My Opinions on the Viral Former Maiko's Tweet (THIS VIDEO MAY BE DELETED)
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2022
- I would like to express my opinion on the current topic of the former maiko's tweets. I don't know how much of what she says is true, but it is probably true that the world of maiko actually has many problems. This is a venerable problem for my own dream to come true too. I don't think my opinion is worth that much, but I will share a few thoughts with you.
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It's not every day that you post a Li-building video, Mister Patriot! I can't wait for what tomrrow brings!
this seems a bit biased, not enough information is said based on just this tweet alone, i've seen so many people who are just from this information saying that japan is a culture of mysogony when its rated as one of the safeist places and highest standards of living for women around the world. this whole thing seems like another one of those alarmist videos, similar to Qanon. taking a tweet and adding a sinister scheme around it
Can you make a video aboot the change in this profession over the centuries?
@@NeostormXLMAX are you talking about being civilized? are you seriously not spreading civilization ON PURPOSE? That's like being a suicide bomber
Thank you for speaking out about this matter so sincerely❤️❤️
“Why is she only coming forward now?” Because she feels now is a right (if not safe) time to come forward. It’s a common thread in sexual harassment and crimes.
FR that's just a lazy way of trying to dismiss her by implying that she's lying for some reason without outright stating it.
I agree. At the time she was quite young (she is still quite young), so there could be many reasons why she couldn't come forward, especially since women who have been sexually abused are usually shamed for speaking up.
@@meko98743 Not that lazy when you realize there are people who hide behind "it's not lazy" when they reveal over 40 years later, when nothing can be proven, and we're expected to listen and believe it.
Instead, point out that ~5 years is not that long a time and to, ya know, f**k off.
@@cannotfigureoutaname i dont think there is any country on earth where that happens in every instance of sexual assault.
@@cannotfigureoutaname this wasnt really in "public" though. what country are you in that has such a response?
I'm a Japanese woman and I saw her tweet. I'm pretty sure that there are a lot of Japanese people who don't know this fact and I was one of them. what I don't like about Japan is people are too conservative for traditional culture even if there are some aspects that is not suitable for modern society. I agree that preserving traditional culture is important, but we have to accept changes. No culture that have never been mixed with other culture or changed exist when we look back the past. Many people are too obsessed with remaining something as it is. If there are some people who are suffered from a tradition, we need to change it.
💯 tradition can simultaneously be preserved and adjusted to fit the standard of the times.
Like the internet said, tradition is just peer pressure from the dead.
Yes, we don't degrade underage women just because it was done in the past.
Exactly!
I agree. If the reason you are sticking to tradition is because "that's just how we've done it for years", it's time to either take a closer look at it or discard it altogether.
As much as culture and traditions should be registered and preserved, practices that endanger kids, teens and women need to be changed. At the same time let's not fall for the trap to think this is a Japan or an Eastern culture problem. Horrible stuff happens to young people on the entertainment industry, model agencies, sports and even churches in the West. The youth and otherwise vulnerable people must be educated, protected and given a voice to "sound the alarm".
It’s a power-imbalance problem. Which, sadly, is universal.
*coughdragqueenscough*
Why are dangerous practices targeted only at women, kids and teens a problem? Why not changing dangerous practices that target elders? Men? Babies? And so it goes on. Why not changing the practices that endanger people in general
It reminds me of the scandal of the US and UK gymnastics teams where a blind eye is turned out of convenience for the nations pride. I do think given the actual role of Maikos, of being entertainers for generally adult men in a secluded room, that maybe there should be an age restriction of when a Maiko can entertain guests unsupervised. Even then I do question the appropriateness for an underage girl to be an entertainer in such an intimate setting for adults.
The root is the dynamic between someone who knows they hold immense power over a young, wide-eyed individual who would do anything for their craft. It’s a world-wide problem for sure.
The naysayers: "Why is she only coming out now when it was so long ago?"
1. Because victims are groomed to remain silent whether through fear, shame, embarrassment, or manipulation and gaslighting. Victims are groomed to remain silent.
2. Because many cultures including many western ones in America and the like have the mentality of men being superior and women being seen and not heard. As well as the mentality of men being unable to express emotion or be vulnerable or be a victim themselves. Some are more apparent than others but yeah.
3. Because victim blaming language has been made into a conditioned response for many people whether they have ever been violated or not. It is a human condition overall, not any singular cultural one.
As a survivor of ritualistic and generational abuse I've seen this so often. My own mother used these same types of languages and conditioned responses towards it because that's how she was groomed. More and more people however are breaking free of this. More and more people are starting to recognize these things and that victims don't speak out either a. Until they finally feel safe enough to do so. Or b. Until they've reached the point where they will be silenced no longer.
Please. If you do not have to delete this via UA-cam or some such then don't. Victims around the world need this. All victims. Whether a man, woman, or anyone else in between. We need to be heard. We need our stories told.
You can only sweep under the rug for so long before things begin to spill out and even then the room is never really clean. It's time to toss out the rugs and clean house.
Edit to add: Thank you. Thank you thank you thank you. Thank you for believing her. Thank you for recognizing through the confirmation of others speaking out and through your own witnessed experiences that she is likely telling the truth. Thank you for not downplaying it or making it seem like it doesn't happen or invalidating her claims by trying to refute what she has said or by asking for proof. Thank you. You spoke honestly. If we cannot be honest about the issues in any of our given cultures we cannot become better. Holding onto traditions at the expense of others.. their lives, their well being, their safety and sanity. It's simply just not okay. So thank you for being so genuine in your response with this.
if he deletes it it will be because he is afraid. kyoto is a very small world.
@@TheBillaro I'm not sure I agree there. Yes Shogo is in a space that is possibly dangerous for not only him but those around him should he refuse to remain silent on the topic/issue but I don't see Shogo as someone that refrains purely out of fear. There would be other factors to it. And I'd be willing to bet they'd be more direct factors than simply just fear. Everyone becomes afraid at some point or another. To live without a healthy dose of fear is foolish. But to live under the rule of fear is even more foolish and Shogo does not strike me as a foolish person at all.
