Rylanor's Last Stand - Original Song - ft. George Hoctor & Cpl. Corgi
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Man George Hoctor has got some vocals would love to see him on more songs!
MORE! GIB MORE!!
I would love to see the full art of the techpriestess you have as your icon
@@nooneatall3279 ;o
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Saul tarvitz next
This is the most badass discord call ever
indeed
@Commissar Cain I can totally see Fulgrim being a Discord admin
Covid's been fuckin' everyone over so bad even Nurgle is forcing his followers to wear masks and socially distance.
Fulgrim:LOLOLOL LOSER NERD
The Ancient Of Rites, Rylanor The Unyielding: Ult Ready.
Fulgrim:WHAT
Vistario:WHAT
Thousands Sons Sorcerer: WHAT
It is now my headcanon that the mechanicus simply integrated Discord into the visors and neural links of space marine armor
Rylanor: "I REJECT YOU NOW AND FOR ALWAYS!"
The emperor sitting on the golden throne: "That's my boy!"
My headcanon is the emperor saved Rylanor's soul and had him reborn in the legion of the damned. I pray that becomes real canon
@@phantomwraith1984 If it did it would be cool to have Fulgrim face Rylanor again, it would be an epic rematch
@@phantomwraith1984 It would be so beautiful if Legion of the dead Rylanor stalked Fulgrim each time he stepped into the galaxy, rejecting him time and time again, always there to ruin his genefather plans, thats my personal headcanon
Head canon is that Rylanor, is the only Legionaire who still has his original chapter heraldry visible, with the addition of the Holy flames of deamon purging granted by the Emperor.
Upon that day, a single golden tear ran down the emperor's corpse like cheek.
Every time you replay this video, Fulgrim dies a little bit more.
Keep replaying this video.
*MASHES THE REPEAT BUTTON WITH THE ENTHUSIASM OF AN INQUISITOR WHEN FACED WITH THE EXTERMINATUS BUTTON*
@@Schinak me too
Well, I’ve been doing quite a bit of damage in that case, considering I’ve also been singing some of the most awesome lines along with him.
I've watched this at least 300 times
@@Schinak did you properly use your head?
Rylanor: are the thousand sons still loyal to the emperor?
Vistario: ...yeaaaah mhm sure are
Rylanor: Don't fucking lie to me
Well, it makes sense. The thousand sons aren’t exactly worshippers of chaos, many are still loyal to the emperor, but they were just deemed as heretics and had nowhere else to go but chaos.
Fulgrim : ( FALLS TO CHAOS )
RYLANOR : " and I took that personally "
Rylanor then bombs the shit out of his dad after saying something about his mother.
@@solaireofsomewhere4706 those who may be still loyal or not are lost to ages becaming ash golems.
It was the emperor who wasn t loyal to them, tbh.
@@lvo9197 More like it was Horus that wasn't loyal to them.
And remember kids, while Chaos may give you eldritch power, only the Emperor gives you the power of the Righteous Burns
I mean slaanesh and Nurgle can give you a kinda burn
@@iamfins3277 you may have a (rather sickening) point, but he did specificly say "Righteous".
Side burns yes? A speciality of the praetorian guard
@@iamfins3277 Well, there is a difference between the cleasing flame of the Emperor and the putrid debauched effect of the chaos gods, my soon to be purged friend
Holiest burn since Prospero
"Haha Rylanor you're just a corpse in a suit of metal"
"Well haha Fulgrim I have a virus bomb"
I laughed way to much because of this
This gives such quiet kid with a glock in his backpack energy and I love it
@@deeperestmeme479 every quiet kid gangsta till a Lamenter blocks the bullet.
Another good comeback for Rylanor: "Big talk for someone in Virus Bomb range."
*Rylanor* : Hey, Hey, Fulgrim. Look at me
*Fulgrim* : Yesss, old one of mine?
(shows a virus bomb)
*Rylanor* : B I T C H
I love the initial dialogue between fulgrim and Rylanor. It's literally
Fulgrim: look how old you've become
Rylanor: something far worse has happened to you
didn't expect a sequel quote here
r/sequelmemes
There's a r/jedicoucilofelrond now we need a r/jedicouncilofTerra or something
And then he pulls the virus bomb out and the plot twist + burn is so great the sorceror is contractually obligated as a follower of Tzeentch to shout "oh snap" after the reveal.
And then it proceeds to
Fulgrim: Why don't you have anything to say to me?
Rylanor: Because I'm holding a VIRUS BOMB
*"This place was Isstvan III!"*
That line perfectly conveys the sudden, horrified realization as it hits. We are standing in a planetwide cemetery, and speaking to one of the only beings remaining who saw it when it was still alive.
And is probably extremely pissed.
@@NameName2.0 "Probably?"
@@tomskowski6239 because he knew that magus basically sent him and his squad to their death aware about the planet forgotten dark past
@@NameName2.0dude chadrylanor saw all his loyalist brothers get smoked in a chaos blunt.
Keyword *Was*
Rylanor is the embodiment of the phrase “even in death i still serve”
A duty honourably discharged
He’s more to stubborn to die since he stubbornly waited 10,000 years to get back at fulgrm
@@inquisitorthomasdefinitely536 true
@@inquisitorthomasdefinitely536 true, but he did it in a Dreadnought, which is essentially a mech built around life support systems to keep fatally wounded marines alive
So in a way, Rylanor was “dead” the entire time
@@Natedawg1998 Not really, the story points out that the amniotic fluid was rancid and probably slowly poisoning Rylanor. In fact after 10k years most of the life support systems would have either ran out of power or been polluted. Rylanor survived 10k years out of pure spite
This story will not be told. No Imperial scholar will pass on the tale of Rylanor's final act. History, if it remembers him at all, will remember him as an Emperor's Child who died at the beginning of the Great Heresy, a victim of one of the greatest massacres in the history of the galaxy. Even fewer will know of Vistario, the heretic who chose redemption at the very end of his wretched life.
But the one who _needs_ to know will remember. He, in his deepest and most private moments, will *never* forget the son that rejected him at the greatest heights of his glory. Let that be enough.
Bloody Hell, Dude. That was beautiful.
I love that you gave mention to Vistario's redemption.
@@randomcenturion7264 Thank you. Just something I scrabbled together while in the daze of my first listen to this song.
In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, sometimes you have to be content with the small victories from forgotten heroes.
You should join the black library...
No matter if your act is remembered, or if you feel as though you have done enough... The only thing that matters is that you were the one who acted.
Rylanor is no heretic, he remained loyal to his dying breath and gave Fulgrim the Ultimate middle finger that will last him for all eternity.
"Rylenor deserves better than you, oh Primarch! Rylanor deserves better than all of us!"
Truest words ever spoken
imagine being so loyal you make a traitor say fuck you to every traitor and even the traitor primarchs and accepting death
@@warantew993 That is the only kind of light that has any power in the grimdarkness of 40K
@@TheWarmachine375 more like defiance and absolute human will cause there are plenty of choas cultists with 100 percent loyalty not among tzeentch but still
Wait ...
Wait...
So this means if Magnus decide so Thousand sons can be redeemed?
They still hate chaos but “no other option”?
I know that Alpha Legion is technically the agent of the Emperor on chaos side, but if TS is also able to think loyally and respect values of being loyal.
Am i wrong?
@@tr3siqus3 no your right at the first chance magnus thinks they have a another feasbile option theyd betray tzeentch in a heartbeat its just youd have to convince magnus there is another way as after everything that happend hes lost all hope of another option
I love how Fulgrim's whole plan is to try and counter what Rylanor would say. He wanted to fuel and flatter his own ego. Rylanor then just says "Fuck you bitch" and throws a virus bomb at him. No monologue or grand statement about betraying the Emperor. Rylanor was humble, and just got right to the point, and Fulgrim genuinely can't comprehend it.
Honestly while Fulgrims plan i can agree with you, i just dont think Fulgrim is so far gone that he cant understand Determination and Faith (well faith in the sense you believe in what you have to do not religious stuff), hell he fought Dorn of all Primarchs ofc you'd understand that the values and honor Rylanor presents.
What he doesnt understand however is himself, Fulgrim and his legion always sought perfection and the Daemon Primarch now think Chaos was the answer to perfection, but by embracing that idea of "perfection" he just doesnt see the point in the idea that always seeking perfection (what the Legion stood for) rather than being "perfect" is where the real value lies in.
Both judges the other as clearly unfit, Fulgrim thinks he should help his old companion into the fold where his perfection lies, and Rylanor just wishes to end the abomination that became of his Primarch as he betrayed what he stood for.
Rylanor waited for litteral millenia, you bet he wasnt gonna wait even LONGER now that Fulgrim was finally here.
That also means that his resulting speech was improvised. It wasn’t planned at all, and it managed to convince three Thousand Sons to turn on Fulgrim. It shows how pure his determination was and how low Fulgrim fell
Rylanor was always an absolute badass, the full scene is WELL worth a read if you love this rendition of it as well.
'Never! All we have left between us is that we will die together!' roared the Dreadnought, the upper portion of his carapace burning with blue flames. 'I am Rylanor of the Emperor's Children, Ancient of Rites, Venerable of the Palatine Host, and proud servant of the Emperor of Mankind, Beloved by all! I reject you now and always!'
There's also a theory that fulgrim knew where rylanor was the whole time, he was just waiting for an audience
Rylanor is true to the name of his legion. He didn't turned traitor, he didn't betrayed his brothers, he didn't turned his back to the Imperium.
He is truly one of the Emperor's Children.
