@winstonS Go look for videos of cops who try to fight with hands and pepper spray only against a bigger, very aggressive guy. That can turn into a serious problem - so serious, that if the aggressive guy had had a knife it wozld have been fatal. Pepper spray AND serious hand to hand skills - cool. Pepper sray and telescopic baton, excellent. Pepper spray and good knife skill, fckn deadly. Bute pepper spray only... hmm, go look for videos and see for yourself.
@winstonS I actually got one sent to me a cluple of days ago, but in a closed FB group. But simply search with parameters like "pepper spray" combined with words like police, polizia, polis, polizei, security, CCTV, and so on. Most interesting are non-Amerocan ones where they don't just shoot people at first chance they get.
The problem with the demonstrations is also the problem with most flipper knives: they are made for right-handed people. Only the more expensive knives have clips that can be repositioned to either side of the handle and in a tip-down or tip-up orientation. I'm left-handed and the knives I carry either have one tang or flipper on the back side of the blade in the tip-up or tip-down position - or two tangs on either side of the blade with only the tang on the back of the blade acting as the flipper. These knives have blades in the tip-up position with the pocket clip located at the base of the blade. For both tip-up and tip-down, the handle must be held so that the clip is facing upwards (or towards you) allowing the blade to swing open from the right side of the handle. When the knife is in the left pocket, the back of the blade is facing rearward and to the left - exactly the opposite of where the blade needs to be for a quick deployment towards a threat. Obviously, I will need to rotate the knife so that the back of the blade faces to the right allowing the blade to swing open from the right side of the handle. Therefore, the correct way to hold the is with my left thumb pressing down on the outside of the clip with my left forefinger placed on the top edge of the flipper. With a one tang knife, I draw the knife out by rotating my hand 1/4 of a turn clockwise so that my index- and forefingers slip behind the knife handle in my pocket and my thumb comes to rest on the clip. I then pull the knife straight up and out. If the blade is in the tip-up position, then the base of the blade and the flipper is at the bottom of the handle inside the pocket. If the blade is in the tip-down position, then the base of the blade and the flipper is at the top of the handle inside the pocket. In either case, the proper placement will always be with the thumb and forefinger held on the hand;e at the base of the blade. If the base of the blade and flipper are at the bottom, then I will need to insert my fingers inside my pocket as far as I can place them so as to still retain control of the knife. Conversely, If the base of the blade and flipper are at the top, then my fingers and thumb will already be in place to open the knife once it clears the top of the pocket. In either case, I still will have to rotate the knife about 1/2 a turn counterclockwise so that the clip faces upwards and the back of the blade faces to the right in the direction the blade will open.
As a person who needed to use a knife in a self defense situation, My knife was loose in my pocket but even tip down still got the knife in play in less then a second. I still would still recommend tip up but when you are in fight or flight your body just knows how your knife is in your pocket and how to get it out ready to fight. After so much time with using your knife, ex:opening boxes, sharpening pencils, etc in situations where you need your knife to fight its muscle memory. I recommend having your knife in different positions every now and again to be ready to draw it even if it’s not in your ideal position.
Two other things to consider. Depending on the length of the knife, or even the length of your thumb, if your thumb does not reach the thumb stud while the knife sits fully into the pocket tip up dies not make sense. Also, if speed of deployment is your reason for carrying tip up then why doesn't your knife have a wave? If you're going to argue one way is better than the other then take it to its fullest potential.
Mike Janich (spelling), I've been watching him for years now, he's a genius at knife fighting and personal defense in general, back in the days of "Best Defense", really good information here!!!
Excellent primer from one of THE MOST respected guys in the knife defense world. I've personally watched all of his Martial Blade Concepts DVD's but have not had the pleasure of training with Mr. Janich. Naturally, I 100% agree with everything said here. If I may be bold enough to offer a suggestion though. Tip up, strong side carry of a folder is at its best when used with a knife that has the Emerson Wave/Cold Steel Thumb Disc option. This allows for instant deployment of the blade out of the pocket without the hazard of the knife opening in your pocket like with an automatic or assisted knife. It's also one step faster than any other folder out there. No need to manually deploy the blade with your thumb at all. In fact there is an Emerson Wave version of the exact knife that Mr. Janich is using in the demonstration that I carry daily called the Spyderco Endura 4 Wave. I'm sure it'll be covered in future videos but the gold standard fighting knife is a is of course a fixed blade which I also carry every day (Janich's own Spyderco Ronin 2).
Occasionally my wife will need to cut something and ask if I have my knife on me. My response is pretty much always the same..."Got my pants on don't I?".
I have carried many kinds of knives for many years and I prefer tip down but clipped in the back pocket, not the front. I can draw just as smooth and fast and there is no worry about the knife opening in the pocket because (just as he said for the tip up in the front pocket) the back of the blade is against the seam of the pocket.
I don't like having it in the back. If I lose it I'll probably don't notice and there are also people that like to pickpocket stuff which is easier when your stuff is in the back pocket.
I carry a knife without a deep carry clip, and so I carry back pocket so it’s less conspicuous. I also have my key, my comb, a chapstick and maybe a pack of gum in front, so it’s more convenient to carry in back. I still carry tip up though, simply because I like to have my blade out nearly immediately.
Pocket clip placement shouldnt be an issue if you are aware of your surroundings and the potential threats around you. When you get that gut feeling, your best bet would be to remove it from your hip, put it in your jacket pocket or pants pocket holding it in the correct ready to draw position. Always be ready, don’t be oblivious to the point where you’re scrambling and playing hot potato with your blade. Pay attention people, no one is safe, anything could happen at any moment when you’re out and about. If you’re gonna carry a knife, you better hold it close and hand is ready to deploy if push comes to shove.
I have used both tip up an tip down carry pocket knives. Everyone has their own opinion on which is better. I’ll always lean to tip down they are a better option for safety reasons and ease of deployment in my opinion. Nowadays I don’t even look for tip up carry because of my experiences. In the military I always used tip down and it literally saved my life one time. Tip up on the other hand caused much more damage for me while I was underwater needing to cut myself loose to be able to breathe again. The knife deployed enough to catch my uniform and cut through it and cut me. Apart from all of that it is users preference. It also depends on how much you train with the tools you are going to be using day to day or in a SHTF situation or in combat. More knife companies should offer the 4 option reversible pocket clip. For those who would prefer those options.
