I must admit even though I own a Machine Mikro MK3 I never use it so I cant really pass judgement. I can only say objectively that it looks like a light update. Talking of groove boxes do you have any, other than Maschine? You should check out the underrated Roland MC-101 if you haven't used one.
Hey Reece, you are right. This is a light update and nothing revolutionary that would bang out the competition. As far as other grooveboxes, I had a old school Boss DR550 that started me off with music. Man I LOVED that thing! Classic! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@@unrealone1 That would be dope especially because I didn't get a chance to experience it but I have seen it and was excited. Now if they did that it would have to be something revolutionary for NI. Appreciate that comment family and coming through! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
I love your unbiased reviews. With all the hype on this platform, you keep it real. I am in a hotel room in Rome, Italy right now, so I will probably upgrade when back home if the price is right. Appreciate you!
Now hold on a sec there Ken......traveling right now in Rome!!! DUDE.....that's is so cool. Man, be safe and enjoy if pleasure or even business off that matter, lol But I saw it and I knew that alot of people were going to be unhappy. And even with that being said, there are other things that need to be addressed but I guess we will get that in updates like Maschine 2. We will see. If you have 2, then the upgrade is only $29 just for software. Appreciate you as always for coming through and supporting and showing love! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Strategic move. The update brings stem separation at an affordable price to those that do not own this feature already. Makes Maschine 3 more usable to those without NI hardware. Not really much here for long time NI users, but, grabbing the update + Maschine Central is a fairly good value. NI needs to update version 3 more rapidly though, hopefully freely.
I guess you could calm it strategic but was it a good move though?!! Even though it's strategy it's 50/50 and with this market you don't have time to play around. Even in the community, they can make it break business. I'm a long time NI user and I was let down a little with the update. Should have been more and should have been something that would make you want to compare to others. There are some good things but also bad. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Hope it inspired and motivated you to be creative! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup That's the key thing. The next move is critical. NI waits too long to update its products. Maybe a better strategy would be to unify the best features into a single platform and focus more timely releases there.
Totally agree with you on that. I never understood the why they would release certain things late and then today I didn't even do a review for a new piano called Claire.......It hsd to be a better and honest way to not make the community know it's not about just money or etc.
I have to assume that because it works with the Maschine 2.18 that it should. It has it in the menu for active keyboards in the list of connected. As far as the features though only the MK3 does the Play Assist. Thats probably the only thing different. Hopefully this answers that. I gave up my MK2 to my son so I can test it out, smh lol Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Really hope it inspires and motivates you to be creative! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Alot of people are gonna change over really quick of things don't. I am a dedicated NI user for sure but still it's starting to need more help especially when it comes to how they push the products and support that community with requests. Thanks for the comment and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
I hear you family. Alot of peoole like the hardware feel of production anyway. Software can make you inspired but the hardware definitely is a classic feel of actually making the music. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Really hope it inspires and motivates you to be creative! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@ the fact is many of us have all the plugins and effects that they are including in things like Kontakt 8. They are simply not giving us anything new.
My maschine mk3 has been sitting in a corner for 2 years...update is not impressive considering the time they've had to come up with something groundbreaking....most of us have moved on ...i went mpc with cubase pro and haven't looked back....
I have been seeing a lot of this lately and people have only focused on the expansions for the sounds to use inside of the MPC. Funny thing is every community has its pros and cons and the companies should take need to what is being said from them to fix what we are asking for. We will see how that updates move for the Kontrol S-Series and how they update it with Maschine 3. Appreciate the comment and coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Hope it inspired and motivated you to be creative! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Oh yeah for sure brother. Now what is your take on the update to Maschine 3???? Do you think it is something that will propel Maschine to the next level or no?!? Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup I don't think it's next level just yet. I think it's good for the users of Maschine...hard core users have been upgraded for sure. Those of us that use as a plugin for drums..not as much. It's good, I love the update but not next level so to say.