Stop, I can only cry so much 😭
@@solanum667 bro, same.
Every Time I read this comment section since this morning.
Hello friend
Well it seems to be a pattern, that space marines are a better representation of Legions principles than the Primarchs that lead said Legions . With Fulgrim it's Rilanor, with Ferrus it's Meduson, with Perturabo it's Dantioh, with Magnus it's Arvida, with Mortarion it's Garro and so on.
EXACTLY
Fulgrim was the only Primarch who never fought on his home planet: he was so convincing that he never needed to, and he was so damn charming the *Emperor* was impressed enough to give him the right to bear the Emperor's own marks.
And yet, here, not only did he fail to convince one of his own even with his full Chaos powered charisma, but another Traitor Legion would rather see everyone there *die* then let Fulgrim win. The man who once charmed someone akin to a god was rejected so hard that he reedemed a traitor.
THAT is why his pride will never recover from this.
Tzeentch woudl have a field day in Chaos god chat rubbing it in
Tzeentch: why do you think my pawns are there? why do you think they sacrificed themselves? All is JUST AS PLANNED.
Agree, the Ancient of Rites willpower was so powerful that he denied not only his gene-sire that all Space Marines have an inherent loyalty to, but one powered by the most insidious Chaos God, and still he remained loyal.
Maybe, just maybe, being a filthy, heretical traitor doesn't do good for your valuable skills.
"What has happened to Fulgrim?" What i was thinking while listening to this and browsing pictures of Fulgrim. How can a Primarch fell so low? How can someone justify any of this, in any way or regard, his acts, his form, his twisted mindset? I think the only one matching this depth for me is Angron, maybe Mortarion. Great writting. Fulgrim is total abomination.
Ultimate vibe check: say what you have endured so long to say
Rylanor: i have no words, only B O M B
I read this in the rhythim of that part and it really works lmao
Yes
Fulgrim: You've thought for a long time. Surely you must have some long winded and impassioned speech about your hatred for me.
Rylanor: Fuck you.
@@artttard This just in, Rylanor could double as a passable ANGER MARINE.
@Commissar Cain This comment inspired me harder than Rylanor inspired that Thousand Son.
/watch?v=TeXcWuX2Dbw
"There really are a few chads in 40k lore."
*Discovers Rylanor*
"Your crown my king."
*Thousand sons after hearing rylanors speech*
“Hey,you dropped this”
Lotara Sarin: I’ll be taking that crown
"There are no good guys in 40k"
*Discovers Rylanor*
"Your crown my king"
@@karamanid *ahem* vulkan/salamanders
@@bazelgeese1283 the Lamenters
"I am one of the Emperor's Children! I am Rylanor and I am the Ancient of Rites!"
On Terra the Emperor sheds a single tear, knowing now that the last of his loyal sons from the Emperor's Children now joins him at his side.
*legion of the damned* "Yes. Yes. YEESSSSSSSS."
Why the warp does everyone know so much about me???
@@the_emperor_of_mankind it's Malcador's fault, take it up with him
@@the_emperor_of_mankind wait, what are you doing browsing youtube?! Shouldn't you be powering they pyhic lighthouse or something?
@@neversaydiegaming4868 i found a slightly More efficient way to do that, so now i have about 15 seconds per Day to surf the astral network.
When I first heard about the story I thought "Did the traitor marine seriously not recognise the Istvaan system?" Then I remembered the Thousand Sons had nothing to do with it.
Also Rylanor didn't wait a million nights. It was millions.
Yeah a million nights is only around about 3.2k years
@@nikoclesceri2267, just a year for the Marines
@@Butter_Warrior99 Most marines only live 1-1.5k years. Moreover, being in a dreadnought is uncomfortable, painful, and maddening over time. Even Bjorn, a 10k year old dreadnought, has to be put into slumber in order for him to not lose his sanity. It is a testament to Rylanor's strength that he survived and kept his sanity after 10,000 years with no slumber, no peace, and no comfort. Only the shear, unbridled rage for his father which tethered his mind to the world.
@@andrewdowns9047, Aight fair. Was meant to be a joke. But understandable, have a good New Years.
"Never! All we have left between us is that we will die here together! I am Rylanor of the Emperor's Children, Ancient of Rites, Venerable of the Palatine Host, and proud servant of the Emperor of Mankind, beloved by all! I reject you! Now and always!"
True words of a loyalist, he died in glory.
@Benito Mussolini His sacrifice wasn't in vain because he was able to wound Fulgrim's pride which a wound that will last forever.
He went out as he lived on istivan 3 dunking on his primarch
He went out in a blaze of glory
"Long live Rylanor the ancient of rights!"
Dude the ending lines with "Rylanor deserves better than you, oh Primarch!" Genuinely make me tear up. What a nerd I've become
Same, Everysingle time.
Same as well.
Brings goosebumps up my arms every time.
Embrace it
the thousand sons never chose chaos they forced into it by the space wolfs and even the primarch of the space wolves blamed himself for magnus fall
The Dreadnought chasis was so broken because it has carried the sheer god damn weight of Ancient Rylanor's massive balls for few millenia.
Wich were still bigger than Fulgrims will ever be trough chaos
@@michelecastellotti9172 ones are partially castrated and the size of a solar system and ones are technically non existant... Rylanor and Fulgrim
@@mk-ultraviolence1760 Don't give Fulgrim ideas. Then again...probably too late...
@@mk-ultraviolence1760 who said that. that is amazing
With balls that size, Rylanor could've been a guardsman.
Let us remember the Venerable Rylanor, the Ancient of Rites, one who dissed Fulgrim so hard that some onlooking Thousands Sons' sorcerers sacrificed themselves willingly just so he could have his revenge.
TTS better mention this
@Jon dow
Boring joke my man
@Jon dow I feel like I've seen this copypasta somewhere already and with the same amount of spelling mistakes...
@@Matihood1 it's on every comment of this video
@Jon dow when was this joke first mentioned? No seriously I’ve been seeing it everywhere and want to know where is started.
My favourite part of this is when they acknowledge that even though Rylanor is withered, ancient, and half dead he is still enough to stop them in their tracks and still think ‘I don’t think we can take him’
He is motivated by his hatred of Fulgrim and loyalty to the emperor, making him want to fight even harder
and hes not the walking frideg hes the better great crusade version i belive is called a redemptor
Dude’s just built different
its not just will.. he was alone on that world, without maintenance for 10.000 years besides whatever he could manage to do himself (and with how big a dread's mitts are, its already a miracle he even managed to set up the beacon and rig the bomb); the dreadnought must have been literally an inch away from just falling apart, eaten by rust and the joints struggling to move from lack of oiling. And even in that decaying state he was STILL seen as a big threat by friggin sorcerers.
Y'all gotta remember that dreadnaughts are some pretty heavy machinery. If they close in melee then a single blow could kill most normal space marines, and at a range it depends on the dreadnought, but they could be gunned down by a minigun fairly easy. Mix that with heavy armor and you got trouble, even if he is hardly mobile. Fulgrim is only able to beat him in the initial fight so easily because primarchs are literally built different.
No line can possibly hit harder than Rylanor proudly proclaiming that he is one of The Emperor's Children in spite of how the title's significance had been dragged through the mud, I like to think that monolithic act of defiance hit Fulgrim like a sack of bricks to the head
Exactly, that part hits the hardest
That must have hit har door Fulgrim
As well as every single thing Rylanor said he did befor is very end
And also the betray of the thousand son because why would it not hurt when your ally turn on you
@@galomir833 Oh they're not allies, they follow different gods and the different Chaos gods are enemies of each other
@@brucejedilee5290 i know they are 2 different legion and Fulgrim is whit slaneesh if i'm not wrong and the thousand son is whit tzeech
but they are ally most of the time i heard about them in the same area
@@galomir833 Eh not really. Chaos is, as the name suggest, chaotic. While temporary alliances do happen most of the time the different Chaos factions fight each other. The gods of Chaos are enemies whose goal is to undermine one another and therefore their respective followers aren't too friendly with each other. However, they may all unite from time to time during a Black Crusade under the banner of Chaos Undivided. Afterwards though they will go right back to fighting and scheming against each other
How fucking inspiring was Rylanor that he actually turned a Thousand Sons Sorcerer into a loyalist (even though for a few instants)?.
even more wonderful, he bring him back in thr emperor's light in his final instants
@Yourtuyt r Mortarion does too, Nurlge just makes it hard for him to show it.
@@happiness8512 mortarion fell to save his legion. Of course he cares for the.
Long enough for it to truly matter.
In the book, the writer goes to great lengths to show how disgusting and abhorrent fulgrim is.
As a loyalist emperors children 30k player who fields the Ancient Of Rites, Thank you. Ave Imperator
Gloria in Excelsis Terra.
@@seand.g423 Indeed my dear fellow my the emperor bless the oculus
It’s possible to play 30k?
@@beatzdyer yeah its been out for ages most of the stuff is on forgeworld including the books but there are some standard kits in gw mk3 and mk4 armour and the two terminator sets plus a hq box set and a contemptor dread
YOOOOO SAME!!! I've be slowly putting together a loyalist Emperor's Children army!
Intresting final lines:
Vistario's body is destroyed, but his soul redeemed.
Fulgrim's body is intact, but his soul even more damaged.
Or rather his pride because his soul is now with the Fulgrim clone.
@@mapleflag6518 still Fucking wild that one day we might have loyal emperors children with a loyal fulgrim again
@@marneuscalgar4361 Unless If Clonegrim was only a plot device in Fabius’s story.
