The Man Who Killed Batman - Bat-May
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- The Man Who Killed Batman has a great concept, introduces a new character interacting with a handful of favorites, and is one of the best Joker episodes of the whole show. This is a must see episode so sit back as Walter continues his deep dive into Batman: The Animated Series.
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The Man Who Killed Batman is an episode of the first season of Batman: The Animated Series. It is one of the few episodes that doesn't feature Batman as the main character and instead it focuses on Sidney Debris, a new character created exclusively for this episode. "The Man Who Killed Batman" was the 51st produced episode and the 49th episode aired.
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This episode reminds me of the Mark Twain quote - “The best swordsman in the world doesn't need to fear the second best swordsman in the world; no, the person for him to be afraid of is some ignorant antagonist who has never had a sword in his hand before; he doesn't do the thing he ought to do, and so the expert isn't prepared for him; he does the thing he ought not to do; and often it catches the expert out and ends him on the spot.”
That's one long quote, but it hits the nail on the head.
That’s a really cool quote
u talkin bout True Grit? happened to Maddie’s daddy
That would be a great plot line for any anime sword wielding character tbh
Funny you should mention that in the final scene of the Martin Lawrence movie the black knight, Martin's character fights medieval Swordsman and he beats this man by using the sword like a golf club and dunking the sword like a basketball which throws off his opponent.
Definitely one of my favorites.
Fun fact: Harley playing the kazoo made everyone in the recording room laugh.
One of my favourites too.
Yep, that scene had to be done in one take because by the time Arleen finished, everybody was laughing too hard!
Well that was fun! Whose up for Chinese?!
Other fun fact: They were afraid Harley playing Amazing Grace on the kazoo would be seen as sacrilegious.
This episode is perfection. Just... so many good lines.
"No one's that lucky, or stupid!"
"B-but I am!"
If ANY Batman: The Animated Series episode premise could make a great movie (90-110 minutes and...let's say...$125 million budget), this one is it. The opening, then Sid getting passed along for 5-10 minute scenes with every major Batman villain or Batman side character you can think of before the finale. Let's say...Riddler, Freeze, Joker, Ivy, Catwoman, Spoiler, Two-Face, Alfred, Ra's and, finally, Jim Gordon framed by the confession to a straight crime boss type. Director? You probably DON'T get David Fincher out of bed for a straight Batman movie. But if you asked him to make THIS movie? He MIGHT savour that challenge.
The line from an earlier episode where Batman says, "Maybe some punk in an alley who gets lucky!" comes to mind.
Line also foreshadows first scene of Batman Beyond.
Batman had contingency plans for the entire Justice League, but even he couldn't be prepared for *sid the squid*
"Without Batman, crime has no punchline."
*Perfection!*
"Well that was fun, who's for chinese" that line still kills me🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂
Sometime after the funeral,, Harley b like "u still got Robin"
Joker "It's not the same!" and probably back-hands her across the room
@@liarbility568 Knowing Joker, that's something he WOULD do.
@@manuliza6420 I know, right? 😄
"As if it needs one" - Mark Hammill in an interview after reciting that line
One of the moments not mentioned that really surprise me as a kid, Was right after joker realizes that not only is Batman might actually be gone but that there’s no spark to committing crimes without him. Harley shows up happily wearing tons of jewelry wanting to show off for the joker,
he actually tells her to just put it all back.
There’s actually a Batman comic where are the joker thinks he actually succeeded in killing Batman, and Batman is gone for months so he’s sure he actually succeeded in the surprising thing is, he becomes sane. He makes himself look like a normal guy and starts acting like it. Even coming to the point of considering settling down and getting married. But when he finds a newspaper that announces the Batman is back he slips back into his old self.
I love this comic, too :)
There is also "Dark Knight Returns", were Batman was gone for 10 years and there is this mental patient who was just a living plant basically.
When Batman returned and it was announced in the news, he started living again and it becomes clear that he is the Joker, starting to live up again.
"B... B... B... Batman! Daaaarling~" I absolutely love that line :)
It shows how much the Joker depends on Batman^^
It's actually a 4 issue arc. Going Sane I think with different issues have some water theme title. I've read it.
But he doesn't go sane. He takes pills for it. This is similar to what white knight does.
