They could, but it would drain the batteries faster, and yeah you could go with a rechargeable battery pack to get it to last longer, but what happens when that battery pack stops charging, it's easier to replace some AA's, or AAA's, and you can even get USB rechargeable ones as well.
Search for the exlene gamecube controller, thats the best third party gamecube controller i have ever used. It has rumble It is wireless It has motion controls It also has zl, l3 and r3 And oh yeah, it uses a usb c to charge, so no batteries!
"this isn't bluetooth it's old 2.4 gigahertz wireless tech" Slightly bad phrasing considering that bluetooth is in fact old 2.4 gigahertz wireless tech as well.
@@Left4Cake good call, I haven't tried it much. It's not good for 2d platformers cause of the d pad, not good for most 3d games cause no ZL. I was sort of hoping Nintendo would make one with ZL and correct shoulder button mapping, but its ultimately (unintentional pun) a niche market. Even I can recognize the latest batch wasnt right.
@@fluttershystayshigh4202 There's an adapter available since the Wii U days that you can use. I personally don't have any wireless GameCube controllers, but it doesn't look too dissimilar to the front of a GameCube. The GBros. adapter, on the other hand, is certainly out of the question.
Actually 2.4ghz is still pretty standard on most wireless stuff these days. Pretty much all my wireless mice, keyboards etc. Have all used 2.4ghz even my high end wireless mouse still uses it. The only real concern with it is interference if you have a bunch of 2.4ghz stuff going on at once but I've never personally had any. If this was using Bluetooth that would probably be worse given cheap Bluetooth implementations have atrocious lag when used in controllers and input devices.
@@MrRetrostage looks and actual feel can be very different. I might adore how a controller works, but if everything feels like liquid ass, you can bet I'm not going near it
I still have my original WaveBird somehow even though I've owned and sold about 10 Gamecubes since then...it just keeps turning up in my "junk" somehow...I don't ever remember conscientiously making note to keep it. Now that I collect I do lol
They may have been too faithful, not fixing any flaws. It doesn't have an removable rechargeable battery and like you said, the dpad is the same. That being said looks great Though do you know if they sell the thumbstick seperatle? When I bought my wavebird, the thumbstick cap was broken. Right now I using an off brand wii nunchuck thumbstick cap. It's not great but it's functional.
i blocked ads to watch this video what? AA batteries are in no way more convenient. You have to go out and buy more every time they run out. And it gets expensive very quickly. And waiting to charge? What? Just charge it when you aren’t using the controller.
i have RC cars, boats etc that use 2.4GH. its designed so you dont need to make any channel adjustments or searches. it creates a unique frequency from the controller to the receiver.
WaveBirds are still reasonable just not CIB. I am always skeptical about OldSkool products (now). The Classiq II I had did not last too long. Nintendo’s stuff is (usually) top notch and lasts “forever.” My NES still works like a champ!
I still have my old WaveBird! It works fine. One problem... My GameCube died in a basement flooding a couple years ago. Good thing I saved all the peripherals!
Guess I made the right choice buying one this week, then. My dad’s Wavebird just started drifting a couple weeks ago, so hopefully this will be a suitable replacement. Thankfully the one I have still works fine.
The way you critique these are intriguing, you do it objectively yet you still add the appropriate emotion that really kick your personality expressed to the next level. Especially in your " Worst __ Ever " series where you make the experience fun while still able to showcase the mediocre things and that's one of the best reasons why you deserve more subs, etc
Me and my brother would purposefully set to of the plugs so that we each controlled two characters and tried to play smash controlling 2 characters at once. XP
Someone need to Remake the wavebird properly, with some modern improvements like built in rechargable batteries and updated radio signals for improved latency. Design is perfect leave that alone.
Yeah Umm i kinda got this controller because I saw your video and... I didn't like it... The analog sticks were too stiff, and the A button works most of the time but other times doesn't register... Yeah honestly I think I would rather get an official wavebird or the new wireless GameCube controller that released months ago
I have one rebranded as the wavedash and the increased sensitivity actually sucks. Moving the stick just under halfway toward the edge will cause it to register full input. I was testing it with starwars rebel strike and while flying, your ship wants to jerk towards where ever you press. There's no smooth turns and fine aim controll for shots.