@@Creative_Spasciz Definitely. Alot of people feel let down by this update and was looking for more. For sure. It's building but people won't see it like that in the long run. Only those dedicated to the cause, smh lol
Yeah that's the hope and prayer brother. It's crazy because I know they caught a couple of items that people wanted but I really feel like then mark was missed on this update. The best the could have done was do a free upgrade with an option for the expansion. Appreciate your input and love as always man! But I agree. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Appreciate that as always brother. So what are your thoughts on Maschine 3??? I don't like that black color or the background and wish I could change it. I liked the grey background. But besides that what's your take on it??? Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup Welp my friend, I am liking what I am seeing. the darker background doesn't bother me as much but I see what you'r coming from. Color variations would be nice. I see right off rip how this topic will catch on fire real quick because of some things people were waiting for is not in this update. This is a hot one to end the year with a bang for sure lol
Yeah the conversation topic of comparison to AKAI and etc will definitely be a good discussion. It I really need them to target a huge banger and make something that would be revolutionary for the company and community form NI. I know the hardware talk will come up with the S-Series and etc but they gotta pull it together for us man, smh lol 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
I think alot of people will just use the Maschine 2 software and just use another software to stem separate like Serato Sample (like I been doing from the jump)
This is a shit update and being i have mk2 hardware this doesn't apply to me either way. But this is why akai would actually be king. Shame on native instruments. Good video thesis 💪🏿🙏🏿
Yeah I know a lot of people are gonna feel some type of way about this update. On my Reddit the community is going off in tht comments so this doesn't surprise me. I feel bad because I feel the same about th update. After 15 years this is it???? They definitely dropped the ball on this one. Appreciate you as always family. Thank you for being honest! Hope all is well! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@@Thisninjascared I was listening to Bolo telling people to hold on and wait for this update. At the time I was pondering whether I should get the Maschine plus for $1300 and decided to get the MPC One Plus. I like most NI users know updates are rare for Maschine. Most NI products don’t play well together. I believe the MK3 users are wasting their time. There was nothing wrong with the hardware per-say. But NI is not in it the way that other major players are. Ableton is about that the hardware and software life. NI is about getting revenue and pumping out new software and now they just added subscription services which is bad news for everyone because you own nothing. MPC’s hold their value and appreciate while NI hardware is on EBay for cheaply prices. Akai products stand the test of time.
The best thing to do this year or you don't want to upgrade to Maschine 3 is wait until Cyber Season and rack up that way. Some people don't mind this update but for us users that are avid users we needed and expected more. But we will see where this goes. 💯💯💯
NI is the best when it comes to sounds and sound design for sure. The hardware department have a lot to work on and especially when the update and reveals take like 10 years or more. Definitely gotta step up their game. I'm gonna have to have a sit down with my guy and see if I can influence them or something lol 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯💯💯
Jay there is so much more when it comes to how this should have been updated. As far as calling it 3 it should have just been a a free update with an option to get Maschine Central at $29 - $49. Alot of people will probably keep Maschine 2 until they see more upgrades in the future because they have to for the S-Series since they have basic integration. Appreciate you and the input as always family. Great to see you still in the building! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@PULSEMusicGroup Yeah it doesn't feel like much, I saw it thought I don't need this, I'm still stuck to using it on 1 screen coz no floating windows, no mp3 export ect.. It doesn't feel like Maschine (3) at all
@@JayfkProductions876Right. They definitely need to separate the arrangement screen and the idea screens so you can have on multiple monitors. Not sure why that's so hard and yet so simple. But we will see. Gotta stay hopeful. 💯💯💯
Nope.......This is why I was asking the question like I did on the title! I was a beta tester and I saw it before hand and I wish it was more. I really do. But this might set back a couple of hits for the community. Especially with how everything is coming out. Appreciate you Unders. Would love to see your vid or take on this! It's gonna be an interesting one! Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel too! Hope all is well! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@ my take is minimal. I’m sad that my plus hasn’t had any love since 22 😂 I don’t use the software anymore, not since like 2014 really. It’s funny because I beta tested the original I still have the beta unit sat here from 07.
Yeah. Same here........Once I seen the beta test I was excited but then we got to the end of it with Maschine 3 and I knew the community was going to feel a certain type of way. I'm seeing it in the comments. They ove the price sure......but MORE was expected. Especially after all the releases this year from other companies. 💯💯💯
Ok so when we were beta testing for this there was A LOT of things that the testers were adding and going through with this like how to change up and scale this, midi modifications, latency configs, different color schemes etc. Some of those issues were met but others were not. I'm not sure if the updates (which there will be) will have these modifications in them to better than the current user experience or if there is another tactic in which NI is in development for. So many questions unanswered but I'm still hopeful.
