The reason the sisters kept saying things like 'dont you love me?' was because they gave off pheromones that normally made members of the opposite sex infatuated with them. Not Ethan since, you know, mold man. Thus their confusion.
Yeah but Lady D should know it tastes nothing like human blood. Also why would any of these creatures want to eat him if he’s mold. It’s stupid and doesn’t make sense
I like to think that the Duke is the same as Heisenberg and wanted to turn against mother Miranda, but instead of using Rose to kill her. He realize that he had to use Ethan so he made him an ally instead
I took the daughters saying "don't you love me" etc as a nod towards them seducing people before biting and killing them. So the average man can't resist their powers, but Ethan can and they don't understand why
I just wanna add that supposedly the reason Chris treats Wthan like that at the beginning is because they are worried miranda infected him with the mold and is under her influence, dont know if that justifies it, but at leasts it adds clarity, because at that point, no one but mia knows ethan is mold already.
Also, considering how military operations work, it is possible they were not 100% sure that this Mia was indeed a doppleganger, or if Miranda infected her body from the inside, but the danger was great enough that a potential sacrifice of Mia was considered warranted. It would explain why they referred to Mia as "target", rather than simply "Miranda" in the documents that Ethan finds at the beginning of the game. This would also explain why Chris didn't want to reassure Ethan that Mia was alive. Maybe he didn't know at that time, but was simply fulfilling orders. Honestly, there's a number of ways to explain why Chris behaved the way he did. Could they have explained it a bit better? yeah, but to me, it's kinda nitpicky.
Mother Miranda was helping Ethan as the old lady cause like Hesienberg said it was a test. She wanted to see Ethan fight the other lords as a test if he was worthy to be part of her "family"
@@augustobs24 you saying that doesn't change anything lol. Miranda only wanted her kid back. Ethan being recruited was never brought up by her. Smart ass
"Its ALWAYS our goal to create something that anybody can feel comfortable playing." 7:22 That is a terrible mindset. There are reasons genres exist. If they dont like horror then they shouldnt play horror not turn it into an action/adventure...
16:26 Heisenberg literally tells you in the game that Miranda was using Ethan to test the strength and loyalty of her children. If they failed, they didn’t deserve to be with her when she revived her true daughter.
@@ManFromTheFizz Because she didn’t actually give a shit about them. They were pawns, replacements for the daughter she lost. But she knew they couldn’t replace her. So she tested them by sending Ethan after them. If they kill him, cool she wins. If Ethan beats them, cool she still wins and doesn’t have to worry about them getting in her way. She knew she could one-shot Ethan, which she did, but she underestimated his resolve to save his daughter and that’s why she failed
Chris shoots up "Mia", takes the baby, knocks out Ethan, takes them all in a van to Transylvania and Chris has the audacity to be pissed off Ethan was starting to investigate. Smh
These games always have awful writing and never make any sense. That's why I can never stand them. I absolutely hate a plot that's predicated on stupidity.
@@uncensored008 _"We carve up the baby, give the pieces to the Lords and Ethan kills them! You don't have to a lift a finger! Just skulk around and gripe about Ethan getting in your way!"_
From my understanding of it the mold isn't actually involved in the viruses from the original RE games, it's just that Spencer took Miranda's teachings and applied them to the progenitor virus
I could be wrong it's been a while but I remember in re3 remake there was a file in the umbrella lab that talked about how viruses dont make good bioweapons since they're harder to control though it's been a while so I'm pretty sure I'm wrong
Capcom 2017: we wanted a noone character with no character that you can put yourself into. Capcom 2020: we really liked this Ethan character and wanted to see more of his journey... Us: Ok?
Also Capcom: _People complained about Ethan in RE7, so we made him more interesting and then killed him off at the end of RE8. But now we have a powerful character we will never make good on in later titles to tease you with!_
The problem is the difficulty is really misleading, Normal feels like Easy, and Hard feels like the way it should be played. Heisenbergs factory on hard mode is proper tension...
the factory section is so cliche' imo. Nothing about that section was new. The whole factory dynamic and the robotic enemies have been done to DEATH across gaming. They've also been called out for CLEAR plagiarism. There is a lot of stuff there that isn't even an original idea. It's one thing to take inspiration from someone else's ideas, but ol' propeller man is a direct ripoff from a movie done 8 years ago.
@@WutTheDeuceGaming well yea... its a factory level in a video game... just like a sewer level cos u know... its a video game... and werewolves and vampires and crazy rural villages are clitchès too??? Whats your point? Lol mine is that on hard mode, the monsters present more tension to hit those perfect shots in the tight spaces of the factory, therefore creating a sense of fear, therefore making it a passable resident evil level edit: im pretty sure propellar head can be an easy thing to think up, we used to combine heaps of different things as kids, i dont think its as serious to use plagarism as the word, maybe derivative or coincidence?
Alex already adresses this at 20:29. "i do not like zombie games where i shoot a zombie 5 times in the face and it's not dead.. and hardcore just makes it the same, except now you don't have bullets". and there definently seems to be some truth to that statment, having watched someone play through the entire game on hardcore. most of the difficulty seemed to be just running out of bullets because the enemies were bullet-sponges.
@Kermit Peanut by RE VII the fanbase was already split into two parts....one who favored survivor horror and one who favored action horror more.....some hated it cuz it wasn't the same RE some liked it cuz it was a breath of fresh air after constant action horror games starting from RE4 to revelations to RE6
Honestly Resident Evil Village's Hardcore mode is the true balance to the game. Same story and action sequences but the survival part is tuned up to fit Resident Evil 7's or Remake Re2's standard difficulty. It's challenging and adds that survival part that Alex says it's lacking. Even with new game plus it was still difficult for me at least.
The mold and the Virus Umrella used aren't related. The point they were pushing was the fact it was her research that helped to inspire and teach Spencer which as it states in game he took and then decided instead to use a Virus instead of the mold. She is much more an inspiration rather then a big contributing hand in what would become the T-Virus and many other varients of it from other RE games (a virus being different then a mold it would have to be done much differently to work)
@@Eric_The_Eccentric I would love to see a continuation of that version, 3make Jill is definitely my favorite in terms of looks and voice acting, with the proper game to be the lead in I think she'd kill it
I think some RE fans are too scared of action, and overreact when they see one section where you have to fight mobs of enemies. Action has always had a part in the RE series, and as someone who's played every RE, the horror in the series for me was always about how enemies looked and what they could do to you, not being in a dark hallway with no weapons, or being low on ammo all the time.
Yeah honestly RE has been more survival than horror. I don’t consider a game where they give guns with ammo to shoot at the monsters to be a horror. Hell I’m RE1 they give Jill a fucking grenade launcher. Yeah never once was I actually scared of RE. Played 0-8 and revelation games.
Exactly, in the originals you can blow off zombies heads with a shotgun or magnum, and blow up enemies with a RPG or grenade launcher. Action has always been a part of RE, which is why I find it strange why ppl have this general idea that if they're not scary, their bad. I've never felt like RE games were supposed to be scary, as in trying to spook me at all times. The iconic dog hallway Alex mentions, is only 1 area, after that I was blasting zombies, running around the mansion, solving puzzles and stuff. Idk, I feel RE as a whole is very misunderstood as to what it should be. RE has been successful and relevant for 25 years imo, because the games evolve and adapt, and switch up the formula
“hardcore is only harder because the enemies are harder to kill and you don’t have as much ammo now”. That’s where the survival part of survival horror comes in. Enemies are tough to kill and you don’t have nearly enough ammo to kill everything so you have to just survive.
That statement isn't even true though, the only difficult part on hardcore is the opening Lycan ambush, I literally never died after that, you still have all the ammo and health than you'll ever need. Survival in survival horror comes from being under equipped, scrounging for resources, inventory management, running away instead of fighting etc etc & none of that is in this game.
@@jellyfishtrifle7883 I’m well aware of what survival horror means and this wasn’t survival horror. It has a horror setting, but I never felt tense or “scared” while playing. Even when the baby showed up I was like “oh, that’s gross”. Same for me, I never really felt that I didn’t have enough resources to make it through the game and only died a couple times even on hardcore.
Funny, i don't have to play on the highest difficult in other survivor horror games to feel like i am playing a survivor horror game. If Village need that, than it failed to deliver.
Yeah, but in this game it does feel a tad bit excessive since they messed up on the balancing a bit. They nerfed Ethan's knife but also made it so you kinda have to kill enemies for treasure/Lei that you don't really have the ammo to kill. I think the game would've worked better in an RE7 style w/out Duke, while keeping the same amount of enemies and changing the loot from mostly treasure to crafting material or ammo. The only really necessary thing that Duke offers is the upgrades which RE7 implemented through static drops throughout the game, which this could've done easily. The merchant is poorly implemented here. I think they just wanted the game to be like RE4 so much because so much of the game is already similar to RE4.
Guys... I think you all need to replay RE4, that game was a lot more action packed that Village. In RE8 you still had to be really carefull with your resources, not that you dont in 4, but there you had a lot more stuff to blow the enemies up, and we had all the crasy things that leon did on his jorney (knife duel, laser parkour, etc..). And to be honest... I love that, I just love the cheese of the RE games, I think it give the series a unique charm.
@@MissZang411 exactly, for me, Re5, even being 100% a action game, felt more like a RE game than 7. Thats because that RE charm was still there (its hard to explain), and I felt it absent in 7, and 8 recovered it, 7 felt more a Silent Hill game with guns (well... more gun). The characters becoming bortherline superheroes by the end of each game, defeating a over the top manace, was part of what made RE special, even the verry first game ended with a police girl blowing up a giant lab mutant with a rocket launcher (its kinda ridiculous... but I love it for it)
And I did't even mentioned the vilains, that also carryed that super over the top super vilain cheese vibe with them, and I felt the vilains in RE7 lacked that, and RE8 broght that back with a new cast of crasy vilains (Im not saying i want RE to be a comedy, again, the RE tone is verry characteristic, but the RE vilains were memorable in part because of the cheese, not despite it)
Also my explanation for Ethan not being attacked is that he injected himself with the "cure" in 7, only it didn't cure him, but it freed him from Eveline's mind control, making him autonomous.
@@jellyfishtrifle7883 it is just about trying. Of course i wouod not have trusted heisenberg 100%. But trying would not hurt anyone. And rose or jake are bioweapons too. Does not mean you have to be evil or that people like them could never have the chance of redemption
I get enemy of my enemy and all that, but probably a terrible idea to team up with the dude who is mass-producing bioweapons out of corpses and who is clearly unhinged in his own way
@@leightonrud66 re0 was like 8 to 9 hours long compared to the 6 hours in re3. Carlos is funny as hell and has some of the least on screen time if I recall correctly
I felt like playing on hardcore changed the complaints about missing survival horror aspects, I never felt like I had too much ammo other than some bits in the factory
Rose is definitely aging faster, the post credits scene probably takes place maybe 2 years after RE8. Hope so, because I don't want a massive time jump lol.
@@kneelb4chevelle I'm trying to decide if I'm going to platinum it. I've got all but one achievement, mercenaries S rank. I'm just not finding the new mercenaries fun. It's a weird mix of mercenaries and raid mode, and I don't think it fully works for me. The time trial survival aspect just doesn't fit as cleanly with the stage based obstacle course style as you'd think. It's really frustrating to try to build a combo and having to run to spawn more enemies.
Which RE game out of the three does the 50 cal garbage scene come from though? I haven't played it yet but I am having a hard time believing something like that is in this one?
I love this series and Village was great. I think Alex was way too tough on it, but it sounds like he didn't really play it for himself too much. He mentioned he watched the VOD to catch the ending.