Maybe you could get the All Controller to support older consoles with proprietary controller connectors. If it ever comes to the backers. Been 2+years and Shane has decided to step out of the project back in May 2019 saying that it was close to being shipped out, but Oct 2nd, 2019 we are just now seeing that they are expected to be in mailboxes by late November and that the next update would have box art, but seeing how this project has gone so far it will probably be delayed due to the box art and then the next gen consoles will release and they will hold waiting til the dev team has gotten the all controller working on those.
it would work with my wii, but if I want a wireless Gamecube controller I think the ESP32 mod like the hackaday bluecubemod project would work better tho, because switch support.
Even the official one does not have any, and it’s because the wavebird only sends signals, doesn’t receive any like wired controllers. So if they were to add rumble, they would need to change the entire way it operates and it would be expensive,nearly impossible by 2001 standards, hard to manufacture, and thus, rare. Would you prefer that?
I had a wavebird as a kid, I didn’t like it because it frequently lost connection with the wireless dongle. I ended up ditching it for a wired controller. It seems I’m the only one on Earth that had this problem since I haven’t seen a single video review ever mention it. I tried different channels on the dongle to thinking there was interference on that particular channel or channels. Even if it worked for a little bit, always resulted in input issues. And yes, my batteries were fine. I tried switching out to fresh batteries, same issue.
I've noticed some games do not work with this controller (So far, The Two Towers and Rogue Leader will not pair when I try to play them). I wonder if the Wavebird had that issue too? 🤔 Outside of that, it does work good with the games it works with, even if there is no rumble feature.
The only Old Skool device I have right now is an HDMI to SD downscaler. While it works great, I just forget to plug it into an outlet when using my PlayStations which causes some A/V problems.
No, you don't. A real Wavebird can be found easily at low prices anywhere. This is the solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Either you are a Rerez fanboy or you were sent by the company that makes these bad knock-offs.
@@OM19_MO79 Or maybe I just genuinely think this looks cool? But I can already see you're too dumb to understand that subjective opinions are a thing. Go be an asshole somewhere else kid.
@@NickTheEnlightened What's cool about a poorly designed knock-off? It has no channel dial, is permanently attached to its own reciever, only 2 can be used at once and the triggers are not properly designed. Or is it simply that you find cool that there's yet another company that gets in the retro gaming bandwagon? It's your wallet, anyway Keep making morons like this rich while the fad is still going.
@@OM19_MO79 The fact that it's an updated wireless controller and clearly works well with the console? And what's wrong with a company wanting to take a stab in the retro games market? Are you against capitalism by any chance? Anyway, you said it yourself: It's your wallet, so if you genuinely don't think this looks cool, just don't buy it. That seems like a much better use of both your money and time than trying to argue with someone online about their controller preferences.
@@NickTheEnlightened Updated yet it does less... definitely the way updates work. What I'm against is companies buying cheap knock-off from AliExpress, putting a sticker with their brand on it and charge at least 4 times what cost them when they bulk bought them. Also, UA-cam reviewers that make bad reviews of good things and good reviews of bad things when it's convenient for them. So much for integrity.
"it'll only ever be used for gamecube" what about the Wii? it has native gamecube controller support, and I should know because I own a Wii with Gamecube controller support.
Is the battery compartment identical to the original wavebird? I recently had the battery compartment (the thing that you have to open in order to get to the batteries) break on my old wavebird and this if would serve as a new back that would be lovely.
So, it's 2.4 GHz wireless, presumably using UHF radio signal, which you erroneously said the OG Wavebird didn't use, though it totes did, just the Wavebird was just UHF, instead of the really crap low signals the other ones would use. So the only difference between this thing's signal and Bluetooth is the branding?
I'm honestly glad they did not use rechargeable batteries as in the future replacing that kind of battery can be a pain in the butt, but you could always use rechargeable AAA batteries of your choosing.
I've never used a Wavebird and I don't see what the big deal is. They didn't have rumble and regular GCN controllers had long enough cords that it's not like they were ever a problem.
