Tywin's Funeral - AFFC Cersei II read-through - A Song of Ice and Fire - Game of Thrones
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Tywin’s funeral is Cersei’s second POV chapter, and the descent into madness and paranoia - and into Qyburn’s doings in the Black Cells with Ser Gregor - grows ever more alluring. The best inner monologue of any character in the series, hands down.
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My favorite thing to do lately is turn on a David Lightbringer podcast episode as I fall asleep each night.
Been doing that a while now or listening to Roy Dotrice say names incorrect from Audible. David...he has a radio voice but not unnatural. Keeps the nightmares away. (Lost my son 2 years ago)
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Same 😂
I tried that once. I was awake for over 2 hours until the podcast ended :D
@@Valkanna.Nublet Oh my lol.
_"They found a chamber full of skull and yellowed bones"_ along with _"Tarnished silver from the reign of Viserys I"_
Forget Cersei's paranoia, we need to get to the bottom of the mystery of the bones and silver.
Totally! That's from the era of House of the dragon!
@@amandaofhouserobinson6707 Was it Blood or Cheese who were never found?
@@Walkth15way oh good point!! Shit I don't remember which one it was! But that has to be it! Good catch!
"They'll remember Tywin only as Queen Cersei's sire" is big Theon-talking-about-Balon energy.
lol Cersei wants to infiltrate Margaery's clique but Margaery has to actually send one of her own to befriend Cersei because Cersei has no friend group to infiltrate.
Tywin is a covert narcissist, Cersei is an overt narcissist and joffrey is a grandiose narcissist. pretty incredible how well George portrays these three very different forms of narcissism so effectively.
wow didn't know there was a grandiose one, thanks!
Jamie and Tyrion are the only ones who aren’t narcissistic they have a lot of flaws but they admit to them
Re: creepy qyburn you just KNOW when he was talking about the hole in the mountain’s side he was giving off “ you wanna see it !?!” Vibes
In Tyrion's pov there's a quote about how Kevan had never had a thought Tyein hadn't had first.
Given Kevan's advice to Cersei in this chapter I wonder how true that is, and how many of Tywin's plans/ideas could have originated from Kevan.
The fertilized egg coming right after talking about the "meal she would sooner have served Margaery Tyrell" is a clue that Margaery's eggs have already been fertilized.
oh okay very clever
Tywin interrogates Cersei after Joffrey says "A strong king acts boldly" and Cersei says it came from Robert. Seems like it might have come from Cersei...
Love the new look. You are our Egg David. ❤
Yea it's very nice looking
Straight away the symbolism is insane, we’ve got an archetypal Child of the Forrest/Green Woman in Cersei symbolically calling forth a storm and lightning in her rage with lightning (a symbolic hammer) shaking the ground which is a clear Hammer of the Waters reference
While also wishing for the ice and snow, sounding like the long night
And the reason for this green woman wishes for the hammer of the waters is because of a wedding…
yeah she's doing corpse stuff there too. The Tower of the Hand burning is setting the wwnet on fire for sure. Thanks for the breakdown Eldric and always good to hear from you. Love to have you on pretty much whenever we can schedule it :)
@@DavidLightbringer absolutely man, keen as
I feel like that one line from Martin... "silver coins from the reign of King Viserys I" (paraphrasing a bit)... feels like it's almost to specific, perhaps a subtle hint at Blood & Cheese? I wonder if S2 of HOTD will touch on this. As always, fantastic video Dave! Keep up the great work
Given how often Qyburn name drops Marwyn, he probably has a significant amount of admiration for him. So if they do meet again Qyburn will probably be looking to impress him.
In the show UnGregor smashed Qyburn on a wall and that actually might be a fitting end for him. George's many awful villains might be horrible to think about but it's fun when they clash against each other. In this chapter Cersei actually wanted to be merciful to Clegane but then she gave him to Qyburn. I actually experienced schadenfreude at that point and then was horrified at myself
Another quality stream David, as a fellow ASOIAF fan I appreciate these deep dive streams
Catching up on the video because I couldn't make the live stream, I get to you saying oh no, I meant to read Cersei II not III..Should we start over? and getting ready to leave a comment making a WE SHOULD START BACK connection, thinking I'm so clever...and then the live chat beat me to it :( LOL love it!