Spyderco Endura V-10,tip up. I've carried a knife for 59 years. Since I was 6 years old and my Dad gave me my first pocket knife. When I was younger I opened my Buck(we ALL had one)with a snap. With my Syderco(basically all my knives now)I open it silently as possible with no unnecessary movement. I try to be more aware and prepared. There have been situations where I would have it already open and up my sleeve. It's not a show and no go either. I spend the time required to get the blade extremely sharp even though that steel is very hard. Anyway,my 2 cents. I consider knives one of the best and most importantly tools ever developed. I have a decent collection. Not expensive stuff but I do try and stick with USA,or Japan,some Taiwanese. My favorite closed blades are Spyderco and fixed blades are Tops. I still have the first knife my Dad gave me too. It's one of those Boy Scout style with forks,spoons,siccors,tools and you know the kind. To a young boy it was incredible. I felt like I could survive in the wilds of the woods and bayous around my house. I've probably got a little over a hundred knives ranging from Swiss Army to monster Bowies,cheap ones I liked and a few Tops and a Spyderco Warrior that really broke my bank. Sorry for the rambling fellows. Too much coffee.
Kershaw makes a knife for EDC that opens using your pocket. It's lightning fast and no additional manipulation, almost as goog as having a fixed blade. My CRKT FOSSIL has been modified to do the same thing.
My view on folders they are a cutting tool, in my state it's legal to carry any knife concealed or non, my favorite knife I carry horizontal on my belt , it sits nice and flushed and no one can see it I can deploy it fast than any folder and it is stronger and more useful than a folder, I do carry a folder as well so I don't freak out anyone if I have to cut something
The downside to 'tip-up' is that an unexpected release will not only be uncomfortable as it pokes you or your pocket, but it will make it impossible to bring it into play. I have had that happen often, as I am an active person. The kubaton in my pocket has been much more effective, which is why it is on my dominant side and the knife is on the passive. I am listening to alternatives, and looking at different blades, but I have not seen a better option to be armed when I am unarmed.
Unfortunately, it's not legal to carry a concealed knife in many jurisdictions, even if you have a concealed carry permit for a firearm. A judge friend of mine in Virginia pointed this out to me. Virginia issue CHPs, concealed handgun permits, not CCWs. Other jurisdictions also do this. It seems kind of silly that you can carry a concealed handgun but not a concealed knife but that's the way it is.
New York of all places had a case go to SCOTUS that states a k ice is a self defense weapon that is covered under the second amendment. Of course they found ways around it. First there is a 4 inch blade length restriction. Next if you use a blade in self defense , judges will rule the reason you had one was because of criminal intent. They don’t care about Supreme Court or other decisions. In 2018 they ruled assisted opening k Ives were illegal switchblades, which by definition they are not. And so it goes.
Similar to a neck knife, you can lanyard a fixed blade to you belt, long enough for the sheath to touch the bottom of the pocket, and carry it blade down. Reach into the pocket, properly grip the handle and pull it straight out until it clears the sheath. The sheath will remain attached to your belt.
Tip up sucks for appendix carry or back pocket, it’s only applicable for front pocket carry. I’ve never had a tip down knife deploy accidentally, but I’ve been injured by tip up knives opening in my back pocket. If your grip is correct it’s just as fast or faster to have a tip down knife ready to work. Assisted opening is just a band aid for design flaws. I find knife laws can be more confusing than gun laws when it comes to what is legal in different areas, I’d much rather carry a fixed blade knife as a self defense blade (where legal) but one of the bordering states doesn’t even allow anything but a slip joint making defensive carry somewhat pointless.
It was worth watching the video. I never thought that such a simple thing as taking a tactical knife out of a pocket really had more than meets the eye
I guess he's selling his method of tip up knife carry. It's just a training issue. I've carried a (non-spring loaded) knife since shortly after I got to my 1st Army unit. That was 30 years ago. Since days after I started carrying a knife, I've been able to pull it out of my pocket with a good, solid purchase, pivot the knife up into my palm quickly with my two end fingers and snap the blade out quickly and forcefully with my thumb. There was no pulling it out with 2 fingers or dropping it or fumbling with it. Hell, when my fellow NCO's and I were bored, we'd pass the time standing around drawing and opening our knives as smoothly a effectively awe could. It wasn't that difficult. We'd even get some of the soldiers into it and got them proficient in an hour or two of practice. Training issue. I've tried spring-assisted knives and didn't really like them. (They felt like cheating. LOL.) Also safety-wise, if one of those opened point down in my pocket, it would just press up against the other edge of the pocket. One never ripped through and the angle and direction of the blade allowed me to close it still in the pocket or safely pull it out. Conversely, it seems that a point up knife that opened in your pocket would be more hazardous. First, the blade would open and naturally wedge itself in your pocket. Second, when you reach in your pocket to try and close or remove the knife, you're reaching to a sharp blade facing up. I never had those issues with a non-spring assisted knife.
I have a phone holster. I used kydex to build an attachment on top of the holster. It holds my Spring Assist, OTF. It goes in or out of the rig straight forward or back using the knife's clip. But, it can also be pivoted to the side for faster exit. It can not pivot out until it is withdrawn about a quarter inch. This is a locking feature I built in In addition I built a cover that snaps over the knife, holding it in the locked position. To activate it I only need to flip the cover off with my finger grab the knife and slide it back a touch (almost does it automatically) then rotate the front out and I'm good to go with my finger on the activation switch. Underneath the holster I also used Kydex to attach a tactical flashlight. Like the knife it has an easily removable securing cap and comes out with my fingers on the switch. I did all this after losing a good flashlight with a bad clip and also finding my knife clips do not work well on my quarter inch thick steel lined gun belt.
Tip down, I have been through many Knives and tip down or down, if open slightly does the same issues. I have had less success with a tip down and have gone with the tip up with a thumb assist spring action.😍 Quality blades make a difference.
I carry the Smith and Wesson Black Ops folder. I love it. Unlock the safety, press the thumb switch on the handle, and snap. Blade flies open and locks. German 4034 high carbon stainless steel for razor sharp edge retention and easy sharpening.
I carry a knife tip up and forward. The knife has a hook in the middle, and a ring on the handle (no spring assist), this way all that needs to be done is just pull on the ring and the hook will open the knife by catching the pocket. It is shaped similar to a karambit, but without curve.
I would love feed back from Mike Janich on Emerson's wave feature showing up on knifes. I believe it to be quicker to open, less chance of accidental openings in your pocket, and can still index the same as he showed here.
