Diver Records Doom | Last Moments
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- Опубліковано 23 кві 2020
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"David John Shaw (20 July 1954 - 8 January 2005) was an Australian scuba diver, technical diver, and airline pilot for Cathay Pacific, flying the Lockheed L-1011 Tristar, then the 747-400, and then the A330-300, A340-300, and A340-600. He flew for Cathay Pacific from 1989 until his death in 2005. Before flying for Cathay Pacific he flew for Missionary Aviation Fellowship in Papua New Guinea and Tanzania. He also flew agricultural aircraft in South Australia and New South Wales.
Shaw died on 8 January 2005 while endeavoring to recover the body of Deon Dreyer.
Shaw recorded his dive with an underwater camera, which allowed researchers to determine that he suffered from respiratory issues due to the high pressure. Shaw ran into difficulties when the body unexpectedly began to float. Shaw had been advised by various experts that the body would remain negatively buoyant because the visible parts were reduced to the skeleton. However, within his wetsuit, Dreyer's corpse had turned into a soap-like substance called adipocere, which floats. Shaw had been working with both hands, and so had been resting his can light on the cave floor. The powerful underwater lights that cave divers use are connected by wires to heavy battery canisters, normally worn on the cave diver's waist, or sometimes attached to their tanks. Normally he would have wrapped the wire behind his neck, but he was unable to do so; the lines from the body bag appear to have become entangled with the light head, and the physical effort of trying to free himself led to his death. Three days later, both of the bodies floated up to near the surface as the dive team was retrieving their equipment.
The dive on which Shaw died was the 333rd of his career. At the time of his world record setting dive, he had been diving for a little over five years."
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When this happened less than 10 people have dived to below 250 meters, fewer people than have walked on the moon. David Shaw was one of these few people.
We use this video in our training class. Not this exact video but the video of the dive. This guy misses a lot key points that lead to his death.
Insane how deadly the ocean is to humans, and more-so how we haven't got good methods/equipment to safely dive not even 1/4 a km (as a human - subs not included)
Dave walked on the moon?
@@csb772 just out of curiosity could you point some stuff out? I'm pretty interested to see
Didn't count he was dead when he sank that low
That gave me chills "Daves not coming back"
Dave's not here man.
Rip Dave KIA
Autistic Pigeon i think KIA is used in the military but ok
No it could be used if he was actually killed, but he just died
Autistic Pigeon he wasn’t really in “action” but okay
I can’t believe Don was vomiting and trying to breathe for hours while changing tanks without the broken equipment and managed to keep himself alive for hours. He has such a strong will you live. He could have thought about how bad thing are and given up. This is a tragic story but his survival is it’s own story in itself
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@@watcher805 bruh
@@renameagain5808 what is it Butcher
Very true
@@watcher805 you’re cringe af
For those asking….if you’ve never seen what happens to a dead body underwater let me explain. They still decompose… they leak,bloat and explode…some go through late-stage postmortem decomp also called adipocere, etc. All those things contaminate the water and that’s why it’s really important to get them out as soon as possible. Also, another reason is that sometimes people pass away in popular dive locations, and unless the body is recovered they can’t allow people to continue to go in there. Alot of times these tragedies happen inside of state parks etc…and the parks usually just want the body out so that they can continue having people come in and use that dive spot. My entire family, including myself are all CCR (closed circuit rebreather) certified cave divers, and both of my parents spent four years doing body recovery. So there are environmental reasons and other contributing factors why we want to get bodies out. We can usually test the water to see if something is decomposing in there…. if the water shows no decomposition but we haven’t located a body, we usually can tell that either there’s no body in there or it’s not in the water. If something is decomposing in the water and we cannot either locate or retrieve the body, we usually seal off the cave. Yes, people want the bodies of their loved ones but there are so many reasons we recover bodies…
very fascinating! Thank you for sharing that info
What would happen if someone dive to contaminate water
Why is it bad to dive in contaminated water? Animals do decompose in water too if dying there... 🤔 Awsome info on the matter!👌
@@controversy3032 land mammals decompose in water all the time too, lol. Polar bears, grizzly bears, deer, moose, all die in and around water- rivers, lakes, ponds, streams..
Nobody dived it to that depth except those two. There was no benefit
the man literally looked into the eyes of another deadman, at that point ur fate is pretty much sealed
yeah its chilling and sad
You can use a computer, but you can't figure out capitalization, or how to spell "your" like a big boy.
@@slappy8941 Grammar Nazi...
@@slappy8941 If you have any friends you'd know that it's the least of anyone's concern nowadays
@@slappy8941 Look above and realize most people anymore just think people such as yourself are the idiot here. We don't care which "your" or "Their" we use... we are not writing a Thesis, we are writing UA-cam comments for fuck sake stupid.
My diving instructor died looking for cracks in dams. That was his main job. Unfortunately there was a big crack than they anticipated and he was glued to the dam wall due to the pressure sucking and holding him there. He ran out of air before they could get a team to extract him. I quit taking diving lessons.
Sorry to hear that. It's awful.
holy shit, thats awful. Hopefully they'll use robots instead
ΔΡ
Yeah, diving is something I'm never attempting.
Thats horrifying, cant imagine the feeling of being sucked by a crack underwater, must of been extremeley difficult to extract him from it. Thanks for sharing
The thing that really bothers me about this story is that, eventually they got Shaw and Dreyers bodies out as they had floated to the area that rescue divers could reach them. The Dreyer family took their son, had him cremated and then they dumped his ashes right back into the hole he dies in. What a freakin waste!!
