VW Golf 8 - too much cost cutting? - comparison with Golf 7.5 - comparison is valid for EUROPE trims
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Is the new VW Golf 8 really better than its predecessor? Or has VW used to much cost cutting when designing the new Golf 8?
Despite using the same MQB platform as its predecessor, VW Golf 8 has made a progress in safety systems (Travell Assist) and some of the technology (48V mild hybrid), but in this video I will focus on a few issues that I have with the new VW Golf 8, especially lack of physical buttons for almost all controls.
Je novi Golf 8 res boljši kot njegov predhodnik? Ali je VW uporabil preveč kleščenja stroškov pri načrtovanju in proizvodnji novega Golfa 8?
Kljub temu, da uporablja isto MQB platform kot njegov predhodnik, je VW Golf 8 napredoval pri asistenčnih sistemih (Travel Assist) in drugi tehnologiji (48V hibridni sistem), vendar se bom v tem videu osredotočil na nekaj stvari, ki mi niso všeč pri VW Golf-u 8, še posebej na manjko fizičnih gumbov za nastavitve.
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It takes a lot of guts to use a language that isn't your first to make a video. Great job for many reasons!
Thank you very much, I appreciate it.
Yes
Excellent exposition of the dreadful faults in this new Golf.
Very humbling to native English speakers like me, superb video and narration.
Thank you to the creator.
In this Babylon called Europe nearly each state has their own language, so schools teach English from early on and classes are mandatory until 9th to 11th grade depending on the school.
I could imagine in many English speaking countries foreign languages are handled in schools more like electives and regarded as a hobby (?).
However, great video and I really like eastern European accents 😊
Yes that's why cannot activate voice control then he cannot enjoy his golf
This guy just walked 14km comparing the two cars😁😋
You need to get your exercise :)...
If he could just park one car other way around :)
@@intergalacticsucker1724 There's a new genius born every Planck second ...
14 km and 50 squats!
@@intergalacticsucker1724 only cops do that :)
These are the cost cutting measures that you can notice when you're sitting inside the car. But now think about all of the cost cutting that you cannot easily see. Everything underneath the body panels, in the engine, in the transmission, etc. I have no idea what VW has been thinking with the Golf 8.
Nevertheless, fantastic, straight to the point video, everything is very well demonstrated. Great work! 👍
Thank you.
Whoever designed the Golf 8 is stupid. Whoever approved the production of Golf 8 is a moron.
@@pjeng1 : Whoever designed the Golf 8: company yes men. Whoever approved the production of the Golf 8: company accountants. I can only imagine the frustration of the designers who likely came up with a different result than we see today and the constant send it back to the drawing board requests, and accountants who clearly have had way too much input in to the design and approval of this car. I am a VW fan, on my third new VW. I suspect my current one will likely be the last.
Well, as customer you have a choice. Just don't buy what you don't like. Sadly, this won't happen. VW can do whatever they want to do and their customers will still buy the sh*t.
@@iwd1705 Now that's Big Three thinking ;)
(I have no idea how the Big Three kept afloat other than people holding on to brand loyalty. The less-than-stellar offerings by them don't hold a candle to much of their competition.)
golf died with mk 7.5 we remember you as a good car.
Congratulations! The best and the most truthfull car review ever seen on UA-cam or any tv! Revealing the truth! Finally someone brave enough to review car and give his honest professional opinion on the car instead of just reading makers marketing division papers! Hope You stay like that and looking forward for more of Your rewievs.
The future is Yours!
With best regards from Croatia!👍🇭🇷
Thank you for your inspiring comment.
thanks greetings from mk 7.5 owner :)
if his channel gets bigger and he starts getting free stuff, hes going to become just like verybody else
This guy is comparing a mk 7.5 Golf R (The most powerfull and equipped Golf) vs. a Standard mk 8 Golf. UNFAIR comparison.
@@fernandezf80 THANK YOU! Exactly what I said.
Golf 7.5 owners: "This man has spoken the truth!"
People who don't own Golf 7.5: "He's comparing different trims."
Lool, you have made my day :)...
Does standard trim of 7.5 have active display?
