You need more subscribers. i refer to you quite a bit when I stream, and I'm having my clanmates come watch your stuff, but your videos are worth so much more than the CoD youtube juggernauts that are Ali-a and Tmartn. In a perfect world, you would be beating them.
I'm subscribed to them, I didn't mean to say I think they're bad, those guys are cool too from time to time. I'm not a fan of just watching them play, but they put out some fun stuff.
The R5 with grip shoots like the MW2 SCAR-H and feels similar to it's base damage the majority of the time. This is a very good combination of things to have. R5, grip, ext mags. The irons are plenty usable.
Don't really have a "favorite" weapon between these two rifles. I'm more of an "adaptive" player who likes to use all the weapons. Change weapons at the end of every round/game. Even if the weapons aren't that good according to everyone else's standards.
I learned the best way to save Squad points is by sticking with the SC-2010 and only make more soldiers dedicated to different play styles. A lot of the weapons are "meh."
This is a great video, great job Driftor! I had no idea the fire rates were so close. The reload times are surprising as well. I think capacity of the AK might be its greatest asset in close range stealth classes when using extended mags. 20% faster reloads are great, but having to reload about half as much as a silenced R5 is a much greater advantage. And despite the 4 vs 5 shots to kill at range, I think the R5 takes the cake. Similar to what Driftor said, you will simply risk less in a long range AR battle when using something so much more precise.
Question: Why does the cod stats say that both weapons have the same damage but the AK-12 does more damage at max range and fires faster? Do COD even know?
***** Honestly they should stop bothering with tthe bar graphs. And it's not really complicated if they gave a brief description of what each stat was and did them right. In Black Ops 2, apparently the Skorpion dealt the most damage but that was VERY incorrect, it dealt less damage then the MSMC and PDW. And if I remember correctly, the stats also said that the MSMC was the most accurate (correct me if I'm wrong about the MSMC) but technically the Chicom was the most accurate with the Vector coming in second.
Grant Gilmore No, they're really not. Atleast not the COD weapon stats, because they never really tell the truth. The placebo effect and helpful are two different things.
Brilliant, brilliant comparison video. Good work Mr, Drift0r. I always preferred the AK12, simply as I unlocked it first and just got used to using it, but the R5 is a bit beastly when you get into the swing of things.
great video ,very informative that sets the standard on how a video needs to be done, love the way the information was portrayed in the video, this video is a definite win
AK-12 seems statistically better at most ranges, but the R5's precision is what wins it for me. The AK's recoil can make long range engagements difficult.
the graphs were awesome. really clarified the difference. thanks driftor great content once again;
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I love the AK-12 but the recoil precision advantage of the R5 makes it the better gun. The range of the R5 is more than adequate for most engagements and its 5 shot kill range is beyond the distance you should challenge people anyways.
You know, I really do love how much cod community chooses the "best weapon". Its all a game of rumors and lies. Back in MW3, no one used the CM901. But I did. At the time,I realized how consistent it was at almost all ranges. I was more or less a run and gunner,but the gun just... worked for me. The only reason why not that many people used it was because the community had a "bad first impression"of it for a mid-prestige AR.. The recoil was a bit high (controllable if you burst fired) and the fire rate (which is better than the R5 btw) really set people off. Why use the slow firing AR when you could have the smg that shoots almost TWICE as fast? *sigh* I suppose I have to put in consideration that MW3 is more CQC than ghosts, and therefore ARs are better, but still, the CM was really solid given the right map or situation. TL;DR : the cod community should really be more open when considering what guns to use instead of using what the community says is "better".
The remington R5 honestly reminds me almost perfectly of the CM which was definitely my favorite AR in that game. The R5 has like almost all the same animations. It even looks similar. Just slightly more accurate. But a relatively similar fire rate and everything.
lukewuzhere1000 to say that "no one used the CM901" isnt entirely accurate. I used it, and im sure thousands of others did too....... we all noticed those effects
I still play MW3 from time to time and I gotta say that the CM901 is my fav. automatic assault rifle (Burst goes to the M16A4). Potent, clear iron sights and had the devil's rate of fire >:D
TheStokeHero Sure, thousands used it because CoD has so many players. But compared to all the millions that only ran ACR, MP7, PP90, or even the Striker, the CM901 was almost non-existent.
I'm an R5 guy. One build for sniping one build for running around typical AR use. I find the semi-automatic sniping to be more fun, and when I'm running around, I find throwing knives and using the pistol to be more fun as well.
