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  • @mihaid4954
    @mihaid4954 10 місяців тому +5

    Random thought, but how cool would it be to be able to get the Ashbringer during SoD, with all the steps done during Vanilla, and somehow intertwining it with Scarlet Monastery 🤔🤔🤔

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому +1

      That would be so cool! :D

  • @benwallychow
    @benwallychow 10 місяців тому +11

    If armory/cathedral are unlocked in phase 2, we'll be spending so much time in SM that having the raid also be SM in phase 3 seems like too much SM.... I hope its either locked off in season 2, or season 3 raid is different or an even more different version of SM than you're suggesting.

    • @wizarddaddy47
      @wizarddaddy47 10 місяців тому +4

      This is a very good point, i want to see more done with the scarlet crusade as a whole; it breathes classic

    • @MDHDH-iy7nm
      @MDHDH-iy7nm 10 місяців тому +1

      I hope its some kind of chapel/church in west Tirisfal
      Maybe its not a whole new landmass but an entire instanced raid that you walk through and its open like a Tyr's hand type area

    • @ForbiddenFollyFollower
      @ForbiddenFollyFollower 10 місяців тому +1

      Since it will be level 50 they could put a raid in western plague lands. They could tie it in with SM by replacing all the iconic bosses in SM with generic ones that have different and more interesting mechanics and then use improved versions of the SM bosses in hearthglen as a new raid. It's twice as much work though so probably won't happen.

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      I will go back and check to see if it is still closed off! :D We'll have to see...

  • @sympathie539
    @sympathie539 10 місяців тому +5

    i think that the SM and Kara raid in P3 and P4 are gonna be new instances (obv for kara) so i think the SM raid is gonna be in the area WPL up north with thos scarlet mobs

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      Ooh a Hearthglen Raid could be super cool :D

    • @Raphxx59
      @Raphxx59 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Jediwarlock I'm only leveling on SoD for SM and Kara raid, I really hope its not fake :D

  • @Maxvla
    @Maxvla 10 місяців тому +1

    Blizzard has updated scarlet monastery items in the game files (we know via datamining) to stats better for SoD. These items are still the same level required as they are now. Blizzard wouldn't update SM items, then change them again later for a level 50 raid version of SM, and are unlikely to make SM a raid at any point of SoD.

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      Good point... my theory has now been disproven in Phase 2 but that's ok :)

  • @General12th
    @General12th 10 місяців тому +6

    *Jedi:* _Uploads a video._
    *Blizzard:* "Write that down! WRITE THAT DOWN!"

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому +1

      XD that would be great!

  • @glk96_
    @glk96_ 10 місяців тому +1

    I believe that Scarlet Monastery raid will take place after Naxx. With the implementation of a legendary quest where we need to cleanse corrupted ashbringer to get the Legendary Ashbringer. It doesnt seems unreal to me and pretty accurate with the lore I guess?

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  9 місяців тому

      I'd love to see that! :D

    • @lauridsen1381
      @lauridsen1381 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Jediwarlock idk why everyone wants sm to be the scarlet crusade raid. We literally have strath live with the ACTUAL LEADER of the scarlet crusade. It also had a bunch of more interesting bosses to turn into raid encounters. A whole new one would also be welcome in like Tyr's Hand or Hearthglen, but like we literally have one more raid with scarlet crusaders that is both canonically and gameplay wise more grand than sm. Let's wait for that place to be the raid

  • @QurikOfficial
    @QurikOfficial 10 місяців тому +2

    More likely a scarlet raid in western or eastern plaguelands. Hearthglen and Tyr’s Hand as well as Stratholme all have a significant Scarlet presence.
    SM could something at 40 though

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      I like those ideas too! :)

  • @nakenmil
    @nakenmil 10 місяців тому +2

    I have no idea, but I enjoy the theorycrafting!

  • @empmagiccamera2591
    @empmagiccamera2591 10 місяців тому +2

    If they add the Kara Crypts without bringing it to retail, that's gonna piss off a lot of people.

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому +1

      Haha true!! We've been waiting so long!

  • @maxwellhoffman7712
    @maxwellhoffman7712 10 місяців тому +1

    Release it halfway through phase 2 and make it harder. With the gear from Gnomer it will be easy, but if you skip Gnomer, you’ll struggle. With no phase 1, they could have released another raid easily and it would have been hype.

