Human Dignity and the Problem with Pornography (Matt Fradd) | THEOLOGY OF THE BODY

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  • Опубліковано 22 кві 2021
  • In this exclusive segment, Matt Fradd and I discuss the themes of Saint John Paul II's Love and Responsibility and explore how they expose the fundamental problem with pornography.
    Matt and I have been friends for many years and I recently had the privilege of being on his show, Pints with Aquinas. We had an all out conversation about God, struggles with sexuality, human brokenness, and Theology of the Body. You can check that out over on his channel: • Christopher West on Se...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 41

  • @oambitiousone7100
    @oambitiousone7100 3 роки тому +17

    This little nugget of the interview is like a distilled vial. The whole interview, three hours plus, is worth your time. My husband and I watched it in two segments.

  • @aiantenor9080
    @aiantenor9080 3 роки тому +20

    i came here after listening to Pints with Aquinas

  • @levismadore556
    @levismadore556 3 роки тому +12

    To shift from looking to seeing an other for his/her own sake, I needed to shift from looking at my self to seeing my self as I am and as I am not. Then, somehow, I started to love others as they are and are not and detach myself from any outcome in relating to them. As soon as I find myself angling for an outcome from someone, I am hooked at looking and can no longer see.
    Levis Shalom

  • @androidaw7927
    @androidaw7927 3 роки тому +8

    Based conversation

  • @johnjaksich431k
    @johnjaksich431k 11 місяців тому +4

    Porn, in my opinion, is much like prostituting oneself with all of the worst possible consequences- thank you for posting.

  • @oambitiousone7100
    @oambitiousone7100 3 роки тому +7

    The remarks made about someone else existing for one’s own use/pleasure= profound.

  • @carpplumber
    @carpplumber Рік тому

    around 9:30 mark. who was the woman who was references? carol who. he spoke very fast. thanks

  • @halleylujah247
    @halleylujah247 3 роки тому +2

    What I pulled from this is just as God gives certain amounts of honor and grace to people on Earth he loves them differently. He may love St. Joseph more than me. It is okay for me to love my family more than my plumber each person has a appropriate level of love. Is that close?

    • @blackquiver
      @blackquiver 3 роки тому

      No different than loving a neighbor that's going or trying to kill u.

    • @waterlemon777
      @waterlemon777 3 роки тому +4

      No, you love everyone equally. You just have a duty towards your family. That’s the difference.

    • @PaxMundi118
      @PaxMundi118 3 роки тому +1

      I agree with Halley. Jesus is "infinitely graced," Mary is "full of grace" and we receive grace differently but not equally. God does not call me to love the neighbourhood barista in the same or to the same degree as my family. But it's an interesting conversation. What would "equal" even look like in this economy of love?

    • @chance9460
      @chance9460 3 роки тому +6

      True, and I have heard put in this manner before: 'Lord, I care not whether I be a thimble or a bucket, I only pray that I be full.'

    • @aadamy
      @aadamy 3 роки тому +2

      You would love each person as is appropriate. Tip the barista. Smile. Be polite.

  • @ash5033938337
    @ash5033938337 10 місяців тому

    God Bless

  • @gustavojc
    @gustavojc 3 роки тому +3

    UFC or MMA fights are more close to pornography as people enjoy one person destroying the other, right?

    • @Chris-xz6fw
      @Chris-xz6fw 2 роки тому +1

      Fr. Mike Schmitz does an interesting video about how MMA strips people of their human dignity. Maybe give it a watch if you're still searching for an answer.

  • @alanrair15
    @alanrair15 3 роки тому

    14:50 this confuses me, lets say I would like to be a boyfriend of a beautiful girl, if I don't like her "nose" for example, is my desire for a beautiful girlfriend playing against me loving a person? Am I being too focus on being with a beautiful woman?

    • @ukkimeepeatswaffles2493
      @ukkimeepeatswaffles2493 Рік тому

      Yes. If a nose is too much of an issue for you then you shouldn't be with that person anyways.

  • @blackquiver
    @blackquiver 3 роки тому +3

    Some ppl can not be helped, only thing a person can do is pray for them.

  • @davidpeyton1098
    @davidpeyton1098 Рік тому

    When a woman requires a man to "make her feel (fill in the blank)" or do xyz, before she will give her love to him a form of objectification?

  • @wishlist011
    @wishlist011 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting discussion. I find the suggestion that objectification is problematic a difficult thing to appreciate.
    I do not know the participants. I know they are people in their own right and likely have lives and interests of their own. I might enjoy getting to know them if the opportunity arose ... or I might not. Just as would be the case with anyone I met.
    I do enjoy their performance all the same. Regardless of how well I know them as people otherwise. They are willing participants and are compensated for that performance.
    With just the question of objectification in mind - am I wrong to so enjoy it without first coming to know them better as people?
    Should I not be watching others play football at all unless I'm acquainted with the people on the teams to some extent? I prefer rackets sports personally, but that's a different matter, as is the question of dignity.