Awesome video!! One of your best videos so far. I loved the graphs; you did a great job of explaining them, especially with the "superposition" thing. Also, the recoil graph was great too. AND where you showed the actual distance instead of just giving us the numbers!! There were so many improvements! I thought your video's were great before; I didn't even know you could get this much better! I wish I could subscribe twice, haha.
honestly i dont like using the "best" guns, i like using underpowered weapons and dominating, its more of a challenge and makes Ghosts a little more fun to play, i like using the ARX and the first two ARs, the ARX is my favorite tho ;)
I appreciate the effort to actually show the range driftor, im glad you could do it rather well, and i encourage you to do it more, but what you can see there is that isnt 8 meters, thats barely 4 meters, its more like 10-15 feet, the game doesnt actually use real meters.
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I feel like the R5 needs too much for it to be really good. I mean, the iron sights are awful, so most people run optics, and then you have either extended mags, silencer, or muzzle brake. If you want to be sneaky and still have good range, then silencer is good, but it'll take more shots to kill (and you have small mag anyway). If you want ultimate range, then run muzzle break, but you wont be stealthy. If you want a larger mag, then emags, but you wont have that ultimate range or be stealthy. I feel like if you want this gun to be godly, then you'll have to run 3 attachments, which gives less perks (and we all know how important perks are in this game). With the AK, its easy. There's almost no reason to run optics because its iron sights are incredible so most people run silencer for more stealth and you'll still have great range. Then you can either run muzzle brake (better range) or emags (which is always a good choice). I even run it without silencer and put muzzle brake and emags and its arguably better than the silenced variant (better range/more bullets). Overall, I feel that the AK is easier to use because it doesnt rely on any of its attachments.
R41N3LLGaming for more precise shooting such as in a 4v4 game, quickdraw is better, as stalker tends to cause your shots to hit either side of the target while your moving under stress i find :/ so i prefer quickdraw + stalker for pubs and just quickdraw for 4v4s lol
...why the fuck would you compare to completely different perks? Why would 7 people +1 that? It is like saying Fully Loaded vs. Strong Arm...it doesn't make any sense.
AK12 is better in terms of iron sights, so instead of wasting a slot on red dot sight you can instead go for something like silencer/ext. mags. As well, the AK12 w/ silencer is still deadly long range but the R5 you can definitely feel some weakness. The AK12 is definitely better long range...for example window to window across the street on Warhawk, the remington has a way slower kill time because with the AK12 you can hold the trigger whereas the R5 you have to burst fire. That said the R5 imo is better at mid range.
I prefer R5 iron sights way over AK12's.. However the R5 is way too weak at long ranges, I think for the R5 to be in line with other AR's it needs to be 5 shot kill
ARs in competitive tend to stay around their spawn/homeflag/blitz, so I would understand why they prefer the remey. I prefer the remey in S&D (thermal+muzzle brake) over the AK12. But when I play another gamemode such as Domination, I use AK12 because it has bigger magazine. So I would say both gun has their different uses for me.
You said it best in your Remington in depth episode, its very rewarding to those who have good accuracy. R5 is my pick and I've had more success using it compared to the AK-12.
I found this video extremely helpful, as these are the two ARs I use. While the R5 only outclasses the AK for an 8 meter distance, it is a push between the two weapons up until that range. Therefore, the R5 is just as powerful and then better than the AK, up to about 53 meters when the tables turn. So basically, you want the R5 when you're going to be in medium range maps, and the AK in larger maps.
So was the MSBS, and now it is Nerf. If they were to Nerf every weapon that was better than the last, than you would end up getting a gun that takes 20 bullets to kill at the range of a spitball.
I think they are okay, they dont have extremely high damage and the low firerate counteracts the damage the guns put out. Do they outclass a lot of other guns? Yes, definitely. Yet, doesn't every game have a few guns like that?
James Smith yeah Ive never tried that, but considering the power of the marksman rifles already that seems to be a nightmare waiting in the shadows lol
They dont dominate anything, they are both horrible up close, where the honey badger or FAD are awesome up close. It all depends on how you are playing and your style.
It's because Driftor is a good commentator and is entertaining...but yeah if you guys want to get better at Cod then check out my channel im an up and coming UA-camr/Streamer who is a really chill person and has a alot of knowledge about this game and other games as well. And I try my best to bring energy and enthusiasm to all my videos like Driftor...Thanks! Love you guys! Peace!
R5 is a great gun, but to make it good, you need a sight, more ammo, etc. With AK12, we can use some more useful or tactical attachments and perks. This is a huge advantage.
i agree, but i also agree with driftor, i use the ak for pub stomping purely because of the ammo capacity lol but use the r5 for 4v4s due to its accuracy and stopping power
I don't need a sight for the R5. I quite like its irons, and I just roll with a Extended Mags, and the Muzzle Break (I'll sometimes sub a Grip as well.)