Some people just prefer the flexibility of wireless. It also means no cables stretching from your tv all the way to a couch. We've all had that incident where a friend or some kid thinks they've cleared the cables and just ends up tripping over them and yanking your gamecube off the shelf. In my case I have it on my desk hooked up to my monitor so not dealing with a cable is great.
Im sorry but these 3rd parties always manage to disappoint and cheap out with their gamecube controllers to the point that it looses the original feel. It either has to feel authentic or its a no go for me.
How nobody is able to make a wireless GameCube controller witb rumble is beyond me.
They could, but it would drain the batteries faster, and yeah you could go with a rechargeable battery pack to get it to last longer, but what happens when that battery pack stops charging, it's easier to replace some AA's, or AAA's, and you can even get USB rechargeable ones as well.
not even PowerA did it lol
Spawn wave media found one and it has NFC
Search for the exlene gamecube controller, thats the best third party gamecube controller i have ever used.
It has rumble
It is wireless
It has motion controls
It also has zl, l3 and r3
And oh yeah, it uses a usb c to charge, so no batteries!
@@ReverbRising Good sticks, buttons?
"this isn't bluetooth it's old 2.4 gigahertz wireless tech"
Slightly bad phrasing considering that bluetooth is in fact old 2.4 gigahertz wireless tech as well.
IsoMacintosh how ironic
Yeah, but Bluetooth is still getting updated, while non-Bluetooth 2.4GHz is pretty much stagnant.
> it will only ever be used with the Gamecube
And the Wii, and the Wii U with the adapter, and the Switch with the GBros.
Wii u adapter works on switch. But it only works with really basic games that dont require ZL. And smash ultimate.
@@crowmigration8245 That does thankful include Mario Kart.
@@Left4Cake good call, I haven't tried it much. It's not good for 2d platformers cause of the d pad, not good for most 3d games cause no ZL. I was sort of hoping Nintendo would make one with ZL and correct shoulder button mapping, but its ultimately (unintentional pun) a niche market. Even I can recognize the latest batch wasnt right.
wtf are you talking about? you can't use this on Switch, i wish you could..
@@fluttershystayshigh4202 There's an adapter available since the Wii U days that you can use. I personally don't have any wireless GameCube controllers, but it doesn't look too dissimilar to the front of a GameCube. The GBros. adapter, on the other hand, is certainly out of the question.
Actually 2.4ghz is still pretty standard on most wireless stuff these days. Pretty much all my wireless mice, keyboards etc. Have all used 2.4ghz even my high end wireless mouse still uses it. The only real concern with it is interference if you have a bunch of 2.4ghz stuff going on at once but I've never personally had any. If this was using Bluetooth that would probably be worse given cheap Bluetooth implementations have atrocious lag when used in controllers and input devices.
I still use both my Wavebirds with Wii's Gamecube port., they're amazing.
This is just a rebrand of a generic controller you can get off ebay
Yes but finding a normal Wavebird in good condition is tricky.
Jepp. Bought an $10 wavebird china controller and it looks identical.
@@MrRetrostage looks and actual feel can be very different. I might adore how a controller works, but if everything feels like liquid ass, you can bet I'm not going near it
Ben McLean i was gonna comment the same thing.
Im so alone i just want my ex back
You need to forget about her, move on and find somebody else.
Wow funny edgy humor 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Just buy donkey Kong barrel blast and you’ll never need your ex ever again.
Once you find another one you'll be alright, There are plenty of fish out there.
Companionship is temporary video games are forever
Wavebird gamecube control was my first wireless control. I still use mine.
I didn’t know Canadians said falcon like that. Idk if I love it or hate it. But it’s interesting
Shane is canadian?
Ryn MayMay yeah I think so
Do they consider hamburger sandwich in Canada? Would they call it a hamburger sandwich?
Classic80sStuff 🤷🏻♂️
I still have my Wavebird. Recently refurbished it. I will never get rid of that controller. Best wireless controller ever.
Love my og wavebird. Still works perfect!
