Really hate how they disregard the fact that Russell Case from the first movie committed his aircraft into the primary weapon forfeiting his life and destroyed the ship completely. No mention of that hero in the second movie aye🤤
You see his name on the rebuilt Washington monument at the beginning that’s it though,what sticks out for me is when they shoot the alien at Area 51 Whitmore says they are travelling planet to planet there whole civilisation,how could they then have an even bigger ship just sitting around with the queen in surely she would have taken her ship the first time round and attacked earth? Also seems like they had different priorities,first film was natural resources second film they wanted the earths core but they also lead us to believe one ship landed and went after the earths core but surely that kind of info would have been relayed in the first film when attacking the mother ship?
@@Makeitso2023 Well they don't necessarily need all the resources in the balance that occurs naturally. The smaller ships may go for genetic material and maybe some other near surface resources such as gems and crystals. Maybe even the large block of super clear ice in Antarctica could be valuable and hard to artificially synthesise. The volume of a core is vastly larger than the volume of the crust, so you probably don't need to rip the core out of every planet you visit. There is no point sending enough equipment to do so if you are just going to strip a couple of km of the surface. Alternatively the first ships could be sent to do prep work, or determine whether it is even worth going to a particular site. The ship drilling could have been a pilot/sampling drill, rather than harvesting in earnest. Before committing a harvester to the planet they might want to make sure that the core consists of what they expect and there are not likely to be any technical hiccups. They then decided to send a harvester to deal with humans before they became more of a threat, hence the change of priorities. If they went to the effort of sending a harvester anyway they might as do the core. As for whether the information would have been available in the first film? It is very plausible that it would not be. Fog of war and all that. Not inconceivable that a pilot grunt did not 100% grasp how their resource harvesting worked, and even if they did the glimpse into their mind may not have been clear on the details. Not going to lie, that seemed like one of the more reasonable parts of the plot!
@@Makeitso2023I think the first time the Harvesters came they maybe planned to strip the surface of resources slowly after killing us off to ensure no resources were lost or wasted. The first time they came they thought we were primitive so they didn’t think of going all out. However after we beat them the first time they realized we were a threat so they scrapped the plan to slowly strip-mine Earth and just went full force “blow the damn planet up and harvest what’s left afterwards” even though that risked the destruction of some potential resources.
Boy howdy it sure was convenient for the CGI department of this movie that those fusion bombs that were said to have a blast radius of several HUNDRED miles only made a dinky little explosion that didn't even fill the shield or kill the little fighter ships still inside it. They didn't even turn the ground beneath the big ship into a crater of molten glass like you'd expect from a yield that could probably be measured in teratons! What a happy outcome...
Can y’all stop crapping on this film? It was made as a dumb summer disaster blockbuster, and that’s what we got. I personally think this movie is almost as good as the original Independence Day
@@TrickyPJM752 The reason why people were disappointed by this is because the sequel missed many opportunities compared to the first one. The first movie is a homage to all classic B Movie alien invasion films and UFOlogy, while the sequel is bought nothing new to the table as it took any elements from pop culture sci-fi literatures, such as Star Wars, Star Trek, Destiny, Halo, the Alien Franchise, and Starcraft.
@@DaRkLoRdZoRc You and @Jurassic Hero are just ignorant and are believing everything the internet told you about the movie. I bet you didn’t even watch it
@@TrickyPJM752 It's because he isn't much older than Jeff Goldblum in real life. In in the original movie they used makeup to make him look older than what he was.
He did however cause severe damage to the Queen’s personal shields. So what probably could have taken hours to take down, he gradually reduced the amount of power needed to destroy the shields.
@@logandexter931 and given how close the queen got to getting away with the sphere, its likely they would *not* have had hours to spare breaking that shield.
@@logandexter931cinematically speaking it’s meaningless. It’s like in Halo Reach when Jorge blows up the Covenant Supercarrier and then it’s replaced by an entire fleet.
I know a lot of people give this movie a hard time, and I can understand why, but I really liked it. Even the really bad corny cheesy parts were good to me (so bad they're good type stuff). I had a lot of fun and continue to do so when I watch this. Yeah it's not as good as the original but... I still enjoyed it
I'd always assumed the reason the explosion wasn't larger and didn't fill the entire shield dome, was because the queens ship' shield held back the majority of the explosion for an instant before failing, thus reducing the blast? A similar scene takes place in the new Dune film, where House Harkonnen's bombs penetrate the shields of the ships that are parked on the surface, the bombs essentially drill through the shield, then detonate inside the shield, destroying the ship, but the detonation engulfs the ship first, then the shield fails.
Everyone: This movie was garbage because the story was horrible and lacked logic! Me who enjoyed it because I was immersed in the action and didn’t care if it lacked logic or not: 😬 uhhhhh am I weird?