I prefer the ak12 just because you don't need to put a red dot on it as it has good iron sites compared to the shitty ones on the r5, meaning you can run muzzle brake and fore grip or extended mags, whereas on the r5 you can sort of only run one attachment unless you don't mind the iron sites.
AK-12 is something I used up close and R5 is something I can count on at any range... and I can use the R5 as a DMR with ACOG and Semi Auto.... some times will add Armor Piercing if I want the extra attachment
The only UA-camr who gives facts and proves it, every other I seen they say what they think there opinion which is not what I want to hear, great channel great vids :)
Have to remember that the deviation of the rounds in the graphs are hypothetical 100 round mag dumps. If you tap fire the deviatiob should have much of an effect, R5 would however be much more accurate while mag dumping.
The reasons I prefer R5 over AK12 Better iron sights Less recoil "Feels" better Better 3-shot kill range Reasons R5 is overall UP compared to other ARs 6 shot kill at long ranges with very slow fire rate slow fire rate (again) Small clip size High immediate damage hardly matters (49 damage is almost the same as 34 as players are hardly partially damaged) I still do best with the R5 though :)
I loved the Scar in Bloops2 so I use the R5 in this game because they seem pretty similar to me. Slow-firing but hard-hitting guns are just what I prefer.
One thing you could've mentioned is that the AK12 is better suited to use suppressed because it will never need more than 4 bullets to kill while the remingtons 5 is not an ideal weapon to use suppressed because the 5-shot kill range will get even closer.
I'm usually a aK12 user because I'm a solo player in a tdm match. silencer is my friend and my team are lower than 1.0k/d players. If i'm going to be the team, I can't die nor appear on radar. I did play with the R5 for quite some time, however I realize that i do die more with it than the AK12 whether its silencer or unsilencer like shown in this episode. statistically I'm a 2.7 with the ak12 and only a 1.8 with the R5. Big difference. It isn't really what's the best gun for me, but what you're comfortable with using.
I think for the situations you'll be wanting to use these guns are different. You want to be more of a defensive player to try and pick of enemies one by one from a short to medium distance with the Remington R5. But you want to try and get up close and behind the enemy with the AK12 hence the foregrip and silencer. That's why I think the Remington is a better gun, because it's more of an AR whilst the AK12 is kind of mimicking an SMG with a bit longer range and if you want to be rushing yet have quite a lot of range either use the Ripper or simply the Honey Badger is better in that situation. So the Remington wins, it's a better AR.
I tend to use Suppressor, foregrip or suppressor extended mag. depending on the map size. small maps you can do work with extended mag. this gun just feels so much better going from one target to the next
I have used both classes for a very long time now, and i can say for sure that the AK12 MOST definitely has a faster fire rate.. and this is on PS3.. R5 is a great weapon. but i always have a hard time up close with it.. it just isn't fast enough for close ranged battles.. the AK12 on the other hand, i haven't ever had a problem up close with it and i run the same perks on every assault. Ready up, stalker, focus, quick draw, and finally... fully loaded. if your using PC i understand.. i am not bashing your vid or anything and i like all your vids.. from my personal experience i can definitely feel the faster fire rate with the AK12. I subbed!
I was JUST making a class and didn't know if I should use the AK-12 or the Remington so thank you for helping with my choice. I'm going to make 2 classes one AK-12 one Remington LoL
I use the Remington with fore-grip, muzzle break, and semi-auto. I am more tactical so this class works for me. I would recommend people give it a try.
There are two things that break the Remington for me. The first is the small mag size. Sure it reloads faster, but 24 bullets without Extended Mags makes EM a must for me on that gun. Secondly, the iron sights are horrendous, making Red Dot a must as well. This pretty much locks in both attachments. On the other hand, the AK's iron sights are clear and open, giving me the ability to skip on an optic and go for a muzzle attachment like the suppressor. The mag is large but also gets a huge benefit from Extended Mags. I can down multiple groups without reloading. Also on the contrary to Drift0r's review, I can reload cancel the AK easier as well. The Remington has a side fling animation to the reload, where as the AK has a loud clacking sound when the mag is being locked into place, signaling the time to cancel. It may also be that I am used to the AK, but the Remington seems to jump more when going full auto. I think the Remington is far better as a burst fire weapon, not only conserving ammo (can skip on Extended Mags) but also making it even more powerful at range.
How adversely does the suppressor affect each weapon? Would the Remington still out perform the AK at mid range with the suppressor attachment? I do recall you mentioning that the AK was a great weapon for going suppressed...