@@TheBillaro He could get horrifically sued if things go poorly. The laws are very different in Japan
@@derekskelton4187 educate me on the laws of japan.
Thank you for sharing your story and for saying what must be said out loud, over and over.
We are in 2022 and too many people are still asking: why only come forward now?
We should know better by now! After having seen so many big public cases like Cosby, Weinstein and Epstein.
It has been already explained by so many victims and so many mental health professionals.
And yet this has been a hard lesson to learn, because this type of abuse is such an old part of humanity.
We need to say: enough! It is time to evolve and become better towards eachother.
The response she recieved is the reason she didnt talk about it right away. It's not dissimilar to sexual assaults. Some people dont report it for many many years later.
According to a survey I looked up when it comes to sexual assault only 5% of victims come forward in Japan.
Its ok to be skeptical when someone comes forward and accuses someone, it's what you should do for any crime. The big but here is these things are happening and they are massively unreported. What needs to be done is for society to make it easier for people to come forward, this idea that standing out is a bad is completely outdated.
"It's ok to be sceptical" apparently only applies when women come forward about what men did to them. No one's ever 'sceptical' about someone being robbed for example. But sure, be 'sceptical' about an already massively underreported crime that is underrepresented because victims are treated as liars. Take them seriously. Investigate.
@@Maialeen people are innocent until proven guilty. These women who come forward are victims, but the police and courts need to prove the accused did it, thats how justice works.
@@dieZauberfloete He didn't say "suspiciously" though, he said "sceptical". Suspicion implies distrust, scepticism only implies doubt about a situation. That's a big difference. You're basically agreeing with him when you say that the correct position on accused crimes without strong evidence is "neutrality", because that means you're allowing for some margin of doubt about whether the accused is guilty or not. In other words, scepticism.
In any case none of this really applies to the video topic because #1 she didn't accuse anyone directly, and #2 the photos of her clearly underage drinking whilst working serve as pretty strong corroborating evidence to what she is claiming happened. Even if nothing more happened, that's still an extremely dangerous situation for an employer to be putting teenage girls into.
@@miguelzurita3216 yeah, except that the Japanese police are pretty bad when it comes to sexual assault. It’s very rare for any assault case to be taken seriously, whether evidence or not
This is not unique to Japan or traditionnal cultures. Wherever you find young people working under seniors, you'll find some of these are exploitative and abusive if they are not downright predators. It can happen in sport clubs, hobby groups, schools, professionnal life, personnal trainers, religious institutions, everywhere. If you feel something is not right, get out and seek counceling.
I've been in an extremely abusive situation in theatre school. Getting out and getting counseling is not as easy as it sounds. It took me 11 years after graduation to process the trauma of what really happened. I did come forward and seek counseling then, but it was already 11 years too late to "get out."
That's so true. We have to realize that predator types will seek out jobs and careers that give them access to young people they want to exploit. Cops and janitors too. That doesn't mean that everyone or a majority in these positions are predators-but those who are not will find it hard to oppose or expose the abusers (and victims) in their midst
Exactly..We need to make it where young people feel more comfortable to step forward and say something.
in japan and every country sadly
Sadly true
In my opinion, young women should never be left alone with male customers, the risk of sexual harassment and exploitation is way too high. We need to create a safe space for Maiko in training so that they can speak up about such crimes without feeling ashamed or threatened. This can't be justified by culture, it's about the lack of female rights in Japan and it has always been discussed but no one has taken action.
They need to be trained in self defense as well
young women are not left alone with male customers, they are educated for it, this is no accident, prostitution is a business. Everyone but the youngs know what's going on here.
I don't share your opinion. There is no lack of female rights in Japan, and as Shogo said, a few cases cannot define an industry. That's like me saying don't drive because you could get into an accident. Help the cases that come, but remember, there needs to be a balance between preserving culture and making things safe for all involved. I'm mixed on the left alone part. Leaving young boys with adults should be just as stigmatized at that rate as well. Like the sumo trainee and many other cases of boys being bullied by superiors.
@@juku_juku “there is no lack of women’s rights in japan”
yes there is. it’s hard for people to even speak out about abuse they have suffered in japan, but especially hard for women. only a third of women who get groped report it, and only a sixth of those cases actually get investigated. japan ranks one of the lowest countries for women’s rights
@@mitskiislife Those aren't rights, those are social ideas. Rights are supported by law, not the idea that someone shouldn't speak up (even though many do speak up). Men and women have equal rights in that regard.
Traditions are important and should be valued and protected. However, traditions should not be safe havens for abuse. A tradition that requires harming the soul of a person is better left to history as a cautionary tale.
The tradition of geiko/geisha should be one of beauty, grace, and elegance. This surely requires discipline and abuse should be seen as anathema to those values.
Shame on cruel and negligent okaasan that allow this art to be tainted.
Bs tradition can leave.
Tradition is peer pressure from dead people
Agreed. Traditions that involve abuse or limit intellectual & emotional growth should be phased out since there's no positive benefit. Because then you're doing things just for the sake of doing them. The reason and meaning is lost.
@Uncle Sam imagine being abused by tradition
traditions have no value people just feel like they do. maybe that gives value to some.
People like you, that try to keep the history/culture/arts of your country alive, need to be PAID and HONORED. Wishing you safety and success.
No, money corrupts. He's doing a great job as it is.
I don't know, it seems insensitive to comment this without actually acknowledging the topic of the video. To me at least it seems inappropriate and I will be brutally honest it seems like you are bootlicking.
Modern Japanese culture IS the enemy of traditional Japanese culture. As every modern industrialized consumerist culture is the enemy of their own ancestors ways of life.
@@edejor Yeah I came to the comment section cause I didn't get the initial comment at all. Like, what's your goal with that? Honoring him for wearing traditional clothes, or saying "you go guy, those b*tches need to be put in their places"
@@LaNoir. or maybe he's saying that the Maikos, that preserve the culture, should be paid ?