Just imagine if after digital tablets came out, and artists started using them to do their artwork, someone decided "we need to cancel out paint brushes".. and after VSTs "cancel and remove guitars, and pianos".. they did not cancel drum kits after drum machines and samplers came out.. BUT live drummers felt the heat. There was a fat elephant in the room called COMPETITION. and real drummers were not as needed as before. When NI canceled out usage of 32 BIt stuff, its like they snatched paint brushes out my paint studio, and was dictating what colors i could use.. they've done this sh!t before.. like Apple, it's done to help sales.. or REsales.. to get us to REbuy things we already have (in some supposed new and improved form).. we don't get to keep using our favorite creative ingredients.. What if the creative dictators were like trump controlling what a woman can do with her body.. and they went around snatching up turn tables, and vintage guitars.. saying stick to the NEW.. and MPC addicts had their old MPCs wrestled away from them.. because these manufacturers needed to sell new versions of what WE ALREADY HAVE.. you feel me.. would eliminating our choice be acceptable??? it's sales driven. NI puts out an upgrade of their software, that needs to be PAID for and then SURPRISE, other things start getting canceled out 😂🤣 "Pimping ain't easy" but they keep doing it.. it's sales driven. if they just put out their product and STILL left us with a choice, i would believe differently.. but i have a closet full of old fazed out gear.. the Mk1, Mk2 and Mikkro 1 are in that closet.. I've paid for a ton of NI "Upgrades" (Maschine software and hardware, interfaces, controllers, Kontakt, Massive, tons of Expansions).. It use to be the cheaper option, but this virtual stuff cost as much as the hardware its replicating now. sh!t is getting expensive bruh.. we ain't all rich over here.. just passionately addicted to being creativ
I love how descriptive you were about your situation with NI. It's things like this that should constitute change and I think it does in some way. But this was a serious let down for that community especially those who expectations was far more for Maschine. We will see how that updates roll out and how much change will come. There is hope but when and where??? Appreciate the comment and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Hope it inspires and motivates you to be creative! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup Yeah bruh, i stay inspired. But i wish we could do our creative things without having to have a relationship with all these middle people (like Microsoft). it's distracting. Like i just got my Laptop back up, after having it beatdown by a Windows update assault Lol. I'm shocked that this NI paid for update only (only.??) cost $29. Maschine 2 was rolled out with a $99 price tag. i'll chill, and see if its buggy, or glitchy before i get down with that. By Thanksgiving they'll probably have a sale price on that ($15).. i'm tired of having to go in the lab and learn something different to do the same ol' thing.. But if you don't go forward.. you get left behind. i will say, what they did to make Perform FX better, making the automation process way easier, was a get high for me.. But too much of the other stuff falling off the back of the truck ain't really new.. a lot of the time NI is just playing catch up to other folks developments.. Anyway sir.. thanks for the feedback.. stay on time with your grind Peace
Definitely. This price is probably becaunthey realize that alot of people would be happy with this and that it should only be that price point. It's not a bad one but for this to be Maschine 3 we needed more and the competition of these companies are going their thing. NI kinda let us down on this one. And like I said I am a huge NI user. Still love them but this should have had more. Glad you got you laptop up and running too. I know how that can be when you down and can't create. We will see how Cyber Season treats is this year! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Not sure I'll get the upgrade. I'm eagerly anticipating the next gen hardware update...whenever that happens. I'd love to see a powerhouse unit with lots of RAM and fast processors.
That would be super dope and to be honest I would love to see that. The great thing is that there is hope but we hopefully dont have to wait until the next 11- 15 years for a result. And I love NI for sure but I have to be honest and real with the community......it could have been better. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Hey family. All the features that inwemt over on the vid are all of the features that they have "upgraded" too. It's probably better to use this as a VST and route your midi that way if it's better for your workflow. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Hope it inspires and motivates you to be creative! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@@geebee44Update: Yes I just saw that you and internally midi route in Maschine 3 now. It's not something that info but I wanted to confirm and just let you know. 💯💯💯
29 bucks, it can do more plus a great company behind it! Why not, I left native for a few years. Now I don't want to be daw dependent. I can replace the fl vst with machine. Sounds good to me, that way I don't have to recreate the wheel.