Personal Opinion: I think the AK-12 is better because I hate wasting the Red Dot attachment on the Remington. The iron sights aren't that great compared to the AK's. But the advantage of the Remington is that it wrecks if your shots are spot on and you know when to reload.
i totally agree with you. i feel that im more aggressive and faster with the AK12 and i use more skill and accuracy with the R5......weirdly i can only get up to a Helio pilot with both
I love the R5 with muzzle brake and Armor Piercing Rounds, the ability to hit people behind cover across the map is uncompromisable to me after using it for a while.
Honestly, for the maps the pros play often, they would be better off with the ak-12. However, the best AR for those maps (in my opinion) is the FAD. It requires some skill to use at medium to long ranges because it has a fast drop-off, but recently I have been using it with great sucess.
Remington all dai. Put muzzle brake and red dot and you alight. My kd with it is like 4 and with the ak its 2. My accuracy is 22 and with ak its 19. The best weapons for you are the ones over 19% accuracy
Jxremiah Cernusak I disagree, the R5 has better range, recoil and TTK, but the AK-12 is superior in CQC, iron sights, and rof no key aspects for getting kills
ADS timing maybe and time to shoot after you ads (there is a delay) is different. The ak is a knifers friend. If you run in circles against sum1 with an ak, they wont be able to kill u. A
David Tennant AK-12 has better recoil in my opinion.I don't like vertical recoil.The iron sights are the best for the AK-12 so the is no need to spend some extra squad points for red dots or holographic sights like the R5.Attachments of my preference for the AK-12 are the muzzle brake and the piercing bullets.I wish I could add the foregrip but I can't attach it.
Both guns are very good, but I have a better experience with the Remington most likely due to its recoil pattern being very easy to handle, while the AK12 has a more random recoil pattern. After getting around 5,000 kills on both weapons, I had a better KD with the Remington (2.5) than the AK (2.1). Both are very good though, nice video.
hey i just noticed you hit 1,000 videos! Congrats! Every one of them was awesome, and keep up the good work!
You need more subscribers. i refer to you quite a bit when I stream, and I'm having my clanmates come watch your stuff, but your videos are worth so much more than the CoD youtube juggernauts that are Ali-a and Tmartn. In a perfect world, you would be beating them.
you should check out, XBOX AHOY.
I'm subscribed to them, I didn't mean to say I think they're bad, those guys are cool too from time to time. I'm not a fan of just watching them play, but they put out some fun stuff.
I've noticed that they post the same exact videos..
Ali a is fun.
I absolutely loved this video Drif0r! It's so nice to see two weapons compared with an even finer view of in-depth
The R5 with grip shoots like the MW2 SCAR-H and feels similar to it's base damage the majority of the time. This is a very good combination of things to have. R5, grip, ext mags. The irons are plenty usable.
Don't really have a "favorite" weapon between these two rifles. I'm more of an "adaptive" player who likes to use all the weapons. Change weapons at the end of every round/game. Even if the weapons aren't that good according to everyone else's standards.
***** Right on buddy! =D
Best episode of in depth yet! Keep adding those in game showing is distance thingys. You're great drift0r!
I think this was your best in depth video yet. I love all the details and graphs. Nicely done
I learned the best way to save Squad points is by sticking with the SC-2010 and only make more soldiers dedicated to different play styles. A lot of the weapons are "meh."
This is a great video, great job Driftor! I had no idea the fire rates were so close. The reload times are surprising as well. I think capacity of the AK might be its greatest asset in close range stealth classes when using extended mags. 20% faster reloads are great, but having to reload about half as much as a silenced R5 is a much greater advantage. And despite the 4 vs 5 shots to kill at range, I think the R5 takes the cake. Similar to what Driftor said, you will simply risk less in a long range AR battle when using something so much more precise.
Any chance on do either of these:
Honey Badger vs K7 (Pre-Attached Silencer)
ARX-160 vs Chain SAW (Pre-Attached Laser Sight)
Question: Why does the cod stats say that both weapons have the same damage but the AK-12 does more damage at max range and fires faster? Do COD even know?
Driftor says: the statistic bars always lie ;)
***** Honestly they should stop bothering with tthe bar graphs. And it's not really complicated if they gave a brief description of what each stat was and did them right. In Black Ops 2, apparently the Skorpion dealt the most damage but that was VERY incorrect, it dealt less damage then the MSMC and PDW. And if I remember correctly, the stats also said that the MSMC was the most accurate (correct me if I'm wrong about the MSMC) but technically the Chicom was the most accurate with the Vector coming in second.
Grant Gilmore No, they're really not. Atleast not the COD weapon stats, because they never really tell the truth. The placebo effect and helpful are two different things.
Cause they show the initial maximum damage
One of my fave episodes of In Depth!! Love seeing those charts and numbers. Quick question, how do you measure distances in the game?