They did ? Omg I missed that ! Horrendous
So another man died, with another suffering extreme injuries and trauma, just so they could put their son back in the hole they'd just fished him out of? What a damn waste of life!
Oh damn. Wtf
Didnt think id ever say this about the parents of a dead man but damn. What a bunch of wankers
I had not heard about that. People's actions are incomprehensible sometimes...
Dave Shaw actually dreamed of finding a body diving. Dave said when he found Deon, that Deon was in the same exact position as in Dave's dream. Thats why he was connected to the body.
When they came back to recover his body they had a line hooked to him. They pulled him up and noticed he had an extra line hooked to him. When they pulled it up they realised it was tied to the original body they had come for. So dave had kept his promise and brought their son home.
Damn...
Firstname Lastname is allowed
Bruh that’s just sad
Dude.... 😢
Wow....
Man ending your life to bring someone else closure
I'm a diver and mountain climber. The one thing I've always told my diving/climbing partners is that, if something happens to me, I do NOT want anyone to risk their lives just to bring my body back.
Hell no. Let me lie. Least I died diving. Doing something I love. Celebrate my death.
Yeah, unless you can safely get the body dont do it.
@@Jshaw6614 agreed
What is the point of recovering a body really? What will be done to it? What value does it bring?
@@xissburg Closure for family, some people can't really believe their loved one is dead until they see the casket. It ends the story of the person who lived by telling the living one's that he is gone. It's just to help people accept the death.
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Oh my god
How r u bro u recovered or not
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How do you fall asleep listening to stories about someone's final moments. I'm too scared of these videos to sleep lol
@@wingjaigaming8240he makes videos. He probably listens to tales from the bottle
This was a very respectful commentary, narrated without sensationalism nor judgmentalism. Thank you for honoring the memories of both Dave and Deon.
ABSOLUTELY!
I feel so bad for his parents. their son dies and when the parents are told people are going to get the body, someone else dies in trying to help them and one is injured.
Dude, punctuation is free. Don't be an idiot.
@@slappy8941 bruh it takes time all of it adds up imagine if i were to text with good punctuation probbaly be a week of amount of time ive saved just because i dont worry about punctuation but it stilll gets the message across
@@jyrone3943 Especially when you consider the poor person trying to read it. It wastes their time, from them having to drop in where the punctuation should be.
@@Pantheragem what like two seconds?
at least I understood this comment, but yes punctuation is important in some context. take a look at funny headlines that were actually released.
I personally feel if that was my son. I would've called that cave his grave. I seriously wouldn't want any other person to jeopardize their life to recover his body.
i mean it was daves idea so 🤷♀️
Same here I would talk him out if it
Cave grave rave
If i was dave i would have gave up on recovering the body as soon as i felt the slightest amount of sickness
That's easy to say post mortem. If an experienced diver came and offered to dive it's not in their hands to say yes or no. Racing motorbikes is dangerous but you don't get out and tell Rossi not to ride. Dave Shaw was an Aussie hero and is an Aussie legend. Nobody can take that away from him
It's amazing Don survived. Almost everyone would die in that situation, including Don, which probably means everyone. If he had missed the line as he reached out for it, he would be dead.
This goes to show that no matter how experienced you are and how many professionals you have watching over for your safety. THINGS CAN ALWAYS GO WRONG
"Dave's not coming back" that's the most disturbing shit I've ever heard.
Well he did come back but not on his own.
@Nick does Quad drumming Yeah... That is not a good way to die :/
@@feexy41 at least he didn't turn in to corpse wax.😰
Daves not here man.
it was the note that Don wrote when the first diver met him in his way back up at 120m. "Dave not coming back"
"He saw Dave's light off in the distance... But it wasn't moving" that image just freaks me out. Frozen in death and time, out in the water...
How was his light on for 10 years
@@otraves4236 It was later that same day. Dion's body had been down there for 10 years, Dave and his team went to recover it, and then Dave died during the recovery effort.
Literate Idiot the real video type in Dave Shaw’s last dive
otra ves it was Dave’s light not Dion’s
It could just mean a fish swam past it for a second though
Respect to dave.. He did what he promised. may his soul rest in peace.
Probably promised his family hed be coming home. That his kids would have a daddy. Just irresponsible and stupid.
@@a.nobodys.nobody You must be great at funerals
This channel and this story was the first UA-cam channel I watched when my 50-year-old self finally decided to see what all the UA-cam fuss was about a few years ago.
This story BREAKS MY HEART. Dion's parents never should have asked that of Dave and I'm sure they feel horrible about it. If it were one of my 4 adult kids I would at least be comforted that they died doing what they love most in the world. It's no different than scattering his ashes into the sea in my opinion.
You are an incredible narrator and give the victims the respect they deserve. Thank you!
I don’t even think they did ask it of him. I got the impression from the video that he decided to do it for them, rather than them deciding to request it of him
@@MyratheDunmer You're broadly correct.
The effort was mostly Shaw's own initiative to help combined with him wanting to make a documentary on deep dives and body recoveries, which if completed may have paved the way for recoveries in the future.
The parents did not openly request Dave to retrieve their son, he just had an idea to do a good deed and shoot a valuable documentary at the same time.
I second THAT! Excellent work -
Additionally, what's insane is... They were doing a small gathering after finding that they weren't coming back.. speaking of them fondly, only for both of the bodies to suddenly surface.
Scary.. sad.. and amazing all at once.
@Xelocon that the bodies showed up after they were talking about them
@Xelocon Because they didn't think the bodies were coming back.
