i’m sorry but I think the title of this video and some of the points you made is ridiculous. This adult is really gate-keeping a pair of shoes. If someone is serious about running and wants to do better or improve, they have every right to get the top of the line spikes. Honestly an adult saying that high school kids aren’t “fast” enough to wear these shoes is ridiculous and frankly no one’s going to listen. You go to almost any dual meet and you’ll see almost all distance guys wearing the victory’s or dragonfly’s. It would be a lot better if this video was more of a warning about the durability and price point of the maxflys rather than saying Highschool kids aren’t good enough for them. Honestly it’s bad for the sport if you are gate-keeping a pair of shoes from everyone. Along with this, the Max-Flys and victory’s are completely different spikes meant for very different events. I’m truly don’t know why anyone would post this.
Yeah… you didn’t really get the point of the video. There is no gate keeping and never did I say the spikes were for the same event. It’s not a comparison. These are two “super spikes” no gate keeping here. The point of the video is to tell people that for the price point there is more of a risk to these spikes. An entry level runner will not see the drastic difference that these spikes can make. And often in entry level runners the stiffness of this plate will cause more injuries than it will help them to run. The title is to get people like you to watch the video. The information in the video is up to your interpretation. Great spikes but they are not meant for everyone.
@@MitchModin Im gonna be honest dude, it feels like this video was made to gatekeep a pair of shoes that anyone who runs can benefit from. i feel like the video had no point in being over 3 minutes long, and it should have been a warning for the durability instead of a “high schoolers shouldn’t wear these shoes because they aren’t smart (or elite, or good, or whatever word u prefer to use) enough to notice the difference. it feels like the video was just padded for time, when you could have gone in and said “this shoe is good, but it’s expensive and not durable so just be careful when buying and maybe have a spare set of spikes laying around” or something like that, and that would have been received much better
The elite will always see the most benefit, that’s obvious. As a younger athlete if you want to wear the best spikes you can then you should. It’s always going to push you and it honestly just makes you feel better and more motivated and excited!!
I have now broke two superflys and a maxfly. The difference is when you break the plate on the superfly (and the jafly) you can still run in them just fine because of the hex plate design: you will crack individual links in the honeycomb patern so yhe become less stiff, but they are still flat. In the maxfly when you pop a air pod, because there are two pods on each spike, the shoe becomes unbalanced and collapses at contact, leaning either outward or inward depending on the pod you popped. As for what happens when you break one of the plates on the maxfly, it is more noticable than the superfly because it makes noise and will probably break in a more structurally problematic way because both the carbon fiber plate and the outer plate are contiguous, flat plates. (If you buy a maxfly I would recommend trying to not use the farther out than 8 block workouts, 5 premeets, and 5 meets out from your championship to be on the safe side. Mine began failing and then popped at ~26 and 30 days usage respectively. Popped day before national finals 🤦♂️).
I personally wear the maxfly because I have some joint problems. Long sprints and hurdles destroy my ankles and I haven't had that pain since I've worn them
@@dionputaski they're super durable, I've used them for a year and have had no problems. Practice is good, I feel like they help minimize shin splint problems. They're on the heavy side, so sprinting wouldn't be ideal. But not impossible or anything
@@yeet76231 Awesome. So pop ups and run throughs like 1-2 times a week on top of practice would not ruin them? I am tempted to purchase, but don’t want them to fall apart after using them often.
If it was my first year doing track I would not buy them, but if im going into my last 3 seasons of high-school why not, and a lot of highschooler are really fast
Is this a sprinters review? as a distance guy, i am not gonna buy a maxfly to run a mile. i have the Dragonfly’s and Victory and enjoy them both very much. I believe that if you can afford to buy new spikes every year, and you want to PR this season, you gotta get the Vic’s or the Dragonfly’s if you wish to be in the competition. it gives you that competitive edge. Plus, if you have the super spikes, your most likely to use them more, meaning your most likely gonna get lots of fast reps in them, meaning you’ll get better over time. Just do it
No this isn’t a comparison, this is simply an unboxing. And coming from a professional runner unless you are elite enough to notice a difference in track surface or spike plate material there will be no advantage to these shoes. The money to advantage ratio for some athletes will be way to large.
@@MitchModin I disagree, i think you don’t need to be a pro to enjoy the benefits of a snappier more responsive shoe, in comparison to older spikes which were intended only for being light and having good traction. i respect your opinion though, however i must disagree.