I usually carry a pr of Spyderco Enduras. Light , fast to deploy, they offer a training version to practice with. They are legal to carry so you can defend yourself against an attacker who can carry whatever they want . Every woman who goes out walking g or jogging should carry at least one of a similar knife and train to use it.
My edc Kershaw I use is technically tip down. I'm so used to it that I never even realized I move the knife down in my hand to access the release on it with my pointer finger. Tip up always confused me now it makes more sense.
Watching your videos in Manila. Thanks for discussing about the tip-down and tip-up folder. I'ver realized that I carry a tip-down folder which I find difficult to deploy whenever I practice. I may now have to find a good tip-up folding knife for my EDC. Salute to you Sirs! 73!
left pocket at back seam, changes how it's carried a lot. If you're right handed and CCW, you must (likely) draw right handed. Your right hand must be free. Many right handed shooters carry knife in left pocket to be used by LEFT hand.
So you carry your blade on the same side you carry your hand gun? Don’t they interfere with each other when being drawn? What if that arm is immobilized?
Something I noticed when he was demonstrating tip down draw. He was (intentionally?) drawing the knife wrong. I've been carrying folding knives tip down for around 30 years and you don't pull from the front like that. OF COURSE that will give you an ineffective 2-finger grip. To do it right, you carry your knife down an inch or two from the back corner of your pocket. That allows you to put your hand behind the knife - not in front of it - and you'll have better grip by the time it clears your pocket. A quick pivot up into your palm with 2 end fingers and a flick of your thumb and you're good to go. Practice that a little and you'll be about as fast as a spring-asisted tip up knife. Or you can try it that (intentionally? - I hope.) bass-ackwards way that was demonstrated. Try both at home and like my connent if my way works better.
I clip my knife in my back pocket. It can be grabbed and deployed as you say, by grabbing from behind. There is usually a small 9mm pistol in my front pocket, so the knife has to go somewhere else.
Agree tip down pocket knives are bad but it’s also depending on how u use them and timing because sometimes if u train with ur knife u know it’s better n be able to use it better N formiler with it
The tip-up knives of any real quality are a pain to find. SOOO many manufacturers make them tip-down with no option to move the clip. I got lucky, and found a great deal for a Kershaw tip-up at my local gun show. Still took four years to find one that wasn't $200 or more.
well....I think WEAK SIDE carry is better IFyou carry a firearm strong side. I do. The knife is only gonna get used if the firearm isn't available or already deployed and in a grapple. ALSO I think a WAVE opening is faster and easier - it's zero movements other than a draw. I carry a wave opening benchmade...weak side...and then everything else I agree with.
Solocanoe I also carry my knife on my weak side. That's because I pocket carry my firearm in my strong side pocket. As was demonstrated with the knife, I can have my hand in my pocket, gripping my gun if I'm in a threatening situation. It's a faster draw than iwb, just one step. If I'm in my car or know I'll be sitting in say a restaurant, I'll transition to iwb, around 4 o'clock. I use a Desantis nemesis holster which stays in my pocket when I draw but is tacky enough to stay in place iwb wearing a Kore essentials trakline gun belt. Best belt I've ever owned. It's stylish, provides a perfect, adjustable fit, and is extremely durable.
Yes, that's the way I carry my folders but also the reason because I don't carry my Spyderco Military unless I'm outdoors where it doesn't matter: bad designed clip placement. The Native Chief would be great but I don't have any.
I respectfully disagree on this tactic but I understand it, I been Carrying since 6 years old the same way, and I'm 30 so I'm so used to the way I carry that no other way would be faster but I do see your reasoning. I don't think many people can draw as fast as me, so this probably works good for people without a solid background as it's a sound idea, but I'm quite a bit quicker then many people I know . Good to see people love knives as much as I do ! After carrying and drawing a certain way for my entire life, I just cannot do it differently at this point. Even though this makes sense
Why do we not see horizontal or 75* knife sheaths? A folding knife isn’t a good knife for self defense… so we want a fixed blade.. and the most comfortable way to carry a knife is horizontal or near so on the belt. This seems like a huge oversight in the knife industry.
If carrying both a ccw firearm as well as an edc knife, please cover some tactical decision scenarios in which you would draw the knife instead of the gun. Does defensively drawing a knife on someone require similar elements as drawing a gun (imminent lethal threat, etc)? If I truly and reasonably fear those elements exist, wouldn't drawing the knife instead of (or before) drawing the gun not only compromise my survivability of the encounter, but also compromise my legal defense?
Whether a knife or a gun, it is still considered use of lethal force in every state I am aware of. The same conditions apply, whatever those may be in that particular locale. That said, 2 scenarios come to mind. The first, and least likely, is running out of ammo. It doesn't fit your exact criteria, but is still one of those "what ifs". The second, and more likely by far, is if an encounter that justifies use of deadly force happens at or just around contact distance. I have never bought into the 21 foot rule; but say whatever it is begins somewhere between 0 and 10 feet. At that point, it may be better to have a more manageable alternative to a firearm.
I'd rather an untrained person defend themselves with a knife than be victimized without one. Knew a girl in high school who defended herself with a kerambit while walking home. She had never taken a self defense class in her life but that knife saved her from being sexually assaulted or much worse. That being said, everyone should try learning some empty handed skills. There are a myriad of situations where a takedown is justified but a stab is a felony.
Weird....he said we cant get a grip the knife tight or fully contact. But when it comes to tip up he magically grip the knife fully contacted with hos hand. lol
@USCCA I have a question does it matter which side L-R pocket I put my knife in? I keep my keys in my left front pocket & my knife wallet in my right front pocket.
If you use a knife against someone trying to attack you and they DON'T have a weapon, you'll for sure get arrested. Someone trying to punch you does not warrant use of deadly force, like a knife.
Only thing I would say is if you carry a self defense knife and you carry a gun do not carry the knife on your strong side carry it weak side. This does 2 things gives you a get off me tool to keep some one back so no one can try and take your gun out of battery. Also if you carried on your strong side you have to choose knife or gun and forcing you to remove one tool out of you system of protecting yourself. For me I don't carry a folder for self defense but for day to day task. I have other tools for a purpose. For example I have in my Center console a seatbelts cutter glass breaker. I don't use it often. For self defense I prefer a fix blade carried scout carry on my back side. Like a Karambit. I do carry Colonel Blades LowVz when I can not carry a gun. Because of this it is set for strong side carry. So I'm left handed if I was to carry a pocket knife for self defense I would look at an Emerson Wave knife.
