I am just glad that she is now getting a new lease on life. Hopefully in the near future 765, 1225, and 2716 will be brought together for a Special Lima Superpower Steam Fest.
Fort Wayne made her work for the little run time they had it was stated the 2716 felt like it had more power than 1225 or 765 that led to the second guessing of the restoration of 765 but 765 was already well know so they went with it
Reminds you of the EBT in Pennsylvania running those narrow gauge 2-8-2s on their home rails for so many years. Hope they get them running again! Awesome whistles on all of them (7!)
I remember seeing 2716 when I was at the Iron Horse Festival that year. I was 4, so my journey toward railroad facination had only just begun. Proud to be a part of the society now helping preserve history!!
I did. Back in June of 1952. As a VERY small child. Behind the Fireman. On a Class H5a 2 -8-2 from Kansas, Ohio to Fostoria, Ohio . On the Lake Erie & Western / Nickle Plate. 16 miles through Amsden, Ohio & Jackson Hill to Fostoria.
I have seen lots of steam video but this one is by far the very best ever. I have been photographing, riding, recording, and chasing excursions since 4501 road the rails for CB&Q (Denrock Zephyr) out of Chicago in the 1960's. Just totally blown away by this film it just keeps getting better and better. Awesome. Seriously excellent. Really loved the cab ride!
They probably were, #5's was a Ashton custom made replica of a Pennsylvania Railroad whistle. That's a whistle we ought to get for our #3 0-6-0 switcher.
I also saw a video of Mt. Rainier #17 using a custom 6-chime whistle, I believe it was a C&O replica and it was the same sound we had on our Hocking Valley Scenic Railway #33. Look up Mt. Rainier Scenic Railroad #17 1998 and Hocking Valley Scenic Railway May 1993 and you can see how they sound the same.
I think attempts have been made for 2716, and currently they're attempting to restore 2789 or 2700. Honestly I think we need 4-8-4 #614 sooner than a Kanawha, because 1: we already have two 2-8-4s in use. and 2: 614 has more of a history.
They are restoring 2789, but 2700 is sitting outside of a museum in horrendous condition. It was part of some restration project in the 80's that didn't fall through.
2789's restoration is on hold like I said. 2700 is rough looking but the boiler is apparently good. 614 will never run again under Ross Rowland. His reputation is tarnished because of unkept promises.
I have a Bachmann engine almost identical. It can't pull much up a steep gradient and it doesn't have sound but I fell back in love with it after gluing some it's broken off parts back
I love the steam videos here on UA-cam this video by far is the best one, pacer car video Grapher did a phenomenal job and I truly think this is the most video I've seem of the inside of a cab really chugging along. Double thumbs 👍🏻 👍🏻!!
614 should be in that line up! And, off the topic abit, but still C&O.... if UP can restore a big boy, why cant one of the two remaining C&O Alleghenys be brought back to life? There are literally over a dozen C&O locos surviving. How is it NONE of them run? Even 614 is mothballed (and Im sure, will be forgotten about). It should be against the law for our national treasures to be treated this way.