@@Matttski It does not. But comparing classic gauges with screen gauges would be less fitting
@@Matttski it does, as an option!
@@citronovykolac nothing like double standards
Lower the quality, cut the costs, increase the price
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The plastic around info display on the new one really looks cheap.
1:20 The new Golf and Seat Leon dont have hydraulic hood struts. However the new Skoda Oktavia gets TWO struts per hood :) Czech luxury...
Rockport1911 agree! Skoda is great
And the octavia has a cover on the bottle holder, no hard glove box, the small storage place under the light switch,...
@@19ZORES72 Yeah, but that's a Skoda. Skoda has always been about being your best friend, being thoughtful of everything ^^
Golf 8 doesnt have it because the hood is made from alluminium rather than steel. Thats why
Probably because the new Octavia has a heavy steel hood while the Golf has a light aluminium hood ?
If I see how cheaply the Golf 8 is made I will keep my Golf 7. And I prefer real buttons anyways, easier to operate.
For sure I am not giving up my Mk7 no time soon if this is just the golf can you imagine the GTI
Real buttons FTW! I cannot stand stupid touch controls for everything!
Andreas Bauer pathetic from VW were paying their diesel fines ?
Yeah... If you have the 7, just keep it until 9. hopefully it will be better... 7 is the nicest golf so far.
I guess this will shut up those people complaining about the mexican build golf Mk7 vs the mk8 made in Germany!
What sort of imbeciles designed the controls and ergonomics in this Golf? They should be fired immediately!
Tesla.
The Ceo just got fired. (:
VW Accountants who are more concerned with the company profits than the car it seems!
Interns. They're also cheaper
William Hope and they now that people and companies will just blindly trade up and sign new leases because it is a Golf.
"Let us just stop a little bit and think about it. ... So I thought about it and it's still stupid" 😂😂😂
Excellent!!
An iconic line, just found my new favorite reviewer 😹
Great, honest review. So refreshing to hear a journalist actually take the manufacturers to task for their stupidity instead of praising them in the hope of getting an invite to their latest product launches. I own a Mk 7.5 TCR and a Passat Bi-Turbo. They are both great cars in their own right. I can't see myself upgrading to a Golf Mk8 after this video and definitely won't be upgrading to a new Passat either because of cost-cutting, too. They took away the analogue clock from the Passat and replaced it with a hazard warning light switch and the word "Passat!' I hope VW take heed and change their ways before they lose a lot of their loyal customer base. Again, thank you for the great review!
Most importantly, the fugly exterior.
those headlights and tail lights destroy the look of the car
Totally failed Golf generation 😷
better than the 7 for me, golf usually looks like potatoes, this doesn't
looks like a no name cheap chinese car
The sunglasses holder is also gone in the new golf 8
I use it everyday! It would be a bummer for me haha :)
I figured out that those holders turn into mini ovens if your car is parked out in the sun, not very good for your sunnies then...
@@luna_lemonade9871 jeez I never would of thought that would happen, you have me checking now 😉
@@luna_lemonade9871 true i burned my nose almost last heatwave over here.. rofl.. but it's a nice feature on golf 7.5.
So basically its a golf 7 with a shit interior and tons of nice stuff removed.
Not really, I have a golf 7.5 alltrack and it has a lot of the cost cutting features he mentioned. I guess you just can't compare a top spec golf R to a regular golf that's half the price 😂
@@saturndesigns2339 I have the 2019 Golf 7.5 trendline, the basic trim level, and it looks much better inside than the new golf 8. My wife has a 2006 Fabia and the plastics look similar with Golf 8. The Golf 8 that I'm talking about was about 6000 euros more than the 7.5 one we got. The new one has alot more tech in it, but still looks cheaper.
@@saturndesigns2339 which cost-cutting features are in your 7.5?
I think you got it wrong... if you watch the video again, you'll see that this guy is comparing a mk 7.5 GOLF R (The most powerfull and equiped Golf) to a standard Golf 8. The problem is that may be there will not be an Golf R mk 8 in the future to make a truly and fair comparison. Greeting from México.
