The Most CONTROVERSIAL Animated Movie EVER MADE
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For anyone confused: YES, this movie was AGAINST racism. But even at the time, racist people liked it because it seemed pro racism, despite the director desperately trying to send the opposite message.
Ah so it’s like fight club and American psycho.
unfortunately that's just a risk that comes with making satire. there's always that one portion of the audience that's going to miss the fact that it's satirical and think it's playing everything completely straight
sounds like an excuse to me. like that explanation was created after the fact, but idk the guy, besides any perceived racism it's still terrible
He had one job, just one.... 😁
So in actuality he didn't do a good job.
@@TheGuindoYeah like the dumbass who is reviewing for this movie here. Hints why his dumbass keep on calling it racist when it's not. Talking about it was "hard" to get through and shit. Yeah, maybe for your dumbass while supporting that shitty ass racist so-call " black mermaid film" called by same name, The Little Mermaid 2023. Hints why the black chick has the same name as the White Red Haired chick but looking like roots / color purple.
But this clown here wanna talk about "racism" and shit. Can be more racist then that. Couldn't even make a original story about a black mermaid, hell no. Nah, let's take the white chick with red hair and put her in black face and say look: here's your "black mermaid". Now watch her chase a white man and call him her boo. Again, you can't make this dumbass shit up and wonder why us blacks don't take y'all dumbasses seriously Stop trusting the foxes, they are no different then the wolves. It's one is blue and the other is red but they both talk the same language.
Do everything for everybody else, exempt for black people. Hints why we are where we are even today post past the 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s, 30s, 20s, and on down. Now say something about that, to the bitch who is making this video here. Speak on that. Wouldn't know racism if it came up and slap you in the face.
I love this movie. Being a black man who loves history that was how black people were animated. Its clear ralph was a liberal and not racist but even the most non racist people in animation still animated us like that, theres a whole cartoon that consulted us on our race and was uplifting but also had that imagery. One of those you gotta look at the message and the subtext. I'll always get high and revist this movie its amazing
That’s one of the Censored Eleven. Directed by Bob Camplett
Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs
Liberals can be and often are racist.
One likely reason is Bakshi grew up in this poor neighborhood in Brooklyn that had every minority you could think of. Black, Hispanic, Jewish, you name it. While it wasn’t a fantastic place he felt it was a safe place for people to be people and not worry about bigotry or racism they felt outside of their.
this is the most raccoon behavior ive ever seen lol
The whole cast are stereotypes. There isn't one person in it who isn't. I myself fit into a few categories represented, and while seeing it was uncomfortable, it made me think, "This is not only how I and presumably many folks often see themselves, but how society sees us."
Ralph Bakshi was either a genius, a madman, or a mad genius.💀
Truly an expert at fighting fire with fire
I assume when he was making this his eyes glazed over and he made that face he made in his cameo appearance in Ren and Stimpy
He's definitely the third one
Or he’s all three at once
Well since the producer of The Godfather paid for this movie to be made, I’d say the MADNESS is his, but GENIUS is all Bakshi’s.
"Difficult Satire" is actually one of the most apt descriptions of all of Bakshi's work I've ever heard.
One thing I respect about Bakshi is that he has NO fear when it comes to tackling sensitive subjects.
Again, such is as to why I respect artists of the 70s and 80s.
They didn’t care because they didn’t have to as much as “”artists”” do nowadays to appeal to something as useless as ESG scores,
or at least those who think they’re “artists” that can think they can somehow hold a candle to the masterwork of Ralph himself.
@@justaguyonyoutube4592 please, let’s not turn this into a condemnation of artists of the day.
"Tackling sensitive subjects" is a very soft way to say it. At this point, he is JUMPING sensitive topics 💀
@@yeetmeat2734 again, I weirdly appreciate that about him
The basic premise of the movie is to be as outlandish as possible to show others how wrong it is,
Btw I'm black and i love the fact that black animators were hired,
As an animator myself i love the art style.