But it's a dangerously bad idea to act like that is the jokers motive. Because it just isn't.
He's also just a criminal. And he's also a crazed killer. He does both regardless of Batman.
Joker had bother killed and stolen without regard to Batman.
They referenced that on the Harley Quinn animated show, but the Joker actually remained with his girlfriend and kids; it's such an hilarious concept that actually does sense on the show, you should check it out.
@Eyelush Billie Normal or brain-dead. Depends on the comic you are reading :)
The whole point of him doing crimes was the opportunity to tussle with Batman. Without Batman, he finds no pleasure in it and it all becomes meaningless.
Joker’s eulogy for Batman is pure gold. Give Mark Hamill a round of applause!
You can just tell he’s savoring the writing & putting 100% into the performance
Life has since imitated art: Hamill retired his Joker character after Kevin Conroy passed away.
J: "Batsy! your ok!"
*batpunch*
J: *cough* "I missed you too..."
There is nothing cooler than seeing Mark Hamill live at a convention (over 25 years ago) speak in the Jokers voice the entire eulogy of the death of Batman, in a room with a full audience listening, a memory that will be embedded in my mind as long as i live.
Must have been awesome to be there
@@wjzav1971 I wish someone had a video copy out there, but have yet to have found one online! it was the same convention that Dave Prowse went up on stage with Hamill not seeing each other for close to 12 years!
Did you get Chinese afterwards?
@@BrentAgeofGrogu At lest we have a recording of the Joker telling Luke he is his father
@@BrentAgeofGrogu Didn't see that one but heres his version from Celebrations
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_”Without Batman crime has no punchline.”_
Mark Hamill has stated several times that that is probably his favourite line he’s ever said as the Joker.
I agree with him. The amount of pure emotion on display from the Joker in this episode, without him being in the typical sort of ‘crazy’ mode he’s usually in, is really something. Seeing that uncertainty of the situation slowly devolve into the joy and happiness being sucked out of the Joker’s life when he realises (or thinks, in this case) that it’s true, and Batman doesn’t turn up, he’s too depressed to even completely go through with the crime he just committed, telling everyone to put their loot back.
God I’d love to see Mark in the booth for this episode. A lot of the special features show him standing and really acting with his body in front of the mic to bring the Joker out, but how different it must’ve been to see for this episode when he had to bring out a sad Joker for the first time.
If I remember correctly, there is a clip where Hamill performs the eulogy on stage.
@@animefan25 oh that part is marvelous, seriously he is the best clown
It also ties in nicely with The Dark Knight Returns. In which we see that after Batman retired, Joker became depressed and checked himself in at the Asylum.
It sadly aged well...
"I served you with a subpoena once. It was a small subpoena." 🤣
what is a subpoena?
@@ianr.navahuber2195 It's a type of court summons.
@@sheridanroad2001 I first heard that word on _Animaniacs._
@@rogue7723 good night everybody
Boioioioioing! Heh heh, heh heh.
Well, that episode was fun! Who's for Chinese?
in an extremely weird twist of fate... I am having chinese tonight
I want some general sow
🙋🏽♀️
No thanks. I don't eat bats, I watch them.
As twisted as he is, Joker gave one hell of a eulogy.
Even the ways he wanted to kill Batman are funny (cyanide pie in the face, exploding whoopie cushion in the Batmobile).
Remember Batman's depression from a few episodes prior? Where he contemplated how he would go down one day, perhaps even to "some punk who gets lucky?" This is that punk. I choose to believe that Batman totally didn't expect this guy to rip his mask off and was forced to retreat to protect his identity and came up with the idea to use him to get at Rupert Thorne when he looked up and saw everyone praising him.
I seem to remember that Batman says as much, that he was curious what would happen if the criminal underworld of Gotham would presume him to be dead, which is why he played along.
I got the idea that Batman was severely underslept at that point, and being so irritable made him sluggish.
I hated that his mask came off so easily. Batman should wear a helmet, not cloth mask.
Matt "Max Headroom" Frewer really left his mark on this episode.
One of Mark Hamill's best performances in his entire career, animation or otherwise.