PM Railfan Imagine what a photog it would make to see a Big Boy and an Allegheny nose up to each other for the 150th Golden Spike Anniversary!!!! BOTH, under steam! (Shhhh, dont say anything.... someone will use ugly ass safety cab diesels instead. )
PM Railfan would be nice but there is only soo much money to go around for the projects, I wish some of them could be as for good news though at least 611 and the bigboy are comming back to life in a few years, and restoring an allegany, well where would they do that the loco is absolutly huge, and not other railroad has the facilities on hand like the up to take on the massive locos, it would be a mamoth undertaking but Oh I would love the all and all bigest ever built to return to the rails I think they are both inside from the elements too, so that would be good, and if they ever did try to bring one of the alleganys back to life well I would be soo happy I would problably drool or jump up and down or lose other body functions, lol, though I must ask if she is heavier why is she slipping the drivers soo often, usually it would mean more adheasion to the rails I would think
manga12 As a fact, all locomotive slip on occasion. Either due to mishandling of throttle, weather, rail conditions, and/or even locomotive conditions. Or a combo of the above. However, the H8's were not known to be 'slippery' locomotives. Their great weight was actually more of a hinderance in where they were allowed to run, more than the fact that they ever slipped. As for factor of adhesion, weight is a pivotal factor, but must always be figured against horsepower aswell. In other words, you can either build a loco too heavy to ever spin the wheels that cant hardly move, or one that has so much power you can't get her started, she is so slippery. It was always an engineering balance. Alot of variables go into design like axle loadings, weight of recip. masses., etc etc. Can't really explain it here. Just know the H8's could pull the stars from the heavens. The only two surviving are under roofs if you didnt know. I saw the one in Md 4 years ago. She looked ok. Sitting next to C&O 490! Another loco that SHOULD be operating! Dam what a beautiful loco!
I dont know I just hear that she was always slipping where ever she went, even with a great weight maybe even more so then the 765 npk that she was filling in for.
This is a great video, very well shot and all excellent scenes. The in-cab footage is the best part, especially when Rich opens her up for a minute around 11:00.
It’s such a shame that the KRM let this engine rot for decades. It’s an incredible blessing that the KSHC will fix what the KRM did and get her back on live rail again.
I miss the Iron Horse Festival. I was only 4 when that train was run. Wasn't long after this that the city changed the name and a couple years later ended the festival.
Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society is this from a rail fan or was this something you guys professionally shot and sold publicly? I've heard rumors that you guys have a vhs out there of 2716 but not sure if it's true or not.
She's my favorite! I never ever got to see her run before but you bet darn sure I will if everything goes according to plan with the new organization that's being formed to bring her back to life and hopefully for a longer amount of time than just a few months and days(1981- mid summer '82 for Sou. and for Fort Wayne in the Iron Horse Festival in '96). No matter C&O or Southern garb, she's beauty and racehorse that will do and make a lot folks happy and proud.
I TELL YOU WHAT SOMEONE OR GROUP NEEDS TO DO IS RESTORED THE BLUE GOOSE LOCOMOTIVE IF IT'S STILL AROUND TO OPERATING CONDITION OR AT LEAST RESTORE ANOTHER LOCOMOTIVE TO AN EXACT REPLICA OF THE BLUE GOOSE NO THAT WOULD BE SOMTHING TO SEE!!!!!!!
It if people don't have the money to take care of a steam locomotive than they shouldn't have one in the first place lest we remember what happoned to the Chessie Steam Special locomotive after the fire the locomotive was saveable but we all know what happon to it in the end it lije people don't know when important peices of history are staring theme straight in the face
How many whistles did this K-4 "Kanawha" have? I heard A C&O Hooter, A Pennsylvania Railroad "3" chime as well as a Southern 1 chime in another video as SOU 2716
I'm believe all of the Kanawahs fitted with a single-chime "hooter" whistle. If you search YT you can find footage of NKP 765 wearing the 2789's original whistle. I'm pretty sure this is a PRR 3-chime which, I agree, sounds great.
I did some calculations for 2716 and the parts inside of it are not that old but also taking into consideration how long she was run during her time with the Fort Wayne Railroad historical society and they chose the 765over the 2716 and she was sent back to Kentucky In 2001
Bite your tongue man! Last time NS got a hold of her they put her in Southern livery. Southern NEVER had a Berkshire! A total heart stomp to true railfans! Shes back in C&O trim, she better stay that way! PERIOD!
PM Railfan Well, it's certainly true that the Southern never had a 2-8-4 class, but 2716 did look good in the black passenger livery. It's not exactly a "stomp" to railfans, but more of an experiment to see what a 2-8-4 would've looked like if the Southern Railway had owned any. Don't get me wrong, 2716 looks great in C&O livery, but so many other engines wear black. It wouldn't hurt to see her in the Southern livery again. You know, to give some variety to the 2-8-4 class. Seeing how the two operating 2-8-4's are already black.