I still have my original WaveBird somehow even though I've owned and sold about 10 Gamecubes since then...it just keeps turning up in my "junk" somehow...I don't ever remember conscientiously making note to keep it. Now that I collect I do lol
I just about 2 used wavebirds for $60.
Also just an adapter for PC and you use it for emulation.
They may have been too faithful, not fixing any flaws. It doesn't have an removable rechargeable battery and like you said, the dpad is the same. That being said looks great
Though do you know if they sell the thumbstick seperatle? When I bought my wavebird, the thumbstick cap was broken. Right now I using an off brand wii nunchuck thumbstick cap. It's not great but it's functional.
Hello Rarez! Let's all Wave to the Wavebird!
Ugggggggg thought they were gonna upgrade the AA batteries to rechargeable lithium-ion.
@i blocked ads to watch this video also AA batteries don't just short out and lose a chunk of its life at random right as you put them in.
i blocked ads to watch this video what? AA batteries are in no way more convenient. You have to go out and buy more every time they run out. And it gets expensive very quickly. And waiting to charge? What? Just charge it when you aren’t using the controller.
@@phonewithoutquestion80 Are your hands made of metal or something?
IsoMacintosh | dont bully him because hes different
D.D.T You don’t have rechargeable batteries?
My cousin and I always had these controllers for our GameCube. Happy memories of us play Mario Kart Double Dash and Pikmin 2.
i have RC cars, boats etc that use 2.4GH. its designed so you dont need to make any channel adjustments or searches. it creates a unique frequency from the controller to the receiver.
WaveBirds are still reasonable just not CIB. I am always skeptical about OldSkool products (now). The Classiq II I had did not last too long. Nintendo’s stuff is (usually) top notch and lasts “forever.” My NES still works like a champ!
Amazing. Only thing More I could ask for is the original Gray color. Silver is close enough and black looks great.
I still have my old WaveBird! It works fine. One problem... My GameCube died in a basement flooding a couple years ago. Good thing I saved all the peripherals!
I remember my first wavebird controller used it for 3 years without ever needing to change the batteries
Ben Sell damn
I still have mine unopened years later along with the WaveDash 3rd party GameCube controller.
Guess I made the right choice buying one this week, then. My dad’s Wavebird just started drifting a couple weeks ago, so hopefully this will be a suitable replacement. Thankfully the one I have still works fine.
Thanks a lot Shane! Right after I bought me 4 GC controllers, wired! LOL
The way you critique these are intriguing, you do it objectively yet you still add the appropriate emotion that really kick your personality expressed to the next level. Especially in your " Worst __ Ever " series where you make the experience fun while still able to showcase the mediocre things and that's one of the best reasons why you deserve more subs, etc
Me and my brother would purposefully set to of the plugs so that we each controlled two characters and tried to play smash controlling 2 characters at once. XP
2:34 Rerez! Your my hero!
I use this on my pc using the Dolphin Emulator and it works beautifully. Highly recommend it!
loose and buckling triggers are a no-no for me.
Great review!
Someone need to Remake the wavebird properly, with some modern improvements like built in rechargable batteries and updated radio signals for improved latency. Design is perfect leave that alone.
Ageeed.
I'm glad I held on to my 2 wavebirds
Now my old wavebird controller can meet its succesor.
I mistook the ape for Donkey Kong in the gameplay shown
Rampage
Yeah Umm i kinda got this controller because I saw your video and... I didn't like it... The analog sticks were too stiff, and the A button works most of the time but other times doesn't register... Yeah honestly I think I would rather get an official wavebird or the new wireless GameCube controller that released months ago
I still have a wavebird charger for those wavebirds that had charging
The lack of a frequency dial makes this a disappointment
imagine this: a shiny, metallic _purple_ controller.
I have one rebranded as the wavedash and the increased sensitivity actually sucks. Moving the stick just under halfway toward the edge will cause it to register full input. I was testing it with starwars rebel strike and while flying, your ship wants to jerk towards where ever you press. There's no smooth turns and fine aim controll for shots.