  • @ExValeFor
    @ExValeFor 10 місяців тому +12

    Library and Graveyard are so forgettable that I think if they do make a SM raid, it's definitely gonna have to be the Herod and Whitemane/Mograine show. The logic checks out

    • @wizarddaddy47
      @wizarddaddy47 10 місяців тому +3

      They would expand library and graveyard and/or combine elements of both just as they changed BFD

    • @Jacknorrington
      @Jacknorrington 10 місяців тому +1

      @@wizarddaddy47 or, since blizzard showed us in blizzcon (if you pause the video you see abilities for them such as Howling Blast, Path of Arthas, and Horn of Lordaeron on both classes) that pallys and warriors are getting frost/unholy DK abilities as runes, i would say that it's probably going to be something with the DK starting zone. It seems like they fully intend on bringing death knights into SOD in the later phases, or at least letting those classes experiment with death knight abilities. The raid could be based around New Avalon/Hearthglen, and basically be a bigger group effort of the death knight starter zone. That's just my theory about it

    • @Seeric85
      @Seeric85 10 місяців тому +1

      Graveyard could be cool if they incorporate the 3 rare bosses.

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому +1

      Agreed! I also like having kind of a two-part progression if they keep the Scarlet Key where you need to clear the dungeon half of the Monastery before going into the raid for the final battles. :)

    • @ffarkasm
      @ffarkasm 10 місяців тому +1

      @@wizarddaddy47 Really? Library is actually the most diversified part of the four. Armory is boring af on the other hand. Just dull generic corridors, and only one boss in the whole isntance. That's forgetable.

  • @tsulong
    @tsulong 10 місяців тому +2

    I would love a scarlet monastery raid, it's my favorite classic dungeon (dungeons?) but like you said, they would have to do some work to make it viable as a raid

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      It's super iconic... we'll see what Blizz does with it! :D

  • @Turnkey_BM
    @Turnkey_BM 10 місяців тому +1

    They are going to use the unused area in Eastern Plaguelands for the SCARELT CRUSADE raid, while keeping SM open for leveling.

    • @archivey-h8e
      @archivey-h8e 10 місяців тому +2

      Level 50's running to EPL would be a bit much.

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      That would be pretty awesome!!

  • @Deavhrmordhau
    @Deavhrmordhau 10 місяців тому +1

    Waiting room for Project Epoch

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      Epoch looks awesome!!! I hope it is successful :)

  • @mumiusgaming1267
    @mumiusgaming1267 10 місяців тому

    I hope some sort of SM raid comes into play at lv60. Imagine this: the raid having something to do with the corrupted ashbringer event. Maybe going on a journey for the cleansing of the weapon or search for the way to cleanse it.
    Obv then forcing every raid to have at least 1 corrupted ashbringer holder in the group would be a bit much.
    But they could just make some sort of attunement which requires you to kill 4hm in naxx.

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      That would be INCREDIBLE! :D

  • @hotlikesauce
    @hotlikesauce 10 місяців тому +2

    am I going to crazy?? I coulda sworn they teased an Uldaman picture as well?? it’s far more fitting with the old god story they’ve pushed out in P1.
    regardless, an SM raid would be highly welcomed. I’m almost certain it would be 2 condensed wings, as opposed to 4. no reason it can’t be 1 though.
    I’d be pleasantly surprised if it’s a littler longer than BFD, but I might be in the minority saying that haha.

    • @86Damacy
      @86Damacy 10 місяців тому +1

      Would be nice to have 2 SM lock outs to do, instead of 1.

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      Maybe I missed that Uldaman pic but that would be a great option as well! :D

  • @phuzzychinn
    @phuzzychinn 10 місяців тому

    I can see the logic behind making it a raid... if the dungeon wasn't so crucial for leveling. Taking Scarlet Monastrey out of the pool of level 30-40 dungeons leaves only Razorfen Kraul and Gnomeregon OH WAIT THAT'S THE PHASE 2 RAID.
    And since the level cap for Phase 3 is 50, more than likely the raid will either be Razorfen Downs (a unique enemy type of the Quilboar for the raid themes of Classic since the original level 60 raids are Fire Elementals, Dragons, Trolls, Old Gods, Undead, and the SoD raids are Naga+Old God Cultists, then Gnomes and Machines) or potentially Mauradon for the centaur, satyrs and the final boss being an earth elemental.