You don’t have to be pro to wear these super spikes but you have to be someone who’s experienced in track and field and whose learned how to run/sprint properly. Kids can’t just buy the spikes and expect to run prs every meet without knowing the proper running mechanics/ techniques, and since it’s a different type of technology if you don’t know how to run there is the risk of injury and waste of money. I think the point of this video is saying that the people who should buy these super spikes are people who have been running track for numerous years and have been working on their craft, not just for casual who don’t devote their time to track.
I’ve raced in all of these before. My teammate is currently using my maxflys since he’s a sprinter and I’m not lol (he ran 47.8 last year for 400), but I like them all. I’m a 4:20ish miler(at 4646ft) rn. Haven’t raced yet this year, but that’s my current fitness I’d say. I think anyone who runs 4:30-5:00 for a mile should wear the dragonflys for everything 800-5k. 1:58 800- 4:29 mile and faster I would say the victorys are a good choice. The problem for distance guys is, you need a new trainer every month and a half and need like 4 different types of racing shoes that you have to replace every season(4 seasons a year. Xc-off-track-off). In order to perform well enough to make D1 for distance you have to be willing to spend well over $1,000 a year in shoes. I spend like $2,000 because I let my teammates wear my shoes also. It’s ridiculous. I recommend getting one shoe that can do most workouts (streakfly/next% for me), one spike (dragonfly), and two trainers(endorphin speed 2, novablast 2). Idk anything about sprints, but that’s the distance rundown. I can say though the difference between winning some races and being the best in distance is the shoes. It’s less of an impact in high school sprints, but in distance it’s basically required to have them.
Eh the air zoom victories kinda lost their use, id still use a dragonfly in the mile no matter what speed, and for the 800 id say if your sub 2 you should be using maxflys
@@icushfu732 that’s true. I think it takes a specific footstrike, but if you’re forefoot/toe prominently, the victorys are good for the mile. Dragonflys are the goats though
Longevity definitely is an issue with this newer technology in these spikes, but I feel Nike is capable of making them more durable. It would be great to normalize their zoom bubbles in track spikes, just like how almost every Nike basketball shoe has zoom bubbles in them.
i run a 47.3 in the 400m and i think everyone should buy the spikes they want super spikes or normal spikes, the spikes your friend popped were max fly prototypes and i don’t think the commercial pair pops i’ve had mine for a while but i also have 2 pairs and a bombproof pair in my bag
@@jordanlake9178 have a race plan and look up whatever Michael Johnson has to say in running the 400. Work on your hamstrings in the gym and do lactic acid training
Wore the maxflys my sophomore year running a 51 in the 400, didn't notice much of a difference from my previous spikes so I transitioned to the sp2s this year, however when they broke I decided to try the maxflys again as I had dropped my 400 time down to a 48 in the sp2s. Now I am able to feel a much more significant difference in the maxflys both in energy return and my ability to generate power. Based off of this I would say that it would start to become worth your money to buy maxflys, when you dip below 50, maybe even 49 in the 400, but I cant say for sure. I still think that if people want to get a pair of maxflys and are willing to spend 200 bucks on some even if they may not be strong or fast enough to fully benefit from them then let them, do what gets you excited and motivated to improve.
after 1 year and a half I popped all 4 cushions and cracked both carbon fiber insole plates of my maxflys 😂 (no I am not a pro and my times are not good even for like third division in American College Circuit… but yes, I am physically strong)
Hello, I have a question as an inexperienced person to a professional. I plan to study sports education starting this year and still need a shoe: 1. for the sports aptitude test (100m sprint and 3000m run) and 2. thereafter for the athletics semester. I am still undecided whether to buy spikes (I tend to think about the “Puma Evospeed Distance Nitro Elite+ 2” or the “Puma evoSPEED Star 8”) or rather a regular running shoe and use my indoor shoes for the sprint. I would greatly appreciate a response.
Just let people wear some fucking shoes. If people want to wear the best of the best, let them. It’s not money out your pocket when they break. You could have said “they aren’t very durable and are expensive, so take that into account when purchasing” or you could have said, “at a high school level you may not notice the differences” You not some who needs to care, if you wanna have this talk with your kids than go ahead.