Cersei is my favorite psychopath
I was rooting for you, Dave! You had the voice for Egg. You just grew three sizes too tall. Try out for Bloodraven or The Fiddler. 🎻🤴 You would rock those roles! 🫶Great stream, ser. You read Cersei well!
2:08:50 Kevan speaking facts to Cersei"s face lol
Yaddle is red of hair, Kissed by fire.
Cersei is so mean 😭😭😭
lmao cersei is funny af. sassy lil villian biiii
yea she a baddie fr😂
I almost didn’t give a like because it was on 420 😂….. great stream man, thank you, Cersei’s chapters really are some of my favourites
glad to know ser lightbringer also watches the nightmare fuel cave diving accident videos late at night. 😂
David is getting more like GRRM every day. Now he is abandoning his work and starting over. 😂 David’s Cersei gap.
Praise be unto David
Cersei!!!! 😍 She's my favorite. I'm about to finally paint my miniature of her for the ASOIAF miniatures game.
Thanks!
The round cranium is pleasant.
Always on point, Dave! No better Aegg, in my opinion!
Just catching this now…love the new do David….🎉😂❤
That was a badass stream! Lovin' the new look
This chapter perfectly highlights how Kevan is the best Lannister and Cersei is the worst. Kevan demonstrates an intelligence and insight comparable to Tywin or Tyrion but doesn't appear to be burdened with the narcissism or emotional trauma that Tywin has spread throughout his family. Meanwhile Cersei barely thinks twice about giving up Sir Gregor for torturous experimentation and death, after his years of faithful service to House Lannister which has benefited her most recently, all the while questioning the "loyalty" of everyone around her, most of whom have already done more for her than she ever has for anyone.
OMG not you reading the “wrong” chapter. 😂😂 WGAF So glad you ultimately decided to just roll with it and abandoned ship so we could revisit Cersei 2. 👏🏼😜
OK fine it's Tyrion (only?) who has dragon dreams and it's more compelling if Cersei and Aerys are unrelated while having the parallels... still, anything is possible! It's just more interesting and ironic if Tywin is not the dad of the good-looking-but-disappointing twins, and the actual dad of the less-attractive-but-clever one. External vs internal traits, reflecting Tywin's legacy that was all just about appearances.
Before I read the books, I started the show. I was convinced Cersei would end up victorious above all in a bittersweet twist. Now that I’ve read the books, I no longer think that, but do feel she will end up showing up to the party when all seems lost for her to only find an epic demise.
Great stream, thanks LML! Haircut looks sharp
So apparently Oberyn studied magic as well as poisons at the Citadel. It might stand to reason then that one or more of his daughters would also have a working knowledge of magic, as he seems to have passed his various skills on to them. Being a protege of Marwyn Sarella almost certainly has some understanding of the arcane arts, but it's equally possible that Nym or Tyne might also have such knowledge as they both seem to have learned something of poisons from Oberyn.
Thanks again
This lack of luscious locks is giving me some PTSD….
Thanks man
You shaved your head? Come on man. I loved those locks. They looked great on you.
I feel you, I thought they were very fitting as well. But change is a constant. And the locks still exist in your memories, even if he's not rocking them currently. 😌
night gathers and my watch begins
Gutted I missed the stream. 7am NZST was ambitious for me!
LMAO olenna sounds like yoda 😭
Arys blowing up the city to sour the rebellion victory reminds me of hitler speeding up the killings of innocents instead of retreating and re strategizing when he was losing the war
you're righ, Dave, Cersei is obviously a narcissist. If you want to know about the Cluster B group (very useful in the modern world), I recommend the UA-cam channels of Dr Ramani,Sam Vaknin & HG Tudor.
Its so infuriating hearing all the dumb choices Cersei makes. For example making Randyll Tarly Hand would be a really smart choice for Cersei to make with the in-story information she has.
But it's so much more fun when she gets everything wrong.
