We have "True genocide asgore" who absorbed 6 souls and with flowey's assistance, breaking 2 buttons. And now we have "True genocide toriel" who also got assistance of flowey and some more monster, and doesn't just simply taking hits anymore.
Despite the chaos. I admire the gracefulness of some of the attacks. It's rather...fitting to say the least. Least she's presuming her role quite well to...not for long sadly..
@@Oleja2008 usually queens can be associated with grace, because of their beauty and all that. I was just making a connection, nothing more. Besides the word fit what I was trying to say.
I think papyrus would be atleast twice weaker than undyne the undying, even if he's 100% trying. Just look as his stats 20 Atk 20 Def His stats are the lowest out of the rest of the main cast
@@CharlieAnimates the real question would be if his patterns are hard We know he has blasters because on an aborted genocide on his date, he mentions that if you fought him, “YOU’D BE BLASTED TO-“ and then he decides to not talk further about it Also, as we know, stats don’t really matter, because sans’ stats are by far the lowest and we know how difficult his fight was
@@kirby47897 sans was only difficult because he was somehow intelligent enough to know how to remove immunity frames Likely because he worked with gaster and his timeline tomfoolery. it doesn't seem like papyrus is very intelligent or has knowledge of 4th wall stuff so it's likely that papyrus won't be able to do that much crazy damage. However papyrus seems to be kinda tricky with his attacks, sometimes he launches surprise attacks to catch you off-guard like his fabled blue attack i think papyrus's attack patterns would be mostly the same as his regular attack patterns but faster and with more surprise attacks and will deal probrobly 5 or 6 damage However papyrus doesn't have very high hp and his defence is kinda pathetic, and i doubt he's smart enough to know how to block or dodge attacks i guess the entire fight should be one turn to make it fair?
@@CharlieAnimates sans isn’t just hard because of the i frames things His attacks aren’t easy to dodge, they’re hard to dodge because the patterns are hard Also, you underestimate papyrus’s intelligence, I feel if he were truly trying, he would put up a fight. After all, undyne’s reason for not putting him in the guard was just because he was too nice, but she goes out of her way to call him tough We know that monsters check stats aren’t accurate to their actual in game stats and are usually much lower in actual stats, however this is likely for two reasons A: none of the monsters really want to kill you that badly except for maybe Undyne B: to make it fair But I’d imagine that if papyrus WANTED to kill you, his stats would be more accurate to his check stats. You’re also forgetting that the human’s armor at this point is the glove and bandana, which aren’t exactly that good Combine all of this with the fact that he has gravity powers like sans, and is implied to have blasters. And we still have no clue what the hell his “special attack” does
This animation is really cool and having the ruins monsters help toriel is great. One small thing is that flowey shouldnt be helping toriel. In undertale, right after killing toriel in no mercy, flowey decides to help you by disabling puzzles. This isnt a problem with asgore since you betray him right before the sans fight and make him realize what a villain you are, even to him.
there are a lot of things in this animation that don't line up with actual undertale cannon/wouldn't make sense for Toby to put in for hardmode lol. its a cool animation either way though
Toriel unchanging :3 face (Even on the face o violence) makes the fight feel... Soulless... Too me. You do not see anger. You do not see sadness. And their eyes... Look more of amusement than concern.