@@mapleflag6518 still canon if someone else wants to use it
@@marneuscalgar4361 I've seen people mention that slight corruption was building up in Clonegrim and that he'd eventually fall, because his soul has already fallen before, tho I don't know much about it myself.
This song may have around 6 million views but it’s really just 7000 of us watching it 900 times because of how good it is.
True
Nah it’s the 3 thousand sons watching it to commemorate Rylanor
I stand as one of the proud 7000
yeah, considering its on most of my playlists thati listen to
He knows to much
The last moment of Rylanor's defiance is kinda a tribute to every loyalist from traitor legions. However after listening in to this song i am beginning to think that there was a diffrence between loyal legions and loyalists from traitor legions. Blood Angels, Imperial Fists and others were loyal to the Emperor, while Rylanor, Gravie Loken and the rest seemed to share the Emperor's dream. The galaxy clean of threats to humanity. The last lines in this song proves that to me. Rylanor says " I remember the virtues i stood for" "that you think i seek any glory". To me he basically says to Fulgrim, Chaos will not give me what want, because i belive in the dream of the Imperium of Man. It kinda shows the essence of Space Marines before the Horus Heresy. SM were just people who wanted to change the galaxy for a better.
At least that's what i think
Agreed, that's the reason why some Loyal Astartes still fall to Chaos.
Only those that share the Emperor's Dream remain truly loyal until the end.
Such feelings. A Space Marine gives up everything to become what he is. Their childhood, their younger ages, their love, friends, family, all the experiences of life, the chance for a family, working and creating.. basically everything that can make a human life enjoyable. In the Heresy book, it is written that Space Marines had literally nothing. A couple battle trophies that's all. No enjoyment, no hobbies, no companionship. In a strange way of compassion, I understand why so many rebelled. Many have been wondering if the worlds they have left behind was better than before the Astarte found them. The same thing Choas SM keep rehearsing. Their fate and duty twisted, broken, pointless and wrong.
The hardest contrast to 40k, and why they were wrong most importantly. Loyalist, who understood his dreams and visions saw what will become from the seed and why do they fight. It's not just their faith that was unshaken. They were not fools, and they also understood what the Traitors ruined. What Lorgar did not understood, what was he seeding.
Compared to 40k, where every loyalist, fighting like maddened zealots, till the last drop of their blood and breath leaving their body, with every scratch of their iron will, and unshakable faith, only hoping that with every step they take, with every effort made, they hopefully further their chapter long enough, so it would survive the next calamity. And why? That only too, so they could stand for humanity just a bit longer. That a Space Marine would give so much for a broken dream, to be the "rotten fence", to stand for what has humanity became. A dream and vision that was so easily broken in 30k. A dream and vision that is unimaginable in 40k.
Made me cry, thxs
Well that is the reason why the first members of the Inquisition were all loyal Traitor Marines :D
Too bad if that dream had ever been achieved the Emperor probably would've disposed of his loyal children like the Thunder Warriors.
Remember: Canonically, Rylanor's disstrack is more powerful than the virus bomb.
Yep. The insult to fulgrim now a full warp being is actually a very strong attack. They are heavily affected by thoughts and emotions and the fact that fulgrim in his full warp chaotic beauty couldn't sway one of his most prized children is probably incredibly damaging.
@@Tearakan Most definitely considering his abundance of pride.
Not just Rylanor's disstrack. Vistario's.
"Primarch Fulgrim! Rylanor deserves better than you! Rylanor deserves better than all of us."
The best of Fulgrim's sons is better than Fulgrim. And members of a rival Traitor Legion, in service to the God of Betrayal and Deceit, are literally willing to sacrifice themselves - a sacrifice that they, Magnus, and their god gain nothing from - just to prevent Fulgrim from corrupting Rylanor.
Ouch.
@@Tearakan Also, Fulgrim is *pride incarnate*. Think about that. Rylanor managed to wound the pride of *pride incarnate*.
@@Former_Halo_Fan Rylanor convinced one of the Thousand Sons to sacrifice himself. When the Thousand Son said that the Raptorae was "relieved of duty," he meant that the Thousand Son had put a bolt in the back of his brother's head. Still, even though they serve Tzeentch, the Thousand Sons are probably the nicest of the Traitor Legions. Usually, if you get captured by one, you'll be turned into a wizard, rather than a sex slave (Slaanesh), a test subject (Nurgle), or just murdered (Khorne). And yes, that applies to non-psykers because, even if their psychic potential is limited, they still have some potential for sorcery.
I like the idea that the reason Fulgrim pauses for a second after both Rylanor and the traitor legion marines die is becouse he is in UTTER SHOCK that Rylanor just turned the traitors into Loyalists by just being a walking tin can with anger.
@oppai-sama lol imagine getting beaten by an angry tin can full of honour, pride, and loyalty.
@@the_emperor_of_mankind my Lord is that truly you?
@@the_emperor_of_mankind father, what you think of rylanor?
@@leonardojimenezbermudez8605 one of the only astartes worthy of the name "emperor's children"
@@the_emperor_of_mankindYo Emprah, my man…Is it true that you tried to build the Imperial webway so you could boink some Eldar?!
I love how in 40k waiting for a million nights is not only not an exaggeration, but is actually an understatement
Indeed, it is more than THREE million nights...
To be fair, a million nights is around 3k more or less years so yeah
Well. It might actually be quite accurate. Considering there is no reason that the day/night cycle of Istvaan II is the same as Earth. It could be 3 times longer.
What wounds Fulgrim's pride more is that the Noise Marines won't stop playing this amazing song.
Fulgrim: "STOP PLAYING THAT DAMNED SONG?!!"
Noise Marine: "I CANNOT FOR IT FUCKING SLAPS!!!"
@@GhostBear3067 "WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU! MY EARS ARE BROKEN!"
Noise Marines: psychotic, demonically corrupted metalhead super soldiers with mohawk armor and flamethrower guitars. Truly, no setting has anything as badass as that.
Slaanesh: "... Sorry Fulgy, its pretty awesome"
@@LordyT34 slaneesh: this song brings pleasure to loyalist ears before they die, hearing of your failure. So no fulgrim, they shall not.
"The Phoenician's form was already weaving itself anew, but his soul was
broken. For no pain, no hurt and no injury could wound such a being as much as denial of its magnificence.
That was Ancient Rylanor's final victory."
For me, the wound was actually dealt by the Thousand Sons. Rylanor being their weapon as THEY denied Fulgrim with Rylanor as the catalyst and they gave him the death he so sorely deserved. One in vindication, as Kurze himself said similar when he died.
@@MisterTwoScoops Basically Thousands Sons denied Ryanor was the magnificient one and Fulgrim mere beast, and that hurt him.
In other words; "sticks and stones can't touch my bones, but words, they cut me to the quick."
@@101stLegion Oh get out of here with that Tumblr bullshit.
@@caesarczech7920 That's a legitimate quote, you know?
Heretic Astartes : We will never again be loyalists
Ancient Rylanor *breathes*
Heretic Astartes : *Fuck he is cool*
I read that like TFS Vegeta.
rylanor exists heretics : you son of a bitch I'm in
@@Southern_Crusader
"OH MY GOD HE'S SO COOL"
Oh my gosh he is do gosh darn cool said kirito.
"Oh no he's a loyalist"
Fulgrim: I beat you once already Guilliman.
Guilliman: Not nearly as hard as your son beat your ego.
Fulgrim: *Angry Snake Noises*
Man i need to thanks khan for teaching me his roasting skill
Ultrasmurfs: “DAAAAMMMMMMNNNNN”
Black Templars: "... FUCK WHY DID YOU HAVE TO DO THAT!?! NOW I'M CONFLICTED!... I miss Dorn..."
Fulgrim: Big talk for someone who’s insignia is a fucking toilet seat
Vistario didn’t let the bomb go off to defend his honour, he did so to defend Rylanor’s. Despite being chaos aligned himself, he would not see the venerable Ancient of Rites be defiled, even at the cost of his own life.
And it was his honour to do so to allow it to happen would be dishonourable but chose to protect his own and rylanors honour
And to spite Fulgrim. Cause no one likes Fulgrim.
@@TheSlamburger except Fulgrim. Fulgrim REALLY likes Fulgrim.
And just to flip fulgrim off as well
A true bro.
Rylanor: "Hey Fulgrim, I just thought of something funnier than the Virus bombing of Istvaan III."
Fulgrim: "Let me hear it."
Rylanor: "The *second* Virus bombing of Istvaan III"
Fulgrim: *snickers* "Wai-"
"It is even *funnier* the second time!"
@@beefyblom Rylanor: “Wanna see me do it again?”
@@beefyblom or. Dare I quote the Muppets. “We’re doing a sequel!”
Rylanor: I'll fuckin do it again
Wasn't there 3 virus bombs ? 2 was launched by traitors and third was set off by Rynalor ?
People say Rylanor was put in a Dreadnought due to injuries sustained, but they were wrong. It was to allow him to carry his massive set of Adamantium Balls.
My brother....there isnt anything large or strong enough in the galaxy that could carry rylenors massive adamantine balls....second only to the emperor...he bows to no one
Titan sized adamatium balls.
Auramite Balls
@@marsultorem3207 ye
@@gajeel9798 he may not bow to the emperor but perhaps a simple salute out of respect?
Imagine what a chad you have to be to impress a chaos sorcerer of TZEENTCH, a literal deity of betrayal and scheming, to sacrifice his own eternal life to back your play
A truly vitreous one, I would wager...