I went to an organised dinner with a Maiko in 2019, most of the people there were actually older women and a younger couple, in fact I was the only single male there. She performed some traditional dances and a tea ceremony, I also got to play the cup game with her, which was great fun (I kept winning somehow). It was the highlight of my months stay in Japan. in between performances she also talked about her life as a Maiko and answered any questions we had. From what she said she seemed pretty happy with her life as a Maiko, despite the many difficulties such as having to sleep on wooden blocks to preserve her hair and not having much free time for herself. But it did bother me slightly that she first started at the age of fifteen, apparently it bothered her mother too, but she was reassured that her daughter would not have to do anything 'erotic' and would only be an entertainer. I can well imagine though that there are many instances of young Maiko being manipulated and abused by inconsiderate customers, and that the maiko houses would not necessarily do anything about it. I certainly hope that the lovely young Maiko I met does not have to suffer those kinds of attention!
This happen a lot in entertainment industries, even the modern one like KPOP and Hollywood.
Not everyone involved in the business is like that, but some degenerates will use their chance there to exploit some entertainers.
and thats the story they tell you
that's what she's supposed to tell you, no matter how she feels. It may be true that she's perfectly happy, but if she's not, she certainly wouldn't be allowed to tell the customers that.
@@Nariasan Yeah, I never said I wholly believed it, just that that is what she told us. As I said, I was uncomfortable with the fact that she had entered this life at 15 years old.
@@yurarara I don’t know if a ballet dancer is the best comparison to make, there’s actually a lot of abuse that happens toward dancers both in schools and companies.
It’s so upsetting that all over the world whenever a victim of sexual abuse takes a while to process the experience before bringing it to the public people have the reaction shogo mentions here. They cast doubt and ask “why now”? Sexual trauma doesn’t get magically processed overnight, it can take a person years and years to recognize it wasn’t their fault then even longer to realize that not speaking out about it perpetuates the problem. Very upsetting yo know it’s so universal of an experience, but I’m very glad she was brave enough to speak.
Yes!
Yup! It’s incredibly scary, especially because of the stigma associated with that kind of trauma.
It IS unique to Japan. Do you know the difference between culture and an individual's actions? Culture means it is normalized. This misogynistic, outdated culture and tradition in Japan is normalized. It is NOT normalized in the West. In the West we shun, condone and punish these kind of actions. In Japan, everything is kept under the table and silenced. Women's rights in Japan are far behind compared to the West.
@@xPhantomxify It’s still normalized in the West too. No one is saying it’s *as bad* as it is in Japan, but the stigma & silencing of victims absolutely still happens in the US. Trust me, I’m a survivor myself.
It took a female psychopatchic dupe over 30 years to raise objection and ludicrous claims she fabricated from whole cloth against Justice Kavanagh. Allegations of, to be honest if real, teenage behaviour. But they were bogus so no need for 'what if'.
Ultimately she didn't get over getting fingerbanged at a party when they were 17.big phuqqing deal.
If it's illegal for a minor to drink alcohol, then it should not matter what her profession is. She's 16, then idgaf if she was hired to be your entertainment, she's a child. I don't care when she decided to come forward with it, she was sexualized as a child. Periodt.
Weebs will still try to defend misogynistic Japan. Japanese are scared of shame. Shame means defeat for them.
Japan has halfway strict alcohol laws. I've seen high school kids buy alcohol from 7 eleven. You basically just select that you are 20 years old on a touch screen. I look younger than my age and can still pass as a college student. Maybe even high school in some people's eyes. I was never asked for ID and never was my gf at the times I visited Japan. At the time she was 21 but could pass for 15 or 16.
I do think given the actual role of Maikos, of being entertainers for generally adult men in a secluded room, that maybe there should be an age restriction of when a Maiko can entertain guests unsupervised. Even then I do question the appropriateness for an underage girl to be an entertainer in such an intimate setting for primarily adult males. Even in the best of circumstances the thought makes me uncomfortable.
I agree. To me it looks like some in Japan are actively trying to make Geisha into prostitutes which, from my understanding, isn't how it's supposed to be.
@@shanchan8247 geishas were historically often prostitutes although not always
@@shanchan8247 Japan government are sick and full of pedos. Their doing all they can to exploit younger women but still been seen as a "normal country". Haven't you heard they change so that you can sign up in porn entertainment industry at 18 when before it was 21? Even at the age of 21 there's cases of women being fool into signing up contract yet now they let them sign up younger. Their sickos.
Their using the name of "tradition" to keep doing the inappropriate things they want
it's very disturbing.
Yup! It is basically setting things up for abuse!
You know, I can accept that the Maiko perhaps can’t be seen in certain places because they want to keep the rarified airs of the art. But, for a young girl to go around at night without a mobile telephone is so dangerous. She could be kidnapped or raped or anything and no way to contact the police. Her phone can also act as a gps so that if something happens they can trace where the phone is. It’s a shame because I have always thought the art of the Geisha was so interesting and beautiful. And, no pay! They may be in training but they are bringing money onto the house and the idea that they don’t get anything at all is so unfair to them.
That makes me want to bring up the "art of kpop", which has a similar construct but is way more glorified by the public. Trainees go into "free public schools" that teach them how to act, dance, sing and "keep a pretty body", but they're forced to pay all that lend money back once they debute (or drop out).
i have an easy solution
you can get small devices the size of a kids wrist watch with gps, alarm and phone capabilities, and just hide them somewhere within the excessive amount of many many meters of fabric that is very tightly and firmly wrapped around them and bam no aesthetic compromised
@@LaNoir. How are those free? Also there are those that simply learn after joining agencies as trainees and I believe that is free but they are bound by contracts. Which means they have to pay if they want to leave before they can debut or before their contract is up. Not sure about the biggest agencies but I heard that this compensation as trainees (who end up never debuting with the company) is usually for small agencies
@@FC-eh7ll you just repeated what I wrote
@@LaNoir. I was focusing on your “free public schools” part and remembered the compensation part after
She probably feels safe enough to speak about this now or something really awful must have happened recently to push her to share her story
Seems like a friend of hers wants out so shes trying to encourage her friend to leave, get a high school degree, and explaining even college is possible, you just have to leave the abuser. She hopes by gaining traction telling her story even though shes been scared to do so, other girls will have courage to leave.
