Scrambler Long Long LONG Term Ride Review Owner Truths Triumph Scrambler 1200 XE

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  • Опубліковано 14 гру 2024

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  • @paulregner5335
    @paulregner5335 3 роки тому +18

    I've had my Scrambler 1200XC for a little over a year and 16.5k miles (life in southern California's Mojave desert affords around 340 days/year that are suitable for riding, and my daily commute is 90 miles round trip). I haven't had a motorcycle I've loved more than this Triumph in a long, long time. Before I bought my Scrambler I did a LOT of research on the UA-cams and other parts of the interwebs (I narrowed my choices down to the Triumph and the BMW R9T). The two biggest issues I found in the reviews were the "key fob out of range" problems described by many reviewers, and the radiant heat coming off the exhaust. I solved the key fob issues by simply tuning the fob off when I'm not on the bike (hold the button until the light goes red). I assumed that the fob was constantly seeking the bike when I wasn't riding, and draining the 2032 battery with a quickness, and I was correct in that assessment. Since I've been turning the fob off while not riding I get about six months out of a fob battery, and haven't seen the "fob out of range" notice since (I did get a "fob battery low" notice, cuing me to change my battery). I mitigate the exhaust heat (we see temperatures in the "hundred and God-damn-it" range frequently here in the Mojave) by simply keeping my right foot on the peg when stopped, and "de-catting" the bike. The exhaust still manages to blanche the dye from a patch on the inside of my right calf of my jeans, but "Oh well". I have the same smoked windscreen that you're using on your XE, and I've found that it is effective at keeping dead bugs from the back of the TFT and the unsightly wiring harness coming out of it, and that's about it. I also put a "tail-tidy" on mine to rid it of the extended tail on the rear. It's a much better look, and to keep from melting my turn signals I installed a set of billet aluminum LED lights (front and rear) from AJ Cycles. They work great, were plug and play (came with correct Triumph connectors, so no hacking of any harnesses required for installation) and look like they came from Triumph. Most importantly, they keep the rear signals out of the exhaust stream. The only "downside" is that where I live and recreate the machine seems to be a magnet for douche-bag hipsters. The chicks I don't mind so much (I'm staring down the barrel of 60 years old, and many of the hipster chicks seem to have daddy issues), so it's tolerable. All in all, I'd buy the bike again in a heart-beat.

    • @ColGadarby
      @ColGadarby 3 роки тому +1

      Do you ever wish you'd bought the XE ?

    • @paulregner5335
      @paulregner5335 3 роки тому +1

      @@ColGadarby Not really. The only standard feature the XE has that the XC doesn't that appeals to me are the heated grips, and I can always add those to my XC.I don't spend enough time off-road to justify the added expense of the mild suspension upgrades on the XE.

    • @st1buchanan698
      @st1buchanan698 2 роки тому +2

      I appreciate you taking the time to do this write up. I'm in Phoenix so we've got the same weather. Just sold my Trophy SE and I'm getting an XC. I don't feel the need to get the XE either. I'm 5'10" and ride 90% on the street. Thanks for the key fob advice. I think I'm gonna skip the exhaust heat problem though and run a Zard low exhaust. Thanks again.

    • @paulregner5335
      @paulregner5335 2 роки тому +1

      @@st1buchanan698 Glad I could help!

    • @SWFlowseeker
      @SWFlowseeker 2 роки тому +1

      What blinkers did you go with from AJ?

  • @chromesporty4984
    @chromesporty4984 3 роки тому +16

    3000 miles in 3 years? That's all! I put 50,000 (80,000 km's) on my sporty in 5 years and still lovin' it. Doing a 7,000 km trip next week.

    • @kcconnor2636
      @kcconnor2636 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed. That's less than 100 miles a month.

    • @benjamin.f.b.
      @benjamin.f.b. 2 роки тому +1

      garage bike... i put 18k km/year on all three of my concurrent bikes. The last 3 years, covid helped me in gettin me to ride more, because everytime something got cancelled i just took a road trip instead.