"For it was The Batman who made me the happy soul I am today. How I AGONIZED over the perfect way to thank him for that. Perhaps with a cyanide pie in the face. Or maybe an exploding whoopie cushion PLAAAYFULY planted in the Batmobile."
That is The Joker to me.
Today is the day Joker cried.
rest in peace Kevin Conroy
"Without Batman, crime has no punchline" this line stuck with me from childhood and is the crux of who the Joker is in my opinion, regardless of what continuity
It’s a perfectly told tale of what happens when too much recognition comes to the wrong person, at the wrong time.
- Doug Walker (The Nostalgia Critic)
Sid: I guess I can't win for losing.
My favorite episode simply because of that Joker scene ;)
"Well that was fun. Who's for Chinese." I love that line 😂
@@KyrinChase its one of my favorite joker lines along with
1. "You killed captain clown, YOU KILLED CAPTAIN CLOWN!"
2. "I'm crazy enough to take on batman but the IRS no thank you."
3. "It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic, ah what the hell I'll laugh anyway HAHAHAHA."
I've been trying to rewrite this scene for Luke Skywalker and the death of Star Wars
Mark is the best joker!
@@katarinadreams6955 you know that Star Wars is not dead that is trying to survive an heal right?
One observation I've heard about the Joker is that he doesn't care about the dead. He likes killing. He doesn't care if Batman is dead. He wants to be the one to kill him. He'll be depressed afterwards, but in that moment he'd be bliss itself.
i dont think it's that simple really, in fact a lot of future iterations of Joker, he doesnt want to kill Batman, but instead break him.
@@UltimateGamerCC there's also multiple stories where Joker regressed back to "Jack Napier". Without Batman around as his opposite.
@@DarthArachnious right, cause what would be the point, it's like Dreamworks' Megamind, the "villain" lost his greatest nemesis and without anyone to oppose him, he just gets bored of it all. Joker probably would be the exact same way, it'd be fun for a while without Batman, but eventually he'd grow tired of it.
Well, I know the big thing in the "Emperor Joker" storyline from the comics was that it eventually turned out the Joker wasn't resurrecting Batman every day just for the joy of getting to kill him again but, rather, his own mental "stability" (if you can call it that) ended up depending on Batman being around. Without him, he has no purpose. It's like that line in "The Dark Knight". "I don't want to kill you. What would I do without you?"
"Dear friends. Today is the day that Walter talks about The Man Who Killed Batman..." I've been eagerly waiting for this one.
The funeral scene was very memorable. I recall reading that the crew struggled to not laugh. Also Mark Hamill once recited the eulogy on stage.
What I will always remember is the moment when Bullock breaks the news to Montoya. He despised Batman and considered him just as much a problem as the villains, but even he is distraught when he has to tell her the news.
Thanks a bunch Walter.
"Sure, I'll getcha outta Gotham... In a pine box!"
Still one of the best lines, imo.
Sounds like something Paulie Walnuts would say.
rest in Piece Kevin Conroy, the best batman i know of.
watching Mark Hamill recite the Joker Eulogy live (I saw a video of it) is one of the best things ever, the man clearly has so much love for this character, probably more so then the one he's famous for
That sounds amazing... lucky...
@@mysticblue0222 it was on youtube im sure you can find it too
This is one of my favorite episodes. Joker showing grieving and at first i thought sid was a henchman of joker. Be honest everyone he's not a bad guy just a dude that plays with the big boys
Looking back, one of the details I remember most about this episode is seeing Harvey Bullock tell Renee Montoya about Batman's supposed death - and he's almost crying! This man supposedly hates Batman, and yet when it matters most he is willing to acknowledge that Gotham needs Batman.
Ah yes. Number 10 on the Nostalgia Critics list of the best Batman Episodes if I remember correctly.
Yep
Yeah that’s right
Woopedoo
@@joegahan7055 what
The eulogy was obviously the best part of this episode and Mark Hamill delivered it perfectly.
"Mmm, from pinching pennies to rubbing elbows with the Joker. Not bad Sydney!"
"*Please*! Connections like him I can do without."
You can also say that this was also Sid's "Almost got Im'," story.
Ah, Sid the Squid. One of Batman's most cunning, devious and intelligent foes alive ;)
Nothing about Matt Frewer's vocal performance? He sold Sid so well! Also, I'm on my rewatch right now, and noticed that "Sid the Squid" was also one of Tony Zucco's aliases in "Robin's Reckoning."