I can see why they wouldn't want the girls to have smartphones (for distraction reasons) but are old-style brick phones still available, or landlines? They should have those. Pulling people away from their guardians and/or friends without means of communication is abusive situation 101.
its 2022! apparently you can buy a wristwatch with a small gps to help kids navigate to their school or a playground, where the adults can check where the kid is at and the kid can call the parents if they get lost or scared, considering the expensive stuff a maiko is draped in it really shouldnt blow their budget to buy a few of em to cover the basic needs of a modern world
Honestly the solution to the phone thing is keeping it under wraps when they don't need it. If you're working at that moment, training, etc. then it's kept in your room or a box.
@@Crosshill putting a bug on your kid is peak 1984 conditioning jk
@@xXDESTINYMBXx A bug is to spy on unknowing people. A gps for your child is used in case they're ever stolen or lost and they would be aware of that. It's not out of the ordinary for parents to want to protect their children.
@@legendaryfails7529 yeah and predators are not aware of this tools at all, come on.
And you talk about kids like they are property...
Sexual harassment is very scary. At such a young age too. What type of low life does that to a young girl?
For the touching her body under her kimono part, I am wondering how that happened though. The maiko's kimono has minimum 3 layers plus an elaborate belt on top. Did her client undress her? That sounds even more horrifying.
The sleeves. They large enough. Some geikos Hide small objects like fans in it
The hikizuri sleeves have holes in the armpit area.
ha ha look for photos of tronald w his 12 yr old ivie..
First time I was s3xually harrassed by an older man was 11, though I had experienced CSA prior but that in my mind is a different societal problem. The man who harrassed me also targeted my little sister since she was with me, and she was only 9. The most recent example of me recieving harrassment like that was a about a month and a half ago roughly. I look younger than I am due to my short height, high pitched voice and childlike face, most people placing me around 14 or 15 with makeup on, 12-13 without. So it is always a little extra creepy when someone harrasses me s3xually cos while I am now an adult, most people don't assume that when looking at me. S3xual harrassment even in my country is so rampant, it's hard to imagine what it must be like in japan, especially since younger girls are often s3xualised in the media there.
Welcome to misogynistic Japan.
Please don't delete this video. You've said true words!
He means if it gets removed
I have often wondered how often abuse occurs within this industry, as anytime you have young girls left alone with adults, especially alcohol being involved, an adult can try and take advantage and hurt them. Especially knowing the horrific nature of the sexual assault on trains, and the gender inequality in Japan, I knew there must be some sexual abuses occuring. I hope that the victims will be respected and protected, and I hope more safety precautions are taken for these young girls who only want to do something beautiful and continue the culture.
I completely agree. To think that given the environment of this that CHILDREN would never be harmed is SO incredibly naive and dismissive. I would NEVER let my child entertain grown drunk men alone or otherwise. The other innocent aspects of the culture are fine but no child should be doing this. You are asking for problems.
Sadly its Japan they wont be protected
This is a country that when a model was sexually assaulted by two of her fans her company made her PUBLICLY apologise for being sexually assaulted
The counter "why is she only coming forward now" also contributes to people _never_ telling their stories. Even after they internally finally feel like they can talk about it, they'll feel the window has passed and that they'll just be harassed and be made to feel guilty.
I'm glad that she's speaking out! To those who are questioning her, they clearly haven't been through assault and need to check themselves. Even I've been on a train in a country in Asia, and been groped, how much more is the door open for worse to happen to a minor left alone with wolves!
I got grope in a bus going to my college in California. It was horrible and traumatic experience.
same with young actresses/actors getting shady coaches, agents in Hollywood - any industry that is rife with underage workers needs to have supervision & protections for the workers because Predators are attracted to working in such industries as supposedly trusted insiders. great video!
Yeah. No regulations for these industries is what allowed Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby to access really vulnerable underage workers and abuse them. Nuff said, I agree!
Sigh... Another weeb trying to defend Japan and their pedo culture... Do you understand the difference between individual's actions in Hollywood that is NOT normalized, condoned and often punished by law? In Japan this kind of culture is NORMALIZED and kept under the table. It IS unique to Japan.
The embarrassment on Shogo's face when he talks about traditions tainted by abuse 😢 Considering the gender inequality in Japan and the importance of obedience at any costs I think that awful abuses surely happen but it's also true that horrible incidents draw more attention than peaceful and honest human interaction. I agree with Shogo when he says to not generalize and point the finger at a whole branch of the entertainment business.
Hopefully people understand that its not the industries but how people feel about coming forward and how the law will address it.
For the Maiko who came forward I do think it's fair to be skeptical if she was accusing someone, based on Shogo's video she didnt do that she just came forward about her experience, which we should beleive. Society should also allow people to be more open about these things, people need to be encouraged to speak up.
Sadly i only have a general understanding of Japan, but everything I know about it. Its issues arent hard to solve, a lot of is just people needing the willpower to speak up, and not care about what others think.
@@miguelzurita3216 Thats the issue tho they wont speak up
Japans police are well known for making it so victims blame themselves so they drop it
since crimes of that nature are hard to prosecute so it looks bad, but they will go all out on small easy to prosecute crimes like littering
Even if it gets to the court Japans courts are more likely to take a mans word over a woman's
Also they will be publicly shamed for besmirching there families honour
And it also leaves them open to a counter case since due to Japans honour laws
if they accuse someone and even if they are guilty the woman might still be fined for besmirching there honour.
Another issue is that the people in power are probably guilty of such acts
When Female only carts on trains were introduced there were protestors against them
Funnily enough one of the vocal heads was a politicians who was DONE for Chikan.
on to Chikan its only been recently they have done anything about it.
@@mkgaming5823 thanks for the info. I had no idea there was such a thing like honor laws. Clearly that's another way to protect the abusers.
As an outsider looking in, this is appalling. Sadly most of us cant do anything, all we can hope is that people care less about something as meaningless as honor, and start to care about the victims of crime
Traditions hold a lot of beauty and charm, but tradition also needs to know how to adapt to the modern world while preserving the heart of traditions. As a student at a Kung Fu temple, I'm always proud of how well they preserve tradition while also embracing the modern time. The best and earliest example was when our Grandmaster first started training students in the US, he was one of the first to teach traditional Kung Fu to outsiders/non-Asian which at first was met with resistance from those in his community.
