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When this happened less than 10 people have dived to below 250 meters, fewer people than have walked on the moon. David Shaw was one of these few people.
Insane how deadly the ocean is to humans, and more-so how we haven't got good methods/equipment to safely dive not even 1/4 a km (as a human - subs not included)
I feel so bad for his parents. their son dies and when the parents are told people are going to get the body, someone else dies in trying to help them and one is injured.
@@slappy8941 bruh it takes time all of it adds up imagine if i were to text with good punctuation probbaly be a week of amount of time ive saved just because i dont worry about punctuation but it stilll gets the message across
@@jyrone3943 Especially when you consider the poor person trying to read it. It wastes their time, from them having to drop in where the punctuation should be.
I'm a diver and mountain climber. The one thing I've always told my diving/climbing partners is that, if something happens to me, I do NOT want anyone to risk their lives just to bring my body back.
@@xissburg Closure for family, some people can't really believe their loved one is dead until they see the casket. It ends the story of the person who lived by telling the living one's that he is gone. It's just to help people accept the death.
I can’t believe Don was vomiting and trying to breathe for hours while changing tanks without the broken equipment and managed to keep himself alive for hours. He has such a strong will you live. He could have thought about how bad thing are and given up. This is a tragic story but his survival is it’s own story in itself
@@otraves4236 It was later that same day. Dion's body had been down there for 10 years, Dave and his team went to recover it, and then Dave died during the recovery effort.
10:01 I feel Dave at this moment must have realized the true gravity of the situation he had put himself in. To literally look a dead man in the face who died exactly where you stand, hundreds of feet beneath the surface in the blackness of the water and realize that you are walking a thin line between life and death, as your head spins and you begin to lose control. Chilling as hell to put yourself in the shoes of.
For those asking….if you’ve never seen what happens to a dead body underwater let me explain. They still decompose… they leak,bloat and explode…some go through late-stage postmortem decomp also called adipocere, etc. All those things contaminate the water and that’s why it’s really important to get them out as soon as possible. Also, another reason is that sometimes people pass away in popular dive locations, and unless the body is recovered they can’t allow people to continue to go in there. Alot of times these tragedies happen inside of state parks etc…and the parks usually just want the body out so that they can continue having people come in and use that dive spot. My entire family, including myself are all CCR (closed circuit rebreather) certified cave divers, and both of my parents spent four years doing body recovery. So there are environmental reasons and other contributing factors why we want to get bodies out. We can usually test the water to see if something is decomposing in there…. if the water shows no decomposition but we haven’t located a body, we usually can tell that either there’s no body in there or it’s not in the water. If something is decomposing in the water and we cannot either locate or retrieve the body, we usually seal off the cave. Yes, people want the bodies of their loved ones but there are so many reasons we recover bodies…
@@controversy3032 land mammals decompose in water all the time too, lol. Polar bears, grizzly bears, deer, moose, all die in and around water- rivers, lakes, ponds, streams..
When they came back to recover his body they had a line hooked to him. They pulled him up and noticed he had an extra line hooked to him. When they pulled it up they realised it was tied to the original body they had come for. So dave had kept his promise and brought their son home.
I personally feel if that was my son. I would've called that cave his grave. I seriously wouldn't want any other person to jeopardize their life to recover his body.
That's easy to say post mortem. If an experienced diver came and offered to dive it's not in their hands to say yes or no. Racing motorbikes is dangerous but you don't get out and tell Rossi not to ride. Dave Shaw was an Aussie hero and is an Aussie legend. Nobody can take that away from him
My diving instructor died looking for cracks in dams. That was his main job. Unfortunately there was a big crack than they anticipated and he was glued to the dam wall due to the pressure sucking and holding him there. He ran out of air before they could get a team to extract him. I quit taking diving lessons.
Thats horrifying, cant imagine the feeling of being sucked by a crack underwater, must of been extremeley difficult to extract him from it. Thanks for sharing
I was in the hospital for 2 months with a broken spinal chord. Your videos helped me get through some really boring times, and helped me fall asleep at night as I would play your videos while I drifted off to sleep in my beeping hospital room, and uncomfortable hospital bed I’d spend 19-20 hours a day in
Additionally, what's insane is... They were doing a small gathering after finding that they weren't coming back.. speaking of them fondly, only for both of the bodies to suddenly surface. Scary.. sad.. and amazing all at once.
@@cate01a Not the way your thinking. Would have only served to tangle him/them up. Given that it WAS line(s) he got tangled in that heavily contributed to his death.
he wasn't aware of his full mental state for months, i think he was just surviving in a semicoma for the 12 hours alone, and probably the months after. they had to put him in a special oxygen/co2 ratio for a week after he was rescued and healed. i really do think he was unable to think, just his senses.
Ya, thinking stuff like "If you can't change your future by changing the past, then how did captain America become an old man by staying back in time?"
Truth…that was like digging up someone at the cemetery but way more dangerous. What happened to him was unfortunate, but that had become is resting place and they just had to go down there fucking with him.
@@brazymoneybaggmelo2398 David Shaw was anything but egotistical, he was an amazing human and one of the greatest technical divers in history. To talk of him as a glory seeking individual is very disrespectful.
@@melikesleepy well yea I'm pretty sure he was a good person wen he was in his right State of mind,"all of us"..but he made a stupid decision,ain't my fault,just call it like it is,that was very stupid of him to go do a mission like that,tf🤔
Dave Shaw actually dreamed of finding a body diving. Dave said when he found Deon, that Deon was in the same exact position as in Dave's dream. Thats why he was connected to the body.
@@slappy8941 Look above and realize most people anymore just think people such as yourself are the idiot here. We don't care which "your" or "Their" we use... we are not writing a Thesis, we are writing UA-cam comments for fuck sake stupid.
Yes indeed why would some one let any1 risk their lives like this Even tho they are Pros at diving this is just way to far like why would someone do this
The thing that really bothers me about this story is that, eventually they got Shaw and Dreyers bodies out as they had floated to the area that rescue divers could reach them. The Dreyer family took their son, had him cremated and then they dumped his ashes right back into the hole he dies in. What a freakin waste!!
So another man died, with another suffering extreme injuries and trauma, just so they could put their son back in the hole they'd just fished him out of? What a damn waste of life!
This is exactly why the dead are left on Everest. Adding a belated comment: It’s like anything in life, you throw enough cash at a problem it will be solved. Fame too maybe. The hunt for the remains of Mallory and Irvine is a good example even though they weren’t in the death zone.
This is the thing that makes me the most depressed. Someone killing themselves to honor someone who has died. It really isn't worth it, in my opinion. I don't think the living should kill themselves to put a body in the ground.
I remember when this happened. As a former commercial diver, I've never fully understood why people do this kind of diving. 250m+ is crazy deep on scuba.
He was literally one of only ten people who had done so at the time. Still, when you think about the cause, can you blame him? No one was more qualified, and he was willing to do the job. One or two circumstances change (like the tanks getting unstuck) and he likely makes it out alive.
@@FunkyEspelhoCat They are possible. But, no comms, no tether to the surface, a finite supply of breathing gas, no standby diver or partner to help you. Even in a well organised commercial situation with all of the above, it is an extremely risky undertaking. 12 hours in water decompression? It's not suicide. But, the risks are very, very high.
the uncontrollable vomiting in between breaths and barely even being able to breathe, all while in scuba-diving gear, is the most horrifying part to me.
@@bobmiller7502 I think that about motorbikes. U can be as safe as u want but there's always gonna be potential idiots driving around u. I love superbikes but i can't get one for that reason
You can blow chunks through a regulator. It’s dangerous and nasty but as long as you keep your mouth gripped on it, you can still breathe between each stomach convulsion.
I'm sorry but this is the absolute most terrifying thing I have ever witnessed. Pure terror. Can you imagine how isolated it felt to be in a pitch black, freezing abyssal pit that's already taken the life of the man whose corpse is now staring you as you feel yourself dying down there with him? Nightmares.
Like I told someone else.. if witnessing someone else in this situation is the most terrifying thing you've ever witnessed, then you live a hell.of a good life
@@aizen38 the world is a scary, horrifying, and deadly place. Always has been, but nowadays there's more people to be victims and more cameras to show it. I'm lucky enough to have never experienced anything too crazy myself, but from stories my family tells of the USSR, and especially my dad telling about what he saw while at sea, as well as countless videos online, I think I know enough to say you really have to become the best and strongest person you can be to survive it, and even then you should pray for good luck just in case. Also, even though it's illogical, I understand and believe the superstitions sailors and divers have about the sea. It's all just a body of water, but even the most unsinkable ships and the most skilled of seamen get pulled to their deaths on its whim.
@@benji45645 Yeah I agree with you. The world is indeed a very dark place terrifying place, sometimes i wish i wasn't born in it. But ill just have to get stronger and live life to the fullest, hoping I don't come across any crazy situations like that though.
@@28russ you can vomit straight through your regulator in scuba Edit: nevermind. he says they're using rebreathers. idk about puking in that kind of set-up
This channel and this story was the first UA-cam channel I watched when my 50-year-old self finally decided to see what all the UA-cam fuss was about a few years ago. This story BREAKS MY HEART. Dion's parents never should have asked that of Dave and I'm sure they feel horrible about it. If it were one of my 4 adult kids I would at least be comforted that they died doing what they love most in the world. It's no different than scattering his ashes into the sea in my opinion. You are an incredible narrator and give the victims the respect they deserve. Thank you!
I don’t even think they did ask it of him. I got the impression from the video that he decided to do it for them, rather than them deciding to request it of him
@@MyratheDunmer You're broadly correct. The effort was mostly Shaw's own initiative to help combined with him wanting to make a documentary on deep dives and body recoveries, which if completed may have paved the way for recoveries in the future. The parents did not openly request Dave to retrieve their son, he just had an idea to do a good deed and shoot a valuable documentary at the same time.
I used to know David Shaw's son My dad worked as a pastor in Australia and he actually built a good friendship with David Shaw's son, Steve, who would frequently take me to the Melbourne aquarium when he found the time. Unfortunately, that was many years ago, and back then I had no idea that Steve's father had died in such a horrible accident. Unfortunately I have not seen him for many years and, even to this day, 10 years later, I miss Steve greatly, and wish that I still had a relationship with him. If anybody who reads this knows Steve, please tell him that I pray that he's doing ok. You were an awesome guy, and me and my family loved you very much. God bless.
@@squillamsquallace2468 sounds like something a drowned corpse wax scuba zombie would say, I'm on to your tricks you son of a bitch Davy Jones won't take me that easily
I know everyone is saying this is heroic that he returned their son to them, but imagine the horrible guilt the parents must have now, knowing their quest to bring their son home just led to even more death and suffering. The humane thing was to leave the body. The risk to reward ratio was not acceptable.
David knew the risks associated with what he was about to do. Had he not been prepared to lose his life in the pursuit of this endeavor, I’m sure he never would have undertaken the responsibility. I hope the parents were able to find some closure in the fact that David passed on doing what he loved to do.
@@sultanofsauce9816 I think that's just something we say to make ourselves feel better. Well at least they died doing what they loved. He loved diving. He didn't love being tangled up in ropes, drunk failing at his task on the bottom of the ocean. He loved diving and returning. People say the same thing when somebody dies climbing. People love climbing. They don't love falling or freezing to death. Let's stop sugar coating it.