@@Milepost93Productions they actually had the engine until 1994 when the program ended. They then sent it to Fort Wayne when they picked up the lease I do believe.
I would love too see a C&O Kanawha get restored we have Nickel Plate 765 and soon 763 and Pere Marquette 1225 and I think it would be great to have C&O berk restored since there are over 12 out there and at least there will be one of each of these railroads running. I hope one day one will get restored or 2789 at the Hoosier Valley Museum will be restored.
PM Railfan There are nearly 60 Santa Fe engines out there and only two run with a third being restored, all depends on money, manpower, and the knowhow to do this stuff.
Great footage, I'm guessing it's been digitally remastered as well. All good cosmetically on this K-4 but the lettering. The fonts are right but numbers and letters were WHITE in the steam age, not yellow. For some reason museums love to trim C&O locos in yellow. I can only guess they do this because they mistakenly think the trim on the locomotives would match the yellow trim on the old passenger cars. Wrong.
You gotta admit though, it does look good. The colors of the lettering is also the issue with the last two surviving PM berks. 1223 was delivered with white lettering and 1225 was delivered with yellow. Eventually they all got yellow, but the debate on which is correct or better looking continues, just like for the C&O K-4 2-8-4's.
***** Pics of 1223 and 1225 new at Lima show 1223 came with white and 1225 did come with gold. However, both were the small PM font. Not until the relettering did they all get the large gold lettering. Either color, to be correct, theyd have to be smaller in size to equal what was delivered. A factory pic of 1229 shows by now Lima was using the gold - large font. Odd color combination seeing how they came with white walls and trim. I tend to prefer the last incarnation - large gold letters.
If I'm not mistaken, she blows her C&O single note whistle. (Correct me if I'm wrong. That's the only whistle I could think of) And that 3 chime sounds pretty close to a Pennsylvania Railroad DRR 3 chime.
Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society good to know also I’ve seen whistles on kanawha where it’s slanted beneath the funnel like on 2736 and some where the whistle is on the steam dome do have any information why?
Follow 2716's journey to restoration here: kentuckysteam.org
Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society I saw this engine at the ky railroad mueseum in 2014
It was on display in a medium barn with no walls or doors I climbed in its cab and sat on its.cowcatcher
Why did you guys choose 765 over her for restoration when her flues expired? I'm just curious to know
El expreso del deporte
One of the most *beautiful* whistles I've heard on a restored steamer! That young guy is a true musician... 12:33
That's Rich Melvin! He was one of the head engineers on the 765 for many years!
I thought that was Rich as well.
Absolutely love how the engineers treat the whistle like a musical instrument
C&O 2720
As much as I liked the southern paint job she had, I prefer her original C&O design
Yea it kinda looked unique from the other Berkshires
C&O 2708
I am just glad that she is now getting a new lease on life. Hopefully in the near future 765, 1225, and 2716 will be brought together for a Special Lima Superpower Steam Fest.
@@SignalBridgeVideoProductions ALCO and Lima built those locomotives.
Replace 2716 with SP 4449 and you still got a Lima party.
Its more like a Van Sweringen lines steam fest...
The wait is over! C&O 2716 is being restored to operating condition!
+CentralOhioTrains About time; she is too beautiful to rust in a shed or collect dust.
is this a fake
Alright, let's hope she gets a longer excursion career out of this restoration than either of her previous two.
The 2716 should be restored to it‘s Southern railway appearance. It looks the best.
CentralOhioTrains- Hey jake, can you agree with me that the whistle on 2716 is beautiful
I can't believe I didn't notice that the sound was used K&l Trainz 4:30
I realized that too! :D Also at 3:35!
Maybe in the near future, Steve will modify his C&O Kanawha for it to have 2 whistles, and have the 2716's passenger cars come with it. Like my idea?