@@adblockevery1243 I know what he meant by that, as in 8 is heavy on the action, but 6 is *way heavier* on the action and overall insanity. Pretty bad comparison.
@@blahblahgdp I don't disagree with him on everything, and his points are totally valid. I just think he goes a little too hard and should definitely play it on his own time in full.
They missed an opportunity of making Lady D aggressiveness and threat to the player amplified for every daughter you killed and moving around the castle got wayy more difficult, Basically letting you learn the castles in's and outs and making use of small tunnels or hallways to avoid and outmaneuver a increasingly aggressive Lady D until the boss fight.
They should've put her level closer to the end of the game instead of the start. The daughters could've acted as spies and interfered with your progress as you make your way through the other domains. Even have Lady D get increasingly more volatile the closer to her castle you get after offing a couple of the other Lords and maybe one of the daughters.
@@kingcobra2858 You mean, studying the mold of a perfect host? But, I still don't get why she would of put Ethan against her 'family' unless she was testing how the mold faired against her variants. But, she was kill him anyway. So why bother?
@@TerraExodus the way i see it, she not satisfied with her "children" plus she knows Heisenberg is plotting against her. Making Ethan get rid some(if not all) of them would benefit her in the end. That while understanding mold Ethan's body.
Personally, I liked Village more. The lore, small details of the village, enemy variants and background on the antagonist that you can find in game hooked me right away. I found RE7 mysterious but lacking variety in monsters for me. Bosses were good though.
It was far more interesting from a story and lore standpoint, plotholes aside. But I am slightly concerned that they're leaning too heavily towards the 'action' aspect that landed them in shit in the first place before RE6 saved them.
my main problem with re8 was the dumbing down of the gameplay. Exploration was linear, so it kinda became a walking simulator. The item management was removed, crafting didn't require decision making like re7, wether you make first aid med or bullets from chem fluid. And yes you can buy crafting recipes, but it doesn't change much since you can also just buy the ammo from the Duke. Also mercenaries mode and Village of Shadows were much worse than the re4 mercenaries and re7 madhouse. But re8's replay value was amazing, I like 7 more, but I have 4 times more play time in re8
Hardcore difficulty feels like it's how the game is supposed to be played. You actually have to actively manage your resources and look out for enemies. It makes the game a much better survival horror than standard or casual mode.
Mia loved Ethan since she warned him not to look for her after she knew shit hit the fan with eveline after she joined the connections. Eveline took over Mia, knew of Ethan from her mind and wanted him to join the mold.
@@SerinitySack that's my experience after five full playthroughs, even i hate hardcore i like the game on standard unlike alex but you can tell it's balanced for it hardcore and vos fucking suck imo hardcore sucked even with the infinite ammo grenade launcher it's a drag that i wouldn't recommend to anyone who actually likes to have fun
Hardcore is absolutely fine. It's only difficult at the start. Village of Shadows... yeah unless you're insane that's only worth doing with an infinite ammo Magnum on new game plus.
Hard-core wasn't difficult, at all. Knowing what's coming next is half the battle, just budget your resources accordingly for the next section and avoid unnecessary enemies.
Miranda is not the reason of the outbreaks from other resident evil. She was doing experiments on the mold and Spencer learned from her but he wanted to create a virus and found it in africa and created umbrealla and so on and so forth ... so zombie outbreak its umbrella fault, not mirandas
One thing I don't get is why did Chris relocate Ethan and Mia to Romania with Miranda's village right around the corner. He wanted to use them as bait? Or this is just ridiculous writing.
@@jasdeepsingh7874 Im sure he knew... its a 100+ years old village... thye would have search it if they were going to make sure its secure to Mia and Ethan to move near there
Makes sense the baby thing was the scariest part. Their initial build footage shows that was one of the first things they worked on, before toning down I'd say.
Alex: "I love Resident Evil games!" also Alex: "I do not like zombie games where you shoot a zombie in the face 5 times and it is not dead" I don't think you like RE games then bruh
Yea Alex was kinda braindead this review... his criticism was that there's no tension because it's so ez but than he won't turn up the difficulty because he doesn't like having more survival horror elements?? Oh and his biggest problem with RE8 was the dialog?? Come on man... I usually agree with Alex because he's tuff but fair, but this time he's just kinda tone deaf
@@SaucyLifeH4L the dialogue is definitely cheesy and goofy but yet again, this is RE we’re talking about. A series famous for its cheesy, corny dialogue. And yeah, I didn’t understand his stance on the difficulty. RE villains and enemies have always been massive bullet sponges. That’s the whole point. So you have to manage your ammo and know what times are best to use it. He claims that it was too easy but then doesn’t want to turn up the difficulty because it would be too hard? There’s no pleasing this man lol
I think there's a strong possibility Ethan's model was used at the end out of laziness because developers to this day do still forget that the players are way smarter and more equipped than they're willing to give credit for. I don't doubt that the thought that someone would boundary break that scene never even occurred to them.
i think it was just put in as a little easter egg or teaser for the next game. it also kinda looks like they cut out a cutscene from that part. like rose is staring out the window and sees ethans ghost or something
I don't doubt it could be either way. It's Capcom so it being an Easter egg is a big possibility. But it's Capcom in recent years so the flip side is also possible. Until they say themselves I honestly don't know.
Yea I kinda expected that too, woulda been wild like you coulda fought him and then at the end than is able to reason with whats left of Chris's subconscious to get him to turn on Miranda and they kill each other.
Little bit of a nitpick, Chris didn’t know Mia was alive, when Chris found Mia in the game it was pretty clear he had no idea she would be there, he was sure either she was dead or just MIA…ha
Ethan was probably one of the last molded. Lucky for him too since he managed to kill Eveline before she was able to fully take control of him. As for the ending of RE8, since it's BSAA related I hope we get to see Chris team up with Sheva again.
RE8 = RE4 in first person + Ethan Winters. Incredible game. BTW Love it or hate it but Chris explains in the game that he didn't tell Ethan because he didn't know Ethan was overtaken by Miranda yet. He was taking him with him to check if he was cleared but Miranda changed those plans.
@@mattcollins3591 I liked it aswell but i do think 7 is better in terms of being a horror experience. Atleast in the beginning to mid parts of the game. While 8 was ONLY scary in the dollhouse with the fetus. And the rest is just pure action.
When Alex said he doesn't like a zombie game where he shoots a zombie in the head 4-5 times and it's not dead makes me wonder if he didn't like RE2 remake, I remember unloading 1/3 of a clip into them in the beginning of the game and they just kept rising I almost never knew if they were legit dead or not.
I think that was what was awesome about RE2!! When they dropped, you never knew if they were dead, if you could run past them. Do you kill confirm or save your bullet? The tension and atmosphere went up bc of that. Survival horror done right!
Yeah, it's a weird critique. Harder enemies means you need to spend more ammo which in turns you'll need to ration them to survive. He said the game didn't have enough survival too.
Alex made me cringe so bad. You cant review a game by not playing it. Like, what did he even mean by that? Its a survival horror game, just depends on your skill level on how well that goes
Alex is 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 resident evil fan, and it shows. no amount of foggy nostalgic recollection of the original 3 hides the fact of resident evil always being an over the top campy B movie with action elements that ramp up as the player progresses.
Serious direction? Have you played 7 8? Like they're both b movie horror movies with the plot. The only one that was near 100% serious was probably 6 but even that jumped the shark. Resident evil no matter how many times it goes serious with the games they always have an element of cheese factor or silliness
Alex- “I don’t like playing zombie games where you shoot them five times in the head and they don’t die” but then he JUST said he loves RE1 where zombies are REALLY hard to kill. Hardcore does make this game better because you ARE struggling for ammo like good ole RE games.
To be fair they really screwed up on not saying that Hardcore difficulty is the best experience for the game. If Hardcore is the real Normal, which it pretty much has been for the past few games, then they should tell you that beforehand.
@@gummibear696 honestly i would say hardcore is not really the best experience for this game even on my ng+ file with the infinite ammo grenade launcher the game was pushing it with enemy tankiness some of the basic ghouls took two shots to kill it seems very clear to me they balanced the game around standard, which gave me a very fun experience for my initial playthrough
RE1 lover that hate other RE games always contradict themselves. They complained about Lycan and Vampire, while RE1 has Shark, spider, bee, crow and even plant as enemy They complained about first person makes RE7-8 not RE games anymore, while their fixed camera (CCTV) angle has been abandoned since RE1-3 original They complained about cheesy line in RE8, makes me want to give them Jill Sandwiches They complained about Ethan healing doesn't make sense while in RE1, all main character was immune no matter how many times they get bitten. They complained about RE8 story. Like seriously? They want a survival horror experience but also want classic character (Jill, Chris, Leon, etc) back as playable character. That doesn't even make sense, how can experienced veteran like them can still struggle to kill one monster?
I wish i got more of the ACTUAL village, it just seemed too small. I think exploring the village with tension was my favorite part of the whole game. That, and the doll house. I loved the open map kind of exploration it offered.
It really feels like Angry Joe rushed to have this review out ASAP, rather than actually analyzing the game. Forgetting to mention their opinions on The Mercenaries in the core review, not playing the game beyond standard difficulty because "I don't like when enemies take more than 5 shots to the head and not die" (you mean like RE1, RE2, RE3, RE4, RE5, RE6 and even RE7 in their highest difficulties? Really? You never played an RE game past the baby difficulty?), complaining here AND in the main review that they want more of the classic RE heroes, but when they appear in the game ready to kill BOWs (because, you know, they've done this for decades), they call it "Call of Duty Lycans", failing to explain the story of RE8 correctly... Just... wow. There's a lot of better reviews out there of RE8 my dude, both negative and positive.
most reviewers play games on the lowest difficulty we should be thankful that AJ at least played on Standard and not Casual. That being said, it's pretty sad that reviewers do this. Most games are a totally different experience on higher difficulties.
@@masque9446 Yeah, I know we shouldn't expect much from a lot of reviewers. I watch AJ knowing that he also does that, but this review in specific felt VERY rushed and dumb. It's not only the fact that they played the game on an easy difficulty, it is also that their opinions have been very dumb this time. Opinions like "I don't like when it takes more than five shots to the head to kill a zombie" shows that this group's opinion on ANY resident evil game is moot. The game is about resource management. You SHOULD be feeling that taking an enemy out is costing you a lot of your resources. They said the enemies feel like bullet sponges that don't respond to you shooting them, when this game literally has the option to disarm the enemies by shooting them in the arms/hands or to kneecap them to stop them from coming at you. It's like they didn't even try shooting other body parts. It's like they wanna go back to the worst era of Resident Evil, where shooting the enemies ANYWHERE but their chest left them helpless and prone to being sommersault kicked in the face. Because, you know, that will make RE scarier.
higher difficulties don't fix what's wrong with this game. You're then just W keying and not using what they added to the game. Weapons and all that. Doesn't make much sense how they revamped the weapon system from 7 only for you to play this while conserving ammo. Why would you want to do that? "Oh, they added this this and this, but on hardcore you have to choose when to use it". Does that not sound kind of stupid to you? Not to mention, watch someone speedrun this game, you can easily run right through the game on those difficulties. "Play it on hardcore, it's so much better", yeah this, this shouldn't be the case. If the game was good you wouldn't need to play on a harder difficulty to get satisfaction from the game. That should exist on the standard difficulty, because it is the STANDARD difficulty people start the game out on, the difficulty the game was designed around essentially.