It just shows how depraved Fulgrim is.
Hell, the EC were unnerving other Traitor Astartes even during the heresy.
@Vae Victis Vistario would have been unaffected by the Rubric of Ahriman, since he's a powerful enough psyker, or do you mean the raptorae?
@@emzetkin1100 these people don't care about the lore
Tzeentch predicted it and just wanted to mess with Fulgrim
Anyone else felt the chills when Vistario finally figured out what planet he was standing on and why he and his entourage been feeling crushing dread from the moment they set foot on it? Even 10,000 years after the Atrocity, the lingering aura of mass fratricidal treachery on Istvaan III manages to give pause to veteran Heretic Astartes serving the Chaos God of all things mind-shattering insanity.
It was only a 1000 years after^^
@@firstcaptainvaleriusrensor463 Istvaan III was M31, Rylanor waited all the way into M41 for his revenge, so 10000 years.
@@christianmacdonald3293 10 millenia spent sharpening the blade of his will and vengeance
What I think happened to Istvan III, is that the dead Astartes stalk the planet, which is why the psychic scream perpetuates.
@@ultramarinescaptain3840 I think its the Number of humans that died at the same time and there psychical death Scream
A short tale and wonderful song that captures what I love about Warhammer. Even battered, broken and offered power, Rylanor rejected corruption and stood for everything good about the Astartes, about humanity. He may have died and Fulgrim survived, but still he won. His righteous enough to inspire a heretic Astartes and his defiance burned into memory forevermore. What does Fulgrim have?
Ashes on the wind, ringing with the sting of rejection and failure.
There was more than that one thousand suns at the scene.
Well... Fulgrim also still has an army of powerful angels of death, a planet of pure ecstasy to form as he wishes, his honor as a servant of Chaos, his life, his soul, his individuality. he has a lot
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 And yet his pride his core has taken a wound he will never recover from. Cry harder mangy cur of chaos. Also no he doesn't have his honor as a servant of chaos given his ineptitude has cost him quite a few thousand sons who followed Tzeentch. That's on him Tommy boy
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 as much as a crack addict that uses drugs to appease his painful existence, fulgrim is just an addict to ecstasy that desperately tries to run from his mistakes with madness, excesses and death
@@templar9365 so much better than the technophiles of Mars and the near fetishists of the Sororitas, eh?
The Emperor: "The Thousand Sons are beyond redemption."
Rylanor: *Turns a group of them just by being badass*
Actually Magnus and most of his boys are the closest to redemption of all of them
@@00784865 The reference is that the emperor said that the whole legion was bad and had to be thrown out to magnus when he tried to help the loyalists during the siege of terra, which magnus obviously refused, since he wasn't one to betray his sons for his abusive father
@@williamharris516 well by that he meant the flesh change not that the legion wasnt loyal.
@@odettefahy4568 heresy
@@odettefahy4568 heresy
Fulgrim’s sadness at the end makes me wonder if it’s not just embarrassment, but regret. Rylanor was a reminder of the past, and reminded the Primarch what he could have been had he not given up everything to chase perfection. And now that’s gone forever.
Specially because Ryalor atack him like he was any other enemy of the great crusade. Is clearly he dosent see his genesolder as anything else but a monster.
Given that Primarch after turning to Chaos are no longer really a Primarch and behave and act totally different than they did prior to becoming corrupted I do not think so, the only thing that remains the same between their time as a loyalist to their corruption is just that they have the memories, but how they view and treat those memories are completely distorted.
The evidence is that a clone of Fulgrim has been made and it's actually pre-corrupted Fulgrim with all his memories and is disgusted with the corrupted version of himself (This is evidence to that they just don't think alike at all anymore at this point). The issue is that the Necron (forgot his name) the one who has that massive collection library took him and put him in his library to look at for his pleasure.
So no, the Fulgrim here is not sad, he is angry and his pride has been wounded to never be recovered which is stated because it's important as Demon princes/ The chaos gods gain their power through conceptualization meaning Fulgrims pride being wounded and never to recover will literally be a wound he won't be able to recover from and still hasn't.
@@forgblack5222 the cron you are thinking of is trazyn the infinite. aka Trollzyn the tarpit breaker, one of the galaxies biggest kleptomaniacs up their with the blood ravens.
I don't know about regret but I think maybe just a shade of doubt now follows him, I think that will be much more crippling in the long run
in the end that is the fulgrims greatest weakness he knows he ISNT perfect because in his fall to choas he lost his morality and thus his ablity to feel true non vainglorious pride he indluges in overwhelming horror sin and evil because the hedonistic rush of vainglory is the only thing he can truly feel.
if daemon fulgrim was ever truly WHOLLY beaten on the feild of battle by another enemy in a disgracefull way i truly belive his internal self worth is so weak and fragile hed break down into geuine tears even as the daemon king of toture hes become.
Bless Rylanor, may he rest along with the other true sons of the emperor.
They died for what they believed in, they died knowing they took many traitors with them.
@@imperialfist2304 I have some much respect for Rylanor that I've considered getting an Emperor's children dreadnought just so I could make a Rylanor model to honor him.
Glory to those who stood true at the cost of their lives
Nickster He deserves that brother.
And may we grant some forgiveness to vistario, who allowed rylanors act of defiance.
That line, "I am one of the Emperor's Children" never ceases to send shivers down my spine. It is so perfect. In that instant Rylanor declared two things. First - that he truly was the last loyal member of his legion. Second - That even after ten thousand years he was still a child of the Emperor
And that Fulgrim and the rest are no longer worthy of the name. It's straight defiance. It's a perfect line in every way
Well... maybe not the last, not anymore. There's a "successor" primaris chapter named sons of the Phoenix who use livery very similar to pre-heresy EC. With the Silver Skulls chapter being all but confirmed to be Iron Warriors successors, it's pretty clear that Cawl used traitor geneseed for primaris legions and covered it up as best he could. If only Rylanor could have met them...
He's the only being who has a right to proudly state that
@@feIIas he would be proud that his legion did end up doing something good for humanity
@@feIIas he'd be like the Salamanders, going to their successors to teach them the ways of their people, their culture, their values, traditions, and history. He'd show them their legacy and what standard they must reach.
A legacy of loyalty and improvement
the fact that Vistario initially refers to Rylanor as "it" before switching to "he" is a really nice touch
I agree. Dreadnought pilots are usually a former shell of their old self, only existing to serve the emperor. But Rylanor proved even entombed in a walking sarcophagus, he was still a Man, an Astartes, and he would always serve the Emperor.
@@THEGRUMPTRUCK Not true at all. Dreadnoughts are nearly always seen as valuable advisors and holders of a Chapter/Legion's traditions. Eventually they *usually* degrade mentally if they're awake too long without periods of stasis to help rest their minds. Periods they usually get. Rylanor is still unusual, given it's been ten thosand years and he's still mostly sane where most Dreadnoughts wouldn't have managed his level of eloquence, but then... he IS in the best dreadnought pattern ever made. Perhaps the strain is less.
@@selonianth Contemptors in 30k can he assumed to have much better technology. The degradation of tech after the Horus Humbug had quite the effect.
@@THEGRUMPTRUCK ... Yes... I said that.
@@selonianth Probably helped that he didn't seem to sleep through any of that time like most dreadnoughts would have until somebody spent an hour waking him up, he was consciously waiting to exact his vengeance while stewing over how wrong everything had gone.
"I remember the lessons passed down to the sons." This line hit hard for me. Its like he's saying just because y'all decided to be a bunch of rapey murder crackheads doesn't mean I forgot my assignment.
even more weight since Rylanor is one of the OG's from Terra that gave the legion it's name. he was LITERALLY there when the emperor created the Emperor's Children
@@thorveim1174 He wasn't just there; he fought alongside the Emperor himself. He participated in the Unification Wars.
@@thorveim1174 thats why he say
"We learn from HIM to hold truth with every breath"
You described the night lords XD
@@yorukage5926 we don't talk about night lord
Even chaos don't talk about them
Holy hell, after all this time, I JUST realized that the notes at the beginning are meant to sound like an SOS signal. Three long pings, three short pings, then three long pings again.
*I SHOULD HAVE REALISED THIS SOONER THANK YOU!*
Oh my God you are right, thats the signal! God this song is great!
Indeed.
Holy shit, such attention to detail!
Shouldn't it be the other way around? ...---... Three short, three long, three short.
Imagine failing so badly at being charismatic that you not only fail to convince one of your own sons to not kill you, you fail so hard that an ostensibly-allied force joins in to commit ritual suicide purely in the name of SPITING YOU.
That's a nat 1 on the charisma check if I ever saw one
this is like rolling 4 charisma checks and having them all come up as nat 1s
such an immense critical failure that im surprised fulgrim didnt just fall face down into the chaos equivilent of a bed and start sobbing
@@boomerpro87 Hell you would need to devise a negative dice just for this
@@Schinak the game was rigged from the start. Rylanor has the attribute "Ancent of Rites" granting him +35 to Will saves. It's pretty much the most OP attribute in the whole game, because not even a nat 1 can make him fail a +35.
@@youisa1 Is that an actual tabletop thing?
The inflection in the word "Abomination" was incredible.
it feels like a response to how fulgrim rolls his words.
@@alyssinclair8598 And the way he gives it, you can taste the scorn and hatred at what his Primarch had become.
Rylanor: I have only one regret.
Fulgrim: And what, child, might that be?
Rylanor: *That I can only kill you once.*
"I ONLY REGRET THAT I HAVE BUT ONE LIFE TO LOSE...