  • @briand9513
    @briand9513 2 роки тому +5

    Just got a 2022 two weeks ago, amazing bike. After about 2 days, I got the suspension figured out and I'm in love with this bike. It is a head turner for sure. Every time I stop for gas a conversation ensues; people love this thing! I've dropped off some 2 foot ledges and the showa fork sucks it right up. We have poor roads in eastern PA and I was going to quit riding altogether since my Harleys have crappy suspension. I now have a new love of riding and I love hitting bumps in the road because it reminds me of how I used to hate riding lol.

    • @pcofranc
      @pcofranc Рік тому

      I know exactly what you're experiencing with the suspension on my nc700x I remove about an ounce fluid from each Fork and it made an unbelievable difference and softening things up and a lot of bumps it just soaks right up and broken payment and potholes and things like that. Bad roads really take the joy out of riding and so glad that you discovered the joy of good suspension.

    • @ginoasci
      @ginoasci 11 місяців тому

      Question about the front fork adjustments. There is a very obvious center adjustment screw. That adjustment screw is in the center of a large bolt head, is that large bolt head made to be adjusted ?
      I tried turning it with a small cost and it turns forever.
      Not sure what to do with that or what it’s for ?

  • @h1mb0t
    @h1mb0t 3 роки тому +3

    Picking up a 2019 XE on Thursday. Your videos helped me pull the trigger. Thanks for continuing to share!

  • @birdatkinson1
    @birdatkinson1 3 роки тому +3

    1st thing I did was put the Zard low slung full exhaust on, fixes several issues you discussed. Then I did Pivot Pegs, fly screen and top box. Perfect set up!

  • @flyingmulerider7166
    @flyingmulerider7166 3 роки тому +3

    Great review - I have had my 2020 1200 XE now for 4 months and love it. Going on my first camping trip w/ it today. Incredible power and a blast to ride!

    • @BackDraftBikes
      @BackDraftBikes  3 роки тому

      Great to hear!

    • @nicholaskemp2451
      @nicholaskemp2451 3 роки тому

      I was considering this bike but thought 88hp from a 1200cc was underpowered. What is your experience level and where have you been using it? Cheers.

    • @d.Cog420
      @d.Cog420 2 роки тому

      @@nicholaskemp2451 mine easily keeps up with 1250GS I've just been touring with. I don't go over 140kph though, the popo impound your bike if caught in my country. I've been riding for 40 years, all over Europe, top of Africa, a bit in Asia on small bikes, and many times around New Zealand. Just did 4500km on blacktop and gravel around Sth Island of NZ with 2 GS's and a T7 and the Scrambler more than held its own on all surfaces. Swapped over with my T7 mate for a bit and he couldn't believe the Scrambler after he'd ridden it. Easy to ride, planted, and bags of torque were his comments. It's like a big dirt bike. His T7 felt tinny by comparison and much more top heavy. Suspension way better on the XE also. I was expecting a pretty good bike from reading reviews before I bought it but I'd have to say it's exceeded them and I'm a harsh critic. Very well made and some thoughtful touches too that aren't immediately apparent. IMHO the designers set out to make something a bit special and for me have pretty much succeeded though I've only owned it a year and 12000km so early days and I'm not a fan of computer bikes but you can't by much else these days On that, it's not perfect, some electronic glitches which I hope/trust will be fixed with updates (indicator not working warning light; TC and ABS off lights have come on without reason. All glitches seem to go away if you stop the bike and start it again so software issue I presume). I haven't de-catted and heat on leg when sitting forward in loose stuff not good. I had to wear a leather patch under my riding pants. Just ordered a heat shield attachment for it (Scrambler Xc/XE MAX Leg Saver v1.2) so see how that goes. Also put a TEC Booster Plug in to stop low rev stalling which solved problem. Minor gripes and all bikes have them and a lot more. Goes where I want it to with appropriate rubber and puts a smile on my face. Be interesting to see how it's holding up in 10 years, if the electronics aren't an issue it might turn out to be a classic.