    • @Jacknorrington
      @Jacknorrington 10 місяців тому

      well, the issue is that they confirmed that the pictures shown at blizzcon were all for the new raids, so we 100% know that theres something about the scarlet monastery that is going to be the level 50 raid, we just don't know what it will be. If they make razorfen downs a raid too, then we won't have any dungeons at all for phase 2. Gnomergon and something in the scarlet monastery are 100% raids, so everyone is going to just be farming the Razorfen dungeons

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      I think Mara would be an awesome raid! :) I like your thoughts... we will see what happens!

  • @Seeric85
    @Seeric85 10 місяців тому +1

    I'd honestly prefer Maraudon or even Sunken Temple, but Monastery would be acceptable.

    • @TheRestedOne
      @TheRestedOne 10 місяців тому

      Swamp of Sorrow has some great world PvP potential, I could definitely see that. I would happily welcome a surprise cut content raid release too.

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      I could see Mara working at level 60 but ST would also be another great option! :)

    • @simiaki12
      @simiaki12 7 місяців тому

      Nice prediction!

  • @KeruptR47
    @KeruptR47 10 місяців тому +1

    SM doesn't make sense for p3 being level 50. If they were going to do SM it needed to be the 40 raid. 50 will be the under kara raid imo. I dont think they'll have a new 60 raid right away since there's so many options at 60 already, they'll let mc and bwl carry some time then introduce something.

    • @Jacknorrington
      @Jacknorrington 10 місяців тому

      well they said that part of SM is going to be a raid and they have confirmed that, so it's not really a theory about it, it seems like under khara is just going to be the level 60 raid we get, otherwise the SM raid is going to be either second raid in one of the phases, or theyre adding a completely different instance

    • @KeruptR47
      @KeruptR47 10 місяців тому

      @@Jacknorrington where did they say and confirm this, I'd love to see it, but have no idea what source you're saying has confirmed this.

    • @Jacknorrington
      @Jacknorrington 10 місяців тому

      @@KeruptR47 twitter, they said that the pictures were what the raids were going to be. Again, that doesn't mean the SM raid will be the level 50 raid, but it does mean it's either the 50 or 60 raid and it's more likely it's for level 50s

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      That's not a bad idea! Keep in mind that Gnomer did get bumped up a bit in terms of level for the P2 raid so I don't think changing the level brackets is totally out of the question. I could be totally wrong tho :)

  • @jimdandy7130
    @jimdandy7130 10 місяців тому +2

    I'm pretty sure it's going to be Sunken Temple. It makes sense based on how they've done phase 1 and 2 with the raids being not so popular instance. Sunken Temple would fit that and also being level 50 they could update the class quest for Sunken Temple to be a really good item. Make a class legendary for the quest.

    • @Jacknorrington
      @Jacknorrington 10 місяців тому +1

      the only issue is that they confirmed that the raids were going to be what they had shared at the end of blizzcon, which are BFD, Gnomergon, SM, and Kharazan Crypts. They confirmed on twitter that they would be the phase raids, so we unless if they want to add two raids for phase 50, then it's just going to be the scarlet monastery

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      ST would be a great option as well :) Very large and lots of bosses!

    • @Maxvla
      @Maxvla 10 місяців тому

      @@Jacknorrington Seems pretty light on confirmation, just having a picture in a montage of locations. If they had it in a typed list it would have more credibility. SM P3 raid doesn't make much sense. Sunken Temple makes a lot more sense, especially if they bump the raid size to 20 like I'm hoping. SM is too small for this, while ST is larger than it needs to be for a 5 man. Multiple floors, lots of bosses, open areas to add even more bosses if they want.

    • @Jacknorrington
      @Jacknorrington 10 місяців тому

      @@Maxvla well it is direct confirmation, they said on twitter that those are the raids, so we know that it will happen. We know that since they haven't shown sunken temple, unless if theyre planning on doing a full swap, then they will not be doing Sunken Temple. They have already confirmed on twitter that the next raid is going to be based on the Scarlet Monastery, it's just up for debate about how they will do it.

  • @Tinto2
    @Tinto2 10 місяців тому

    One of the things i felt that Classic era was always missing was a level 60 Scarlet monastery raid, hopefully they do something good with it!

    • @filipbergendahl3450
      @filipbergendahl3450 10 місяців тому

      Strat living was kind of like that...

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      I'm hoping for it! :D

    • @Tinto2
      @Tinto2 10 місяців тому

      @@filipbergendahl3450 it was yeah, but a 40 man full raid would hit different :P

  • @verihimthered2418
    @verihimthered2418 10 місяців тому +1

    May the horse be with u

  • @wmcarter6096
    @wmcarter6096 10 місяців тому +1

    I don't think they make SM a raid strictly because the Alliance run to the instane is brutal.