Interesting. :)
They are restoring 2716 this year
EXACTLY OH MY GOODNESS
The most beautiful Steam whistle I have ever heard in my life
Yes, Sir... I noticed the same
100% agreed.
Of all the whistles of all the excursion engines that we have been able to hear in our lifetime 2716's has to have the most haunting sound, beautiful.
That PRR 3 Chime suits 2716 surprisingly well.. beautiful stuff it is!
It’s a Crosby 3 chime
I live in Kentucky, so having a 2-8-4, my favorite locomotive type being restored where I live is awesome!
Love that Whistle!
There is something eerie about her whistle! Sends shivers down my back!!
From 4:40 to 6:30 was the exact engine sounds for the default K&L Trainz chug sound
Beautiful 3 Chime.... I love Buckeyes and Crosbys.
And PRR
@@brianfalzon6739 PRR's sound great as well!
I love the exhaust at 4:02 as #2716 sounds like the regulator is to the roof.
Fort Wayne made her work for the little run time they had it was stated the 2716 felt like it had more power than 1225 or 765 that led to the second guessing of the restoration of 765 but 765 was already well know so they went with it
She should be one of the next Steam Locomotives to be restored. Right now, 2716 is on display at the KY Railway Museum.
This comment aged like a fine wine.
Beautiful Whistle! I watched this video and then couldn't stop watching it. Very nice video.
Idea: C&O 2716 and C&O 614 doubleheading
Thomas Weekley, 614 has to do greenbrier president express first before going back into original identity.
Better idea: C&O 2716 and NKP 765 doubleheading
Even better: Add in PM 1225 for a tripleheader.
People say 614 should be restored after 2716's restoration is finished.
@ 01:24 01:48 02:15 04:03 10:13 and 15:52 I love that 3 chime steam whistle on these magnificent 2-8-4 steam locomotive!!
Yup, PRR K4 3 Chime!
Or Crosby 3 Chime
4:45 K&L TRAINZ USES THAT CHUFF SOUND HOLY COW!
Reminds you of the EBT in Pennsylvania running those narrow gauge 2-8-2s on their home rails for so many years. Hope they get them running again! Awesome whistles on all of them (7!)
She looks beautiful and her voice sounds great too! I believe two authentic C&O whistles
Good video─but I wish they showed the entire train pass (at least once from one day)!!!!
I remember seeing 2716 when I was at the Iron Horse Festival that year. I was 4, so my journey toward railroad facination had only just begun. Proud to be a part of the society now helping preserve history!!
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The 2716's whistle and bell. 13:51-09:02-1:49-2:16
Man, thats all around some killer footage. It should be a birthright for every sane steam rail-fan to get a cab ride in a mainline steam locomotive.
I did. Back in June of 1952. As a VERY small child. Behind the Fireman. On a Class H5a 2 -8-2 from Kansas, Ohio to Fostoria, Ohio . On the Lake Erie & Western / Nickle Plate. 16 miles through Amsden, Ohio & Jackson Hill to Fostoria.
Love the hooter!
Hearing this engine is being restored to operate in Lexington, Kentucky. That would be a great thing.
New Haven.
That is an impressive engine. Nice video.
WOW THAT WHISTLE MEANS BUSINESS!!!!!!!
Hey, you uploaded this on my 19th birthday last Monday! Thanks, wish I could have seen it. :)
I have seen lots of steam video but this one is by far the very best ever. I have been photographing, riding, recording, and chasing excursions since 4501 road the rails for CB&Q (Denrock Zephyr) out of Chicago in the 1960's. Just totally blown away by this film it just keeps getting better and better. Awesome. Seriously excellent. Really loved the cab ride!
Thanks for posting C&O 2716 in better times. I saw the locomotive back in 2012 down @ KRM. It's looking very sad for this engine right. -_-
The wait is over! KHSC is restoring 2716 along with 587.
@@brianfalzon6739 KSHC doesn't own 587, they're just housing it.