Damn. My uncle is a rescue/recovery diver for our countys EMS and he had to look at footage from a gopro of a womans lungs popping because she forgot to breathe out when resurfacing, I can only imagine how those people felt when watching the footage Edit: i forgot to mention the reason he could see it is because he was the one who dove down and retrieved the body
@@gabrieleamenta6197 from what I know as she was rising up to the surface because the pressure was getting lower and lower, the air expanded, which caused her air sacs in her lungs to burst
When diving as you ascend you have to breath out so that the pressure can equalize, if you don't you risk the small sacs that make up your lungs, the alveoli, popping. Best case scenario you need to go to the hospital worst case is death. Dive safely and within you limits.
I think the video speed was just slowed down for the Dion's goggles moment. Dave seems man enough to not throw a scaredy fit over seeing more of a corpse that he already knew about.
@@VCthaGOATdunker : yeah, and if I recall he was stuck by dead man's tanks being wedged into the muck, such that David would've seen his face the first time specifically, probably.
Funny, I feel the exact opposite. In the dark to try and seem spooky, while using other people's footage and not crediting the sources. Kinda sleazy and cheesy.
Imagine how scary that is. You go so deep down, it’s so dark, you can barely breathe normally, and then you realize you’ll never see the surface again.
@@keithsmith1936 Yeah me too. And I don't think he realised, probably felt happy and relaxed then just went to sleep. I hope. Very sad for his people though.
This channel is a perfect example of how you don't need to have the best equipment to have a great channel. I think a lot of people put off starting a channel (me included) because their mic sounds bad etc. But if the content is good it doesn't matter. Edit: I now have created a new video, (Definitely not a shameless plug of my channel) (I'm sorry)
@Enda Dorgan I think at some point I will finally decide to make videos that aren't bad, currently all my videos are just bad memes but I have an idea for a channel that I just never get round to starting. And quite a few channels like this one have made me stop waiting for better equipment and to just start. (Hopefully by next week or something I'll make a video, and now I've left this comment I've forced myself to make a video.) Hopefully.
i wanted to make a YT channel back in 2012 but thats when youtube started rolling in those shady and floaty laws of theirs and i really cant be bothered with getting the demonitezations off possibly every god damn video i upload
You can make a good quality mic from pencil graphite, Google how to do it. It might take you a few trys to make it sound good though as you need to get the shaved bit as flat as possible.
I done some quick maths and their at a depth of 271 meters or 890 freedom feet, the titanic was just under 883 feet long, which means if you stood the titanic vertically in the cave, David would be able to stand under it and still have some head room. Puts how deep they were into perspective.
I remember reading about this a long time ago. Dave had actually tied the rope to Deandres body on his first dive so he could find him. And on his second dive he had a rope tied to himself and attached to the guide rope so he could find his way back to it from the body just in case something happened. So when they pulled up the guide rope that had all the tanks on it eventually it also pulled Dave up and then also Deandre. I alway wondered why divers don’t use a rope attached to them to find their way back or if need be to pull them out if they get lost or die. Dave’s buddy who went to find him and his gear broke should have just been able to grab a rope and tug on it to get Dave to come back or started pulling it if he thought Dave was in trouble.
As far as my limited understanding: it seems like our body cannot ascend quickly withouy dying. Even Don who was critical at a shallower depth needed 12 hours to ascend, and with great effort from the team. Once Don saw that the light wasn't moving it was over.
The line might help, but with such poor visibility and the effects of diving gas and pressure, figuring out which thing coming off your body is the line at all seems to be difficult, and even if you do find the line, it's not exactly taut, and lengths of it might have drifted deeper, leading you down or in circles instead of up.
@@aquageist that's true I always imagine a tight rope you can pull on to ascend, but it would be flopping everywhere in the water so you atill have to ascend somehow and not straight up maybe sideways or down for a while.. scary thanks for your input very interesting
Depends on how your emotions are wired with reactions. From my perspective I go cold and clinical and not even have a reaction at the time. As in choosing which injured person to help and just decide who has the better chance of living and who I can help. At the time you are auto pilot, no second guessing the decision. AT THE TIME! Later when you have time you think and react like a "human" is not so great! 😕😕
@@BobbieSmith46 Exactly. In this situation there is just no place for emotions. Immediate decisions must be made which directly affect the well-being of others whose life depends on you in that moment. If that lady couldn't do that and act as professionally as she does, she would clearly be in the wrong job.
Could you imagine how haunting it would be to see the light of your partner knowing that they're dead, it's a confusing emotional contrast of hope and despair with the distraught of knowing that the person down there is dead and the natural hope of a light in the darkness.
@@lujos5913 I might just break the valve off of the end of one of my air tanks, and use the thrust to rocket to the surface-- decompression sickness be damned. ...I'd rather do THAT, than to see what was holding Dave's light and coming up towards me...
I got chills when it was mentioned both bodies were retrieved. It came over me that Dave infact made good on his promise to Deon's parents that he would retrieve deon's body. Absolutely heart wrenching that he died in the process though.
@John Jones Dave Died while trying to retrieve the body Deon Dreyer(the body he discover last time) . Both body is tangled to a rope and thats the reason why dave died is because he want to get of the entanglement and breathing so much air causing too much CO2 in the tank. Since (Deon Dreyer) body has been decomposing a lot thus it has more buoyancy which let it to be float and since Dave body also is entangled so both their body float together. Both bodies were found 8 days after cause their friend had to retrieved back some tank that was still in the cave and they found the rope and notice that it was the same rope Dave had use so they kept pulling till they pull up both the bodies. Its a really sad case and technically Dave did brought back Deon Dreyer eventhough it cost his life
Nitrogen narcosis doesn’t really feel like being drunk, it’s more like being hit with laughing gas. You’re completely aware of your surroundings and the danger you’re in, yet you just don’t care and you feel extremely happy and care free. That’s what makes it so dangerous. I’ve been narc’d many times and luckily I’ve always had a buddy diver. I am particularly susceptible to it for some reason and if I spend very much bottom time at all around 120-150 feet I get narc’d. Sometimes worse than others. But it’s really a wonderful feeling, just incredibly dangerous.
You love a series that is only alive by getting footages of people getting killed. Haha nothing wrong with that, keep watching because it's one of the best.
@@cheapship6843i came here from the cave exploration deaths, its even more tragic because it could be 100% prevented. what i dont understand is why the parents would suddenly want their son to be rescued after 10 years of his death. its pretty obvious there were no chances of his surviving, and that the dive was lethal.
Diving is cool and all especially in bright seas where you can see the wildlife but I'll never understand the thrill of deep ocean or in this case cave diving.
I'm not saying I disagree with you....I also like to be able to see the surface from below! The idea of being trapped in a cave underwater is terrifying. BUT-I feel the draw of the desire to explore underwater caves for their beauty and mystery. But I definitely prefer the ocean at 30 meters or so!
That's it the thrill of knowing well you may not come back up the thrill of knowing how no one will be able to get your body being in a very dark place and somewhere that no one Is with you being totally in a place so cold and so dark nothing will most likely be down there with you your completely alone and your immersed in the darkness that's why they do it or that's why I think they do it
It's amazing Don survived. Almost everyone would die in that situation, including Don, which probably means everyone. If he had missed the line as he reached out for it, he would be dead.
@x xx how the fuck is that audio bad? Do you have such bad ears that a slight echo makes something impossible to understand for you or are you just spoiled by the 1000$ microphones used by the common upper class youtubers?
Although recovering this young man's body was a noble idea and mission, it was a stupid one. Recovering bodies from dangerous, deep, underwater caverns should be much like recovering bodies from death zones on high peaks. There's a reason that recoveries are seldom ever attempted on mountains, at certain altitudes and under certain unfavorable conditions... more often than not, they result in further loss of life. Cave diving is on the same or higher level of danger as scaling mountains. That young man died taking a risk and his family at least knew his fate and knew where his body rested. Whether at the bottom of a cave or 6 feet under a cemetery, it's still a grave. No one should have attempted to recover that body and I guess ultimately they did, but at a high cost.
@@lisafoos8976 of course it's different, none of us as parents can decide what passions our children might pursue and we can't necessarily agree with those activities, but I do think it is selfish to ask or allow others to put their life in danger just to recover the body of someone who willingly put themselves at risk. There might be a few exceptions to this, such as soldiers lost at war, but the difference is that one dies in selfless service, the other in selfish pursuits. Nonetheless, not having a body to mourn must be hard for the majority of family members who lose someone in inaccessible places.
@@lisafoos8976 no I wasnt saying that an adventurer is themselves selfish as a whole, but the pursuit of potentially deadly activities for self pleasure or self discovery are in essence selfish because they are for the "self" and can and often do in fact, hurt our loved ones in one or many ways... emotionally, psychologically, financially, and often permanently. Naturally we are ALL selfish on some level. But I agree with you on your last point, I was once someone who pursued many dangerous, life threatening activities and I loved the feeling of danger, of overcoming the risk and adversity and the self confidence and self discovery that came with it. I no longer do this because people depend on me, but had I died back then when I was taking all those risks, my demise due to those choices would have deeply hurt many people and obviously I wouldn't have the life I have today. I'm glad God always watched over me and he apparently had different plans for me than an untimely demise, not that my number can't be called without notice at any minute right? Not the case for everyone.
@@lisafoos8976 Indeed, plus I'm pretty sure I'm too old now for most any of those extreme shenanigans lol. I just hope God has an honorable death in store for me and not something like Cancer... I'd rather die by a coconut falling on my head like that French lady in the Bahamas, but I'm a bit hardheaded so I don't know, it may take a piano.
Completely agree. The grave even had a plaque dedicated to Deon, so it was fully a grave. If you have a lived one that participates in activities like this, you need to accept what comes with it.
Dave's decision to retrive dreyers remain was outrageous, being a family man with wife n childrens his decision of retrival was uncalled for. Unfortunately he chose to gameble his family's future over a decade old skeletal remain. RIP.
I feel like his ego took over his common sense. Believing that esince he found him once, he’d have no problem retrieving him. I was initially mad at the parents for risking someone else’s life, for bones. But I’m sure Dave probably told the parents it would be “no problem” I do know that when they both were recovered the parents of the younger guy sat with his corpse for hours. Very, very odd. Especially since he’d been reduced to corpse wax 😬
@@morna1953 why are they selfish? The guy called them out of the blue promising a recovery. Can't be at fault for expecting the word of someone else. Not for this. Fuck yourself.
I can't imagine how terrifying it must be to die in these circumstances. Dave Shaw was such a brave & kind man to try helping out the Dreyer family; so is Don. I hope the parents don't blame themselves... Any diver this experienced would have known this was a dangerous dive, & would have understood what might happen. I hope Dave's surviving family are okay, too. It's okay to still grieve & miss someone who made a sacrifice for others, even if you're proud of them, it's still painful.
Once he realized the body was free he should have just started pulling it to the other divers. But when this occured, more people had walked on the moon than dived below 250m, and his original dive when he found the body is the record dive for this area.
