Brahms Concerto no.2 B flat major op.83 Curzon C. ,RAI Torino,Gracis E 181166 Torino

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  • @GouganeBarra-u4t
    @GouganeBarra-u4t 5 місяців тому +3

    Ah Curzon, the man with the magic hands... a wonderful display of bravura and musicianship. All played long before I was born. I feel privileged to have experienced this concert through You tube.

  • @giovannirivoira5496
    @giovannirivoira5496 Рік тому +1

    Clifford Curzon a Torino!!!me lo ero perso.ora grazie a lei lo posso finalmente ascoltare!!!GRAZIE DI CUORE!!!

  • @pernellwhitaker3422
    @pernellwhitaker3422 5 років тому +14

    Signor Chierici tra il suo lavoro di recensore, custode di partiture e ora anche restauratore di video rari sta dando davvero un contributo immenso alla classica. Grazie mille

  • @calalonga
    @calalonga Рік тому +1

    My uncle Ettore, unforgettable…great director, great writer and … superb actor speaking about music…

  • @MrInterestingthings
    @MrInterestingthings 3 роки тому +8

    I've never seen anyone look at the ensemble as much as Curzon!I can't believe this exists ! 1966 !He actually looks at the musicians he is playing with no matter the diff what he is playing see 19:31 left hand bass and later when passage repeats his left hand jumps to the E5 in quiet passage never looking. How anyone gets through the 1st mov and then has to deal with the exacerbating difficulties in 2nd mov .I'll never know this and Bartok2 are the scariest things I know of !At exactly 23:00 comes one of the most difficult octave passages in all 19th century music -played as securely and musically as ever ! Maestro Curzon I noticed in the scherzo with all its leaps never looks at the keyboard no matter where is phrase has too start . I know this score so when at Brahms sounds like a Prussian military Kaiser here like his 2nd Sonata as opposed to no.3 The arpeggi in 1st mov are never clear but the ff fullhanded fast chordal wrist work and all of his phrasing feels meaningful but it's an impossibly fast ,forward 1st movement . Sokolov takes fast tempi in this .I'd love to hear Furtwangler or Celibedache or Klemperer in this . Forceful ,well imagined reading but one really needs to be an expert to know what is happening out of the obvious with musicians at this level . Did Solomon play either concerti I wonder .I know Hess recorded this and played the d minor with many conductors odd pairing her with Toscanini ! Many believe his Liszt Sonata to be the most thinking and he has the most communicative technique . I didn't even know he played the huge Brahms ' concerti but to see their is a televised record of him is just too wonderful ! The Italian radio orchestra .I must find Curzon's complete discography .

    • @paulcrawford1672
      @paulcrawford1672 2 роки тому

      There are 2 extant recordings of this with Klemperer conducting. One is from 1954 the other from 1968. The 1953 is with Geza Anda and is on UA-cam. The 1968 is with Vladimir Ashkenazy. Both are very good performances.

    • @zugzwang2007
      @zugzwang2007 Рік тому

      There are recordings of Solomon in both concerti, including several of the D minor. Of this, the studio recording with Kubelik is the best known and the most thoroughly prepared, between conductor and soloist. The most interesting document, though, is a live D minor with Jochum and the Berlin Philharmonic, where Jochum has his own ideas, including about tempo, but Solomon's playing imposes order in his unique way. The B flat studio performance with Dobrowen is a classic.

  • @dariodangelo8938
    @dariodangelo8938 4 роки тому +3

    Pianista davvero immenso!!! Ascoltai questa registrazione alla Rai tv anni fa, e ora è online su UA-cam. Grazie mille 🙏🤩👍

  • @drh8h
    @drh8h 5 років тому +7

    A relaxed and genial Curzon. He sounds so inhibited in many of his studio recordings. Thanks for posting this.