@@WutTheDeuceGaming You... really don't know what you are talking about, right?You just explained why difficulty levels exist while thinking you're saying something remotely smart. Nothing more. 1. About the "play it on hardcore, it should be better" argument you tried to attack, you are actually dumb if you think Joe, who has been playing games for years, should pick standard as his difficulty. What difficulty you should pick is entirely dependent on how confident you are on your skills; that's why there are 4 different levels for it. I can definitely see the average person having a challenge and enjoying the game on standard, but not me or people who have been playing video games for DECADES now. If you want to lie to yourself and say "no, standard is the difficulty meant for players like me" when you play games FOR A LIVING and then blast through the game no sweat, you have no right to complain about the game. You're at fault by not choosing something that would actually challenge you. Edit: Also, if the standard difficulty were to actually be designed for people who play games MORE than regularly, then you literally make it way too challenging for the average player that difficulty should be aimed for. Absolute garbage take. 2. Using speedrunners to compare how the average player will try to beat this game is the most disingenuous thing you've said by far. I bet that you and the majority of your friends don't play to speedrun games, but you use it here as if what they do with the game invalidates harder difficulties. Speedrunners prioritize the game timer over every other variable and, while a completely respectable way to play, shouldn't at all be a metric of how the average person plays the game. ALSO, it seems that you think speedrunners just pick a game for the first time and play it like that. You know they play the game first like any normal person, get familiar with the layout and after HOURS of trial and error they start to optimize every section of the game, right? It is also mad funny how you use average players for an argument and then pivot to professional speedrunners when it is convenient to you: "Standard should be average experience to enjoy a game, skill level be damned... also harder difficulties don't matter because speedrunners". "I just saw a speedrunner beat dark souls in 21 minutes. Damn, I guess that game is just easy. Bet I can do that the first time I play it too". What a smooth brained take. Unless you can play like the speedrunners and understand how you get to that level of play, then just don't mention them again. 3. Thinking that "playing while conserving ammo is stupid" when we are talking about a survival horror game shows how little you know about the genre and that you are just desperate to sound smart/defend AJ. If you haven't played this game or any survival horror game, then please shut up and leave the talk for people who have. If you did and you found it too easy, then guess what? There are harder difficulties that are probably catered to players like you, that you won't try because you love being in your safe space where games don't challenge you. If you wanna bring up speedrunning, early speedruns of the game got softlocked because players didn't have enough ammunition/firepower to defeat Moreau, so they had to delete their save and start again. You can't just "run through the game". It took a while to balance conserving ammo AND have enough firepower (by upgrading weapons with the money of the enemies you have to kill) to get over the first bosses of this game. On Village of Shadows difficulty, this is THE ONLY GAME IN THE FRANCHISE where people go out of their way to lose some time to get the mangum because otherwise the Urias fight will drain ALL of your resources and/or take way more time to beat. So, even with your dumbass "but muh speedrunners" take, you're wrong about this game being "easily W keyed" in your first runs. Jesus Christ, you barely strung a sentence that made any kind of sense.
@@augustobs24 1. WutTheDeuce's argument wasn't about Joe, it was about the idea that Standard difficulty is the difficulty that is meant to be played, therefore a player (any player) shouldn't have to play the game on a higher difficulty to experience the game correctly. Regarding the point about Joe, I think it makes sense he would play on Standard difficulty because he's likely reviewing the game for players in general, not necessarily players who are capable and able to play on higher difficulties, like you are able to 2. I think their point about speedrunners was more about how they added many cool new features to the game like the revamped weapon system, but at higher difficulties you end up not using them as much because you have to pick and choose, thus losing out on utilizing the revamped weapon system. The speedrunning was an example of someone not using the weapon system, which is actually a fair point, but I also see your point that it's a bit like comparing apples to oranges 3. One has to remember that different people like different ways of playing, and each person is attracted to the RE franchise for a multitude of reasons. I don't think it would be fair to discount someone else's enjoyment or viewpoint just because they like playing a certain way, or like different elements of the game. This third point is likely the crux of the annoyance you feel with AJ and Deuce's arguments, and why they may not have articulated their opinions with that fact in mind. I think both you and Deuce have sound points, but I would probably not attack another person while you're making your arguments, since it (unintentionally and inadvertently) reduces the strength of your points since people may view you as resorting to attacking the person as a way to shore up weaknesses in your argument, and has the added effect of the other person not willing to understand your perspective or appreciate your point of view and what you bring to the table.
Yeah. Alex was way off in this review. He was complaining that the game was too easy and saying it wasn’t a survival game but then said he doesn’t wanna shoot zombies 5 times in the head. Like what? Honestly, Hardcore mode is RE 8’s sweet spot. They should’ve started off there.
@@GrindEndeavors yeah, I agree. I think this was one of the worst reviews they’ve done. Nit picks they had for this game they didn’t have for re2 remake. For example re2 is not scary at all, but they don’t complain about that. Also on my first play through I felt tension in the castle and the factory (and the baby part). I think they forget that re7 was a jump scare horror game rather than how any of the other games played out. Which is why re8 may be one of the best games, it has the best elements from every re game.
Chris' behaviour in this game is very realistic. After all these years of watching people around him die and nothing change, he's jaded, he's cynical, he's just so done. Chris has decided that he's going to shoulder the weight of the world single handedly and he doesn't want anyone else involved. Personally, at this point, I think Chris honestly just wants to die, but he can't find anything that can kill him. So until then, he'll run himself ragged until he finally meets something that can end him. If it helps, his squad mates straight up tell Chris he was an idiot for keeping Ethan in the dark. And he agrees he made a terrible decision.
My first run was hardcore and it felt like a survival game. The way they talk, they didn't play in hardcore for sure. Village of shadows seems almost impossible to beat without guns/ammo/upgrades from a previous save. The survival aspect of the game is there, you just have to select the right difficult for it.
Yeah. Playing on Hardcore was 100% the way it should be played from the get. It was a true survival experience. Loved every second of it. Running through Village of Shadows now, somewhat easier now because of the arsenal you carry over.
@@helmeiragames I don't think so, it's just that the lower difficulty setting are for those who don't have the time to play it for long sessions or just want to get to the story. For those wanting the "full experience" should play these kind of games at the hardest difficulty setting.
Yeah they honestly just added that statement because they realized that the game just wasn't very scary??.. 7 wasn't even that scary. 7 VR was I'll get that lol.. but VR horror is easy.
@@hypeman1825 there are people who hate the horror aspect of RE. And won’t buy the game if it’s too scary. Unfortunately RE9 will probably be even more like RE6
@@nachocheez9690 it might be too much work. Especially when it comes to an atmosphere of horror. I don’t think removing all the jump scares would be that much work however.
@@DjSaltyDog Fine enough for me?. As long as it's fun then I'm not angry. For as dumb as RE6 was.. it was definitely repayable lol. Absolutely not scary in the slightest but whatever. Just be one thing or the other. Or you'll get another RE3 remake.
i liked this one more than 7. I just love games in a snowy setting. The pacing was in Village pretty awesome. It was not the scariest i agree. But it was more fun than part 7. I don’t do ratings (theyre lame) one person likes different things in a game than someone else.
Alex missed the mark. He clearly hasn’t played games like resident evil 4. Which obviously this game took huge inspiration from. And he’s talking like it’s a complete action game. It’s DEFINITELY still a horror game. And hates that you can’t kill the zombies 1 shot in the head. But cleaaaaarly hasn’t played RE2 which takes MORE shots to the head and it’s one of the best games. Plus the last section and couple hours is the best part of the game btw. Dialogue is always cheesy we love that shit in our resident evil.
Right. This pretty much felt like RE4 with RE7s skin. I still prefer 7 but I had a great time with this one. RE2 remake enemies take hella shots. That game was also titts
Mirenda wanted to test Ethan to see if he could fit in the family I think. That's why she helped him as the old lady.. I'm not sure though, just a semi-wild guess.
@@F7HFL But there were four women. Mask of Pleasure for the daughter that wanted love, Mask of Joy for the daughter that loved the thrill of the hunt, Mask of Sorrow for the one that was disappointed in the other sister, and Mask of Rage for Lady D.
"I don't like playing hardcore because zombies take too many bullets to kill" they're not zombies they're lycans. What the hell do you expect??? 🙄 I sometimes agree with them regarding other game genres but for horror games, people have better options when it comes to reviewers. 🤦
With how 8 ended I could see Chris being the next protagonist, taking his fight to the BSAA with his WHS. Though I do want a new game with Leon I know what some devs have said about focussing on Rose but still, They know how the fanbase feels about the Winters and that's why they put that message at the end. Sure Rose will be part of the plot but I see her as an NPC. I don't see us playing as a teenager and doing a time jump is kinda meh. In the future maybe she'll be playable like Sherry Birkin was in RE6. Plus Rose would be super broken to play as with all her abilities that she knows she has. It's like people saying "Play as Ciri next in the Witcher 4". You wouldn't have a game. Unless they retcon/nerf everything and get rid off the original story beats.
Oh no twistedmetalplayer21 said it's all false so it's fact, pack it in boys. What was I thinking, twistedmetalplayer21 is always right about everything, Why do we even bother?
But how are you gonna make a survival horror game with Chris and leon, games like re 5,6 and Chris's section in 8 is exactly what would happen in those scenarios then again maybe you like action packed RE games so you'd like that (not that theres anything wrong with that)
@@Mr.Scott86 You can have survival horror with any of the classic characters. No idea what you're talking about, they simply have to make it SH. No one is forcing them to make it more action just because they were in 5 and 6. Plus it's foolish to not use the huge cast of characters they already have and people love, where it's been years since we've last seen them
@@dblundz I think the point is, we couldn't have survival horror with the classic characters because it wouldn't make sense, they've gone all over the world fighting zombies and monsters for 20+ years, theyre used to it, they're all basically super cop mega soldiers, nothing is an obstacle for them anymore... I mean just look at Chris in RE8, he blasts his way through the whole village in 5 minutes it takes Ethan like 10-12 hours, look at Leon in RE4 and RE6, literally quipping and joking with monsters, doing sick back flip kicks and dual wielding handguns like god damn Max Payne, there is NO horror or suspense for these characters anymore, it's literally just another day at the office for them.
I think Mia did love Ethan, genuinely but she was complicit in creating bio weapons at the same time. Those two aren't mutually exclusive, a person creating bio weapons can still love someone and have a normal life when they're off the clock.
For me this is an upgrade on 7 which literally had 1 enemy type other than the bosses... and the entire boat sequence was awful. Do people forget that?
I'd like to point out that Evelien is like "Oh Ethan, you died at the Baker house three years ago and now you are a mold person!" meanwhile Mia got an Axe to the neck and shot several times and she's just fine.
@@devindalton4688 no shes not she was an infected she never died just infected while Ethan DID die, Mia's regeneration was due to the mold which was cured at the end of 7
I can tell you guy's aren't as big a fan as you think you are. The story implications were pretty good, as well as playing as Chris, he was a complete badass as always, gave me chills playing as him. I respect your opinions and criticisms though.
Joe you missunderstand one Plot Point. The Mold has nothing to do with the Viruses in the Resi universe. In Mirandas Lab is this Note about Spencer and it says that Spencer work with Miranda for Years but Miranda only wants bring one Person back to live(her daughter) and Spencer wanted chance the World etc.... Then he mentioned he found the "Progenitor" Virus in Africa(Resi 5) and this Starts all the things.
We've played as Leon, Chris, Claire, and Jill so many times. Let a new story be told. That's what I liked about Ethan in 7. He didn't have a "been there done that" attitude to what was on screen. Would love to play as Rose in 9. The time skip sets us up for a lot of new possibilities.