  • @DanDanai1
    @DanDanai1 3 роки тому +8

    To fix the issue with heat coming from the exhaust, and to improve the sound and performance of the bike, I did a few mods which transformed the bike completely.
    1. Decat from Mototrio
    2. Custom made slash cut exhaust with baffles (without baffles its way to loud and you loose too much back pressure, but with the baffles installed it’s perfect)
    3. BMC Airfilter
    4. Power commander from Extreme Rage
    Result, no more heat issues whatsoever. As a matter of fact, the right side of the engine, where the exhaust is, feels cooler now than the left side where you can feel a bit of heat radiating from the engine itself.
    Much better sound (at least in my opinion that is). Greatly improved throttle response. No more stalling of the engine at low speed or red lights. The engine is running richer and therefore cooler as well. Massive weight savings compared to the OEM pipe.
    To be able to tell if there really is an improvement of overall performance, I would have to put the bike on a Dyno, which unfortunately is a bit hard to realize where I live.
    But subjectively I would have to say there is an improvement. I also have to shift less and the engine is way more responsive than before.
    I live in Thailand and the whole project Including all the parts was about 20,000.- THB (about 600$), which is roughly half the price what I would have to pay here for an aftermarket slip on from ZARD for example.
    So all in all well worth it.
    I’m riding the bike for 14,000 miles now without any issues.

    • @whiterosemotors9026
      @whiterosemotors9026 3 роки тому

      Exhaust back pressure is not good.

    • @DanDanai1
      @DanDanai1 3 роки тому

      @@whiterosemotors9026 In what regard?

    • @gryphongryph
      @gryphongryph 2 роки тому

      What is the price in thai bath ?

    • @DanDanai1
      @DanDanai1 2 роки тому

      @@gryphongryph The price for what exactly? As stated above, all modifications where about 20,000.- THB

    • @gryphongryph
      @gryphongryph 2 роки тому

      @@DanDanai1 i was thinking about the price for a machine like that in Thailand.

  • @da72ma
    @da72ma 2 роки тому

    I got the Unit Garage Windscreen and a Puig windshield extension... Perfect now....

  • @PEDALBOOTS
    @PEDALBOOTS 3 роки тому +1

    i will get mine next week, same colour. greetigs from austria, very beautiful landscape where you ride in maine, thanks for your very good vids! ride safe!!
    Peter

    • @DJ-jp6xc
      @DJ-jp6xc 3 роки тому

      My black XE coming also this week! Cannot wait. Regards from Spain

    • @BackDraftBikes
      @BackDraftBikes  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you Friend! Great name too! Pete

  • @davidmohr4004
    @davidmohr4004 3 роки тому

    Subscribed and finding your video helpful. Thanks. Off to check out your other vids

  • @stepheneldridge6998
    @stepheneldridge6998 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent review...the Scrambler is still on my radar ! Your point about the suspension settings from the factory/dealer is good...I have often wondered how many test rides have NOT tempted people to buy bikes simply because suspension settings (and tyre pressures) aren not well sorted. Cheers, Steve

    • @BackDraftBikes
      @BackDraftBikes  3 роки тому

      Totally agree! It was like a new ride. I actually put a video up on how to adjust the suspension so folks would know.

  • @Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy
    @Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy 29 днів тому

    You said if I had a voucher to get any bike you wanted you would have to think about it because there's some other bikes you like too, but you didn't mention what those were! Any ideas on what else you might consider? I've had quite a few motorcycles from a GS500E all the way to a ZX14-R SE. Looking for something different that's easy on my damaged back.

    • @BackDraftBikes
      @BackDraftBikes  23 дні тому

      I really like the scrambler 1200, but I have moved on to the BMW GS 1250. Much better on the lower back.

  • @lukedelaat3479
    @lukedelaat3479 3 роки тому +4

    I've had my Scrambler XE for a year now. love the the bike and it gets its share of attention from other riders for sure. I've watched a few videos critiquing the bike and I agree with most of them however, living on Vancouver Island I actually like the heat coming off of the muffler it gets Chilly and damp here. I stand 5'10 so backing into a spot is awkward without a doubt. Do I regret the purchase? Nope but I do have a major pet peeve which has left me stranded and very embarrassed, the fob eats batteries like a Pez dispenser goes through Pez. After the first incident I brought a spare one which came in handy a few weeks later and yes, I do hold the fob button down until it turns red after I'm finished riding for the day. After watching a video on the subject an uploader explained that you need to bring the spare key at all times in case of just such an incident. Simply place it under the seat and let it make contact with the Bluetooth sensor and off you go. Thank you for your videos, the one about suspension was very handy keep them coming.

