The Painful Reality Of Reviewing The Twelve 36

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  • Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
  • In such an unpredictable world, it's hard to keep a positive outlook. Even when looking at situations from different perspectives, we can still see how closely related we all are.
    The Twelve 36 from Christopher Ward takes on the trend of smaller-sized watches that’s widening the audience from men to unisex. How does it compare to the top sports watch in the affordable market? You know, Tissot’s PRX.
    #micro #tissot #prx #luxury #bulova

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  • @TheJubJubb
    @TheJubJubb 6 місяців тому +7

    wow, your editing is not only flawless but also highly creative and clever. first time on your channel and I've subscribed immediately! not to mention the fantastic and thorough review, thanks!

    • @TheJubJubb
      @TheJubJubb 6 місяців тому +1

      also, during your time with the watch, did you find the face of the watch sliding away from you often like at 6:25? that is something that bothers me personally in a watch, and it would be an important point of consideration for me if I were shopping for the Twelve

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  6 місяців тому

      It will be an issue if you don’t size it tightly. Because the links are a bit wider so it has more room to slide. There are half links for these though. Those will help greatly.

  • @sviatoslavkuvichinskii3848
    @sviatoslavkuvichinskii3848 10 місяців тому +11

    Some incredible editing work! Well done!

  • @VOByRobbins
    @VOByRobbins 3 місяці тому +2

    Your reviews are great, and your mad editing skills make you look like a magician! love the transition at the end going from screen to ipad!! brilliant and effortless! the watch looks great on your wrist, hope you're able to get one for yourself! Cheers and thank you!

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  3 місяці тому +1

      I’ll be owning one for sure! I’ll have to just sit down and weed through all these watches.

  • @AQBPlays
    @AQBPlays 10 місяців тому +2

    Jayson, once again the editing is top tier and I just wanted to add your personality is an absolute delight.

    • @jaysterling26
      @jaysterling26 9 місяців тому

      I was going to admonish you for misspelling the name ( it's kinda personal).How wrong would I have been.

    • @AQBPlays
      @AQBPlays 9 місяців тому

      🤪@@jaysterling26

  • @private464
    @private464 10 місяців тому +6

    I'm thinking of getting the 40mm royal Nordic blue Twelve. But the price IS a real deterrent...especially since real price delivered is probably more like $1450 or $1500.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +2

      It’s a big wall to climb that price. But once it’s yours it’s real keeper.

    • @hunderskunder2596
      @hunderskunder2596 9 місяців тому

      Just get the prx. More refined. Less confused. Higher power reserve and comes from a legacy brand.

    • @hunderskunder2596
      @hunderskunder2596 9 місяців тому

      Oh and half the price even for the automatic

    • @sviatoslavnovosiadlyi611
      @sviatoslavnovosiadlyi611 6 місяців тому

      The problem I had with CW was border customs fee. DHL held it until I pay around 80$.

  • @imwhatsnew
    @imwhatsnew 9 місяців тому +2

    Just discovered this channel and I love it ! Thats quite some effort for the broll.. and you're fun to listen to also. Subbed !

  • @adwyn
    @adwyn 10 місяців тому +2

    Saw a video commenting about CW Twelve 36mm bracelet being tapered too thin at 16mm towards to clasp.
    I watched that video and felt like it should taper to 18mm. 16mm kinda thin, abit feminine.
    Appreciate your thoughts and opinion about that.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +1

      Taper Matters For The Tissot PRX and Christopher Ward 12 36MM #prx #tissot #microbrand

  • @robocopvn
    @robocopvn 10 місяців тому +2

    the only thing of the twelve 36mm doesn't work for me is the dial color. I find none of the 4 colors fits me :(. What a pity !

    • @robocopvn
      @robocopvn 10 місяців тому +1

      And I love your video animations & effects! Keep it up!

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому

      That’s cool. For sure they’ll come up with more. But this one works for me personally

  • @rohanrohilla1080
    @rohanrohilla1080 10 місяців тому +2

    I am curious about how comfortable the butterfly clasp is!