@@fernandezf80 Most of this shit is on the base model Golf so your point is moot
The first UA-cam star who is doing an honest review of the Golf 8. Congratulations to your tough review. I agree to all your negative comments. It is quite sure that Volkswagen will never reward you with a paid invitation to Portugal to review one of their next cars. Well done!
I agree 100% as a Mk 7.5 GTI Performance Driver.
I already had the chance to get a Mk 8 as a rental car and I was quite shocked, how I do not like it.
Some more points to add:
No color paint under the hood, no VW emblem on the engine plastic cover, no CD Player, no cover of the Smartphone compartment, no real DSG lever if you like to shift manually and I bet some other points if you dig deeper. The design is also one or better two steps back. In my opinion the Mk 7.5 could compete with 1 series, A3 and A-Class in almost every aspect. The Mk8 is not even able to win against his cousins Leon and Octavia.
Simple cost cutting was never an Option that worked on the long run. Adding useless digital features doesn't make it better.
But the mk8 is the regular golf? Isn’t that the lowest model?
Yes, new VW GOLF is not enough premium like 7th generation, but VW maybe wants make it. Last generation was something like A3 with lower prize, but new Mk8 wants to be something like Toyota Corolla, Focus, Astra...
I think it is not bad idea..., but new A3 is more expensive, but not so much, if we consider the luxury interior.
Simon Hošek Ford Focus is a lot nice than the Golf 8
cd player :D
Probably your rental wasnt a Golf8 GTI, or was it brainiac...:)
Every word is true! I have a Mk7 Variant and i DON’T WANT TO CHANGE IT!!!
Great review! You are more honest than those ‘professional journalists’ - I had high hopes for the Golf 8 but I won’t buy one now seeing this I would rather buy a Golf 7. Like the new polo this new golf 8 has too many cheap plastics and they have cut a lot of corners. Peugeot put everything in the touchscreen of the 308 and the critics hated it so why do they like it on the Golf 8? Hypocrites!
I like how you jumped back and forth to film the differences, instead of using video-editing software to combine the comparison. Such dedication! :)
Glad you liked it!
O. M. G. THANK YOU for the effort to make this side-by-side comparison, feature by feature. Its SO clear to see now.
Any other way to present your case would not have been as clear day and night.
I've been a VW owner for over a decade, and a VAG group car fan for 3 decades. I will now have a much closer look at any future VAG car purchases thanks to you
I just purchased a brand new 2021 GTI last week that had less than 10 miles on it. I wanted to get a 7.5 mainly because I did not like some of the body changes on the 8, but now I'm breathing a sigh of relief. Quite a few of the things you demonstrated would have been a problem for me. I absolutely can not stand vehicles without manual controls for crucial functions. Thank you for helping me feel even better about my purchase. The GTI is by far the most fun and engaging vehicle I have ever owned.
I am happy to help. I wish you a lot of fun with your GTI :).
Isn’t it crazy how a much poorer company Mazda pushes out more premium product for the same price that is way more intuitive
Not really sure if they are poorer, remember VW's dieselgate they are still in debts because of it
That "premium Mazda product" has a cheap torsion beam rear suspension, can't be taken seriously. Plus those ancient naturally aspirated engines...
Catalin Stavaru The new Audi A3 has a torsion beam suspension. A “Luxury” car. Also, it wasn’t for cost cutting, Mazda was explained that it was easier to dial in the suspension (Ive driven it and it drives better than the old one which was a surprise) and it also minimizes road noise compared to a normal one (Which the owners of the previous ones complained about). So no, it wasn’t for cost cutting on mazda’s part. Its a disgrace VW is doing it for cost cutting though.
And more reliability
@@catalinstavaru5355 The lower horsepower models of the golf 7 also did not feature multi-link rear suspension.
There are cost cutting on 7.5 too. My bonnet is not painted and engine bay, no lock on the glovebox, no insulation on bonnet, car seems louder than original mk7, centre console is rattling, visible B and A pillar bodywork, no battery cover.
Strange. My mk7 has the engine cover insulation and the lock on the clove box. Although the engine bay isn't fully painted either yet all the Skoda's I've owned are older and their engine bays are fully painted
@@Lewis_Treff97 for example fabia mk3 prefacelift have painted engine bay. Facelift mk3 does not have painted engine bay. There is simply only primer. :)
And the golf 7 is also a bit cost cutting over the 6, which was cost cutting over the 5.