My opinion weak side carry. need to be able to access firearm on the strong side . weak side carry also gives you option on drawing with the left and right hand. Look into draw cut in one motion.
I have a tip up tanto and was able to slowly get it ready, many men with dogs, they hadn't noticed that it was out and ready by my side especially as their dogs were snarling and barking at me and the kids in the campground. The Ka-Bar was on the table but that would have escalated the situation.
Slow deployment. Spyderco tip down has a faster technique. 2 steps faster than his last draw. When he opens his knife note it's pointed down. 3 movements (1) pull out... (2)Open *point and arm both down) .... (3)Bring up Make the pull- the open- the thrust in one motion Impossible his way with tip up.. because the action is in the bottom of his pocket. The Spyderco's hole and tip down clip [factory installed on my Tenacious] was all engineered on purpose. For one smooth fast movement
Forget about the tip up/down nonsense in this video. A tactical folder should have a clip that is mounted on the opposite end of the handle from the thumb stud. When you put your hand on the knife, you should be able to pull it and open it in one smooth motion with a full hand grip.
Fixed blade should be the first choice or assisted for self defense , folders are the last resort by the time you get that thing open the attacker has already seen it and can knock it out of your hand.
The video title does not match the content. Either method is legal. I thought perhaps it addressed issues like “case law relative to the knife being considered concealed if only the clip is showing “, etc.
Great tips. Too bad in NYC if the clip is visible, the NYPD considers it as open carry and may arrest you. NYC - for now - is concealed carry of a knife less than four inches. No exposing of any part of the knife. Also, there must be no imprinting or contour of a knife visible through pants pockets, shirts, etc. For those who neck carry, be careful of tight shirts covering your knife. The contour will get you unwanted attention.
I practices my knife draw every day for 15 minutes. It to bad my state does not allow automatic knives or assisted folding. Just the regular open ways.
How would they know if it’s assisted? If I was in a position where I had to stab someone (for defense) then I wouldn’t even stick around for the cops to show up
Thank you for the video, very helpful. As you and every knife carrying individual knows, be sure the knife clip isn't so snug on your pant pocket that it takes you 12 years to deploy it in a self-defense situation. Okay, longer than it should, 12 years is a slight over exaggeration. You should hear my fish stories. 🤣✌️😎
watching the other knife video, hammer attack by R.H. attacker... I am rethinking my left pocket knife carry. it only emphasizes value of hand-to-hand fighting. now my carry regiment I'm questioning
Tip up just makes sense. have seen so many argue online for tip down. People can ignore my opinion, but hopefully people will listen to an expert like Janich.
Can you recommend a good knife to carry, or at least point me in the right direction? I know there are about a thousand to choose from but simple and reliable. Thanks.
Greg Peterson Look at Kershaw, CRKT, Spyderco & Gerber. Each of these brands have several suitable knives. And there's no reason to pay more than $40 for a good, quality, everyday carry knife.
Greg Peterson You can look At Firebird Ganzo knifes they make some clones from good companies so if you want to check them most of them are under 20-25 $ and good made if you dont care that they are clones. They are China made but amazon have them if you want quick shipping! Other Chinese brands are Sanrenmu, Enlan!
Watch Kevin breakdown scenario-based training here:
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I am teaching all this to my 3 Granddaughters. Could save their life someday, or keep them from being mauled or kidnapped.
Robert Vahle I gave my daughter a good, quality knife when she started dating. Taught her how to use it, too. Ditto for my granddaughter.
Robert Vahle lmao don’t trust them they’re gonna threaten their ex and you’re gonna have a granddaughter in prison
@winstonS Nonsense. Pepper spray is greaat as a supplement to otber means of fighting, but often useless as the only one.
@winstonS Go look for videos of cops who try to fight with hands and pepper spray only against a bigger, very aggressive guy. That can turn into a serious problem - so serious, that if the aggressive guy had had a knife it wozld have been fatal. Pepper spray AND serious hand to hand skills - cool. Pepper sray and telescopic baton, excellent. Pepper spray and good knife skill, fckn deadly. Bute pepper spray only... hmm, go look for videos and see for yourself.
@winstonS I actually got one sent to me a cluple of days ago, but in a closed FB group. But simply search with parameters like "pepper spray" combined with words like police, polizia, polis, polizei, security, CCTV, and so on. Most interesting are non-Amerocan ones where they don't just shoot people at first chance they get.
I've had the exact same "tip up vs. tip down" argument with more than one person.
More good stuff! Thanks Kevin!
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Dan! Kevin is starting to get pretty good at this job! ;)
The problem with the demonstrations is also the problem with most flipper knives: they are made for right-handed people. Only the more expensive knives have clips that can be repositioned to either side of the handle and in a tip-down or tip-up orientation.
I'm left-handed and the knives I carry either have one tang or flipper on the back side of the blade in the tip-up or tip-down position - or two tangs on either side of the blade with only the tang on the back of the blade acting as the flipper. These knives have blades in the tip-up position with the pocket clip located at the base of the blade.
For both tip-up and tip-down, the handle must be held so that the clip is facing upwards (or towards you) allowing the blade to swing open from the right side of the handle. When the knife is in the left pocket, the back of the blade is facing rearward and to the left - exactly the opposite of where the blade needs to be for a quick deployment towards a threat.
Obviously, I will need to rotate the knife so that the back of the blade faces to the right allowing the blade to swing open from the right side of the handle. Therefore, the correct way to hold the is with my left thumb pressing down on the outside of the clip with my left forefinger placed on the top edge of the flipper.
With a one tang knife, I draw the knife out by rotating my hand 1/4 of a turn clockwise so that my index- and forefingers slip behind the knife handle in my pocket and my thumb comes to rest on the clip. I then pull the knife straight up and out. If the blade is in the tip-up position, then the base of the blade and the flipper is at the bottom of the handle inside the pocket. If the blade is in the tip-down position, then the base of the blade and the flipper is at the top of the handle inside the pocket. In either case, the proper placement will always be with the thumb and forefinger held on the hand;e at the base of the blade.
If the base of the blade and flipper are at the bottom, then I will need to insert my fingers inside my pocket as far as I can place them so as to still retain control of the knife. Conversely, If the base of the blade and flipper are at the top, then my fingers and thumb will already be in place to open the knife once it clears the top of the pocket.
In either case, I still will have to rotate the knife about 1/2 a turn counterclockwise so that the clip faces upwards and the back of the blade faces to the right in the direction the blade will open.