    • @matthewnguyen161
      @matthewnguyen161 10 місяців тому +2

      As a previous tissot prx chronograph owner who felt discomfort with the prx bracelet within an hour of wearing it, I have loved the CW Twelve bracelet so much more. All day comfort. Happily paying the extra money for that, the smoother 4 hz sweep, and the finishing.

  • @nizarmurar
    @nizarmurar 10 місяців тому +1

    Dear Jason
    Many thanks for the great unbiased episode as always. You are so professional.
    Jason,I am missing new releases from Venezianico. Any news ? I heard about new collaboration with Venice Yacht club ans new Chronograph with NE 88 movement which is ,as far I understand is Valjoux 7750 killer , and and also Selita 500 beater.
    My great boss of pirates, can you update us ?
    With love and appreciation ❤
    Nizar Israel

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому

      Hello my dear Nizar. I may miss that yacht club version. But I am going to be reviewing the new chrono! Excited for that.

  • @Tangylives
    @Tangylives 9 місяців тому +1

    Both versions of the Twelve in steel or Ti really should have a hardness coating. No hardness coating (especially on the Ti) is what caused me to skip it in the end.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  9 місяців тому

      The Value of Hardness Coating on Watches: A Look at the Zelos Aurora

    • @SuperPussyFinger
      @SuperPussyFinger 8 місяців тому

      I couldn’t agree more. I’m sick of blithely accepting the inevitability of scratches, especially for the price of admission.

  • @grahamwallace
    @grahamwallace 10 місяців тому +2

    It’s a looker! Looks great on your wrist too. Surprised you like the fit when you were not as keen on the smaller PRX. 🏴‍☠️

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +3

      It’s the proportions that make it better than the PRX.

  • @thereissomecoolstuff
    @thereissomecoolstuff 10 місяців тому +5

    That’s a good review. I agree their watches are high priced. I’m a $600 watch buyer a couple of times a year. The dial is very detailed. Lots of choices out there. Thanks

  • @bogrot69
    @bogrot69 10 місяців тому +2

    It's really a beautiful looking watch. Sorry you have to send it back. Not sure I could find the strength 😁As the owner of a CW timepiece I can attest to the quality for sure.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +1

      I think I’ll own this one day. I’ll just need to move funds around.

  • @lupodisol
    @lupodisol 10 місяців тому +4

    This guy is a hilarious presenter the Asian version o the English presenter on watch time.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +2

      Hopefully hilarious in a good way.

  • @bandejaum
    @bandejaum 10 місяців тому +1

    This ist the first time I am checking your channel (you poped up on my feed). I have to say: great text. Great transitions (with all the effects). BUT! The first 6 minutes are painful to watch: Your lighting ist very difficult and unpleasant. You have a lot of hard light and shadows on your set that became distracting and make the video very hard to look. To make a soft light you just need a blanket sheet do difuse it. And bounce some light on the ceiling. Nothing fancy. This gonna improve your video quality enourmously.
    I wish you succes in your futur videos. By the way, i have subscribed because of your content.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому

      Thank you. Yes I need soft lighting. Honestly I was just a bit too lazy to setup my set sometimes. Thanks for the advice.

  • @bjoernaltmann
    @bjoernaltmann 3 місяці тому

    The size of the watch in numbers does not tell the whole story. It’s the bezel to dial ratio that makes the design. A 34mm Rolex OP from the 70s looks very different to an OP34 from today.

  • @benjaminvis
    @benjaminvis 10 місяців тому +1

    Great review and comparison. It is very clear to me that the difference is refinement in finishing as well as effort in simoky more interesting and intricate details. That said, I did spot various finishing imperfections in the macro shot that I wasnt expecting. Some may be from this beinf a handed-down review unit, especially where the bracelet and lugs are concerned, but I wasnt expecting it on the hand stack and logo, for example. That gives some reason for pause, as it seems to be worse on some examples than others, collating various Twelve reviews and executions. I guess you'd be hard pressed to notice without a macro lens though, and generally that is the measure I live by, considering I never take a macrolens to admire my watch on wrist. It's nice you got this coloir variant. I think, on the whole, it has my preference in their current line up, but I'd appreciate more options. Still, I'm not sure if I like the Twrlve sufficiently to pursue this as an integrated bracelet watch for me. There is bewildering choice, cheaper and more expensive, but also simply more characterful, perhaps even more balanced on the whole. The Straum Jan Mayen comes to mind. But that doesn't help a poor pirate with slender wrists. Both because it's more expensive and because it's bigger. In your wrist, the 36mm Twelve could still be described as beefy, thus lot's of presence. Does it suit you? Without a doubt!