This is what I love about this channel because it truly does value tradition while bringing it forward to modern times.
Not all traditions are worth keeping but also not all traditions are worth killing
Tokyo geishas are really modern but the rule are REALLY DIFFRENT compared to Kyoto ones: in Tokyo you can't became a maiko if you aren't 18, they are allowed to keep phones and sometimes are even ecouraged to go to university
@@luciagianquitto4010 that is fascinating I guess in Tokyo there is more scrutiny what with it being the capital and all
@@Cody-5501 apparently the most famous Tokyo geishas are both Amazing artists and top class students that graduated from the Two most important universities of the city Todai and Keio (that were also attended by members of the emperial family and important politicians and It has been said that this makes them able to discuss with their costumers of really complex topics)
@@Cody-5501 Very well said.
"We Must Not Grind the Seed Corn." One of the biggest problems with child labor is that its so easy to exploit and turn into something that deadens instead of grows. Their is some irony in the fact that unpaid and underpaid workers have the least protections against exploitation.
Its not so much ironic as it is a natural consequence. Those who have protections in the first place are less likely to be doing work where they are underpaid exploited.
People need to continue to speak out about being placed in uncomfortable, unethical, harmful or dangerous situations. I've worked in healthcare for 17 years and many times i have been touched, leered at and had creepy remarks made to me within medical facilities so I'd imagine that in a more private entertainment situation like this it is even easier for things to get scary for these girls. Take care of yourselves, ladies!
@Allen Wong true, though these young ladies have the potential to put up with much more. Sigh.
@Allen Wong Men bad
@@unterhau1102 stay mad
@@killer_queen4062??? I'm just pointing out their misandrism what're you on about?
Welcome to Japan, where the things you spoke of are kept silent and where such pedo acts are normalized. You can't apply the same level of freedom and rights we have in the West to Japan. Japan is holding on to their long and outdated misogynistic values they call tradition and culture. Do some research about women's rights in Japan and you''ll soon discover that Japan is merely a country hiding behind a facade, a mask.
This is unfortunately the reality of geisha life. It doesn’t happen everywhere, but it definitely happens enough that is an issue. Japan has a lot of issues when it comes to adapting to current times and it’s a shame. It doesn’t help that the aging population is in charge and so the government will not make reforms unless their bottom line is hurt.
Hey, am I the only person who's creeped out by the idea of a 16 year old "entertaining" guests. Like, how is that legal.
Wait they don't even get paid!!!
At that age they are still considered "in training" so any performance fees go back to their "house" to pay for school tuition and room and board.
it's like football I guess... millions for the school and nothing for the student athletes
The 'entertaining' part can be classed as putting ones training into effect and being assessed.
Also, any money made automatically goes to the Mother, to pay for training, equipment - makeup, wardrobe, etc, and room & board.
It's japan
@@lookingfortruth1930 I guess you've never been in training for a traditional art? It's kinda like being a kid a performer in drama class or in school band/choir. I was in school choir and we never got paid for our concerts.
This is a clear example of abusing the system. I feel for her and it's heartbreaking that she is not shown the respect that is called for.
This is so saddening and wretched to hear about 😞
I studied abroad in Kyoto for 1 year and was invited to a teahouse where a Maiko came. I asked about poetry and how they knew all the traditional songs. I respect their knowledge of that very much.
It saddens me to hear that they also experience these hardships as well 😞
Dear Shogo, thank you for being a voice of reason regarding this type of issue. Regardless of it being female or male, the training of our youth in traditional culture should be a safe and legal environment for them. Without a safe and correct environment to encourage and interest our young people in learning about our cultures and traditions worldwide, we will lose it all. Our most precious resource is our young people. Thank you again for your courage in speaking on these difficult topics.
Anytime you have private training homes (eg. Sumo houses or maiko houses) it’s very easy to see how abuse could happen.
It could be one or two individual abusive environments, or it could be multiple abusive environments.
I hope this going viral will mean better regulation for safety? But I don’t know if that’s the case.
Thank you so much for explaining this Shogo. I hope she stays safe, and I hope you don’t feel the need to delete this. It’s so important to share what is happening behind closed doors. It’s also important to explain there are lots of kind and happy maiko and gaiko homes too! You do that eloquently.
That's what I would like to see as well.
These institutions are too private and insular to be given such powers over young girls and boys.
There needs to be national federations or unions for the profession, and there probably needs to be available legal representatives who operate outside of these training houses and who don't have professional ties to their owners. So that apprentices have someone they can call and alert about abuse that goes on.
Thank you for making this video Shogo. Topics like this are extremely important and I appreciate your coverage of it. You handled it with a lot of respect! It's important to listen to the victim with compassion―never blame them until proven otherwise. This is serious!
“Preserve and also evolve traditional culture”. This is how it will continue to survive. I appreciate this channel more and more with each new video. It makes me happy to see this channel thrive. You guys are working hard to make this dream a reality.
In my opinion, it's very illegal for the 16 year old Maiko to drink alcohol and by having a bath with other guests, this problem of sexual harassment is too much. Every woman in Japan is training to be a Maiko and already are, but I think there can be a lot of situations for being a Maiko, for me when I was born in Japan, I saw a lot of Maikos before and when I first saw them, I thought of how beautiful they looked, but when I realized about the problems of being a Maiko on Twitter, it was very shocking and it's really horrifying. I learned a lot from Shogo and I understood it a lot, thank you so much for making this video Shogo. I really appreciate it.
This must change obviously , but it's gonna be tough. A culture that cultivates secrecy and social networking like this is gonna be a breeding ground for abuse. Change is possible and necessary, but gains are gonna be hard-fought. I really love Maiko/Geisha culture and fervently hope the necessary changes can be made to preserve the precious culture for future generations and protect Maiko and Geisha from further abuse.
That is the sad reality of being a young vulnerable person, specially women, not only in Japan but all over the world. Thank you for this kind and informative video, Shogo.