I think whether or not this movie is interpreted as racist really comes down to the individual and their experiences. For instance, older African Americans in my experience find this imagery to be offensive. This is probably due to the fact that they've personally been demeaned with the same stereotypes, language, and imagery you will find in this movie. On top of that, the older generation had to fight to be treated with respect, so they may feel this animation undoes all of that hard work. Younger generations typically don't experience the same overt and aggressive racism that was so accepted in the past. They just don't have the same relationship with the type of stuff shown in this movie, so they tend to be more analytical about it. This is just my experience as a black millennial, sorry if I oversimplified things.
I love the creative mind Ralph has though, maybe it wasn’t appropriate to be watching as a kid but the contrast between the over the top colorful characters and the deep brutal looking dramatic backgrounds reminded me of Zdzislaw Beksinski’s nightmare paintings in a way
Recently an Italian youtuber named 151eg found the uncensored, original version of the movie that was project at the MOMA museum in 1974 but dubbed in Italian. It is the only version of the original movie
I saw this on youtube like last year in english
As a black women, I love this movie so much. It so deep in its symbolism. Especially when you’re educated on how colonialism and racism has effect black Americans. This cartoon was a big step for black animation, this one of the reason why we have shows like black dynamite and boondocks. Both cartoon shows that shine on issues that other media doesn’t talk about. This was genuinely a story with black characters. I think that’s what helped with the main characters being animals. If you was to see black art like afrorealism, we also depict ourselves with big lips and dark-blacken skin. Because racism taught us to hate those afro features so it’s a way to embrace it. This being just cartoon told a real life like events.
Yep the movie has a great sense of action something the today wannabe movies are lacking
Someone else who gets the point in this easily offended day and age
Black Dynamiter is awesome, Michael Jai White is such a badass and I wish he was in more stuff. By the way, have you seen the trailer for The Outlaw Johnny Black?
I honestly loved this movie and though Ralph doesn't have a stellar track record he has always been completely invigorated by animation and it shines through in what he has helped create
he was the main influence of the 90s boom in adult animation...like almost all creators of the most sucessful shows in the decade work for him on previous works
I completely understand why this movie is the way it is. Its to show you how fucked up and bad stereotypes are by simply putting them on display. Think of it this way, what gets people to understand how negative an experience is? Having someone preach it to you in a safe way? No, people find that annoying. What Bakshi did is cut out the middle man. "You wanna know how bad stereotypes can get? Well here you go." If this movie makes you uncomfortable, and makes you hate what is depicted.. *That is the point*
I think it was foolish for the director to be surprised when no one looked past the surface of his movie. Only seeing the surface is why racism exists at all.
He will always be misunderstood by fools.
Damn good point
Keep in mind Ralph Bakshi was one of the People pushing for Anime to be shown in the states in the late 70 to early 80s. Look for Anime Presented by Ralph Bakshi. It originally aired on the Scifi channel.
I think the movie was supposed to be for the casual/covert racist. There are plenty of people who know those views are wrong, but still hold them anyways. The film is supposed to make them uncomfortable because at the end of the day, they do know better, and they know that.
Facts ^^
This 💯
As a Gen X black animator broad, I adopt Bakshi into our demographic.
Which Bakshi flick got you addicted to his flicks? (I already liked The Mighty Heroes.) I thought Heavy Traffic was a lot better than Fritz the Cat. American Pop is the best.
Bakshi's original title for "Coonskin" was Harlem Nights. Al Ruddy's crew somehow got it perverted to "Coonskin" and Bakshi *CANNOT STAND* that title. Had it been called Harlem Nights Al Sh*rpton might not have gone after it, since the only.difference between it and any other blaxploitation flick is that it is partially animated. Blaxploitation fans *drool* for this flick (and Heavy Traffic). Xenon is its current distributor.
I love Blaxploitation films!
As a black man, I love this movie. Saw it on VHS back in 1992 when it was called Street Fight. Ordered a copy of the DVD off of Amazon. Dude, stop having so much guilt for liking the movie! It's one of the best animated movies ever made!!
Personally, as a black person, I love this movie. Since it was made in a satire way but also shows the way that we were portrayed in animation and in reality. I see Ralph Bakshi as an absolute GENIUS when it comes to animation. along with the fact that it takes an old folktale ( Song From The South ) and makes it in a way that feels like almost a social commentary.