Awesome video of the Berk. Just got a model of it with sound in N scale #2724 . Seeing this video makes me really appreciate having got it now.
Damn 2716 put in the work at 4:00
I just love watching her run !!!! We need to do something soon before shes gone forever.
What kind of 3 chime whistle was that on 2716?
I think #2716 should run with the 21st Century Steam program. Just watch out for CSX.
Brian Falzon Almost sounds like Mt. Rainier #5 or Pennsylvania #1361.
They probably were, #5's was a Ashton custom made replica of a Pennsylvania Railroad whistle. That's a whistle we ought to get for our #3 0-6-0 switcher.
I also saw a video of Mt. Rainier #17 using a custom 6-chime whistle, I believe it was a C&O replica and it was the same sound we had on our Hocking Valley Scenic Railway #33. Look up Mt. Rainier Scenic Railroad #17 1998 and Hocking Valley Scenic Railway May 1993 and you can see how they sound the same.
One of these HAS to come back!
Their actually restoring one of 2716's sisters, the 2789.
Brandon Reed Money is tight for the guys with the 2789. They would like to run it, but need the dough to do so.
I think attempts have been made for 2716, and currently they're attempting to restore 2789 or 2700.
Honestly I think we need 4-8-4 #614 sooner than a Kanawha, because 1: we already have two 2-8-4s in use. and 2: 614 has more of a history.
They are restoring 2789, but 2700 is sitting outside of a museum in horrendous condition. It was part of some restration project in the 80's that didn't fall through.
2789's restoration is on hold like I said. 2700 is rough looking but the boiler is apparently good. 614 will never run again under Ross Rowland. His reputation is tarnished because of unkept promises.
C&O 2716 Is My Favorite Locomotive!
Great video!!! and a rare one at that... not many videos out there of the 2716 in original C&O
I never saw this video until now but wow excellent coverage.
Nice to see it as a C&O locomotive and not dressed up for the Southern Rwy.
C&O 2708
I believe 2716 did 4 excursions with the Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society. 2 freight excursions and 2 passenger excursions all in July 1996.
I have a Bachmann engine almost identical. It can't pull much up a steep gradient and it doesn't have sound but I fell back in love with it after gluing some it's broken off parts back
I love the steam videos here on UA-cam this video by far is the best one, pacer car video Grapher did a phenomenal job and I truly think this is the most video I've seem of the inside of a cab really chugging along. Double thumbs 👍🏻 👍🏻!!
Along with the sounds from the New River, the early morning fog and mist leaves you with an ambiance you will remember forever….
1:24 i love that PRR 3 chime that they fitted on 2716!
Wish that loco was still running. Would love to see it together with 765 and 1225.
614 should be in that line up! And, off the topic abit, but still C&O.... if UP can restore a big boy, why cant one of the two remaining C&O Alleghenys be brought back to life? There are literally over a dozen C&O locos surviving. How is it NONE of them run? Even 614 is mothballed (and Im sure, will be forgotten about). It should be against the law for our national treasures to be treated this way.
PM Railfan Imagine what a photog it would make to see a Big Boy and an Allegheny nose up to each other for the 150th Golden Spike Anniversary!!!! BOTH, under steam! (Shhhh, dont say anything.... someone will use ugly ass safety cab diesels instead. )
PM Railfan would be nice but there is only soo much money to go around for the projects, I wish some of them could be as for good news though at least 611 and the bigboy are comming back to life in a few years, and restoring an allegany, well where would they do that the loco is absolutly huge, and not other railroad has the facilities on hand like the up to take on the massive locos, it would be a mamoth undertaking but Oh I would love the all and all bigest ever built to return to the rails I think they are both inside from the elements too, so that would be good, and if they ever did try to bring one of the alleganys back to life well I would be soo happy I would problably drool or jump up and down or lose other body functions, lol, though I must ask if she is heavier why is she slipping the drivers soo often, usually it would mean more adheasion to the rails I would think
manga12 As a fact, all locomotive slip on occasion. Either due to mishandling of throttle, weather, rail conditions, and/or even locomotive conditions. Or a combo of the above. However, the H8's were not known to be 'slippery' locomotives. Their great weight was actually more of a hinderance in where they were allowed to run, more than the fact that they ever slipped. As for factor of adhesion, weight is a pivotal factor, but must always be figured against horsepower aswell.