    • @andrewkennaugh1065
      @andrewkennaugh1065 4 роки тому +1

      drh8h He is bound to feel inhibited within the confines of a studio...😚

    • @drh8h
      @drh8h 4 роки тому +2

      @@andrewkennaugh1065 Curzon was a very sensitive, nervous sort from what I have read. Not like say, the genial and sometimes nonchalant Rubinstein who didn't seem to be bothered by the recording light going on.

    • @MrInterestingthings
      @MrInterestingthings 3 роки тому

      Here Curzon's Liszt Sonata he is not the same man it seems in Brahms or his unparalleled Mozart !

    • @jefolson6989
      @jefolson6989 2 роки тому +1

      Some conductor famously said Curzon was a
      " walking disaster". Naturally a bit high strung and accident prone, but when in a good mood, he was delightful. Check out his interview with Norman Pelegrini. HILARIOUS and revealing.

  • @francoriva55
    @francoriva55 Рік тому

    Grazie sig Clerici per il suo contributo alla diffusione della nostra grande musica e per suoi articoli. Riguardo a questo sublime concerto mi vienbda dire che Curzon e' un altro dei numerosissimi immensi interpreti , ma meno conosciuto... non sono musicista ne' conosco la musica. Alcuni fanno graduatorie riguardo alla grandezza degli interpreti. Io dico che sono numerosissimi e mokti dei quali magari sconosciuti ai piu o addirittura anonimi. Definizioni quali "ultimo romantico "o "l piu grande " , oppure leggere fesserie come " nessuno come lui" ecc ecc mi provoca un moto di fastidio, accompagnato dalla sensazione che in questi casi gioca piu il fascino dell' interprete, la simpatia e altre cose che la conoscenza della musica. Ad esempio in questo concerto mi vengono in mente parecchie interoretazioni : Anda, Richter, Ghilels, Zimermann, Ashkenazy, Pollini, Btendel ,Serkin ecc ecc . Non so dire quello che preferisco : forse tutti !!! Ma non ho preparazione adeguata.... Grazie e un saluti

  • @jefolson6989
    @jefolson6989 2 роки тому +2

    I wish the camera angles had captured Curzon's facial expression. Everything played across his face. He was transported when he performed!

  • @alonsegev7829
    @alonsegev7829 4 роки тому +3

    Wow. Thanks for uploading this gem

  • @berlinzerberus
    @berlinzerberus 5 років тому +7

    Simply wonderful!

  • @armandogabba2769
    @armandogabba2769 Рік тому

    Grazie.mi sembra di riconoscere il caro amico buonanima Mengoli alla tromba. Stupendo reperto.

  • @depfresom7608
    @depfresom7608 5 років тому +3

    thanks for the upload. Curzon is simply great.

  • @huismanq
    @huismanq 5 років тому +2

    Thank you! Such a great pianist!
    Radio RAI Tre did re-broadcast this concert in 2008. It was dated as 'Registrato il 28 novembre 1966'.

  • @zugzwang2007
    @zugzwang2007 Рік тому

    Such a pleasure to hear (and see) Curzon playing this concerto with such freedom and command. Also humour, in the finale. It was not long after this that I heard him in a broadcast of this work where everything got on top of him and it was obvious that not many concerto performances lay ahead. This seems to have been a sweet spot in his career, when he had his nerves under control and his technique was still at its best. Earlier, his recordings show him too often rather prosaic, although fluent., Later, he achieved a simplicity in a few works that was memorable, but by that time he had put away the Brahms.

  • @skyrim7750
    @skyrim7750 5 років тому +2

    Grazie , questo documento è fantastico. Lo cercavo da 5 o 6 anni

  • @larrykatz3333
    @larrykatz3333 5 років тому +4

    Wonderful singing Brahms with humor and without heaviness.

  • @goodmanmusica
    @goodmanmusica 5 років тому +2

    grazie per questo raro documento!!!