Well, since this is my 7.5 in video I have to say it.
My bonnet is painted completely, I removed the sound insulation(because I love that intake noise). Lock on glovebox and battery cover were gone(at least in Europe) with facelift 7->7.5.
@@carsella11 the 6 was made specifically as an upgrade over the 5. People complained that the 5 was too poorly made and felt cheap. In what way does the 6 cut corners?
Wtf even my Mk4 golf has hydraulic hood struts....
My Tiguan doesn't
Mk5 here, and I have them lol
Mk 4 was made in the time when car are made to last. I have mk 5 now, but i have a mk 4 in my garage. I keep my cars how much i can before i change them, but the new cars are made for few years use . In time only + is the design and few gadgets but material quality is more bad every year. I dont understand this trend, put some gadgets (some of them i have it on my phone, i have my phone with me all the time so i dont need it in my car) in cars and cut from quality build to justify the price at the same level. I used to work in a car factory so this is my opinion created in time.
My Polo from 2004 has hydraulics struts too
German cars may or may not have it but check this out, europe's cheapest car Dacia Sandero has it :D
VW hasn't heard of the term "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
It’s a VW so the saying is - it ain’t broken, but it will be.
I was all set on buying a new golf (love my mk 7) but having no physical controls for heating or lights is a real deal breaker for me.
What´s next, ¨touch pedals and touch driving steering wheel¨ ?!
Keep the mk7 or buy the new polo its a pretty nice car
@@SmiFF_ Next is voice activated braking =)))
Stipe Marić no wonder second hand prices of GTI PM are on the up
@@SmiFF_ 🤣🤣🤣👍
Good review. I was pretty set on waiting for the new mk8 R. Seems no manual trans, no buttons and weird lights made the mk7.5 R very appealing. Besides I like the way it looks better. Ended up buying a leftover new MK7.5 R with a manual. Absolutely love it and a 6 year warranty. ❤️
VW was always the master of "Entfeinerung". "Entfeinerung" means: reduce the amount of details most of the customers wouln't notice.
Since the Mk4 Golf the level of fine details declines continously, for example even the c-pillar of the Mk 4 was wrapped with cloth, meanwhile in the Golf 7 even the b-pillar is made of plastic.
Or the highly detailed cupholder in the Mk 4 Golf was replaced by simple cupholderls.
Today there is a simple reflector in the door, in the Mk 4 Golf there was a light bulb which shined when the door was opened to warn other road-users.
This list can be continued in many ways: e.g. the indestructable 1.9 TDI engine vs. the disaster with TSI-engine deaths due to a cost cutting decision in cent-area (super cheap and too small chain-fastener of the timing chain). With the Mk8 VW drove this method to a peak.
It was really Nice If vw would see this comment :(
Could this be because VW is positioning itself back to being a cheaper brand? I mean... Skoda Octavia looks nicer than this Golf.
Back in the day of the Mk4 Golf I felt that it was so similar (constructionwise) to the Audi A3 whereas now they seem to be really different cars.
You're absolutely cover me! Exactly what you say! All pillars on mk7 and mk8 are from hard plastic where in mk4 are with cloth in all pillars!! Also the doors on mk4 back and front from the bottom to upper part of the doors ,have soft material instead of hard plastic in mk7 and mk8 that have ony soft material on the upper part of front doors.. But the funny thing is that there are people thinks that mk8 has better quality from mk4 cause mk8 is new and it's better and blah blah...Yeah the mk8 has better small engines better chassis and more technology but it's new and of course it must be better on those things but in therms of quality , premium feeling (i will say and design) it's just a lot worse!! And for me are things that matter for me and can be reason to not choose the mk8.Better an Octavia which is even better than new A3. Sorry for my English...
Absolutely spot on! It's honestly really disappointing they keep doing this
I need to make one correction: in the video I have mentioned perforated steering wheel in the Golf 7.5R. The steering wheel in the Golf 7.5R was not perforated, but the feel of the leather was much better than the ''leather'' on the steering wheel in the Golf 8.