@@peterhoulihan9766 But people were pulling on the ropes? Surely the ropes'd be connected to everyone's bodies?
@@cate01a Not the way your thinking. Would have only served to tangle him/them up. Given that it WAS line(s) he got tangled in that heavily contributed to his death.
The bodies didn’t really surface, they floated up to the roof of the cave where they were later found by a dive team gathering up equipment
I find that not doing activities like this help me not die.
Fax
Indubitably
You still alive?
Same
OP is kill
The way he looks into the camera and is in the dark, feels so raw and human, you can tell he really feels the stories and not just tells them.
Funny, I feel the exact opposite. In the dark to try and seem spooky, while using other people's footage and not crediting the sources. Kinda sleazy and cheesy.
@@aussiechris5904 😐
@@aussiechris5904 Cause it is sleazy and lazy.
@@aussiechris5904I agree he also became a millioner recently
I'm an underwater cave diver for just about 4yrs in the Philippines, but I have also traveled and explored underwater caves in Indonesia and Thailand, it is really fun doing activities like this, but there is also danger, I remember my 12th cave diving in Philippines "paglugaban cave" in palawan one of our teammates got his foot stuck between rocks, luckily it is not a very deep cave, we are just about to enter the cave when his foot got stuck, luckily it just took 4mins that we managed to pull his foot out, I got panicked because it is my first time seeing tragic like that, I mean first it's underwater, and secondly the fear that we will not able to pull him. And I'm happy that last 2 months my last dive nothing tragic happened and my teammates are ok, I wish all my co-divers out there, that they're no tragic or accidents will happen to you, keep safe in diving
Imagine spending 12 hours getting back to the surface. Lots of time to think.
I would not be able to take it I have anxiety issues and that would fuck me up
@@Evergreen1400 Same here and I'm claustrophobic too.
he wasn't aware of his full mental state for months, i think he was just surviving in a semicoma for the 12 hours alone, and probably the months after. they had to put him in a special oxygen/co2 ratio for a week after he was rescued and healed. i really do think he was unable to think, just his senses.
Ya, thinking stuff like "If you can't change your future by changing the past, then how did captain America become an old man by staying back in time?"
look up the guy who was stuck underwater for 3 days
For those who don’t know, 270 meters (885 feet) is an incredible depth to dive at. Basic divers are only trained to go 20m, while more advanced divers might go up to 70m tops. 270 meters is absolutely bananas, especially in a cave.
Thanks Mr kaczynski very cool
Thanks Ted, nice to see you have internet access in there 😆
Thanks you Ted
Thanks for the obvious repetitive comment
Exactly, and even þen, depending on where you are, þe regulation doesn’t allow to go as deep as 70 meters but, for exemple wiþin þe FFESSM, 60 meters wiþout any tolerance for any additional meters
Dave's decision to retrive dreyers remain was outrageous, being a family man with wife n childrens his decision of retrival was uncalled for. Unfortunately he chose to gameble his family's future over a decade old skeletal remain. RIP.
I feel like his ego took over his common sense. Believing that esince he found him once, he’d have no problem retrieving him.
I was initially mad at the parents for risking someone else’s life, for bones. But I’m sure Dave probably told the parents it would be “no problem”
I do know that when they both were recovered the parents of the younger guy sat with his corpse for hours. Very, very odd. Especially since he’d been reduced to corpse wax 😬
@@nunyanope4988 he did the dive to prove that he could repeat it. Of course ego played a roll but was not the determining factor.
Agree
My thoughts exactly, he traded his children's future with their Dad, for a dead body. And maybe 15 minutes of fame. 😢
Reckless. He had a responsibility to come home to his family and failed them. I would be mad/hurt, no doubt.
I remember reading about this a long time ago. Dave had actually tied the rope to Deandres body on his first dive so he could find him. And on his second dive he had a rope tied to himself and attached to the guide rope so he could find his way back to it from the body just in case something happened. So when they pulled up the guide rope that had all the tanks on it eventually it also pulled Dave up and then also Deandre. I alway wondered why divers don’t use a rope attached to them to find their way back or if need be to pull them out if they get lost or die. Dave’s buddy who went to find him and his gear broke should have just been able to grab a rope and tug on it to get Dave to come back or started pulling it if he thought Dave was in trouble.
As far as my limited understanding: it seems like our body cannot ascend quickly withouy dying. Even Don who was critical at a shallower depth needed 12 hours to ascend, and with great effort from the team. Once Don saw that the light wasn't moving it was over.
The line might help, but with such poor visibility and the effects of diving gas and pressure, figuring out which thing coming off your body is the line at all seems to be difficult, and even if you do find the line, it's not exactly taut, and lengths of it might have drifted deeper, leading you down or in circles instead of up.
@@aquageist that's true I always imagine a tight rope you can pull on to ascend, but it would be flopping everywhere in the water so you atill have to ascend somehow and not straight up maybe sideways or down for a while.. scary thanks for your input very interesting
The ropes also carry an entanglement risk. It can snag on the terrain, or your gear, in unfortunate ways at critical moments...
Probably because if it was that simple then they would be doing already. Clearly this is one of the most dangerous things a human can do and if any little thing goes wrong you're basically screwed.
When the goggles turned towards him, that’s some spooky shit out of a movie. But it’s real.