It makes me laugh and drives me crazy, listening to people dream up so many theories. Cersei being the mad kings daughter, just because she's crazy. They forget that Joanna was related to Tywin, Jamie and Cercei are children of incest, and incest is the reason for Targayan madness.
They also forget, before they start comparing her to Aers. Tywin is a phyco as well. The man ordered the butchery of Ellia and her children, attempted Genocide on the Targayans. And let's not forget tne Genocide he committed on House Rhaine.
Phyco farther + incest = Insanity
I tend to think the younger more beautiful queen is Dany
It is. Or potentially Sansa somehow, maybe. Just like the Valenquor (sp?) is Jamie and not Tyrion. Cersei getting her prophecy wrong at every turn is kind of her thing. She can't see the forest for the trees with all her paranoia. Makes her so fun to read along to 😊😁
Commenting for engagement yo
Rewatch love!!!
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I just came back from watching the heart of winter podcast and how tf this guy aged up by 20 years in the span of 2 ??
Your head resemble s an egg so i cant see why they coukdnt use but we all love you and your storytelling
Love your round head too 😂
@David Lightbringer sorry to go off topic but i think i figured out where lightbringer comes from . if you google saint seiya alberich your will see he he has a ice sword covered in fire he can also comunicate with nature spirits which results in tree's fighting for him . he gets defeated by the water dragon knight who also recieved excalibur from the capricorn knight .
None of the Tywin artwork is quite right, they all missed the stink-lines.
Yahoo!
Why didn't Cersi just kill Lansel if she was concerned about her secrets ? ☄️☄️☄️☄️
The Maegor critics annoy me, Maegor at first wasn't that bad. It wasn't until after he brought down the faith militant that he began to change. In that final battle he took a life threatening blow to the head. That kind of head trauma can cause brain damage. They never think about how good he was in the beginning, and they certainly don't think his change was caused by brain damage.
True that Bonding with a dragon can make the Targayans immune to illness., but nowhere does it say it can stop you from being physically damaged by injury, it just makes it less likely for the injury to become infected or kill you. Eg, if you ioose your hand in battle, the bond won't make your hand grow back, but your less, likely to die from an infection while it heals.
Same for, Maegor, the dragon bond would have roped his injury becoming infected but it wouldn't have grown back any aspect of his brain that was beyond repair. In Deep Geek did a very good video on Maegor going into this possibility in depth, and I think it is very likely the reason for his change.
he was already a monstrously cruel psychopath before this event.
people who defend maegor in any way are who annoy me. because your moral compass is utterly broken, and you guys always have to change the story to defend your champion daddy genocide king. pretty gross actually, not annoying, that's what I meant to say. morally reprehensible. Terrible take on your part.
"The maegor critics annoy me" you might be the biggest dumbass in the entire fandom good lord. what's wrong with you
@@DavidLightbringer with a mother like Visenia he was bound to be cold. But cold and completely psychotic aren't the same thing. After that point he was just ruthless and cold. He became unstable and merciless. The fact that you clearly are one of the people that are too shallow to come up with any open minded theories shows your not worth the subscription. Go and copy and paste a delusional theory because you are clearly not capable of intelligent conversation without a script.
Selphie, I did 3 3-hour live streams reading through and discussing every sentence about Maegor in Fire and Blood. I can both foster discussion without a script as well as read the story coherently. You are categorically and definitely wrong. The character was written to embody the word psychopath, has no redeemable traits save martial prowess, and committed countless murders, tortures, and even genocided all of House Harroway. "Maegor wasnt actually cruel" is the wrongest take in the entire fandom. in no sense was his story written for people like you to squint at it and be like "well actually..."
you're a grade A moron
I have as many original theories as any ASOIAF UA-cam channel, but if you're for "Maegor was misunderstood" you won't find that here
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1:03:31 dude it's the ICE-SEPTON
that's him!!
5:55 im with cersei✨️🫶😅😭
chaos is the only way to restart & rebuild from an oppressive regime 🤷♀️
fun video! thanks!
About to catch the rewatch at work. Can't wait!