I loved the game but a lot of it felt rushed through. You literally do the equivalent of walking into House Beneviento, slapping Donna to the floor, and then leaving. Lol
I kinda wish the Hag should’ve been a separated character from Miranda and being the penultimate boss and transformed into a mold version of Grim Reaper according to the Village Of Shadows book. Having her own army of the mold version of dark magicians/sorceress would be an awesome addition as well, similar to the cultist enemies from RE4 game. I kinda also wish they should’ve added more enemies for Moreau’s stage where a bunch of mold mermaids and mermen lurking and swimming around the lake. Now I really hope to see a new DLC for RE8 in the future.
If they want to keep it horror oriented (or at least half-horror half-action), Rose will be a main plot character, but not the playable character. Maybe Mia? She had military training already.
BRO I really can't understand how yahll did a review on the game in the light around a whole bunch of people. How do you get the full effect of a horror game sitting right next to someone
16:30 Miranda helped guide you as the old lady because Heisenburg was right, she wanted you to kill off her failed experimental "children" and gather the parts of rose for her.
Alex’s take on this game is misguided. Resident evil hasn’t been pure horror since 1 and 7, not even 7 keep the horror all game. Not even the animated movies have been pure horror, Resident evil is an action series with horror elements.
I feel people forget how the end of the original RE 2 basically turned into a shooting gallery, and RE 3 being a survival horror with action being much more of a focus. Code Veronica jumped the shark pretty crazy too.
what horror? since when was a SINGLE resident evil scary? if anything they were filled with tension. people really confuse them because they played those games as a kid while those games were meant for adults (which are scary for kids, yes, but not for adults, it would just be filled with tension). nostalgia blind people like Alex really should take off those rose tinted glasses. even the enemies in older games were tanky as hell, you had to be greedy with your ammo. alex said that he doesnt want that enemies to take more than 4 shots while enemies in the older games LITERALLY CAN SURVIVE MORE THAN 4 SHOTS, hypocritical af. if alex wants to criticise a game then please with good arguments and not in form of a temper tantrum. from what i heard from alex, he just wants to shit on this game for the sake of shitting on it.
I don't understand people saying this game is too easy. I played on standard and I was always running out of ammo and health for at least the first half of the game. Any time I built up a surplus, there was a boss fight or hoard right around the corner to deplete all my resources. I routinely had 0/0 on my ammo display, especially for the shotgun. Now, I do tend to stand and fight instead of run, but I'm a decent shot and don't miss THAT much. I dunno, I felt like I was playing a different game than what everyone else was describing as the only time I had a surplus of ammo that wasn't immediately used up was in the last 20% of the game.
The reason the sisters kept saying things like 'dont you love me?' was because they gave off pheromones that normally made members of the opposite sex infatuated with them. Not Ethan since, you know, mold man. Thus their confusion.
Oh is that the lore behind them, with the pheromones?
Facts
Hmmm
It's in the documents in game...if you find them. I only know from watching playthroughs.
@@crimsonwolf3487 And they're made of @#$%ing flies! LOL Not my Resident Evil.
The daughters are basically flies so that’s why they like Ethan’s taste but Madame D doesn’t. It’s actually extra foreshadowing to him being dead.
hmmm thats why lady d said that when she tasted his blood...nice pointing it out.
Flies don't eat mold and if the mold somehow brought Ethan back to the way he was before his death than the mold is actually a good thing.
I usually agree with them all the time, but with the last few reviews (especially this one) it’s just.. I don’t know.
Yeah but Lady D should know it tastes nothing like human blood. Also why would any of these creatures want to eat him if he’s mold. It’s stupid and doesn’t make sense
Why would she think it’s stale? Like shouldn’t she be like “wow I’ve tasted stale blood before and that’s way worse than stale blood!”
At the beginning of the game in the house you can find Rose's birth certificate and it says she was 15 lbs at birth. She's definitely growing fast.
That's a huge baby
Imagine pushing a baby that big out.
@@Tee_B why are you like this
@@jeanniemaycrawford4466 says the one named Tigol Biddies
@@nodot17 😂
I like to think that the Duke is the same as Heisenberg and wanted to turn against mother Miranda, but instead of using Rose to kill her. He realize that he had to use Ethan so he made him an ally instead
I think he might be the fifth Lord
@@macmiller9510 oh wow that's an interesting theory
He was intended to be the 5th lord, no theories
@@anthonykarnes6804that's an interesting theory! 😊.
@@macmiller9510 A fifth Lord?
I took the daughters saying "don't you love me" etc as a nod towards them seducing people before biting and killing them. So the average man can't resist their powers, but Ethan can and they don't understand why
"Everyone else was so happy". Crystal clear.
Doesn't explain why their dumb asses didn't just retreat to safety once Ethan found a way to expose them to the cold.
@@Blackemperess They're made out of insects... more so flies. Things dumb enough to ram into a window endlessly when the other side is open.
I thought the same, i dunno why that's weird.
I couldn't resist
Chris Redfield's steroid abuse is affecting both his work, personal life, and somehow the Resident Evil/ Biohazard franchise on a meta level.
And apparently, it's aged him about 20 years since the last game.
lol
@@Chris-vz7en test injections does speed your face up when you want to be as big as chris.
I mean, there is a reason why he wanted to continue the Redfield bloodline.
That boulder punching bastard
I just wanna add that supposedly the reason Chris treats Wthan like that at the beginning is because they are worried miranda infected him with the mold and is under her influence, dont know if that justifies it, but at leasts it adds clarity, because at that point, no one but mia knows ethan is mold already.
Also, considering how military operations work, it is possible they were not 100% sure that this Mia was indeed a doppleganger, or if Miranda infected her body from the inside, but the danger was great enough that a potential sacrifice of Mia was considered warranted. It would explain why they referred to Mia as "target", rather than simply "Miranda" in the documents that Ethan finds at the beginning of the game.
This would also explain why Chris didn't want to reassure Ethan that Mia was alive. Maybe he didn't know at that time, but was simply fulfilling orders.
Honestly, there's a number of ways to explain why Chris behaved the way he did. Could they have explained it a bit better? yeah, but to me, it's kinda nitpicky.
Think Rose is new abby
How long do you think Miranda was with Ethan? Lol I just want to know if Ethan slept with her xD
I think its such a big plot hole that Ethan was not tested for the mold after the events of RE7. Just another example of how ridiculous the story is.
@@p4nnus it's a video game seriously to much attention these days on games stupid not movie
Mother Miranda was helping Ethan as the old lady cause like Hesienberg said it was a test. She wanted to see Ethan fight the other lords as a test if he was worthy to be part of her "family"
Yes and expose there weakness to better make her daughter the perfect vessel it was all in front you.
@@jigokuNeko it’s shit.
at no point does miranda mention ethan joining her family. ONLY Nic cage says that, and it never comes up again.
@@grilledleeks6514 Good to know you don't pay attention to the games you play, man.
@@augustobs24 you saying that doesn't change anything lol. Miranda only wanted her kid back. Ethan being recruited was never brought up by her. Smart ass
"Its ALWAYS our goal to create something that anybody can feel comfortable playing." 7:22 That is a terrible mindset. There are reasons genres exist. If they dont like horror then they shouldnt play horror not turn it into an action/adventure...
This is way too scary for me to play as someone who doesn’t play horror games so they definitely fucked up on that front
16:26
Heisenberg literally tells you in the game that Miranda was using Ethan to test the strength and loyalty of her children. If they failed, they didn’t deserve to be with her when she revived her true daughter.
What's even the point if he ends up killing them all though?
@@ManFromTheFizz
Because she didn’t actually give a shit about them. They were pawns, replacements for the daughter she lost. But she knew they couldn’t replace her. So she tested them by sending Ethan after them. If they kill him, cool she wins. If Ethan beats them, cool she still wins and doesn’t have to worry about them getting in her way. She knew she could one-shot Ethan, which she did, but she underestimated his resolve to save his daughter and that’s why she failed
Chris shoots up "Mia", takes the baby, knocks out Ethan, takes them all in a van to Transylvania and Chris has the audacity to be pissed off Ethan was starting to investigate. Smh
think it was a 'oh my fuckin god its my job to protect you, stop involving yourself more!' kinda thing
These games always have awful writing and never make any sense. That's why I can never stand them. I absolutely hate a plot that's predicated on stupidity.
"Ethan, no!"
Chris, he is not a dog, lmao
Actually the van was to take them OUT OF "Transylvania"
To be fair, in a file it said Chris didn't know if Miranda had infected Ethan so he was going to run some tests first before telling him.
I mean he went out of his way to get his wife. How the hell would you not expect him to go after his daughter.
Chris!!
*CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS* wesker voice
THINK CHRIS! THINK!
@@uncensored008 _"We carve up the baby, give the pieces to the Lords and Ethan kills them! You don't have to a lift a finger! Just skulk around and gripe about Ethan getting in your way!"_
From my understanding of it the mold isn't actually involved in the viruses from the original RE games, it's just that Spencer took Miranda's teachings and applied them to the progenitor virus
They created the Virus with a flower though so how did they apply Miranda's teachings to that? Her teachings of what infect people with fungus?
T Veronica Virus came from ants though.
I could be wrong it's been a while but I remember in re3 remake there was a file in the umbrella lab that talked about how viruses dont make good bioweapons since they're harder to control though it's been a while so I'm pretty sure I'm wrong
@@cjmk5923 More like he took some of her ideas and decided to apply them to the whole humanity.
She inspired the entirety of the RE franchise. They’re taking it a bit far saying she created it
Capcom 2017: we wanted a noone character with no character that you can put yourself into.
Capcom 2020: we really liked this Ethan character and wanted to see more of his journey...
Us: Ok?
Also Capcom:
_People complained about Ethan in RE7, so we made him more interesting and then killed him off at the end of RE8. But now we have a powerful character we will never make good on in later titles to tease you with!_
'None character with no character' ..
Is that your way of saying 'everyman character' ??
The problem is the difficulty is really misleading, Normal feels like Easy, and Hard feels like the way it should be played. Heisenbergs factory on hard mode is proper tension...
the factory section is so cliche' imo. Nothing about that section was new. The whole factory dynamic and the robotic enemies have been done to DEATH across gaming. They've also been called out for CLEAR plagiarism. There is a lot of stuff there that isn't even an original idea. It's one thing to take inspiration from someone else's ideas, but ol' propeller man is a direct ripoff from a movie done 8 years ago.
@@WutTheDeuceGaming well yea... its a factory level in a video game... just like a sewer level cos u know... its a video game... and werewolves and vampires and crazy rural villages are clitchès too??? Whats your point? Lol mine is that on hard mode, the monsters present more tension to hit those perfect shots in the tight spaces of the factory, therefore creating a sense of fear, therefore making it a passable resident evil level edit: im pretty sure propellar head can be an easy thing to think up, we used to combine heaps of different things as kids, i dont think its as serious to use plagarism as the word, maybe derivative or coincidence?
And village of shadows is just bs
Alex already adresses this at 20:29. "i do not like zombie games where i shoot a zombie 5 times in the face and it's not dead.. and hardcore just makes it the same, except now you don't have bullets". and there definently seems to be some truth to that statment, having watched someone play through the entire game on hardcore. most of the difficulty seemed to be just running out of bullets because the enemies were bullet-sponges.
Even on Hardcore I had no issues in the factory xD
RE VII was scarier. But that freaking baby in Village had my palms gripping the controller with panic.
@Kermit Peanut by RE VII the fanbase was already split into two parts....one who favored survivor horror and one who favored action horror more.....some hated it cuz it wasn't the same RE some liked it cuz it was a breath of fresh air after constant action horror games starting from RE4 to revelations to RE6
That part wasn't scary for me but made me wish Resident evil meets silent hill would come true.
