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Belting The High Notes with Complete Vocal Technique (CVT)
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2021
- Authorized CVT teachers Aaron Perry and Ivan Mihaljevic talk about what Belting is and how to do it safely with the help of CVT diving into the Overdrive and Edge modes.
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Aaron Perry: aaronperry.de/
Ivan Mihaljevic: supersonicsong...
Our earlier video on Getting Started with CVT: • Getting Started with C...
Wikipedia definition of Belting: en.wikipedia.o...)
Quoted scientific papers:
Schutte, Miller (1993): www.sciencedir...
Titze et al (2011): www.researchga...
McGlashan, Thuesen, Sadolin (2017): www.sciencedir...
Side Effects song Ivan promised to link: • SIDE EFFECTS - Don't T...
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The youtubers from the vocal hub SHOULD recommend this channel, you guys deserve more views.
Excellent video about Belting... For future videos i think will be great to talk about the Other Modes, specially Neutral and Density possibilities in that given mode.
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Sounds like a good plan! Thanks for the suggestion
I was waiting for that “you can let us know what you want to know” 🤣. I think a cool thing would be hearing how you do “metal messa di voce” - so basically sustaining a note on a single vowel (I understand it has to be bent for different modes) and going non-metalic, more metallic, full metalic back to less metalic and back to nonmetalic - like neutral to curbing to overdrive back to curbing and back to neutral. Would be interesting to hear also “density messa di voce” and also “hold messa di voce” as well as “twang messa di voce”. And to hear it with different volumes. Yeah I know - I am a freak 🤣. Loved your first two videos.
A nice, talented, hard working, smart freak 😀
Cool idea! It was a bit beyond the scope of this video as messa di voce wouldn't exactly be thought of as a belt (except for the loud portions possibly). We did some examples of that in our previous video - Getting Started with CVT. We might do some more tips on that at some point, thanks for the suggestion!
I'd also like to point out that medium volume Overdrive and Edge are also possible, so no need to go through Curbing for the transitions unless that's specifically the sound you're looking for.
@@RockVoxYT I see. First of all thank you very mich for the reply. I am homestly interested in all densities of neutral with air and all densities of edge but I thought other people might be interested in something else so why not do all the posibilities? 🤣
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@@SamuelNovota that's a good future video idea! thank you!
Liked, subscribed and here comes the comment: THANK YOU!!! I absolutely LOVED the way you explained everything. You should have seen me sitting in front of my computer, hitting "pause" every couple of seconds to take notes 😆
Someday I will be able to afford the 3-Year CVT Singer/Singing Teacher Diploma Course. For now I will stick to the book/app and to your videos. And of course, I will practise like crazy!
You guys were having too much fun with the little child and twang sounds xD
Thanks ! Very interesting to understand the difference between overdrive and edge.
Thank you for these videos guys!! I hope I'll also master CVT in the future :D
Great video guys. This really helped me with a song I was struggling with, in overdrive. Edge made it so much easier reaching those high notes.
Still loving you ivaaan
Super interesting video guys, thanks for sharing ✌️ waiting for the next one
Yes, this is what I'm talking about!
Rock on🤘🤘🤘🤘
Great video!! It would be awesome if you could make other one talking about curbing!!! It's the hardest mode for me! Thanks
We feel you as we're both quite Overdrive and Edge oriented singers :)
Anyway, we have something in plan for the next video that you might enjoy ;)
Thank you for the video.
But a time stamp will be nice addition.
Great job
I would love to seen some videos that go over songs by great singers and explain what they are doing at each part. Singers that I would like to see a video on are James Brown, Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett...
For real it would be great to see a video on these people since no one does a video like that for these people period
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At last I found some voice nerds who don't afraid to seem nerds:)
Hahaha, we're toning it down a bit to make it accessible. We can get a lot nerdier than that :D
@@RockVoxYT Oh, I'd love to hear that:)
Do you have any specific questions? I've been thinking of maybe doing some shorts answering specific questions. Or maybe a special like "Nerd Wednesday" :D
Great video please make every CVT terms separately 🇳🇵❤️
Thank you Neesan! We did a basic overview of most of the terms in the previous video. Explaining every term in detail would be kind of like trying to recreate the CVT App in video form, which is not our idea. We recommend getting the CVT App for getting the full explanation of all the concepts and lessons with an authorized teacher if you need help with your practice.
Our idea for the channel is more about tying in and translating certain concepts singers often talk about with CVT and giving some ideas on how to get there with CVT tools.
Okay I'm also learning basic CVT from videos and Pdf thanks for this precious video hope you will keep uploading further more ..love from 🇳🇵
i love your videos it help me a lot
but i have some questions😊 what is support energy ？is it a certain action or how can we add support energy
Support energy is basically the intersection between movement and resistance. Upping both parameters increases the energy you're using to produce the sound. So any time we talk about increasing the support energy, we basically mean maintaining the movement of the abdomen while also increasing the opposition to it, so that it's harder to move.
Hey guys, great video and a great demonstration of the technique you speak of. I was wondering, is everybody able to learn this particular technique? I've discovered CVT a year ago, I'm a 24 light tenor, all my life I've only been able to produce "powerful" "metallic" sounds above A4 by pushing a lot, but I always felt that's really inefficient since it makes my voice really tired and it's like I'm stuck in a really held back curbing mode. The problem is that every time I try singing above A4 in Overdrive or Edge I can't seem to do it, my voice just breaks and the sound becomes airy instead of ringy and metallic, like yours. And my body REALLY wants to apply that push In order to get some air support and volume if I try any sound above A4.
