I remember the first time I played Birthing Pod in Modern, the lack of interaction with my opponent felt so strange. You don't really care what their doing, just work the pod, you'll eventually win.
Yeah, a lot of decks just ignore what their opponent does. My homebrew matched up well against Pod decks back when it was legal. Had I had the money for a better mana base back then, Pod wouldn't have even been a bump in the road. That no interaction thing bit it in the ass against my turn 4 combo.
Shoutout to Gavony Township, the backup wincon. If your Pod is offline because of Stony Silence or Pithing Needle or whatever, then buffing your team of mana dorks and derpy creatures is a fine way to close out a game. Also, adding the +1/+1 counters to a persisted Kitchen Finks or Murderous Redcap was great as the counters cancel out. Also, how about that Golgari Rot Farm in Cuneo's list? I also seem to remember a different version of Angel Pod, popularized by LSV. This one had no Melira or Kiki-Jiki, only having Spike Feeder + Archangel of Thune as a combo, but it usually just sought to grind out value with Pod and Restoration Angel. The deck basically died when SIege Rhino was printed, as chaining Siege Rhinos two or three turns in a row was just better and something that most decks couldn't beat.
Always appreciate these deck history videos Currently the most relevant creature toolbox decks generally run Eladamri's Call, a pretty insane tutor at instant speed. They haven't been consistently relevant but they have put up some results in Modern Challenges every now and then, mostly in a Bant shell.
Play an Allosaurus Rider Opponent: "Oh, no." Neoform the Allosaurus Rider Opponent: "Oh, no." Griselbrand cheated into play Opponent: "Oh, no." Who needs Birthing Pod?
It’s funny I was thinking the power level of pod would be contextualized in how it’s “colorless” but it doesn’t seem relevant across its competitive history since all the best pod decks have green in them (if I’m not mistaken). I suppose green just has some of the strongest etb creatures and ramp for the pod
Get cheat codes n a high CMC cost creature then Neoform into a creature that returns a sorcery to your hand. There's a creature that does that for every CMC 3+. Also can evoke a creature and use undying etc to keep it in play
It's too slow for legacy. A 4 drop in legacy should win you the game in some way. Survival of the fittest which is better pod in every way is banned in legacy AFAIK
Why do you think birthing pod hasn't seen much success in other formats? I guess I would expect all the things that made it good in modern would make it good in legacy or vintage, too.
It's not just that it's too slow, it's that other decks that do Pod things also exist and do what it does better. Nic Fit is a perennial rogue deck and meme in Legacy, and it essentially does the old "drop game ending bombs" on the opponent, but with significantly more interaction and a lot more consistency. That said, Pod Affinity used to be a thing if memory serves.
Pod made me start playing serious and drop Yu-Gi-Oh. I think that's because it always felt like a ygo deck IMHO. It turns your deck into a toolbox to deal with problems which rocked in my eyes
Wotc saw how much of a shitshow their original creature ladder deck was, Rebels (mercadian masques) and thought that it couldn’t go wrong if they just had 1 card (that’s essentially colorless and cheap no matter what anyone tells you about phyrexian mana. Now they’ve just settled for worse variants of pod. Vannifar, pyre of heros, Oswald and letting modern players seethe over the continual placement on the Ban list. It’s basically mtg twitter’s most requested modern unban after splinter twin which is mind blowing to me.
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Now this is pod racing
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I remember the first time I played Birthing Pod in Modern, the lack of interaction with my opponent felt so strange. You don't really care what their doing, just work the pod, you'll eventually win.
That describes tons of Modern decks since the beginning of the format.
That describes most of magic really
Yeah, a lot of decks just ignore what their opponent does. My homebrew matched up well against Pod decks back when it was legal. Had I had the money for a better mana base back then, Pod wouldn't have even been a bump in the road. That no interaction thing bit it in the ass against my turn 4 combo.
Shoutout to Gavony Township, the backup wincon. If your Pod is offline because of Stony Silence or Pithing Needle or whatever, then buffing your team of mana dorks and derpy creatures is a fine way to close out a game. Also, adding the +1/+1 counters to a persisted Kitchen Finks or Murderous Redcap was great as the counters cancel out. Also, how about that Golgari Rot Farm in Cuneo's list?
I also seem to remember a different version of Angel Pod, popularized by LSV. This one had no Melira or Kiki-Jiki, only having Spike Feeder + Archangel of Thune as a combo, but it usually just sought to grind out value with Pod and Restoration Angel. The deck basically died when SIege Rhino was printed, as chaining Siege Rhinos two or three turns in a row was just better and something that most decks couldn't beat.
Gavony'd my way to $50 store credit at the LGS more than once back in the dizzay
Always appreciate these deck history videos
Currently the most relevant creature toolbox decks generally run Eladamri's Call, a pretty insane tutor at instant speed. They haven't been consistently relevant but they have put up some results in Modern Challenges every now and then, mostly in a Bant shell.