I'm scared that She Will be accused of breaking the SILENCE RULE that surrounds the hanamachis activities
I am not familiar with the rules in any way shape or form, but since she is no longer a maiko, do the rules still apply? She didn't give any identifiable information
@@melvinthebravefish9788 it's a tricky topic but since what i understood what happens in those places should stay there
@@luciagianquitto4010 sounds like a giant red flag...
@@luciagianquitto4010 sounds like her customers were aware of this rule and abused it
Sounds like the silence rule should be put to rest.
"why would she talk about this now?" I'm not Japanese and all, so I dont mean to push this onto people, but I really hope that we can discourage people to see this as something suspicious.
The people who keep ancient cultures alive should be protected and and generously compensated for their commitment and skill. Tradition isn't and should not be an excuse for abuse. There are NO excuses for abuse, period. If a culture wants its traditions to last, it has no choice but to eliminate abuse and negligence, otherwise its fading into obscurity is inevitable. And it's such a shame to let traditions of arts and performance die because of stubborn and cruel aspects of it. The cruelty and neglect isn't necessary for teaching girls how to dance and sing and perform tea ceremonies. And it should be straight up illegal to cut a young person off from their family and support system. Protect them, pay them, and let them communicate with their support system, no excuse otherwise.
Please don't delete this! Foreigners and those who want to go to Japan one day need to hear your voice on this! You were able to explain this issue and your opinion so eloquently! Please keep this video!
I understand completely what you mean about not condemning the entire maiko culture because of certain bad incidents. It's like if someone has an injured limb. It can't be ignored because it will become infected and eventually cause more harm or death to that person. And we wouldn't just let that person die or say they deserve to die simply because a part of them is damaged. We treat the bad part and try to save the person. Like you said, we need to try to remove the corruption from these traditions without destroying them because they are not inherently bad. They are an important part of what makes Japan an amazing place.
Sadly sometimes you have to get rid the entire plant-pot to remove the weed
The issue is that Its so deep ingrained in Japanese society that women are treated less than, that men have innate power over women
Please don't delete this, THIS NEEDS TO BE SEEN! We need to give women a chance to tell us what is happening, us(men) have a duty to help as much as possible. It sickens me that this is going on
Also Kimono Mom could talk about this.. she was a Maiko and trained to become a Geisha. Also she is an amazing UA-camr and she has a wonderful and kind personality
Great video Mr. Shogo and thank you for your opinion. Everything has its yin and yang. So does Japanese culture and every culture in the world. Your effort is appreciated
Please don't delete this, Shogo! Raising awareness is very important for change. You have made many videos on the topic of the much-needed social and cultural changes in Japan and this type of awareness is crucial. As a big fan of Kyoto's Geimaiko, (it is a dream of mine to see the many Odori held during springtime) it saddens me to hear that the girls are treated like this. They deserve respect and safety when their lives are dedicated to training in these arts, that's the way to preserve this traditional culture - is to protect the people sustaining it from inappropriate behaviour and abuse.
Whenever I hear about Japan's bullying or harrassment problem I honestly get reminded of Japanese high schools and such, with all the strict and dehumanizing rules they have at times. There is this really strong belief in place that states Japanese people must not deviate from what the senpai says, they can't make their own choices, they are not independent, until they get to a certain level they must follow everything with a blind eye. I think this level of provocation and unrest could change if there was a vocal attempt to speak more about it, but I think it is relatively difficult because in Japan its not common for the people to stand their ground, when situations get ugly like this its often that Japanese will freeze in place and avoid going against the public opinion and taking their stress out in productive ways. This is by far and wide to me the biggest problem in Japan, and it definitely needs to change on how Japanese get in their education these attempts to take their humanity out the window and accept they must do harder at all times.
At least people don't kill 23 school children using automatic rifles in Japan....that's America
Thank you for talking about this. For raising her voice when she feels like her existence may be wiped out; how powerless must she feel right now
The thing is, for trauma victims of any form of sexual abuse. It's not something someone can open up about easily. It can take years to get the courage to speak up. Japan isn't a country where anyone really speaks their mind. I'm sure people go through a lot of hardships in silence. Considering how young she was at the time and with elders having more power in anything. The chances of her wanting to say anything is zero. This abuse is for men too, plenty of men have been sexually abused in sports, military, etc..
I'm happy she spoke up. People in Japan are going to question her because there's nobody like her. Even some people would I'm sure attempt to discredit her for the sake of protecting the image of the culture...saving-face is Asia seems to be big deal. Why don't you reach out to the victim and interview her. Do just a voice interview.
What's ridiculous here is that, underage idols also go through such issues also, especially when being hooked by older male idols (No offense to Johnny's).
Not to mention private VIP karaoke rooms with things you know what.
It's not just Maikos. There really is a lot.
Don't delete it, don't stay silent about this people need to hear this. Bless that woman for coming out with her story hopefully other young women who endured that tell their story as well their voices need to be heard
Whenever you have a situation like that, where you are studying under someone in isolation, there is a lot of potential for abuse. It completely depends on an individual's temperament, so the person in charge can be very caring and kind, or be a complete jerk who abuses people under them.
Brother, if you lived in America I would vote for you as a government official. I appreciate your dedication to preserving traditions while removing the bad things. If only every person had your mindset
Thank you for speaking out and lifting up the voices of women!! What you do is really important and impactful, thank you for standing up for those in need. Thank you also for explaining the culture and traditions behind it!
Shogo please do not delete this video your opinion matters! Especially if you are an advocate for positive change, change can not happen if there are no voices. Thank you for sharing.
Nothing is more infuriating than the exploitation of children. I recognize that this is his culture, its dear to him and not representative for the community as a whole. If there are multiple women that have fallen victim to the atrocities of repugnant, sadistic old men, those that are capable should voice their opinions. Im physically ill at the thought of children being taken advantage of. This poor women being attacked over voicing her experience is the very reason why she stayed silent for so long. There are absolutely a litany of examples where women fabricated assaults, but we all know this isn't one of those circumstances. She has nothing to gain, other than giving other abused women the courage to step forward. If you're the victim of sexual assault, regardless of the pushback, step forward. Your voice may be what gives others courage, and you can potentially save other women from becoming victims as well.
Do u enjoy pedowood movie with child actors?