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому

      I think you hit it on the head there. I lack the equipment (macro lens) to fully display the details but these imperfections are not just found here but in many entry level Swiss brands. I’m ok with that. It’s still amazing to look at.

  • @rayray..3349
    @rayray..3349 10 місяців тому +1

    Had My Glasses OFF, Thought it was a Tossit PRX..!🏴‍☠🏴‍☠🏴‍☠LOVE that Bulova ❣🙏Mr Saleendriver 😎🏴‍☠

  • @clintonshiells3095
    @clintonshiells3095 9 місяців тому

    Great review. Only wish you could have shown both the 36 and 40 to get a sense of how they wear on the wrist.

  • @raydare2002
    @raydare2002 7 місяців тому +1

    damn this guy based asf right off the bat... love it!

  • @eskamobob8662
    @eskamobob8662 Місяць тому

    Rofl. Wtf is with that opening

  • @RandallSlick
    @RandallSlick 10 місяців тому +1

    Great review. The CW's hideous enough to be sold for $40k. Now to the important question. Do you have Taylor Swift tickets for sale?

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +1

      I would rather walk the plank than be caught watching even a trailer for that concert tour.

    • @RandallSlick
      @RandallSlick 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DesignAtelier Sir, you are clearly a philistine but may the gods be with you. Great vids BTW. Keep up the top grade work.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +1

      @@RandallSlick I see what you did there

  • @kellyoneal1675
    @kellyoneal1675 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for a great channel.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +1

      Hope you stay along for the ride.

  • @saleendriver
    @saleendriver 10 місяців тому +1

    This and the PRX are fine watches, with a nice nod to the 70s style. Just too small for this pirate's wrist.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому

      Thanks for the Bulova too, sir. Helped out in the video.

    • @saleendriver
      @saleendriver 10 місяців тому

      @@DesignAtelier glad that piece found its forever home. 34mm is really really too small. I'm glad it works for you and helped out on this video. Looking forward to the video on that watch someday.

  • @seantran9809
    @seantran9809 9 місяців тому +1

    great review. thank you.

  • @wdou451
    @wdou451 10 місяців тому +1

    if you sell your old prx, you will bring this CW watch down to a prx price.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +1

      Stop making sense!!!!! I want both.

  • @robertlittlehawk7713
    @robertlittlehawk7713 10 місяців тому +1

    The look is pretty nice. The finish is good, but the price is a bit tight and I really detest butterfly clasps.

  • @stevemoreno6241
    @stevemoreno6241 10 місяців тому +1

    It's definitely a compelling option for fans of integrated watches or fans of the Genta design language. Personally, I'm not a fan of this style, and the size is too small for my taste.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому

      I think that’s the best word. Compelling.

  • @hunderskunder2596
    @hunderskunder2596 9 місяців тому +3

    “The name Christopher ward comes together more naturally than Tissot 1853”… what does this even mean?

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  9 місяців тому +2

      Why CW Is Better Than The PRX #microbrand #tissot #prx

  • @johnnie5442
    @johnnie5442 9 місяців тому

    From what I understand Tissot PRX is a lower quality watch, including the movement. In quartz versions, PRXs se ond hand often doesn't even align with markers.

    • @ApurtureSci
      @ApurtureSci 9 місяців тому

      That isn't really an indication of quality, I've seen extremely expensive quartz watches that don't hit the markers. It's still fair to say that the PRX is lower quality overall, but with the quartz being 1/3 the price of a Twelve, that's to be expected and actually represents fantastic value.