What exercises would you recommend for a singer that's "STUCK IN CURBING MODE". Is my age a factor? Am I perhaps too young and my voice isn't fully developed? Is it real that any male can learn how to belt above G4 in Edge Metal? Or that means that A4 is the top of my metallic range and I should transition into something like Neutral without air or like a "twangy falsetto" above A4? Thanks in advance, you guys are great!
Yes, we do believe everyone can learn to do it! I don't think you're too young for it, there are many young singers singing high in Edge and Overdrive. Without hearing an example, it's hard to say exactly what's wrong, but some of the common mistakes guys make with high Overdrive and Edge attempts are not raising the larynx enough, locking the support and pushing too much, not having the "bite", too dark overall sound color, not investing enough energy (which is the opposite of pushing too much, but there are singers on both side of the spectrum).
@@RockVoxYT Thanks for the answer! I'll keep on trying then.
@@RockVoxYT Hey guys, again, thanks a lot for answering, I was wondering, is there any way I could show you what I'm doing? Maybe an e-mail or another platform? So I could decide if I want to take lessons with you? Anyway just let me know. Great videos either way, I already shared it with my contacts interested in singing.
Absolutely! You can find our contacts in the video details!
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Dio - edge
Hetfield- overdrive
So basically if I understand this. Each of the modes has certain sets of Vowels. Now watching your examples of Queen at the end, if you are in Edge mode, you need to modify the vowels in the words of the songs, to fit in with the Edge Vowels and indeed with any Mode you want to sing in, you in effect take the line from the song, and keep the underlying set of vowels through the phrases?
Yes! You can also choose to change modes to keep true to the spoken pronunciation, but then you need to be aware of the limitations of all the modes you go through. If you change modes a lot in the middle of the phrase, it's usually best to stick to medium volume where all 3 metallic modes will work. However, if you want a part really loud and powerful, you will either need to pull back the volume on certain vowels that land in Curbing or you'll need to modify the vowels towards something that allows you to keep the volume up.
I'm currently editing our newest video which is us answering viewer's questions and it includes a similar one you posted earlier, so you'll find a longer reply with some sound examples there :)
Great video, guys!! Can you make a video about how to sing on that curbing character. I can do an Bb and B4 with certain easy in overdrive, but can't get close to it with curbing.
Great suggestion! We've been very late with our next video, but it will be out later today and will partly address the thing you're asking about :)
@@RockVoxYT Awesome, guys! I really appreciate this. You will go to heaven 🌿
@@natanaelnoga2739 It's up! Check it out on our channel :) It's the "mixed voice" one
Hey guys, thanks for the fantastic content!
I got the book, and it refers to a CVI discussion forum, but there’s nothing at the referenced link.
Do you know where any active CVT discussions can be found? Doesn't seem like there's much going on at the obvious destinations like Reddit.
Cheers!
The forum has been long gone at this point. There's a Facebook group called Vocal Technique Group which is run by CVI, so you can try there!
@@RockVoxYT Will check it out. Thanks!
how to belting for 15 songlist?
Hi, I realize this is an old video, but I found your comment about a “high back tongue position” very insightful. The back of my tongue always seems to collapse and compress on high notes, limiting my range. I can’t seem to consciously control it, are there any exercises you recommend? Thanks!
Imagine holding a pea between the back of the tongue and the soft palate!
Also, you probably already do it in the speaking range when you say EH, so you can start from there and train going higher.
People also often use the NG exercises to train this tongue position.
@@RockVoxYT Thanks, makes sense!
I used to think what I'm doing was twang, but I'm starting to notice that twang sounds different altogether. Like in all deomstrations I see of it. Twang sounds much more unpoetic and quaint. There is yet another quality called ring that I find very central in singing. Its most typical use is classical music. It's often taught as a dopey voice like Kermit the frog, which is also far from what ring really is. It has a similar, yet distinctly different coordination. I wonder how many types of resonance there actually are and which combinations of parameters cause which timbre. I really wonder, how what I call twang and ring relate to CVT.
Hi Fid! Have you seen any lectures from Kerrie Obert on this topic? She's describing two different kinds of narrowing which she now calls anterior to posterior narrowing and lateral to medial narrowing, but previously she used to call them ring and twang respectively. I'd recommend checking out one of her lectures on UA-cam to see if that describes the things you are perceiving.
@@RockVoxYT thanks for the tip, I'll look it up!
I've experimented a bit with what everyone seems to call "twang" and it cleary is mutually excluding, because it's on the same spectrum with "ring". One can make a transition from twang to ring where the dominant resonance gradually shifts to lower frequencies, the felt location of the sound shifts from the nasal cavity towards the laryngopharynx and the larynx drops slightly. It's useful to add to the sound in moderation and it's cool to have that tuning option, but neither of it is what I initially thought twang was and what I consider the most important source of brightness and definition in my voice.
Does cvt's book(pdf) follow copy right rules?
As far as I'm aware, there is no legal pdf version of the book! And yes, the book is under copyright
Honestly i think in the world of singing people are too polite with certain singing pedagogies systemically calling belting to what its not and vocal coaches reacting to actual beltings claiming thats what they do. Sls sounds are beautiful, but every time i found a video on the topic of belting i cringe so hard. Its so obvious it doesnt sound as powerful as other sounds that it becomes kind of a lie, and its kind of toxic since its coming from the authority wich is the coach. I dont know, i dont really think theres bad blood behind it, and i guess cvt is "elegant" in a way for setting itself apart from all the noise using redefined terminology and stuff...but at the end of the day theres a lot of people not telling the entire truth and it shouldnt be hurtful to say that more clearly. Idk, as a singing learner im kinda tired of the situation and how it used to confuse me. Thanks for your work