From this aspect and perspective this is a valid point. Unfortunately, it's in the status of those that use it in a DAW and not a standalone and are liking for other options. For the most part I believe like others that there will be updates and it will get better over time. So we just have to wait and see. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Hope it inspires and motivates you to be creative! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Its alot of traffic on the page right now but that link is still active and good. Appreciate you coming thyand supporting! Let me know if you still having issues and I will resend the link! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
I think Maschine 4 is around the corner. The basic integration for the new S Series tells the whole story. Think about it, they released Machine 3 software but there's no hardware to fully use it's full capabilities with. Why? Imagine Windows 11 without a PC .🤷🏾♂
Well.......on the website they stated that no MK4 was for seen in tht near future. So with that being said ink ow that they are focusing on the flagship hardware of the S-Series now but there definitely has to be something that will be revolutionary for them hardware wise. It's been years now. They are adding updates as it comes but this was supposed to be something that could go against AKAI (In my opinion) Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Plugin delays is really annoying on Maschine, but they told me they dont have it in roadmap (in 2022). If they did delay compensation is it game changer, cause it is only annoying aspect of working on MK3.
That's interstate family. I never had a latency issue with Maschine. And that is primarily because I use it as a VST in Cubase and it moves smoothly. But that is an interesting question though. What type of sound card do you use when using Maschine??? Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@ Apollo Solo. I use Maschine 2 stand alone with MK3. Try stand alone Maschine 2 and Soothe. It is delays just own track, not all the project as with delay compensation in ither DAWs.
So that means you solely only use Maschine for your production and not as an intergraded part with a DAW? I have experienced the plugin issues and the multiple placements of alot all in one. I would just bounce out the wav file and put it on another channel and then add more plugins that way depending on your way you produce your music. 💯💯💯
No like most Native instruments products they don't manage to show Me they sound better orngive something Reason doesn't already. However Reason don't do step separation and I am not happy about that.
This upgrade left a really bad taste in some of the community mouth but it's crazy because my poll on the community went from bad to some what ok. The community is half and half about it. I'm still gonna use Maschine 2 until all the bugs are worked out. Appreciate you as always family and greatful you had a moment to comment. Reason dosnt have Stem Separation??? Didn't know that! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@PULSEMusicGroup I need to check what I post, dam typos man, they creap up on Me, I said step separation lol. I think Native instruments is suffering frommthe same problem as Reason Studios, they haave spread them selfs to thin trying to offer to much stuff and now not really mastering or fully satisfying everything they offer. Brands who have less things to focus on tend to do better, but We all know why brands make as many products as they can to apeal to the widest demographic. They focus on trying to apeal to the widest amount of potential new customers then serving the users they already have, long time users feel like there being shxx on basically.
Alot of stuff happened all at once huh lol. I know for Maschine 3 update.......there will be more to come like it was on Maschine 2 so I will look at this as growth for the flagship S-Series and more to come. But this was not like a grand reveal for Maschine 3. Appreciate you family coming through and checking out the vid and the channel and dropping a comment! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Also Cubase needs to fix the Cubase 13 bugs before they released 14. It has a Ableton feel now which I guess is ok but I'm still on my older version. 💯💯💯
@@ET2carbon I think that it should be fine as far as the MK2. The only difference is the screen and the way you use it from the MK2 to MK3. I gave my son the MK2 so I wish I could test it out, lol 💯💯💯
So what are you guys thoughts on this? Do you think this was an awesome update or do you think that they should have revamped even more???
I must admit even though I own a Machine Mikro MK3 I never use it so I cant really pass judgement. I can only say objectively that it looks like a light update.
Talking of groove boxes do you have any, other than Maschine? You should check out the underrated Roland MC-101 if you haven't used one.
Hey Reece, you are right. This is a light update and nothing revolutionary that would bang out the competition. As far as other grooveboxes, I had a old school Boss DR550 that started me off with music. Man I LOVED that thing! Classic! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Wish NI would bring back the JAM controller.
@@unrealone1 That would be dope especially because I didn't get a chance to experience it but I have seen it and was excited. Now if they did that it would have to be something revolutionary for NI. Appreciate that comment family and coming through! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Do you think as a non-Maschine user, buying this could be of any advantages using as plugin in DAW?