    • @BackDraftBikes
      @BackDraftBikes  3 роки тому +1

      Awesome bro- thank you so much for the tip on the battery!

    • @haraldgk3659
      @haraldgk3659 3 роки тому +7

      You don't need to carry a spare key with you. The Main Key also have the same passive nfc Chip in it as the spare keys have. Just try it out, switch it off and hold it under the seat where the ring antenna is located. Bike will start. BTW, my factory key battery lasts over 1 year and about 10k miles. Then I replaced it with a no name battery which died after 2 weeks. Replaced it again with a premium on an this finally holds now over 6 Month, still alive.

    • @lukedelaat3479
      @lukedelaat3479 3 роки тому +1

      @@haraldgk3659 Thank you very much for the info Harald, You are correct on both issues.

    • @d.Cog420
      @d.Cog420 2 роки тому +1

      @@haraldgk3659 that's really good to know, thanks Harald. Mine is 13 months old, I don't turn the fob off and is still on original battery. Best I get a spare one quick it seems.

    • @dantemenzies5719
      @dantemenzies5719 2 роки тому +1

      I have the scrambler XC and live on Vancouver island too man
      Nice

  • @MrGrant440
    @MrGrant440 3 роки тому +1

    I just purchased a 2020 XC. I love it, I have had it 2 months. You are so right on everything. I can’t believe it doesn’t come stock with the tail tidy. the mirrors suck. I also don’t like the Keyless entry… I’m not sure why. It’s just something else that can go wrong…I also hate that when you go your own maintenance you have to take it in to have them clear the “service wrench”. Are you happy with the zard aftermarket exhaust? Have you done anything with rear storage? I have been looking at Metal Mule. But all in is $1300.00 thanks for the videos.

    • @BackDraftBikes
      @BackDraftBikes  3 роки тому

      Go to the dealer and they can refresh the ECM with an update, then you can reset the service light yourself. Rear storage- I put the OEM luggage rack on and a rear pack Kriega US-30 Drypack. Works great and much less money! Ride Safe

    • @MrGrant440
      @MrGrant440 3 роки тому

      @@BackDraftBikes thanks for the response… So another question, when your dry bag is loaded up are hauling more than the 4 pound limit on the OEM Rack… seems like thats not a lot of weight..

    • @BackDraftBikes
      @BackDraftBikes  3 роки тому +1

      It is a "recommendation" to keep top-heavy-ness down. That is my guess. If I had a passenger I can tell you it would be more than 50lbs, so what is the big deal? Just my humble opinion.

    • @MrGrant440
      @MrGrant440 3 роки тому

      @@BackDraftBikes ha ha exactly. Keep up the great videos. We love them

  • @pisethsok4868
    @pisethsok4868 3 роки тому

    where I live is hard to find triumph, have to auction and get from oversea. I got mine XC (wish someone brought in XE) but really happy with it.

  • @pcofranc
    @pcofranc Рік тому

    9:20 Hit me with a rock and hit me now. My NC700X has similar shortcomings - I hit a concrete stop? that was laid at an angle between parking lots at night and scrapped the crankcase cover - which doesn't even have a bash plate. Also, I added a center stand and crash bars. Also, front fender is too short and rear lacks a mini fender above the tire like most sport-bikes have.

  • @tannenherz
    @tannenherz 3 роки тому

    High, when i've seen it first time, i thought the same about the front-fender. Thank you for your work. Kindly Fiete

  • @Adventure_blac
    @Adventure_blac 2 місяці тому

    Just so people don’t get the wrong impression about this bike or be confused by some of his comment Ms about not wanting to take the bike in serious off road or rocky sections. Its max tor torque comes in at 3950 HP at 7400. Its torque comes in lower than any adv bike by far and the HP close to being the lowest hp in terms of rpms

  • @ginoasci
    @ginoasci 11 місяців тому

    Question about the front fork adjustments. There is a very obvious center adjustment screw. That adjustment screw is in the center of a large bolt head, is that large bolt head made to be adjusted ?
    I tried turning it with a small cost and it turns forever.
    Not sure what to do with that or what it’s for ?