...TO FLIP YOU OFF!"
Nathan Hale, from the far-distant past: "That's not the quote"
Actually if Rylanor was accepted into the Legion of the Damned then he can potentially kill Fulgrim as many times as he want
@@VetyBurr that's .y favorite headcanon. When Rylanor finally disintegrated, his soul wreathed in vengeful wrath refused to rest. Instead, he became an avatar of the Emperor's wrath. The Legionnair of the Damned
When the final battle that will consume all of creation begins, when the forces of Chaos clashes with the Imperium for once and for all, Rylanor will be there waiting. This time, Fulgrim will perish permanently by Rylanor
@@CBRN-115 In the end it was pointless as chaos won
@@jimiacuwhg3836 he got roasted so hard he lost like most of his pride
"You can never be forgiven for the things that you've done; and so it falls to my hands to end the prodigal son!" The sheer *power* in those words, I can't
Its one of the saddest lines to me...because in the end fulgrim was still his "father" and brother in arms...dispite what he turned into...so saying it falls to his hands to kill him must also kill Rylenor inside somewhere deep within him, duty demands death but he can still feel sorrow for what he must do
@@gajeel9798 jesus rylanor should get a movie
@@Voltboy1449 oh id love to watch it but unless u include the whole heresy it wouldnt make much sense
@@gajeel9798 it's more his story maybe a companion peice to a horus heresy movie
@@Voltboy1449 yea, like i feel tho it would be hard despite how badly i want it to make rylenor a movie...unless you eased into or gave a tldr for the heresy and just started in on it, maybe follow along the thousand sons who went to investigate for the majority of the time and tease at rylenors exsistance before the final act of them coming face to face with the venerable dreadnought himself
If the TTS Emperor saw Rylanor. I wouldn't be surprised if he said "I raised that boy."
"that's my boy!" *ghostly psychic hand wipes one beautiful golden tear from the skeleton face of the Emperor of Mankind.*
"ROGAL! BUILD A STATUE IN HIS HONOR! A REALLY. FUCKING. BIG. STATUE. LIKE BIGGER THAN YOURS."
"I shall do this. Serf! Bring me my tools and 12,000 laborers."
@@aethertech he would say that. Especially the last one
"I can't believe it took over 10k years but I finally found a man with balls as big as that one Imperial guardsman who saved me from FUCKING Horus. We need to tell those assholes in the Adeptus Ministorum to issue a new edict declaring Rylanor as the most badass Imperial Saint to have ever worn my fabulous Aquila symbol. I mean seriously, he wounded a demon Primarch with a few words."
@@jefferycrouse4652 "Random Mechanicus guy, I SUMMON YOU!"
"Could we build a space station out of cyberdongs, and would this improve the aesthetics? Yes my emperor?"
"I want every imperial world to have a statue to Rylanor outside every dwelling place. Each shall have an engraving that reads, "The Chad of Ancients". Further today shall forever be known as Rylanor day, and everyone must spend an hour insulting Fulgrim in front of the statue. Whoever thinks up the best insults gets given a prize from the other people present."
"Rylanor deservers better then you, oh primarch!
Rylanor deserver better than all of us!"
Even a chaos marine was moved by Rylanor's honor.
Well he was a thousand sons he has a form of respect and 100% truth
@@carlwalters5909
Yeah. In addition, the Thousand Sons did not rebel in the same manner as the other traitor legions; they kinda got forced into it due to Horus tricking Leman into murdering their home world.
Benito Mussolini yeah, emperor wanted magnus brought back to terra to face charges, but Horus told Leman to destroy prospero, forcing magnus to join chaos
@@MrBardTard "tricking"
@Benito Mussolini Vistario and Rylanor perished together and joins Big E's Legion of Ghost Rider Astartes
_Vistario took the measure of Fulgrim, seeing nothing worthy in him._
A fun thing to consider is that when this event takes place Fulgrim has already become a full Daemon Prince, meaning he has shed his physical form and become a being of pure warp matter. Warp matter is influenced by your own thoughts and consciousness. It's why staying in there long-term causes Chaos Marines and their followers to find their bodies warping and mutating into twisted extensions of their own inner demons and personal faults. Fulgrim had become a "perfect" serpentine 'angel' of a daemon, relishing and reveling in his self-conceived beauty and pride, and how he saw himself as perfect and infallible.
Now consider that Rylanor inflicted a psychological wound on Fulgrim by rejecting him and damaging the pride which is the foundation upon which the Primarch defines his own existence. This could very well be the equivalent of giving Fulgrim a form of metaphysical warp cancer, as the injury to his pride, and thus his very soul and existence, will forever mark him, and his psychically projected/shaped form. It could spread and ruin him if given time, if he dwells on his defeat on Istavaan III.
Huh, that's actually pretty cool
Well that's litterally what the end of the song tells ?...
His pride, as a Slaneesh Prince Daemon was hurt, and altough his body escaped from the bomb, his pride of being fooled will never heal and will weaken him for eternity...
And this is how Clonegrim came about, I don't doubt. The one who represents what Fulgrim _could_ have been. Not an illusion of the arrogant assumption of perfection, but one who now knows that perfection is impossble, but one that should still be sought so that you can be better than you are. One who knows everything his original has done and is horrified by it, as he sees the lies that his original has wrapped around himself. Clonegrim has rejected those lies.
Just imagine if fulgrim some how Un corrupted by this fulgrim who is fall so deep can be save by this rylanors last gift to humanity
A son redeeming his father by destroying his pride
It could be awesome
another fun thing to remember, the virus bomb wouldnt really have done shit to him since he's a demon primarch (but at the time he wouldnt have known about that since emps kept chaos so hard under wraps back in 30k) so those thousand sons showing up ended up letting him do more damage than he could have possibly done with the bomb
The thing I love most about this story is that The Thousand Sons knew this wouldn't kill Fulgrim, he was a demon primarch by then. They decided to die because Fulgrim was such a tool to his own son, their deaths were worth mildly inconveniencing him.
Since fulgrim is a deamon and composed of emotions wouldn't somethings hurt is pride hurt his body as well?
@@hugolaffilay7456 yes, a blow to his pride directly hurts his form and powers
@@hugolaffilay7456 I honestly hope this wound will prove to be the weakness that brings him down in the end.
@@Schinak may guilliman hear the story of rylanor
@@hugolaffilay7456 YES
The stories of every loyalist from the traitor legions that died in glory and with honour, in service of the Imperium.
Rylanor: Hey, Fulgrim!
Fulgrim: What?
Rylanor: *Shows unexploded Virus Bomb* When you get to hell, tell Horus he missed!
That totally sounds like something from TTS
@@Schinak Lacks some swear words but yeah.
It's just missing 4 or more lines of dialogue but it's really good and simple
@@carlwalters5909 what would you add?
@@raspherion "[And] tell them my condolences."
I believe that if there were any loyalist Emperor’s Children left, their battle cry would be “THE ANCIENT AWAITS!”
Sadly unlikely. Only Fulgrim and MAYBE Magnus know about Rylanor at all at this point.
While they don’t know the ultimate fate of the ancient, my chapter, a disparate band of surviving EC, WE, SoH, and DG loyalists (and those who followed after) have been fighting against the heretics for 10,000 years. One of theyre greatest chapter masters who was greivously wounded but refused to stop fighting was bestowed a great honor upon his entermnet. Tho he was not the unyielding, he is the Unbroken. Just like those of he led.
@@thorveim1174 with how much Magnus doesn’t liek Fulgrim, he would probably “let it slip” in a “vision” to a custode or someone else that Fulgrim got mega memed by Rylanor
@@terbin4487 Funnily enough. I have also done a Legion. A mix of Renegades and Loyalists who have either been exiled or abandoned. At the head of them all is an Aspiring Champion and a Venerable Dreadnought housing a Captain :) Their main mission is to unite more Exiles from all races and go to war in the Eye of Terror
@@terbin4487
I'd rather have Rylanor's final act of defiance unknown to anyone except Fulgrim, it makes things more tragic.
And more personal to Fulgrim.
"At last Fulgrim, you have come to me, abomination."
The delivery of that line is just beautiful. Heck, this whole song is so beautiful to the point you could probably use it as something to damage Fulgrim by proxy. Rylanor's VA was brilliant - perfectly conveying the quote "Righteous Being of Defiance," and Corgi's voice as Fulgrim just _dripped_ with ego on every single line (save, fittingly, the last one). And Rylanor's final verbal blow against Fulgrim and the...I forget the exact musical term so I'll go with 'orchestra' around it is, to put it with the absolute minimum recognition, *absolutely bloody fantastic.*
Just...bloody brilliant work, all around. Absolutely magnificent.
I like that it sounds like the machine spirit is also spitting on Fulgrim. Rylanor and the machine spirit were probably some of the longest bonded dreadnaughts.
@@Siegberg91 id cut the „some“ away if were not talking about potential chaos dreadnaughts, the oldest I knew prior to him was Bjorn (or whatever exactly)
Couldn't have said it better.
Exactly. The execution on this is just perfect.
I believe that the musical term you're looking for in crescendo.
I have a soft spot for the Thousand Sons. They're generally cool guys, don't really commit atrocities (their attack on Fenris notwithstanding), and their primarch, unlike the others who willingly embraced chaos, only turned to Tzeentch to save his sons and himself.
Also, the Thousand Sons being willing to assist a loyalist Astartes in temporarily killing that asswipe Fulgrim is definitely another point in their favor.