Probably because of the wierd chompy things- horn mouth thingy idk how to explain it- maybe the things called TEETH YOU ABSOLUTE MORON! ITS NOT A UNCHANGING :3 FACE ITS TEETH, SURE SHE MAY HAVE THE EXPRESSION OF HAPPINESS AT TIMES BUT THAT DOESNT MEANS SHES DOING A :3 FACE YOU ABSOLUTE DENSE CABBAGE! I WOULD SMITE YOU IF I COULD, IF ZOMBIES WERE REAL, THEY WOULDNT ACKNOWLEDGE YOU, THEY WOULDNT EVEN DARE BAT A EYE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO BRAIN
Where did they get the remix that plays in this animation? I want to know if it’s completely original to the animation itself or is it not, because the description says nothing about it
Toriel legitimately just becomes sans. Moving the box, menu attacks and on top of it touhou like bullet patterns. It makes zero sense why some monsters are alive and why flowey is against you. And bruh, box blackouts?! Bro your not dust sans 💀
Another monster being able to block/dodge is so generic, so weird especially using fire for that. Yeah great, what's next? Shielding with air? I mean it's not even a parry which could make some sense, nahh, it's a block. Wasn't it obvious enough to make her able to selfheal or counter ur hits into heal? Tbh I'm pretty sure this all was made for the sake of another super difficult & graphic sans-like battle but just with the Tori's kit. Like fr, what are all these menu attacks, effects, attack denies and attack themselves which half legit is sans battles ripoff and also that goddamn blinding battlefield ability. What's that now, Toriel is a hidden Dust Sans?
that's why i hate the undertale community, look at this attacks! it's INSANE FOR TORIEL FIGHT (not in a good way tho) but this is very well made tbh, but it's toriel not undyne or asgore or sans bro, the name Toriel is a joke with the word TUTORIAL, i don't care if this is a genocide fight, it's still insane for a tutorial bro
Toriel is Queen of Underground, you know? I think, she is stronger than ordinary Undyne. She don't use all of hers hard attacks, because of she doesn't want harm to us.
You do know toriel is 1 of 2 boss monsters..other being asgore. It makes sense she is strong but holds back normally in the game since well her atk would 1 tap frisk
We have "True genocide asgore" who absorbed 6 souls and with flowey's assistance, breaking 2 buttons. And now we have "True genocide toriel" who also got assistance of flowey and some more monster, and doesn't just simply taking hits anymore.
I just noticed the name "Frisk" no wonder the battle is harder than usual
Flowey making the Frisk face tho....
Despite the chaos. I admire the gracefulness of some of the attacks. It's rather...fitting to say the least. Least she's presuming her role quite well to...not for long sadly..
True
Wdym fitting, ya trynna say gracefulness fits Toriel lel?
@@Oleja2008 usually queens can be associated with grace, because of their beauty and all that. I was just making a connection, nothing more. Besides the word fit what I was trying to say.
@@Link05533 basically yes, alright then lol
Now we need a papyrus battle like this, where he is not holding back too
Mettaton neo if he wasn’t made of shitty cardboard:
I think papyrus would be atleast twice weaker than undyne the undying, even if he's 100% trying.
Just look as his stats
20 Atk 20 Def
His stats are the lowest out of the rest of the main cast
@@CharlieAnimates the real question would be if his patterns are hard
We know he has blasters because on an aborted genocide on his date, he mentions that if you fought him, “YOU’D BE BLASTED TO-“ and then he decides to not talk further about it
Also, as we know, stats don’t really matter, because sans’ stats are by far the lowest and we know how difficult his fight was
@@kirby47897 sans was only difficult because he was somehow intelligent enough to know how to remove immunity frames
Likely because he worked with gaster and his timeline tomfoolery.
it doesn't seem like papyrus is very intelligent or has knowledge of 4th wall stuff so it's likely that papyrus won't be able to do that much crazy damage.
However papyrus seems to be kinda tricky with his attacks, sometimes he launches surprise attacks to catch you off-guard like his fabled blue attack
i think papyrus's attack patterns would be mostly the same as his regular attack patterns but faster and with more surprise attacks and will deal probrobly 5 or 6 damage
However papyrus doesn't have very high hp and his defence is kinda pathetic, and i doubt he's smart enough to know how to block or dodge attacks
i guess the entire fight should be one turn to make it fair?
@@CharlieAnimates sans isn’t just hard because of the i frames things
His attacks aren’t easy to dodge, they’re hard to dodge because the patterns are hard
Also, you underestimate papyrus’s intelligence, I feel if he were truly trying, he would put up a fight. After all, undyne’s reason for not putting him in the guard was just because he was too nice, but she goes out of her way to call him tough
We know that monsters check stats aren’t accurate to their actual in game stats and are usually much lower in actual stats, however this is likely for two reasons
A: none of the monsters really want to kill you that badly except for maybe Undyne
B: to make it fair
But I’d imagine that if papyrus WANTED to kill you, his stats would be more accurate to his check stats.