Dan Diehl I learned from this video!
@@KimTownsel learning is good.
@@coolhand1078 Agreed! 😎
A buddy of mine was running with an old spring-assist in his pocket.
It opened and stuck into his thigh.
Keep your gear in good shape.
A buddy of mine was hopscotching with an old spetsnaz ballistic knife in his underwear ( concealed carry) , he had to adopt kids .
My buddy was doing cartwheels with his cane sword strapped to his back (unsheathed of course) needless to say, he’s dead now.
Same thing happened with me..it sliced my thighs and my fav pants D:
@@nikitachirich7985 Oooooh...
Ow
As a person who needed to use a knife in a self defense situation, My knife was loose in my pocket but even tip down still got the knife in play in less then a second. I still would still recommend tip up but when you are in fight or flight your body just knows how your knife is in your pocket and how to get it out ready to fight. After so much time with using your knife, ex:opening boxes, sharpening pencils, etc in situations where you need your knife to fight its muscle memory. I recommend having your knife in different positions every now and again to be ready to draw it even if it’s not in your ideal position.
Great explanation of why tip up carry is preferable. Thanks for posting. I've recently added some fixed blades to my EDC too.
Two other things to consider. Depending on the length of the knife, or even the length of your thumb, if your thumb does not reach the thumb stud while the knife sits fully into the pocket tip up dies not make sense. Also, if speed of deployment is your reason for carrying tip up then why doesn't your knife have a wave? If you're going to argue one way is better than the other then take it to its fullest potential.
Mike Janich (spelling),
I've been watching him for years now, he's a genius at knife fighting and personal defense in general, back in the days of "Best Defense", really good information here!!!
Excellent primer from one of THE MOST respected guys in the knife defense world. I've personally watched all of his Martial Blade Concepts DVD's but have not had the pleasure of training with Mr. Janich. Naturally, I 100% agree with everything said here. If I may be bold enough to offer a suggestion though. Tip up, strong side carry of a folder is at its best when used with a knife that has the Emerson Wave/Cold Steel Thumb Disc option. This allows for instant deployment of the blade out of the pocket without the hazard of the knife opening in your pocket like with an automatic or assisted knife. It's also one step faster than any other folder out there. No need to manually deploy the blade with your thumb at all. In fact there is an Emerson Wave version of the exact knife that Mr. Janich is using in the demonstration that I carry daily called the Spyderco Endura 4 Wave. I'm sure it'll be covered in future videos but the gold standard fighting knife is a is of course a fixed blade which I also carry every day (Janich's own Spyderco Ronin 2).
I myself carry a fixed blade appendix carry but this is definitely very informative
I may not carry my gun inside my home, but if I don't have my knife on me, I'm not dressed.
benthere422 me 2 man....me 2!!!!
Occasionally my wife will need to cut something and ask if I have my knife on me. My response is pretty much always the same..."Got my pants on don't I?".
Same for me
We carry arms not only at home but in church.
@@coolhand1078 Everywhere!
I have carried many kinds of knives for many years and I prefer tip down but clipped in the back pocket, not the front. I can draw just as smooth and fast and there is no worry about the knife opening in the pocket because (just as he said for the tip up in the front pocket) the back of the blade is against the seam of the pocket.
Same. I usually have a Kahr 9mm in the front pocket.
I don't like having it in the back.
If I lose it I'll probably don't notice and there are also people that like to pickpocket stuff which is easier when your stuff is in the back pocket.
I carry a knife without a deep carry clip, and so I carry back pocket so it’s less conspicuous. I also have my key, my comb, a chapstick and maybe a pack of gum in front, so it’s more convenient to carry in back. I still carry tip up though, simply because I like to have my blade out nearly immediately.
Pocket clip placement shouldnt be an issue if you are aware of your surroundings and the potential threats around you. When you get that gut feeling, your best bet would be to remove it from your hip, put it in your jacket pocket or pants pocket holding it in the correct ready to draw position. Always be ready, don’t be oblivious to the point where you’re scrambling and playing hot potato with your blade. Pay attention people, no one is safe, anything could happen at any moment when you’re out and about. If you’re gonna carry a knife, you better hold it close and hand is ready to deploy if push comes to shove.
I have used both tip up an tip down carry pocket knives. Everyone has their own opinion on which is better. I’ll always lean to tip down they are a better option for safety reasons and ease of deployment in my opinion.
Nowadays I don’t even look for tip up carry because of my experiences. In the military I always used tip down and it literally saved my life one time. Tip up on the other hand caused much more damage for me while I was underwater needing to cut myself loose to be able to breathe again. The knife deployed enough to catch my uniform and cut through it and cut me.
Apart from all of that it is users preference. It also depends on how much you train with the tools you are going to be using day to day or in a SHTF situation or in combat.
More knife companies should offer the 4 option reversible pocket clip. For those who would prefer those options.
Spyderco Endura V-10,tip up. I've carried a knife for 59 years. Since I was 6 years old and my Dad gave me my first pocket knife. When I was younger I opened my Buck(we ALL had one)with a snap. With my Syderco(basically all my knives now)I open it silently as possible with no unnecessary movement. I try to be more aware and prepared. There have been situations where I would have it already open and up my sleeve. It's not a show and no go either. I spend the time required to get the blade extremely sharp even though that steel is very hard. Anyway,my 2 cents. I consider knives one of the best and most importantly tools ever developed. I have a decent collection. Not expensive stuff but I do try and stick with USA,or Japan,some Taiwanese. My favorite closed blades are Spyderco and fixed blades are Tops. I still have the first knife my Dad gave me too. It's one of those Boy Scout style with forks,spoons,siccors,tools and you know the kind. To a young boy it was incredible. I felt like I could survive in the wilds of the woods and bayous around my house. I've probably got a little over a hundred knives ranging from Swiss Army to monster Bowies,cheap ones I liked and a few Tops and a Spyderco Warrior that really broke my bank. Sorry for the rambling fellows. Too much coffee.
Never thought of this so thanks and now off to get a good knife.
And a good defense attorney?
What kind of knife did you get?
@@crispyhoneybun1607 Can't remember but the one I carry is ideal.
Kershaw makes a knife for EDC that opens using your pocket. It's lightning fast and no additional manipulation, almost as goog as having a fixed blade. My CRKT FOSSIL has been modified to do the same thing.