And the fact his head was decapitated from his body is so scary, a bad choice they made to go down there
@@rrauly1166 when does it mention it was decapitated lol
@Atomic Scarecrow 9:56
@@cosmiclevi5274 if you read the story on the internet, it says his leg and head were both off his body
@@rrauly1166 ok that's creepy
10:01 I feel Dave at this moment must have realized the true gravity of the situation he had put himself in. To literally look a dead man in the face who died exactly where you stand, hundreds of feet beneath the surface in the blackness of the water and realize that you are walking a thin line between life and death, as your head spins and you begin to lose control. Chilling as hell to put yourself in the shoes of.
Dang son
Oh hello Death not nice to meet you
he looks as if he was fiddling with the blade too much. He was clearly losing focus and unable to handle the situation.
I’m to scared to look at the skull
the gravity of the situation? is that a JOJO reference?
I love how humanizing and compassionate your last comments are. Well done.
I feel so bad for Dion's parents. David was a record holding diver, and they weren't divers themselves, so I doubt they realized how dangerous this was for him.
He'd been to the bottom of Bushman's hole before, but going down just to set a record and then come straight back up is a lot different than trying to retrieve a body, especially one that's highly decomposed.
This is a fine example of "Some things are better left Untouched"
DIYtechnology no it isnt they wanted there son back
@@uwumaster9512 and Dave's family want him
@@uwumaster9512 it was daves idea not the family.
Yes indeed why would some one let any1 risk their lives like this
Even tho they are Pros at diving this is just way to far like why would someone do this
Yup
It’s now a general rule in cave diving to leave bodies where they lay, because this isn’t an isolated incident
Should have been a rule from the jump, dangerous as it is already diving alive but to go get a dead mf is just insane...he died having a ego
Truth…that was like digging up someone at the cemetery but way more dangerous. What happened to him was unfortunate, but that had become is resting place and they just had to go down there fucking with him.
@@brazymoneybaggmelo2398 David Shaw was anything but egotistical, he was an amazing human and one of the greatest technical divers in history. To talk of him as a glory seeking individual is very disrespectful.
@@melikesleepy well yea I'm pretty sure he was a good person wen he was in his right State of mind,"all of us"..but he made a stupid decision,ain't my fault,just call it like it is,that was very stupid of him to go do a mission like that,tf🤔
@mikhael a promise to a complete stranger can be broken, a promise he made to his wife CAN NOT
My favorite telling of this story. Thank you for giving Shaw the respect he deserves, it was a noble thing he was doing.
"5 minutes recovering the body" doesn't seem nearly enough. Especially considering that Dave believed Deon's body to be stuck in mud (as it was when Dave found him the first time, but had since become unstuck). But I understand that you can't stay long at such depth.
Dave's original plan was to detach Deon's tanks (which where keeping the body stuck in the mud), then put him in the bag, all the while making sure that Deon's head or feet or hands didn't detach from the body (as the only parts of the body outside of the diving suit).
Except when he reached Deon's body this second time, Dave realized that Deon had become unstuck. So when Dave reached for him, he had a whole decomposed body to try and control underwater, rather than a still body to simply work a body bag over.
The first thing Dave did was put Deon's feet and legs in the bag, and only then he tried to detach the tanks, but soon enough he noticed a problem: the rope Dave had used to connect Deon to the main guide line had become entangled with the body.
As you can see in the footage, pretty early on Dave had to disentangle his own light from the line. After failing to free Deon, Dave gave up and started making his way up, most likely thinking of trying again another time, with a plan to tackle a free floating body with tanks and rope all over.
But as he was leaving Deon's body, Dave realized that he'd become entangled in the line as well.
He spent his last moments trying to cut the line and be free.
This is exactly why the dead are left on Everest. Adding a belated comment: It’s like anything in life, you throw enough cash at a problem it will be solved. Fame too maybe. The hunt for the remains of Mallory and Irvine is a good example even though they weren’t in the death zone.
2 reason actually
But yes mostly because rescue attempt is hard
@@projectkepleren Hard is low. Balling it. Life threatening and extremely difficult maybe? Wellness on you.
@@joshrandal6982 yeah it's super dangerous to recover body and kinda not worth it
@@projectkepleren they become place markers.
This is the thing that makes me the most depressed. Someone killing themselves to honor someone who has died. It really isn't worth it, in my opinion. I don't think the living should kill themselves to put a body in the ground.
the uncontrollable vomiting in between breaths and barely even being able to breathe, all while in scuba-diving gear, is the most horrifying part to me.
Don't forget it took them 12 hours to bring him to the surface...after he'd already began vomiting.
puking in my motorbike helmet(while doing 90 on the motorway) was bad enough for me, crazy why people do these dangerous deeds WHY
@@bobmiller7502 I think that about motorbikes. U can be as safe as u want but there's always gonna be potential idiots driving around u. I love superbikes but i can't get one for that reason
And somehow he's the one that survived 😯
You can blow chunks through a regulator. It’s dangerous and nasty but as long as you keep your mouth gripped on it, you can still breathe between each stomach convulsion.
Such a well and respectful way to tell the story. Being a diver myself I cried the whole way through it especially the fumbling around. I experienced the drunk feeling at only 100ft and realized I was laughing and giggling as I was swimming with my fellow divers. I quickly went up 5ft and thank God it stopped because it had just started. Plus it was nothing like this whatsoever. Personally this is why I’m adamant no matter who what where and why you always always always have a dive buddy with you. While the same probably would’ve happened to both we will never know. This man is my hero. Heart of pure gold. Rest in peace. 💔💔💔☀️☀️☀️
Dave Shaw was a pilot of a major airliner flying Airbuses and 747's also was a scuba diver what a interesting career.