I think this title seems a little misleading, but I totally understand what you’re trying to get at here. I’m currently going into my sophomore year in hs, and I run 2:11 in the 800 and 56 in the 400, and I am using a cheap pair of spikes. I’m thinking of slowly upgrading my spikes as I go along, and times getting better, to give me better and steadier improvements.
U gonna get victories or max flys? I’m also going into my sophomore year after 2:05 in the 800 and 52 in the 400 idk if I should’ve gotten max flys instead but I got the victories cause they were on sale for less than $100
Mine broke in 2 weeks so I got a refund and ordered superfly elite 2s. You don’t want a spike that could potentially break at any time like what if they broke between heats and finals.
The title is absolutely wrong. To start off are they durable no however if you are going to commit to track get whatever spikes you want however with both of these spikes get a basic pair that is reliable before these. At the end of the day they are spikes there is no professional kind of spikes unless personally made by a professional meant for professionals. These are not durable however if you are using these for a couple sprints in practice and races these are great. PRICEY THO I do not suggest to be wearing after you have already qualified for Nationals and certain events unless you're trying a couple sprints in them.
I feel that it’s great that you have in opinion, but you should stop categorizing high school athletes as “elite” or “amateur.” If they want to get the spikes then they should damn well be able to. Listening to some clown on UA-cam telling you that you aren’t good enough is not necessarily my idea of inspiration.
Hi. I have the zoom fly 4's in size 9,5 , and like in any shoe I guess, there is about half an inch of free space between my toes and the end of the shoe. Should I buy the victories in size 9,5 o go half a size down maybe?
its very obvious when they popped, the air pocket would be completly flat and would look very different compared to your other spike. With that being said, you wont notice too much of a difference while running
When mine popped I felt it right away because there are two separate pods in each shoe, so when mine popped it was the inside pod on the outside shoe, so the whole spike was leaning in and it was very obvious and made the shoe impoasible to run in.
Hi, I’m a freshmen sprinter going to be a sophomore and was curious if I should buy these spikes for only races and nothing else, would you recommend that?
Sophomore in high school or college? If college then yes. If high school then no unless you’re one of the top in the nation you’re probably not running fast enough for the shoe you are wearing to really help you. Unless you just wanna drop 180 on some shoes
Yes. If you only race in spikes and train in shoes like many good programs require, Than everything he said doesn’t matter. If you wear them only racing then go ahead and buy em.
2 of my highschools sprinters have the victory spike. They are definitely not elite though. I'm in 7th grade with a pair of rival s's and I run faster.
i’m sorry but I think the title of this video and some of the points you made is ridiculous. This adult is really gate-keeping a pair of shoes. If someone is serious about running and wants to do better or improve, they have every right to get the top of the line spikes. Honestly an adult saying that high school kids aren’t “fast” enough to wear these shoes is ridiculous and frankly no one’s going to listen. You go to almost any dual meet and you’ll see almost all distance guys wearing the victory’s or dragonfly’s. It would be a lot better if this video was more of a warning about the durability and price point of the maxflys rather than saying Highschool kids aren’t good enough for them. Honestly it’s bad for the sport if you are gate-keeping a pair of shoes from everyone. Along with this, the Max-Flys and victory’s are completely different spikes meant for very different events. I’m truly don’t know why anyone would post this.
Yeah… you didn’t really get the point of the video. There is no gate keeping and never did I say the spikes were for the same event. It’s not a comparison. These are two “super spikes” no gate keeping here. The point of the video is to tell people that for the price point there is more of a risk to these spikes. An entry level runner will not see the drastic difference that these spikes can make. And often in entry level runners the stiffness of this plate will cause more injuries than it will help them to run. The title is to get people like you to watch the video. The information in the video is up to your interpretation. Great spikes but they are not meant for everyone.
Fair, but no beginner is going to drop more money than they have to. And if they’re rich and got money to burn than it’s on them
@@MitchModin Im gonna be honest dude, it feels like this video was made to gatekeep a pair of shoes that anyone who runs can benefit from. i feel like the video had no point in being over 3 minutes long, and it should have been a warning for the durability instead of a “high schoolers shouldn’t wear these shoes because they aren’t smart (or elite, or good, or whatever word u prefer to use) enough to notice the difference. it feels like the video was just padded for time, when you could have gone in and said “this shoe is good, but it’s expensive and not durable so just be careful when buying and maybe have a spare set of spikes laying around” or something like that, and that would have been received much better
@@joey.h14 lol
sounds like ur not elite
The elite will always see the most benefit, that’s obvious. As a younger athlete if you want to wear the best spikes you can then you should. It’s always going to push you and it honestly just makes you feel better and more motivated and excited!!