Honestly Resident Evil Village's Hardcore mode is the true balance to the game. Same story and action sequences but the survival part is tuned up to fit Resident Evil 7's or Remake Re2's standard difficulty. It's challenging and adds that survival part that Alex says it's lacking. Even with new game plus it was still difficult for me at least.
Village is very similar to RE 4 actually and it has various bosses and action sequences with rocket launcher.
@Kermit Peanut my
The mold and the Virus Umrella used aren't related. The point they were pushing was the fact it was her research that helped to inspire and teach Spencer which as it states in game he took and then decided instead to use a Virus instead of the mold. She is much more an inspiration rather then a big contributing hand in what would become the T-Virus and many other varients of it from other RE games (a virus being different then a mold it would have to be done much differently to work)
That is what I was saying.
Idk what Alex is talking about, RE4 was also “Action thriller”
Nostalgia blinds people
Yeah, sometimes I don't really care for Alex's opinion.
Fr this game was just a shorter and first person version of re4 which isn't a bad thing at all
Is that the guy that said village is basically re6?? 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Days Gone on pc then this
I feel like we haven't seen anything of Jill Valentine for a long time. That would be my vote
Agreed.
Count me in! Capcom did such a dirty job to my girl
Wasn't the game to release before 8 the 3make?
@@jdnuni yeah you're right. But I think they meant a continuation of her story and not a remake. I'd like to see that too.
@@Eric_The_Eccentric I would love to see a continuation of that version, 3make Jill is definitely my favorite in terms of looks and voice acting, with the proper game to be the lead in I think she'd kill it
I think some RE fans are too scared of action, and overreact when they see one section where you have to fight mobs of enemies. Action has always had a part in the RE series, and as someone who's played every RE, the horror in the series for me was always about how enemies looked and what they could do to you, not being in a dark hallway with no weapons, or being low on ammo all the time.
Yeah honestly RE has been more survival than horror. I don’t consider a game where they give guns with ammo to shoot at the monsters to be a horror. Hell I’m RE1 they give Jill a fucking grenade launcher. Yeah never once was I actually scared of RE. Played 0-8 and revelation games.
@@luiscasiano4211 Okay well this isn't survival either.
Yeah but this game wasn’t just one section of action, it was pretty much one section of horror with the Beneviento house.
Exactly, in the originals you can blow off zombies heads with a shotgun or magnum, and blow up enemies with a RPG or grenade launcher. Action has always been a part of RE, which is why I find it strange why ppl have this general idea that if they're not scary, their bad. I've never felt like RE games were supposed to be scary, as in trying to spook me at all times. The iconic dog hallway Alex mentions, is only 1 area, after that I was blasting zombies, running around the mansion, solving puzzles and stuff. Idk, I feel RE as a whole is very misunderstood as to what it should be. RE has been successful and relevant for 25 years imo, because the games evolve and adapt, and switch up the formula
cus u never palyed the roginals. you probly started out at 4 or 5 or 6
“hardcore is only harder because the enemies are harder to kill and you don’t have as much ammo now”. That’s where the survival part of survival horror comes in. Enemies are tough to kill and you don’t have nearly enough ammo to kill everything so you have to just survive.
That statement isn't even true though, the only difficult part on hardcore is the opening Lycan ambush, I literally never died after that, you still have all the ammo and health than you'll ever need.
Survival in survival horror comes from being under equipped, scrounging for resources, inventory management, running away instead of fighting etc etc & none of that is in this game.
@@jellyfishtrifle7883 I’m well aware of what survival horror means and this wasn’t survival horror. It has a horror setting, but I never felt tense or “scared” while playing. Even when the baby showed up I was like “oh, that’s gross”. Same for me, I never really felt that I didn’t have enough resources to make it through the game and only died a couple times even on hardcore.
Funny, i don't have to play on the highest difficult in other survivor horror games to feel like i am playing a survivor horror game. If Village need that, than it failed to deliver.
@@helmeiragames that’s because it’s not a survival horror game. It’s an action thriller with elements of survival horror.
Yeah, but in this game it does feel a tad bit excessive since they messed up on the balancing a bit. They nerfed Ethan's knife but also made it so you kinda have to kill enemies for treasure/Lei that you don't really have the ammo to kill. I think the game would've worked better in an RE7 style w/out Duke, while keeping the same amount of enemies and changing the loot from mostly treasure to crafting material or ammo. The only really necessary thing that Duke offers is the upgrades which RE7 implemented through static drops throughout the game, which this could've done easily. The merchant is poorly implemented here. I think they just wanted the game to be like RE4 so much because so much of the game is already similar to RE4.
You missed the part where BSAA soldiers were actually zombie like soldiers.
Guys... I think you all need to replay RE4, that game was a lot more action packed that Village. In RE8 you still had to be really carefull with your resources, not that you dont in 4, but there you had a lot more stuff to blow the enemies up, and we had all the crasy things that leon did on his jorney (knife duel, laser parkour, etc..). And to be honest... I love that, I just love the cheese of the RE games, I think it give the series a unique charm.
Yes.
@@tmerchead1 dont understand the hate the new games get they been written the same with an emphasis on either big guns or crazy action.
100% agree! I feel like it all makes RE what it is, not just horror alone.
@@MissZang411 exactly, for me, Re5, even being 100% a action game, felt more like a RE game than 7. Thats because that RE charm was still there (its hard to explain), and I felt it absent in 7, and 8 recovered it, 7 felt more a Silent Hill game with guns (well... more gun). The characters becoming bortherline superheroes by the end of each game, defeating a over the top manace, was part of what made RE special, even the verry first game ended with a police girl blowing up a giant lab mutant with a rocket launcher (its kinda ridiculous... but I love it for it)
And I did't even mentioned the vilains, that also carryed that super over the top super vilain cheese vibe with them, and I felt the vilains in RE7 lacked that, and RE8 broght that back with a new cast of crasy vilains (Im not saying i want RE to be a comedy, again, the RE tone is verry characteristic, but the RE vilains were memorable in part because of the cheese, not despite it)
No way Village feels like Resident evil 6. It does in my opinion feel like RE 4
The ideas are from 4, but the game is kinda of a mess like 6.
they take 10 minute of Chris part as a proof that RE Village is like RE6
I don't like 4, too much action, but even I must say that this game made 4 looks like the best game in history in comparision.
All 3 of them completely missed the mark on this review smh. They got too blinded by a 20 minute sequence. Smh
Also my explanation for Ethan not being attacked is that he injected himself with the "cure" in 7, only it didn't cure him, but it freed him from Eveline's mind control, making him autonomous.
I still can’t get over Alex as lady d
That was funny as hell in the review
I feel like if chris and ethan tried harder they could've gotten heisenberg on there side without using rose
Agree. I think ther was a real chance to team up with heisenberg. But they did not even try it
@@Revan-eb1wb Dude is crazy... Chris already been stabbed in the back by a crazy bioweapon.
All I can say is, it's a good job YOU weren't sent into the heart of a Romanian village to fight bioweapons because you're way too trusting! Haha!
@@jellyfishtrifle7883 it is just about trying. Of course i wouod not have trusted heisenberg 100%. But trying would not hurt anyone. And rose or jake are bioweapons too. Does not mean you have to be evil or that people like them could never have the chance of redemption
I get enemy of my enemy and all that, but probably a terrible idea to team up with the dude who is mass-producing bioweapons out of corpses and who is clearly unhinged in his own way
RE suffers from living in a Carlos-less world.
It’s so cold.
I would love a side-game with Carlos as the focus. Bring him back and have him lead a sorta rescue team that specializes in fighting BOWs.
Carlos was pretty dull tbh. Even billy was better
Carlos is in this game. He was always there if you listen closely. Lol
@@leightonrud66 re0 was like 8 to 9 hours long compared to the 6 hours in re3. Carlos is funny as hell and has some of the least on screen time if I recall correctly
I felt like playing on hardcore changed the complaints about missing survival horror aspects, I never felt like I had too much ammo other than some bits in the factory
Depends if its a new game plus and if you've already got infinite ammo
Rose is definitely aging faster, the post credits scene probably takes place maybe 2 years after RE8. Hope so, because I don't want a massive time jump lol.
We probably won’t get a time jump-that ending with rose is probably setting up something that will be revealed about 16-18 years from now (2037)?
Yeah but if she's two years older wouldn't her maturity be that of a 5 year old? How is she able to act like an adult? That part confuses me
@@voidburger2989 that’s what I was thinking too about the brain development and her maturity would seem odd.
Cope harder guess we’re gonna see a nursing home re game next☠️.
The baby monster scene was brilliant and it’s by far my favorite and most creepiest part in the whole game..
Only creepy*
If that truly is less than 10% of the game being creepy that's disappointing, re7 was like 70-80% creepy
and the only thing you did was run around it. That's a pretty big tell of the game on the whole if that tiny part is the best part of the game.
Pity they dropped it as quickly as they brought it in.
It's boring on replays though after the first time
It’s like they threw re7, re4 & code Veronica into a blender..... I loved it
Exactly how i feel. This was a 10 out of 10 game for me. I played it 5 times and got every achievment.
Dude it felt NOTHING like RE4 what are you talking about? RE4 was actually cool and had actual memorable bosses.
@@kneelb4chevelle I'm trying to decide if I'm going to platinum it. I've got all but one achievement, mercenaries S rank. I'm just not finding the new mercenaries fun. It's a weird mix of mercenaries and raid mode, and I don't think it fully works for me. The time trial survival aspect just doesn't fit as cleanly with the stage based obstacle course style as you'd think. It's really frustrating to try to build a combo and having to run to spawn more enemies.
Which RE game out of the three does the 50 cal garbage scene come from though? I haven't played it yet but I am having a hard time believing something like that is in this one?
Did you even play it? Lol the entire opening was inspired by RE4.
I love this series and Village was great. I think Alex was way too tough on it, but it sounds like he didn't really play it for himself too much. He mentioned he watched the VOD to catch the ending.
Alex is tough on everything
I hate to say i kinda agree with a lot of his points.
I can't believe he said 8 is 6 in 4's skin. Has he ever played that 30 hour bloated pos re6?
@@adblockevery1243 I know what he meant by that, as in 8 is heavy on the action, but 6 is *way heavier* on the action and overall insanity. Pretty bad comparison.
@@blahblahgdp I don't disagree with him on everything, and his points are totally valid. I just think he goes a little too hard and should definitely play it on his own time in full.
They missed an opportunity of making Lady D aggressiveness and threat to the player amplified for every daughter you killed and moving around the castle got wayy more difficult, Basically letting you learn the castles in's and outs and making use of small tunnels or hallways to avoid and outmaneuver a increasingly aggressive Lady D until the boss fight.
at the very least she should have had some new attacks besides a basic slash.
They should've put her level closer to the end of the game instead of the start. The daughters could've acted as spies and interfered with your progress as you make your way through the other domains.
Even have Lady D get increasingly more volatile the closer to her castle you get after offing a couple of the other Lords and maybe one of the daughters.
But she does roam around more after killing each daughter, that is exactly how it works
16:28 Miranda tests and manipulates Ethan into getting rid of the other lords since she has Rose now. Only Heisenberg seems to realize this.
Why put Ethan through the test anyway?
@@TerraExodus Miranda is a scientist afterall. Maybe she plans to use what learns from him later.
@@kingcobra2858 You mean, studying the mold of a perfect host?
But, I still don't get why she would of put Ethan against her 'family' unless she was testing how the mold faired against her variants.