7:20 "...And I'll be Smiling again...just as soon as we take that man, There...and Slap him into that Box, There....AND roll it into THAT VAT IF ACID, THERE!"
I really just love seeing joker being upset that at the fact that his greatest adversary was killed by some nobody. But then again he did beg for mercy and help from batman in "jokers favor" when he thought Charlie had an actual bomb.
I loved the scary vampire theme when Batman appears to Thorne and Sid and anytime Joker talks about a battle to the end,I can't unsee what would eventually happen to him
It's funny how everyone just assumes that guy killed batman without seeing it XD
They saw him fighting Bats, saw the explosion seconds later, then saw Sid holding Batman's cape and cowl. What would YOU think?
And it isn't like they'll b that much remain if he was in the explosion, if any. I'd probably believe it 2 if I didn't know how talented and smart Batman is
There's a ComicCon where Mark Hamill reads the ulogy, that I watched from someone's post on UA-cam. I found it as funny but a touch creepier than in the episode. Even the ending it with the "Well that was fun! Whose for Chinese?" had the touch creepier but still has funny quality to it
Joker: “Without Batman , crime has no punchline”
Me: best line from the Joker ever
"Dear friends... Today is the day that the Clown cried. And he cries not for the passing of one man, but for the death of a dream. The dream that he would someday taste the ultimate victory over his hated enemy. For it was the Batman who made me the happy soul I am today. How I agonized over the perfect way to thank him for that. Perhaps with a cyanide pie in the face. Or an exploding whoopie-cushion playfully planted in the Batmobile.
..
But those dreams were dashed by the weaselly little gunsel sitting there in our midst. The cowardly insignificant gonif who probably got lucky when Batman slipped on the slime trail this loser left behind him. This mound of diseased hyena filth who's not fit to lick the dirt from my spats...!
But I digress. The time for sorrow has passed. It's time to look to a future filled with smiles. And I'll be smiling again just as soon as we take that man THERE, and slap him in that box THERE...and roll him into that vat of acid THERE!"
The. Best. Joker. Moment. Of. All Time.
Then capped off by the best rendition of Amazing Grace on a kazoo you will ever hear in your life
@@darkman060 (sighs heavily) Well, that was fun! Who's for Chinese?
This was Mark Hamill’s favorite episode from the Joker’s eulogy to the ‘Crime has no Punchline’ line and I can agree with him!
Fun fact: For any fans of the Netflix Castlevania series, the voice of the antagonistic Bishop from the first season was done by the same guy who voices Sid the Squid.
He was also max headroom and the neighbor from honey, I shrunk the kids
The way Joker calls Sid "A mound of diseased hyena filth" has to be the greatest way to call someone a piece of shit ever
Rest in peace Kevin Conroy AKA Batman!!!
"Sooner or later I'll go down. It might be the Joker or Two Face. Or just some punk who gets lucky."
“Well that was fun. Who’s for Chinese?” one of the funniest post-eulogy lines 😆
It's an iconic episode and one of my favorites.
I find it funny that Joker planned to kill Sid the Squid in an acid bath at Ace Chemicals given that later on, he tried to do the same with Jack Ryder, and all that did was turn him into a yellow skinned Freakazoid expy. I like imagine that, had the acid actually gotten to Sid, Joker would've inadvertently created a bigger threat than a simple "gunsel" who got lucky eliminating the Dark Knigjt.
Actually, Creeper was around before Freakazoid.
This episode is going to be hard to watch now for some of us, given the sad parting of Kevin Conroy, the voice of Batman
RIP, thanks for the wonderful memories
I love how the joke about Sidney's character is that, While everyone believed that he was a tough guy because it looked like he killed Batman. In actuality Sidney was just a weak, Spineless, Bumbling coward who couldn't harm a fly, Let alone murder a man.
And that's honestly a good thing, Because it shows that while Sid may have wanted to be a mafia big shot, He's actually a good man.
It's also one of a few episodes where Joker doesn't abuse Harley too much. But does show that that he has some sort of feelings for Harley
I always thought he did love her in his own twisted way, given that he's mentally unstable.