Maybe you could get the All Controller to support older consoles with proprietary controller connectors. If it ever comes to the backers. Been 2+years and Shane has decided to step out of the project back in May 2019 saying that it was close to being shipped out, but Oct 2nd, 2019 we are just now seeing that they are expected to be in mailboxes by late November and that the next update would have box art, but seeing how this project has gone so far it will probably be delayed due to the box art and then the next gen consoles will release and they will hold waiting til the dev team has gotten the all controller working on those.
is nobody going to address how he pronounces falcon like vulcan???
Hes saying it like you'd say millennium falcon. Because that's what the name is in reference too...
I might pick this controller up.
it would work with my wii, but if I want a wireless Gamecube controller I think the ESP32 mod like the hackaday bluecubemod project would work better tho, because switch support.
No vibration? No buy.
why must Rumble be an absolute requirement for a controller?
Even the official one does not have any, and it’s because the wavebird only sends signals, doesn’t receive any like wired controllers. So if they were to add rumble, they would need to change the entire way it operates and it would be expensive,nearly impossible by 2001 standards, hard to
manufacture, and thus, rare. Would you prefer that?
I had a wavebird as a kid, I didn’t like it because it frequently lost connection with the wireless dongle. I ended up ditching it for a wired controller. It seems I’m the only one on Earth that had this problem since I haven’t seen a single video review ever mention it.
I tried different channels on the dongle to thinking there was interference on that particular channel or channels. Even if it worked for a little bit, always resulted in input issues. And yes, my batteries were fine. I tried switching out to fresh batteries, same issue.
I've noticed some games do not work with this controller (So far, The Two Towers and Rogue Leader will not pair when I try to play them). I wonder if the Wavebird had that issue too? 🤔
Outside of that, it does work good with the games it works with, even if there is no rumble feature.
At least this controller exists. Unlike the Vaporware All Controller Kickstarter and IndieGoGo that you left after promoting it.
The only Old Skool device I have right now is an HDMI to SD downscaler. While it works great, I just forget to plug it into an outlet when using my PlayStations which causes some A/V problems.
Here we go again!
That's cool. Just wish that Version has Rumble.
I have mine but it doesn't work. Just doesn't do anything. Not sure what went wrong. Wired controllers are always quicker though.
OMG YES!!! I needed this in my life! This looks so sick!
No, you don't. A real Wavebird can be found easily at low prices anywhere. This is the solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Either you are a Rerez fanboy or you were sent by the company that makes these bad knock-offs.
@@OM19_MO79 Or maybe I just genuinely think this looks cool? But I can already see you're too dumb to understand that subjective opinions are a thing.
Go be an asshole somewhere else kid.
@@NickTheEnlightened What's cool about a poorly designed knock-off? It has no channel dial, is permanently attached to its own reciever, only 2 can be used at once and the triggers are not properly designed. Or is it simply that you find cool that there's yet another company that gets in the retro gaming bandwagon? It's your wallet, anyway Keep making morons like this rich while the fad is still going.
@@OM19_MO79 The fact that it's an updated wireless controller and clearly works well with the console? And what's wrong with a company wanting to take a stab in the retro games market? Are you against capitalism by any chance?
Anyway, you said it yourself: It's your wallet, so if you genuinely don't think this looks cool, just don't buy it. That seems like a much better use of both your money and time than trying to argue with someone online about their controller preferences.
@@NickTheEnlightened Updated yet it does less... definitely the way updates work.
What I'm against is companies buying cheap knock-off from AliExpress, putting a sticker with their brand on it and charge at least 4 times what cost them when they bulk bought them. Also, UA-cam reviewers that make bad reviews of good things and good reviews of bad things when it's convenient for them. So much for integrity.
But can you use them in the GameCube adaptor?
Wow you guys liked a product.
This black Falcon controller I bought off Amazon works fine through my Wii, but I tried it on my GameCube and there is no input. Any suggestions?
Yes! :D
Damn Shane, what is with you and D-Pads on all controllers?
"it'll only ever be used for gamecube" what about the Wii? it has native gamecube controller support, and I should know because I own a Wii with Gamecube controller support.
TheKHfan358over3d Wii U PC and switch via the official GameCube adapters?
@@oldchannel1165 those too.
Man, I'm playing Melee right now!!!!