I think it says a lot about how powerful a card is when even after it gets banned, the decks that mimic its power still do well.
Don't worry.. barf two ears will make tokens of it
It's mimicking survival of the fittest which is the ultra busted version of pod
Play an Allosaurus Rider
Opponent: "Oh, no."
Neoform the Allosaurus Rider
Opponent: "Oh, no."
Griselbrand cheated into play
Opponent: "Oh, no."
Who needs Birthing Pod?
Pod still better
I suppose, you are mtg remy fan?
Just another Modern Monday...
That is such a bad combo though.
It’s funny I was thinking the power level of pod would be contextualized in how it’s “colorless” but it doesn’t seem relevant across its competitive history since all the best pod decks have green in them (if I’m not mistaken). I suppose green just has some of the strongest etb creatures and ramp for the pod
They'd still use the phyrexian mana since it made it cheaper.
@@Hinaguy749 - Yep, turn 1 Birds or Hierarch into turn 2 Pod was very common.
This was such a time to be alive
Nizzahon! Hey do a merch shirt or playmat that has your scoring system on it bro!
I’d buy it!
Get cheat codes n a high CMC cost creature then Neoform into a creature that returns a sorcery to your hand. There's a creature that does that for every CMC 3+. Also can evoke a creature and use undying etc to keep it in play
loving this series!
Thanks!
One of the best bans ever
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I’d always kind of assumed birthing pod was probably a simic combine card from Ravnica just from the name when I heard about it, like neoform I guess.
Did any Vannifar decks manage to take off, or was it too restrictive?
Looks like it has no points
Ofc siege rhino pops up as well
Question
Is the pod legal in legacy? Were there any premier tournaments won with the pod at the time of this writing?
It is legal, but no one plays it. It is too slow for the format.
It's too slow for legacy. A 4 drop in legacy should win you the game in some way. Survival of the fittest which is better pod in every way is banned in legacy AFAIK
is the green thing with teeth the pod or the thing coming out of the pod?
That is what is being sacrificed to it.
@@NizzahonMagic the secret third possibility
Nice Goblin King bro. =]
Thanks!
Why do you think birthing pod hasn't seen much success in other formats? I guess I would expect all the things that made it good in modern would make it good in legacy or vintage, too.
Its too slow for those formats. People have tried. Pod needs several turns to really do its thing, and you don't have that.
@@NizzahonMagic right on, that makes sense. I haven't played those formats too much
It's not just that it's too slow, it's that other decks that do Pod things also exist and do what it does better. Nic Fit is a perennial rogue deck and meme in Legacy, and it essentially does the old "drop game ending bombs" on the opponent, but with significantly more interaction and a lot more consistency.
That said, Pod Affinity used to be a thing if memory serves.
It's a 4 drop a 4 drop in legacy should be winning you the game
It's used to exist in survival of the fittest, Essentially a way more broke version
Pod made me start playing serious and drop Yu-Gi-Oh. I think that's because it always felt like a ygo deck IMHO. It turns your deck into a toolbox to deal with problems which rocked in my eyes
Isn't birthing pod still legal in legacy? I thought it had quite a foothold there too for a while.
It is legal there, but doesn't really have a foothold.
@@NizzahonMagic Dang. Maybe its time we start deck-teching then haha. Thanks though 😊
A 4 drop in legacy should be winning you the game. Survival of the fittest was legacy pod and it's banned AFAIK
Birthing pod is so dope
*Angry rec-sur sounds*
How many decks have to beat Splinter Twin before it gets a pity video? lol #JusticeForSplinterTwin
Give us Twin!
I really miss Modern Pod
I don't understand what went through R&D's head when they created cards like Birthing Pod or Skull Clamp many years ago... like seriously...
Hm, pod got no history in Legacy? I would have thought that even larger creature pool would only help.
It's been tried in Nic fit, Yorion, and alluren. It's just a little too slow for legacy.
Wotc saw how much of a shitshow their original creature ladder deck was, Rebels (mercadian masques) and thought that it couldn’t go wrong if they just had 1 card (that’s essentially colorless and cheap no matter what anyone tells you about phyrexian mana.
Now they’ve just settled for worse variants of pod. Vannifar, pyre of heros, Oswald and letting modern players seethe over the continual placement on the Ban list. It’s basically mtg twitter’s most requested modern unban after splinter twin which is mind blowing to me.
Is Niz & Sbmtg the same person?
Nope!
Yes but competition is still evil.
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The deck was completely fair until innistrad lol
Someone needs to stop casting Fog on your camera
#freetwin
I honestly don't get how Pod is still banned in modern
It would be a very good card, no doubts, but not worth bannings
Same reason shit stays banned in yu gi oh, they don't want a deck to playable forever you have to spend legacy money for that
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