Cy Twombly’s Heroic Masterpiece
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
- Cy Twombly’s ‘Untitled’ from 1964 is a major triumph of the artist’s groundbreaking 1960s output. In this episode of Expert Voices, discover the mixture of mark making, handprints and energetic brushstrokes that make up this visceral composition, and learn how living in Rome inspired Twombly to combine past, present and future in a style all his own. ‘Untitled’ is a highlight of our upcoming Modern & Contemporary Art Evening Sale (29 June | London)
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It's interesting what rubbish some people talk in order to sell a piece of art.
I was friends with Cy over his last 35 years, we've talked a lot about his paintings, but he never mentioned anything about the influence of politics - especially not the one of the 20th century.
Doesn't matter. It's the interpretation that matters.
She said you can sense a shift in his work; this can be an entirely subconscious response, so that there is no contradiction between her statement and the fact that he didn't talk to you about it.
Imho they are paid for the gibberish.
@@asadabbasi I‘m afraid you are right.
Politics influences everything. You do not need to explicitly mention them and you'd still be influenced by politics, economics, history, cultural traditions, etc It is unavoidable. And people who say "I'm not political" are plain ignorant. It is political and economic priviledge that allows them to think they a free of such things. Zero insight.
I have this on my refrigerator, my sons a genius.
His folks clearly aren't
@@Lnch4ALion touched you last
@@sb1806 👌
unlikely
😂
Art is an intellectual pursuit of self and our environs. Not to say if you don’t understand a painting you’re not an intellectual; however, if you expect a piece to make sense to you at a glance or for every piece to make sense to you, period, then your approach to art may be lacking. Also, to judge art harshly through a screen is an injustice to the artists and yourself. ❤🤞🏾
I have seen the works of Twombly in galleries and their nonsensicality and lack of any aesthetic merit comes over even more forcefully than on the screen.
Ah such a good say, its just something about excitement of the world and dubiosity that makes a diferent about apreciation , nonjugemential status of knower that work that is noncenc to other still much better then murder or theft, and there has to be better diferentiation then diminishing self trough other.
Say no more Oscar Wilde.
I wouldn't put that on my wall even if they'd pay me
Art is funny. You'd swear this woman was doing a spoof for a comedy show?
she's reading into complete shit it's fascinating, it's like the dude who ductaped a banana to a wall
I wish someone could explain why this great art or even bad art. I just don't get it. These things are probably worth millions.
This is just madness. In the future people will look back at this stuff and find it incredible that in our time people thought it was so valuable and wonderful. Nobody ever explains WHY it is good. They just speak in very broad and simple terms like this commentator does with expressions like black and red having a battle or wonderful "mark making". Where in this painting is there perceptible evidence of an interest of an interest in ancient Roman history and the coliseum.
It's totally about the brand, nothing more nothing less.
That’s a really beautiful question, and one I believe all great artists are constantly asking themselves: “how do I know this isn’t crap?” Or, “is this a good work of art?” If you’re curious, after much thinking and reading and making, here’s my two (admittedly very long) cents:
Lets start here: for something to be good, it has to be good at DOING something. A pen, for example, is only good when it is good at doing what pens do. Okay, so the obvious question is: “what do pens do?” Well, a pen makes lines and marks. So really, when we ask “is this a good pen?” really what we are asking is “is this pen good at doing what pens do, which is making lines and marks?” SO when we ask “is this a good work of art?” we are really asking “is this work of art good at doing what works of art do?”
Okay. So what do works of art do? Our answer has to be broad enough to fit all art, but narrow enough to not include anything that isn’t art. We’re sort of looking for a definition, i guess, which are always based on oppositions. A pen is a pen because it is NOT a car. A car is a car because it is NOT a pen. If our definition of art includes anything, it ceases to be a useful definition.
Because of this, we can start with something that isn’t art: a rock. A rock is something that was not made by a person. Thats our first thing. So let’s look at something made by a person. That will get us closer: a painting.
Let’s imagine a painting of shoes. Good or bad is irrelevant. What is this painting doing? In a way, the painting is showing us a way to look at the world by looking at shoes. By looking at shoes, we can get a lot of information: who the shoes belong to, what they’re used for, etc. The painting stands out against the wall, reaching toward us, and when we look at it, really look, it teaches us a new way to see, and thus, a new way to be.