Brilliant, brilliant comparison video. Good work Mr, Drift0r.
I always preferred the AK12, simply as I unlocked it first and just got used to using it, but the R5 is a bit beastly when you get into the swing of things.
great video ,very informative that sets the standard on how a video needs to be done, love the way the information was portrayed in the video, this video is a definite win
AK-12 seems statistically better at most ranges, but the R5's precision is what wins it for me. The AK's recoil can make long range engagements difficult.
Driftor you have been a real help to my cod skills.
I usually don't like cod tutorials but your awesome dude i can actually watch the WHOLE video nice work bro
Excited for the secret project! :D
Cool comparison video between the two. Great commentary.
I like the AK more, The Remington has fooked Ironsights + a to small normal clip.
the graphs were awesome. really clarified the difference. thanks driftor great content once again;
I love the AK-12 but the recoil precision advantage of the R5 makes it the better gun. The range of the R5 is more than adequate for most engagements and its 5 shot kill range is beyond the distance you should challenge people anyways.
R5 with muzzle break!
Super Secret Project?
I cannot wait! :D
You know, I really do love how much cod community chooses the "best weapon". Its all a game of rumors and lies. Back in MW3, no one used the CM901. But I did. At the time,I realized how consistent it was at almost all ranges. I was more or less a run and gunner,but the gun just... worked for me. The only reason why not that many people used it was because the community had a "bad first impression"of it for a mid-prestige AR.. The recoil was a bit high (controllable if you burst fired) and the fire rate (which is better than the R5 btw) really set people off. Why use the slow firing AR when you could have the smg that shoots almost TWICE as fast? *sigh* I suppose I have to put in consideration that MW3 is more CQC than ghosts, and therefore ARs are better, but still, the CM was really solid given the right map or situation.
TL;DR : the cod community should really be more open when considering what guns to use instead of using what the community says is "better".
The remington R5 honestly reminds me almost perfectly of the CM which was definitely my favorite AR in that game. The R5 has like almost all the same animations. It even looks similar. Just slightly more accurate. But a relatively similar fire rate and everything.
lukewuzhere1000 to say that "no one used the CM901" isnt entirely accurate. I used it, and im sure thousands of others did too....... we all noticed those effects
I still play MW3 from time to time and I gotta say that the CM901 is my fav. automatic assault rifle (Burst goes to the M16A4). Potent, clear iron sights and had the devil's rate of fire >:D
TheStokeHero Sure, thousands used it because CoD has so many players. But compared to all the millions that only ran ACR, MP7, PP90, or even the Striker, the CM901 was almost non-existent.
the maze calls you aa
Definitely definitely like the graphs, would love to see more!
watching this in 2015 cuz I love driftor
I won't finish the series until 2018 at the rate I watch these
I'm an R5 guy. One build for sniping one build for running around typical AR use. I find the semi-automatic sniping to be more fun, and when I'm running around, I find throwing knives and using the pistol to be more fun as well.
Thanks for the visual distance comparison! It really helps!
Awesome video!! One of your best videos so far. I loved the graphs; you did a great job of explaining them, especially with the "superposition" thing. Also, the recoil graph was great too. AND where you showed the actual distance instead of just giving us the numbers!! There were so many improvements! I thought your video's were great before; I didn't even know you could get this much better! I wish I could subscribe twice, haha.
honestly i dont like using the "best" guns, i like using underpowered weapons and dominating, its more of a challenge and makes Ghosts a little more fun to play, i like using the ARX and the first two ARs, the ARX is my favorite tho ;)
Totally agree, using the best weapons makes COD boring. Would rather use under powered weapons or shotguns and make it a challenge.
@@sazner i agreed too
Very nice, well done and informational in depth episode !!! Thank you Drift0r !!!
fantastic review....i was waiting for this
You underestimate my human eyes, Mr. Driftor.
I appreciate the effort to actually show the range driftor, im glad you could do it rather well, and i encourage you to do it more, but what you can see there is that isnt 8 meters, thats barely 4 meters, its more like 10-15 feet, the game doesnt actually use real meters.
Awesome comparison!
Amazing youtube'er
Great commentator
Very well educated and have data to go with it
You've evolved gaming videos and breakdowns of games you are the pioneer
The qualitative and quantitative data you gather hones in on the sheer number gatherings not just opinions.
And you are to thank for that.