Plus that being the 70s alot of these sterotypes werent sterotypes thats how it actually was. Alot modern black sterotypes originated from the 70s like the woman saying why her man left her. This really is a snapshot of black history and in many ways still relevant especially the preacher segments
Real brotha
no proof ur black and if u are... thats sad. stop saying "as a black man" because its sad that u think this is acceptable in anyway.
people like u are the reason blacks are divided. ur r desensitized.
u may say words dont hurt u but when kids grow up watching this they believe it.
TEACH!
Brother thats still a stereotype...
Racism has always been so cringe to me that i usually never dove too deep into it or explored animations such as this. As a 23 year old black man I definitely want to see this.
As a black man, (who hasn't seen the movie)
I wouldn't be surprised if the goal of the movie was too show whites who either are not racist or just don't think race is a major issue, just how Trulia perverted the perception of minority groups are.
I spoken to a lot of my white friends who seem to think that racism is an issue of the past. And that racist jokes are nothing more than jokes. This movie field zebra tri-otic but probably because it wants people to know how uncomfortable and messed up the perception of minority groups are.
Im guessing
Ralph Bakshi is one of the most fascinating people in animation. Even if you’re not a fan of his movies, he’s fascinating to learn about.
I think maybe the reason BionicPIG is so shocked is because he’s had a different life experience than the people defending it, which is understandable. I remember seeing this with a friend in the 80’s. Neither one of us is remotely racist and we didn’t find the movie to be racist either. Not because we agreed with any stereotypes, but because we got the message behind the sarcasm. We saw the movie for what it was. They did hit on a lot of cultural stereotypes that the audience of that time had grown up with. The imagery wasn’t unfamiliar and it may have been easier to see the sarcasm for what it was. An important question to ask (not just with this movie) is, "are they celebrating racism, or are they exposing it?"
What better way to expose stereotypes than to show them. Why have characters describe the stereotypes when you can just show them for what they are. The tricky thing about something like this however, is that these are things that should upset people. You should be upset when you see these things. If the audience is in on the "joke" or picks up on it while watching it, they aren’t as likely to consider it as promoting racism. For those who don’t pick up on the sarcastic narrative, they will see it as promoting racism. Where it gets tricky is that they’re not wrong (the stereotypes ARE racist) they’re just misdirecting their anger at the storytellers instead of the fact that these stereotypes exist in the first place - which is what the storytellers are trying to expose.
Also, I don’t think you’d find actors like the late great Scatman Crothers doing a movie that celebrated or even condoned racism. I think he was trying to bring light to the subject. Or maybe to put it in terms more relatable today, he was trying to bring awareness to it.
Based on your opinions on this movie you’d like “the blackening” and “they cloned Tyrone” actual good satires on racism
just ask a black person homie...
like the messages are solid if you can get past the imagery. this is a depiction of a terrible time fresh in Bakshi mind in 74.
lots of black people worked on this Scatman Crothers was not hurting for work it was something he wanted to be a part of.
I think the person who made this movie was incredibly deep minded and he wanted to show how bad the stereotypes of different minorities of people are judged by the White community and a nutshell
I think this is the greatest Ralph baski movie ever made it’s so ahead of its time
one point you made is that racists who watch the movie wouldnt see the anti-racist message and only caricatures to poke fun at, but thats part of the reasons Bakshi decided to make fun of all races. A white supremacist who watches this might have a stereotypical view of black people to laugh at but when white people are portrayed it gets flipped and their showed a mirror of their own hypocrisy. the conclusion they should come to is "if these stereotypes dont define me then they dont define black people either." its meant to provide a moment of introspection.
I think the way the message comes through is similar to what South Park often does (except even more outlandish). Cartman is one of the main characters and is portrayed in all his glory, and even though he's one of the "protagonists," we're not meant to agree with his perspective at all. Just because shitty things are being shown doesn't mean that we're meant to support those things - though like you mentioned, a shitty person will watch Cartman make fun of Jews and then will go out and make fun of Jews himself. But that's just because that shitty person was too dumb to see the sarcasm/irony, so I wouldn't lay the blame on the writers for that. I think some of the *smartest* movies/shows will sometimes have that effect on people, but it's purely because those viewers are too dumb to get it.
Only Ralph would be crazy enough to make a blaxploitation crime story out of the Uncle Remus stories. Love it.
Personally I think Backshe wanted to do the same as a parent back in ye olden times when they catch their kid smoking.