The shoes, on the other hand, don’t teach us anything. When the shoes are being worn, the wearer probably doesn’t even notice the shoes. They disappear from his mind while they hold him up effortlessly. In fact, the only time the wearer notices the shoes is when something is wrong with them. So while the painting calls to us to show us a way to see, the shoes disappear while they are being used.
Hey wait that looks like an opposition. A perfect one. If art can both stand out and show us some way to be, and also it can disappear to not show us anything, then we don’t have a useful definition. Where equipment like a shoe disappears and exists only for its use, a painting calls to us to show us a way of looking at the world, a way of being. Art, calls to us, and shows us a way of being. THAT is what art does.
After this long, winding journey, we finally get back to our original question: “is this work of art good at doing what art does?” Let’s rephrase this with what we now know “is this work of art good at: giving us a new way to see the world? One that sticks in our minds so that we can always have it? Will this work of art, in the words of Wallace Stevens, enrich, deepen, and enchant my life if I allow myself to let it?”
The Cy Twombly painting in the video- does it show me a new way of seeing? I would say yes! It shows me, in its massive looping lines, to pay attention to the movement of the body, the rhythms of the arcs of the moving human form in the act of painting, maybe even the act of creation; and it teaches me to accept what is out of my control-that no matter how hard I try to read them, those thin, grey lines at the top and bottom of the painting are not words, only marks and lines. Have I gotten everything there is to get out of this painting? God knows i haven’t. But isn’t that incredible? Every time l come back to this work, ill get something new from it, some new way of seeing, some new way of noticing. So we ask, one last time: Is it a good work of art? Yes, I believe it is.
@@adamjnotthecongressmanschi7026 to counter this explanation by building upon it we need to analyze art a little bit deeper. Art isn’t giving us a different view on “the world” so to speak, it gives us a different perspective on something, there is no way, no matter how huge or how detailed that a piece of art could encapsulate the entirety of the world/all experiences etc.
Soooo what am I getting at? Art can broaden our horizons by giving us a new perspective on something. Whether it’s something literal like a scene or object, or an emotion like something a more interpretive artist would create.
Some might believe that I am about to call Twomby’s art interpretive… no. I wouldn’t call it interpretive because it’s either too focused on a certain interpretation or too fucking interpretative. Like this piece of art work could legitimately be interpreted as a man’s battle with diarrhea and it would be a legitimate interpretation. (Notice how I didn’t say which piece of art could be interpreted as diarrhea, I didn’t pick a single painting because they ALL could be interpreted as such) generally speaking when an artist creates a piece of art they inspire a feeling in you, adoration, sadness, anger shock etc.
when someone sees Twomby’s art they’re confused, start laughing and then get sad after realizing it’s an actual piece of art.
An example of him railroading his interpretations would be his Greek pieces, where he keeps the “art” abstract, still a bunch of scribbles, and then he adds in famous words from the Odyssey.
Art can and should be interpreted however you want, however when you’ve made art that is almost just scribbles or paint thrown onto a canvas (and I mean that literally) how can you call that art?
As a person with an adoration for art, I can honestly only say his art makes me angry about modern art.
To leave on a note that anyone can get behind, even the most basic artists can imprint a general set of emotions on the art’s viewer, whether it’s a good set of emotions or a bad set of emotions. Ask yourself what Twomby’s art inspires within you.
@@lukethompson5617 "How can you call that art?" I believe you've answered your own question with "generally speaking when an artist creates a piece of art they inspire a feeling in you, adoration, sadness, anger shock etc." If his art makes you "angry about modern art," then it seems to fit the criteria you laid out explicitly.
It’s simple - if someone is ready to pay millions for it, that’s how much it costs. Art market doesn’t follow the usual market rules. It’s all about the buyer and their desire to possess a particular piece of art. It doesn’t always mean that the most expensive art is the best. It could be that it’s the most desired for some reason.
I have a greater appreciation for abstraction now; there’s no foreground of background and it subverts the concept of time and space. It’s a masterful use of color, texture, and gestural improvisation. The emotion is aptly conveyed to the onlooker. She did a fabulous job at explaining! 💐
You're talking out of your arse.
Is it really though? Or is it because it’s tied to twombly that you’re saying this. I feel as though I could make or find a similar painting and tell you it’s from twombly and you would easily fall into that trap.
@@Nnubbs My dogs' muddy paws on the kitchen floor tanked this painting just this morning.
Formerly Untitled, now called, "Chicken Scratch."
Come on guys.
The frame has to be worth something!