Additional info: I have compared ONLY the things that are NOT trim/version related. The same cost cutting issues would remain also if I would take a non R Golf 7.5 for comparison.
Golf 8 was 1st Edition, so also not base model.
I think many of the differences you noticed are because you are comparing an entry level Golf mk8 to a top of the line Golf R mk7.5. Can you compare an entry level mk8 with an entry level mk7.5 (trendline)?
The leather is the same in bot cars. What you mentioned that is fake leather is stupid.
MyFladder yeah Nappa in both
I agree with diagobpc. Can you confirm that the two versions you are conparing, are the same line? Looks like the Golf 8 is a more standard one.
The Golf 8 is in trim 1st Edition, it is not the base one, but cannot compare with the R. This is also why I haven't added this the steering wheel comparison into the original video.
Just bought new MK7.5 R. No regrets now that I didn’t waited for the MK8 R. Thanks for the video!
Damn I've been waiting for a video like this. I thought I was the only one who noticed the quality drop. Even the engine bay looks cheaper... There isn't even a battery cover and the gti engine cover looks horrible.
We have a Golf 7 and are very pleased with it, but we'll NEVER consider buying the Golf 8! It is dreadful and definitely NOT SAFE!
Thanks for this great, detailed video!
I liked Golf 7 and owned one. A quality car. But Golf 8 feels like a Dacia, equipped with big screens. There is no reason to buy a Golf anymore, given its horrendous price tag. VW takes buyers for a fool!
Agreed. I just traded my second Golf for a Skoda Octavia and am blown away by the amount of car you get for your money. OK, still VW Group, but my loyalty has shifted. WV seem to be stripping value from the Golf, and Skoda is adding it to the Octavia, especially with the new fourth-generation model.
At least Dacia isn't aiming for the higher class and robbing people left and right. It's a cheap car that gets You from A to B. Some people need just that.
VW has really lost its way. I hope whe the Mk8 is due for facelift they improve it dramatically
sadly it will probs be more cost cutting and even more physical buttons removed.
Joe Kinchicken Maybe
Jovan Korica The facelift might not have a steering wheel lol
There is no Facelift planned for the Golf 8. This is the last Golf!
I am sure they will improve it. This new one has bad reputation from date it was released.
The american version doesn’t even have that gear shifter
american version doesnt get a spare tire, doesnt get port injection, there is a whole list of things
@@bartoski-ag It's revenge for the war...
Its a manual lol
USA will have a manual option
@@bartoski-ag There's no port injection in Europe neither. It's gone again since the engine were equipped with the OPF/GPF. Now it's back to DI only, hello carbon built up 🙄
This is a very good review! I also find it impossible to operate sensitive switches while driving. Is VW requiring drivers to be cyborgs? Haha! I thought it was good to choose 7.5 while knowing the release schedule of 8 in Japan! Thank you.
Thank you so much for a wonderful review. I love Volkswagen cars in the past at least. I have had VW Polos, Golfs and driven Tiguans and Passats regularly. I was able to have a decent look at the Golf 8 and decided to go for a new BMW 1 series here in Scotland. It has a volume control and lots of physical buttons! The best review I have seen of the Golf 8!
Thank you.
I think the MK7.5 would be my choice between the two. Hate this trend of adding screens for everything. Really cheapens the look and makes it disposable as it will be out of date in a year or two. VW was always known for its clever attention to details. It seems they traded there attention to details in favor of screens. Great video👍 Appreciate your honesty
Thanks for this concise, informative video highlighting everyday features, that can make or break the driving experience. Also, after seeing this video I’m even happier owning a Golf 7.5! 😉
The door opening and closing sound is awful on Mk8. Hollow and cheap compared to Mk7.
Thank you for the honest and common sense review. I so hate shiny surfaces. In the Western US, there is nothing like having to cover up parts of your car's interior to avoid the glare. (My MKVI Jetta Wagon DSG trim is shiny aluminum!) Whomever did the interior design likely did not do much driving in Nevada, Arizona or California. Kudos for the dedicated buttons and safety. Why aren't people taking the designers to point on issues like these?
Having owned some 6 VWs, I will likely have to look elsewhere for my next vehicle.