    • @johnnie5442
      @johnnie5442 9 місяців тому

      @@ApurtureSci perhaps... but hands no hitting the markers to me is super annoying. Or when you set perfect time, using an atomic clock app, and then the minute hand does not align with the markers while the second hand does - on a mechanical valjoux 7750 that I have - also unacceptable. I mean, they're supposed to be a fine instrument, not a mere accessory

  • @chrishennemeyer7276
    @chrishennemeyer7276 10 місяців тому +1

    Gorgeous, top quality watch (I have the green lichen version) and indeed far superior to the PRX which I also owned. But the spring bars built into the case are a major pain in the rear. Requires the patience of Job to remove and replace the bracelet.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому

      Actually I found the PRX springbar harder to remove.

  • @juniorjohnson5961
    @juniorjohnson5961 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm cheap id go for the Tissot.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому

      II have 2 already. I need to save up

  • @tiffer67
    @tiffer67 9 місяців тому

    The CW knocks the PRX out the park but I would put the Tissot dial in the Twelve case & that would be perfection for me :)

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  9 місяців тому +1

      If CW Used The Tissot PRX Dial

    • @tiffer67
      @tiffer67 9 місяців тому

      @@DesignAtelier Love it! It's just a matter of colour preference, not the quality of the dials. CW's dial is of a higher quality in it's finishing.

    • @hunderskunder2596
      @hunderskunder2596 9 місяців тому

      The prx is half the price, double the power reserve, and looks better and not like chatgpt designed the watch. Besides finishing, how exactly has it been “knocked out of the park?”

    • @tiffer67
      @tiffer67 9 місяців тому +1

      @@hunderskunder2596 “Apart from the finishing” I’m pretty sure you have answered your own question before you’ve asked it. Finishing is everything when referencing quality. Price & power reserve are irrelevant to why I think the CW is better quality.
      Your opinion that the PRX looks better, great. Many others will prefer the Twelve.
      I have the PRX blue dial & I have the Arctic White 40mm Twelve. Hold them in your hand, put them on your wrist & there’s only one winner & that’s why it’s more expensive.

    • @hunderskunder2596
      @hunderskunder2596 9 місяців тому

      To me, the CW screams "look at me, how much finishing tricks I can use to justify the price increase"...just because you can, doesn't mean you should. It's far too busy and not cohesive. I guarantee in 10 to 20 years the twelve will not age as gracefully as the PRX. This is already partly true as the PRX is a 50 year old design and looks just as great today, as it did in the 70s. The bracelet facets of the twelve, the awkward and sudden taper, the twelve sided bezel and strange logo just will not age as well as the PRX. Good for you if you enjoy it, and at the end of the day that's all that matters. These are just my thoughts@@tiffer67

  • @PheasantPluckersMate
    @PheasantPluckersMate 10 місяців тому

    I hope CW gift you one, Jayson!

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +1

      Should Christopher Ward Give Me a Free Watch? #prx #tissot #swiss

  • @Super3xtr4
    @Super3xtr4 10 місяців тому +4

    I am sure Christopher Ward loves that you talk like that about trans people.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +1

      What about it?

    • @Super3xtr4
      @Super3xtr4 10 місяців тому +2

      @@DesignAtelier respect other humans if you want to be respected.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +1

      @@Super3xtr4 what’s disrespectful with what I said?

    • @Super3xtr4
      @Super3xtr4 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@DesignAtelier "As I reflect through the weekend I see grown men declaring themselves as women, ...(war etc.)..., it's a mad mad world we are living in right now" implying its madness that people live as trans?

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +11

      @@Super3xtr4 men “declaring” themselves women does not automatically encompass trans people. I can declare myself as the king of the universe but that doesn’t ACTUALLY make me the king of the universe. Also here’s the simple truth: a man is a man down to his very dna. No one can FULLY transform from man into a woman and vice versa. It’s scientifically and naturally impossible.
      Regarding respect, I’m fine if I have not earned your respect. It’s how life is. People I respect, I know by name and personally as a person. They are not merely men, women, gay, trans, black, yellow or pirates. They are persons to me not merely people.

  • @kickstothehead3705
    @kickstothehead3705 10 місяців тому

    Christopher ward jus seems to copy what’s hot wise did a dial like that on a dress watch not with the Christopher ward logo but it looks very similar to this dial I guess that’s pretty much all micro brands tho

    • @mjthedealer
      @mjthedealer 10 місяців тому +1

      If you're referring to the Wise Adamascus AD15 it looks even better than this CW IMO.