Good one!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😊🤣🤣🤣😊😊🤣😊😊😊
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I never saw these works yet they are like mine
I never saw these works before but they are like my diherrea
@@jamesbond8540 you are funny and
@@josettaschembri2010 and?
@@jamesbond8540 naughty but nice
@@jamesbond8540 sweet
Sometimes Twombly's work comes alive for me and they look so serene words can't express. Breathtaking.
I don't know about all this other crap people talk about😃
Its literally just scribbles, dude
This is why so many people can’t stand art. When the pretentious have to find meaning in it to feel superior lol. It’s absolutely scribbles. It could absolutely create a work and say it’s Twombly. It’s about having a brand and so many of these pretentious fans just want to belong.
Idiot
HAHAHAAHAHAH
How much is it? I'm paypal ready.
50 mili
Art is crafted using skills, it inspires because no one else can do it wherefore shit is just dumped.
This is shit, pretentious obscuritive shit.
Heroic painting, please that’s insane! Ya you’ll make a fortune selling it but it’s blah blah blah
It's not exactly his best work, but Hartung's ones are more impressive. The Lepanto series are a lot more exciting and unleashing.
Thank you for sharing that. I’ll check out the Lepanto series. I love his work.
LMAO at the over-the-top faux scholarly gibberish
Total garbage! That goes to show how marketing enhances the value of works of art, doesn’t it?! Just hire these people so they can talk for hours about made up bullshit.
How does she know what he was feeling when he painted this piece? Is it a speculative rhetoric then???
Well go study my friend
I felt the way you did at one time. If you start out with the more accessible abstract stuff like Jasper John’s, that’s a great entry point into this world. Thanks to Cy Twombly, I’ve become a student of Greek, Roman and Persian history, geography and religions. It’s kind of like enjoying the subtleties of 100 percent cacao chocolates.
@@havefunbesafe more pretentious bullshit.
@@janiceal-najjar5093dont watch, dont read
She can sell shit 😂 "the rich tones of brownish gold with a green side tone into it which accentuates and command your senses to imagine the smell without having to actually smell it awakens a powerful human instinct which dates back to the start of human evolution" 🤣
love it
lol
I love it. No need for Art History BS to appreciate Art
Outstanding.
Is this a April Fool's Prank ?
It has to be a joke.
This is the type of art where you must be carefully convinced it's "great art"....hahahah...eye-roll!
I pride myself as a knower of art, this, this might just be the biggest troll the Illuminati is giving us
Thank you for that comment mate.
I lived in Munich for many years and the Museum Brandhorst features many 'works' by Twombly. So many times I wanted to go up to staff there and say is this Twombly stuff a joke? Some of it was the epitome of the rubbish considered 'art' these days. I like much modern art but Cy takes the cake.
This piece is nowhere near “Nine Discources on Commodus”.
Never got Cy. Still don’t get it. Guess that’s why they make chocolate and vanilla.
If you ever do get it, you've lost your mind. There's nothing to get.
Hahaha, hilarious. Pseudo-intellectual snob art is just a meme that keeps on giving.
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Do you know this equation WHICH LOOKS LIKE Pseudo-intellectual GARBAGE?
Ok, since you didn't, it's called EINSTEIN EQUATION.
This explains a lot of the physics of the universe, but an ignorant person will just rant instead of getting educated. Bless you!
His art appears to me as what someone in a state of pure freedom of mind would create. He was well educated in art and art history but drew and painted absolute mess. I draw and paint and I can't imagine how I'd do this free chaotic lively and sometimes rhythmic mess because my imagination is so bounded to physical reality which makes me proceed with just familiar shapes automatically. And even he couldn't resist drawing recognisable shapes like on the Leda and the Swan piece
I have faith you could do this blind
@@Nnubbs I suppose
@@inksoldier5544 Nothing wrong with being "bound to physical reality". In fact, believe me, it's a bonus. Not only in real life but also in art. I strongly suspect the whole post-50s scam of postmodern abstract relativism, in all the arts, is on its last legs. Eventually, people have to see the emperor naked. Nothing wrong with "familiar shapes" either. After all, it's what you do with them that counts.
@@blackmore4 As if somebody was saying that something was wrong with anything
@@inksoldier5544 What d'you mean?
Twombly's painting captures human nature at it's most passionate, aggressive and erotic, while at the same time conveying a stillness and timelessness that imbues the work with a tragic quality, as if to say that this is who we are as humans, - we fight, we struggle, we fuck, we bleed, and ultimately we die and pass on our traits, the best and the worse, to new generations who will repeat what we have done without knowing why.