I remember when this happened. As a former commercial diver, I've never fully understood why people do this kind of diving. 250m+ is crazy deep on scuba.
He was literally one of only ten people who had done so at the time.
Still, when you think about the cause, can you blame him? No one was more qualified, and he was willing to do the job. One or two circumstances change (like the tanks getting unstuck) and he likely makes it out alive.
Because people are stupid that's why
@@CGoody564 yes I can blame him. What a stupid fucking thing to do, throwing your life away to recover a fucking corpse.
I can't even understand how such dives are possible
@@FunkyEspelhoCat They are possible. But, no comms, no tether to the surface, a finite supply of breathing gas, no standby diver or partner to help you. Even in a well organised commercial situation with all of the above, it is an extremely risky undertaking. 12 hours in water decompression? It's not suicide. But, the risks are very, very high.
I'm sorry but this is the absolute most terrifying thing I have ever witnessed. Pure terror. Can you imagine how isolated it felt to be in a pitch black, freezing abyssal pit that's already taken the life of the man whose corpse is now staring you as you feel yourself dying down there with him? Nightmares.
Like I told someone else.. if witnessing someone else in this situation is the most terrifying thing you've ever witnessed, then you live a hell.of a good life
@@potatoboidvidi What..? Did you see someone's head get cut off while being raped or what?
@@aizen38 the world is a scary, horrifying, and deadly place. Always has been, but nowadays there's more people to be victims and more cameras to show it. I'm lucky enough to have never experienced anything too crazy myself, but from stories my family tells of the USSR, and especially my dad telling about what he saw while at sea, as well as countless videos online, I think I know enough to say you really have to become the best and strongest person you can be to survive it, and even then you should pray for good luck just in case.
Also, even though it's illogical, I understand and believe the superstitions sailors and divers have about the sea. It's all just a body of water, but even the most unsinkable ships and the most skilled of seamen get pulled to their deaths on its whim.
@@benji45645 Yeah I agree with you. The world is indeed a very dark place terrifying place, sometimes i wish i wasn't born in it. But ill just have to get stronger and live life to the fullest, hoping I don't come across any crazy situations like that though.
There's much worse on the internet
Just watching this video made me feel heavy in the chest. Can't imagine the dark and somewhat claustrophobic conditions Dave must have been in
This is one of the most compelling and creepy videos I have ever seen and I keep coming back to watch it again. These last moment videos are awesome
First rule of scuba diving. Never dive alone
You know unless you got the license for that.
I have the best tip for not dying in a scuba spelunking trip.
Dont scuba spelunk
@weißer Ritter Bro, it is awesome, don't let stories like this sway you.
Same thing I was thinking, I'm not a diver but in any hazardous situations wouldn't diving in pairs have been the standard?
@@squillamsquallace2468 sounds like something a drowned corpse wax scuba zombie would say, I'm on to your tricks you son of a bitch Davy Jones won't take me that easily
@@macbrown99 _Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn._
Mac
Nobodt is talking about being in the dark water for 12 hours while being sick...
pure hell
Yeah, I was wondering how the hell you vomit under water let alone do it for 12 hours and not drown.
can't be more obvious, sherlock
@@28russ yeah thats why he spent 2 weeks on a chamber or something
@@28russ you can vomit straight through your regulator in scuba
Edit: nevermind. he says they're using rebreathers. idk about puking in that kind of set-up
The culprit was the camera crew who insisted on installing a camera on him. Let me explain:
The camera during this time weren't the tiny go pros we have now, its was those bulky type ones that weighs a lot. and this made him even more encumbered and his movements underwater was slow. Adding the camera also messed with how he usually attached his essential gears, especially his light. The camera crew replaced his light with the camera and this is the culprit that caused confusion to the diver later on. When underwater, a diver mostly relies on muscle memory as he switches between gears, tools and lights. Also at a certain point, the gasses divers breathe in causes minor side effects to their motor skills. at some point he got confused and was visibly frustrated as he couldn't operate because of the extra encumbrance of the camera, the body bag netting started to get entangled with the rest of his gear and he was having a hard time working without adequate lighting. This was attested to by his close friend, who was a fellow diver who spent time watching the footage and noticed Dave's difficulty working because of the camera attached to him. If the camera wasnt on him, he probably would have successfully done his recovery as he was a very experienced diver. This one single change in how he usually operates caused his death.
Im sorry but had that been my child as much as id appreciate having his remains back i would refuse to allow another person to take such a risk to recover him now a child is going to grow up deprived of having his father in his life
Imagine how scary that is. You go so deep down, it’s so dark, you can barely breathe normally, and then you realize you’ll never see the surface again.
That is just depressing.
Being 270 meters below the surface and realizing that you fucked up and have no chance to return alive must actually be the worst feeling possible
As a fellow pro diver, I really hope Dave was narcosised up, it may even have been peaceful at the end.
@@keithsmith1936 Yeah me too. And I don't think he realised, probably felt happy and relaxed then just went to sleep. I hope. Very sad for his people though.
I used to know David Shaw's son
My dad worked as a pastor in Australia and he actually built a good friendship with David Shaw's son, Steve, who would frequently take me to the Melbourne aquarium when he found the time. Unfortunately, that was many years ago, and back then I had no idea that Steve's father had died in such a horrible accident. Unfortunately I have not seen him for many years and, even to this day, 10 years later, I miss Steve greatly, and wish that I still had a relationship with him.
If anybody who reads this knows Steve, please tell him that I pray that he's doing ok. You were an awesome guy, and me and my family loved you very much. God bless.