I have now broke two superflys and a maxfly. The difference is when you break the plate on the superfly (and the jafly) you can still run in them just fine because of the hex plate design: you will crack individual links in the honeycomb patern so yhe become less stiff, but they are still flat. In the maxfly when you pop a air pod, because there are two pods on each spike, the shoe becomes unbalanced and collapses at contact, leaning either outward or inward depending on the pod you popped. As for what happens when you break one of the plates on the maxfly, it is more noticable than the superfly because it makes noise and will probably break in a more structurally problematic way because both the carbon fiber plate and the outer plate are contiguous, flat plates.
(If you buy a maxfly I would recommend trying to not use the farther out than 8 block workouts, 5 premeets, and 5 meets out from your championship to be on the safe side. Mine began failing and then popped at ~26 and 30 days usage respectively. Popped day before national finals 🤦♂️).
bruh must be pain
I personally wear the maxfly because I have some joint problems. Long sprints and hurdles destroy my ankles and I haven't had that pain since I've worn them
That’s great info! I’ll put that in the review for sure!!
@@MitchModin the long jump elite gives my joints the same levity, in both long jump and pole vault
@@yeet76231 Do the long jump elites pop, and are they good to practice in? Or sprint in aswell?
@@dionputaski they're super durable, I've used them for a year and have had no problems. Practice is good, I feel like they help minimize shin splint problems. They're on the heavy side, so sprinting wouldn't be ideal. But not impossible or anything
@@yeet76231 Awesome. So pop ups and run throughs like 1-2 times a week on top of practice would not ruin them? I am tempted to purchase, but don’t want them to fall apart after using them often.
If it was my first year doing track I would not buy them, but if im going into my last 3 seasons of high-school why not, and a lot of highschooler are really fast
Is this a sprinters review? as a distance guy, i am not gonna buy a maxfly to run a mile. i have the Dragonfly’s and Victory and enjoy them both very much. I believe that if you can afford to buy new spikes every year, and you want to PR this season, you gotta get the Vic’s or the Dragonfly’s if you wish to be in the competition. it gives you that competitive edge. Plus, if you have the super spikes, your most likely to use them more, meaning your most likely gonna get lots of fast reps in them, meaning you’ll get better over time. Just do it
No this isn’t a comparison, this is simply an unboxing. And coming from a professional runner unless you are elite enough to notice a difference in track surface or spike plate material there will be no advantage to these shoes. The money to advantage ratio for some athletes will be way to large.
So the vic can be use for sprinting
@@chriscollins6954 400m you could probably get away with. Nothing much shorter
@@MitchModin I disagree, i think you don’t need to be a pro to enjoy the benefits of a snappier more responsive shoe, in comparison to older spikes which were intended only for being light and having good traction. i respect your opinion though, however i must disagree.
You don’t have to be pro to wear these super spikes but you have to be someone who’s experienced in track and field and whose learned how to run/sprint properly. Kids can’t just buy the spikes and expect to run prs every meet without knowing the proper running mechanics/ techniques, and since it’s a different type of technology if you don’t know how to run there is the risk of injury and waste of money. I think the point of this video is saying that the people who should buy these super spikes are people who have been running track for numerous years and have been working on their craft, not just for casual who don’t devote their time to track.
I’ve raced in all of these before. My teammate is currently using my maxflys since he’s a sprinter and I’m not lol (he ran 47.8 last year for 400), but I like them all. I’m a 4:20ish miler(at 4646ft) rn. Haven’t raced yet this year, but that’s my current fitness I’d say. I think anyone who runs 4:30-5:00 for a mile should wear the dragonflys for everything 800-5k. 1:58 800- 4:29 mile and faster I would say the victorys are a good choice. The problem for distance guys is, you need a new trainer every month and a half and need like 4 different types of racing shoes that you have to replace every season(4 seasons a year. Xc-off-track-off). In order to perform well enough to make D1 for distance you have to be willing to spend well over $1,000 a year in shoes. I spend like $2,000 because I let my teammates wear my shoes also. It’s ridiculous. I recommend getting one shoe that can do most workouts (streakfly/next% for me), one spike (dragonfly), and two trainers(endorphin speed 2, novablast 2). Idk anything about sprints, but that’s the distance rundown. I can say though the difference between winning some races and being the best in distance is the shoes. It’s less of an impact in high school sprints, but in distance it’s basically required to have them.