A whole new dimension in gaming information
dirft reminds me of levelcap but in call of duty... anyway keep up the good work. love your vids in depth guns
I like the AK ironsights and mag capacity
IF YOU TURN THE AUTO CATIONS ON IT SAYS "HEY GUYS, STRIPPER HERE" IN THE BEGINNING LMFAO
Seems 2 often or dripper
I feel like the R5 needs too much for it to be really good. I mean, the iron sights are awful, so most people run optics, and then you have either extended mags, silencer, or muzzle brake. If you want to be sneaky and still have good range, then silencer is good, but it'll take more shots to kill (and you have small mag anyway). If you want ultimate range, then run muzzle break, but you wont be stealthy. If you want a larger mag, then emags, but you wont have that ultimate range or be stealthy. I feel like if you want this gun to be godly, then you'll have to run 3 attachments, which gives less perks (and we all know how important perks are in this game). With the AK, its easy. There's almost no reason to run optics because its iron sights are incredible so most people run silencer for more stealth and you'll still have great range. Then you can either run muzzle brake (better range) or emags (which is always a good choice). I even run it without silencer and put muzzle brake and emags and its arguably better than the silenced variant (better range/more bullets). Overall, I feel that the AK is easier to use because it doesnt rely on any of its attachments.
Quickdraw vs. Stalker
that one should be obvious....aim faster onto a target or already be aiming
***** I agree. I couldn't even notice Quickdraw's effects on regular guns.
R41N3LLGaming for more precise shooting such as in a 4v4 game, quickdraw is better, as stalker tends to cause your shots to hit either side of the target while your moving under stress i find :/ so i prefer quickdraw + stalker for pubs and just quickdraw for 4v4s lol
TheStokeHero do u even play competitive
...why the fuck would you compare to completely different perks? Why would 7 people +1 that? It is like saying Fully Loaded vs. Strong Arm...it doesn't make any sense.
AK12 is better in terms of iron sights, so instead of wasting a slot on red dot sight you can instead go for something like silencer/ext. mags. As well, the AK12 w/ silencer is still deadly long range but the R5 you can definitely feel some weakness.
The AK12 is definitely better long range...for example window to window across the street on Warhawk, the remington has a way slower kill time because with the AK12 you can hold the trigger whereas the R5 you have to burst fire.
That said the R5 imo is better at mid range.
I prefer R5 iron sights way over AK12's.. However the R5 is way too weak at long ranges, I think for the R5 to be in line with other AR's it needs to be 5 shot kill
Louey7777 Did you mean four-shot kill? It already caps out at a 5-shot kill.
Sorry I had my numbers wrong, was one up, yep I did Xaoshaen
Thanks for correction :)
ARs in competitive tend to stay around their spawn/homeflag/blitz, so I would understand why they prefer the remey. I prefer the remey in S&D (thermal+muzzle brake) over the AK12. But when I play another gamemode such as Domination, I use AK12 because it has bigger magazine. So I would say both gun has their different uses for me.
Love the graphs and visual on the range
i don't even play ghost anymore but i liked your video for how informative and well done it is.
You said it best in your Remington in depth episode, its very rewarding to those who have good accuracy. R5 is my pick and I've had more success using it compared to the AK-12.
I found this video extremely helpful, as these are the two ARs I use.
While the R5 only outclasses the AK for an 8 meter distance, it is a push between the two weapons up until that range. Therefore, the R5 is just as powerful and then better than the AK, up to about 53 meters when the tables turn. So basically, you want the R5 when you're going to be in medium range maps, and the AK in larger maps.
both of these guns need to be toned down just a little. They clearly dominate the other assault rifles
So was the MSBS, and now it is Nerf. If they were to Nerf every weapon that was better than the last, than you would end up getting a gun that takes 20 bullets to kill at the range of a spitball.
I think they are okay, they dont have extremely high damage and the low firerate counteracts the damage the guns put out. Do they outclass a lot of other guns? Yes, definitely. Yet, doesn't every game have a few guns like that?
James Smith yeah Ive never tried that, but considering the power of the marksman rifles already that seems to be a nightmare waiting in the shadows lol
They're not dominant. They're both specialized. This is something they did wit almost everything in MW2, and somewhat in MW3
They dont dominate anything, they are both horrible up close, where the honey badger or FAD are awesome up close. It all depends on how you are playing and your style.
god, i dont even have this game why do i watch these...???
It's because Driftor is a good commentator and is entertaining...but yeah if you guys want to get better at Cod then check out my channel im an up and coming UA-camr/Streamer who is a really chill person and has a alot of knowledge about this game and other games as well. And I try my best to bring energy and enthusiasm to all my videos like Driftor...Thanks! Love you guys! Peace!
***** Haha good to know
because you are not join to this game
Damn fine episode Driftor very informative and understandable
I really like to see your in depth of bf4
R5 is a great gun, but to make it good, you need a sight, more ammo, etc. With AK12, we can use some more useful or tactical attachments and perks. This is a huge advantage.
i agree, but i also agree with driftor, i use the ak for pub stomping purely because of the ammo capacity lol but use the r5 for 4v4s due to its accuracy and stopping power
I don't need a sight for the R5. I quite like its irons, and I just roll with a Extended Mags, and the Muzzle Break (I'll sometimes sub a Grip as well.)