God I hope y'all get reunited🌹😥
This must be him, based around Coburg / Brunswick too: www.nelsonalexander.com.au/real-estate-agents/steven-shaw/243/
This is a good comment. Hope you find him to tell him in person.
hope u find him someday
You’ll find him someday hopefully! The internet has its own special powers to make things happen :)
WOW! Well done! Gripped me HARD throughout the entire piece. Horrifically sad to lose such a magnificent spirit but it was done with great honor & nobility of which a soul is NEVER forgotten. Peace be upon us all -
May all the men who have lost their life’s to recover or save someone rest in peace, real hero’s right there
Damn. My uncle is a rescue/recovery diver for our countys EMS and he had to look at footage from a gopro of a womans lungs popping because she forgot to breathe out when resurfacing, I can only imagine how those people felt when watching the footage
Edit: i forgot to mention the reason he could see it is because he was the one who dove down and retrieved the body
That's fucking crazy
What do you mean they "popped"? And why did they "pop"?
@@gabrieleamenta6197 from what I know as she was rising up to the surface because the pressure was getting lower and lower, the air expanded, which caused her air sacs in her lungs to burst
When diving as you ascend you have to breath out so that the pressure can equalize, if you don't you risk the small sacs that make up your lungs, the alveoli, popping. Best case scenario you need to go to the hospital worst case is death. Dive safely and within you limits.
Thanks for the answers, didn't know about this
It’s chilling to see how still Dave went when Dion’s goggles turned towards him, Like he had just realized something very bad was going to happen.
That was the “oh fuck” moment :(
I read this comment and thought to myself, Atleast the goggles were there, what would it be like if they weren’t...?
I think the video speed was just slowed down for the Dion's goggles moment. Dave seems man enough to not throw a scaredy fit over seeing more of a corpse that he already knew about.
@@PoochieCollins And this was the second time he encountered the body anyway.
@@VCthaGOATdunker : yeah, and if I recall he was stuck by dead man's tanks being wedged into the muck, such that David would've seen his face the first time specifically, probably.
This video hits me in a different way, when i was young and got in trouble with the law i was given community service. One of the guys who was in charge of that was extremely cool and it turned out his ex-wife was one of my classes teacher. He loved diving and one day a few years ago went out to do so, all i know from what happened is upon surfacing he reported dizziness and fell backwards in the water. He died from decompression sickness and went out doing something he enjoyed. R.I.P. Chuck
This was an excellent job sharing this. Thank you
I done some quick maths and their at a depth of 271 meters or 890 freedom feet, the titanic was just under 883 feet long, which means if you stood the titanic vertically in the cave, David would be able to stand under it and still have some head room. Puts how deep they were into perspective.
thank you
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@@night1673 I believe in meme lords, so if Jesus was a meme lord then id believe in him :D
@@escaladep Jesus is not a meme lord...
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Could you imagine how haunting it would be to see the light of your partner knowing that they're dead, it's a confusing emotional contrast of hope and despair with the distraught of knowing that the person down there is dead and the natural hope of a light in the darkness.
Imagine you know he’d dead but it starts *Moving*
Rival Racer Gaming Ima have to ask you to stop right there, no further please
Autistic Pigeon imagine it speeding towards you after
Nope, nope, nope... time to create a new world/planet, I won't stand for that!
@@lujos5913 I might just break the valve off of the end of one of my air tanks, and use the thrust to rocket to the surface-- decompression sickness be damned.
...I'd rather do THAT, than to see what was holding Dave's light and coming up towards me...
If there is one thing I've learned from these videos, it's that when you're somewhere where you can barely survive yourself, you don't try and save someone who won't make it or bring their body back
I don’t know anything about Diving but all I can say is what a brave man to risk his life to bring another man up and he kept his promise I send my condolences to both families and to Dave and the other diver rest in peace
I know everyone is saying this is heroic that he returned their son to them, but imagine the horrible guilt the parents must have now, knowing their quest to bring their son home just led to even more death and suffering.
The humane thing was to leave the body. The risk to reward ratio was not acceptable.
David knew the risks associated with what he was about to do. Had he not been prepared to lose his life in the pursuit of this endeavor, I’m sure he never would have undertaken the responsibility. I hope the parents were able to find some closure in the fact that David passed on doing what he loved to do.
Agreed.
@@sultanofsauce9816 I think that's just something we say to make ourselves feel better. Well at least they died doing what they loved. He loved diving. He didn't love being tangled up in ropes, drunk failing at his task on the bottom of the ocean. He loved diving and returning. People say the same thing when somebody dies climbing. People love climbing. They don't love falling or freezing to death. Let's stop sugar coating it.
@@auntedna6376 Yeah that saying is pretty damn stupid now that I think about it
@@auntedna6376 exactly. Though I understand why families may take comfort from thinking a loved one passed on their own terms to some degree.
Man literally knew he was gonna die but still went "well a promise is a promise" and brought back the body. Legend
Thank you for making such a respectful & insightful coverage of this tragedy. I wanted to know the story but other videos were hard to watch, there want any explanation as to what I was seeing, it was just video & no description etc.
This is an informative and quite respectable video. Thank you for not making a tragedy like this into shock value/entertainment (why I stay away from true crime channels)
True horror:
Being alone with only your thoughts for 12 hours
I would want to pass out, I would hate to be in the dark where you dont know where anything is at and have no hope of leaving and you just feel that strong water on your body while being pretty much drunk
Underwater inside a suit not being able to even feel your own skin
Tenebris?
I'm Tired Of My Old Name
AD PRAFUNDIS!