I thought they weren't allowed to drink while they're working.
Drink yes. Eat not really.
Thank you for making this video, Shogo.
A lot of people dont realize that just because something is part of a culture or a tradition doesn't mean that it's free from criticism.
Shogo I have to say this maikos words were most likely true. It all depends from their okiya. I will not be stating any okiya names here, but as you would expect, if an okiya is more well known/ rich, maikos have may more protection from their onee-san and her okami-san. Less profitable ones would surely do some...rule breaches, by being less "picky" on their customers.
I had the luck to see an okaa-san's behaviour when given alcohol gifts for new years. She pretty much told them publicly that these would go to the Geikos, who were legal to drink, and not the maikos, who were still underage, despite the gifts being sent to the maikos.
This was a very rich okiya.
Unfortunately it's a business, so there will always be the awful things happening especially in less profitable business....
The fact Is if a maiko Is offered an alcholic beverage during a dinner THEY CAN'T SAY NO AND IF THEY REFUSE THEY COULD GET SCOLDED
@@luciagianquitto4010 that strongly depends on their onee-san (if she's present). Then again it's on the rude customers. That's why I'm saying less profitable okiyas who accept customers who aren't that trustworthy, must have this issue way more....
@@GrandDuchessT really? Since i watched a lot of documentaries It really looks like they literally have no say in what happens around them because the okaasan decide averything for them
@@luciagianquitto4010 exactly. If they have a "great" okaa-san, they'll most likely have a safe time.
@@GrandDuchessT i wonder what happens to geikos: they go from being sheltered and supported to having to move out and earn enough Money to buy kimonos, accessories, make up and brushes AND the Rent of a flat
NOOO. pls don't!
I want to rewatch this because maikos and geishas have become very interesting to me now in this pandemic.
And I feel that the only way we can acknowledge their efforts in this is by showing our appreciation, gratitude and respect to them.
I like this aspect of Kyoto city culture and i would love to see this video again but i feel like this could escalate quickly
"The internet never forgets" - no worries, if this is deleted, you will still be able to find it, if you dig deep enough.
Screen record it
Hopefully someone downloads and reposts it if he gets forced to take it down
i wish people in my country were as thoughtful as you.
As you can see it's a personality thing, since not all people in his country are like him
@@LaNoir. well statistically there are more like him in japan than in my country with 80 million people. i bet my life on it after living for 40 years here. and that's sad
Thank you very much for sharing your opinion. I hope you will not delete your video, because even if it turns out she is lying (unlikely but possible) what you said is still important.
Also, I understand that you are putting yourself in a tight spot by saying these things. I know that very few Japanese people understand English, and those who do probably have a modern outlook like you do. If they knew what you are telling us, they would attack you right away for putting your country in a bad light. (It happens regularly to other Japanese UA-camrs who explain some of Japan's problems in English, for example Yuta san.)
But speaking openly about problems (and that includes all the people around the world who genuinely love Japanese culture) is the only way to solve those problems without "throwing away the baby along with the bath water."
I've been studying the Japanese language for some time and I'm still studying every day. But it's still hard for me to read long tweets, let alone news articles and debates.
So I would be grateful if you could summarize the situation for us, as it evolves over the weeks.
I hope this ends up bringing the change that is needed to the dark sides of traditional culture, without shutting it down. That would be terrible.
Cheers from Italy.
Grazie! 🇺🇲🇨🇮
Its not uncommon to have "traditions" over women and children (and many traditions don't yelp young men either) and because of this many just don't bother coming out/make it public as just like this example, people just dismiss them.
It is so sad that men always trap these girls in situations like this, I’ve read about stories like this before and it is terrifying on how they have to talk themselves out of situations like this since fighting is seen as disgraceful. These girls need way more of an eye on the community since they are so young. I don’t doubt her story at all.
It’s enough for one person to start talking about these issues and there will be others who will fallow. Someone has to be first to speak for those who can’t. I hope one day this will be brought to light more often and action will be taken.
And yes Shogo it’s not the whole entertainment industry like that, there is also good people. And I hope in the future there will be more good than bad.
In this world we have a lot of bad things happening (visible and also behind “closed doors”) to a lot of people and it doesn’t matter men, woman, children, elderly… the important thing is to bring up these issues to the public eyes and to solve these problems. It may take time but first step has to be taken…
Speak for those who can’t speak and others will follow. May strength be with all of us and may there is hope for the better future. ❤️
I appreciate you making this video, not only did you express your love of traditional culture but you did it while "showing it's warts" or the bad side of the culture. You showed respect to all aspects of the issue and did not favor one part over the other, very well done.
This breaks my heart because I love the traditional Japanese culture but this is obviously so toxic and problematic
I think school shootings in America, like uvalde shooting where 23 children were killed and abortion issue in America is obviously so toxic and problematic.
Thank you for making this video and sharing your thoughts, experience and opinion 🙏🏻
Thank you for not staying silent
This doesn’t seem like a tradition that a modern, educated society should continue.
While I think the tradition of being a Geisha can be beautiful and artistic, it’s something that I feel like needs to be reserved for adults who have full knowledge and autonomy of what they are doing.
If a woman wants to become an entertainer like this once she’s an adult that’s her decision but at 16 this young lady was extremely vulnerable to abuse (which from these tweets definitely happened).
Children need to be protected. Doesn’t matter if these traditional practices are future careers for them, their lives need to be protected and not overlooked for the sake of “tradition”
The thing is there behind close doors often with Groups of men , the abuse can happen to adults as well and his probably is happening
There needs to be some kind of protection for anyone in traditional entertainment in japan. My heart goes out to the former maiko. I hope she's ok.
I am afraid that part of the problem is that to a(uninformed)western mind, there are only"Geisha",,and that means the same thing as Yujo . I would hope this typa of behavior is not condoned by a repeatable Okiya. I hope to hear more from you on this as the story develops
If you wanted to educate people into knowing the difference, maybe you shouldn't use the japanese term for prostitute 👀
@@LaNoir. no , what I meant was that some westerners still think that Geisha means prostitute so yes they do need to be taught the difference
@@LaNoir. the word "Yujo"'s meaning is very obvious here. Most people think Geisha is prostitute. Don't be a smartass.