I love your unbiased reviews. With all the hype on this platform, you keep it real. I am in a hotel room in Rome, Italy right now, so I will probably upgrade when back home if the price is right. Appreciate you!
Now hold on a sec there Ken......traveling right now in Rome!!! DUDE.....that's is so cool. Man, be safe and enjoy if pleasure or even business off that matter, lol But I saw it and I knew that alot of people were going to be unhappy. And even with that being said, there are other things that need to be addressed but I guess we will get that in updates like Maschine 2. We will see. If you have 2, then the upgrade is only $29 just for software. Appreciate you as always for coming through and supporting and showing love! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Strategic move. The update brings stem separation at an affordable price to those that do not own this feature already. Makes Maschine 3 more usable to those without NI hardware. Not really much here for long time NI users, but, grabbing the update + Maschine Central is a fairly good value. NI needs to update version 3 more rapidly though, hopefully freely.
I guess you could calm it strategic but was it a good move though?!! Even though it's strategy it's 50/50 and with this market you don't have time to play around. Even in the community, they can make it break business. I'm a long time NI user and I was let down a little with the update. Should have been more and should have been something that would make you want to compare to others. There are some good things but also bad. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Hope it inspired and motivated you to be creative! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup That's the key thing. The next move is critical. NI waits too long to update its products. Maybe a better strategy would be to unify the best features into a single platform and focus more timely releases there.
Totally agree with you on that. I never understood the why they would release certain things late and then today I didn't even do a review for a new piano called Claire.......It hsd to be a better and honest way to not make the community know it's not about just money or etc.
Dose the software work with the MK2 Keyboard?
I have to assume that because it works with the Maschine 2.18 that it should. It has it in the menu for active keyboards in the list of connected. As far as the features though only the MK3 does the Play Assist. Thats probably the only thing different. Hopefully this answers that. I gave up my MK2 to my son so I can test it out, smh lol Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Really hope it inspires and motivates you to be creative! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
I gave up on NI along time ago. I got an MPC One Plus and kept it moving.
If only the idiots still chanting," its gonna get better.just wait", would think like you and stop being morons.
Alot of people are gonna change over really quick of things don't. I am a dedicated NI user for sure but still it's starting to need more help especially when it comes to how they push the products and support that community with requests. Thanks for the comment and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
I hear you family. Alot of peoole like the hardware feel of production anyway. Software can make you inspired but the hardware definitely is a classic feel of actually making the music. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Really hope it inspires and motivates you to be creative! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@ the fact is many of us have all the plugins and effects that they are including in things like Kontakt 8. They are simply not giving us anything new.
I have the mpc x se but keeping my maschine for for a change up
My maschine mk3 has been sitting in a corner for 2 years...update is not impressive considering the time they've had to come up with something groundbreaking....most of us have moved on ...i went mpc with cubase pro and haven't looked back....
I have been seeing a lot of this lately and people have only focused on the expansions for the sounds to use inside of the MPC. Funny thing is every community has its pros and cons and the companies should take need to what is being said from them to fix what we are asking for. We will see how that updates move for the Kontrol S-Series and how they update it with Maschine 3. Appreciate the comment and coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Hope it inspired and motivated you to be creative! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
My dude!! You know we here!!
Oh yeah for sure brother. Now what is your take on the update to Maschine 3???? Do you think it is something that will propel Maschine to the next level or no?!? Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup I don't think it's next level just yet. I think it's good for the users of Maschine...hard core users have been upgraded for sure. Those of us that use as a plugin for drums..not as much. It's good, I love the update but not next level so to say.
@@Creative_Spasciz Definitely. Alot of people feel let down by this update and was looking for more. For sure. It's building but people won't see it like that in the long run. Only those dedicated to the cause, smh lol
Not feeling this update. Who knows maybe the later versions they will listen to theit customer base
Yeah that's the hope and prayer brother. It's crazy because I know they caught a couple of items that people wanted but I really feel like then mark was missed on this update. The best the could have done was do a free upgrade with an option for the expansion. Appreciate your input and love as always man! But I agree. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Its always wait till tge future with this company. Maschine users waited 11 years for this horse shit.
It really sucks to see that alot of us were so disappointed with this update that I knew it before ahead of time and couldn't say anything. 💯💯💯
dope bro.