@@magallanesagustin4952 Hell if you take the Killing Joke reason why he doesn't want a relationship, it's because he's unwilling to lose someone he does love again.
It’s that look he gives her after she says he really puts the fun in funeral ... a sweet but still twisted moment
It isn't until the "Harley and Ivy" episode that Joker is established as an abusive boyfriend who's willing to throw her aside if he gets annoyed enough. This episode is just part of Early Installment Weirdness where Joker is genuinely nice towards Harley even though he treats the rest of his minions like trash.
@@jlev1028 Joker was also afraid of Harley in their first episodes. Harley intimidated him in Trial.
The performance of Mark Hamill's Joker in this one always makes this my favorite
One of my favorite episodes, and I'm glad to see it held in high regard. I always thought everyone in prison was unaware that Batman was still alive when they praised him, though. I imagined that it'd be a bummer for Sid once everyone realizes he's no big-shot.
"Nearly offed the bat."
The Joker’s eulogy takes on new meaning after Kevin’s passing
Yeah 😞
This episode shows that Joker needs Batman to exist, and that no one can take him out but him
My buddy named his cat after Sid The Squid.
Pretty cool.
Shoutout to Matt Frewer (The Squid). He was Max Headroom and has been in Hercules, The Stand, Watchmen, Supernatural and Orphan Black. Always a joy to watch but never mentioned (even here 😉)
R.I.P. Kevin Conroy
You could take Joker's attitude a couple of ways. My take is that he actually does want to kill Batman, but he wants to do it his own way: something dramatic, grandiose, and "funny." The idea that someone else beat him to it, and that someone was a "mound of diseased hyena filth who's not fit to lick the dirt from my spats!"
Then again, Joker is crazy enough that you can imagine him being 100% sincere both times.
The squid is a fun moniker that refuses to die. This episode remains a great testament to the universe that the show has written.
Arleen Sorkin's rendition of "Amazing Grace" on the kazoo... surely one of this animated series' finest moments.
Also, Matt Frewer voices Sid The Squid. His unique voice delivery gets harnessed in just the right way to make this unlikely guy likable, despite his criminal association.
I've always loved how The Joker actually spits when he says the word 'spats.'
Along with "Almost Got 'Im" and the Baby Doll one, this one is an absolutely memorable classic.
There will always be a connection with Batman and Joker. It’s complicated, weird and crazy but they both are a big important part of each other’s lives. Such a great episode! So true that it has a little bit of everything: humor, drama, deep moments, silly moments, the music, the atmosphere, the lines, the characters, the story. It’s a memorable and in the top 10 best episodes of the series for sure!
I read somewhere online (so grain of salt) that Harley's kazoo and Joker's "Chinese food" line were both improvised, and done in the same booth!
The funeral scene was the most memorable. That and when Sid got respect from the inmates at the end.
This one's one of best Batman episodes. Especially when the Joker butts in.
For me, the most oddly poignant line from the Joker isn't the one about crime not having a punchline without Batman. It was the moment before, when he said: 'Only this time - thanks to YOU - I have this horrible feeling that he's.... really not coming.' The pause and inflection of those last three words carries the Joker's realization that something he'd come to rely and depend on may actually be gone forever. Which was more of a loss to him spiritually than any trouncing he got from Batman himself.
"Without Batman, crime has no punchline." is my favorite quote from anything Batman related ever.
This Ep and "Joker's Favor" are probably my top two--and they both star some schlubby regular guy getting the best of an iconic character.
Man... that funeral scene hits harder now that Kevin Conroy has... y'know... passed.
Perfect mix of tension and comedy in one batch. When people usually talk about Batman TAS, usually focus on how mature it was and this element become more important after the Schumacher movies. But this episode tastes like written by Sir Terry Pratchett himself. Seeing the whole serious noir stories from the point of view of a bystander who comically survives regardless of all odds may a sound like a parody. But this is why so hilarious!
For some reason my favorite moment in this episode is during the barfight when somebody decides if they take out Sid, they pretty much took out Batman. The bartender just watches on as if it's a normal Tuesday but when one of the patrons gets knocked against his barfront he casually nudges a glass that failed to fall so it smashes on the poor schmucks head. The bartender then looks ever so slightly happier!