The Thousand Sons are some of the most tragic villains of 40k. Magnus, despite his flaws and mistakes, was someone who genuinely loved the Imperium and the Emperor. And the more Magnus tried to help, the more everything fell down around him. Desperation led him into the embrace of evil, one which he had no choice but to accept or else his sons would die. Yet he couldn't save them in the end, and now all that remains of his proud legion are empty husks and broken bodies. His dream of knowledge and advancing humanity as a psychic species has been cast aside or twisted, either by the Imperium or himself. Magnus may have made mistakes, but that was because he was misguided, not out of evil intentions.
And the worst part is that, from a certain point of view, Magnus the Red is dead, because his soul was broken into fragments and his best parts never returned to him, so all that remains is but a shadow of who Magnus once was: the Crimson King.
Even we know Fenris doesn’t count towards atrocities for 2 things, Is anybody living there? And 2, Wolves burned Prospero, we’ll give you psychic nerds a freebie.
@@imperialfist2304 Yes, people do live on Fenris. It's the only place the Space Wolves can recruit from because their gene-seed only works in Fenrisian natives for some reason. Any other Humans suffer extremely horrible rejections.
KaBar41 I still give you the freebie for prospero
@@imperialfist2304 I am willing to call it an eye for eye and that the Sons have had their revenge. Hopefully Magnus gets a redemption arc, Russ is found, the two brothers hug it out and the two peoples are able to unite as one absolutely, utterly terrifying, Chaos slaughtering force.
Imagine, for a brief moment if you will, Robute Guilliman hearing this. How many statues would he rise of Rylanor JUST to stick two fingers up to Fulgrim?
If only he did there would be statues from his homeworld all the way to Terra
Enough to _break_ Fulgrim.
You know what? I can definitely picture Guilliman raising as many statues, shrines and memorials to Rylanor in the galaxy as he can, all to spite Fulgrim who's so enraged at this that he can't think of anything but turn all traces of Rylanor to dust. Meanwhile, Guilliman keeps restoring what Fulgrim destroys, all the while being in the same pose as Inquisitor Coteaz in the Trials of Kaldor Draigo.
Given that Fulgrim almost killed him? One for every person in the Imperium. At least.
I picture him praying to it before he sleeps 😅
I don't see many people talking about it, but Vistario is the other chad in this song, he basically turned loyalist the moment he saw the injustice commited to Rylanor, and acted in consequence, dying with his honor intact,he deserves as much respect as Rylanor in my opinion.
Vistario arrives at the side of the emperor after death
Vistario: "Hang on! I was a traitor! Why am I here with you?"
Emperor: "Because your death was badass!"
It would even be that odd
We don’t know what the emperor is doing in the warp since the day he was put on that throne
@@scotibot7450 you became a traitor by unfortunate circumstances you couldn't control. You became a loyalist again out of respect
indeed
More than one Thousand Son has chosen death to maintain the honor of another.
You know how in the immeterium everything is rendered on its ideas and peoples emotions?
I think Isstvan III just appears as a giant middle finger pointing up at the sky.
Defiance to the bitter end and the bleeding wound inflicted upon the traitor legions as they wasted far more manpower and time on this planet than they had anticipated
May very well be a gravestone with Rylanor's face and a middle finger, followed by the inscription "Here lies Fulgrim's pride"
Cadia is two middle fingers
@@thedyingmeme6 Cadia is a gigantic shield with a middle finger on it that always rotates to show the finger to the nearest chaos-abomination and it's backside to the nearest loyalist.
I honestly think this was the inception of the legion of the damned, long fallen loyal men whose spirits live on covered in the flames of Isstvan III and who for the longest time built in ever growing power till they manifested themselves as the vengeful angels bathed in flame ready to unleash their fury while also protecting all innocents they can.
The Loyalists in the Traitor Legions are awesome.
Total badasses
Honourful over all
No loyal marine will even be as awesome as the loyalist members of the traitor legions.
Rylanor, Loken and Nathaniel are a testament of this.
@@UncleAsmos2005 Don't forget Tarvitz
They deserved remembrance of their sacrifice
To be one of the Emperor's Children was to be the very herald of the Imperium. To represent all that glory, that promise, that HOPE. Literally the first impression many planets got of the Imperium. Even the name of the legion carries such weight. For a military unit to be called "The King's Own" or some variation of that means they carry the highest regard, the very honor of their leader. They wore the Imperial purple on their armor. The Emperor's Children should have been the most incorruptible.
I cannot imagine what Rylanor went through on Istavan III. The horror, the shame of realizing that your Legion has betrayed EVERYTHING, that the very cloaks they turn are ones of royal purple. I'd say a lot of Loyalist ECs died because they froze in mind numbing shock when their world imploded.
Fulgrim's pride was forever wounded because he was confronted by the man he should have been, loyal enough to dwell on a dead world surrounded by the dead for a THOUSAND YEARS just for the slightest chance at making it right.
10 thousand....
@@aaronstorey9712 yeag
Technically the word bearers were the heralds of the imperium
@@aaronstorey9712raylanor doesn’t even know he said “a million nights” he must’ve either went to sleep/hibernation cause a million nights is only 2,750yrs so my interpretation is he was awake making his plan for 2,750yrs then slept for the rest of the 7,750yrs till his trap was set off and woke him up like a alarm lol 😅
Isn't it so cruely ironic, that Fulgrim's teachings about perfection were only achived by a scant few, one of them being a literal walking death coffin? The man didn't heed his own words, and got clapped back for it.
Oh Fulgrim's perfect..... at being an asshole, maybe.
Never has "perfect is the enemy of good" been more literal.
Angron: By Khorne, i hate my sons!
Mortarion: If mine where not so damn happy all the time because of nurgle, i'm pretty sure they would hate me.
Magnus: Eh, mine are still okay. Fulgrim is the luck one in this regard.
Fulgrim: I... Dont wanna talk about it...
Magnus: "at least, the ones I still have"
Fulgrim: I'm surprised you feel so strongly about pocket sand, Magnus.
Angron hate.. no i don´t think he did more like he´s indifferent to them.
the only Primarch that really HATED his legion was Curze the nighthunter, he hated his legion and what it had become.
Also you missed Lorgar and Perturabo.
Lorgar: My sons can do whatever they like as long as they serve chaos and don´t disturb my meditation.
Perturabo: I accept my sons, but if they fail me, i will decimate them to make them stronger.
@@Erikjust Alpharius/Omegon
My sons don't know who I am! They all think they're me!
@@Dragonspirit223 horus: if I was still alive, I’d beat the shit out of abbadon
I got to admit, the whole thing about the Thousands Son's giving Rylanor his revenge is pretty god damn cool. Even at it's worst, 40k still lets even those be tainted by darkness show their honor. At the end of the day, some Traitor Marines still hold their ideals in their hearts, warped they maybe.
the thousand sons werent really corrupted like the others, they were manipulated and forced to turn. now their only real goals are revenge on the wolves and restoring the rubric marines. im glad they got a moment to show they can still be pretty cool guys.
el bastardo so theoretically Magnus can return to the imperium yet does needs to settle a score with Leman
@@Keaghan9 It's theoretically possible. If one of the traitor legions returned to seek redemption it would be the thousand sons, but there's a big problem. Magnus is a demon now, he's literally a part of Tzeentch like a cell makes up a larger organism. He has autonomy for the most part, but cannot fully rebel against chaos now. That being said, he could still send his sons back to the Imperium so *they* could be redeemed, but he wouldn't do this without assurances of their safety, which nobody in the Imperium would be willing to give him.
@@burntham113 Correction. He can't rebel against Tzeentch. But he can still fight other forces of chaos.
@@conan2096 They weren't but even chaos has a way of warping things heavily. It is unfortunate that the true traitor was Horus since he was the one who instructed Russ to kill Magnus and thus turn him to chaos. Honestly I think that's kind of a plot hole. Seeing as how Big E made it clear that he wanted Magnus brought back alive. And since he's the Emperor of Mankind, that order should have superseded Horus'. Either way, I do like to see Chaos Marines be portrayed as more than mere slathering psychotic hedonists or neurotic obsessed madmen.
Gives them a bit more layers, and I'm totally cool with that.
OK StringStorm, let's get down to brass tacks. What's it going to cost to get you to recreate the Horus Heresy as a metal opera? Because, I will kick into that Kickstarter Campaign. I will kick into it hard!
Same here! I’ll throw what money I can at a kickstarter for it!
Shut up and take my money!
SAME!
YES!
dude, that would be fucking amazing
to understand how impressed the thousand sons were,Magnus the Red was willing to commit the worst crimes in the imperium to save his legion,he gave up an eye for that he LOVED his sons
For them to see Fulgrim abusing Rylanor and the hatred his son carried against his primarch tells them enough about Fulgrim
He waited for 10k years,just so he can hurt his father
what kind of pain did Fulgrim put him trough?for them it was clear as day who was in the right
The moment Fulgrim picked up a s6x toy. Also Istvaan III massacre of true loyal battle brothers.
Read Galaxy In Flames by Ben Counter, Flight of the Eisenstein by James Swallow and Fulgrim by Graham McNeill. You'll understand then.
The Sons were the one Legion that was truly never supposed to turn traitor. Even in service to Chaos, their virtues have not abandoned them entirely.
Defiance and will so strong, mere sight of it made sorcerers find their salvation.
Rylanor, the last true Emperor's Child.
He died standing in defiance against his traitorous father
Now only the anchorite of almace is left
Fulgrim's ego took an Exterminatus big time
When his sheer determination turns traitor back to loyalist you know that guy is no joke.