But, she was kill him anyway. So why bother?
@@TerraExodus the way i see it, she not satisfied with her "children" plus she knows Heisenberg is plotting against her. Making Ethan get rid some(if not all) of them would benefit her in the end. That while understanding mold Ethan's body.
@@kingcobra2858 Maybe we will get more answers from DLC while we wait for the RE4 remake.
OJ when Lady D doesn’t wanna “hang out” with him anymore: “ARGHHH YOU-ARE YOUUU OUTTA YERRR MINDDD?!?!?”
I dont think we needed a spoikers discussion but i'll gladly take it. Just gonna stop playing outri...i mean make some popcorn. 😏🤭
@@Dhbdhjdbd this sin is unforgivable
@@noahatchison6625 😜
Didn’t expect an extended review
Expect these nuts
@@kermitthebanned4745 fuck, you got me kermit
@@exmachine6859 damn he got you tho 😂
I'm glad he did it AngryJoe is a great thing to listen to in the background while you do other stuff
@@kermitthebanned4745 😭😭🤣🤣
Personally, I liked Village more. The lore, small details of the village, enemy variants and background on the antagonist that you can find in game hooked me right away. I found RE7 mysterious but lacking variety in monsters for me. Bosses were good though.
You didn't like the fat mold, or skinny mold? I agree, the monsters in 7 were so boring lmao.
Yeah. I do think 7 had better antagonists than 8, with the exception of Lady D. Still like it more though.
It was far more interesting from a story and lore standpoint, plotholes aside. But I am slightly concerned that they're leaning too heavily towards the 'action' aspect that landed them in shit in the first place before RE6 saved them.
@@Blackemperess re7* hehe 6 is what got them in the shithole they were in
my main problem with re8 was the dumbing down of the gameplay. Exploration was linear, so it kinda became a walking simulator. The item management was removed, crafting didn't require decision making like re7, wether you make first aid med or bullets from chem fluid. And yes you can buy crafting recipes, but it doesn't change much since you can also just buy the ammo from the Duke. Also mercenaries mode and Village of Shadows were much worse than the re4 mercenaries and re7 madhouse. But re8's replay value was amazing, I like 7 more, but I have 4 times more play time in re8
"What are ya buying?" Haha sorry, just something my friend used to say.
Loved that part. Still quote that merchant till this day lol
Cryptocurrency reference?
Hardcore difficulty feels like it's how the game is supposed to be played. You actually have to actively manage your resources and look out for enemies. It makes the game a much better survival horror than standard or casual mode.
Mia loved Ethan as she worked for the bad people before Ethan became infected in res 7
working for umbrella doesn't mean you don't love your husband... but okay lol.
Chris works for them too.
@@grilledleeks6514 she worked for the connections
@@grilledleeks6514 and Chris works for umbrella blue, so it’s nothing as the original umbrella pharmaceuticals
Mia loved Ethan since she warned him not to look for her after she knew shit hit the fan with eveline after she joined the connections. Eveline took over Mia, knew of Ethan from her mind and wanted him to join the mold.
That’s not what he was saying moron. It’s because Ethan is a perfect host
Dimitrescu Daughter: why don't you love me?
OJ: i don't even know you...
A Random Simp: i love you my queen
Yuck your blood tastes like soy sauce
OJ: _You ain't Lady D! That's why!_
I think the next part will be rose but at toddler stage. At least the “puzzles” will finally be on the adequate level and fit perfectly.
Alex: “You have too many bullets.”
Alex: “Hardcore isn’t fun because you have no bullets.”
I thought his point was that hardcore wasn’t fun because the enemies become too tanky?
@@SerinitySack that's my experience
after five full playthroughs, even i hate hardcore
i like the game on standard unlike alex but you can tell it's balanced for it
hardcore and vos fucking suck imo
hardcore sucked even with the infinite ammo grenade launcher
it's a drag that i wouldn't recommend to anyone who actually likes to have fun
Hardcore is absolutely fine. It's only difficult at the start. Village of Shadows... yeah unless you're insane that's only worth doing with an infinite ammo Magnum on new game plus.
Hard-core wasn't difficult, at all. Knowing what's coming next is half the battle, just budget your resources accordingly for the next section and avoid unnecessary enemies.
@@samanthaB98 Dude it's called hardcore for a reason. Complaining that harder difficulty is hard is kinda stupid
Miranda is not the reason of the outbreaks from other resident evil. She was doing experiments on the mold and Spencer learned from her but he wanted to create a virus and found it in africa and created umbrealla and so on and so forth ... so zombie outbreak its umbrella fault, not mirandas
Yes but she was the inspiration for him doing that
yea, no miranda..no Umbrella virus.. that's the point
Uhhhh. She literally trained Spencer. Without her influence he never would've founded Umbrella and done his own thing. The fuck are you talking about?
One thing I don't get is why did Chris relocate Ethan and Mia to Romania with Miranda's village right around the corner. He wanted to use them as bait? Or this is just ridiculous writing.
Ridiculous. Continuity has never been Resident Evil's strong suit
I don’t think he knew that Miranda and her village were there
Yes
It was so Chris could keep a closer eye on him.
and train him
After all Ethan doesn't know that he's a B.O.W
@@jasdeepsingh7874 Im sure he knew... its a 100+ years old village... thye would have search it if they were going to make sure its secure to Mia and Ethan to move near there
Makes sense the baby thing was the scariest part. Their initial build footage shows that was one of the first things they worked on, before toning down I'd say.
I can't help but laugh every time Joe says 'mold baby'
Who said RE7 was too scary... I think if you actually do the research you'll see HALF of Japan!
@@Callmesnake9455 cool. But what they say about the mold babies?
Or when he says 'The Commonwealth' instead of 'The Connections'.
Alex: "I love Resident Evil games!"
also Alex: "I do not like zombie games where you shoot a zombie in the face 5 times and it is not dead"
I don't think you like RE games then bruh
I was looking for this comment. That statement he made, baffles me. That’s literally what RE has always been.
Resident evil 2 remake legit has that mechanic
Yea Alex was kinda braindead this review... his criticism was that there's no tension because it's so ez but than he won't turn up the difficulty because he doesn't like having more survival horror elements?? Oh and his biggest problem with RE8 was the dialog?? Come on man... I usually agree with Alex because he's tuff but fair, but this time he's just kinda tone deaf
@@SaucyLifeH4L the dialogue is definitely cheesy and goofy but yet again, this is RE we’re talking about. A series famous for its cheesy, corny dialogue. And yeah, I didn’t understand his stance on the difficulty. RE villains and enemies have always been massive bullet sponges. That’s the whole point. So you have to manage your ammo and know what times are best to use it. He claims that it was too easy but then doesn’t want to turn up the difficulty because it would be too hard? There’s no pleasing this man lol
@@SaucyLifeH4L shall we remind him of the classic Jill Sandwich line?
I think there's a strong possibility Ethan's model was used at the end out of laziness because developers to this day do still forget that the players are way smarter and more equipped than they're willing to give credit for. I don't doubt that the thought that someone would boundary break that scene never even occurred to them.
Then again the first game has been boundary broken years ago. It could just be them having a little something for people to see.
i think it was just put in as a little easter egg or teaser for the next game. it also kinda looks like they cut out a cutscene from that part. like rose is staring out the window and sees ethans ghost or something
I don't doubt it could be either way. It's Capcom so it being an Easter egg is a big possibility. But it's Capcom in recent years so the flip side is also possible. Until they say themselves I honestly don't know.
I will never unsee that DAMN GIRAFFE !
When they finally remake RE6 there should be an announcer at the start screen saying "Resident Evil...GIRAFFE"
Because of the marketing i actually thought chris would become a lycan or werewolf, kinda disappointed he didn't lol
Right? The cover art is confusing
Same
Yea I kinda expected that too, woulda been wild like you coulda fought him and then at the end than is able to reason with whats left of Chris's subconscious to get him to turn on Miranda and they kill each other.
@@DanielRodriguez-gs2xj well maybe not kill each other 😂 i was thinking chris could've been the Mr.X of village ya'know?
The entire marketing campaign of this game was missleading
Little bit of a nitpick, Chris didn’t know Mia was alive, when Chris found Mia in the game it was pretty clear he had no idea she would be there, he was sure either she was dead or just MIA…ha
He even double checks its her by asking his team where Miranda is
Chris basically said “ I don’t have time to explain why I don’t have time to explain”
Ethan was probably one of the last molded. Lucky for him too since he managed to kill Eveline before she was able to fully take control of him. As for the ending of RE8, since it's BSAA related I hope we get to see Chris team up with Sheva again.
RE8 = RE4 in first person + Ethan Winters.
Incredible game. BTW Love it or hate it but Chris explains in the game that he didn't tell Ethan because he didn't know Ethan was overtaken by Miranda yet.
He was taking him with him to check if he was cleared but Miranda changed those plans.
It’s SO awesome: I like it way better than 7
@@mattcollins3591 I liked it aswell but i do think 7 is better in terms of being a horror experience. Atleast in the beginning to mid parts of the game. While 8 was ONLY scary in the dollhouse with the fetus. And the rest is just pure action.
@@MeldinX2 Yes because it's like Resident Evil 4. With some elements of 7 in it.
@@misterhoobomaster Does not change my point. RE should be survival horror and not be an action game with monsters.
@@MeldinX2 I see. I personally like both styles. I love RE4 and I love the horror ones too (played them all)
When Alex said he doesn't like a zombie game where he shoots a zombie in the head 4-5 times and it's not dead makes me wonder if he didn't like RE2 remake, I remember unloading 1/3 of a clip into them in the beginning of the game and they just kept rising I almost never knew if they were legit dead or not.
Re2 remake was the best they've done for the seriea since 4, who cares if this gaint bore didn't like it.
I think that was what was awesome about RE2!! When they dropped, you never knew if they were dead, if you could run past them. Do you kill confirm or save your bullet?
The tension and atmosphere went up bc of that. Survival horror done right!
Yeah, it's a weird critique. Harder enemies means you need to spend more ammo which in turns you'll need to ration them to survive. He said the game didn't have enough survival too.
@@shouta1255 I honestly don't think he'd be satisfied either way because it's conflicting logic he's putting out there.
@@shouta1255 they stopped caring once the main attraction got killed off i guess
The Aliens from Aliens built the chalice. Little did you know this was all part of the Aliens vs Predator universe!
Capcom are just batshit enough imo
5:50
"It feels like there was a part missing."
"Oh, the Resident Evil part?"
*sigh* is it possible to roll your eyes to death?
Alex made me cringe so bad. You cant review a game by not playing it. Like, what did he even mean by that? Its a survival horror game, just depends on your skill level on how well that goes
Alex is 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 resident evil fan, and it shows. no amount of foggy nostalgic recollection of the original 3 hides the fact of resident evil always being an over the top campy B movie with action elements that ramp up as the player progresses.
Yeah but there is no gradual ramp up in this game. This game is essentially cod with a few jump scares.
Serious direction? Have you played 7 8? Like they're both b movie horror movies with the plot.
The only one that was near 100% serious was probably 6 but even that jumped the shark.
Resident evil no matter how many times it goes serious with the games they always have an element of cheese factor or silliness
Alex- “I don’t like playing zombie games where you shoot them five times in the head and they don’t die” but then he JUST said he loves RE1 where zombies are REALLY hard to kill. Hardcore does make this game better because you ARE struggling for ammo like good ole RE games.
He contradicts himself ALLLOOTTTT
To be fair they really screwed up on not saying that Hardcore difficulty is the best experience for the game. If Hardcore is the real Normal, which it pretty much has been for the past few games, then they should tell you that beforehand.