You’re also forgetting that the human’s armor at this point is the glove and bandana, which aren’t exactly that good
Combine all of this with the fact that he has gravity powers like sans, and is implied to have blasters. And we still have no clue what the hell his “special attack” does
*Undetale: THE REAL HARD MODE*
*Awesome.* =3
Papu?
@@ElpapudelaPuente si soy =P
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@@ElpapudelaPuente También yo 🗿(?
jaw dropped.
Is that Flowey with IF Frisk face?
;jawdrop; *THIS VERY IS NOT ABOUT SANS*
@@johnnyjoestar2329 yea
There’s typos at start 💀
Good animation otherwise though, I knew it was gonna be FIRE (no pun intended) when I saw who the animator was
I didn't notice thx
sans and toriel would be proud even if the pun wasnt intended
This animation is really cool and having the ruins monsters help toriel is great. One small thing is that flowey shouldnt be helping toriel. In undertale, right after killing toriel in no mercy, flowey decides to help you by disabling puzzles. This isnt a problem with asgore since you betray him right before the sans fight and make him realize what a villain you are, even to him.
Maybe it could work if it's in an AU where Flowey remembers your previous genocide timeline and doesn't want to help you anymore?
This is Hardmode (Look at the name and remember what it's said).
there are a lot of things in this animation that don't line up with actual undertale cannon/wouldn't make sense for Toby to put in for hardmode lol. its a cool animation either way though
@@dignatius4444Flowey cannot remember you're genocides due to you erasing the entire world so that's not impossible
@@noideangl he actually kinda does because after you do genocide he won't meet you as far as I remember in start of the game
this reflects the actually insane power toriel has.
This is literally how fighting her for the first time looked like for me
That was actually fire
Nice (probably unintentional) pun.
1:06 that how dust got that power
Cool detail
Wow, a year later the animator released a sequel to the fight, it's incredible.
The animator is back on this channel?
(Wowza animation btw :3)
Toriel unchanging :3 face (Even on the face o violence) makes the fight feel... Soulless... Too me.
You do not see anger.
You do not see sadness.
And their eyes... Look more of amusement than concern.
Probably because of the wierd chompy things- horn mouth thingy idk how to explain it- maybe the things called TEETH YOU ABSOLUTE MORON! ITS NOT A UNCHANGING :3 FACE ITS TEETH, SURE SHE MAY HAVE THE EXPRESSION OF HAPPINESS AT TIMES BUT THAT DOESNT MEANS SHES DOING A :3 FACE YOU ABSOLUTE DENSE CABBAGE! I WOULD SMITE YOU IF I COULD, IF ZOMBIES WERE REAL, THEY WOULDNT ACKNOWLEDGE YOU, THEY WOULDNT EVEN DARE BAT A EYE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO BRAIN
You know if toriel speaks chinese/japan, the human fucking screwed up
Toriel using some attacks like Sans and Sans learn how to use the white box after killing her that's neat
*𝐍 𝐨*
Esto es realmente impresionante 😮😮😮
Just because you are on geno doesn’t mean you kill everything instantly (toriel only died because she was off guard and didn’t want to kill you)
this is what hardmode geno was meant to be
boss monster power
This 100% would've been part of "undertale: last reset"
How much did flowey not eat to look like this bro
Toriel if she used half of her canon power:
Another universe where at the very beginning everyone unites against you, ok
POV: if toriel was acting like the queen she was supposed to be
Where did they get the remix that plays in this animation? I want to know if it’s completely original to the animation itself or is it not, because the description says nothing about it
no, it's a remix from somewhere, but I don't know from where
Im sure this is a question asked a lot
but does anyone know what the song used for this is called?