At that time, 10 yrs had passed since their son’s death. I think they have made their closure with his unfortunate passing , but this incident might have brought up further trauma and grief, not only because it reminded them of how they felt when they lost their son, but also because of another man’s death related to it. I wouldn’t say it was worth it. Dave knew the risks.
@@isobel64 yeah this wasn’t necessary. It’s not like the body is intact or anything, it’s “a soup.” It’s already buried deep in the water why bring him up just to bury him under the ground. Now a wife and two kids lost someone that didn’t need to be lost.
@@jameson1239 ya one guy just to keep an eye on him but its so dangerous you're now risking 2 down there? At the end of the day some people want to push boundaries and set new limits doing what they love. Too bad he didn't just tie a line around the bodies legs and not mess around with a bag. Seems like they over complicated the plan unnecessarily at the most dangerous point.
@@grimmblade the body has been there for 10 years, i think it'll split in half before even reaching the surface... but you've got a point tho, it's too risky..
I'm an underwater cave diver for just about 4yrs in the Philippines, but I have also traveled and explored underwater caves in Indonesia and Thailand, it is really fun doing activities like this, but there is also danger, I remember my 12th cave diving in Philippines "paglugaban cave" in palawan one of our teammates got his foot stuck between rocks, luckily it is not a very deep cave, we are just about to enter the cave when his foot got stuck, luckily it just took 4mins that we managed to pull his foot out, I got panicked because it is my first time seeing tragic like that, I mean first it's underwater, and secondly the fear that we will not able to pull him. And I'm happy that last 2 months my last dive nothing tragic happened and my teammates are ok, I wish all my co-divers out there, that they're no tragic or accidents will happen to you, keep safe in diving
This was indeed a chilling, frightening story, and I don't think I'm the only one who appreciates your respectful and professional conduct, as well as the good production quality. Well done.
Mmm yeah he was good but not the best. I thought the cold dramatic lighting was a bit uncalled for- this a very sad story of lives lost and should not be so theatrically lit. Also, the sound quality of his mic is terrible. I nearly closed the video at the start because of that.
@@SirArthurTheGreat Are you joking? It matters because it sets the tone of horrific death of human beings into spooky disaster stories. ... Mate has death ever visited your door? your family? the person you loved? Judging from your comment I'm guessing it hasn't.
I would want to pass out, I would hate to be in the dark where you dont know where anything is at and have no hope of leaving and you just feel that strong water on your body while being pretty much drunk
He did. I think one of the teammates or Dave himself said, "You are for you, and I am for me". Meaning if something happens to anyone, they're dead, so don't try to be a hero and save them.
@@MicahActuallyScott u said he wouldn't know the outcome..cave diving that deep bro how u wouldn't know the outcome,like I say if u dive in a gator infested river you would know the damn outcome of u not getting out in one piece at least,dude read
"5 minutes recovering the body" doesn't seem nearly enough. Especially considering that Dave believed Deon's body to be stuck in mud (as it was when Dave found him the first time, but had since become unstuck). But I understand that you can't stay long at such depth. Dave's original plan was to detach Deon's tanks (which where keeping the body stuck in the mud), then put him in the bag, all the while making sure that Deon's head or feet or hands didn't detach from the body (as the only parts of the body outside of the diving suit). Except when he reached Deon's body this second time, Dave realized that Deon had become unstuck. So when Dave reached for him, he had a whole decomposed body to try and control underwater, rather than a still body to simply work a body bag over. The first thing Dave did was put Deon's feet and legs in the bag, and only then he tried to detach the tanks, but soon enough he noticed a problem: the rope Dave had used to connect Deon to the main guide line had become entangled with the body. As you can see in the footage, pretty early on Dave had to disentangle his own light from the line. After failing to free Deon, Dave gave up and started making his way up, most likely thinking of trying again another time, with a plan to tackle a free floating body with tanks and rope all over. But as he was leaving Deon's body, Dave realized that he'd become entangled in the line as well. He spent his last moments trying to cut the line and be free.
@@crook7493 how would you know when no one has drowned and came back to life and the very few people that have lose memory due to blood flow so in reality your just chatting shit mate
Rising the dead is the name of the book that documents the life and death of Dave Shaw, written by his best friend and Co diver Don Shirley. One of the most chilling books I've read,highly recommended. Great channel, super content and well narrated.
What blows my mind is that when Dave started getting hit with Martini's law, he was experiencing the effect of *eighteen* dry martinis due to being at a depth of 270 metres.
Yip that is more than a bottle of liquor going straight to the brain. He should have had at minimum comms with the surface. Or a dive buddy to let him know nope this is not working let's leave the body. The 1st sign that he should have bailed on the idea was when the bottles was loose already. The dive was not going to plan the moment he reached the body. That was not planned for. Every second counts. But most of us know how you reason when you drunk. I can do this hold my beer and watch this move.
@magnum chocolattee people get off on risks. Obviously it didnt go to plan with the body being dislodged, he should have resurfaced straight up and rethink what to do. Even if its a big waste of time, its not worth your life
@magnum chocolattee It's a thrill for them. People go skydiving, and bungie jumping all the time. Also, apparantly more people have been to the moon than gone as deep as David Shaw. He died exploring the depths of an abyss into which almost no one had ever been.
My diving instructor (commercial) would say; There are old diver, and there are bold divers. There are no old bold divers. He was an old US Navey diver and knew his stuff. Bob Neff was his name.
My dive master (and cousin) was friends with a diver named diver Dan who was the very definition of an old bold diver he was in his late 50s early 60s when my cousin first met him and he would fall asleep on decomp stops and do stuff that would be considered insane by less experienced divers. I pretty sure he is still alive.
@@pizzasteve5825 And still diving? I often heard stories of guys at work sleeping at the decmp station. Science studies started happening and they were surprized at guys sleeping in the Arctic waters. I didn't do it though.
Such a well and respectful way to tell the story. Being a diver myself I cried the whole way through it especially the fumbling around. I experienced the drunk feeling at only 100ft and realized I was laughing and giggling as I was swimming with my fellow divers. I quickly went up 5ft and thank God it stopped because it had just started. Plus it was nothing like this whatsoever. Personally this is why I’m adamant no matter who what where and why you always always always have a dive buddy with you. While the same probably would’ve happened to both we will never know. This man is my hero. Heart of pure gold. Rest in peace. 💔💔💔☀️☀️☀️
Maybe it could happen like the person was just rly weak and couldn't move much and was just waiting for help and when he saw another diver he used all his energy to reach out. I think it would be possible just not for that long
I’d say Harrison Okene is an example of this(?) It was *believed* that everyone on the ship he was on was dead, until he reached out to grab the diver.
I almost find it impossible to comprehend the horror that David experienced. Imagine being disoriented and confused, and then look down, staring death itself in the eyes. I can only imagine the fear and panic that he experienced, realizing he was about to endure the same fate.
I feel so bad for Dion's parents. David was a record holding diver, and they weren't divers themselves, so I doubt they realized how dangerous this was for him. He'd been to the bottom of Bushman's hole before, but going down just to set a record and then come straight back up is a lot different than trying to retrieve a body, especially one that's highly decomposed.
Its funny that the footage of a man's last momments is still capable of shocking us so much. We have been so conditioned by movies and videogames, but still seeing through a mans eyes knowing that every time that bar moves this human being is getting closer to the end is still hauntin beyond words
Im sorry but had that been my child as much as id appreciate having his remains back i would refuse to allow another person to take such a risk to recover him now a child is going to grow up deprived of having his father in his life
Apparently, the moment he sees Deon googles it was because his neck that was just mostly bones, came off as it was only held loosely by his diving kit.
@@KenMabie yo wtf. We are talking about floating, underwater, and untouched corpses, and that shits hilarious? Either you have some wacky tacky sense of humor or this is a dark joke im too beta to understand
You’re thinking about percentages, he’s thinking about total amounts. In his terms we know significantly more about space as we have taken millions of observations with telescopes and satellite flights.
WOW! Well done! Gripped me HARD throughout the entire piece. Horrifically sad to lose such a magnificent spirit but it was done with great honor & nobility of which a soul is NEVER forgotten. Peace be upon us all -
@@dallasn5040 I guess. I just see it as an emotional response of the living, not really a necessity to survival. It could very well be instinct. Hell, I've seen a raccoon get hit by a car, and then several raccoons come from no where to recover the body and mourn it. So it could just be a part of our history surviving in groups. A death in a group could mean the end of the group sometimes.
@@timkimmel9935 yeah, thats what i was saying but simpler. as social animals leaving a body of one of our own weighs on our conscious, at least for most.
Yeah, you can even see on the tablets that were resurfacing how the hand writing is badly scribbled. That there is one of the earliest signs of nitrogen narcosis taking effect, and those came from the divers a shallower (or relitively shallower) depths. So what he was feeling must have been nightmareish. My deepest dive was to like 40m and I thought I was loosing my fucking mind. I shudder to imagine what 250+ in a cave would be like. I wouldn't wish that mans death on my worst enemy. Diving is a great profession/recreation but it can come with a serious cost sometimes. Edit: 40m not 50m :)
Were you unaware or did you dive below 30m specifically to experience nitrogen narcosis or just to go as deep as you could without oxygen toxicity becoming a problem at 60m? Yeah tho it's a distressing way to go out.
Yeah, we did it as a demostration when I was getting certifided. Basically we went down to depth (not for long mind you) and we were asked to write our full names and date of birth down when we were at that depth. The we would ascend to a shallower depth and continue our dive training. When we got back to the surface I didn't even recoginze my own handwriting, it looked like I had written it without looking or something. As for what it felt like, that is hard to describe, the only other thing I can compare it to is luaghing gas. It's not like being drunk or anything like that. In fact I felt pretty ok, but when I got back to the surface it was wierd looking at my own sloppy handwriting, because at depth I looked at the same writing and though "yeah that looks good". Also, side note I see in my original comment I wrote 50m I meant 40m (I'm dumb) I'll edit it.
They should have used a non-air mix like heliox (if they had sufficient supply) or if it even existed back then to avoid narcosis. I can't even begin to comprehend how difficult that must have been. The scary thought is while your there you aren't even aware of how disoriented you are.
@@thecloudpeoplearecoming399 I've been to 45m and have not experienced anything like you described. Breathing took a little more effort because of the pressure but other than that, everything was perfectly normal and neither me, nor anyone else with me experienced any "laughing gas"-effects.
The fact that this is real just makes it more disturbing and creepy. It's like the cave is alive and wouldn't let go until someone pays the price for trespassing.
The image of Deons goggles is even more chilling when you find out that it was his skeletal head floating in the water as it had become detached from his body. When they pulled his body out of the water his foot fell off as well. Upon removing the swimsuit Deon still had his jockey underwear on and his parents seeing the body said his legs still looked athletic and maintained shape. That's so hard for a parent to see. I can't even imagine what it must be like witnessing that.
@Mr305Maxxx there is a book about it "Raising the Dead: A True Story of Death and Survival" www.amazon.de/Raising-Dead-Story-Death-Survival/dp/0007275536/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
@@alisonanddanlindsey because the skull is NOT jointed to the body. It merely sets atop a sort-of 'plate' at the top of the spine. when the ligaments turn to jelly, nothing holds it in place. Which is why hanging is such an effective way to kill someone.