In other words, you can either build a loco too heavy to ever spin the wheels that cant hardly move, or one that has so much power you can't get her started, she is so slippery. It was always an engineering balance. Alot of variables go into design like axle loadings, weight of recip. masses., etc etc. Can't really explain it here. Just know the H8's could pull the stars from the heavens. The only two surviving are under roofs if you didnt know. I saw the one in Md 4 years ago. She looked ok. Sitting next to C&O 490! Another loco that SHOULD be operating! Dam what a beautiful loco!
I dont know I just hear that she was always slipping where ever she went, even with a great weight maybe even more so then the 765 npk that she was filling in for.
i got to ride behind her when she was on the southern. whether she is in her southern or c&o dress, she is one beautiful locomotive!
Awesome video!!!
Wish I had worked on the railroad, all the livelong day! Just blow those whistles for me! Gives you a chill!
I hear the K&L Trainz enginesound at 4:41
Yep
yeah, for some reason i dislike the enginesound, maybe because K&L reused it so much on their locomotives i just got annoyed of it.
@@maxwellsteam5810 i kinda .do get annoyed
@@maxwellsteam5810 They only have the Frisco 1522 e sound on the k&l
@@maxwellsteam5810 I like it tbh
Sounds nice
What was the funny saying from the guy behind the engineer at 10:02?
"Lock your doors I heard they oversold this run."
Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society
Haha! That's funny!
Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society I agree with Mark10788 on this, lololol. Heads up!!! Foamers everywhere!!!!
That's really hilarious! Are all or most of these guys still around and involved with Fort Wayne and 765 today?
+Trainkid 456 What's his name?
This is a great video, very well shot and all excellent scenes. The in-cab footage is the best part, especially when Rich opens her up for a minute around 11:00.
Ahhh that is some nice stuff...miss seeing some C&O power.
It’s such a shame that the KRM let this engine rot for decades. It’s an incredible blessing that the KSHC will fix what the KRM did and get her back on live rail again.
I miss the Iron Horse Festival. I was only 4 when that train was run. Wasn't long after this that the city changed the name and a couple years later ended the festival.
When she’s completed I hope she comes to Schenectady NY where she was built
3:35 4:41 So that’s where K&L Trainz got the sound from
I still can't believe that there are 12 of these engines surviving, and not one is even considered for operation
+Quasimoto7 www.2716.org
+Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society BOOM!
Wow soon as I say it...
+Quasimoto7 That whistle sounds like an Ashton 3 chime (like Roots of Motive Power #2, Strasburg #31 and Mount Rainier Scenic Railroad #5)
Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society is this from a rail fan or was this something you guys professionally shot and sold publicly? I've heard rumors that you guys have a vhs out there of 2716 but not sure if it's true or not.
She's my favorite! I never ever got to see her run before but you bet darn sure I will if everything goes according to plan with the new organization that's being formed to bring her back to life and hopefully for a longer amount of time than just a few months and days(1981- mid summer '82 for Sou. and for Fort Wayne in the Iron Horse Festival in '96). No matter C&O or Southern garb, she's beauty and racehorse that will do and make a lot folks happy and proud.
I TELL YOU WHAT SOMEONE OR GROUP NEEDS TO DO IS RESTORED THE BLUE GOOSE LOCOMOTIVE IF IT'S STILL AROUND TO OPERATING CONDITION OR AT LEAST RESTORE ANOTHER LOCOMOTIVE TO AN EXACT REPLICA OF THE BLUE GOOSE NO THAT WOULD BE SOMTHING TO SEE!!!!!!!
+Jl Smith Why you screaming at me for?