  • @marioargentieri1778
    @marioargentieri1778 3 роки тому +2

    Grande Curzon,ma altrettanto grande musicista Ettore Gracis! Mio caro maestro ed amico.Gracis era un formidabile lettore a prima vista al
    Piano di complicate partiture.
    Non a caso Benedetti Michelangeli
    lo volle con se',e rimane insuperata
    La storica interpretazione del concerto
    in sol di Ravel e del 4 di Rachmaninoff.

  • @jamesforrest5318
    @jamesforrest5318 5 років тому +2

    Magnificent; no other word, except, perhaps, GREAT!

  • @Barbapippo
    @Barbapippo Рік тому

    Un pianista molto interessante, ingiustamente dimenticato.

  • @resons
    @resons 2 роки тому +1

    MAGNIFICENT!!!

  • @FILMCOLLECTOR16
    @FILMCOLLECTOR16 Рік тому

    Best piano player ever

  • @Sound.bored1
    @Sound.bored1 2 роки тому +1

    Brahms Concerto No.2 in Bb major Op.83:
    I- Allegro non troppo 0:52
    II- Allegro appassionato 18:05
    III- Andante 26:43
    IV- Allegretto grazioso 38:16

  • @alexandredarrasse5068
    @alexandredarrasse5068 4 роки тому +1

    Extraordinaire Curzon !!!!!!!!

  • @mariarosanovello7803
    @mariarosanovello7803 2 роки тому

    Grazie mille sig Chierici per questo ottimo video...Posso farle una.domanda? A suo tempo ho registrato su cassetta dei bei concerti delle orchestre Rai,con Svjatoslav Richter,Benedetti Michelangeli,tutti trasmessi dalla Rai stessa...Ha idea che.ne esistano anche dei video in archivio?.Purtroppo non credo possibile riversare cassette audio su UA-cam,ma non ho competenze in merito...

    • @lucachierici413
      @lucachierici413  2 роки тому

      Si possono riversare. Bisogna vedere se si tratta di materiale inedito su UA-cam...

    • @mariarosanovello7803
      @mariarosanovello7803 2 роки тому

      @@lucachierici413 Grazie del chiarimento...Ad esempio,ho una registrazione su cassetta del conc di Grieg con S.Richter,orch Rai Roma,,dir R.Muti,e un'altra dello stesso conc,S.Richter. Rai di Milano,Karl Melles...Si può fare qualcosa?

    • @lucachierici413
      @lucachierici413  2 роки тому

      @@mariarosanovello7803 sono tutti e due noti, non ho controllato se caricati su YT. Nel primo il direttore è tale Carlo Muti, non il più famoso Riccardo...

    • @mariarosanovello7803
      @mariarosanovello7803 2 роки тому

      @@lucachierici413 grazie mille

  • @johnday530
    @johnday530 2 роки тому

    CLIFFORD CURZON the best i think so Emperor Concerto with Vienna philharmonic. My 1st Lp in life ir is the BEst...

  • @Yhiith
    @Yhiith 5 років тому +1

    belle, devo dire, queste esecuzioni irriguardose delle moderne vergogne

  • @myth1005
    @myth1005 3 роки тому

    26:42 3rd movement

  • @doGreatartistsgrowontrees
    @doGreatartistsgrowontrees 5 років тому

    Mille grazie

  • @goodmanmusica
    @goodmanmusica 5 років тому +1

    Gracis senza bacchetta, chissà se era solito fare così

    • @christopherhowell3096
      @christopherhowell3096 5 років тому +1

      C'è un video dove Gracis dirige la Norma. Dirige il preludio senza bacchetta ma usa la bacchetta per le grandi scene corali

    • @goodmanmusica
      @goodmanmusica 5 років тому

      Christopher Howell interessante, lo cercherò

  • @elizabethmeyer-cousins1380
    @elizabethmeyer-cousins1380 3 роки тому

    .

  • @NyebolszinAntal1968
    @NyebolszinAntal1968 3 роки тому +1

    MAGNIFICENT!!!