Captain Falcon wants to know your location
The A button looks like it's a little bit too deep into the controller. I wonder why they wouldn't use bluetooth though.
Is the battery compartment identical to the original wavebird? I recently had the battery compartment (the thing that you have to open in order to get to the batteries) break on my old wavebird and this if would serve as a new back that would be lovely.
these should work with the switch too (i decided not to add this to the subtitles because you didn't say that so i'll add it down here)
So they re released a wireless controller that’s battery powered. Why not have to charged be usb? Going cheap?
Compare this to a generic no name brand wavebird controller you can find on Amazon or eBay
It's better than those, but worse than a first party one.
So, it's 2.4 GHz wireless, presumably using UHF radio signal, which you erroneously said the OG Wavebird didn't use, though it totes did, just the Wavebird was just UHF, instead of the really crap low signals the other ones would use.
So the only difference between this thing's signal and Bluetooth is the branding?
Shane, what happened to your Sega Genesis Mini review?
Or the backwards compatible Wii?
I wonder what happened to the video about sega genesis mini he was supposed to talk about
They should have just added vibration. Rechargeable batteries have come a long way.
I'm honestly glad they did not use rechargeable batteries as in the future replacing that kind of battery can be a pain in the butt, but you could always use rechargeable AAA batteries of your choosing.
@@CommodoreFan64 That's true but they still could have tried adding vibration, that being said it is being offered for a reasonable price.
Should work with the WiiU GameCube adapter, right?
Yes
I wonder if it can be used on the Wii since it’s backwards compatible with the Game Cube games?
John Puppet Man Ivana Fan Watson it hooks up to a gamecube so there's no reason it shouldn't
So, What Do You Think Would Happen If 4 Of These Were Used At Once? Any Errors Or Something?
"At least 2 controllers can be used at the same time" (2:03) Game cube is a 4 player system. Minimum it should allow 4.
Yeah, and with the ability to link gamecubes it makes sense that nintendo included up to 16 slots which is pretty impressive
Does this mean it works for the wii ports on the top of the system?
Do sega genesis remote arcade pad
Why didn't they atles upgraded to rechargeable usb type c or upgraded the dpad? 😡
Freaking monster, you use Kirby in Melee
Falcon?
Wait..
Where's han?!
I'm waiting for 8bitdo to make a receiver so I can use my DS4.
I thought they already did, no?
@@ssj3axll Not for GameCube. They have the gbros that lets use use GameCube controllers on your switch.
I have 3 very good wavebirds
I've never used a Wavebird and I don't see what the big deal is. They didn't have rumble and regular GCN controllers had long enough cords that it's not like they were ever a problem.
Some people just prefer the flexibility of wireless. It also means no cables stretching from your tv all the way to a couch. We've all had that incident where a friend or some kid thinks they've cleared the cables and just ends up tripping over them and yanking your gamecube off the shelf.
In my case I have it on my desk hooked up to my monitor so not dealing with a cable is great.
I used to have one of these. Goddamn thing's batteries blew out on me and the controllers innards got fucked.
2.4Ghz is on Bluetooth. It’s just not the same protocol.
Does this controller work with the Wii U/Switch Gamecube Controller Adapter?
Yes
Does the dongle fit into a Wii?
Its gunna be 2020 mang, should have a rechargeable battery with Type C USB.
Are the triggers Analog??
what kind of absolute masochist plays kirby in melee
Sooooo how's that Genesis Mini working out
will it work with the wii u adapter?
Hi 👋🏻 I have the black version of that controller 🎮
i wish they put 2 z buttons
What about Retro-Bit version?......
Nice
i like it tho
Im sorry but these 3rd parties always manage to disappoint and cheap out with their gamecube controllers to the point that it looses the original feel. It either has to feel authentic or its a no go for me.
I like your video but i aways seem to be hitting the turn down button on ur videos all the time tern the mic down a bit.thanks
Logitech PS2 wireless > Wavebird
Everyone: the gamecube dpad sucks
Nobody: The Gba dpad sucks
Me: but they are the exact effin same wtf?
It's the placement/location of the D-Pad in conjunction with the size that makes it suck on GameCube.