    • @kiffy00
      @kiffy00 10 місяців тому +1

      they added a portal to bfd so they can do something similar to SM

    • @wmcarter6096
      @wmcarter6096 10 місяців тому +1

      @@kiffy00 Oh didn't know that. Horde player here.

    • @Jacknorrington
      @Jacknorrington 10 місяців тому +2

      @@wmcarter6096 yeah, since BFD was out of ally way, they added a portal for alliance users to teleport to the top of the raid. They also made it so horde are going to be able to teleport directly into gnomergon so they don't have to run through ally zones just to raid

    • @wmcarter6096
      @wmcarter6096 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Jacknorrington Are they going to add a new portal or keep the one at booty bay?

    • @Jacknorrington
      @Jacknorrington 10 місяців тому

      @@wmcarter6096 we don't know, they just said they would have a portal with protective NPCs to stop the alliance from camping the portal

  • @muzien87
    @muzien87 10 місяців тому

    no they turned off those raids because especially in armory the dog whistle people were raid farming the item for max BFD DPS

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      I have heard that as well... but the Library Wing where you get the dog whistle is still accessible today

  • @YepMarko
    @YepMarko 10 місяців тому

    SM raid is hype and nice,
    about P3 I'm sure Classic Cata will influence that date depend when drop

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      That's a good point! That could definitely impact the schedule.

  • @gherkygaming
    @gherkygaming 10 місяців тому +2

    Sorry to bust this theory but there is some information you obviously didn't have before making this video. The entirety of SM was available at launch. The two instances were closed and that 'level 20' message was placed there midway through SoD to keep players out.

    • @Jacknorrington
      @Jacknorrington 10 місяців тому +2

      that doesn't pop any holes in the theory, Blizzard already admitted that something in the Scarlet Monastery was going to be the phase 3 raid, he is just theorizing about which one it is. They have 100% confirmed that either they are adding another instance for the raids, or combining the dungeons into a raid.

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      Maybe a mistake they only fixed partway through Phase 1? I'm inclined to believe Blizz wouldn't hint at SM at BlizzCon if they didn't have something, but who knows :)

  • @archivey-h8e
    @archivey-h8e 10 місяців тому

    I think it's pretty likely they just re-use the alpha SM. The alpha version was combined just like the raid would be, it also had better textures imo.

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      I agree! Blizz likes to take the path of least resistance and bringing back an old map (and maybe just tweaking it slightly) would be a simple way to make an SM raid.

  • @TheSketis
    @TheSketis 10 місяців тому

    SoD Phase 3 raid is definately gonna be either Zul'Farrak or Sunken Temple.

    • @Jacknorrington
      @Jacknorrington 10 місяців тому

      they said the only raids we're getting are the ones released at blizzcon, so that's only BFD, gnomergon, SM, and under Khara. They said they only have those so far, but there will be more phases after level 60, but Zul'Farrak and Sunken Temple were not one of the ones chosen

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      Both great options as well! :)

  • @quantomstrange
    @quantomstrange 10 місяців тому +1

    SM doesnt make sense bc ppl need those dungeons to level...ST is much more likely to be the raid

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      Good point! :) Phase 2 has now debunked this theory lol

  • @graceybfrg
    @graceybfrg 10 місяців тому +3

    What made them put it, requires level 20 to enter was because Xaryu made a group trying to clear armory but got stopped by Blizzard.

  • @KevinArcade87
    @KevinArcade87 10 місяців тому +1

    The reason why you are unable to go to Cathedral is because bots used to farm in there

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      I bet that is true too!

    • @KevinArcade87
      @KevinArcade87 10 місяців тому

      @@Jediwarlock you could enter at beginning of sod

  • @lennic
    @lennic 10 місяців тому

    Good points bro, now I'm starting to believe SM raid even more

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому +1

      We'll see what happens! I'll be checking those doors again in Phase 2 to see if they're still locked :o

  • @darkopesov721
    @darkopesov721 10 місяців тому

    Maraudon is big for a Raid content so my guess is maraudon for shure for p3 scarlet won't be for shure should have been now p2 but they skiped it.

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      Mara would be a great raid option! :)

  • @josejuanandrade4439
    @josejuanandrade4439 10 місяців тому +3

    That map is never been a secret. It was well know SM was gonna be a high level raid in the Alpha. They changed plans and cut it in 4 and added some hallways to create the 4 new instances instead. There is an old map from the alpha development phase, the one where you can see the Dragon Isles, where you could see the SM labled as raid.
    I think most if not every single people that knew this fact, thought of SM being a raid since the SoD announcement. I don't see it as being a big surprise, but it will be realy neat. Also, i don't think is a theory, more like a fact already.