@@TheWarmachine375 You could say it was a... Daemon Exterminatus!
I love how Rylanor's picture lights up with colors when he's about to start his part, and when he dies, and the colors go dark, it pulls some strings in my heart.
Rest in peace Rylanor, you deserved better than everyone.
@The Xenomorphian even better, he and these two TS show up as Legion of the Damned.
For me, the portrait of Rylanor almost seems to be crying. Crying for the novices he trained, both the ones that fell on Istvaan III against the traitors and the ones who fell to Chaos. Crying out of rage upon seeing that he is the last Palatine Host member, the last one to bear the purple colour bestowed to The Third by the Emperor. Crying out of righteous fury as he is shouting his lasts words before death. Obvs it was unintentional, but still cool.
"And I weep all the more, for I weep in vain."
That's fucking epic man.
Funny that the word "Cry" means both to shed tears AND to shout and scream.
I can imagine Clonegrim (the perfect clone of Fulgrim) would cry about how proud he is to Rylanor, Saul Tarvitz and the rest of the loyalist Emperor’s Children and would also cry on the mistakes and heresy his original did
Yes brother rylanor will be remembered
@@contemptordreadnought Say hi to him next time you see the LoD, okay?
@@therealchaosguy Mkay
Heist time to bust Clonegrim free
@william Aldred fml this made my day! Absolutely 100% my headcanon now
Can you imagine how awkward it must’ve been for the thousand sons there? Like they were just standing there while their cousin argued with his dad
I just imagine them in the back screaming "woooooooaaaaaahhhnhh" as Rylanor spits epic disses at Fulgrim
why do you think they killed themselves?
Cousins must always side with each other, never with the uncle.
@@henrypaleveda7760 true homies. I hope big E saved their souls with Rylanor. Like they were pure and untaint by Tzeentch (they survived the rubick) they only are with Magnus out of Self defense, Loyalty to the chapter and no where on the galaxy its a save place for them besides the realm of Tzeentch. So they in theory are okish
@@sergiovergaramontemiranda2116 i mean dont get it twisted, they VERY much hate the corpse emperor and his never ending list of fuck ups, they just also hold on to the honor of the thousand sons
The loyalist Luna wolves, Death Guards, world eaters and Emperors children may have died in istvaan but they gave Horus the biggest middle finger by staying alive for 3 months
wait, 3 moths? damn, they really stalled the traitors for that long?
props to the loyalist bois
@@sexmachine0732 and that was after being virus bombed
@@WillowGreenheart the biggest MVP is angron being angron tho, if he hadnt charged in like the angry dude he is, horus wouldve just bombed them again to wipe out the survivors.
Peanut Butter I believe Angron was double enrage because the few loyalist World Eaters that were there COUNTER CHARGED their own Primarch and army.
@@Benthino i think there was an element of respect or mercy there too, even if he didn't love his sons the way most primarchs did he wouldn't want to deny them warrior's deaths like the emperor did to him
1st play: hmmm not bad.
5th play: yeah, this is GOOD.
245th play: I AM RYLANOR AND I AM THE ANCIENT OF RITES!!!
Same here :-D
Me playing this for the 15th time: Rylanor deserves better than you oh primarch, Rylanor deserves better than all of us!
@@CBRN-115 So, you feel you align with Chaos?
@@BaldPolishBiotechnol inquisitor NO, please don’t
@@thedisturbedpreist Pleading is useless! Innocence proves nothing!
I like to think Fulgrim found him almost immediately post heresy but was waiting for someone to notice, after a few millennia he ensured the signal would get out so that someone would send someone to give him that audience he craves
That’s why how he made it there so quickly, just absolutely dying for hear what Rylanor will say, and just preparing the perfect counters to all his arguments, just for Rylanor to go “fuck you, have a virus bomb” 😂
Pretty much what I've always thought. He wanted an audience to witness their reunion and hear the speech Rylanor was going to give all about Fulgrims favorite subject: Fulgrim.
And that makes it even more ironic. He waited 10,000 years to have an audience to what he thought would a triumph over the last vestige of his loyalist sons, only to have that same audience contribute to one of the worst defeats he has ever suffered.
@@nicksavelle9493 fulgrims like can't wait to see what he's come up with and rylanor just says GET REKT
The last true Emperor's Children.
I hope in the future the Emperor notices his devotion and loyalty and add him in the Ranks of the Legion of the Damned to scare fulgrim more
@@Voltboy1449 "Eat virus bomb, bottom bitch!" -Rylanor's true rebuttal
Since Magus sent his marines there, I imagine he also watched everything that went down with his psycher powers.
Probably with a bowl of popcorn.
I can totally imagine this, remove a handful of followers that have too much sympathy for loyalists and scar Fulgrim for eternity whilst getting to enjoy the whole show in full 5D probably made the top 5 days of his life easy. "Now call Fulgrim a bitch and tell him you served me for over 10 thousand years but that you would rather genocide yourself and an entire planet than spend another second in his presence."
@@STDRACO777 your comment is supported by the fact the three Thousand Sons that were deployed were using their pre heresy unit names (I can’t remember what the TS special word for it is)
We can assume Magnus was cleaning house at worst, or simply getting them out of the way at best
It’s not that surprising when you consider the TS never wanted to turn in the first place
I also love the fact it’s the legion fallen most to Tzeentch. Slaanesh and Khorne HATE and contradict eachother, but Tzeentch? He is compatible with her, arguably the most of all the chaos gods and even his Legionnaires chose death just to spite her favourite toy and save an enemy from corruption by her.
He had it on a projector and all of the Thousand Sons were watching and cheering like the final rap battle in 8 Mile
Magnus then broadcasts it to the emperor
*The real Fulgrim would be proud at Rylanor's display. The Daemon Pretending to be him is still crying.*
As of reflection crack'd fulgrim is fulgrim
@@bartu913 *That shitty book is not canon and you cannot change my mind.*
@@konradcurze8942 THANK YOU!!!
@@konradcurze8942 are you truly Konrad Curze?
@@konradcurze8942 thank you Konrad. Love the Night Lords Omnibus
Fulgrim: A well thought out and chaos true tested speech about how rylanor should join him again
Rylanor: Don't care+didn't ask+cry about it+stay mad+get real+ L+Mald+seethe+cope.
Fulgrim: b-but You have too.
Rylanor Woe, Bomb be upon ye.
"Have you heard of our lord and savior *bomb?*"
Alternatively. Rylanor: "Don't want it, didn't ask for it, GO FUCK YOURSELF."
"We've been trying to contact you about your virus bombs *extended warranty!* "
Rylanor: Your free trial of existence has expired. And I deleted your accounts.
Parents: Accusing child of breaking something.
Child: Speaks in half truths to not invite alarm.
Parents: Sees through his words and are not disarmed.
@@silverbladeofnorth7345 Parents who know their kid is an expert liar: Even your words may be twisted and turned into weapons.
@@silverbladeofnorth7345 I will know the name of he who has me in his sights
@@inquisitorsteve1429 I am the parent who has you in their sight
@@superspicy8740 All at once, the pieces come together in my mind; This place was Dads garage!
@@inquisitorsteve1429 And I am here upon his car, on the work that was left behind!
“-and so it falls to me to end the prodigal son.”
I don’t know why but I love that line
the mythic way warhammer presents its story always makes me love it. Using a primarchs title instead of their name adds to that mythic image
What gives me shivers is the line: "I am the one who remembers, the Ancient of Rites!"
He couldn't kill , or even injure fulgrim by doing what he did , and yet he managed to strike a wound in fulgrim's pride
Fulgrim , a being practically made out of energy provided by the GOD of pride , being told by one of his wisest friends and favorite songs that he's a disgrace and am abomination.
He may not have even mildly bruised fulgrim , but managed to put a gaping hole In fulgrim's greatest armor ... His pride.
Ave imperator , old one. May your rest be peaceful.
And may your sacrifice be remembered
I had never heard of the tale of Rylanor. But once I did, I remembered an ancient ritual, held at Quan Zhou. Once a year, a feast is held. Two thirds of the food is burned in a great fire pit. The burnt food is killed in the act and sent to the realm of the dead, supposedly.
This year, I witnessed a great stag burning in the fire. And I knew that the Ancient Rylanor, Venerable of the Palatine Host, eats well in the afterlife.
Let us hope, if the legion of the damned is, in fact, those who were betrayed on isstvan, that he joins his brothers in arms against those who betrayed them. For one day, fulgrim may find himself face to face with the ancient of rights one last time.
Rylanor didnt manage to kill him, but he hurt Fulgrim so bad he left *emotional damage*
the true image of the Emperor's Children
The funny thing is, Slaanesh greater demons fuel almost entirely on emotional extremes. But Rylanors ultimate gut punch will prevent from ever truly feeling accomplished or truly prideful. Meaning that emotional damage was most likely why he hasn't been as active throughout the current story.
@@robloxplayer0003 and he damaged the pride of PRIDE INCARNATE, and not just damage, injure permanently
Given the metaphysics of the setting, he truly wounded his primarch far more than killing his physical body ever could. Fulgrim is now cursed with a permanent stat penalty (-10% on all rolls _at least_ by my reckoning).
@@velvetdraws3452 he CRACKED Fulgrim, he didn't just wound him he scarred him
@@robloxplayer0003Rylanor was Fulgrim's first true failure after his ascension into a daemon prince.