Simply brilliant comparison. Based also on what I've seen in reviews. I still love My MK7 GTI. But not at all impressed with the upcoming MK8.
Our mk7s are gonna stay young for a long time! Watch the 8s start aging faster than the 7s.
I went to upgrade my beloved 2015 mk7 GTI to a 2018 mk7.5 GTI and noticed the same thing. Cheaper feeling door handles, buttons, sunroof, and rear seat cushions, even in the 36K Autobahn. I bought an Alfa Romeo for the same money instead and it's been amazing.
Just after 2 minutes I know I have to buy a used 7. Thanks.
Great review . Well thought out and delivered . Now v glad I have my 7.5 golf . Thanks👌
This January, I was one of the happy few to get one of the last Golf 7.5 GTI, which I was heading for after attending the launch of the new Golf 8 with its ridiculuos cost-cutting interior. I can verify every single bit of the item-by-item comparison of your review. Moreover, I think when it comes to overall high-class attitude, the 7.5 beats the 8 by a mile. Very honest, mindful and helping review. Thank you for making and sharing. Keep up with the good work, very appreciated.
Thank you.
I'm surprised this is a Volkswagen product
This is seriously very disappointing and a embarrassment to be called a Golf.
How about cost cutting in engine and gearbox, that's more worrying?
This guy is comparing a mk 7.5 Golf R (The most powerfull and equipped Golf) vs. a Standard mk 8 Golf. UNFAIR comparison.
@@fernandezf80 both are in R-Line optic, only difference is in the engine, and seats everything else is maxed out
@@kenankundo7380 Lets not confuse an Golf "R line" with an Golf "R".... Completely different concepts.
Fernandez you are wrong.
They have the best Diesel in the new Golf and a very good eTSI which saves a lot
Thanks for the comparison, I keep my Mk7.5 for a while longer till Mk8.5..... Hope they sort these out.
Thanks for such a great review. I have owned a mk6 Golf R for 10 years, love it (including the hydrolic bonnet strut and the physical switches). I was planning to 'upgrade' to a mk8 Golf R+ when it becomes available - your video gives me a really easy list of features to look out for. There's a balance between cost cutting and sales - if the majority of these cost-cutting "optimisations" appear across the entire mk8 range (including the R+), I definitely will be spending my $$$ elsewhere. Thank you.
You made some really good observations and I for one won't be renewing my golf to this model
Zanimiv video. Z veseljem bi videl še kaj podobnega. Bravo, ne lezeš proizvajalcem nekam, ne sladkaš in ne kisaš in pri tem še pol familije ne kažeš.
Angleščina ti dobro teče.
Osemka bo v faceliftu dobila nekaj manjkajočih stvari nazaj.
great video buddy!!! and also omg!! I can't imagine using those controls while driving! so love my 2020 JCW MINI Countryman.. physical buttons galore and a great speedo and HUD setup too.
Respect! Great comparison. As a German Guy, I dont know why VW do these Cost cutting things. They all will follow Teslas Shithole Slogan: "the Display replace all buttons"
I hope the Car manufactors will take a step back, and bring us back the Buttons.
Thanks for this video. In north America we don't get golf 8 until 2022 model year. You have helped me make up my mind. I will not be waiting for the golf 8. I'm buying the 7.5 golf r
You wont be disappointed by your choice. It has this sporty bad ass look and the comfortabilty to drive in the city will make you love it. Hope the service prices are cheap as in Europe
Was worried about the MK8 from this review, went to see the MK8 and disagree with most of the points raised
I love my MK7, however technology has moved on as has the car. Technology in the MK8 was great, interior as good as if not better than my MK7.
Jako dobra usporedba. Nemam niti jednog golfa ali osmicu koju sam htio kupiti, nakon tvog videa definitivno neću.
Istu namjeru sam imao i ja. Bravo na odluci.
Total cost of the VW Dieselgate are estimated on more than € 30 billion. Explains a lot. I totally agree with you.
pebertje 30 billion isn't alot for a company like VW.