"Oh ya like smoking do ya?! Well why don'tcha have a whole CARTON of cigarettes?!"
The adage that you can get away with more using animation than with live media, Bashki pushed that idea as far as possible in a time where cinema was willing to push further also.
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I'm familiar with Bakshi's work, but I had never gotten around to seeing this movie yet. It... has some interesting takes, for sure, but I don't think Bakshi was TRULY trying to harm anyone when making this. Just another product of time that may or may not have aged well, depending on how you look at it. Like you said, he just was a bit naive.
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Hey, Fritz the cat was legendary for being the first X-rated comic ever made. I'd say that's worth the infamy
I feel Bakshi's intention was for this to be an "artist's movie" with it intended to be seen by those with his similar (outrageous) sense of humour which would be satirists and others animators.
Bakshi is the godfather of adult animation and was most certainly a man of his time. I highly doubt his movies would be greenlighted today, even with the anti-racisim message.
That being said he played an important part in animation history
If you want to dive into Bakshi's filmography, but avoid the... controversial hardcore animation, I would recommend Wizards, Fire and Ice, Lord of the Rings, Cool Word and American Pop. All interesting in their own respective rights with that classic style Bakshi could replicate.
My most favorite is Fire and Ice with the use of rotoscoping
I love Fire and Ice! It's and of course, you can't go wrong with the Lord of the Rings!
@@Darkgun231 YEAH MY GUY!! 😎👍
In so many words, Bakshi was cruel to be kind.
He wanted to slap all of us in the face and tell us to fix this mess we got ourselves into.
man i wish he actually recapped the movie, it sounds interesting but the animation just looks like something that would make me go insane
I have never seen this, but I trust Mr. Bakshi. I'm happy to learn about another piece of art he's made. My first exposure to The Lord of the Rings trilogy was with his adaptations. I have a lot of respect for him. He's not racist. His art always has a purpose, something important to say while entertaining us. If you love LotR, please watch his. They're real fun.
When it's Ralph Bakshi we're talking about, you gotta mention Cool World.
I just watched this beautiful yet somber animated film called "Night on the Galactic Railroad" and I REALLY recommend you watch and review it. It would definitely fit your bill.
I watched this movie years ago and it's definitely an insane ride (as is the case with most of Bakshi's work). It's one of those movies that you want to recommend as a fascinating time-capsule for animation and film, but always have to add that vital context first, because can you imagine showing somebody stills of this while saying "no, listen, there's some really interesting commentary in here. It's supposed to be satirical, I swear!"
It's got such an interesting history and legacy though, and it just keeps getting more bizarre the further you look (I already knew that Spike Lee loves this movie, but was today years old when I learned that apparently Wu-Tang Clan wanted to help with a sequel back in the mid 2000s?! What?!)
Omfg the Wu-Tang Clan fact is absolutely WILD
Honestly a friend of mine made a really good quote about movies like these.
"Good Messaging DOES NOT excuse bad storytelling"
I don't understand how u could misunderstand this movie I first watched it at 14 and I got it everything from the metaphors in the imagery to the message as whole saying Ralph was misguided is just flat out arrogant this movie is a reflection of the time with out any editing to soften the blow
Funny, I just saw this about 2 weeks ago myself. Damn good (but fuzzy since original cut on VHS). I'm a black 18yr old, I personally found It to be profound. It plays off the stereotype by showing we're more than jumpin' and jivin' "negros", we have matters to attend to, lives. It's portraying the gritty city life of 70s Americana In one of the best ways of the time, showing the detriments of everyone across the board. I see where others can be offended, but they're looking at surface level without first seeing the true meaning. (even If offensive). Great review like always, and no shame In enjoying It. It was made for everyone
Ralph Bakshi eh? You gotta watch the movie that was my gay awakening, Cool World. It's so fucking batshit insane, I fucking love it.
Ralph bakshi is a very bizarre man who has the biggest balls in animation and I believe this movie is just a complicated mess of very ahead of time things and oh so far back much like Ralph a mix of Genius and insanity
I appreciate his ballsy no apologies approach, but it’s also “geez dude, did you have to go so hard, like THAT?” It’s definitely a lot. He definitely wants to stir the pot then walk away and be entertained watching everyone else fight over the stirring and what’s in the pot. As the other commenter said, kind of a mad genius.