Retired American Patriot
did you serve the army in vietnam nice
My view on folders they are a cutting tool, in my state it's legal to carry any knife concealed or non, my favorite knife I carry horizontal on my belt , it sits nice and flushed and no one can see it I can deploy it fast than any folder and it is stronger and more useful than a folder, I do carry a folder as well so I don't freak out anyone if I have to cut something
Does your name happen to be Aaron Hallam and does your knife happen to be Tom Brown tracker II ?
The downside to 'tip-up' is that an unexpected release will not only be uncomfortable as it pokes you or your pocket, but it will make it impossible to bring it into play. I have had that happen often, as I am an active person. The kubaton in my pocket has been much more effective, which is why it is on my dominant side and the knife is on the passive. I am listening to alternatives, and looking at different blades, but I have not seen a better option to be armed when I am unarmed.
Unfortunately, it's not legal to carry a concealed knife in many jurisdictions, even if you have a concealed carry permit for a firearm. A judge friend of mine in Virginia pointed this out to me. Virginia issue CHPs, concealed handgun permits, not CCWs. Other jurisdictions also do this. It seems kind of silly that you can carry a concealed handgun but not a concealed knife but that's the way it is.
New York of all places had a case go to SCOTUS that states a k ice is a self defense weapon that is covered under the second amendment. Of course they found ways around it. First there is a 4 inch blade length restriction. Next if you use a blade in self defense , judges will rule the reason you had one was because of criminal intent. They don’t care about Supreme Court or other decisions. In 2018 they ruled assisted opening k Ives were illegal switchblades, which by definition they are not. And so it goes.
That must be why so many criminals carry knives
Similar to a neck knife, you can lanyard a fixed blade to you belt, long enough for the sheath to touch the bottom of the pocket, and carry it blade down. Reach into the pocket, properly grip the handle and pull it straight out until it clears the sheath. The sheath will remain attached to your belt.
Jon Duda thats how I carry my knife its 11 inches so it sits perfectly and I can have my clothes over the top and you would never know it was there
Tip up, weak side. My sidearm is on my strong side. My knife is a backup.
Where does your AR with a three point sling and thermal sights go?
Tip up sucks for appendix carry or back pocket, it’s only applicable for front pocket carry. I’ve never had a tip down knife deploy accidentally, but I’ve been injured by tip up knives opening in my back pocket. If your grip is correct it’s just as fast or faster to have a tip down knife ready to work. Assisted opening is just a band aid for design flaws. I find knife laws can be more confusing than gun laws when it comes to what is legal in different areas, I’d much rather carry a fixed blade knife as a self defense blade (where legal) but one of the bordering states doesn’t even allow anything but a slip joint making defensive carry somewhat pointless.
It was worth watching the video. I never thought that such a simple thing as taking a tactical knife out of a pocket really had more than meets the eye
I guess he's selling his method of tip up knife carry. It's just a training issue. I've carried a (non-spring loaded) knife since shortly after I got to my 1st Army unit. That was 30 years ago. Since days after I started carrying a knife, I've been able to pull it out of my pocket with a good, solid purchase, pivot the knife up into my palm quickly with my two end fingers and snap the blade out quickly and forcefully with my thumb. There was no pulling it out with 2 fingers or dropping it or fumbling with it. Hell, when my fellow NCO's and I were bored, we'd pass the time standing around drawing and opening our knives as smoothly a effectively awe could. It wasn't that difficult. We'd even get some of the soldiers into it and got them proficient in an hour or two of practice. Training issue.
I've tried spring-assisted knives and didn't really like them. (They felt like cheating. LOL.) Also safety-wise, if one of those opened point down in my pocket, it would just press up against the other edge of the pocket. One never ripped through and the angle and direction of the blade allowed me to close it still in the pocket or safely pull it out. Conversely, it seems that a point up knife that opened in your pocket would be more hazardous. First, the blade would open and naturally wedge itself in your pocket. Second, when you reach in your pocket to try and close or remove the knife, you're reaching to a sharp blade facing up. I never had those issues with a non-spring assisted knife.
Excellent! Thanks very much, I enjoyed going over the basic knife/carry principles!! Woot, got it covered!.
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Mark!
I have a phone holster. I used kydex to build an attachment on top of the holster. It holds my Spring Assist, OTF. It goes in or out of the rig straight forward or back using the knife's clip. But, it can also be pivoted to the side for faster exit. It can not pivot out until it is withdrawn about a quarter inch. This is a locking feature I built in In addition I built a cover that snaps over the knife, holding it in the locked position. To activate it I only need to flip the cover off with my finger grab the knife and slide it back a touch (almost does it automatically) then rotate the front out and I'm good to go with my finger on the activation switch.
Underneath the holster I also used Kydex to attach a tactical flashlight. Like the knife it has an easily removable securing cap and comes out with my fingers on the switch.
I did all this after losing a good flashlight with a bad clip and also finding my knife clips do not work well on my quarter inch thick steel lined gun belt.
Tip down, I have been through many Knives and tip down or down, if open slightly does the same issues. I have had less success with a tip down and have gone with the tip up with a thumb assist spring action.😍 Quality blades make a difference.
I carry the Smith and Wesson Black Ops folder. I love it. Unlock the safety, press the thumb switch on the handle, and snap. Blade flies open and locks. German 4034 high carbon stainless steel for razor sharp edge retention and easy sharpening.
Their white ops version is even sicker, you just throw the knife at the intended target and boom let Jesus do the rest 🇺🇸
@3:53.... Damn!
Thank you great information,even for us who live in Europe .
I carry a knife tip up and forward. The knife has a hook in the middle, and a ring on the handle (no spring assist), this way all that needs to be done is just pull on the ring and the hook will open the knife by catching the pocket. It is shaped similar to a karambit, but without curve.
I would love feed back from Mike Janich on Emerson's wave feature showing up on knifes. I believe it to be quicker to open, less chance of accidental openings in your pocket, and can still index the same as he showed here.
Krimson Wolf - I've carried a Spyderco Endura 4 Wave for about 6 years. Love it.
I would also love for Mike to address this exact same question!
@@geedoubleu641 Gee, is that a tip up carry knife?
@@Valmontst Yes, if you mean the tip of the knife points up when it's in a pocket. Are you familiar with the Emerson wave?
I usually carry a pr of Spyderco Enduras. Light , fast to deploy, they offer a training version to practice with. They are legal to carry so you can defend yourself against an attacker who can carry whatever they want . Every woman who goes out walking g or jogging should carry at least one of a similar knife and train to use it.