Do not delete. I never knew that I needed to hear a voice from Kyoto Japan until I met you and your friends. And then you posted this video and I’m so glad you’re here to share what’s happening in Japan and how the Japanese people and young people are feeling. Even though we’re far apart, we need to know and hear how each other are doing, everyone, every culture, especially you a young person in Japan!Thank you 🙏 ♥️
These are the conversations that are needed for the evolution to happen.
This was so thoughtfully well-phrased. Thank you for speaking about this!
Thank you for being a beacon to bring this troubling issue to light to other places in the world
Great videos as always, so glad the world has voices like yours speaking honestly about these topics.
You can fix this problem in one easy step, require that the men have the same dedication to tradition as the women. Traditional garb, training in etiquette and all. Oh that would never happen? Sad to say that tradition is rarely there because it is meaningful and is usually there to preserve power relations.
I love how calm and graceful shogo moves while discussing the outrageous stuff of Japan towards the Gaijin audience. Great video, hope there is no need to delete.
Errant customers will always exist. It is the responsibility of the business owner to decide how to deal with such customers, and how they do it will say a lot about how they see their employee.
I don't think that this will lead to the maiko & geisha culture getting denounced internationally, but instead most of the backlash will come from within Japan. The worst will come in the form of "silent protest" from the younger generation who will no longer see any future in the traditional arts and distant themselves from it. Similar situation is already happening with corporate Japan.
Thank you very much for being so honest and serious with such a difficult topic. This video is really precious and I am thankful that you talked about a important issue like that in your own calm and empathetic way.
A beautiful decorum for what it is really, child abuse and pornography
Thank you for bringing us in on this.
I really appreciate you educating us passionate observers and trying to find a balance between tradition and quality of modern life. I have much fondness for your goal and I wish you all the best of luck.
If it does turn out that this woman was abused while working as a maiko, it will make me very sad. And in that case, I also hope this young woman gets the justice she deserves. No children should be abused.
Much love from America!
No need to delete. There is nothing here to be offended by. This is a discussion of a power dynamic that has gone on for a very long time. Not excusing it, but the societal discussion needs to be held. I have nothing to add here, but I was in another Asian country where after meeting drinking was the norm. I drink but minimally, I was ostracized as I did not get roaring drunk. That is a personal choice and why it was seen by some as culturally insensitive, I could not care less.
He means it might get taken down by another power
"preserve and evolve" two words that seem opposite but make absolute sense. Wise.
Big fan of your presentation by watching only one video, congratulations about your work
‘Why didn’t she report it until now?’ Because she was scared. Victims. Are. Scared. This makes me so mad. Just like how here in the US if a girl reports her rape years later it’s always questioned. She was scared. And worried no one would believe her.
Always nice seeing you posted. You have wonderful insight and perspective
The combination of the young age of maiko as professionals, the gender inequality of society and the lack of transparency in this industry makes it very difficult for similar issues to surface. Thinking back to being 16 years of age, it would be so difficult to speak up especially when living away from family and friends. The impact of these poor practices do not only impact the individual but also cast a shadow on the industry that supports so much of traditional practices and beauty, especially when the number of new recruits has been on a decline. From a foreign visitor standpoint, I think many of us want to support the right cause while getting a taste of tradition. As Shogo-san mentioned, there are definitely businesses and business owners who care about the maiko and geiko working with them and likely put safety measures in place to protect them. If only there is a way to tell which businesses care before we pay patronage them.
Thank you for making this! I know it must’ve been heavy on your heart.
I hope this video doesn’t get deleted! But yes half an eye out on the situation to see if it would be needed.
But no matter what I will keep the message in my heart that not all traditional houses of Japanese culture are are hurting their young & that the traditional cultures can be evolved & preserved!❤️
Thank you for making a video on this topic, I learned a lot. It’s so sad to know so many people have gone through stuff like this.
It’s appalling for people to criticize sexual victims when they haven’t experienced assault themselves.
I really admire your dream thank you for bringing attention to such an important topic I hope such horrible things don't continue to happen behind closed doors 🙏🏻
Thank you so much for posting this. Please leave this video up. This is very helpful for someone who has also seen the dark sides in some traditional Zen training. It's very helpful for people to see videos like this as it shows we are not alone. Traditional Japan is having its metoo movement
Your videos, yourself/loved ones, and all are such gifts to the world. Thank you eternally and thinking kindly of all of y’all always from the West Coast of America 💕🌸✨🙏🏻😭
Thank you Shogo san for letting us know much more about Japanese Maiko culture & tradition, appreciated 🙏🏻
please don't delete this video, I think it's extremely important to discuss the harmful parts of certain traditions or cultures that people don't know about. I think I speak for many people that watch your videos that a tradition or culture should not be embraced if it involves endangering children and teenagers. being forced to drink alcohol and take baths with strangers as part of a traditional job sets a dangerous precedent for allowing these harmful acts to continue happening to young people, who often lack the authority or agency to refuse. young girls especially face abusive situations in their preteen and teen years, and unless they speak up about their experiences it will continue to happen.
it really is a shame to see such people suffer. I love Japan, the language, the culture, the arts and the history. I love it all. I have so much respect for those people that have gone through so much and still live on with their lives, they are very strong.
But don't forget, Japan had problems with child por*. Thus why there are so many lolees and cuteness
Thank you so much for your thoughtful response. When I heard about this my first thought was to seek out your channel as it is so honest and informative. It's heartbreaking to hear that such things continue to happen but as many other comments have said, it happens around the world in all sorts of institutions where there are vulnerable people who can be manipulated. Japan's traditional culture is beautiful and I greatly admire your resolve to try to bring it to the world and encourage it to change.
Thank you for being brave and posting this
please do not delet this video,this is important information no matter what happens in the future
I watched a sad documentary on NHK World tv recently about a festival being cancelled due to lack of children. The festival is supposed to include a part where several children under the age of twelve do a traditional dance. Sadly, there were no. more children, or even teenagers in the village any more.
Great video and you did a great job discussing this. I'm watching it late so I'm glad the video is still up!