You 've cerainly omitted many more cost cuttings like the lack of air vent regulator knobs. The truth is that in every new Golf generation VW makes cost cuttings over the previous generation. Did you know that VW used to have chrome-plated hydraulic struts or seat belt buckles matched in color with the color of the trim fabric? That all means cost.
I totally agree, controlling nearly all of the cars functions via one touchscreen is is not user friendly, its madness and is just a cost cutting measure.
Fantastic video. Thanks for your real-world comments. You are correct to highlight the dangers of touch-screen operation. Keep up your great work.
Thank you very much.
Great review. I am actually in the market to purchase a brand new MK7.5 Golf Wagon in the next 2 weeks. I then seen the new MK8 Golf got released and seen the interior in this video. I will be continuing to order the MK7.5. Those touch buttons would be a night mare to deal with every day.
I am with you with every thing you figured out! They pretend to developed a better car, but usability is getting worse!
All the cost cutting - well done pointing it out - But the reason = the cost of Dieselgate - they need to fill the bank again ..... i know no excuse !!
Really like the way you present. Nice one mate.
Hello, and thank you for your interesting comparison . I own a 7.5 2019 Golf GTD. Having seen your report, I shall be keeping the 7.5 for many years !. All the best to you. Stu.
Thank you and enjoy your car.
Comparing an R with a base model. I would expect differences for $15K more
But the things he pointed out apply to every model.
It was all relevant regardless of spec. Cost cutting to the max! Cheap plastics everywhere and a touch screen that doesn’t work all the time... the list goes on. Disappointing for a Golf
I agree and most of his comparisons do not apply to the full Golf line (despite what the comments below suggest). For instance, in the current gen interior materials and accoutrement do differ (quite substantially) between a base model Golf and an R.
We’ll have to agree to differ on that one. On the mk7 many of the internal materials are shared throughout the whole range that I’ve seen. Take the light switch and electronic handbrake, the same button quality are used for all models. The dash quality is the same too. Excluding technology it’s only the steering wheel and seat materials that are different between the basic S and GTI that I know of. I can’t imagine VW will use different door / dash plastics on different models on the mk8, but if they do then great, but on first impressions what I’ve seen on the mk8 it’s a massive step backwards.
@@JC-bf9zm That's completely wrong.
Even the doors, glovebox, door handles sound tinny and cheap in the 8. When you pay a premium you expect better.
>Volkswagen
>Premium
/quit
The biggest cost cutting in the Golf is they replaced it's 1.8l 1-4 turbo with 170hp engine with a 1.4l I-4 turbo with 147hp in the US. Currently our 2020 Golf is the 7. VW hasn't decided if it will sale the 8 in the US because of poor sales. Compared to other hatchbacks the Golf is several thousand dollars more expensive, yet is less powerful and has fewer options available. We should at least be getting the GTI version.
Appreciate the honest video! Helped me decide that the Mk8 Golf is not worth waiting for.
Key lock exposed like on my twingo great review thx. Btw. U sound Slovenian. Subbed.
Thanks! 😃
It got me at no cup holder covers. I CANNOT!
Fantastic video, I love that you had both cars side by side and you gave your honest opinion. Really the best video I have seen comparing the mk7 to the mk8 :( a shame to see all the corners they cut but good to be aware. It’s funny because the mk7 climate was viewable in the infotainment when you press menu button but it was not controlled at all it still had the physical controls which I think is best.
And the 7th is already a step down from the 6th. 6 has that wonderful satin black plastic, instead of crazy piano gloss, and perfectly designed and placed dials and buttons. Can be driven by a blind. The velvet glovebox alone made me choose the Golf over a Ford, when purchased. One could really see and feel love and care.
Vw is dealing with dieselgate and the eletric revolution allready
Totally agree with you. This car is not exactly cheap either. Since their diesel gate I don't really trust vw.
You shouldn't trust many brands then. A ton of other companies got caught cheating after just VW was the first and most large scale. Same with many companies like BMW using monkeys to test their emissions or whatever
Dieselgate is for idiots like Americans, please could you elaborate what happened with that? People payed little less tax and that is the problem?
Good video, thank you. I am glad I bought a Mk7... Although there are some things on the Mk 7.5 that I like better.