My edc Kershaw I use is technically tip down. I'm so used to it that I never even realized I move the knife down in my hand to access the release on it with my pointer finger. Tip up always confused me now it makes more sense.
The same argument supports tip down on larger folding knives. You have to reposition your hand from the back to the front before you can open it.
My Tactical Pen is my primary tool of opportunity.
What do you think of the Emerson knives?, I say really good 👍
hello, is there a way to practice at home? do you have any techniques tutorials or video lists?
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Watching your videos in Manila. Thanks for discussing about the tip-down and tip-up folder. I'ver realized that I carry a tip-down folder which I find difficult to deploy whenever I practice. I may now have to find a good tip-up folding knife for my EDC. Salute to you Sirs! 73!
left pocket at back seam, changes how it's carried a lot. If you're right handed and CCW, you must (likely) draw right handed. Your right hand must be free. Many right handed shooters carry knife in left pocket to be used by LEFT hand.
I may have to replace my folder now which is a tip-down knife. Learned a lot. Watching your videos in Manila!
So you carry your blade on the same side you carry your hand gun? Don’t they interfere with each other when being drawn? What if that arm is immobilized?
Should you try to whip out your knife and your gun at the same time ? Maybe throw the gun as a distraction?
Another good one with Michael Janich.
Something I noticed when he was demonstrating tip down draw. He was (intentionally?) drawing the knife wrong. I've been carrying folding knives tip down for around 30 years and you don't pull from the front like that. OF COURSE that will give you an ineffective 2-finger grip. To do it right, you carry your knife down an inch or two from the back corner of your pocket. That allows you to put your hand behind the knife - not in front of it - and you'll have better grip by the time it clears your pocket. A quick pivot up into your palm with 2 end fingers and a flick of your thumb and you're good to go. Practice that a little and you'll be about as fast as a spring-asisted tip up knife.
Or you can try it that (intentionally? - I hope.) bass-ackwards way that was demonstrated. Try both at home and like my connent if my way works better.
I clip my knife in my back pocket. It can be grabbed and deployed as you say, by grabbing from behind. There is usually a small 9mm pistol in my front pocket, so the knife has to go somewhere else.
GREAT technique and you are spot on!
Front faced or rear faced matters as well which was left out.
Tip up! Absolutely! Most secure and quickest....
Agree tip down pocket knives are bad but it’s also depending on how u use them and timing because sometimes if u train with ur knife u know it’s better n be able to use it better N formiler with it
Depends entirely on the knife. Mostly their size and that of your hands. For smaller knives tip up is usually good
The tip-up knives of any real quality are a pain to find. SOOO many manufacturers make them tip-down with no option to move the clip. I got lucky, and found a great deal for a Kershaw tip-up at my local gun show. Still took four years to find one that wasn't $200 or more.
Check Spyderco. Almost all of their knives allow for all 4 carry positions on the clip.
I second the Spyderco. Highly suggest paramilitary2.
Spyderco
well....I think WEAK SIDE carry is better IFyou carry a firearm strong side. I do. The knife is only gonna get used if the firearm isn't available or already deployed and in a grapple. ALSO I think a WAVE opening is faster and easier - it's zero movements other than a draw. I carry a wave opening benchmade...weak side...and then everything else I agree with.
Solocanoe I also carry my knife on my weak side. That's because I pocket carry my firearm in my strong side pocket. As was demonstrated with the knife, I can have my hand in my pocket, gripping my gun if I'm in a threatening situation. It's a faster draw than iwb, just one step. If I'm in my car or know I'll be sitting in say a restaurant, I'll transition to iwb, around 4 o'clock. I use a Desantis nemesis holster which stays in my pocket when I draw but is tacky enough to stay in place iwb wearing a Kore essentials trakline gun belt. Best belt I've ever owned. It's stylish, provides a perfect, adjustable fit, and is extremely durable.
Yes, that's the way I carry my folders but also the reason because I don't carry my Spyderco Military unless I'm outdoors where it doesn't matter: bad designed clip placement. The Native Chief would be great but I don't have any.
Hint: the pocket clip should never be on the same end as the hinge for the blade! NEVER!
what do you think about the zip tie on the spyderco knife thumb hole to help opening when tip up carrying?
that flick open was so cool
I respectfully disagree on this tactic but I understand it, I been Carrying since 6 years old the same way, and I'm 30 so I'm so used to the way I carry that no other way would be faster but I do see your reasoning. I don't think many people can draw as fast as me, so this probably works good for people without a solid background as it's a sound idea, but I'm quite a bit quicker then many people I know . Good to see people love knives as much as I do ! After carrying and drawing a certain way for my entire life, I just cannot do it differently at this point. Even though this makes sense
I just set my knife in my pocket tip up, rather then on a clip. I find clip slows me down. Been doing it same way entire life
How many assailants did you neutralize starting at the age of 6 ? I hope at least 3 a week , a man needs his training.
Why do we not see horizontal or 75* knife sheaths? A folding knife isn’t a good knife for self defense… so we want a fixed blade.. and the most comfortable way to carry a knife is horizontal or near so on the belt. This seems like a huge oversight in the knife industry.
Thanks , this was newn for me
Some knives work just fine as tip down, just depends on the knife.
If carrying both a ccw firearm as well as an edc knife, please cover some tactical decision scenarios in which you would draw the knife instead of the gun.
Does defensively drawing a knife on someone require similar elements as drawing a gun (imminent lethal threat, etc)? If I truly and reasonably fear those elements exist, wouldn't drawing the knife instead of (or before) drawing the gun not only compromise my survivability of the encounter, but also compromise my legal defense?
Whether a knife or a gun, it is still considered use of lethal force in every state I am aware of. The same conditions apply, whatever those may be in that particular locale. That said, 2 scenarios come to mind.
The first, and least likely, is running out of ammo. It doesn't fit your exact criteria, but is still one of those "what ifs".
The second, and more likely by far, is if an encounter that justifies use of deadly force happens at or just around contact distance. I have never bought into the 21 foot rule; but say whatever it is begins somewhere between 0 and 10 feet. At that point, it may be better to have a more manageable alternative to a firearm.
You should attach your knife to your gun like a bayonet and perform a bayonet charge .
I wonder how many people out there can't fight hand to hand but think they're going to use their knife under duress.
I'd rather an untrained person defend themselves with a knife than be victimized without one.
Knew a girl in high school who defended herself with a kerambit while walking home. She had never taken a self defense class in her life but that knife saved her from being sexually assaulted or much worse.