    • @zebo6162
      @zebo6162 Рік тому +5

      I think the issue with pornography comes from God’s design for the sexual act (something to be intimately and thus privately shared between husband and wife).
      Just as introducing a third person into this embrace physically would go against this design, being a willing onlooker for the purposes of self-gratification is also not what God intended and would be considered a perversion of the act.
      The idea of being mutually complicit in the sins of another is a tempting one, but in my view it demonstrates a de-prioritization of God’s word over that of your peers (or in this case, strangers). Although our culture has gotten very proficient at proliferating sin, that is not evidence that it is good.
      I appreciate your thoughtful commentary on this issue.

  • @blackquiver
    @blackquiver 3 роки тому

    Sex and love r not to be confused as being the same thing, that's like saying freedom and liberty r the same.. They r not. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Gods Holy Spirit burns bright amongst the just.

    • @greenchristendom4116
      @greenchristendom4116 3 роки тому +3

      They need to be when they're going on, within the covenant of marriage. The Creator made both, and he meant them to go together. Adam saw Eve and said "this at last is flesh of my flesh and bone of my bone," and the Scriptural author concludes as a corrolary, "thus shall a man leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife and the two shall become one flesh." It's a natural part of the love of man and wife. Obviously love is more than just this, even in terms of this particular love. And sex is more than this since in it the couple fulfills the primal blessing and commandment of the Creator to be fertile and multiply. But to simply seperate these things is a gnostic error, not acknowledging the Creator's design in the human creature who exists in intrinsic unity of body and soul.

  • @blackquiver
    @blackquiver 3 роки тому

    Sexual addiction is asickness no divert than alcohol addiction or drug addiction. It's a a hard thing to deal with if ppl can't c God. The enemy will destroy a human Gods creation any way it can. Because we r all individuals, the enemy will trade us all differently.

  • @davidpo5517
    @davidpo5517 10 місяців тому

    The football analogy isn't a good analogy. "Consuming" people playing a football game is entertainment. Porn isn't just simply entertainment, that's the world's terminology.

  • @frederickanderson1860
    @frederickanderson1860 10 місяців тому

    How can these guy's look so serious about the sexual crimes in the church, protected by the canon laws and brushed under the carpet. How subtle these hypocrites talk about this subject and remain in the. Roman catholic church.

    • @RexKochanski
      @RexKochanski 7 місяців тому

      Why shouldn't they remain in the Church Jesus founded? Should everybody have left the Church because of the sin of Judas, or of Peter? There are indeed hypocrites in the Church, but don't worry - there's room for one more.

    • @frederickanderson1860
      @frederickanderson1860 7 місяців тому

      @@RexKochanski such loyalty chat jesus am sure would approved. Or would he????

  • @blackquiver
    @blackquiver 3 роки тому

    We r not Gods. Nor r we Jesus.. We as human, with that animal instinct to bread is an instinctive natural human behaviour/condition, without it, our species would die.. That dose not mean, we have to act like an animals. We as humans r not sub intelligence, unless we subcone to that inherit evil. In my mind their is nothing wrong to look at a woman and find her attractive, even if I was married can't help but only work on myself, . Physically or emotionally, If I allow that physical attraction to grow into a love that is under God, well that is a good thing. If it's a only souly based on physical attraction. God help them or I. It's a two way street .

  • @dalelerette206
    @dalelerette206 Рік тому

    Pornography could be good if it is used as a marital aid to bear children. The evil of pornography is when pornography leads to abortion. Pornography could be good when it is used to raise babies. The Song of Solomon is one of the most blessed books in a sexual sense.

  • @HAYAOLEONE
    @HAYAOLEONE 3 роки тому

    I think girls/women with an onlyfans are ok to marry.
    A girl/woman's 'bodycount' doesn't matter too. It never does.
    +

    • @josephmiller3672
      @josephmiller3672 Рік тому

      There have been studies that show a correlation between a woman's bodycount and her likelihood to get divorced.

  • @carlswindelliv2701
    @carlswindelliv2701 6 місяців тому +1

    How come the priests never talk about sex at the pulpits? Is it against the law?

    • @TheologyoftheBodyInstitute
      @TheologyoftheBodyInstitute  6 місяців тому

      Our greatest hope is that the Theology of the Body flows freely through the veins of the Church; especially at parishes!

    • @damianwhite504
      @damianwhite504 5 місяців тому

      many of them are too busy abusing children or covering up abuse