What he said
haha if you say so
In other words, it looks like a toddler's finger painting.
You’re insane - you know that don’t you?
@@BillWoodillustrator you're gaslighting me, - you know that don't you?
Scam art 🖼
75% of Comments are Missing the Point . . .GJ Sotheby's
Which is ?
@@Lnch4ALion - As a Artist Cy Twombly Earned HIs place in the art world And ANYTHING he Paints ,
Is considered Art in the art world . Good or Bad
@@JOSEPHCHARLESCOLIN2024 and who decided that?
@@ams9449 You & You Alone Or me or Them
And what was we missing?
Stunning piece. So glad I came across Twombly.
nothing he did, a child couldn't do.
you know it.
If an art piece requires explanation for people to understand, then it's a sales pitch.
@@parsifal7300 how do you enjoy or feel a bunch of scribbles or dripped paint?
@@parsifal7300 or..... its just some shitty scribbles
@@parsifal7300 David Lynch movies are more like surrealism which is a good form of modern art. Mainly because it portrays a dreamlike unknown world. Twombly, Rothko, Pollock etc dont portray anything. If David Lynch movies were like Twombly paintings they would just be two hours of static and random shapes
@@parsifal7300 im here because i sometimes like to laugh at pretentious pseudo intellectuals like you
@@parsifal7300 but in order to be enjoyed it should have a meaning
Music is carefully made it does not have random noted and letters in it unlike this shitty art
I've seen prettier things in my toilet.
Great joke. Did you come up with it yourself ?
@@Lnch4ALion I did. All by myself! Thanks.
This comment took more talent than Twomblys art.
This was great! Thanks man.
Just ship it to Sotheby's. Or just store it in your bedroom, its price will eventually raise with the stink.
Any shit can become art and a masterpiece.
Dont judge artist by their famous works , type in cy twombly drawing and u will see the man was a genius.
Why is crap always considered art ?
Why don't you keep drawing a beach with an orange setting sun and be happy instead of watching all these videos? Or is it FOMO in the weekend suburban ghetto parties small talk about art?
Why do people play into other people's delusions? Garbage looks like garbage. And this looks exactly like that: garbage. Now pay him hundreds of thousands of dollars for one of his garbage paintings.
Visual art is especially subjective. I think this looks rad af and you think it looks like garbage. I’m sure you like plenty of things that i would consider garbage as well. There’s gotta be room for every kind of aesthetic
@@connorveach5986 I reckon all art appreciation is subjective but I can guarantee that if you'd been born before the whole postmodern scam of the 60s, your opinion would be pretty much identical to the original comment here.
You need education to even have the right to rant. UA-cam needs to have gatekeepers to keep the illiterate mob out.
@@blackmore4what makes post modernism a scam?
Utter nonsense: both the painting and the lovely lady.
No self-respecting cave man would make a mess like that. Thirty-two thousand year old cave paintings are far superior. Imagine you came across this in a cave. Wouldn't you want it sandblasted?
Nope!
Gosh freedom of expression to the nth!!! No wonder all children's art if considered wonderful.......... by parents and grandparents.
Modern art is great when you don't have a legion of mosquitoes screaming how bad they think it is
Twombly’s art elicited the charge of infantilism and the comparison of vandals markings that would become, in praise and dismissal, familiar tropes.
A perfect example of the farfetched gibberish that's ruining the current art world.
ya don't know what you're talking about...
@@cliffdariff74 When it comes to Abstract Expressionism, I've heard seemingly countless eager beavers.
It is a sad example about when people are looking at a total trash but want to find a meaning behind it because others within the circle praised endlessly about it. In the world of art, it's often not about the talent but more so of connections. Twombly was so terrible at art but a good salesman, he whores himself to art circle and selling his trash to those idiots as part of vanity lore.
@@parsifal7300 you simply have bad taste. That's it.
That in combination to a desire to feel included. So they agree with the ones in control to seem like they know what theyre on about. People somewhere are laughing endlessly. That's what happens with subjectivity. And when subjectivity was introduced in the art world, all hell broke loose.
Absolutelty pretentious and a complete mockery, that's what that painting is. This video should be titled ''How to misuse and take a word out of context''. You could try to be kind and forgiving and maybe call this 'interesting' or 'unique' and we would've accepted that, but calling this rubbish 'masterful' and 'heroic'... Give me a break, it takes zero mastery to make this.