The man fulfilled his promise at the cost of his life. But was it worth it? Sure, recovering dead body might be important to family. But we have to think rationally, both the rescuer and the family who requested for help. There's always a chance where things could go wrong and we should not forget it. Continue living with beloved family, be a good husband and father or die retrieving dead body out of kindness and self satisfaction? It's basic human skill, to judge what's the best option for us.
Agreed, Dave had children, he did the because he was over confident and possibly wanted the recognition. The dead diver could have been left there, after all he was in his happy place.
Like he's literally buried in water, why would you want the bones and bury them again for no reason, people can be too sentimental about things that don't matter. You're dead and that's it, fuck you trying to get back his bones for
Dave, you will always be remember and respected for your sacrafice, I wish you were here so we all could thank you for your efforts. No man left behind, and I honer that. Rest in peace to both divers.
Ken Mabie you’re a dickhead with no life. Quit playing video games at your age and try to do something. You’re a cat lady in male form. You’re such a piece of shit, Dave was a good man to want to give another family closure. I’m not saying you deserve anything but God works in mysterious ways.
I don’t know anything about Diving but all I can say is what a brave man to risk his life to bring another man up and he kept his promise I send my condolences to both families and to Dave and the other diver rest in peace
For me the feeling of being trapped down in the deep is much more terrifying. It has that claustrophobic feel. Plus I'm scared of drowning. Not that asphyxiating would be much better...
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When this happened less than 10 people have dived to below 250 meters, fewer people than have walked on the moon. David Shaw was one of these few people.
We use this video in our training class. Not this exact video but the video of the dive. This guy misses a lot key points that lead to his death.
Insane how deadly the ocean is to humans, and more-so how we haven't got good methods/equipment to safely dive not even 1/4 a km (as a human - subs not included)
Dave walked on the moon?
@@csb772 just out of curiosity could you point some stuff out? I'm pretty interested to see
Didn't count he was dead when he sank that low
I feel so bad for his parents. their son dies and when the parents are told people are going to get the body, someone else dies in trying to help them and one is injured.
Dude, punctuation is free. Don't be an idiot.
@@slappy8941 bruh it takes time all of it adds up imagine if i were to text with good punctuation probbaly be a week of amount of time ive saved just because i dont worry about punctuation but it stilll gets the message across
@@jyrone3943 Especially when you consider the poor person trying to read it. It wastes their time, from them having to drop in where the punctuation should be.
@@Pantheragem what like two seconds?
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I'm a diver and mountain climber. The one thing I've always told my diving/climbing partners is that, if something happens to me, I do NOT want anyone to risk their lives just to bring my body back.
Hell no. Let me lie. Least I died diving. Doing something I love. Celebrate my death.
Yeah, unless you can safely get the body dont do it.
@@PurpleCrownVic agreed
What is the point of recovering a body really? What will be done to it? What value does it bring?
@@xissburg Closure for family, some people can't really believe their loved one is dead until they see the casket. It ends the story of the person who lived by telling the living one's that he is gone. It's just to help people accept the death.
I can’t believe Don was vomiting and trying to breathe for hours while changing tanks without the broken equipment and managed to keep himself alive for hours. He has such a strong will you live. He could have thought about how bad thing are and given up. This is a tragic story but his survival is it’s own story in itself
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@@watcher805 bruh
@@renameagain5808 what is it Butcher
Very true
@@watcher805 you’re cringe af
"He saw Dave's light off in the distance... But it wasn't moving" that image just freaks me out. Frozen in death and time, out in the water...
How was his light on for 10 years
@@otraves4236 It was later that same day. Dion's body had been down there for 10 years, Dave and his team went to recover it, and then Dave died during the recovery effort.
Literate Idiot the real video type in Dave Shaw’s last dive
otra ves it was Dave’s light not Dion’s
It could just mean a fish swam past it for a second though
10:01 I feel Dave at this moment must have realized the true gravity of the situation he had put himself in. To literally look a dead man in the face who died exactly where you stand, hundreds of feet beneath the surface in the blackness of the water and realize that you are walking a thin line between life and death, as your head spins and you begin to lose control. Chilling as hell to put yourself in the shoes of.
Dang son
Oh hello Death not nice to meet you
he looks as if he was fiddling with the blade too much. He was clearly losing focus and unable to handle the situation.
I’m to scared to look at the skull
the gravity of the situation? is that a JOJO reference?
That gave me chills "Daves not coming back"
Dave's not here man.
Rip Dave KIA
No it could be used if he was actually killed, but he just died
Autistic Pigeon he wasn’t really in “action” but okay
Me an intellectual: KIA is a car brand
For those asking….if you’ve never seen what happens to a dead body underwater let me explain. They still decompose… they leak,bloat and explode…some go through late-stage postmortem decomp also called adipocere, etc. All those things contaminate the water and that’s why it’s really important to get them out as soon as possible. Also, another reason is that sometimes people pass away in popular dive locations, and unless the body is recovered they can’t allow people to continue to go in there. Alot of times these tragedies happen inside of state parks etc…and the parks usually just want the body out so that they can continue having people come in and use that dive spot. My entire family, including myself are all CCR (closed circuit rebreather) certified cave divers, and both of my parents spent four years doing body recovery. So there are environmental reasons and other contributing factors why we want to get bodies out. We can usually test the water to see if something is decomposing in there…. if the water shows no decomposition but we haven’t located a body, we usually can tell that either there’s no body in there or it’s not in the water. If something is decomposing in the water and we cannot either locate or retrieve the body, we usually seal off the cave. Yes, people want the bodies of their loved ones but there are so many reasons we recover bodies…
very fascinating! Thank you for sharing that info
What would happen if someone dive to contaminate water
Why is it bad to dive in contaminated water? Animals do decompose in water too if dying there... 🤔 Awsome info on the matter!👌
@@controversy3032 land mammals decompose in water all the time too, lol. Polar bears, grizzly bears, deer, moose, all die in and around water- rivers, lakes, ponds, streams..
Nobody dived it to that depth except those two. There was no benefit
When they came back to recover his body they had a line hooked to him. They pulled him up and noticed he had an extra line hooked to him. When they pulled it up they realised it was tied to the original body they had come for. So dave had kept his promise and brought their son home.
Damn...
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Bruh that’s just sad
Dude.... 😢
Wow....
Man ending your life to bring someone else closure
I personally feel if that was my son. I would've called that cave his grave. I seriously wouldn't want any other person to jeopardize their life to recover his body.
i mean it was daves idea so 🤷♀️
Same here I would talk him out if it
Cave grave rave
If i was dave i would have gave up on recovering the body as soon as i felt the slightest amount of sickness
That's easy to say post mortem. If an experienced diver came and offered to dive it's not in their hands to say yes or no. Racing motorbikes is dangerous but you don't get out and tell Rossi not to ride. Dave Shaw was an Aussie hero and is an Aussie legend. Nobody can take that away from him
My diving instructor died looking for cracks in dams. That was his main job. Unfortunately there was a big crack than they anticipated and he was glued to the dam wall due to the pressure sucking and holding him there. He ran out of air before they could get a team to extract him. I quit taking diving lessons.
Sorry to hear that. It's awful.
holy shit, thats awful. Hopefully they'll use robots instead
Yeah, diving is something I'm never attempting.
Thats horrifying, cant imagine the feeling of being sucked by a crack underwater, must of been extremeley difficult to extract him from it. Thanks for sharing
Sry man hope u do good tho
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Oh my god
How r u bro u recovered or not
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How do you fall asleep listening to stories about someone's final moments. I'm too scared of these videos to sleep lol
@@wingjaigaming8240he makes videos. He probably listens to tales from the bottle
Additionally, what's insane is... They were doing a small gathering after finding that they weren't coming back.. speaking of them fondly, only for both of the bodies to suddenly surface.
Scary.. sad.. and amazing all at once.
@Xelocon that the bodies showed up after they were talking about them
@Xelocon Because they didn't think the bodies were coming back.
@@peterhoulihan9766 But people were pulling on the ropes? Surely the ropes'd be connected to everyone's bodies?
@@cate01a Not the way your thinking. Would have only served to tangle him/them up. Given that it WAS line(s) he got tangled in that heavily contributed to his death.
The bodies didn’t really surface, they floated up to the roof of the cave where they were later found by a dive team gathering up equipment
Imagine spending 12 hours getting back to the surface. Lots of time to think.
I would not be able to take it I have anxiety issues and that would fuck me up
@@Evergreen1400 Same here and I'm claustrophobic too.
he wasn't aware of his full mental state for months, i think he was just surviving in a semicoma for the 12 hours alone, and probably the months after. they had to put him in a special oxygen/co2 ratio for a week after he was rescued and healed. i really do think he was unable to think, just his senses.
Ya, thinking stuff like "If you can't change your future by changing the past, then how did captain America become an old man by staying back in time?"
look up the guy who was stuck underwater for 3 days
It’s now a general rule in cave diving to leave bodies where they lay, because this isn’t an isolated incident
Should have been a rule from the jump, dangerous as it is already diving alive but to go get a dead mf is just insane...he died having a ego
Truth…that was like digging up someone at the cemetery but way more dangerous. What happened to him was unfortunate, but that had become is resting place and they just had to go down there fucking with him.
@@brazymoneybaggmelo2398 David Shaw was anything but egotistical, he was an amazing human and one of the greatest technical divers in history. To talk of him as a glory seeking individual is very disrespectful.
@@melikesleepy well yea I'm pretty sure he was a good person wen he was in his right State of mind,"all of us"..but he made a stupid decision,ain't my fault,just call it like it is,that was very stupid of him to go do a mission like that,tf🤔
@mikhael a promise to a complete stranger can be broken, a promise he made to his wife CAN NOT
Dave Shaw actually dreamed of finding a body diving. Dave said when he found Deon, that Deon was in the same exact position as in Dave's dream. Thats why he was connected to the body.
the man literally looked into the eyes of another deadman, at that point ur fate is pretty much sealed
yeah its chilling and sad
You can use a computer, but you can't figure out capitalization, or how to spell "your" like a big boy.
@@slappy8941 Grammar Nazi...
@@slappy8941 If you have any friends you'd know that it's the least of anyone's concern nowadays
@@slappy8941 Look above and realize most people anymore just think people such as yourself are the idiot here. We don't care which "your" or "Their" we use... we are not writing a Thesis, we are writing UA-cam comments for fuck sake stupid.
This is a fine example of "Some things are better left Untouched"
DIYtechnology no it isnt they wanted there son back
@@uwumaster9512 and Dave's family want him
@@uwumaster9512 it was daves idea not the family.
Yes indeed why would some one let any1 risk their lives like this
Even tho they are Pros at diving this is just way to far like why would someone do this
Yup
"Dave's not coming back" that's the most disturbing shit I've ever heard.
Well he did come back but not on his own.
@Nick does Quad drumming Yeah... That is not a good way to die :/
@@feexy41 at least he didn't turn in to corpse wax.😰
Daves not here man.
it was the note that Don wrote when the first diver met him in his way back up at 120m. "Dave not coming back"
The thing that really bothers me about this story is that, eventually they got Shaw and Dreyers bodies out as they had floated to the area that rescue divers could reach them. The Dreyer family took their son, had him cremated and then they dumped his ashes right back into the hole he dies in. What a freakin waste!!