@@jackraider1039yeah it wasn’t that bad but it’s just I didn’t like the atmosphere. I was expecting the atmosphere to not be like Star Wars but like the original film. The aliens 👽 always showing up didn’t give out that feeling of mystery or intimidation
This is not a movie that withstands intensive analytical thinking very well. But that's OK. Check your brain at the door, get a jumbo popcorn, candy, and drinks, and just enjoy the show. It's escapist fun, no need for it to be a paragon of rigorously analytically correct tactical and strategic warfighting against an incomprehensibly superior alien adversary.
1:45 Former President Thomas Whitmore: that's right we got you on behalf of the Planet Earth Happy 4th of July
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Still the best scene and line in the ENTIRE movie!! I only come back to watch this scene
@@plaguedoctor605 Jeff Goldblum and Bill Pullman were the best parts of this film
@@TrickyPJM752 oh most definitely, but you can't deny that that line was awesome!!
I really like the independence day resurgence when Mr Thomas Whitmore is to suicide. And his daughter is flying in the jet plane
Really hate how they disregard the fact that Russell Case from the first movie committed his aircraft into the primary weapon forfeiting his life and destroyed the ship completely. No mention of that hero in the second movie aye🤤
In the words of my people, UP YOURSSSSSSS
You see his name on the rebuilt Washington monument at the beginning that’s it though,what sticks out for me is when they shoot the alien at Area 51 Whitmore says they are travelling planet to planet there whole civilisation,how could they then have an even bigger ship just sitting around with the queen in surely she would have taken her ship the first time round and attacked earth? Also seems like they had different priorities,first film was natural resources second film they wanted the earths core but they also lead us to believe one ship landed and went after the earths core but surely that kind of info would have been relayed in the first film when attacking the mother ship?
@@Makeitso2023 Well they don't necessarily need all the resources in the balance that occurs naturally. The smaller ships may go for genetic material and maybe some other near surface resources such as gems and crystals. Maybe even the large block of super clear ice in Antarctica could be valuable and hard to artificially synthesise. The volume of a core is vastly larger than the volume of the crust, so you probably don't need to rip the core out of every planet you visit. There is no point sending enough equipment to do so if you are just going to strip a couple of km of the surface. Alternatively the first ships could be sent to do prep work, or determine whether it is even worth going to a particular site. The ship drilling could have been a pilot/sampling drill, rather than harvesting in earnest. Before committing a harvester to the planet they might want to make sure that the core consists of what they expect and there are not likely to be any technical hiccups. They then decided to send a harvester to deal with humans before they became more of a threat, hence the change of priorities. If they went to the effort of sending a harvester anyway they might as do the core.
As for whether the information would have been available in the first film? It is very plausible that it would not be. Fog of war and all that. Not inconceivable that a pilot grunt did not 100% grasp how their resource harvesting worked, and even if they did the glimpse into their mind may not have been clear on the details.
Not going to lie, that seemed like one of the more reasonable parts of the plot!
The actor got blacklisted for some reason.
@@Makeitso2023I think the first time the Harvesters came they maybe planned to strip the surface of resources slowly after killing us off to ensure no resources were lost or wasted. The first time they came they thought we were primitive so they didn’t think of going all out. However after we beat them the first time they realized we were a threat so they scrapped the plan to slowly strip-mine Earth and just went full force “blow the damn planet up and harvest what’s left afterwards” even though that risked the destruction of some potential resources.
Boy howdy it sure was convenient for the CGI department of this movie that those fusion bombs that were said to have a blast radius of several HUNDRED miles only made a dinky little explosion that didn't even fill the shield or kill the little fighter ships still inside it. They didn't even turn the ground beneath the big ship into a crater of molten glass like you'd expect from a yield that could probably be measured in teratons! What a happy outcome...
Can y’all stop crapping on this film? It was made as a dumb summer disaster blockbuster, and that’s what we got. I personally think this movie is almost as good as the original Independence Day
@@TrickyPJM752 "Can y’all stop crapping on this film?"
No.
"this movie is almost as good as the original Independence Day"
No.
Yeah, the bomb that powerful would vaporize an entire ship into atoms, luckily, the Queen is still alive thanks to her personal shields.
@@TrickyPJM752 The reason why people were disappointed by this is because the sequel missed many opportunities compared to the first one. The first movie is a homage to all classic B Movie alien invasion films and UFOlogy, while the sequel is bought nothing new to the table as it took any elements from pop culture sci-fi literatures, such as Star Wars, Star Trek, Destiny, Halo, the Alien Franchise, and Starcraft.
@@DaRkLoRdZoRc You and @Jurassic Hero are just ignorant and are believing everything the internet told you about the movie. I bet you didn’t even watch it
2:00 I do like how they played the theme from the first scene of the original movie
I wish they incorporated more of the soundtracks from the first film, that definitely would’ve made the film a little bit better
You can tell which celebrities spend their wages on liquor
Yeah you like that??
That's how they get you - with nostalgia bait. This film is an abomination of a creation. Should never have been made.
@@w33btrash69 I know it is, I just choose to enjoy the small moments of an abhorrent film
Jeff Goldblum, Bill Pullman, and poor Robert Loggia all look 20 years older. I think Judd Hirsch is immortal.