    • @kickstothehead3705
      @kickstothehead3705 10 місяців тому

      @@mjthedealer I believe so

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +2

      Good point. But I think that’s intentional. At the end of the day, these are businesses and they need to profit to stay alive. But it’s a beauty nonetheless.

  • @farts184
    @farts184 10 місяців тому +3

    Grown men declaring themselves as women? Just a random transphobic comment thrown in for no reason? WTF

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +1

      I have a phobia against sharks, high places and the titanic. Im not afraid of transformers.

    • @farts184
      @farts184 10 місяців тому +1

      Then why the hostility?

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому

      @@farts184 I’m not hostile at all. You guys have a wild imagination.

    • @Pixelpunch3
      @Pixelpunch3 10 місяців тому +1

      ⁠@@DesignAtelier gaslighting people in your comments, what a great look for you lol it makes sense why you’d be insecure though, with your tiny hairless little Asian lady wrists lmao

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому

      @@Pixelpunch3who cares about how I look? Oh. Right. Pixelpunchers do. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jaredstephenson6468
    @jaredstephenson6468 10 місяців тому

    The transphobic remark was unnecessary.

  • @adamethancrow
    @adamethancrow 10 місяців тому +2

    It’s sponsored by Christopher Ward - I wonder if this will be a positive review, as he was paid by the brand? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +1

      I wasn’t paid.

    • @adamethancrow
      @adamethancrow 10 місяців тому +1

      Buddy you opening the video by saying 'this is brought to you by Christopher Ward' which is what is said if a video is sponsored. I love the channel by the way @@DesignAtelier

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +5

      @@adamethancrow yes it’s brought to you by Christopher ward because they shipped the watch here to aruba. I’m still not paid to make the video. I’m also not paid to keep replying to crows. 😜

  • @max.loves.watches
    @max.loves.watches 10 місяців тому +2

    It seems like you consistently invite controversy. You didn't need to say what you said in this video - you could have used any other example - but you chose to go with men declaring themselves as women. It's hard to believe that stuff like this isn't targeted and deliberate having seen other past behavior. It just really detracts from your content. You do you though bro. I'm just speaking my own mind.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +3

      I understand what you’re saying. Honestly people are free to do whatever they want and whatever to say. I don’t have a hidden agenda at all either. I won’t change peoples minds. I honestly think people are a bit too sensitive today. And also, im just stating the facts.

    • @max.loves.watches
      @max.loves.watches 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DesignAtelier I get it and don't disagree with some of the things you've said; but ultimately, for me, it's off-putting when all I want is to escape into watches. I don't want to hear football commentators wading into territory like this during a match either, or bringing up politics or their personal beliefs that have nothing to do with the sport. It's the same thing. And whether it's coming from the left or the right, whatever the opinion is or how noble a cause, just spare me and stay on topic please. I do realise no one is forcing me to watch.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier  10 місяців тому +2

      @@max.loves.watches see this is actually what I appreciate. You’re able to articulate what you feel in a reasonable and relevant way. Rest assured this is not meant to be a stunt nor written for controversies sake. Its a small commentary of what’s currently relevant but is also somewhat relatable to the unisex nature of the watch. But I won’t blame you if that small jab is a hook too far.

    • @maximofenn3202
      @maximofenn3202 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@DesignAtelierwell said by both of you

    • @andrewlevett4274
      @andrewlevett4274 10 місяців тому +1

      Aww snowflake needs a safe space.

  • @mrlocorio4291
    @mrlocorio4291 9 місяців тому +1

    Very creative and thoroughly planned

  • @SuperPussyFinger
    @SuperPussyFinger 8 місяців тому +3

    The Twelve shits all over the PRX.

    • @NCSheriff7
      @NCSheriff7 Місяць тому

      for the price you can nearly buy 2 prx powermatic 80 wtf is that comparison :DDD

    • @SuperPussyFinger
      @SuperPussyFinger Місяць тому

      @@NCSheriff7 - Have at it.