I am also still driving driving my 2000 MK4 Golf. It was built in Germany, and really feels more solid than my 2017, just from knocking on the outside body panels.
I am completely agree with you. But the starStop can be switched off by just scrolling down the central screen. Just 2 actions. There is a menu when you scroll down the screen ;-)
I agree with your review. I’m a fan of VAG and have owned many Audi, VW and 1 Seat but the guys in design are now some of the worst in the market.
golf 7 gtd owner here, i retrofitted all facelift parts like virtual cockpit, screen, lights etc. because golf 8 is a fail. after this car, volkswagen is finished for me
They wast you to buy ID3.
What disappointing the Golf 8 is. In mexico is kind of a cult vehicle and is really expensive. Better try to get a 7.5 gti! Not saying the front of the 8 is really ugly. 7.5 sees stronger, with more character. Thanks for the honest and objective review!
I am renting a Golf 8 right now, and I really agree with your report.
You are dead right, too much technology with the view of selling more cars but they neglect safety and why change good design with different bad design. Its terrible.
You surely lost some weight by walking from one car to the other one thousand times!
I bought the Mark 8 nearly ten months ago. It has been back to VW dealership on six occasions. It was recalled and had a new part fitted from Germany. The infotainment system is a nightmare. Climate function, phone and sat nav take it in turns to fail. Three weeks ago the engine cut out. Imagine that on a smart motorway. Towed back to the dealer. New battery. On the way home the climate control function failed again.. Traded in for a Golf 7.5. Bitterly regret buying the Golf 8 but in two days time it will be out of my life. Looking forward to the Golf 7.5 and hope I can find a garage with fuel! Excellent review.
Thank you. I love comparison videos like this where you can see the same feature back to back between model years. There are not many videos like this. But you definitely got a lot exercise walking back-and-forth!
And another cost cutting : golf 8 drops frames when u get out of it while the golf 7.5 doesn't
Unbelievable what they did to this car. What were the Designers thinking, where were the brand managers? It’s just awful. The only other reason I can imagine for this is if they intentionally wanted to decrease sales in order to direct them to the new Id3, but that would really be insane, and could only be a stupid excuse in the long term. At least the mark 7 is going to increase value
best review of the golf mk8 on youtube. Thanks from south africa
Thank you very much.
Perfect video thank you for the all informations, the same as on Audi's cars, quality cut from previous models very disappointed about VAG cars. I think they will loose clients. All the best.
I wasn’t impressed by the golf 8 cosmetic look
So I got 7.5 run out model with all the toys ppl love 💕
What would happen if that display broke the car would be unusable
John Wright: Canadian viewer. You make a very good point. It is not if, but when that display breaks, and I do not mean from a physical impact but rather the actual internal failings of that screen, I can only imagine the cost to remove and replace.
@@cdpgbc-mw2kz you can't beat a switch or button easy to replace and cheap on my mk7 golf you can't just change the battery it has to be paired to the car soon everybody will just own cars on a cop that are still under warranty if it breaks just give it back
I mean pcp not cop 😂
Excellent video with good points raised. Mk7 already had some cost cutting over Mk6 - eg hard plastics on back doors etc
An excellent analysis of the practical deficiencies of touchscreen controls in cars. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
For those of you who are complaining about the comparison between a mk7.5 R and a base golf, what he showed even the base mk7 golf has.
It's wasn't a base version you can see it at the led headlights
@@UserPauli2592 It's still the standard Golf 8, not the GTI or R.
@@dave_riots so what? he specifically avoided the things that could be related to trim level.
All the things that I have compared on the Golf 7.5R are the same also in the base Golf 7.5 in EU. ;)
@@MtlCarGarage I know scary thing is 1 or 2 things you showed are not standard on the base golf in North America so it will be scary to see what further cuts they take on the golf in Canada.
My Golf 1 also doesn't have hydraulic hood struts. I still see no need to upgrade to the newest Golf.
I’m on my first ever golf, a 7.5, and I definitely don’t have new car envy. I’d agree that removing physical controls is actually dangerous. Danke.
Parking the cars facing opposite directions would have saved you (and is) a lot of time:)
Thanks for the video!
Thx for the hint, although I have used the walking time to talk :)...