It's just I here more an more steam locomotive are getting scraped each year because of the carelessness of so many people.
It if people don't have the money to take care of a steam locomotive than they shouldn't have one in the first place lest we remember what happoned to the Chessie Steam Special locomotive after the fire the locomotive was saveable but we all know what happon to it in the end it lije people don't know when important peices of history are staring theme straight in the face
Fort Wayne railroad Historical Society, have you ever ride along with Milwaukee Road 261?
J L The Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society operated the 261 on West Virginia New River Trains in 1994.
Would be awesome if 261 doublehead with 765 in the future.
How many whistles did this K-4 "Kanawha" have?
I heard A C&O Hooter, A Pennsylvania Railroad "3" chime as well as a Southern 1 chime in another video as SOU 2716
The C & O whistles were the best. Reverberating down the New River Gorge gave it a hallowed sound….
Beautiful whistle, hope she has one like that when KSHC gets her back under steam
4:38 this is the sound k&l Trainz used for most of there steam engines chuffing!
What happened to the little eagle figurine that was on the top of 2716's headlight for awhile ?
I sure hope she returns to steam someday
Chris9017 She is being restored again!
There's just something about a Kanawha (Berkshire)!
what type of whistle did they come with when they were new? that one sounds good...
I'm believe all of the Kanawahs fitted with a single-chime "hooter" whistle. If you search YT you can find footage of NKP 765 wearing the 2789's original whistle. I'm pretty sure this is a PRR 3-chime which, I agree, sounds great.
Is it somehow possible that the K-4 Kawanhas of the C&O look very similar to the Detroit Toledo and Ironton's own Berkshires?
I did some calculations for 2716 and the parts inside of it are not that old but also taking into consideration how long she was run during her time with the Fort Wayne Railroad historical society and they chose the 765over the 2716 and she was sent back to Kentucky In 2001
Awesome! Hopefully Norfolk Southern will use it for their 21st Century Steam Program in the future.
Bite your tongue man! Last time NS got a hold of her they put her in Southern livery. Southern NEVER had a Berkshire! A total heart stomp to true railfans!
Shes back in C&O trim, she better stay that way! PERIOD!
Yep
PM Railfan Well, it's certainly true that the Southern never had a 2-8-4 class, but 2716 did look good in the black passenger livery. It's not exactly a "stomp" to railfans, but more of an experiment to see what a 2-8-4 would've looked like if the Southern Railway had owned any. Don't get me wrong, 2716 looks great in C&O livery, but so many other engines wear black. It wouldn't hurt to see her in the Southern livery again. You know, to give some variety to the 2-8-4 class. Seeing how the two operating 2-8-4's are already black.
brian falzon Of course she does.
Zephyr4501 They all do. Every last one.
Chesapeake and Ohio 2-8-4 K-4 2716 is the engine that could.
Didn't NS Lease this Locomotive shortly before their Cancellation in 1994?
@@Milepost93Productions That was the Southern that leased her back then.
@@Milepost93Productions they actually had the engine until 1994 when the program ended. They then sent it to Fort Wayne when they picked up the lease I do believe.
Could 2716 ever bark. I wish steam loco's ran on dreams and wishes, what a great engine.
Moparmadman69 765’s exhaust is sharper and more percussive
If I win the lottery someday I'll try to get the KRM to restore her, but I want to see her done up like an L&N Big Emma :D
Looks like you won't have too!
Funny you say that, cause they just dressed her up like a Big Emma. :)
The 2716 is kind of related to 2765 ( which is the 765
Different builders though..
2765 used 2789s parts such as whistle and other thing to make the s-1 look like a kanawha but they are kinda related
You can use her on the New River trains once that crack in the firebox has been repaired.
Great stack talking 😀
Before 2716's 4th Career.
I would love too see a C&O Kanawha get restored we have Nickel Plate 765 and soon 763 and Pere Marquette 1225 and I think it would be great to have C&O berk restored since there are over 12 out there and at least there will be one of each of these railroads running. I hope one day one will get restored or 2789 at the Hoosier Valley Museum will be restored.