Its not Bakshi’s fault if you arent smart enough to recognize satire. 🤷♂️
Ralph Bakshi is indeed one of the most insane animators ever existed on planet Earth, and I love his work. Good Lord there’s so many racial imagery in this animated movie. You just can’t get away from stuff like this.
I love when people say the images from this film, make them “very uncomfortable“, it doesn’t for me. I am an adult, I understand the context, I also don’t live my life waiting for the next thing to “trigger“ me….Some people need to climb out of their cocoon, and look at the real world.
My opinion anyway.
I saw a small piece of Wizards as a kid. I watched the entire thing the other day and immediately wanted you to make a video on it because as far as animation and the weird concepts in the movie it just made me think of your channel.
Everyone’s an idiot in the situation. He meant well but presented it in an provoking way. And the people were not willing to hear him out and give him a chance
Shhh the guys arent supposed to know about the gun...
Ralph Bakshi should be locked up in psychiatric ward with straight jacket on because he is beyond mad genius
Ralph Bakshi is a great director and i love his movies with Wizard being my favorite. His style and messages in his movies do tend to violently slap you in the face and that is a good thing.
This movie is the definition of irony
A controversial movie parodying a controversial movie
@@sonicfanboy3375 couldn’t have said it better myself
They changed the name from Coonskin to Street Fighter. I love the Italian portrayals. Kinda authentic from my point of view.
I honestly found the drag queen siblings funny. Ralph Bankshis a genius to this day 😂
This is one of those movies you definitely have to view with a different lens and an wide open state of mind. I actually like it. I grew up in The NYC Crack/Reagan era so i seen all kinds of wild crazy stuff in real life. This is just unique entertainment to me.
I kinda thought you were just gonna relentlessly bash this one and reject anything said by Bakshi. Glad to see you had some real nuance to your commentary here. Certainly an interesting subject, and one I can somewhat understand both sides of.
I'm a black jew, and Ralph Bakshi has ALWAYS been my favorite animator/director
This movie is great. It doesn't necessarily make me feel good or even comfortable, but I get the message. And I enjoy the animation and chuckle thinking of how I discovered it. A Mom & Pop video store back in the early 90s had a kids section with your basic stuff, Disney films, and whatnot. Amongst them though, sat this
one Wizards and Watership Down. The title on the box was Street Fight with Brother Rabbit in a suit, looking tough holding a gun. No one ever corrected the store owners that THIS probably shouldn't be in the children's area.
I remember having to go in the porn section to find Fritz the Cat, I rented it too when it was called Street Fight, don't remember what section it was in, don't honestly remember the movie, them were some purple hazy days, but that was the best way to watch Bakshi for me. Gonna have to revisit this one.
I studied Bakshi's work in a comics class. I kinda get his philosophy but he always struck me as someone who has was convinced he knew best and didn’t listen to people who tried to educate him. It's s like a weird white savior complex where he thinks he's doing good, but he's too full of himself to take criticism or re-analyze his approach. His work also depicts a lot of violence against women and hypersexualizes them to the point of objectification. There was a specific group of feminist underground comic publishers in the 70's/80's who really hated bakshi bc they felt his work glorified abuse of women on top of the racist stuff
The Animation aged really well.
i'm black and I don't understand why everyone was upset. it's a damn good movie. ppl just need to lighten up and learn to dig. face value has no value.
It’ll be the white liberals that are offended coz they are the latent racists
You're invited to the cookout, Pig. I appreciate your admission of not knowing how to feel about this movie. Instead of pretending like you know you call it like it is. I think a question a lot more people have to ask is "who is this for?" as you said so beautifully. Depicting us as we are instead of a character to gawk at (as we are constantly shown as) would have made the message not so mocking towards those of color, and not so gratifying for white people who find it easier to 'other' us when we are treated as such.
gratzs on 200 vids
Ralph Bakshi punched the producer of Cool World after he found out the producer had basically rewrote the whole thing
Extremely based
"He didn't stop and say, maybe we're going to far."
This your first Bakshi film?
I would absolutely love to see you do a review on wizards it’s absolutely insane.