That being said, everyone should try learning some empty handed skills. There are a myriad of situations where a takedown is justified but a stab is a felony.
@@nathandkreosote9917 Aren't those the ones with a curved blade
@@Springz55 Yes
@@nathandkreosote9917 Those are hard asf to use you have to hold them by the side or something
@@Springz55 not really, it's still a knife
You should be able to get the same grip while drawing both knives.
whatever feels comfortable and how fast you can pull your blade in a useable position.
Weird....he said we cant get a grip the knife tight or fully contact. But when it comes to tip up he magically grip the knife fully contacted with hos hand. lol
Wrong grip on draw for tip down. Tip up can cut your finger tips.
@USCCA I have a question does it matter which side L-R pocket I put my knife in? I keep my keys in my left front pocket & my knife wallet in my right front pocket.
If you use a knife against someone trying to attack you and they DON'T have a weapon, you'll for sure get arrested. Someone trying to punch you does not warrant use of deadly force, like a knife.
Only thing I would say is if you carry a self defense knife and you carry a gun do not carry the knife on your strong side carry it weak side. This does 2 things gives you a get off me tool to keep some one back so no one can try and take your gun out of battery. Also if you carried on your strong side you have to choose knife or gun and forcing you to remove one tool out of you system of protecting yourself. For me I don't carry a folder for self defense but for day to day task. I have other tools for a purpose. For example I have in my Center console a seatbelts cutter glass breaker. I don't use it often. For self defense I prefer a fix blade carried scout carry on my back side. Like a Karambit. I do carry Colonel Blades LowVz when I can not carry a gun. Because of this it is set for strong side carry. So I'm left handed if I was to carry a pocket knife for self defense I would look at an Emerson Wave knife.
My opinion weak side carry. need to be able to access firearm on the strong side . weak side carry also gives you option on drawing with the left and right hand. Look into draw cut in one motion.
Which hand are you calling in the artillery with then ?
I use a fixed blade. Folding knives aren’t for me.
I have a tip up tanto and was able to slowly get it ready, many men with dogs, they hadn't noticed that it was out and ready by my side especially as their dogs were snarling and barking at me and the kids in the campground. The Ka-Bar was on the table but that would have escalated the situation.
Did you kill the dogs with the tanto and throw the Ka-bar at the assailants?
Tip up is the way to go... thats what she said!
Slow deployment.
Spyderco tip down has a faster technique. 2 steps faster than his last draw. When he opens his knife note it's pointed down. 3 movements (1) pull out... (2)Open *point and arm both down) .... (3)Bring up
Make the pull- the open- the thrust in one motion
Impossible his way with tip up.. because the action is in the bottom of his pocket.
The Spyderco's hole and tip down clip [factory installed on my Tenacious] was all engineered on purpose.
For one smooth fast movement
Forget about the tip up/down nonsense in this video. A tactical folder should have a clip that is mounted on the opposite end of the handle from the thumb stud. When you put your hand on the knife, you should be able to pull it and open it in one smooth motion with a full hand grip.
Legal pocket knife. Acquitted. Acquit. Acquittal. Thank you 🙏🏼 Amen 🙏🏼
I just got Mike's Yojimbo 2 and Ronin 2, carry the Ronin daily
Fixed blade should be the first choice or assisted for self defense , folders are the last resort by the time you get that thing open the attacker has already seen it and can knock it out of your hand.
What knife is that red one???
It's a trainer with an aluminum blade that is blunt.
GREAT lessons and tips.
Thank for the tips. I love it
The video title does not match the content. Either method is legal. I thought perhaps it addressed issues like “case law relative to the knife being considered concealed if only the clip is showing “, etc.
Awesome stuff !
We are glad you think so!
Great tips. Too bad in NYC if the clip is visible, the NYPD considers it as open carry and may arrest you. NYC - for now - is concealed carry of a knife less than four inches. No exposing of any part of the knife. Also, there must be no imprinting or contour of a knife visible through pants pockets, shirts, etc. For those who neck carry, be careful of tight shirts covering your knife. The contour will get you unwanted attention.
Two weeks ago someone tried to kidnap me and I took my knife out and stabbed the guy just barely above the crotch. Needless to say I got away
Gabe Sheppard wow
I practices my knife draw every day for 15 minutes. It to bad my state does not allow automatic knives or assisted folding. Just the regular open ways.
How would they know if it’s assisted? If I was in a position where I had to stab someone (for defense) then I wouldn’t even stick around for the cops to show up
I practice with my uhhh .. tool at least 15 times a day too , not in public of course .
Thank you for the video, very helpful. As you and every knife carrying individual knows, be sure the knife clip isn't so snug on your pant pocket that it takes you 12 years to deploy it in a self-defense situation. Okay, longer than it should, 12 years is a slight over exaggeration. You should hear my fish stories. 🤣✌️😎
watching the other knife video, hammer attack by R.H. attacker... I am rethinking my left pocket knife carry. it only emphasizes value of hand-to-hand fighting. now my carry regiment I'm questioning
well said and put guys thanks for these self defense tips.
What does this have to do with carrying a knife legally?
Thank you!!
It all comes down to personal preference how you carry your knife and what makes you comfortable.
I carry a 15 inch Rambo Bowie in my g string scorts all the time , eliminates drag .
Great video! Thanks
Tip up just makes sense. have seen so many argue online for tip down. People can ignore my opinion, but hopefully people will listen to an expert like Janich.
Be Prepared For Anything & Everything !
That’s why you should wear thermal guille camouflage so the AC-130 thermal camera won’t see you in case there is one circling your house right now !
Can you recommend a good knife to carry, or at least point me in the right direction? I know there are about a thousand to choose from but simple and reliable. Thanks.
Greg Peterson Look at Kershaw, CRKT, Spyderco & Gerber. Each of these brands have several suitable knives. And there's no reason to pay more than $40 for a good, quality, everyday carry knife.
Thanks for your help.
Greg Peterson You can look At Firebird Ganzo knifes they make some clones from good companies so if you want to check them most of them are under 20-25 $ and good made if you dont care that they are clones. They are China made but amazon have them if you want quick shipping! Other Chinese brands are Sanrenmu, Enlan!
Nice video, I carry a fixed Buck 119. it's nice, but now that I'm getting into guns I'm finding that it is becoming a bit awkward
Yah I have to fumble with my knife before opening
What does this have to do with the legality?
Really good information