This is an awesome comment with legit knowledge of them and with som actual data! Love it! Thanks!
Eh the air zoom victories kinda lost their use, id still use a dragonfly in the mile no matter what speed, and for the 800 id say if your sub 2 you should be using maxflys
@@icushfu732 that’s true. I think it takes a specific footstrike, but if you’re forefoot/toe prominently, the victorys are good for the mile. Dragonflys are the goats though
Nice I went 48.9 in pumas maybe I should switch to Nike for my senior year of college track🤔
my shoes last way more than a month and a half y'all doing 100+ mile weeks only or something?
Longevity definitely is an issue with this newer technology in these spikes, but I feel Nike is capable of making them more durable. It would be great to normalize their zoom bubbles in track spikes, just like how almost every Nike basketball shoe has zoom bubbles in them.
i run a 47.3 in the 400m and i think everyone should buy the spikes they want super spikes or normal spikes, the spikes your friend popped were max fly prototypes and i don’t think the commercial pair pops i’ve had mine for a while but i also have 2 pairs and a bombproof pair in my bag
Shoot help me out I run a 53😭
Tips for 400m
@@jordanlake9178 have a race plan and look up whatever Michael Johnson has to say in running the 400. Work on your hamstrings in the gym and do lactic acid training
@@nefarious8278 yeah noticed my hamstring aren’t as strong as my other muscles also my time now is 56(freshman) and just keep on wanting to improve
Would you say it’s smarter to have a pair of spikes to train in and then save your maxflys for competition at your meets only.
Yes but still do some training in the max fly so that you can get used to the feeling.
Wore the maxflys my sophomore year running a 51 in the 400, didn't notice much of a difference from my previous spikes so I transitioned to the sp2s this year, however when they broke I decided to try the maxflys again as I had dropped my 400 time down to a 48 in the sp2s. Now I am able to feel a much more significant difference in the maxflys both in energy return and my ability to generate power. Based off of this I would say that it would start to become worth your money to buy maxflys, when you dip below 50, maybe even 49 in the 400, but I cant say for sure. I still think that if people want to get a pair of maxflys and are willing to spend 200 bucks on some even if they may not be strong or fast enough to fully benefit from them then let them, do what gets you excited and motivated to improve.
Wow that was something. Still trying to get those minutes of my life back.
Can u wear the victory in a 400
no way for me to get those minutes back of my life but i’ve wasted others minutes too. that was something else
Do you think I could use the zoom victory (first pair) for sprinting I accidentally got the wrong ones 😭
I guess you could, but it wont be optimal
Do you wear socks with the maxfly?
after 1 year and a half I popped all 4 cushions and cracked both carbon fiber insole plates of my maxflys 😂
(no I am not a pro and my times are not good even for like third division in American College Circuit… but yes, I am physically strong)
Hello, I have a question as an inexperienced person to a professional. I plan to study sports education starting this year and still need a shoe: 1. for the sports aptitude test (100m sprint and 3000m run) and 2. thereafter for the athletics semester. I am still undecided whether to buy spikes (I tend to think about the “Puma Evospeed Distance Nitro Elite+ 2” or the “Puma evoSPEED Star 8”) or rather a regular running shoe and use my indoor shoes for the sprint. I would greatly appreciate a response.
Sorry bro didn’t realize you were in charge 😂😂😂 gonna buy whatever I want cause I like running and I want to get better 💀
I mean I ran sub 11 for the 100 as a sophomore, im prob going to run near 10.6 next season so should I buy these?
Bro these not for the 100😭😭😭
buy max flys for sure
Just let people wear some fucking shoes. If people want to wear the best of the best, let them. It’s not money out your pocket when they break. You could have said “they aren’t very durable and are expensive, so take that into account when purchasing” or you could have said, “at a high school level you may not notice the differences”
You not some who needs to care, if you wanna have this talk with your kids than go ahead.
