Ok but doom ? No
I could see this happening. But only if they made some version of Dr.Doom without a CGI mask and Dr.Doom without a melted/fused metal face, is it really Doom? RDJ could obviously pull it off but could the writers?
I mean honestly I love the idea and the fact that fantastic four is in an alternate universe and that the Baxter building supposedly was the stark tower so that makes it more likely
Well this aged well!! Lmao I love when ppl think they know everything!! Biggest Ego in the World!
I genuinely don't get why people like Doctor Doom so much. I've looked into his stories but there's nothing about him that really gets me excited. I would love to have my mind changed, I want to see what everybody else sees.
Wow…
Imagine if the superior Iron Man will be pretty much the same we had, but him and Pepper never stayed together, and didnt have Morgan
So he gradually became jaded and continues down his angry path
well *damn* bruh ☠️
Iron Man w/o Pepper Pots IS Doctor Doom ! If Marvel makes it like Doctor Strange, in What, if D.S. lossed his hard , it will be amazing!
Well. The rumors were true, after all.
Infamous Iron Man
Doctor Doom is the greatest Marvel Character!
someone got it right
My pitch for his return would be in armor wars have ultron return, but at the very end reveal that supeior iron man was behind it and recreate the avengers end scene where it shows thanos turn and smile and have it be RDJ instead.
That's what I was thinking that rdj will comeback as superior Iron man from 838 and takes on the role of doctor doom in the secret wars comics
holy shit
I absolutely hate this. Out of all the talented actors out there we keep recycling like five of them. It’s such a damn waste and disrespect to such a fantastic character like Dr. doom . I don’t want to see evil Iron Man as Dr. Doom. That he can come back and play superior Iron Man. if this is true, this is going to really kill it for me with the MCU.
We’d all love RDJ back and Dr Doom in the MCU,but not like this. We know the whole Kang thing is all messed up, but do t rush doom. He’s the best villain in all of comics. Show him respect and take your time in introducing him. There are plenty of good villains to replace Kang to give marvel time to set up Dr Doom and this way isn’t it. If marvel wants doom in secret wars then just make avengers 6 something else. They’ve made a lot of mistakes and ruining Doom would add to that. A lot of rebuilding is needed. Do better Marvel. I honestly would love to see “the Builders” replace Kang in the multiverse and bring Kang back down the road after all the new cools down cause he to is a great villain.
It could make some sense if he's from the universe the Fantastic Four comes from. I'm down to see it. RDJ is a master
It's official. Rdj is dr, doom. Wow😮
There needs to be a DrDoom movie, if not a 12-16 one season how he became Vicktor Dr Doom.
The music at the end lol
that's actually really cool good video
I would think this was crazy, if I had seen it 6 days ago
That would be SO FUCKING SICK
I can think of like 3 better actors. RDJ tends to warp characters to his personality. Doctor Doom's regal brooding is meta. Can't do that with this one. I don't think he can pull it off.
Jensen Ackles is 100% a better fit. Cilian Murphy -- absolutely. Tony Shalhoub. Kevin Spacey. Al Pacino.
All of these guys can pull off Doctor Doom. RDJ can't. The Doom character attributes don't line up with RDJ.
Salty and a shit take, wow.
RDJ Dr. Doom would be so sick
OH MY GOD YOU ARE RIGHT. RDJ IS DR DOOM
I wouldn’t want RDJ as DD. RDJ is too sarcastic and witty in his charismatic approach. DD is sinister. He hides his intentions but is vocal about his desires. He is charming and eloquent but is also straight forward. With that being Said Patrick Dempsey should be DD. Like in greys anatomy, he exudes a presence of power and seniority he can be friendly but his ambitions outweighs and sort of rapport or emotion.
RDJ will love to play evil superior Ironman!
Infamous iron man suit must be used if this happen
PLEASE NO! I hope they cast a nobody so we can see the mask. I’m tired of the MCU showing the actor’s face all the time. The characters that have masks should have them on a LOT
I want Ai Tony that evolves into a Tony/Ultron hybrid 🤘
INFAMOUS IRON MAN is what they need. Doom forever!
doom is not a villain, just like apocalypse they want the best possible result for the universe at all cost.