@@gummibear696 honestly i would say hardcore is not really the best experience for this game
even on my ng+ file with the infinite ammo grenade launcher the game was pushing it with enemy tankiness
some of the basic ghouls took two shots to kill
it seems very clear to me they balanced the game around standard, which gave me a very fun experience for my initial playthrough
@@samanthaB98 nah hardcore is the only way to start
RE1 lover that hate other RE games always contradict themselves.
They complained about Lycan and Vampire, while RE1 has Shark, spider, bee, crow and even plant as enemy
They complained about first person makes RE7-8 not RE games anymore, while their fixed camera (CCTV) angle has been abandoned since RE1-3 original
They complained about cheesy line in RE8, makes me want to give them Jill Sandwiches
They complained about Ethan healing doesn't make sense while in RE1, all main character was immune no matter how many times they get bitten.
They complained about RE8 story. Like seriously?
They want a survival horror experience but also want classic character (Jill, Chris, Leon, etc) back as playable character. That doesn't even make sense, how can experienced veteran like them can still struggle to kill one monster?
I wish i got more of the ACTUAL village, it just seemed too small. I think exploring the village with tension was my favorite part of the whole game. That, and the doll house. I loved the open map kind of exploration it offered.
TRUE! The beginning of the game was the highlight for me.
It really feels like Angry Joe rushed to have this review out ASAP, rather than actually analyzing the game.
Forgetting to mention their opinions on The Mercenaries in the core review, not playing the game beyond standard difficulty because "I don't like when enemies take more than 5 shots to the head and not die" (you mean like RE1, RE2, RE3, RE4, RE5, RE6 and even RE7 in their highest difficulties? Really? You never played an RE game past the baby difficulty?), complaining here AND in the main review that they want more of the classic RE heroes, but when they appear in the game ready to kill BOWs (because, you know, they've done this for decades), they call it "Call of Duty Lycans", failing to explain the story of RE8 correctly...
Just... wow. There's a lot of better reviews out there of RE8 my dude, both negative and positive.
most reviewers play games on the lowest difficulty we should be thankful that AJ at least played on Standard and not Casual. That being said, it's pretty sad that reviewers do this. Most games are a totally different experience on higher difficulties.
@@masque9446 Yeah, I know we shouldn't expect much from a lot of reviewers. I watch AJ knowing that he also does that, but this review in specific felt VERY rushed and dumb. It's not only the fact that they played the game on an easy difficulty, it is also that their opinions have been very dumb this time.
Opinions like "I don't like when it takes more than five shots to the head to kill a zombie" shows that this group's opinion on ANY resident evil game is moot. The game is about resource management. You SHOULD be feeling that taking an enemy out is costing you a lot of your resources.
They said the enemies feel like bullet sponges that don't respond to you shooting them, when this game literally has the option to disarm the enemies by shooting them in the arms/hands or to kneecap them to stop them from coming at you. It's like they didn't even try shooting other body parts.
It's like they wanna go back to the worst era of Resident Evil, where shooting the enemies ANYWHERE but their chest left them helpless and prone to being sommersault kicked in the face. Because, you know, that will make RE scarier.
higher difficulties don't fix what's wrong with this game. You're then just W keying and not using what they added to the game. Weapons and all that. Doesn't make much sense how they revamped the weapon system from 7 only for you to play this while conserving ammo. Why would you want to do that? "Oh, they added this this and this, but on hardcore you have to choose when to use it". Does that not sound kind of stupid to you? Not to mention, watch someone speedrun this game, you can easily run right through the game on those difficulties.
"Play it on hardcore, it's so much better", yeah this, this shouldn't be the case. If the game was good you wouldn't need to play on a harder difficulty to get satisfaction from the game. That should exist on the standard difficulty, because it is the STANDARD difficulty people start the game out on, the difficulty the game was designed around essentially.
@@WutTheDeuceGaming You... really don't know what you are talking about, right?You just explained why difficulty levels exist while thinking you're saying something remotely smart. Nothing more.
1. About the "play it on hardcore, it should be better" argument you tried to attack, you are actually dumb if you think Joe, who has been playing games for years, should pick standard as his difficulty. What difficulty you should pick is entirely dependent on how confident you are on your skills; that's why there are 4 different levels for it. I can definitely see the average person having a challenge and enjoying the game on standard, but not me or people who have been playing video games for DECADES now. If you want to lie to yourself and say "no, standard is the difficulty meant for players like me" when you play games FOR A LIVING and then blast through the game no sweat, you have no right to complain about the game. You're at fault by not choosing something that would actually challenge you.
Edit: Also, if the standard difficulty were to actually be designed for people who play games MORE than regularly, then you literally make it way too challenging for the average player that difficulty should be aimed for. Absolute garbage take.
2. Using speedrunners to compare how the average player will try to beat this game is the most disingenuous thing you've said by far. I bet that you and the majority of your friends don't play to speedrun games, but you use it here as if what they do with the game invalidates harder difficulties.
Speedrunners prioritize the game timer over every other variable and, while a completely respectable way to play, shouldn't at all be a metric of how the average person plays the game.
ALSO, it seems that you think speedrunners just pick a game for the first time and play it like that. You know they play the game first like any normal person, get familiar with the layout and after HOURS of trial and error they start to optimize every section of the game, right?
It is also mad funny how you use average players for an argument and then pivot to professional speedrunners when it is convenient to you:
"Standard should be average experience to enjoy a game, skill level be damned... also harder difficulties don't matter because speedrunners".
"I just saw a speedrunner beat dark souls in 21 minutes. Damn, I guess that game is just easy. Bet I can do that the first time I play it too".
What a smooth brained take. Unless you can play like the speedrunners and understand how you get to that level of play, then just don't mention them again.
3. Thinking that "playing while conserving ammo is stupid" when we are talking about a survival horror game shows how little you know about the genre and that you are just desperate to sound smart/defend AJ. If you haven't played this game or any survival horror game, then please shut up and leave the talk for people who have. If you did and you found it too easy, then guess what? There are harder difficulties that are probably catered to players like you, that you won't try because you love being in your safe space where games don't challenge you.
If you wanna bring up speedrunning, early speedruns of the game got softlocked because players didn't have enough ammunition/firepower to defeat Moreau, so they had to delete their save and start again. You can't just "run through the game". It took a while to balance conserving ammo AND have enough firepower (by upgrading weapons with the money of the enemies you have to kill) to get over the first bosses of this game. On Village of Shadows difficulty, this is THE ONLY GAME IN THE FRANCHISE where people go out of their way to lose some time to get the mangum because otherwise the Urias fight will drain ALL of your resources and/or take way more time to beat. So, even with your dumbass "but muh speedrunners" take, you're wrong about this game being "easily W keyed" in your first runs.
Jesus Christ, you barely strung a sentence that made any kind of sense.
@@augustobs24
1. WutTheDeuce's argument wasn't about Joe, it was about the idea that Standard difficulty is the difficulty that is meant to be played, therefore a player (any player) shouldn't have to play the game on a higher difficulty to experience the game correctly.
Regarding the point about Joe, I think it makes sense he would play on Standard difficulty because he's likely reviewing the game for players in general, not necessarily players who are capable and able to play on higher difficulties, like you are able to
2. I think their point about speedrunners was more about how they added many cool new features to the game like the revamped weapon system, but at higher difficulties you end up not using them as much because you have to pick and choose, thus losing out on utilizing the revamped weapon system. The speedrunning was an example of someone not using the weapon system, which is actually a fair point, but I also see your point that it's a bit like comparing apples to oranges
3. One has to remember that different people like different ways of playing, and each person is attracted to the RE franchise for a multitude of reasons. I don't think it would be fair to discount someone else's enjoyment or viewpoint just because they like playing a certain way, or like different elements of the game. This third point is likely the crux of the annoyance you feel with AJ and Deuce's arguments, and why they may not have articulated their opinions with that fact in mind.
I think both you and Deuce have sound points, but I would probably not attack another person while you're making your arguments, since it (unintentionally and inadvertently) reduces the strength of your points since people may view you as resorting to attacking the person as a way to shore up weaknesses in your argument, and has the added effect of the other person not willing to understand your perspective or appreciate your point of view and what you bring to the table.
“I don’t like shooting things in the head 5 times and them still being alive “ bruh described every resident evil game 😐
This
Yeah. Alex was way off in this review. He was complaining that the game was too easy and saying it wasn’t a survival game but then said he doesn’t wanna shoot zombies 5 times in the head. Like what? Honestly, Hardcore mode is RE 8’s sweet spot. They should’ve started off there.
Something to note in Jacksepticeye walkthrough, you can stagger normal zombie by shooting their leg, then use knife for save your ammunition.
@@GrindEndeavors yeah, I agree. I think this was one of the worst reviews they’ve done. Nit picks they had for this game they didn’t have for re2 remake. For example re2 is not scary at all, but they don’t complain about that. Also on my first play through I felt tension in the castle and the factory (and the baby part). I think they forget that re7 was a jump scare horror game rather than how any of the other games played out. Which is why re8 may be one of the best games, it has the best elements from every re game.
@@FnD4212 Yep, like RE4
Chris' behaviour in this game is very realistic. After all these years of watching people around him die and nothing change, he's jaded, he's cynical, he's just so done. Chris has decided that he's going to shoulder the weight of the world single handedly and he doesn't want anyone else involved. Personally, at this point, I think Chris honestly just wants to die, but he can't find anything that can kill him. So until then, he'll run himself ragged until he finally meets something that can end him.
If it helps, his squad mates straight up tell Chris he was an idiot for keeping Ethan in the dark. And he agrees he made a terrible decision.
Killing what Ethan thought at the time was his wife and kidnapping his daughter without explaining anything is not realistic. It's shit writing.
Lol, no. Reaching to justify bad writing 😂
Pleasenever change that intro song Joe, gives me nostalgia from watching your channel over these long years, love ya'll
Hardcore and village of shadows were hella difficult. I really thought the survival horror worked well on those difficulties.
My first run was hardcore and it felt like a survival game. The way they talk, they didn't play in hardcore for sure. Village of shadows seems almost impossible to beat without guns/ammo/upgrades from a previous save. The survival aspect of the game is there, you just have to select the right difficult for it.
Yeah. Playing on Hardcore was 100% the way it should be played from the get. It was a true survival experience. Loved every second of it. Running through Village of Shadows now, somewhat easier now because of the arsenal you carry over.
@@FirionDude At 11:10, it shows that Joe played it on Standard difficulty. He probably didn't want to deal with "bullet sponges".
If you have to play on the highest difficult to feel the "survivor horror" vibes, than the game has failed as a survivor horror.
@@helmeiragames I don't think so, it's just that the lower difficulty setting are for those who don't have the time to play it for long sessions or just want to get to the story.
For those wanting the "full experience" should play these kind of games at the hardest difficulty setting.
Should they have a “Scary Mode” you can turn on or off?
They basically admitted they want to sell more copies so they softened the horror.
Can't tell if you're serious but thats too much unnecessary work for the developers
Yeah they honestly just added that statement because they realized that the game just wasn't very scary??.. 7 wasn't even that scary. 7 VR was I'll get that lol.. but VR horror is easy.
@@hypeman1825 there are people who hate the horror aspect of RE.
And won’t buy the game if it’s too scary. Unfortunately RE9 will probably be even more like RE6
@@nachocheez9690 it might be too much work. Especially when it comes to an atmosphere of horror. I don’t think removing all the jump scares would be that much work however.
@@DjSaltyDog Fine enough for me?. As long as it's fun then I'm not angry. For as dumb as RE6 was.. it was definitely repayable lol. Absolutely not scary in the slightest but whatever.