They did ? Omg I missed that ! Horrendous
So another man died, with another suffering extreme injuries and trauma, just so they could put their son back in the hole they'd just fished him out of? What a damn waste of life!
Oh damn. Wtf
Didnt think id ever say this about the parents of a dead man but damn. What a bunch of wankers
I had not heard about that. People's actions are incomprehensible sometimes...
This is exactly why the dead are left on Everest. Adding a belated comment: It’s like anything in life, you throw enough cash at a problem it will be solved. Fame too maybe. The hunt for the remains of Mallory and Irvine is a good example even though they weren’t in the death zone.
2 reason actually
But yes mostly because rescue attempt is hard
@@projectkepleren Hard is low. Balling it. Life threatening and extremely difficult maybe? Wellness on you.
@@joshrandal6982 yeah it's super dangerous to recover body and kinda not worth it
@@projectkepleren they become place markers.
This is the thing that makes me the most depressed. Someone killing themselves to honor someone who has died. It really isn't worth it, in my opinion. I don't think the living should kill themselves to put a body in the ground.
I remember when this happened. As a former commercial diver, I've never fully understood why people do this kind of diving. 250m+ is crazy deep on scuba.
He was literally one of only ten people who had done so at the time.
Still, when you think about the cause, can you blame him? No one was more qualified, and he was willing to do the job. One or two circumstances change (like the tanks getting unstuck) and he likely makes it out alive.
Because people are stupid that's why
@@CGoody564 yes I can blame him. What a stupid fucking thing to do, throwing your life away to recover a fucking corpse.
I can't even understand how such dives are possible
@@FunkyEspelhoCat They are possible. But, no comms, no tether to the surface, a finite supply of breathing gas, no standby diver or partner to help you. Even in a well organised commercial situation with all of the above, it is an extremely risky undertaking. 12 hours in water decompression? It's not suicide. But, the risks are very, very high.
When the goggles turned towards him, that’s some spooky shit out of a movie. But it’s real.
And the fact his head was decapitated from his body is so scary, a bad choice they made to go down there
@@rrauly1166 when does it mention it was decapitated lol
@Atomic Scarecrow 9:56
@@cosmiclevi5274 if you read the story on the internet, it says his leg and head were both off his body
@@rrauly1166 ok that's creepy
This was a very respectful commentary, narrated without sensationalism nor judgmentalism. Thank you for honoring the memories of both Dave and Deon.
ABSOLUTELY!
the uncontrollable vomiting in between breaths and barely even being able to breathe, all while in scuba-diving gear, is the most horrifying part to me.
Don't forget it took them 12 hours to bring him to the surface...after he'd already began vomiting.
puking in my motorbike helmet(while doing 90 on the motorway) was bad enough for me, crazy why people do these dangerous deeds WHY
@@bobmiller7502 I think that about motorbikes. U can be as safe as u want but there's always gonna be potential idiots driving around u. I love superbikes but i can't get one for that reason
And somehow he's the one that survived 😯
You can blow chunks through a regulator. It’s dangerous and nasty but as long as you keep your mouth gripped on it, you can still breathe between each stomach convulsion.
I'm sorry but this is the absolute most terrifying thing I have ever witnessed. Pure terror. Can you imagine how isolated it felt to be in a pitch black, freezing abyssal pit that's already taken the life of the man whose corpse is now staring you as you feel yourself dying down there with him? Nightmares.
Like I told someone else.. if witnessing someone else in this situation is the most terrifying thing you've ever witnessed, then you live a hell.of a good life
@@potatoboidvidi What..? Did you see someone's head get cut off while being raped or what?
@@aizen38 the world is a scary, horrifying, and deadly place. Always has been, but nowadays there's more people to be victims and more cameras to show it. I'm lucky enough to have never experienced anything too crazy myself, but from stories my family tells of the USSR, and especially my dad telling about what he saw while at sea, as well as countless videos online, I think I know enough to say you really have to become the best and strongest person you can be to survive it, and even then you should pray for good luck just in case.
Also, even though it's illogical, I understand and believe the superstitions sailors and divers have about the sea. It's all just a body of water, but even the most unsinkable ships and the most skilled of seamen get pulled to their deaths on its whim.
@@benji45645 Yeah I agree with you. The world is indeed a very dark place terrifying place, sometimes i wish i wasn't born in it. But ill just have to get stronger and live life to the fullest, hoping I don't come across any crazy situations like that though.
There's much worse on the internet
Nobodt is talking about being in the dark water for 12 hours while being sick...
pure hell
Yeah, I was wondering how the hell you vomit under water let alone do it for 12 hours and not drown.
can't be more obvious, sherlock
@@28russ yeah thats why he spent 2 weeks on a chamber or something
@@28russ you can vomit straight through your regulator in scuba
Edit: nevermind. he says they're using rebreathers. idk about puking in that kind of set-up
This channel and this story was the first UA-cam channel I watched when my 50-year-old self finally decided to see what all the UA-cam fuss was about a few years ago.
This story BREAKS MY HEART. Dion's parents never should have asked that of Dave and I'm sure they feel horrible about it. If it were one of my 4 adult kids I would at least be comforted that they died doing what they love most in the world. It's no different than scattering his ashes into the sea in my opinion.
You are an incredible narrator and give the victims the respect they deserve. Thank you!
I don’t even think they did ask it of him. I got the impression from the video that he decided to do it for them, rather than them deciding to request it of him
@@MyratheDunmer You're broadly correct.
The effort was mostly Shaw's own initiative to help combined with him wanting to make a documentary on deep dives and body recoveries, which if completed may have paved the way for recoveries in the future.
The parents did not openly request Dave to retrieve their son, he just had an idea to do a good deed and shoot a valuable documentary at the same time.
I second THAT! Excellent work -
I used to know David Shaw's son
My dad worked as a pastor in Australia and he actually built a good friendship with David Shaw's son, Steve, who would frequently take me to the Melbourne aquarium when he found the time. Unfortunately, that was many years ago, and back then I had no idea that Steve's father had died in such a horrible accident. Unfortunately I have not seen him for many years and, even to this day, 10 years later, I miss Steve greatly, and wish that I still had a relationship with him.
If anybody who reads this knows Steve, please tell him that I pray that he's doing ok. You were an awesome guy, and me and my family loved you very much. God bless.
God I hope y'all get reunited🌹😥
This must be him, based around Coburg / Brunswick too: www.nelsonalexander.com.au/real-estate-agents/steven-shaw/243/
This is a good comment. Hope you find him to tell him in person.
hope u find him someday
You’ll find him someday hopefully! The internet has its own special powers to make things happen :)
I find that not doing activities like this help me not die.
Fax
Indubitably
You still alive?
Same
OP is kill
First rule of scuba diving. Never dive alone
You know unless you got the license for that.
I have the best tip for not dying in a scuba spelunking trip.
Dont scuba spelunk
@weißer Ritter Bro, it is awesome, don't let stories like this sway you.
Same thing I was thinking, I'm not a diver but in any hazardous situations wouldn't diving in pairs have been the standard?
@@squillamsquallace2468 sounds like something a drowned corpse wax scuba zombie would say, I'm on to your tricks you son of a bitch Davy Jones won't take me that easily
@@macbrown99 _Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn._
Mac
Respect to dave.. He did what he promised. may his soul rest in peace.
Probably promised his family hed be coming home. That his kids would have a daddy. Just irresponsible and stupid.
@@a.nobodys.nobody You must be great at funerals
I know everyone is saying this is heroic that he returned their son to them, but imagine the horrible guilt the parents must have now, knowing their quest to bring their son home just led to even more death and suffering.
The humane thing was to leave the body. The risk to reward ratio was not acceptable.
David knew the risks associated with what he was about to do. Had he not been prepared to lose his life in the pursuit of this endeavor, I’m sure he never would have undertaken the responsibility. I hope the parents were able to find some closure in the fact that David passed on doing what he loved to do.
Agreed.
@@sultanofsauce9816 I think that's just something we say to make ourselves feel better. Well at least they died doing what they loved. He loved diving. He didn't love being tangled up in ropes, drunk failing at his task on the bottom of the ocean. He loved diving and returning. People say the same thing when somebody dies climbing. People love climbing. They don't love falling or freezing to death. Let's stop sugar coating it.
@@auntedna6376 Yeah that saying is pretty damn stupid now that I think about it
@@auntedna6376 exactly. Though I understand why families may take comfort from thinking a loved one passed on their own terms to some degree.
Damn. My uncle is a rescue/recovery diver for our countys EMS and he had to look at footage from a gopro of a womans lungs popping because she forgot to breathe out when resurfacing, I can only imagine how those people felt when watching the footage
Edit: i forgot to mention the reason he could see it is because he was the one who dove down and retrieved the body
That's fucking crazy
What do you mean they "popped"? And why did they "pop"?
@@gabrieleamenta6197 from what I know as she was rising up to the surface because the pressure was getting lower and lower, the air expanded, which caused her air sacs in her lungs to burst
When diving as you ascend you have to breath out so that the pressure can equalize, if you don't you risk the small sacs that make up your lungs, the alveoli, popping. Best case scenario you need to go to the hospital worst case is death. Dive safely and within you limits.
Thanks for the answers, didn't know about this
It’s chilling to see how still Dave went when Dion’s goggles turned towards him, Like he had just realized something very bad was going to happen.
That was the “oh fuck” moment :(
I read this comment and thought to myself, Atleast the goggles were there, what would it be like if they weren’t...?
I think the video speed was just slowed down for the Dion's goggles moment. Dave seems man enough to not throw a scaredy fit over seeing more of a corpse that he already knew about.
@@PoochieCollins And this was the second time he encountered the body anyway.
@@VCthaGOATdunker : yeah, and if I recall he was stuck by dead man's tanks being wedged into the muck, such that David would've seen his face the first time specifically, probably.
The way he looks into the camera and is in the dark, feels so raw and human, you can tell he really feels the stories and not just tells them.
Funny, I feel the exact opposite. In the dark to try and seem spooky, while using other people's footage and not crediting the sources. Kinda sleazy and cheesy.
@@aussiechris5904 😐
@@aussiechris5904 Cause it is sleazy and lazy.
@@aussiechris5904I agree he also became a millioner recently
Imagine how scary that is. You go so deep down, it’s so dark, you can barely breathe normally, and then you realize you’ll never see the surface again.
That is just depressing.
Being 270 meters below the surface and realizing that you fucked up and have no chance to return alive must actually be the worst feeling possible
As a fellow pro diver, I really hope Dave was narcosised up, it may even have been peaceful at the end.
@@keithsmith1936 Yeah me too. And I don't think he realised, probably felt happy and relaxed then just went to sleep. I hope. Very sad for his people though.
This channel is a perfect example of how you don't need to have the best equipment to have a great channel. I think a lot of people put off starting a channel (me included) because their mic sounds bad etc. But if the content is good it doesn't matter. Edit: I now have created a new video, (Definitely not a shameless plug of my channel) (I'm sorry)
Ironically I had just bought a lav mic to use with the camera but forgot to use it.