The HoneyBadger will destroy both of these and you know why? Cus the HoneyBadger don't care, HoneyBadger don't give a shit
I prefer the ak12 just because you don't need to put a red dot on it as it has good iron sites compared to the shitty ones on the r5, meaning you can run muzzle brake and fore grip or extended mags, whereas on the r5 you can sort of only run one attachment unless you don't mind the iron sites.
or you could have the extra attachment perk and have 3 attachments
wolfe blazian Yea but then you are down on perks, just use the gun that you like the best
Very interesting video once again, even though I don't have Ghosts. Just enjoy your videos alot!
Really nice video drif0r!
AK-12 is something I used up close and R5 is something I can count on at any range... and I can use the R5 as a DMR with ACOG and Semi Auto.... some times will add Armor Piercing if I want the extra attachment
I really hope they release that camo :l
In the first clip when the dog is attacking you it looks like your like ''get away from me!!''
I love them both!
7:09 *THE NUMBERS DRIFT0R, WHAT DO THEY MEAN?*
The only UA-camr who gives facts and proves it, every other I seen they say what they think there opinion which is not what I want to hear, great channel great vids :)
Very good video, keep up the good work!
Have to remember that the deviation of the rounds in the graphs are hypothetical 100 round mag dumps. If you tap fire the deviatiob should have much of an effect, R5 would however be much more accurate while mag dumping.
The reasons I prefer R5 over AK12
Better iron sights
Less recoil
"Feels" better
Better 3-shot kill range
Reasons R5 is overall UP compared to other ARs
6 shot kill at long ranges with very slow fire rate
slow fire rate (again)
Small clip size
High immediate damage hardly matters (49 damage is almost the same as 34 as players are hardly partially damaged)
I still do best with the R5 though :)
Just use the one you like most
Remington for life remington+muzzle break+grip=god
R5 has been blowing my mind lately although occasionally it seems to have a sudden burst of upward muzzle rise.
Ready Up vs. QuickDraw
I loved the Scar in Bloops2 so I use the R5 in this game because they seem pretty similar to me. Slow-firing but hard-hitting guns are just what I prefer.
One thing you could've mentioned is that the AK12 is better suited to use suppressed because it will never need more than 4 bullets to kill while the remingtons 5 is not an ideal weapon to use suppressed because the 5-shot kill range will get even closer.
I like how he glazed over this.
What! I love graphs and numbers!
R5 trumps it for me. Iron sights are poor and mag is low. But I just get a much better feel for the R5. I think ultimately, that's what matters.
I'm usually a aK12 user because I'm a solo player in a tdm match. silencer is my friend and my team are lower than 1.0k/d players. If i'm going to be the team, I can't die nor appear on radar. I did play with the R5 for quite some time, however I realize that i do die more with it than the AK12 whether its silencer or unsilencer like shown in this episode. statistically I'm a 2.7 with the ak12 and only a 1.8 with the R5. Big difference. It isn't really what's the best gun for me, but what you're comfortable with using.
I think for the situations you'll be wanting to use these guns are different. You want to be more of a defensive player to try and pick of enemies one by one from a short to medium distance with the Remington R5. But you want to try and get up close and behind the enemy with the AK12 hence the foregrip and silencer. That's why I think the Remington is a better gun, because it's more of an AR whilst the AK12 is kind of mimicking an SMG with a bit longer range and if you want to be rushing yet have quite a lot of range either use the Ripper or simply the Honey Badger is better in that situation. So the Remington wins, it's a better AR.
I love graphs dude
I just feel so much more comfortable using the ak12.
Likewise. Try using Suppressor, Foregrip, and Extended Mags. It becomes a Multi-kill Death Laser.
I tend to use Suppressor, foregrip or suppressor extended mag. depending on the map size. small maps you can do work with extended mag. this gun just feels so much better going from one target to the next
Herm, I'll try that. And As for the last statement, I agree.
I Like to use muzzle brake, grip, and ext. mags or ap rounds because I like to improve my ak12
i use it lot online
I have used both classes for a very long time now, and i can say for sure that the AK12 MOST definitely has a faster fire rate.. and this is on PS3.. R5 is a great weapon. but i always have a hard time up close with it.. it just isn't fast enough for close ranged battles.. the AK12 on the other hand, i haven't ever had a problem up close with it and i run the same perks on every assault. Ready up, stalker, focus, quick draw, and finally... fully loaded. if your using PC i understand.. i am not bashing your vid or anything and i like all your vids.. from my personal experience i can definitely feel the faster fire rate with the AK12. I subbed!