Appreciate that as always brother. So what are your thoughts on Maschine 3??? I don't like that black color or the background and wish I could change it. I liked the grey background. But besides that what's your take on it??? Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup Welp my friend, I am liking what I am seeing. the darker background doesn't bother me as much but I see what you'r coming from. Color variations would be nice. I see right off rip how this topic will catch on fire real quick because of some things people were waiting for is not in this update. This is a hot one to end the year with a bang for sure lol
Yeah the conversation topic of comparison to AKAI and etc will definitely be a good discussion. It I really need them to target a huge banger and make something that would be revolutionary for the company and community form NI. I know the hardware talk will come up with the S-Series and etc but they gotta pull it together for us man, smh lol 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
I think alot of people will just use the Maschine 2 software and just use another software to stem separate like Serato Sample (like I been doing from the jump)
This is a shit update and being i have mk2 hardware this doesn't apply to me either way. But this is why akai would actually be king. Shame on native instruments. Good video thesis 💪🏿🙏🏿
Yeah I know a lot of people are gonna feel some type of way about this update. On my Reddit the community is going off in tht comments so this doesn't surprise me. I feel bad because I feel the same about th update. After 15 years this is it???? They definitely dropped the ball on this one. Appreciate you as always family. Thank you for being honest! Hope all is well! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@@Thisninjascared I was listening to Bolo telling people to hold on and wait for this update. At the time I was pondering whether I should get the Maschine plus for $1300 and decided to get the MPC One Plus. I like most NI users know updates are rare for Maschine. Most NI products don’t play well together. I believe the MK3 users are wasting their time. There was nothing wrong with the hardware per-say. But NI is not in it the way that other major players are. Ableton is about that the hardware and software life. NI is about getting revenue and pumping out new software and now they just added subscription services which is bad news for everyone because you own nothing. MPC’s hold their value and appreciate while NI hardware is on EBay for cheaply prices. Akai products stand the test of time.
@@theopinions47 yes you are correct. Akai is definitely dope and is really the best when it comes to this. NI really dropped the ball on this one.
The best thing to do this year or you don't want to upgrade to Maschine 3 is wait until Cyber Season and rack up that way. Some people don't mind this update but for us users that are avid users we needed and expected more. But we will see where this goes. 💯💯💯
NI is the best when it comes to sounds and sound design for sure. The hardware department have a lot to work on and especially when the update and reveals take like 10 years or more. Definitely gotta step up their game. I'm gonna have to have a sit down with my guy and see if I can influence them or something lol 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯💯💯
Underwhelmed, left thinking is this it? Where's the floating windows, where's the mp3 export, wish we got customizable per pad note repeat
Jay there is so much more when it comes to how this should have been updated. As far as calling it 3 it should have just been a a free update with an option to get Maschine Central at $29 - $49. Alot of people will probably keep Maschine 2 until they see more upgrades in the future because they have to for the S-Series since they have basic integration. Appreciate you and the input as always family. Great to see you still in the building! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@PULSEMusicGroup Yeah it doesn't feel like much, I saw it thought I don't need this, I'm still stuck to using it on 1 screen coz no floating windows, no mp3 export ect.. It doesn't feel like Maschine (3) at all
@@JayfkProductions876Right. They definitely need to separate the arrangement screen and the idea screens so you can have on multiple monitors. Not sure why that's so hard and yet so simple. But we will see. Gotta stay hopeful. 💯💯💯
No plus update at all 👀
Nope.......This is why I was asking the question like I did on the title! I was a beta tester and I saw it before hand and I wish it was more. I really do. But this might set back a couple of hits for the community. Especially with how everything is coming out. Appreciate you Unders. Would love to see your vid or take on this! It's gonna be an interesting one! Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel too! Hope all is well! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@ my take is minimal. I’m sad that my plus hasn’t had any love since 22 😂 I don’t use the software anymore, not since like 2014 really. It’s funny because I beta tested the original I still have the beta unit sat here from 07.