@Enda Dorgan I think at some point I will finally decide to make videos that aren't bad, currently all my videos are just bad memes but I have an idea for a channel that I just never get round to starting. And quite a few channels like this one have made me stop waiting for better equipment and to just start. (Hopefully by next week or something I'll make a video, and now I've left this comment I've forced myself to make a video.) Hopefully.
i wanted to make a YT channel back in 2012 but thats when youtube started rolling in those shady and floaty laws of theirs and i really cant be bothered with getting the demonitezations off possibly every god damn video i upload
Totally agree. I love this guy
You can make a good quality mic from pencil graphite, Google how to do it. It might take you a few trys to make it sound good though as you need to get the shaved bit as flat as possible.
I done some quick maths and their at a depth of 271 meters or 890 freedom feet, the titanic was just under 883 feet long, which means if you stood the titanic vertically in the cave, David would be able to stand under it and still have some head room. Puts how deep they were into perspective.
thank you
DO YOU BELEIVE IN OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST?
@@night1673 I believe in meme lords, so if Jesus was a meme lord then id believe in him :D
@@escaladep Jesus is not a meme lord...
HES A MEME LEGEND
@@night1673 🙌
I remember reading about this a long time ago. Dave had actually tied the rope to Deandres body on his first dive so he could find him. And on his second dive he had a rope tied to himself and attached to the guide rope so he could find his way back to it from the body just in case something happened. So when they pulled up the guide rope that had all the tanks on it eventually it also pulled Dave up and then also Deandre. I alway wondered why divers don’t use a rope attached to them to find their way back or if need be to pull them out if they get lost or die. Dave’s buddy who went to find him and his gear broke should have just been able to grab a rope and tug on it to get Dave to come back or started pulling it if he thought Dave was in trouble.
As far as my limited understanding: it seems like our body cannot ascend quickly withouy dying. Even Don who was critical at a shallower depth needed 12 hours to ascend, and with great effort from the team. Once Don saw that the light wasn't moving it was over.
The line might help, but with such poor visibility and the effects of diving gas and pressure, figuring out which thing coming off your body is the line at all seems to be difficult, and even if you do find the line, it's not exactly taut, and lengths of it might have drifted deeper, leading you down or in circles instead of up.
@@aquageist that's true I always imagine a tight rope you can pull on to ascend, but it would be flopping everywhere in the water so you atill have to ascend somehow and not straight up maybe sideways or down for a while.. scary thanks for your input very interesting
The ropes also carry an entanglement risk. It can snag on the terrain, or your gear, in unfortunate ways at critical moments...
I'm impressed with the lady in charge. When told Dave had passed, she got up immediately to start the safe resurfacing process for Don.
It's the same thing in mountaineering, when you know someone is dead you immediately concentrate on the living who will die if you do not act.
Depends on how your emotions are wired with reactions. From my perspective I go cold and clinical and not even have a reaction at the time. As in choosing which injured person to help and just decide who has the better chance of living and who I can help. At the time you are auto pilot, no second guessing the decision. AT THE TIME! Later when you have time you think and react like a "human" is not so great! 😕😕
@@BobbieSmith46 Exactly. In this situation there is just no place for emotions. Immediate decisions must be made which directly affect the well-being of others whose life depends on you in that moment. If that lady couldn't do that and act as professionally as she does, she would clearly be in the wrong job.
@@mobbkopf I just wish the emotions and memories would stay away after it is over lol.
Yeah but it had to work like that bec you Can't panic in a situation like that
Could you imagine how haunting it would be to see the light of your partner knowing that they're dead, it's a confusing emotional contrast of hope and despair with the distraught of knowing that the person down there is dead and the natural hope of a light in the darkness.
Imagine you know he’d dead but it starts *Moving*
Rival Racer Gaming Ima have to ask you to stop right there, no further please
Autistic Pigeon imagine it speeding towards you after
Nope, nope, nope... time to create a new world/planet, I won't stand for that!
@@lujos5913 I might just break the valve off of the end of one of my air tanks, and use the thrust to rocket to the surface-- decompression sickness be damned.
...I'd rather do THAT, than to see what was holding Dave's light and coming up towards me...
I got chills when it was mentioned both bodies were retrieved. It came over me that Dave infact made good on his promise to Deon's parents that he would retrieve deon's body. Absolutely heart wrenching that he died in the process though.
This goes to show that no matter how experienced you are and how many professionals you have watching over for your safety. THINGS CAN ALWAYS GO WRONG
R.I.P to this legend that kept his promise at the cost of his life🙏
@Yourubecan Blowme that statement is very hypocritical
@Yourubecan Blowme did you not watch the video? Both bodies were recovered that’s how they got the footage
@Yourubecan Blowme calm down, there's no need for that.
@Yourubecan Blowme wow you are a special kind of asshole aren’t you?
@John Jones Dave Died while trying to retrieve the body Deon Dreyer(the body he discover last time) . Both body is tangled to a rope and thats the reason why dave died is because he want to get of the entanglement and breathing so much air causing too much CO2 in the tank. Since (Deon Dreyer) body has been decomposing a lot thus it has more buoyancy which let it to be float and since Dave body also is entangled so both their body float together. Both bodies were found 8 days after cause their friend had to retrieved back some tank that was still in the cave and they found the rope and notice that it was the same rope Dave had use so they kept pulling till they pull up both the bodies. Its a really sad case and technically Dave did brought back Deon Dreyer eventhough it cost his life
Nitrogen narcosis doesn’t really feel like being drunk, it’s more like being hit with laughing gas. You’re completely aware of your surroundings and the danger you’re in, yet you just don’t care and you feel extremely happy and care free. That’s what makes it so dangerous. I’ve been narc’d many times and luckily I’ve always had a buddy diver. I am particularly susceptible to it for some reason and if I spend very much bottom time at all around 120-150 feet I get narc’d. Sometimes worse than others. But it’s really a wonderful feeling, just incredibly dangerous.
Good to hear that you're ok
Oh good to hear that your ok
That may explain why Shaw didn't immediately abort when things started going wrong. The carefree feeling may have made him over confident
That’s strangely comforting. It’s better than panic. Glad you have great friends who look out for you. That’s a blessing.
I've heard of divers with Nitrogen Narcosis taking off their regulators while at depth. Scary stuff.
love this series and the tales from the bottle my dude, keep it up.
Cheers mate!
@@Qxir he should've had someone to help him god bless his soul
You love a series that is only alive by getting footages of people getting killed. Haha nothing wrong with that, keep watching because it's one of the best.
mega michael kind of random but are you a mega man main?
Qxir Please make More Diver Last Moments Videos. Videos Ocean Based atleast please! This blew up you’re channel because I just found out who you are
My favorite telling of this story. Thank you for giving Shaw the respect he deserves, it was a noble thing he was doing.
The fact that the camera got a pretty good shot of the body looking straight at him
Timestamp please?
@@jackieweaver3884 10:02
@@cheapship6843 thanks. that was horrifying, truly tragic.
@@jackieweaver3884 yes it is. Very unfortunate of what happened.
@@cheapship6843i came here from the cave exploration deaths, its even more tragic because it could be 100% prevented. what i dont understand is why the parents would suddenly want their son to be rescued after 10 years of his death. its pretty obvious there were no chances of his surviving, and that the dive was lethal.
Diving is cool and all especially in bright seas where you can see the wildlife but I'll never understand the thrill of deep ocean or in this case cave diving.
@Matthew Ryan Or wreck diving. I liked being able to see the surface, or at least know there was nothing between me and it.
Me either
@@lesnyk255 wreck diving is very cool, but you know, around the wreck not in it
I'm not saying I disagree with you....I also like to be able to see the surface from below! The idea of being trapped in a cave underwater is terrifying. BUT-I feel the draw of the desire to explore underwater caves for their beauty and mystery. But I definitely prefer the ocean at 30 meters or so!
That's it the thrill of knowing well you may not come back up the thrill of knowing how no one will be able to get your body being in a very dark place and somewhere that no one Is with you being totally in a place so cold and so dark nothing will most likely be down there with you your completely alone and your immersed in the darkness that's why they do it or that's why I think they do it
I can't imagine having to throw up under water & then repeatedly between gasping for air. That part must have been true hell.
Imagine the terror he felt, poor guy probably shit himself in terror while struggling
Wouldn't even wish that on my enemies,that's such a horrible feeling of dread and terror
The stuff happening right there doesn’t really come anywhere close to that of hell, but ok..
@@diobrando5549 stfu nigga
@@diobrando5549 Hell is worse but slowly dying while literally looking into the eyes of death itself is such a terrifying moment
It's amazing Don survived. Almost everyone would die in that situation, including Don, which probably means everyone. If he had missed the line as he reached out for it, he would be dead.
I hate literally everything about this.
Metoo
@x xx how is the audio bad
x xx Bruh go away, nobody wants your irrelevant negativity.
@x xx how the fuck is that audio bad? Do you have such bad ears that a slight echo makes something impossible to understand for you or are you just spoiled by the 1000$ microphones used by the common upper class youtubers?
nobody really cares. nobody is forcing you to watch it. i think you just want to bitch and moan about it in the comments.
"Dave's not coming back" Damn, that gave me the chills.
Although recovering this young man's body was a noble idea and mission, it was a stupid one. Recovering bodies from dangerous, deep, underwater caverns should be much like recovering bodies from death zones on high peaks. There's a reason that recoveries are seldom ever attempted on mountains, at certain altitudes and under certain unfavorable conditions... more often than not, they result in further loss of life. Cave diving is on the same or higher level of danger as scaling mountains. That young man died taking a risk and his family at least knew his fate and knew where his body rested. Whether at the bottom of a cave or 6 feet under a cemetery, it's still a grave. No one should have attempted to recover that body and I guess ultimately they did, but at a high cost.
@@lisafoos8976 I'm sure most explorers understand and accept this fact. I think the families of these explorers should also accept it.
@@lisafoos8976 of course it's different, none of us as parents can decide what passions our children might pursue and we can't necessarily agree with those activities, but I do think it is selfish to ask or allow others to put their life in danger just to recover the body of someone who willingly put themselves at risk. There might be a few exceptions to this, such as soldiers lost at war, but the difference is that one dies in selfless service, the other in selfish pursuits. Nonetheless, not having a body to mourn must be hard for the majority of family members who lose someone in inaccessible places.
@@lisafoos8976 no I wasnt saying that an adventurer is themselves selfish as a whole, but the pursuit of potentially deadly activities for self pleasure or self discovery are in essence selfish because they are for the "self" and can and often do in fact, hurt our loved ones in one or many ways... emotionally, psychologically, financially, and often permanently. Naturally we are ALL selfish on some level. But I agree with you on your last point, I was once someone who pursued many dangerous, life threatening activities and I loved the feeling of danger, of overcoming the risk and adversity and the self confidence and self discovery that came with it. I no longer do this because people depend on me, but had I died back then when I was taking all those risks, my demise due to those choices would have deeply hurt many people and obviously I wouldn't have the life I have today. I'm glad God always watched over me and he apparently had different plans for me than an untimely demise, not that my number can't be called without notice at any minute right? Not the case for everyone.