I really like it
some heartache cover, but I don't exactly know
@@Seldron333 I found it
It's called
"【UNDERTALE】Heartache -Epic Orchestra Arrange-【Toriel】"
She found you got an f- on your test
Это битва и анимация что-то с чем то, обязательно жду продолжение!
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Undertale hardmode but tody is actually cooking belike:
Smash, but... She is too strong grr
1 minute ago gang 🗣 🗣 🗣🔥🔥🔥
By attacking more brutally, they force the person to do the same, so much effort in vain?
That dammed flower
goat mommy 🤤
Ew
@@martin_elguy48xd42 We
I'm sorry but
Ara Ara? I mean it's kinda in Japanese, so--
Woah
finisher song ???
トリエルってここまで強かったっけ…?
Her canon ATK and DEF, each 80, equal to that of Asgore's, so... Yes.
* betrayal.
lore accurate toriel fight
To be honest, I'm tired of the genocidal stuff...but I'm glad it's not a Sans)
*finally*
This cant be genocide Toriel. The other monsters would be already dead
Ruh roh, someone decided to touhou-ify toriel
Do you use alight motion make this animation
He didnt make it, he just reuploads it.
Why is this harder that True Genocide Asgore?
nice
Toriel legitimately just becomes sans. Moving the box, menu attacks and on top of it touhou like bullet patterns.
It makes zero sense why some monsters are alive and why flowey is against you. And bruh, box blackouts?! Bro your not dust sans 💀
Remaining monsters in Ruins isn't such a bad thing tho, doesn't contradict much
I’m pretty sure in this every monster knows what you did before.
Wth why is toriel harder than undyne the undying and sans??
Toriel's stats are literally lower!
Is it because she's a boss monster?
i can imagine, she remember getting killed by you and that's why she's full power against you
x2hardmode toriel
Another monster being able to block/dodge is so generic, so weird especially using fire for that. Yeah great, what's next? Shielding with air? I mean it's not even a parry which could make some sense, nahh, it's a block.
Wasn't it obvious enough to make her able to selfheal or counter ur hits into heal?
Tbh I'm pretty sure this all was made for the sake of another super difficult & graphic sans-like battle but just with the Tori's kit. Like fr, what are all these menu attacks, effects, attack denies and attack themselves which half legit is sans battles ripoff and also that goddamn blinding battlefield ability. What's that now, Toriel is a hidden Dust Sans?
what's worse is that toriel has enough defense to just tank everything we throw at her
@@goobeeeer I mean
That's what she was blocking ur attacks for.
@@Oleja2008 what
Its already very original than any fangame or animation, why? Sans is not there
@@joaovitorsantosdasilva7865 it might as well be a sans fangame though
If tori speacks japanese you are in trouble 🗿
Vi al angel
undertale harder mode
This some time stop slashing
Why does Toriel looks like a kid?💀
Hi
When a normal boss fight on genocide somehow is more hard than *SANS*
Local furry gets firebending powers, instantly teams up with some animals and a living plant and starts to beat up a random child with a plastic knife
Damn on freaking ruins
that's why i hate the undertale community, look at this attacks! it's INSANE FOR TORIEL FIGHT (not in a good way tho) but this is very well made tbh, but it's toriel not undyne or asgore or sans bro, the name Toriel is a joke with the word TUTORIAL, i don't care if this is a genocide fight, it's still insane for a tutorial bro
Toriel is Queen of Underground, you know? I think, she is stronger than ordinary Undyne. She don't use all of hers hard attacks, because of she doesn't want harm to us.
chill "That's why I hate the undertale community" 😐
You do know toriel is 1 of 2 boss monsters..other being asgore. It makes sense she is strong but holds back normally in the game since well her atk would 1 tap frisk
Are you stupid on purpose? This is just an animation you potato
@@bobbybkh1471 no offense tbh, i just giving my opinion, but i still said i liked the fight
i cant read a japan, sorry
Esto es realmente impresionante 😮😮😮