And in pitch black water
The fact that the camera got a pretty good shot of the body looking straight at him
Timestamp please?
@@jackieweaver3884 10:02
@@cheapship6843 thanks. that was horrifying, truly tragic.
@@jackieweaver3884 yes it is. Very unfortunate of what happened.
@@cheapship6843i came here from the cave exploration deaths, its even more tragic because it could be 100% prevented. what i dont understand is why the parents would suddenly want their son to be rescued after 10 years of his death. its pretty obvious there were no chances of his surviving, and that the dive was lethal.
This was great and respectfully done. Your other videos are really funny but this content is equally good. Hope you go far
Love, love your channel 😌
I got chills when it was mentioned both bodies were retrieved. It came over me that Dave infact made good on his promise to Deon's parents that he would retrieve deon's body. Absolutely heart wrenching that he died in the process though.
I'm impressed with the lady in charge. When told Dave had passed, she got up immediately to start the safe resurfacing process for Don.
It's the same thing in mountaineering, when you know someone is dead you immediately concentrate on the living who will die if you do not act.
Depends on how your emotions are wired with reactions. From my perspective I go cold and clinical and not even have a reaction at the time. As in choosing which injured person to help and just decide who has the better chance of living and who I can help. At the time you are auto pilot, no second guessing the decision. AT THE TIME! Later when you have time you think and react like a "human" is not so great! 😕😕
@@BobbieSmith46 Exactly. In this situation there is just no place for emotions. Immediate decisions must be made which directly affect the well-being of others whose life depends on you in that moment. If that lady couldn't do that and act as professionally as she does, she would clearly be in the wrong job.
@@mobbkopf I just wish the emotions and memories would stay away after it is over lol.
Yeah but it had to work like that bec you Can't panic in a situation like that
This is the third video of yours I have watched, I'm hooked
After watching this documentary, I’ve had much more respect to divers. It doesn’t matter if they’re doing this for their egos or hobby. The most important thing is that they did it and at least tried it compared to me watching this in my bed without any risks.
I really really respect and admire all they’re doing to break their limit and try. Rest in peace Dave! My heart goes to Dave’s families and friends.
And thank you so much Don and other divers for what you guys’ve done. If you guys hadn’t been there for him, he wouldn’t have thought or started it from the beginning.❤
I hate literally everything about this.
Metoo
@x xx how is the audio bad
x xx Bruh go away, nobody wants your irrelevant negativity.
@x xx how the fuck is that audio bad? Do you have such bad ears that a slight echo makes something impossible to understand for you or are you just spoiled by the 1000$ microphones used by the common upper class youtubers?
nobody really cares. nobody is forcing you to watch it. i think you just want to bitch and moan about it in the comments.
I can't imagine having to throw up under water & then repeatedly between gasping for air. That part must have been true hell.
Imagine the terror he felt, poor guy probably shit himself in terror while struggling
Wouldn't even wish that on my enemies,that's such a horrible feeling of dread and terror
The stuff happening right there doesn’t really come anywhere close to that of hell, but ok..
@@diobrando5549 stfu nigga
@@diobrando5549 Hell is worse but slowly dying while literally looking into the eyes of death itself is such a terrifying moment
Wow, this story is heartbreaking. I feel bad for the parents and for other divers.
I can't imagine feeling a body like that and then to see the dead young man's face or goggles.
Truly sad
LOVE THESE VIDEOS
R.I.P to this legend that kept his promise at the cost of his life🙏
@Yourubecan Blowme that statement is very hypocritical
@Yourubecan Blowme did you not watch the video? Both bodies were recovered that’s how they got the footage
@Yourubecan Blowme calm down, there's no need for that.
@Yourubecan Blowme wow you are a special kind of asshole aren’t you?
@John Jones Dave Died while trying to retrieve the body Deon Dreyer(the body he discover last time) . Both body is tangled to a rope and thats the reason why dave died is because he want to get of the entanglement and breathing so much air causing too much CO2 in the tank. Since (Deon Dreyer) body has been decomposing a lot thus it has more buoyancy which let it to be float and since Dave body also is entangled so both their body float together. Both bodies were found 8 days after cause their friend had to retrieved back some tank that was still in the cave and they found the rope and notice that it was the same rope Dave had use so they kept pulling till they pull up both the bodies. Its a really sad case and technically Dave did brought back Deon Dreyer eventhough it cost his life
All I can say is GEEZ, imagine how the parents of the first dead guy feel now. Ouch.
Jesus christ, the guilt
They were foolish to have expected to have their son's body retrieved. Another life lost -- for what?
@Morna Erwin well he promised
@@encross8058 They were selfish to expect it of him.
@@morna1953 why are they selfish? The guy called them out of the blue promising a recovery.
Can't be at fault for expecting the word of someone else. Not for this. Fuck yourself.
What an incredible voice this guy has, I have no problem in understanding every word he says, I am 71 and slight hard of hearing. He also makes it so dramatic. Good man Glen, up the Dubs.
I really hope he passed out, if I drowned I’d want to not feel myself drowning
I've heard that drowning feels like getting drunk, so maybe not so bad.. xD
Radim Ziegler yes, you get the same dizziness as when you're drunk, but it's much painful
@@crook7493 how would you know when no one has drowned and came back to life and the very few people that have lose memory due to blood flow so in reality your just chatting shit mate
Since he had a mask and breather on I would have guessed he would have suffocated rather than drowned
@@dee4024 Very few people but some didnt
"Dave's not coming back" Damn, that gave me the chills.