Another well presented, informative and interesting video. Even the images you could show were very uncomfortable for me yet I am intrigued to find out more and see if the message lands.
Bakshi Lived in his own word, he played by his own rules, and it was reflected in his art
Sometimes people have to be smacked with the truth in order to see it this movie and many other of his works are a great example of this
"we dont see things as they are, we see them as WE are."- Anais Nin, I think.
I had no business watching this movie at 13 but old UA-cam was a lawless place. The "random" vignettes of Miss America and the black woman talking to her baby didn't feel random, instead it was like an anthology series that shared characters and setting
Art has no boundaries!
Bakshi basically made movie about: organize crime, people in crime-world, reality urban decay, modernity!
I like finding the stories told by different cultures. In my many searches I discovered brer rabbit, beer fox and brer bear all come from oral stories told by afrcian American in the south. So that's properly why Ralph Bakshi pick those names and animals
Edit: Ah as soon as you post you literally say this
Sweet, love that your doing one of my favorite films
Yes! I was wondering when someone would review this!!!!! Thankyou BionicPig!!!! I watched this all the time in college high on pot haha.
Let’s go an another bionic pig upload 🥰
I loved this movie.
I forgot that I had seen it.
The voice acting was fantastic and was what really captured me..
Oh! And it introduced me to Miles Davis!!!
They take his best performances and put it in the movie.
(If it's not miles davis idk who.was making that magical noise in the movie.)
I think is part of the shock factor, like making something sooooo controversial it draws attention, it makes ppl want to watch it just to see how bad it is, cause if something is that divisive and blatantly offensive for some ppl, a lot of ppl is going to watch it just for shts n giggles and the message will spread further than if you just made a regular film, its a punk kind of mindset be offensive, be loud, make your voice heard n spread the message
The Walrus of Lurvve in a movie? Damn, sign me up!!!!
…on the other hand, seen this and it flipped my lid on the animation medium and its possibilities in such a manner unmatched until the recent Spider-Verse features
What is so confusing? It's a very simple concept.
Movie: *Depicts a simple-minded depiction*
Simple-minded Bigot: "Is... is that how I sound?"
Movie: Yeah. Cut it out.
Simple-minded Bigot goes on to adjust their perception of people as something more complex than a simple-minded caricature.
(Of course, other bigots with increasingly simpler minds will be too narrow to understand the message. But the movie is not for them. It's for smarter, borderline bigots who just need to be embarrassed out of bigotry).
It's over the top and stupid. But a bigot's beliefs are over the top and stupid. This movie is the essence of one kid mocking another kid at the playground by mimicking everything he says.
Art is subjective, it’s audience is encouraged to see the beauty and the message within it. We have to remember that it was created in a time of unease and a lot of racially insensitive products were being thrown out. But What I took from it wasn’t that he was trying to dehumanize anyone, rather he was Bringing awareness to a major issue especially at that time, so that we “mankind” can fix it. Sometimes you need to tell people what they don’t wanna hear, if u want things to change, even if they get upset about it 🤷🏾♂️
This film does a lot right off tops. If you know some black southern and Northern. The aet style goes back to the 70's. Like the person who did the actual painting for JJ. On the show Good Times.
A pretty interesting example of how racism isn’t superficial, it’s a belief system, not an action or image.
Can you please watch birdboy the forgotten children, or Psiconautas in Spanish?. It's my favorite Spanish animated movie and knowing the types of videos you make, I think it would a be very interesting watch
I’ve seen this movie and it’s INSANE
I wonder how all of the black actors in this movie felt after all the racial barriers were broken. Did Barry White, for example, disown this film? Regardless, Ralph Bakshi was a very interesting man
I gotta check this out 🤷🏽♀️
I remember finding the movie on UA-cam movies randomly and thought hey why not go watch it on the internet and i re watched it so much times
If your satire goes so far as to become the very thing it satirizes, it is no longer satire; it _is that very thing_ you eschew.
Fire and ice, Wizards, Fritz the cat and Heavy Traffic are badass as well 🔥
Pepole forgot what is a caricature the literal définition...
American pop is one of my favorite animated films of all time
This is the best recommendation for a movie
Yay new bionicpig video 😊
oh this takes me back just watching this movie with friends on Rabbit.