I use that line every day "well that was fun who's for Chinese?"
6:46 gives me chills every time
I absolutely love Joker’s facial expression when he says “that vat of acid there!” As well as Hamill’s performance of course.
And that "funeral" scene -- one of the best and funniest Joker/Harley scenes in the entire series. Arleen, you created a masterpiece with that kazoo!
Oh god this aged like fine wine
I just think it’s really funny that Sid the Squid is also an Animaniacs character.
I'm pretty sure that someone working at Warner Bros in the early 90s had that nickname and they put it into both shows as an in-joke.
I love the story behind her kazoo performance. Apparently she had the entire cast and crew rolling.
"Without Batman, crime has no punch line." - Joker. Hands down one of my favorite Joker lines. It really shows the relationship not only between Batman and Joker, but about heroes and villains in general. As the old saying goes that even Hamill has tweeted, "A hero is only as good as his villain." This is hands down another fantastic episode and I will gladly watch this again anytime.
The Joker’s eulogy is the stuff of legends.
With the passing of Kevin Conroy, this episode hits closer to home.
5-Star episode. There's a sick sense of humor to the whole story, right down the the ending, that I always enjoyed.
Such a brilliant episode we need more sid the squid
An interesting concept for an episode!
Next time the return of Clayface!
You'd think the gangsters would be proud because they think Sid the Squid succeeded where other criminals have failed.
It's a matter of pride. Keep in mind that many of batman's antagonists have constantly battled with the dark knight and they always had their fights with Batman end in either a draw or a loss but both sides manage to come unscathed the idea of some random nobody taking out Batman irks them because they are enemies that Batman acknowledges as threats
I watched this episode as a kid and turned off the tv when Batman "dies".It was friday. I was devastated until monday when I saw another episode with Batman being alive.
I grew up with this series it is what got me onto batman keep the episode reviews coming man
The Joker eulogy is epic. It's one of those moments I could clearly remember since I was a kid.
There is a Fanfic on Spacebattles and Sufficient Velocity called Bruce has a problem, there is a lot going on in it, but pertinent to this episode, is what the fic does with Sid. In the world of the fic, Sid parleyed his rep from the end into starting a buisness after he served his time- a credit union among other things. He responded to the woes various thugs and henchmen had, because while their bosses either didn't care, or had the money to deal with it, a thug with no insurance has a huge problem when they get roughed up enough. So he provides insurance and other services to ex-cons and people of similarly poor legal standing, An untapped market of people who don't have access to money laundering like their bosses, but do end up with windfalls, and always need financial help. Sid used his rep from both sides of the criminal underworld, the rogues for his messing with Joker, and the mobs for messing with Thorne, and provided service to and gained even more respect from both sides. He even has a little revenge by refusing to accept the joker's buisness, the clown's goons only get by because Harley covers for them- like in the BTAS episode when Harley and Ivy team up and Joker's operation suffers.
Sids a minor character in the story but it is one of the little things the writers of the fic included to flesh out their version of Batman's adventures, picking and choosing their favorite elements accross the media to fit. It even has story relevance later on.
Miss Kevin Conroy 😥
I think this episode is the best showcase for the joker. It shows without a doubt his motivations in wanting batman in his life to chase him. He doesn't care about money or crime, he wants someone to chase him as an equal or better. This is something they largely dropped the ball with in the batman and robin episodes later, where they made the joker care about money more than anything else.
I've always enjoyed the various stories that basically say the Joker only exists because of Batman. Some stories where Batman "dies" see the Joker become a normal person. It's just a fun "Two sides of the same coin" narrative.
It's really obvious that Harleen Quinzel was supposed to be a fake name in this episode to fool the cops but when they expanded her character they were too lazy to come up with another name
Or it just fit her too well. Who knows?
I love hearing Mark Hamill talking about how much he loves Joker’s Eulogy. It’s so great
I love the Looney Tunes-esque character in the title card. Brings me much joy. Hey, sometimes it's the little things.
I love this episode, so great. Everything about it is just perfect.
This is the first time Harley ever used a different name, it's obvious Harleen wasn't meant to be her real name it was meant as a joke for the audience, but the writers got lazy and used it years later for her origin