    • @ribthiefz8283
      @ribthiefz8283 10 місяців тому +5

      Found the redditor

    • @josejuanandrade4439
      @josejuanandrade4439 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ribthiefz8283 I am sorry friend, but what is a "redditor" and why am i one of them?

    • @SONSC
      @SONSC 10 місяців тому +4

      SM is not labeled as raid on that map, why would you even say it "was well known"

    • @archivey-h8e
      @archivey-h8e 10 місяців тому +4

      I think it was just a combined dungeon like usual. I don't think SM was ever planned to be a raid.

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      Hoping it is a fact! I think SM would be super cool as a raid ;)

  • @monster2slayer
    @monster2slayer 10 місяців тому

    i would have preferred scarlet monstary as a raid in p2, sunken temple p3 and BRD p4

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      I do think Gnomer was kinda an out-of-pocket choice for P2 but with it's size and scale I think Blizz will do good things with it. BRD and ST are on my wishlist too!! :D

  • @JarleFlaat
    @JarleFlaat 10 місяців тому +2

    I think BRD would be a better option then SM, maybe even ST. Think about it ST has some huge arenas meant to be for bigger grps (and dragons), could be cool!

    • @ExValeFor
      @ExValeFor 10 місяців тому +1

      ST sucks giga ass so no thanks

    • @ForbiddenFollyFollower
      @ForbiddenFollyFollower 10 місяців тому +2

      They should make every large dungeon a 10 man raid similar to ubrs. Maybe add a new epic or two in each one.

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      ST would be super fitting for a raid! :o

  • @GHIBaal
    @GHIBaal 10 місяців тому

    SM CITADELL
    It would be a waste if they don't make this happening.

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      That would be sweeeet! :D

  • @Arccanos
    @Arccanos 10 місяців тому

    A few?

  • @alexbrooks2235
    @alexbrooks2235 10 місяців тому +1

    I would love a well made BRD level 50 raid, and stratholm 60 raid 😊

    • @theantagonist2147
      @theantagonist2147 10 місяців тому

      BRD, Strat and ZF would make awesome raids, Mara has potential too!

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      BRD and Strat yes!! :D

  • @rotking1
    @rotking1 10 місяців тому

    I don't think we will see a monastery raid just wont make sense leveling with it in phase 2 for it to be the raid in phase 3. I think we will get something scarlett crusade related there is many other places it can be set in. Like Hearthglen

    • @Jacknorrington
      @Jacknorrington 10 місяців тому

      well they confirmed 100% that something in the scarlet monastery will be the raid for level 50, but you're right, I feel like maybe they'll do something with hearthglen or the New Avalon people (the ones you fight in the DK starting zone) and maybe more Scarlet Leaders will be available to fight. Blizzard already has posted on their youtube channel that pally's and warriors will get DK rune abilities, so I assume in phase 3 that warriors and paladins can become death knights

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому

      That's not a bad idea :) I could see Hearthglen or Tyr's Hand becoming a raid in the future :)

  • @kurokamiotaku
    @kurokamiotaku 10 місяців тому +4

    graveyard was locked to stop bots from farming gravemoss... do some basic research bro

    • @Jacknorrington
      @Jacknorrington 10 місяців тому +2

      that doesnt negate the fact that blizzard confirmed that SM would be a raid in phase 3, it's just that we don't know anything about the nature of the scarlet raid. This guy is just theorizing about which dungeons could be part of the raid, since we already know that SM is the raid

    • @kurokamiotaku
      @kurokamiotaku 10 місяців тому +3

      @@Jacknorrington we just know it’s happening at some point, p3 was never confirmed

    • @Jacknorrington
      @Jacknorrington 10 місяців тому +2

      @@kurokamiotaku that is true to some extent, but their exact words were that those were the 4 raids being added for the 4 phases, so either kharazan crypts is the phase 3 raid, or SM, and SM is closer in level (and khara crypts is supposed to be harder than normal kharazan in the lore)

    • @Jediwarlock
      @Jediwarlock  10 місяців тому +2

      At BlizzCon they did show the photo of SM so I am inclined to think it will end up being a raid... makes me wonder if they used the botting as an excuse to close off the two wings prematurely? Maybe they're locking them to keep us out before the raid launches.