I was JUST making a class and didn't know if I should use the AK-12 or the Remington so thank you for helping with my choice. I'm going to make 2 classes one AK-12 one Remington LoL
I use the Remington with fore-grip, muzzle break, and semi-auto. I am more tactical so this class works for me. I would recommend people give it a try.
i personally like the ak-12 better... idk it reminds me of the ACR 6.8
Next episode how about the score streak mechanics?
There are two things that break the Remington for me. The first is the small mag size. Sure it reloads faster, but 24 bullets without Extended Mags makes EM a must for me on that gun. Secondly, the iron sights are horrendous, making Red Dot a must as well. This pretty much locks in both attachments.
On the other hand, the AK's iron sights are clear and open, giving me the ability to skip on an optic and go for a muzzle attachment like the suppressor. The mag is large but also gets a huge benefit from Extended Mags. I can down multiple groups without reloading. Also on the contrary to Drift0r's review, I can reload cancel the AK easier as well. The Remington has a side fling animation to the reload, where as the AK has a loud clacking sound when the mag is being locked into place, signaling the time to cancel. It may also be that I am used to the AK, but the Remington seems to jump more when going full auto. I think the Remington is far better as a burst fire weapon, not only conserving ammo (can skip on Extended Mags) but also making it even more powerful at range.
i love graphs :D
they finally made the differences between these two rifles realistic. thank you infinity ward.
Keep up the good work driftor :)
How adversely does the suppressor affect each weapon? Would the Remington still out perform the AK at mid range with the suppressor attachment? I do recall you mentioning that the AK was a great weapon for going suppressed...
I honestly prefer the SA-805 over either of those. Probably my favorite gun.
Personal Opinion:
I think the AK-12 is better because I hate wasting the Red Dot attachment on the Remington. The iron sights aren't that great compared to the AK's. But the advantage of the Remington is that it wrecks if your shots are spot on and you know when to reload.
isnt the remington r5 a reskinned cm901 from mw3
basically, but the cm901 is a colt weapon
it has like the exact same animations
lol this entire game is a reskin mw3 lol look @ how you die in ghost and mw3 many mechanics are the same
No. It looks and shares some traits of it, but its far, far more precise, and a different monster in and of itself.
Nathan Takemoto Yea, but the recoil kinda feels the same...
I love both guns. I do think the R5 is better for playing tactically and the AK is better for rushing and bullshitting around.
i totally agree with you. i feel that im more aggressive and faster with the AK12 and i use more skill and accuracy with the R5......weirdly i can only get up to a Helio pilot with both
I love the R5 with muzzle brake and Armor Piercing Rounds, the ability to hit people behind cover across the map is uncompromisable to me after using it for a while.
I used to use the AK a lot but now I'm gravitating more towards the r5
Honestly, for the maps the pros play often, they would be better off with the ak-12. However, the best AR for those maps (in my opinion) is the FAD. It requires some skill to use at medium to long ranges because it has a fast drop-off, but recently I have been using it with great sucess.
Remington all dai. Put muzzle brake and red dot and you alight. My kd with it is like 4 and with the ak its 2. My accuracy is 22 and with ak its 19. The best weapons for you are the ones over 19% accuracy
Lmfao! the ak12 is so much better. stronger power, and decent range with suppressor. Better by far
Ehh naw, remington kill u with like 2 bullets anywhere , put a surpressor and you go 50-1
Jxremiah Cernusak I disagree, the R5 has better range, recoil and TTK, but the AK-12 is superior in CQC, iron sights, and rof no key aspects for getting kills
ADS timing maybe and time to shoot after you ads (there is a delay) is different. The ak is a knifers friend. If you run in circles against sum1 with an ak, they wont be able to kill u. A
David Tennant AK-12 has better recoil in my opinion.I don't like vertical recoil.The iron sights are the best for the AK-12 so the is no need to spend some extra squad points for red dots or holographic sights like the R5.Attachments of my preference for the AK-12 are the muzzle brake and the piercing bullets.I wish I could add the foregrip but I can't attach it.
Both guns are very good, but I have a better experience with the Remington most likely due to its recoil pattern being very easy to handle, while the AK12 has a more random recoil pattern. After getting around 5,000 kills on both weapons, I had a better KD with the Remington (2.5) than the AK (2.1). Both are very good though, nice video.
This was very well done good video
Dude i dont even own the game but i watch it anyways becauase your voice is so calming.
r5 with thermal and grip is a monster
I'm gonna use the r5 and see how it does. I look forward for more of your videos.