When I saw the movie right after watching the first film, it looked like he didn’t age a day considering the film came out 20 years later
I call it the Dorian Grey Pact
I believe they use make out to make him look older 20 years ago and now he looks his age. But
@@TrickyPJM752 It's because he isn't much older than Jeff Goldblum in real life. In in the original movie they used makeup to make him look older than what he was.
he is in the new HIGHLANDER ?
The most meaningless death since they don’t even kill the queen
He did however cause severe damage to the Queen’s personal shields. So what probably could have taken hours to take down, he gradually reduced the amount of power needed to destroy the shields.
@@logandexter931 and given how close the queen got to getting away with the sphere, its likely they would *not* have had hours to spare breaking that shield.
@@logandexter931cinematically speaking it’s meaningless. It’s like in Halo Reach when Jorge blows up the Covenant Supercarrier and then it’s replaced by an entire fleet.
What if the Independence Day aliens watched star wars
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I know a lot of people give this movie a hard time, and I can understand why, but I really liked it. Even the really bad corny cheesy parts were good to me (so bad they're good type stuff). I had a lot of fun and continue to do so when I watch this. Yeah it's not as good as the original but... I still enjoyed it
Just me, or would have been better if instead of him saying, I’m saving you to I’m saving my baby girl?
0:23 damn the engines sound cool
Heduur-duur-durr! SoUNd CoOl DurR.
You are the problem with why modern day films are fucking shit
I'd always assumed the reason the explosion wasn't larger and didn't fill the entire shield dome, was because the queens ship' shield held back the majority of the explosion for an instant before failing, thus reducing the blast?
A similar scene takes place in the new Dune film, where House Harkonnen's bombs penetrate the shields of the ships that are parked on the surface, the bombs essentially drill through the shield, then detonate inside the shield, destroying the ship, but the detonation engulfs the ship first, then the shield fails.
The idea the aliens can have a personal energy shield that can deflect a Nuclear explosion to the face, is stretching it even for SciFi.
thats why will smith didn't do it. He knew its a shit movie
@@NataliaYaremchuk0816no that was a "that movie sucked"
@@NataliaYaremchuk0816do you understand the difference between a shit movie and a nostalgic movie? It would still have been shit with him on it
@@NataliaYaremchuk0816whatever dude
Not really you need one to travel through space
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Proof that sequels usually suck
Young President Biden at the controls of the plane
The Solid Dome Firmament implication!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone: This movie was garbage because the story was horrible and lacked logic!
Me who enjoyed it because I was immersed in the action and didn’t care if it lacked logic or not: 😬 uhhhhh am I weird?
Yes you are, but don't worry about it... everyone's weird in some way. {:-)
@@InternetGravediggerthanks man really gives me some self confidence.
This movie is really awesome
This is the only best part
I'll give it a 8 out of 10. Because the script was a little bonkers and second it just felt lifeless without Will Smith.
@@jackraider1039yeah it wasn’t that bad but it’s just I didn’t like the atmosphere. I was expecting the atmosphere to not be like Star Wars but like the original film. The aliens 👽 always showing up didn’t give out that feeling of mystery or intimidation
@@Cyber-Lee_0007 It would have been a lot better if The script was stronger and more fateful to the original.
@@jackraider1039 agree
Quite possibly the shittiest film I've seen. It's like a superbowl commercial.
All right your opinion i guess
I personally thought the movie was very close to being as good as the first film, people only crap on this film just because critics didn’t like it
Am I weird for enjoying it ☹️
Lol
@@brummyuk2151yeah the first one is more believable
Excelente filme
so... not only is it a US holiday, but they decided to make it a holiday for the entire planet... you have to be egocentric much
Joe Biden: "USA President Tricked by Alien Harvester Queen Scene". Adds: "Hey, wait! This doesn't look like New Orleans!"
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I liked the original version in Armageddon better.
i dont think Biden would ever do this if he was in this circumstances
He doesn't even know where the Hell he is half the time!
And Cadet Bone Spurs would?
This is not a movie that withstands intensive analytical thinking very well. But that's OK. Check your brain at the door, get a jumbo popcorn, candy, and drinks, and just enjoy the show. It's escapist fun, no need for it to be a paragon of rigorously analytically correct tactical and strategic warfighting against an incomprehensibly superior alien adversary.
Good point
People want escapist fun, but have become so embittered that they demand escapism be more in line with reality, which defeats the purpose of escapism.
Same with the first one
@@KingDonaldFirstofhisnameno, the first one is more "realistic" and consistent
@@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor "more realistic" for sure. But still not very realistic at all.
Stop exploding you cowards!!
This is sucied mission big big crazy president send the sucied drone next time not human in this ship..lol!!
This movie was so unnecessary. It marks also the begining of the worst remakes, remades, sequels from Hollywood!
such a dumb movie
1:47 - The only redeeming scene in this otherwise dumpster fire of a movie. "Happy 4th of July!" and then the music of the first movie....