Yeah. Same here........Once I seen the beta test I was excited but then we got to the end of it with Maschine 3 and I knew the community was going to feel a certain type of way. I'm seeing it in the comments. They ove the price sure......but MORE was expected. Especially after all the releases this year from other companies. 💯💯💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup can you add context to about what more was expected
Ok so when we were beta testing for this there was A LOT of things that the testers were adding and going through with this like how to change up and scale this, midi modifications, latency configs, different color schemes etc. Some of those issues were met but others were not. I'm not sure if the updates (which there will be) will have these modifications in them to better than the current user experience or if there is another tactic in which NI is in development for. So many questions unanswered but I'm still hopeful.
Just imagine if after digital tablets came out, and artists started using them to do their artwork, someone decided "we need to cancel out paint brushes".. and after VSTs "cancel and remove guitars, and pianos".. they did not cancel drum kits after drum machines and samplers came out.. BUT live drummers felt the heat. There was a fat elephant in the room called COMPETITION. and real drummers were not as needed as before. When NI canceled out usage of 32 BIt stuff, its like they snatched paint brushes out my paint studio, and was dictating what colors i could use.. they've done this sh!t before.. like Apple, it's done to help sales.. or REsales.. to get us to REbuy things we already have (in some supposed new and improved form).. we don't get to keep using our favorite creative ingredients.. What if the creative dictators were like trump controlling what a woman can do with her body.. and they went around snatching up turn tables, and vintage guitars.. saying stick to the NEW.. and MPC addicts had their old MPCs wrestled away from them.. because these manufacturers needed to sell new versions of what WE ALREADY HAVE.. you feel me.. would eliminating our choice be acceptable??? it's sales driven. NI puts out an upgrade of their software, that needs to be PAID for and then SURPRISE, other things start getting canceled out 😂🤣 "Pimping ain't easy" but they keep doing it.. it's sales driven. if they just put out their product and STILL left us with a choice, i would believe differently.. but i have a closet full of old fazed out gear.. the Mk1, Mk2 and Mikkro 1 are in that closet.. I've paid for a ton of NI "Upgrades" (Maschine software and hardware, interfaces, controllers, Kontakt, Massive, tons of Expansions).. It use to be the cheaper option, but this virtual stuff cost as much as the hardware its replicating now. sh!t is getting expensive bruh.. we ain't all rich over here.. just passionately addicted to being creativ
I love how descriptive you were about your situation with NI. It's things like this that should constitute change and I think it does in some way. But this was a serious let down for that community especially those who expectations was far more for Maschine. We will see how that updates roll out and how much change will come. There is hope but when and where??? Appreciate the comment and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Hope it inspires and motivates you to be creative! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup Yeah bruh, i stay inspired. But i wish we could do our creative things without having to have a relationship with all these middle people (like Microsoft). it's distracting. Like i just got my Laptop back up, after having it beatdown by a Windows update assault Lol. I'm shocked that this NI paid for update only (only.??) cost $29. Maschine 2 was rolled out with a $99 price tag. i'll chill, and see if its buggy, or glitchy before i get down with that. By Thanksgiving they'll probably have a sale price on that ($15).. i'm tired of having to go in the lab and learn something different to do the same ol' thing.. But if you don't go forward.. you get left behind. i will say, what they did to make Perform FX better, making the automation process way easier, was a get high for me.. But too much of the other stuff falling off the back of the truck ain't really new.. a lot of the time NI is just playing catch up to other folks developments.. Anyway sir.. thanks for the feedback.. stay on time with your grind Peace
Definitely. This price is probably becaunthey realize that alot of people would be happy with this and that it should only be that price point. It's not a bad one but for this to be Maschine 3 we needed more and the competition of these companies are going their thing. NI kinda let us down on this one. And like I said I am a huge NI user. Still love them but this should have had more. Glad you got you laptop up and running too. I know how that can be when you down and can't create. We will see how Cyber Season treats is this year! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Not sure I'll get the upgrade. I'm eagerly anticipating the next gen hardware update...whenever that happens. I'd love to see a powerhouse unit with lots of RAM and fast processors.
That would be super dope and to be honest I would love to see that. The great thing is that there is hope but we hopefully dont have to wait until the next 11- 15 years for a result. And I love NI for sure but I have to be honest and real with the community......it could have been better. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
internal midi routing?
Hey family. All the features that inwemt over on the vid are all of the features that they have "upgraded" too. It's probably better to use this as a VST and route your midi that way if it's better for your workflow. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Hope it inspires and motivates you to be creative! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup no doubt… it’s feature that for so e odd reason NI (and Reason) refuses to adopt.