@@lisafoos8976 Indeed, plus I'm pretty sure I'm too old now for most any of those extreme shenanigans lol. I just hope God has an honorable death in store for me and not something like Cancer... I'd rather die by a coconut falling on my head like that French lady in the Bahamas, but I'm a bit hardheaded so I don't know, it may take a piano.
Completely agree. The grave even had a plaque dedicated to Deon, so it was fully a grave. If you have a lived one that participates in activities like this, you need to accept what comes with it.
Dave's decision to retrive dreyers remain was outrageous, being a family man with wife n childrens his decision of retrival was uncalled for. Unfortunately he chose to gameble his family's future over a decade old skeletal remain. RIP.
I feel like his ego took over his common sense. Believing that esince he found him once, he’d have no problem retrieving him.
I was initially mad at the parents for risking someone else’s life, for bones. But I’m sure Dave probably told the parents it would be “no problem”
I do know that when they both were recovered the parents of the younger guy sat with his corpse for hours. Very, very odd. Especially since he’d been reduced to corpse wax 😬
@@nunyanope4988 he did the dive to prove that he could repeat it. Of course ego played a roll but was not the determining factor.
Agree
My thoughts exactly, he traded his children's future with their Dad, for a dead body. And maybe 15 minutes of fame. 😢
Reckless. He had a responsibility to come home to his family and failed them. I would be mad/hurt, no doubt.
All I can say is GEEZ, imagine how the parents of the first dead guy feel now. Ouch.
Jesus christ, the guilt
They were foolish to have expected to have their son's body retrieved. Another life lost -- for what?
@Morna Erwin well he promised
@@encross8058 They were selfish to expect it of him.
@@morna1953 why are they selfish? The guy called them out of the blue promising a recovery.
Can't be at fault for expecting the word of someone else. Not for this. Fuck yourself.
I can't imagine how terrifying it must be to die in these circumstances. Dave Shaw was such a brave & kind man to try helping out the Dreyer family; so is Don. I hope the parents don't blame themselves... Any diver this experienced would have known this was a dangerous dive, & would have understood what might happen. I hope Dave's surviving family are okay, too. It's okay to still grieve & miss someone who made a sacrifice for others, even if you're proud of them, it's still painful.
Nicodemus as brave as he is, I would personally call him stupid. Why ever put yourself at that much risk over som1 who’s already dead, not worth it
Autistic Pigeon sometimes you gotta do stupid things to be brave
@@f1rebreather123 Yep, I think that's called a, "calculated risk".
Once he realized the body was free he should have just started pulling it to the other divers. But when this occured, more people had walked on the moon than dived below 250m, and his original dive when he found the body is the record dive for this area.
Autistic Pigeon
Shameful. You should learn some respect. Until you’ve done something high risk for someone else like this, just sit quietly.
That footage was absolutely chilling, unnerving, and still it was something that he did for nothing more than to give solace to grieving parents.
Who is going to give solace to his wife and kids?
At that time, 10 yrs had passed since their son’s death. I think they have made their closure with his unfortunate passing
, but this incident might have brought up further trauma and grief, not only because it reminded them of how they felt when they lost their son, but also because of another man’s death related to it. I wouldn’t say it was worth it. Dave knew the risks.
@Susan Elizabeth out of water just to be placed under ground like a mole rat. Yea totally make sense.
@@isobel64 yeah this wasn’t necessary. It’s not like the body is intact or anything, it’s “a soup.” It’s already buried deep in the water why bring him up just to bury him under the ground. Now a wife and two kids lost someone that didn’t need to be lost.
I love how humanizing and compassionate your last comments are. Well done.
using a hand held light seems stupid when you need both hands to work.
Exactly all that work with just one hand.
He had a light on his helmet too but he wanted to see where he was tangled up with the one in his hand
He also didn't have any directional equipment to show which way is up, this was poorly planned
@@Mrveescuba your English is very bad, I don't understand you
@@Mrveescuba I saw you edited it, its still bad
At least he died fulfilling his promise not a lot of people have that in them. I think he should have had help
You should never go in the water alone
Sneaky *_big yikes with that profile picture_*
@@jameson1239 ya one guy just to keep an eye on him but its so dangerous you're now risking 2 down there? At the end of the day some people want to push boundaries and set new limits doing what they love.
Too bad he didn't just tie a line around the bodies legs and not mess around with a bag. Seems like they over complicated the plan unnecessarily at the most dangerous point.
@@grimmblade the body has been there for 10 years, i think it'll split in half before even reaching the surface... but you've got a point tho, it's too risky..
I wonder if he promised his kids he'd come home?
Man literally knew he was gonna die but still went "well a promise is a promise" and brought back the body. Legend
I'm an underwater cave diver for just about 4yrs in the Philippines, but I have also traveled and explored underwater caves in Indonesia and Thailand, it is really fun doing activities like this, but there is also danger, I remember my 12th cave diving in Philippines "paglugaban cave" in palawan one of our teammates got his foot stuck between rocks, luckily it is not a very deep cave, we are just about to enter the cave when his foot got stuck, luckily it just took 4mins that we managed to pull his foot out, I got panicked because it is my first time seeing tragic like that, I mean first it's underwater, and secondly the fear that we will not able to pull him. And I'm happy that last 2 months my last dive nothing tragic happened and my teammates are ok, I wish all my co-divers out there, that they're no tragic or accidents will happen to you, keep safe in diving
This was indeed a chilling, frightening story, and I don't think I'm the only one who appreciates your respectful and professional conduct, as well as the good production quality. Well done.
Mmm yeah he was good but not the best. I thought the cold dramatic lighting was a bit uncalled for- this a very sad story of lives lost and should not be so theatrically lit. Also, the sound quality of his mic is terrible. I nearly closed the video at the start because of that.
@@SirArthurTheGreat Are you joking? It matters because it sets the tone of horrific death of human beings into spooky disaster stories. ... Mate has death ever visited your door? your family? the person you loved? Judging from your comment I'm guessing it hasn't.
True horror:
Being alone with only your thoughts for 12 hours
I would want to pass out, I would hate to be in the dark where you dont know where anything is at and have no hope of leaving and you just feel that strong water on your body while being pretty much drunk
Underwater inside a suit not being able to even feel your own skin
Tenebris?
I'm Tired Of My Old Name
AD PRAFUNDIS!
And in pitch black water
Dave did what he said he would do. He just didn't know the cost.
He did. I think one of the teammates or Dave himself said, "You are for you, and I am for me". Meaning if something happens to anyone, they're dead, so don't try to be a hero and save them.
he did. every diver in that group knew the possible cost. All had last wills prepared.
So wen u go swim in crocodile infested Waters u think u don't know the cost ,come in how dumb is this comment 🤦
@@brazymoneybaggmelo2398 wat
@@MicahActuallyScott u said he wouldn't know the outcome..cave diving that deep bro how u wouldn't know the outcome,like I say if u dive in a gator infested river you would know the damn outcome of u not getting out in one piece at least,dude read
"5 minutes recovering the body" doesn't seem nearly enough. Especially considering that Dave believed Deon's body to be stuck in mud (as it was when Dave found him the first time, but had since become unstuck). But I understand that you can't stay long at such depth.
Dave's original plan was to detach Deon's tanks (which where keeping the body stuck in the mud), then put him in the bag, all the while making sure that Deon's head or feet or hands didn't detach from the body (as the only parts of the body outside of the diving suit).
Except when he reached Deon's body this second time, Dave realized that Deon had become unstuck. So when Dave reached for him, he had a whole decomposed body to try and control underwater, rather than a still body to simply work a body bag over.
The first thing Dave did was put Deon's feet and legs in the bag, and only then he tried to detach the tanks, but soon enough he noticed a problem: the rope Dave had used to connect Deon to the main guide line had become entangled with the body.
As you can see in the footage, pretty early on Dave had to disentangle his own light from the line. After failing to free Deon, Dave gave up and started making his way up, most likely thinking of trying again another time, with a plan to tackle a free floating body with tanks and rope all over.
But as he was leaving Deon's body, Dave realized that he'd become entangled in the line as well.
He spent his last moments trying to cut the line and be free.
I really hope he passed out, if I drowned I’d want to not feel myself drowning
I've heard that drowning feels like getting drunk, so maybe not so bad.. xD
Radim Ziegler yes, you get the same dizziness as when you're drunk, but it's much painful
@@crook7493 how would you know when no one has drowned and came back to life and the very few people that have lose memory due to blood flow so in reality your just chatting shit mate
Since he had a mask and breather on I would have guessed he would have suffocated rather than drowned
@@dee4024 Very few people but some didnt
‘Let the dead bury themselves.’
Jesus?
@@petetong9725 yep
Loosely quoted from New Testament parable.
@Sha Dee Either are good sayings because more than enough people do seal their own fate...literally
"But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead." Matthew 8:22
Rising the dead is the name of the book that documents the life and death of Dave Shaw, written by his best friend and Co diver Don Shirley. One of the most chilling books I've read,highly recommended. Great channel, super content and well narrated.
Thanks for letting us know!
Thank you, might read... but I'm too chilled for now
Isn't it written by Phillip Finch?
@@bushratbeachbum I'll be honest,I can't remember, I passed the book onward. You are probably right. Either way,a great story.
commenting so i remember to get this
This is one of the most compelling and creepy videos I have ever seen and I keep coming back to watch it again. These last moment videos are awesome
Why tf can’t this dude put a freakin light on in his room
*AMBIENCE*
Lmao
It would feel like watching comedy maybe?
All the cockroaches would scatter. Then he wouldn’t get to stroke them as they crawl all over his body.
@@gatzad ...w h a t?
What blows my mind is that when Dave started getting hit with Martini's law, he was experiencing the effect of *eighteen* dry martinis due to being at a depth of 270 metres.
Yip that is more than a bottle of liquor going straight to the brain. He should have had at minimum comms with the surface. Or a dive buddy to let him know nope this is not working let's leave the body.
The 1st sign that he should have bailed on the idea was when the bottles was loose already. The dive was not going to plan the moment he reached the body. That was not planned for. Every second counts.
But most of us know how you reason when you drunk. I can do this hold my beer and watch this move.
@magnum chocolattee people get off on risks. Obviously it didnt go to plan with the body being dislodged, he should have resurfaced straight up and rethink what to do. Even if its a big waste of time, its not worth your life
@magnum chocolattee It's a thrill for them. People go skydiving, and bungie jumping all the time. Also, apparantly more people have been to the moon than gone as deep as David Shaw. He died exploring the depths of an abyss into which almost no one had ever been.
@magnum chocolattee everyone is wired different, maybe when your older?
@magnum chocolattee .. For many people being bored is a fate worse than death.
My diving instructor (commercial) would say;
There are old diver, and there are bold divers. There are no old bold divers.
He was an old US Navey diver and knew his stuff.
Bob Neff was his name.
My dive master (and cousin) was friends with a diver named diver Dan who was the very definition of an old bold diver he was in his late 50s early 60s when my cousin first met him and he would fall asleep on decomp stops and do stuff that would be considered insane by less experienced divers. I pretty sure he is still alive.