He got what he wanted out of the heresy, the clones of ferrus are an ongoing project but Rylanor renounced Fulgrim forever. Such a wound to his pride is enough to weaken him, as a daemon prince of slaanesh.
The mental image of the withered and decrepid body in that dreadnought's shell, machine tendrils burrowing into flesh and keeping him in torturous near-life yet still screaming lyrical defiance to the Primarch is.. quite something.
When you think about it, by wounding Fulgrim’s pride in such a way, Rylanor permanently weakened him, as the chaos god Fulgrim served, and thus Fulgrim, feeds on pride. By hurting that, Fulgrim is hurt in a way no amount of daemonic energy will ever heal.
That is the beauty of this tragic tale
This right here is how you kick a demon primarch's ass without grey knights or plot armour.
Wounding the pride of a daemon of narcissism would cut deeper than any Force Weapon or anti-daemon magic.
@@vitharakhay8198 Krillin: "SHOTS FIRED!"
By overplaying him in his own scheme, maybe?
Imagine being so noble and good, you manage to, through words not directed at them and actions that will lead to his death, manage to turn a chaos space marine to your side, even if he knows his own actions will destroy himself.
a light in the grimdark future, now snuffed out. his last stand, unremembered by all except the one he spited with his last moments
Rylanor is the embodiment of everything Chaos fears in humanity.
@@Schinak YES! EXACTLY!
To be fair, he and the other two are TS. It's not like dying means they're dead; Magnus will just revive them on the planet of the sorcerers. It IS however a giant "FUCK YOU" to Fulgrim.
@Middle Earth DEA tzeench probably had Magnus send the marines for the sole purpose of giving him an excuse to rag on slaanesh.
@@scotcheggable Just as Planned. Tzeentch hates Slaanesh.
The thing is, is that in the 40k wiki for Fulgrim, there is the chronological order of things for Fulgrim's involvement. The final event is "The Second Death of Isstvan III", which is this song's events. The end of the section of the page basically states that Fulgrim's ego was shattered. This means that Rylanor had dealt such an emotional blow to Fulgrim that he basically is unable to do what he had devoted himself to slannesh to, being egotistic.
Fulgrim got so fucked up by Rylanor, ever since their confrontation he’s just been playing pretend on his homeworld with captured slaves. I would just love a moment where the Emperor send out a bit of his influence to have the slaves start chanting out “THE ANCIENT AWAITS!” Just to fuck with the snake.
@@zachscarbrough2727 that would the most epic thing after this moment
@@hackzgames3468imagine Rylanor comes back as a Imperial saint, and just goes: Where the fuck is Fulgrim, I'm finishing the job.
@@Talmond you just see the custodis giving him one of there dreadnauths while guilliman screames oh and say him guilliman send his regarts
@@Gneisenau1935 nah, he just comes back as a Dreadnought sized Space Marine.
You can almost sense Fulgrim knew about Rylanor for much longer he was just working on his perfect speech to counter whatever Rylanor was to say and Rylanor just goes "No, i have Virus bomb enjoy"
More like Fulgrim made the most perfect speech as expected. And Rylanor replied "Bitch"
Rylanor: I have virus bomb your argument is invalid
Fulgrim: Any last words
Rylanor: This Primarch SUCKS I go to BED
I'm pretty sure that Fulgrim was waiting for someone else to arrive in response to the beacon, so that he could have an audience for his meeting with Rylanor.
@@jackbaxter2223 True, that WOULD be to in tact with slaaneshi dickery.
As Rylanor dies Khorne was probably screaming into the void "Dibs! I call dibs!"
I feel like it would be more like EVERYONE would calling dibs or cheering
Khorne for the sheer essence of badass of a man who not just stood up to a primarch, but Slaanesh’s daemon primarch.
Nurgle for how hard he upheld his traditions and ideals.
Tzeentch for the way he broke the routine of corruption by converting TRAITORS back to loyalists in the face of a daemon primarch who’s aspects involves corruption and temptation, let alone being his own primarch.
The Emperor for obvious reasons.
Cegorach for the absolute beauty of this dramatic, tragic, but inspiring story, on top of spiting Slaanesh.
Hell even Gork and Mork would approve for just how crazy the fight was and the boom that followed.
@@quox3987 i just imagine an auction between the emperor, the chaos gods, cegorach, gork and mork all trying to bid for the soul of rylanor with whatever currency or item of value they have
:::khorne sitting on his throne, watching this all go down on his giant-screen Aetheric tv:::
"YEAH BITCH, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!! REVENGE TASTES GOOD, DON'T IT!!!" as popkhorne flies all over the place and he spills his drink....
We all know he's part of the Legion of the Damned now, waiting to give burning warp vengeance on Fulgrim. He will get his hands into that wounded pride and rip him apart in the End Times.
@@deeznuts-kw6yv itd just be a giant game of Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth-Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker that is somehow turned into an ULTRA-GAME
I hope to one day see Fulgrim's clone confront his Chaos counterpart after learning of Rylanor's death and say the words: "How could you?"
Fulgrim would not survive this. As a being of Chaos, it would legitimately end him to have his own self deny him.
I’m sorry fulgrims clone??
@@magoichi75 Oh my sweet summer child...
This would be the battle of the ages. I would weep to see Clone Fulgrim throw all of Rylanor’s accusations at Chaos Fulgrim face.
Please happen that would be such a great character moment
Rylanor was a badass but Vistario (the chaos marine) deserves some recognition too, in the book he turned around looked at his squad, said nothing and shoot the guy stopping the virus bomb from going off, pretty cool
The thousand sons were reading each other minds, when Vistario shoot all three of them were fine whit the outcome.
@@agentkronos6438
Nice.
@@agentkronos6438that's even better since they all collectively agree that Rylanor is just that badass that they are willing to die to kill that bitch Fulgrim
@@agentkronos6438 This. They all agreed in that moment.
@@MrSuperawesome5000 also if you make a bit of logic none of them would survive; why? Because fucking Demoni Primarch Fulgrim was there, not much chance's of survival there
*"To trike you down, i have waited for a million nights!"*
That line sends shivers down my spine.
I’d love for TTSverse to read this story. Let Magnus know his son’s sacrifice and Big E hear of Rylanor’s Titan sized tungsten balls.
Rylenor: "Hey Fulgrim!"
Fulgrim: "Yes?"
(Rylenor raises up virus bomb)
Rylenor: "FUCK YOU!!"
(smashes virus bomb into Fulgrim's face)
You mean the adamantium-cermite alloy i just happened to invent?
@@the_emperor_of_mankind *Yes Your Holiness*
Knowing them, it would be animated as a cutaway gag
Big E: "THE SHEER AUDACITY OF FULGRIM TO BETRAY ME AND KEEP THE NAME, IS THERE ANYTHING LOYAL ABOUT THAT SELF CENTERED PIECE OF SHIT AND HIS LEGION?"
Kitten: "Weeeeell..."
(cutaway to Istvaan 3, Saul Tarvitz and the last loyalists fighting the traitors)
Saul: "BY THE THRONE, HOLD THE LINE! THESE UNFABULOUS CRETINS MUST PERISH!"
(Cutaway with explosions over to Rylanor and Fulgrim with the virus bomb floating due to Tzeentchian warp fuckery, held up by the sorcerers in the background)
Rylanor: "HEY, FULGRIM!"
Fulgrim: *"Yeeeees?~"*
(Zooms in to Rylanor's face)
Rylenor: *"FFFFACKH YOU!!"*
The sorceror: yeah, he's got a point.
(The sorcerer stops holding the bomb, letting it detonate, engulfing everything.)
It would have been awesome if they just kept the song but was animated the same style as text to speech when it ends. The emperor would simply say “He lives up to his legion’s name.” Magnus simply agrees and asks to be excused to at the very least set up something to screw with Fulgrim further
Rylanor: waits a million nights.
Fulgrim: walks up casually. " Hey."
Rylanor: " Hey, lean closer, I got something to tell you."
Fulgrim: Does a whole dance over there, leaning over and cupping his ear in his hand.
Rylanor: " Bitch."
Nice.
this is written like a TTS bit and i love it
Laughed my ass off reading that XD
fulgrim: look my body, I can restore you back, and we will together get glory (and spirit stones to schlick)
rylanor: virus bomb goes BOOOOOOOOOOOOM
I CAST BOMB
This is basically just 6 minutes of people failing speech checks against rylanor.
Sorceror: (lie) “We’re not actually traitors.”
Rylanor: [FAILED] “I see through your words, and I am not disarmed!”
Fulgrim: [speech] “think of all the unfulfilled glories we’d see to!”
Rylanor: [FAILED] “that you still think I seek any glory betrays the true blindness that has overcome you!”
Fulgrim: [speech] “you cannot imagine the beautiful bounties of chaos!”
Rylanor: [FAILED] “those things I’d never even wish to know!”
He managed to see through the trickery of a sorceror of tzeench and resisted the temptations of the primarch of slaanesh.
The thousand sons didn't seem to feel anything bad about rylanor
They only went for half truths
It was said that Rylanor could always tell when someone is lying to him. So tryinv to lie to him will always result in a failed speech check
@@isauldron4337the thousand sons didn’t really want to fall to chaos they did it as their only hope of stopping their mutations whereas the emperors children fell hard and are basically true believers
@@jameson1239 yeah
Poor thousand sons
@@jameson1239and where also forced by the wolf
Send by Horus that detourned the emperor message to bring Magnus to him into killing Magnus and his sons.
I think they are one of the traitor legion that have the most chance to return to the imperium, if they are given the chance after taking care of the rubric issues