2 kids. heartbreaking.
Amazing! RIP Dave !! A man to put his life on the line for another man body! GOB Bless your soul Dave a hero on many levels!
Nitrogen narcosis doesn’t really feel like being drunk, it’s more like being hit with laughing gas. You’re completely aware of your surroundings and the danger you’re in, yet you just don’t care and you feel extremely happy and care free. That’s what makes it so dangerous. I’ve been narc’d many times and luckily I’ve always had a buddy diver. I am particularly susceptible to it for some reason and if I spend very much bottom time at all around 120-150 feet I get narc’d. Sometimes worse than others. But it’s really a wonderful feeling, just incredibly dangerous.
Good to hear that you're ok
Oh good to hear that your ok
That may explain why Shaw didn't immediately abort when things started going wrong. The carefree feeling may have made him over confident
That’s strangely comforting. It’s better than panic. Glad you have great friends who look out for you. That’s a blessing.
I've heard of divers with Nitrogen Narcosis taking off their regulators while at depth. Scary stuff.
‘Let the dead bury themselves.’
Jesus?
@@petetong9725 yep
Loosely quoted from New Testament parable.
@Sha Dee Either are good sayings because more than enough people do seal their own fate...literally
"But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead." Matthew 8:22
That moment when Dave stared at Dion’s goggles was almost like a warning to get out while he still can.
I forgot all about your channel, glad I found it again. I hate most UA-camrs but you're alright.
Imagine this: your trying to get a dead body back a then it grabs you
Maybe it could happen like the person was just rly weak and couldn't move much and was just waiting for help and when he saw another diver he used all his energy to reach out. I think it would be possible just not for that long
Markus Lemerise
No I mean Iike it’s dead fully dead then it grabs you
Well if it's a fresh corpse that could happen I guess but a older corpse would have nothing to grab with
Bruh!😂🤣😅
I’d say Harrison Okene is an example of this(?) It was *believed* that everyone on the ship he was on was dead, until he reached out to grab the diver.
What blows my mind is that when Dave started getting hit with Martini's law, he was experiencing the effect of *eighteen* dry martinis due to being at a depth of 270 metres.
Yip that is more than a bottle of liquor going straight to the brain. He should have had at minimum comms with the surface. Or a dive buddy to let him know nope this is not working let's leave the body.
The 1st sign that he should have bailed on the idea was when the bottles was loose already. The dive was not going to plan the moment he reached the body. That was not planned for. Every second counts.
But most of us know how you reason when you drunk. I can do this hold my beer and watch this move.
@magnum chocolattee people get off on risks. Obviously it didnt go to plan with the body being dislodged, he should have resurfaced straight up and rethink what to do. Even if its a big waste of time, its not worth your life
@magnum chocolattee It's a thrill for them. People go skydiving, and bungie jumping all the time. Also, apparantly more people have been to the moon than gone as deep as David Shaw. He died exploring the depths of an abyss into which almost no one had ever been.
@magnum chocolattee everyone is wired different, maybe when your older?
@magnum chocolattee .. For many people being bored is a fate worse than death.
Great job narrating.
It's sad that he lost his own life but still even in death he kept his promise of getting the body out that is very honorable of him
Condolences to both families for their loss may God strengthen them
Our cultures have a weird obsession with recovering bodies. It's completely fine and fitting for a diver to have a grave underwater.
well, we are a social species and while that is our main basis to success it also makes us unable to just leave our own dead.
@@dallasn5040 I guess. I just see it as an emotional response of the living, not really a necessity to survival. It could very well be instinct. Hell, I've seen a raccoon get hit by a car, and then several raccoons come from no where to recover the body and mourn it. So it could just be a part of our history surviving in groups. A death in a group could mean the end of the group sometimes.
@@timkimmel9935 yeah, thats what i was saying but simpler.
as social animals leaving a body of one of our own weighs on our conscious, at least for most.
Yeah, you're right.
if i die in a watery at least wait 40 years so i can scare the crap out of the next idiot to go down
"This is not your grave. But you are welcomed in it."
Halo 2
@Thomas Dawicki its grimly fitting
Hey Dave! You are now two little peas in a pod down there! Great job!
cool channel i just subbed good interesting stories well put together
Diving is cool and all especially in bright seas where you can see the wildlife but I'll never understand the thrill of deep ocean or in this case cave diving.
@Matthew Ryan Or wreck diving. I liked being able to see the surface, or at least know there was nothing between me and it.
Me either
@@lesnyk255 wreck diving is very cool, but you know, around the wreck not in it
I'm not saying I disagree with you....I also like to be able to see the surface from below! The idea of being trapped in a cave underwater is terrifying. BUT-I feel the draw of the desire to explore underwater caves for their beauty and mystery. But I definitely prefer the ocean at 30 meters or so!
That's it the thrill of knowing well you may not come back up the thrill of knowing how no one will be able to get your body being in a very dark place and somewhere that no one Is with you being totally in a place so cold and so dark nothing will most likely be down there with you your completely alone and your immersed in the darkness that's why they do it or that's why I think they do it
using a hand held light seems stupid when you need both hands to work.
Exactly all that work with just one hand.
He had a light on his helmet too but he wanted to see where he was tangled up with the one in his hand
He also didn't have any directional equipment to show which way is up, this was poorly planned
@@Mrveescuba your English is very bad, I don't understand you
@@Mrveescuba I saw you edited it, its still bad
I dont want to watch these anymore but I cant stop myself
I am starting ocean diving soon, there is one thing I will never do: Cave dive.