I think this title seems a little misleading, but I totally understand what you’re trying to get at here. I’m currently going into my sophomore year in hs, and I run 2:11 in the 800 and 56 in the 400, and I am using a cheap pair of spikes. I’m thinking of slowly upgrading my spikes as I go along, and times getting better, to give me better and steadier improvements.
U gonna get victories or max flys? I’m also going into my sophomore year after 2:05 in the 800 and 52 in the 400 idk if I should’ve gotten max flys instead but I got the victories cause they were on sale for less than $100
Good to see you back, hope you are happy and well. Did you have the surgery , elbow if I remember
Why would anybody buy these then if they don’t last long, especially if you want to sprint & jog in these?
Mine broke in 2 weeks so I got a refund and ordered superfly elite 2s. You don’t want a spike that could potentially break at any time like what if they broke between heats and finals.
The title is absolutely wrong. To start off are they durable no however if you are going to commit to track get whatever spikes you want however with both of these spikes get a basic pair that is reliable before these. At the end of the day they are spikes there is no professional kind of spikes unless personally made by a professional meant for professionals. These are not durable however if you are using these for a couple sprints in practice and races these are great. PRICEY THO I do not suggest to be wearing after you have already qualified for Nationals and certain events unless you're trying a couple sprints in them.
Is a sub 5 mile fast enough?
Nice video. If i wear 45 in Superfly Elite do i go 45 also in Maxfly?
I don’t know any size over 11.5 but yes I would assume so!
I feel that it’s great that you have in opinion, but you should stop categorizing high school athletes as “elite” or “amateur.” If they want to get the spikes then they should damn well be able to. Listening to some clown on UA-cam telling you that you aren’t good enough is not necessarily my idea of inspiration.
What are good shoes for high schoolers doing sprints and hurdles?
Superfly elite 2!
Hi. I have the zoom fly 4's in size 9,5 , and like in any shoe I guess, there is about half an inch of free space between my toes and the end of the shoe. Should I buy the victories in size 9,5 o go half a size down maybe?
Go down, you want spikes to be really snug around the foot
I have zoom fly 4s in size 8 and bought victories In 8.5, how was it for you
This is such a bad take💀 you do not know what you’re talkin about
Thanks for clarifying ❤
Put maxfly’s on twice until the plastic plate broke
howd you know if the bubbles popped? just wanna make sure mine haven't lol
its very obvious when they popped, the air pocket would be completly flat and would look very different compared to your other spike. With that being said, you wont notice too much of a difference while running
@@samlipper3803 ok cool, cause ive been using mine a lot recently, but they haven't popped. they do feel less springy then when i first got them tho
When mine popped I felt it right away because there are two separate pods in each shoe, so when mine popped it was the inside pod on the outside shoe, so the whole spike was leaning in and it was very obvious and made the shoe impoasible to run in.
@@SA1upsb Yeah same, i told them and ill get my money back
devon sent me that pair of black spikes signed i’m pretty sure 😭
Hi, I’m a freshmen sprinter going to be a sophomore and was curious if I should buy these spikes for only races and nothing else, would you recommend that?
definitely put some work into them at practice to get used to them but don’t wear them down.
Sophomore in high school or college? If college then yes. If high school then no unless you’re one of the top in the nation you’re probably not running fast enough for the shoe you are wearing to really help you. Unless you just wanna drop 180 on some shoes
@@trysten6277 sophomore in highschool yes, and thank you
Yes. If you only race in spikes and train in shoes like many good programs require, Than everything he said doesn’t matter. If you wear them only racing then go ahead and buy em.
Im simple don’t wear them if your new to running
Just don't buy any AIR shoes, they will broke before you retire them 30% of the times!
Do the adidas adizero plz
I’ve done a quick comparison a few months ago!
what were the last pair of spikes called?
Nike superfly elites
2 of my highschools sprinters have the victory spike. They are definitely not elite though. I'm in 7th grade with a pair of rival s's and I run faster.
What are your events and times?
@@elijahwharton2580 my 100 is 12.75 my 200 is a 26.7 and my 400 is a 1:01.10
@@jackhaber3321 those times are solid
@@elijahwharton2580 thank you
@@elijahwharton2580 updated times: 12.59, 26.25, 1:00.8
Glad you decided to not go shirtless being this is geared towards high school kids. Weird way to start the video