Fuckin exactly
So unique😞 The mastery😞
Art....PLOT LOST.
Hahahaha!
Placebo!
Shhesh.... talk about vomit on a canvas as "art"
😭 love it
2:26 cue the laugh track
This twombly dudes work looked nothing compared to those actual masterpieces 😑
Its simply a mess.
Is this an SNL Skit?
i made ART looking like this too after eating spicy food
I can't paint like Leonardo Da Vinci but this b*llsh*it "art" i can make it for free even my son make it every day
Let's do painting art everyone... express yourself through art ...stay safe.God bless.
... the purple is kinda 'mooshed' ...
Has a certain "Je ne sais quoi."
this must be a spoof
“I CoUlD dO ThAT”
Well…you didn’t
well, thousands of toddlers actually did it, are doing it and will do it. Not much of an argument, you could came up with something better but I guess that's all you got.
No free ticket for the elitarian intellectual club for you, sorry.
Yes, you could do it. So could I and, as the other commenter rightly points out, so could anybody. The reason the massive majority don't is because a) they wouldn't want to and b) because the whole modern art scam is on its last legs and associating with it is plain embarrassing.
Abstract art is any art form that does not objectively nor accurately represent visual reality. This is just garbage. This doesn't evoke emotional responses nor does it conjure non linear constructs in my thinking mind. This is a guy who was smart enough to realize the highbrow world of art collection was easily duped into reading things into art pieces that did NOT exist! Twombly should be applauded for exposing the Art world for what it is. Ridiculous. Banksy does the same thing...only better.
Exactly, well said
Utter dribble and drivel.
This is a joke...right?..A SnL skit?....Kramer from Seinfield...hes the real artist...right?
Whats wrong with ppl these days
I've seen paintings made by elephants that are more aesthetically pleasing than this.
It's just paint smeared into a canvas. where's the talent exactly? All I see is scribbles
U can feel it if youre blind
I dont understand is this a joke? The problem with art is continuity. The students of art school will learn to idolize stuff like this because that's what they're taught, and a 30 something woman tells us it's a powerful piece. I just dont get it but I guess it's kind of funny
This is insane, does everyone realize this is just crap. I had some preschool children with cerebral palsy paint and some thing that looks just like this actually may be even better.
Bad art, honestly. Some modern art is captivating, this is just crap. Done with this pretentiousness. I could draw better and create work with more intention with my eyes closed and one hand tied behind my back.
How many millions is costing these incredible artwork? 😂😂😂😂😂😁best way of money laundering👌
Onembly is too many.
What a load of crap.
The King has no clothes. Call it out. Abstract Art is a scam and by not calling it out you become part of the scam.
This video certainly brought the pretentious wanna be art critics out of the woodwork. Never heard such a load of twaddle in all my life.
I’m fixing to make my toddler famous because even her Scribbling looks better than that!!..Hit me up Sotheby’s I wouldn’t charge you as much as he did!..This is NOT art & anyone willing to Pay that much for this needs to get a mental evaluation because they have clearly lost their damn minds!..WOW this world is crazier than I thought.
Holy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Luar biasa👍👍👍🙏
Sorry. This is and always has been bullshit. Carry on.
Master 🤣😂🤣
My Nine year old Grand Child Can out Scribble something better than this Art Fart Punter
why don’t they then? people pay tons of cash for this work. If you genuinely think you have a family member whose able to do this, you would be insane not to devote a serious amount of time and effort to nurture them
@@onemorechris I’m just being cheeky is all
One person’s trash is another’s treasure
@@onemorechris Why don't people paint it? Firstly, because they wouldn't want to and secondly because the whole postmodern art farce (in all the arts) is on its last legs and association with it is plain embarrassing.
Joe Rogan is right lol $3500 hahaha
For those who think you could make this… well you can‘t
Ha. My 3 year old granddaughter did last week in nursery school.
@@pepperman9 “It took me four years to paint like Raphael, but a lifetime to paint like a child.“ -Pablo Picasso
@@wokitoki9767 so what?
BS art speak -story time!
Masterful??? Bahahahahahaha
um macaco faz uma pintura melhor
hahahahahahahahahaha
F that 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
They are not like mine
Mine are classical
@@josettaschembri2010 Mine are renaissance punk.
what a load of crap he was probably not all there when he did this rubbish
I like Twombly…but “heroic”?
Overrated...!