Given your research into these cartridges, how authentic is the method that most other sellers of paper cartridge formers utilize......the 2 piece paper envelope and the way the paper is wrapped around the mandrel, such as the Manley mandrel?
This is how the original Johnston and dows were constructed. Each manufacturer had different ways of making the envelopes. All the modern formers are not historically correct for the Johnston and Dow cartridge.
Will the cap be able to pinch through the rolled and twisted end of the cartridge? Just made some of these and I am a little concerned about that, because the center of the twist ist fairly thick...
@@crossencartridge6403 Just saw this original JD cartridge. www.horsesoldier.com/products/firearms/cartridges-and-gun-tools/45629. If you zoom in, you can see some twisting of the paper at the bottom of the cartridge tube. I also ask.....Will modern percussion caps fire these cartridges made by the method that you demonstrate? The bases do seem a little thick.
Hello, could you tell us please how you nitrated the tissue paper? ;) Did you Cook it in the solution, or did you just put it in some warm solution? Because it easily tears apart when cooking it 😂🙈 Thx in advance!
I did several layers together. Soak a stack, pull it out, let it dry and peel apart. The other way is to lay the thin paper on some widow screen and spray it with a weak solution of KNo3 in an old spray bottle. Do this 2 times on a hot sunny day. (dries fast). Clear the spray nozzle with water or crystals will clog it up. I will post a video on how to do this method.
@@crossencartridge6403 Thanks for the hint! :) I just tried this method and have to say, it works fine! Used a mixture of saturated solution with about 50 degree temp. (celcius) and sprayed it on both sides. Burns even better as I thought it would, so perfect for me! THX again! :)
I have tried it with out nitrating and had a lot of unburnt paper. The nitrating adds oxygen for a more complete burn. Nitrocellulose glue also needs oxygen to burn.
Following your instructions, I got good results. thank you for your commitment and effort to share your knowledge and work with us.
Good to hear, thank you for trying them out.
Here's and original in good condition
www.horsesoldier.com/products/firearms/cartridges-and-gun-tools/45629
I can't find the clamps you are using when you apply the glue to the nitrate paper on your website. The "Hazard clamps" for .44 cartridges.
Given your research into these cartridges, how authentic is the method that most other sellers of paper cartridge formers utilize......the 2 piece paper envelope and the way the paper is wrapped around the mandrel, such as the Manley mandrel?
This is how the original Johnston and dows were constructed. Each manufacturer had different ways of making the envelopes. All the modern formers are not historically correct for the Johnston and Dow cartridge.
Will the cap be able to pinch through the rolled and twisted end of the cartridge?
Just made some of these and I am a little concerned about that, because the center of the twist ist fairly thick...
@@crossencartridge6403 Just saw this original JD cartridge. www.horsesoldier.com/products/firearms/cartridges-and-gun-tools/45629. If you zoom in, you can see some twisting of the paper at the bottom of the cartridge tube. I also ask.....Will modern percussion caps fire these cartridges made by the method that you demonstrate? The bases do seem a little thick.
Hello, could you tell us please how you nitrated the tissue paper? ;)
Did you Cook it in the solution, or did you just put it in some warm solution?
Because it easily tears apart when cooking it 😂🙈
Thx in advance!
I did several layers together. Soak a stack, pull it out, let it dry and peel apart. The other way is to lay the thin paper on some widow screen and spray it with a weak solution of KNo3 in an old spray bottle. Do this 2 times on a hot sunny day. (dries fast). Clear the spray nozzle with water or crystals will clog it up. I will post a video on how to do this method.
@@crossencartridge6403 Thanks for the hint! :)
I just tried this method and have to say, it works fine!
Used a mixture of saturated solution with about 50 degree temp. (celcius) and sprayed it on both sides.
Burns even better as I thought it would, so perfect for me!
THX again! :)
Why, do you need to nitrate the paper if you are waterproofing with nitrate glue?
I have tried it with out nitrating and had a lot of unburnt paper. The nitrating adds oxygen for a more complete burn. Nitrocellulose glue also needs oxygen to burn.