That's what I cant understand RoM, there's 12 of them out there. Surely one of them could be put in service.
PM Railfan There are nearly 60 Santa Fe engines out there and only two run with a third being restored, all depends on money, manpower, and the knowhow to do this stuff.
All depends on the Money!!!!!!
When she does run again, I personally think she should have her C&O hooter instead of her Southern 3 chime.
Most likely she will or kshc will have some other whistle instore for her
& Now Ladies, & Gentlemen! Louisville, & Nashville 2-8-4 Big Emma #1992!
Hope it’ll be back under steam sooner than later
Engineer Rich Melvin behind the throttle of the 2716 .
I can't help but noticing that C&O 2716 had three whistles at the time, how is that possible?
FWRHS, have you ever gained control of Pere Marquette 1225 before?
C&O 2716 and NKP 765 are the only berkshires you gained control right?
We also own a Wabash steam locomotive.
Which ones that?
C&O 2716 is getting a test run
Now I know were the K&L Trainz enginesounds came from
Great footage, I'm guessing it's been digitally remastered as well. All good cosmetically on this K-4 but the lettering. The fonts are right but numbers and letters were WHITE in the steam age, not yellow. For some reason museums love to trim C&O locos in yellow. I can only guess they do this because they mistakenly think the trim on the locomotives would match the yellow trim on the old passenger cars. Wrong.
You gotta admit though, it does look good. The colors of the lettering is also the issue with the last two surviving PM berks. 1223 was delivered with white lettering and 1225 was delivered with yellow. Eventually they all got yellow, but the debate on which is correct or better looking continues, just like for the C&O K-4 2-8-4's.
***** Pics of 1223 and 1225 new at Lima show 1223 came with white and 1225 did come with gold. However, both were the small PM font. Not until the relettering did they all get the large gold lettering. Either color, to be correct, theyd have to be smaller in size to equal what was delivered. A factory pic of 1229 shows by now Lima was using the gold - large font.
Odd color combination seeing how they came with white walls and trim. I tend to prefer the last incarnation - large gold letters.
Would you say that the Kanawha is slightly more powerful than 614?
With the booster activated? Yes. With the booster going, the Kanawhas outdo the N&W Js. When the booster ain't going, then no.
Yes most likely if she is rebuilt to factory specs she will probably out do up 844 or really any 4-8-4
I believe she could edge her out slightly, even with out the booster going, but with booster activated definitely.
@@viktordubowskii695 boosted Berkshires where possibly the greatest thing railroads done same power as a northern in a smaller engine
Question, does she had two whistle settings or different whistles, or was it just how the engineer used the whistle around the 9 minute mark
would number 2716 be steamed again.
who Like to see C&O 2716 all steamed for Excursions.
What whistle is on her in the early shots? I'm dying to know!
If I'm not mistaken, she blows her C&O single note whistle. (Correct me if I'm wrong. That's the only whistle I could think of) And that 3 chime sounds pretty close to a Pennsylvania Railroad DRR 3 chime.
I thought the 3 chime is the Southern PS-4 whistle she wore as Southern 2716.
Harizon listen to ANY audio of it on the SOU and you can tell it’s not even close...
I just realized the chuff sound is the same sound K&L Trainz uses on their steamers
Margo gru as c&o 2716
9:08 it has a secondary whistle?
That's actually the primary whistle plumped up to the air operated valvle in the cap, it just wasn't used as often that weekend.
Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society good to know also I’ve seen whistles on kanawha where it’s slanted beneath the funnel like on 2736 and some where the whistle is on the steam dome do have any information why?
3:35
Nice
so this is where steve lerro from k&l trainz got the enginesounds
Love that chuff!!
the whistle in 4:30 is i think a prr k4 broadway whistlr from k&l
No, that’s the chuff sound K&L Trainz uses for most of their models