    • @oceanhang4360
      @oceanhang4360 10 місяців тому

      大螺栓是调整前悬挂的预载,顺时针紧。 Tiao'z钛

    • @ginoasci
      @ginoasci 10 місяців тому

      @@oceanhang4360: could you please translate that to English ?
      Thank you

    • @oceanhang4360
      @oceanhang4360 10 місяців тому

      The big bolt is to adjust the preload of the front suspension. Tighten it clockwise.@@ginoasci

    • @ginoasci
      @ginoasci 10 місяців тому

      @@oceanhang4360 thank you

  • @jeffmccollum3769
    @jeffmccollum3769 3 роки тому

    Do some more videos. This one was great, thanks

  • @jink221
    @jink221 2 роки тому

    Beautiful moto! I am pondering one of these in the future but I am worried about the height. I am 5'8 with a 29" inseam and currently ride a 2013 V-Strom (32.9 inch seat). I feel comfortable on the Strom since I one-foot at stops and just push the bike when I have to back it in.
    Do you think I would have any issues with this bike? I ride 100% street but I can't get over how the XE looks over the XC. Thanks in advance!

    • @BackDraftBikes
      @BackDraftBikes  2 роки тому

      I think you might be a tad short for the bike. You can adjust the suspension, but it is a very tall bike, sorry to say. Find a dealer and take test ride?

  • @flyingmulerider7166
    @flyingmulerider7166 3 роки тому

    Take it for a test ride. It is all about the low end torque! Plenty of power !

  • @kookiethebear
    @kookiethebear 2 роки тому

    Suspension setup is part of the Dealer Prep fee, not "factory".

  • @tylerharding6958
    @tylerharding6958 3 роки тому

    Any suggestions on lower rally pegs ? Or a higher seat option.

    • @BackDraftBikes
      @BackDraftBikes  3 роки тому

      Triumph sells a few seats. Some mfg's are making peg options too, the bike does sit up very high though. I am 6'4" and my feet dont sit flat on the ground. Cheers and ride safe!

  • @alecsturgeon6954
    @alecsturgeon6954 3 роки тому

    Any chance you could point me to where you got the bar end mirrors? Are those the factory hand guards? Thanks!

    • @BackDraftBikes
      @BackDraftBikes  3 роки тому

      A and J cycles in NY. Super good guys, just google the website and you will find them

  • @jeffmarsden9644
    @jeffmarsden9644 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome bike. Thinking of getting one myself, but 3000 miles in three years!! I wish someone would do a review of the bike after 20,000 miles for those of us who actually put miles on bikes to know how all those electronics hold up. Good review tho.

    • @BackDraftBikes
      @BackDraftBikes  3 роки тому +2

      I put 1k on it this week! I am at 4k. Pandemic and working as an EMT set me back, I would have 6-7k on it if it wasn't for covid and work! I will repost again here soon...

  • @franckbeillard
    @franckbeillard 3 роки тому

    Hi, at 16:40, you mention a new map. On 2019 XE, it's map 30254, what is the new one?

    • @BackDraftBikes
      @BackDraftBikes  3 роки тому

      Sorry I do not know. The dealer just said "We updated the map for you" 🏴‍☠️

  • @SWFlowseeker
    @SWFlowseeker 2 роки тому

    Nice vid. Can I ask what mirrors are you running?

  • @jonduhaime9508
    @jonduhaime9508 3 роки тому

    Hello, fellow granite stater here. Have you done much off road with the bike?

    • @BackDraftBikes
      @BackDraftBikes  3 роки тому

      Hello! But I am in Maine, so technically you are a granite head😂 I am a Maniac... I have done lots of dirt roads, very very good. Anything too chunky with these tires it does get loose. It is very capable for such a large bike off road. With Nobbies this thing would be unstoppable.