Just be one thing or the other. Or you'll get another RE3 remake.
i liked this one more than 7. I just love games in a snowy setting. The pacing was in Village pretty awesome. It was not the scariest i agree. But it was more fun than part 7. I don’t do ratings (theyre lame) one person likes different things in a game than someone else.
I prefer 7 but I'm not mad at 8 at all. Was alot of fun. Felt like RE4 in 7s skin
@@keatonburson2996 “felt like RE4 in 7’s skin” now THAT’S something I can agree on.
Chris is played by Carlos voice actor Jeff Schine (RE3R)
Daniela and Elena is played By Jills actress Nicole Tompkins (RE3R)
Alex missed the mark. He clearly hasn’t played games like resident evil 4. Which obviously this game took huge inspiration from. And he’s talking like it’s a complete action game. It’s DEFINITELY still a horror game. And hates that you can’t kill the zombies 1 shot in the head. But cleaaaaarly hasn’t played RE2 which takes MORE shots to the head and it’s one of the best games. Plus the last section and couple hours is the best part of the game btw. Dialogue is always cheesy we love that shit in our resident evil.
Right. This pretty much felt like RE4 with RE7s skin. I still prefer 7 but I had a great time with this one. RE2 remake enemies take hella shots. That game was also titts
Mirenda wanted to test Ethan to see if he could fit in the family I think. That's why she helped him as the old lady.. I'm not sure though, just a semi-wild guess.
That's what Heisenberg said as well but then after Ethan kills Heisenberg Miranda just kills Ethan by ripping his heart out. So I don't know what
Exposing weakness so Eva would not have it
All I can think of is that mother miranda wanted the others out of the way first before killing Ethan
Fun fact: "cadou" means "gift" in Romanian.
and is also pronounced close to the french word cadeux, which means the same thing as gift
In Persian too. We say cado or کادو
@@MedalionDS9 not to be that guy but ima hit you with the quick “it’s actually called cadeaux”
@@dom5652 fair enough, i spelt it wrong but i know it was a similar word
Neat
The girls represented different emotions. The girl that asks if you love her was joy iirc. Matched her mask.
Miranda was using you to kill the kids. Heisenberg literally tells you that. (To answer that question)
Yeah, no I think they just used pheromones like the note said.
But there were 4 masks and only 3 girls.
@@F7HFL But there were four women. Mask of Pleasure for the daughter that wanted love, Mask of Joy for the daughter that loved the thrill of the hunt, Mask of Sorrow for the one that was disappointed in the other sister, and Mask of Rage for Lady D.
"I don't like playing hardcore because zombies take too many bullets to kill" they're not zombies they're lycans. What the hell do you expect??? 🙄
I sometimes agree with them regarding other game genres but for horror games, people have better options when it comes to reviewers. 🤦
so them being Lycans changes the fact...how? Besides wtf are Lycans even doing in a RE game? it's fucking stupid.
@@lostconciousness4255 so zombies are not stupid? Even though zombies aren't real? Wow 👏 you think RE7 had zombies? They were mold mutants ffs.
I can’t wait for the “Alcina’s 555th Birthday” DLC where we have to gather stuff for a birthday date with her.
They didn't address the most important plot point of the series.... Chris trying to continue his bloodline. So that's automatically a 0/10.
Leon is off with Claire somewhere making a better Bloodline.
@@cjmk5923 claires probably dead, we haven't seen her at all since code veronica
@@teezy3535 Revelations 2
@@teezy3535 Claire isn't dead. She survived at the end of the spin-off game, Resident Evil Revelations 2.
With how 8 ended I could see Chris being the next protagonist, taking his fight to the BSAA with his WHS. Though I do want a new game with Leon
I know what some devs have said about focussing on Rose but still, They know how the fanbase feels about the Winters and that's why they put that message at the end. Sure Rose will be part of the plot but I see her as an NPC. I don't see us playing as a teenager and doing a time jump is kinda meh. In the future maybe she'll be playable like Sherry Birkin was in RE6.
Plus Rose would be super broken to play as with all her abilities that she knows she has. It's like people saying "Play as Ciri next in the Witcher 4". You wouldn't have a game. Unless they retcon/nerf everything and get rid off the original story beats.
False
Oh no twistedmetalplayer21 said it's all false so it's fact, pack it in boys. What was I thinking, twistedmetalplayer21 is always right about everything, Why do we even bother?
But how are you gonna make a survival horror game with Chris and leon, games like re 5,6 and Chris's section in 8 is exactly what would happen in those scenarios then again maybe you like action packed RE games so you'd like that (not that theres anything wrong with that)
@@Mr.Scott86 You can have survival horror with any of the classic characters. No idea what you're talking about, they simply have to make it SH. No one is forcing them to make it more action just because they were in 5 and 6. Plus it's foolish to not use the huge cast of characters they already have and people love, where it's been years since we've last seen them
@@dblundz I think the point is, we couldn't have survival horror with the classic characters because it wouldn't make sense, they've gone all over the world fighting zombies and monsters for 20+ years, theyre used to it, they're all basically super cop mega soldiers, nothing is an obstacle for them anymore...
I mean just look at Chris in RE8, he blasts his way through the whole village in 5 minutes it takes Ethan like 10-12 hours, look at Leon in RE4 and RE6, literally quipping and joking with monsters, doing sick back flip kicks and dual wielding handguns like god damn Max Payne, there is NO horror or suspense for these characters anymore, it's literally just another day at the office for them.
That baby scene!! Jesus Christ haven’t been that scared in a game since I played the PT trailer. More of that is definitely needed
I think Mia did love Ethan, genuinely but she was complicit in creating bio weapons at the same time. Those two aren't mutually exclusive, a person creating bio weapons can still love someone and have a normal life when they're off the clock.
She didn’t
For me this is an upgrade on 7 which literally had 1 enemy type other than the bosses... and the entire boat sequence was awful. Do people forget that?
Sorry i remember a second enemy type im RE7... the exact same mould but fatter
Boat part! Yes. Terrible part.
I'd like to point out that Evelien is like "Oh Ethan, you died at the Baker house three years ago and now you are a mold person!" meanwhile Mia got an Axe to the neck and shot several times and she's just fine.
Ethan gave Mia the antidote near the end of RE7 not knowing he was infected as well
Uh, yeah. Mia is also a mold person. She spent a few years at the Baker Estate.
@@devindalton4688 no shes not she was an infected she never died just infected while Ethan DID die, Mia's regeneration was due to the mold which was cured at the end of 7
@@Mr.Scott86 Being infected is what being a mold person means, yeah.
@@devindalton4688 but she got the cure, so she's not infected
I can tell you guy's aren't as big a fan as you think you are. The story implications were pretty good, as well as playing as Chris, he was a complete badass as always, gave me chills playing as him.
I respect your opinions and criticisms though.
Joe you missunderstand one Plot Point.
The Mold has nothing to do with the Viruses in the Resi universe.
In Mirandas Lab is this Note about Spencer and it says that Spencer work with Miranda for Years but Miranda only wants bring one Person back to live(her daughter) and Spencer wanted chance the World etc....
Then he mentioned he found the "Progenitor" Virus in Africa(Resi 5) and this Starts all the things.
We've played as Leon, Chris, Claire, and Jill so many times. Let a new story be told. That's what I liked about Ethan in 7. He didn't have a "been there done that" attitude to what was on screen. Would love to play as Rose in 9. The time skip sets us up for a lot of new possibilities.
I loved the game but a lot of it felt rushed through. You literally do the equivalent of walking into House Beneviento, slapping Donna to the floor, and then leaving. Lol
‘Murdering
Yeah that part gets old once you play the game more than once.
Ada Wong almost appeared in the game but cut. She would be in the village to investigate & would've saved Ethan from the 4 lords too.
And Jill Valentine just went extinct.
@@lokekennee8850 maybe she'll return in 9
Most of the time you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing nobody.
I recommend people to play the game on hardcore. It is a sincere survival horror experience that way.
I kinda wish the Hag should’ve been a separated character from Miranda and being the penultimate boss and transformed into a mold version of Grim Reaper according to the Village Of Shadows book. Having her own army of the mold version of dark magicians/sorceress would be an awesome addition as well, similar to the cultist enemies from RE4 game.
I kinda also wish they should’ve added more enemies for Moreau’s stage where a bunch of mold mermaids and mermen lurking and swimming around the lake. Now I really hope to see a new DLC for RE8 in the future.
When we can play as Rose with super powers, its like a new Parasite Eve. Lol
Just not 3rd birthday lol
And there goes Resident Evil again
Fuck now I want a crossover
If they want to keep it horror oriented (or at least half-horror half-action), Rose will be a main plot character, but not the playable character.
Maybe Mia? She had military training already.
I really hope not
BRO I really can't understand how yahll did a review on the game in the light around a whole bunch of people. How do you get the full effect of a horror game sitting right next to someone
Personally I felt 7/10 was a little low, I was thinking more so 8-9/10
6/10
@@viviennewestwoodruinedmylife What the hell do you mean a 6/10?
Agreed, I think this game balanced horror and action nicely. I don't think Joe remembers the last 40% of Re7 which wasnt that great.
9/10 for me
He gave it a 7 because I think he said the games story wasn't all that great.
The Duke actually mentions The Merchant from RE4
atmosphere > tension.., and if u want more tension, turn up the difficulty xD
(and play alone for more tension..)
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Miranda helped guide you as the old lady because Heisenburg was right, she wanted you to kill off her failed experimental "children" and gather the parts of rose for her.
Why would she want you to gather the parts for her when she was the one who gave the parts to them?
I feel like 10 will be the one Resident Evil game to bring back everyone. 10 is a very important number.
Yes.
The Roman numeral.
10?
Nah, imagine Resident Evil 13.
They gotta bring their A game for that.
Rumour says that RE9 will be the final act of Ethan's story and the final numbered resident evil game.
Happily surprised you guys did an extended discussion for this game!
Alex’s take on this game is misguided. Resident evil hasn’t been pure horror since 1 and 7, not even 7 keep the horror all game. Not even the animated movies have been pure horror, Resident evil is an action series with horror elements.
I feel people forget how the end of the original RE 2 basically turned into a shooting gallery, and RE 3 being a survival horror with action being much more of a focus. Code Veronica jumped the shark pretty crazy too.
what horror? since when was a SINGLE resident evil scary? if anything they were filled with tension. people really confuse them because they played those games as a kid while those games were meant for adults (which are scary for kids, yes, but not for adults, it would just be filled with tension). nostalgia blind people like Alex really should take off those rose tinted glasses. even the enemies in older games were tanky as hell, you had to be greedy with your ammo. alex said that he doesnt want that enemies to take more than 4 shots while enemies in the older games LITERALLY CAN SURVIVE MORE THAN 4 SHOTS, hypocritical af. if alex wants to criticise a game then please with good arguments and not in form of a temper tantrum. from what i heard from alex, he just wants to shit on this game for the sake of shitting on it.
@@brian.jrmontoya3227 also yes i agree with you guys.
its also really obvious he didn't play it
I don't understand people saying this game is too easy. I played on standard and I was always running out of ammo and health for at least the first half of the game. Any time I built up a surplus, there was a boss fight or hoard right around the corner to deplete all my resources. I routinely had 0/0 on my ammo display, especially for the shotgun.
Now, I do tend to stand and fight instead of run, but I'm a decent shot and don't miss THAT much. I dunno, I felt like I was playing a different game than what everyone else was describing as the only time I had a surplus of ammo that wasn't immediately used up was in the last 20% of the game.