@@geebee44Update: Yes I just saw that you and internally midi route in Maschine 3 now. It's not something that info but I wanted to confirm and just let you know. 💯💯💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup preciate it.
29 bucks, it can do more plus a great company behind it! Why not, I left native for a few years. Now I don't want to be daw dependent. I can replace the fl vst with machine. Sounds good to me, that way I don't have to recreate the wheel.
From this aspect and perspective this is a valid point. Unfortunately, it's in the status of those that use it in a DAW and not a standalone and are liking for other options. For the most part I believe like others that there will be updates and it will get better over time. So we just have to wait and see. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Hope it inspires and motivates you to be creative! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
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Its alot of traffic on the page right now but that link is still active and good. Appreciate you coming thyand supporting! Let me know if you still having issues and I will resend the link! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
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I think Maschine 4 is around the corner. The basic integration for the new S Series tells the whole story. Think about it, they released Machine 3 software but there's no hardware to fully use it's full capabilities with. Why? Imagine Windows 11 without a PC .🤷🏾♂
Well.......on the website they stated that no MK4 was for seen in tht near future. So with that being said ink ow that they are focusing on the flagship hardware of the S-Series now but there definitely has to be something that will be revolutionary for them hardware wise. It's been years now. They are adding updates as it comes but this was supposed to be something that could go against AKAI (In my opinion) Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Did they latency compensation? Lol
Plugin delays is really annoying on Maschine, but they told me they dont have it in roadmap (in 2022). If they did delay compensation is it game changer, cause it is only annoying aspect of working on MK3.
That's interstate family. I never had a latency issue with Maschine. And that is primarily because I use it as a VST in Cubase and it moves smoothly. But that is an interesting question though. What type of sound card do you use when using Maschine??? Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@ Apollo Solo. I use Maschine 2 stand alone with MK3. Try stand alone Maschine 2 and Soothe. It is delays just own track, not all the project as with delay compensation in ither DAWs.
So that means you solely only use Maschine for your production and not as an intergraded part with a DAW? I have experienced the plugin issues and the multiple placements of alot all in one. I would just bounce out the wav file and put it on another channel and then add more plugins that way depending on your way you produce your music. 💯💯💯
@ I like to mix all the project just like in big daw. And play it live.
No like most Native instruments products they don't manage to show Me they sound better orngive something Reason doesn't already. However Reason don't do step separation and I am not happy about that.
This upgrade left a really bad taste in some of the community mouth but it's crazy because my poll on the community went from bad to some what ok. The community is half and half about it. I'm still gonna use Maschine 2 until all the bugs are worked out. Appreciate you as always family and greatful you had a moment to comment. Reason dosnt have Stem Separation??? Didn't know that! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@PULSEMusicGroup I need to check what I post, dam typos man, they creap up on Me, I said step separation lol. I think Native instruments is suffering frommthe same problem as Reason Studios, they haave spread them selfs to thin trying to offer to much stuff and now not really mastering or fully satisfying everything they offer. Brands who have less things to focus on tend to do better, but We all know why brands make as many products as they can to apeal to the widest demographic. They focus on trying to apeal to the widest amount of potential new customers then serving the users they already have, long time users feel like there being shxx on basically.
First Trump wins then Cubase 14 releases at 8am EST then 10PM EST Maschine 3 releases?!!!! Yoooo
Alot of stuff happened all at once huh lol. I know for Maschine 3 update.......there will be more to come like it was on Maschine 2 so I will look at this as growth for the flagship S-Series and more to come. But this was not like a grand reveal for Maschine 3. Appreciate you family coming through and checking out the vid and the channel and dropping a comment! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Also Cubase needs to fix the Cubase 13 bugs before they released 14. It has a Ableton feel now which I guess is ok but I'm still on my older version. 💯💯💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup thank you for the thoughtful response God bless!!!!
@@PULSEMusicGroup I'm wondering about Kontakt MK2 boards working with the new update they only mention mk3
@@ET2carbon I think that it should be fine as far as the MK2. The only difference is the screen and the way you use it from the MK2 to MK3. I gave my son the MK2 so I wish I could test it out, lol 💯💯💯