  • @whatsup9260
    @whatsup9260 2 роки тому

    2020 XC bought new may 2021, use a cloth to prevent your ratchet box to fall in the starter area/engine when removing the plug to fill the engine oil or you will swear like a Pirate on a windless sea.
    they need more cushion on that seat or are my butt cheek to skinny ?
    i seem to have a perticular issue on mine in that the engine cooling fan as a negative angle and rubs on the radiator on its bottom. lost the bike for 3 month last summer after 3600km after buying it new, luckily i had not sold my 40,000km suzuki (ass breaker) bobber so i got to ride some more.
    They changed the parts but the position of that cooling fan appears to be the same and its hard to see if there is enough space between the fan and the radiator. I will likely need to fix it myself or else that fan will drill another hole on that radiator. (stored for winter right now)
    They flashed the computer, the engine would stall on cold start (july 30 celcius plus, after a full night stopped or at the end of the work day). the start issue is fixed but at low speed on the 2 first gear in the city, it is not fun due to unstable RPM.
    questionable range on the gas tank or consumptiion and limited luggage options without being creative will make long haul funky.
    i put on a tail tidy, looks great but your back will get muddy as F(&?%. I also put an Amarit raised front fender, get ready to eat some dirt and lose your front light in mud etc...tinking of puttinng back the original fender painted in black cause that radiator gets clogged and i only do back country roads not even off road.
    its a looker first, with options, so a good bike but you need to think hard on what you need and want ... like anything else i guess.
    second season will start in a few weeks as we are still getting some snow and shoveling it, Will see from there but, hope it will be without issues as this is my first non Japanese brand motorcycle and i am somewhat disapointed at my choice. (but damn its a great looking bugger)

  • @temproenterprises2424
    @temproenterprises2424 3 роки тому +1

    3000 miles in 3 years?? Was that supposed to be 30,000 miles??
    Great review I agree with your assessment except I am going to do long trips on mine 👍🏼

    • @BackDraftBikes
      @BackDraftBikes  3 роки тому +1

      I put 1k on it this week! I am at 4k. Pandemic and working as an EMT set me back, I would have 6-7k on it if it wasn't for covid and work! I will repost again here soon...

    • @temproenterprises2424
      @temproenterprises2424 3 роки тому +1

      @@BackDraftBikes I am a first responder as well, but luckily I ride to work in mine. Stay safe!

  • @aidyf4215
    @aidyf4215 3 роки тому

    Great review 👍🏼

  • @wildijp62
    @wildijp62 2 роки тому

    A thousand mile a year on the Scrambler XE ?… don’t you ❤️ the bike ?

  • @elithegreat6463
    @elithegreat6463 2 роки тому

    How can cruise control be "Kinda" Cool ????

  • @t.b.3483
    @t.b.3483 3 роки тому +3

    Harley snobs are nation wide, by my experience (pacific northwest) around 10% of Harley riders are not snobs.

  • @1990-t1j
    @1990-t1j 3 роки тому

    3,000 miles in three years = long long long term?

  • @austinblake2144
    @austinblake2144 Рік тому

    Cmon This is a short term review lmao 3k miles? Ive put double that on 1 of my bikes in one season. Good video regardless

  • @eatsleepplayrepeat
    @eatsleepplayrepeat 2 роки тому

    You kidding me? I have just over 3000 miles on mine and had it for like 4 months.

  • @martinboagey2422
    @martinboagey2422 2 роки тому

    Low miles in 3 years can’t like it that much! 😂

  • @chuckmatses6803
    @chuckmatses6803 2 роки тому

    Not everyone wants or likes crash bars. They add uneccessary weight and bulk. I can’t stand crash bars. They look stupid. It’s not the factory’s responsibility to supply your crash bars.

    • @Ian-bq7gp
      @Ian-bq7gp Рік тому +1

      I've never had crash bars but for an adventure bike where you are using it on a long journey across Africa for example they will protect things like the engine cases if it's dropped which is going to maybe save a lot of hastle and money. Yes crash bars are ugly but in India many Enfield's have them which is needed as they are crazy as hell, cutting up and overtaking like maniacs on awful roads even worse in monsoon season.