@@pizzasteve5825 And still diving? I often heard stories of guys at work sleeping at the decmp station. Science studies started happening and they were surprized at guys sleeping in the Arctic waters. I didn't do it though.
I am enlisting as a Navy Diver next year👍
@@pizzasteve5825 pretty sure this is more of a lesson to choose your dives carefully and don’t overdo it rather than a serious statemnt
@@maxdavis7722 yeah I know, I was just being a smartass.
Such a well and respectful way to tell the story. Being a diver myself I cried the whole way through it especially the fumbling around. I experienced the drunk feeling at only 100ft and realized I was laughing and giggling as I was swimming with my fellow divers. I quickly went up 5ft and thank God it stopped because it had just started. Plus it was nothing like this whatsoever. Personally this is why I’m adamant no matter who what where and why you always always always have a dive buddy with you. While the same probably would’ve happened to both we will never know. This man is my hero. Heart of pure gold. Rest in peace. 💔💔💔☀️☀️☀️
Imagine this: your trying to get a dead body back a then it grabs you
Maybe it could happen like the person was just rly weak and couldn't move much and was just waiting for help and when he saw another diver he used all his energy to reach out. I think it would be possible just not for that long
Markus Lemerise
No I mean Iike it’s dead fully dead then it grabs you
Well if it's a fresh corpse that could happen I guess but a older corpse would have nothing to grab with
Bruh!😂🤣😅
I’d say Harrison Okene is an example of this(?) It was *believed* that everyone on the ship he was on was dead, until he reached out to grab the diver.
I almost find it impossible to comprehend the horror that David experienced. Imagine being disoriented and confused, and then look down, staring death itself in the eyes. I can only imagine the fear and panic that he experienced, realizing he was about to endure the same fate.
not really. The heightened narcosis and increased carbin dioxide build up would actually dull a lot of your senses
Sounds like a typical night with my ex.
"This is not your grave. But you are welcomed in it."
Halo 2
@Thomas Dawicki its grimly fitting
I feel so bad for Dion's parents. David was a record holding diver, and they weren't divers themselves, so I doubt they realized how dangerous this was for him.
He'd been to the bottom of Bushman's hole before, but going down just to set a record and then come straight back up is a lot different than trying to retrieve a body, especially one that's highly decomposed.
Its funny that the footage of a man's last momments is still capable of shocking us so much. We have been so conditioned by movies and videogames, but still seeing through a mans eyes knowing that every time that bar moves this human being is getting closer to the end is still hauntin beyond words
Because we know its real, we literally witness a man's last breath. Unlike horror movies or videogames, it felt different.
@Ayy lmao funny means ironic here
Iit's because many gamers know video games aren't real. It's just mere fantasy - not reality.
The last dive of david shaw, Excellent pick qxir.
If you havent you should check out the song by "we lost the sea". Its just called the final dive of dave shaw.
Austin Rash it’s actually called “The last dive of David Shaw”
He’s recording this at 3 am while his parents are asleep
Green gang??
Cursed Yokubo UwU gang
Cursed Yokubo yes
hello mine turtle!
@@cursedyokubo4358 green gang4eva
Im sorry but had that been my child as much as id appreciate having his remains back i would refuse to allow another person to take such a risk to recover him now a child is going to grow up deprived of having his father in his life
Apparently, the moment he sees Deon googles it was because his neck that was just mostly bones, came off as it was only held loosely by his diving kit.
The most morbid shit i have ever heard
@@pogchamp9786 or the most hilarious...
@@KenMabie how is that funny in any way?
@@KenMabie yo wtf. We are talking about floating, underwater, and untouched corpses, and that shits hilarious? Either you have some wacky tacky sense of humor or this is a dark joke im too beta to understand
@@PuppeteerGaming they had a "thirst for life" and died from drowning .. how is that not funny ... ?
I dont care how much they pay I am not getting in water with a decaying corpse
Theres decaying corpses in just about every natural body of water
@@GoldenGod69 shutup shutup shutup shutup shutup shutup shutup please shutup
@@TerminalFailSafe wisely said, but the living that emerge from the dead are very harmful.
@@cyber_rexe3519 that was really immature
@my dog ran away and got raped bruh you can't even spell immature right.
It seems safer to send a man into outer space then to dive these depths.
This probably explains why we know more about space than our oceans
@@BB-gx3hc tf? i feel like the scientific community as a whole is in agreement that we know more about space than the depths of our oceans.
@@BB-gx3hc matter observed in space > matter observed in oceans
You’re thinking about percentages, he’s thinking about total amounts. In his terms we know significantly more about space as we have taken millions of observations with telescopes and satellite flights.
@@BB-gx3hc we've seen 1% of space, but thats more than our entire ocean. Understand?
WOW! Well done! Gripped me HARD throughout the entire piece. Horrifically sad to lose such a magnificent spirit but it was done with great honor & nobility of which a soul is NEVER forgotten. Peace be upon us all -
Our cultures have a weird obsession with recovering bodies. It's completely fine and fitting for a diver to have a grave underwater.
well, we are a social species and while that is our main basis to success it also makes us unable to just leave our own dead.
@@dallasn5040 I guess. I just see it as an emotional response of the living, not really a necessity to survival. It could very well be instinct. Hell, I've seen a raccoon get hit by a car, and then several raccoons come from no where to recover the body and mourn it. So it could just be a part of our history surviving in groups. A death in a group could mean the end of the group sometimes.
@@timkimmel9935 yeah, thats what i was saying but simpler.
as social animals leaving a body of one of our own weighs on our conscious, at least for most.
Yeah, you're right.
if i die in a watery at least wait 40 years so i can scare the crap out of the next idiot to go down
Yeah, you can even see on the tablets that were resurfacing how the hand writing is badly scribbled. That there is one of the earliest signs of nitrogen narcosis taking effect, and those came from the divers a shallower (or relitively shallower) depths. So what he was feeling must have been nightmareish.
My deepest dive was to like 40m and I thought I was loosing my fucking mind. I shudder to imagine what 250+ in a cave would be like.
I wouldn't wish that mans death on my worst enemy.
Diving is a great profession/recreation but it can come with a serious cost sometimes.
Edit: 40m not 50m :)
Were you unaware or did you dive below 30m specifically to experience nitrogen narcosis or just to go as deep as you could without oxygen toxicity becoming a problem at 60m? Yeah tho it's a distressing way to go out.
Yeah, we did it as a demostration when I was getting certifided.
Basically we went down to depth (not for long mind you) and we were asked to write our full names and date of birth down when we were at that depth. The we would ascend to a shallower depth and continue our dive training. When we got back to the surface I didn't even recoginze my own handwriting, it looked like I had written it without looking or something.
As for what it felt like, that is hard to describe, the only other thing I can compare it to is luaghing gas. It's not like being drunk or anything like that. In fact I felt pretty ok, but when I got back to the surface it was wierd looking at my own sloppy handwriting, because at depth I looked at the same writing and though "yeah that looks good".
Also, side note I see in my original comment I wrote 50m I meant 40m (I'm dumb) I'll edit it.
@@thecloudpeoplearecoming399 Thanks for answering! Seems like a cool experience when you're responsible about it.
They should have used a non-air mix like heliox (if they had sufficient supply) or if it even existed back then to avoid narcosis.
I can't even begin to comprehend how difficult that must have been.
The scary thought is while your there you aren't even aware of how disoriented you are.
@@thecloudpeoplearecoming399 I've been to 45m and have not experienced anything like you described. Breathing took a little more effort because of the pressure but other than that, everything was perfectly normal and neither me, nor anyone else with me experienced any "laughing gas"-effects.
The fact that this is real just makes it more disturbing and creepy. It's like the cave is alive and wouldn't let go until someone pays the price for trespassing.
Dave Shaw was a pilot of a major airliner flying Airbuses and 747's also was a scuba diver what a interesting career.
The image of Deons goggles is even more chilling when you find out that it was his skeletal head floating in the water as it had become detached from his body. When they pulled his body out of the water his foot fell off as well. Upon removing the swimsuit Deon still had his jockey underwear on and his parents seeing the body said his legs still looked athletic and maintained shape. That's so hard for a parent to see. I can't even imagine what it must be like witnessing that.
@Mr305Maxxx there is a book about it "Raising the Dead: A True Story of Death and Survival" www.amazon.de/Raising-Dead-Story-Death-Survival/dp/0007275536/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
How did his body fall apart? How could someone's head just... float away. Good God.
@@alisonanddanlindsey lol because its been in the water for a grip
@@alisonanddanlindsey because the skull is NOT jointed to the body. It merely sets atop a sort-of 'plate' at the top of the spine. when the ligaments turn to jelly, nothing holds it in place. Which is why hanging is such an effective way to kill someone.
@@paularae6324 whoa, I never knew that the head just sat there without actually being connected to your spine
The man fulfilled his promise at the cost of his life. But was it worth it?
Sure, recovering dead body might be important to family. But we have to think rationally, both the rescuer and the family who requested for help. There's always a chance where things could go wrong and we should not forget it.
Continue living with beloved family, be a good husband and father or die retrieving dead body out of kindness and self satisfaction? It's basic human skill, to judge what's the best option for us.
He was intoxicated. Of course he wanted to survive, but couldn't.
Agreed, Dave had children, he did the because he was over confident and possibly wanted the recognition. The dead diver could have been left there, after all he was in his happy place.
Like he's literally buried in water, why would you want the bones and bury them again for no reason, people can be too sentimental about things that don't matter. You're dead and that's it, fuck you trying to get back his bones for
Hushed Desert most professionals and careful people?? Then what should astronauts say??
Ya but Americans dont think like that, they always believe that anything can be done, agaisnt all odds
Dave, you will always be remember and respected for your sacrafice, I wish you were here so we all could thank you for your efforts. No man left behind, and I honer that. Rest in peace to both divers.
Both were idiots and got what they deserved
Faked Account13221 NO MAN LEFT BEHIND! He was already dead
Ken Mabie idiots yes, deserved fuck no
Ken Mabie you’re a dickhead with no life. Quit playing video games at your age and try to do something. You’re a cat lady in male form. You’re such a piece of shit, Dave was a good man to want to give another family closure. I’m not saying you deserve anything but God works in mysterious ways.
Koby Khock wdym
I don’t know anything about Diving but all I can say is what a brave man to risk his life to bring another man up and he kept his promise I send my condolences to both families and to Dave and the other diver rest in peace
Anyone else feel chills and pure fear when they looked at the goggles too.
yeah..
No.
Time stamp?
I basically said “yeah fuck that” seeing that, haunting as fuck
I looked away, and nothing makes sick usually
He literally travelled and experienced world's furthest, world's highest and world's lowest!
RIP
I’m not entirely sure which is more lonely and horrifying.... the abyss of a body of water, or the abyss of space.
arturo smith until something possibly goes wrong 😐
arturo smith so, all those movies lied to me? 🤔🙃
@arturo smith more so talking of being marooned in one of the abysses.
For me the feeling of being trapped down in the deep is much more terrifying. It has that claustrophobic feel. Plus I'm scared of drowning. Not that asphyxiating would be much better...
@@lifegoeson1007 you'd kinda explode if you try to hold your breath.