Are Movie Theaters Dying Now? What's Really Happening (according to me)
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- Another day, another round of people predicting doom for theaters. But how does one reconcile the flops with the hits?
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I think it’s pretty obvious why Furiosa bomb, aside from the girlboss element that has turned away audiences it was also years too late for a spin off that not many people were asking for as everyone wanted a Mad Max sequel instead since it has been 9 years since Fury Road.
13:50 also you are wrong with that one, Wonka was very successful hell it made $632 million at the box office.
Thank you Omni Viewer for such a strongly decisive and insightful response to the argument of streaming causing the movie theatres/cinemas to die. It is greatly appreciated and worthy of contemplation.
with planet of the apes, godzilla x kong and dune being the biggest money makers this year, that should tell hollywood that people want to see more of those types of films in cinemas
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Apes and GxK didn't even get close to $500m, Dune finished at $711m. Even last year those numbers were considered flops. Fury Road made more in 2015 dollars than Apes in 2024 dollars, and the internet talking point is that FR was a flop that didn't warrant a sequel. The evidence says that theaters are a hard sell right now, no matter what's playing
@@gc3k Bro, what?
I'm just saying the 2024 box office is 40% lower than 2023, despite "successful" movies like GxK Kong Dune
@@gc3k You know this kind of thinking is the reason why AAA game development is hell.
There was also the pandemic, which screwed everything up.
Its really everything just added together. Lack of quality films, streaming them later, the economy, the disrepect to the fans and of the work in question, and the many ways to watch them all for free on alternative sites. The pandemic just merged them all into a snowball going downhill.
Hollywood needs to reduce the amount of movies they PUMP every year and to me this is the best solution.
I would say the "Death of the Theater" is more of a Frankenstien's Creature type of death. it may go dormant and a should put over it, but one good Bolt of Interest and it will LIve Again.
Furiosa is one of the best movies of the year hands down. It sucks that we’ve had so many bad female hero movies that when a good one finally comes along, people refuse to watch it just because there’s a woman on the poster
At last. Pretty good analysis of the situation and some common sense reasoning on this entire topic. Popcorn, other concessions and movie exclusive premiums are a choice, not an obligation. Thank you, Ryan. However, the one facet you left out is the declining standard of some movie goers' during the film's screening in theatres. Texting, talking or otherwise disrupting other audience members is just plain rude and shows nothing, but a lack of consideration for other people in the theatre. Some of us are just plain disgusted by their behaviours, period. It has gotten to the point where I will only attend movies I want to see, on a premium screen because that audience like me, also spent more money to watch and likely will be paying attention to the film rather than behaving as though it was about them.
Well, that problem you describe is nothing new. There's a reason so many theaters still play those "please silence your phones" clips at every showing, and it's not because the etiquette is common practice. Heck, it's been an issue since the days of live theatre. I imagine many a performer in ancient Greece got fed up with some jerk in the audience talking to his friends instead of watching the show.
I agree that sharing a theater with disrespectful people is annoying as heck. Unfortunately, it's one of the risks we take for the experience.
I'll be surprised if Dune: Part Two, GxK remained to be the top 2 highest grossing films of 2024.
I love in the UK and in my part of Scotland, only one cinema has closed down. It was a small community cinema run by part time staff and was partly fund by the government. Which has closed down a lot of local community services, but to funding being cut to the bone.
In contrast, all the big cinema chains are still open. Every time I've been, they've been very busy. Especially, if it's an IMAX screen. I say IMAX is worth it.
Isn't The Fall Guy an adaptation of a show that Lee Majors was in?
Yes. It may as well be an original IP for most people though.
Speaking of streaming, it looks like "Godzilla 2014" will no longer be showing on Netflex at the end of June. I think that makes a good argument for physical media! (true, one can still catch that movie on MAX).
Hey Omni Viewer! About the Coyote Vs Acme film, has been there talks of it moving to streaming services?
Movie theaters won't completely die. There will always be a niche for it, kind of like drive-in theaters. Where I live in South Florida, there are quite a few 'luxury' theaters. Basically, it's like going out to dinner. You watch a movie in very comfortable lounge seats and have waitress/waiter service.
I thought Furiosa would do great since people loved Fury Road. I just look up that The Garfield Movie is doing better than it at the box office!
What does this mean?.... gvk 3 better get in production now😂😂
So, if people are tired of sequels/prequels/reboots, how do you explain Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes?
Ah, but I specified the nostalgia-baiting variety. Those are the kind that rely heavily on "Hey, remember this thing with all the moments you love? Here they are repackaged!" to get by.
KOTPOTA, by contrast, presented itself more as continuation of a story people are already invested in. The trailers present a few familiar scenes, it's true, but they don't lean on them.
It also helps that the POTA prequels still have a good reputation with audiences compared to other franchises, so audiences are more likely to give the latest entry a chance.
It's one thing that's not going away too easy despite facts showing otherwise.
11:43- 11:50
Though this statement still triggers me. Besides with the attitude these people are giving (Like you with that statement), I'm now starting to think that the originals I grown up with are just overhyped good looking garbage that people should just grow-up from them. Since I'm starting to feel with how they talk about the remakes, that animators and their fans are pretentious entitled people that deserve to be looked down on by society. Plus, half of me thinks that statement "Studios making movies that they think the audience wants, but actually don't," is just some stupid propaganda made by conservatives that can't accept that Hollywood no longer panders to their sorry traditionalist behinds. I don't care if I'm projecting my own problems onto you or I'm looking 2 faced, since most others don't care about catching their double standards. Then why should a hotheaded thin-skinned man-child like me should care either way?
A single movie ticket IS often more than a month of a streaming service AND even if the subscription IS more than a ticket, you have access to MANY movies vs a single move. Then, you can watch it with the whole family and pause it when/if you need to. "Just don't buy popcorn" - Spoken like a single person that doesn't take kids to the movies.
Having looked it up, a movie ticket in 2024 costs an average of $11.75, with some variation up or down depending on chain/region/type of showing (IMAX, 3D, etc.). Expensive? Yes, I don't deny that.
As for streaming, let's break it down. Some services, like Tubi , PlutoTV, and FreeVee don't cost anything and have fairly large selections, but there are two caveats.
First, they don't have everything, especially not from major studios with their own platforms (more on them later). Ergo, someone in the mood for a major blockbuster is generally going to be out of luck. You can't watch any of the Jurassic Park/World movies on these free platforms, nor any Pixar movies, nor the Lord of the Rings Trilogy. Maybe you can find a classic DC Batman or the first Sonic the Hedgehog film, but their presence is not guaranteed to be permanent.
Second, these free platforms sustain themselves with ads, something a lot of people aren't overly fond of. Many times have I seen the complaints about streaming having ads when one of the initial attractors was the lack thereof.
For the major subscription-based platforms, sure, you have tiers, and some of those tiers are very cheap (for now). Those cheap tiers, however, once again come with ads, and some even limit the amount of content you can get. This is done specifically to discourage people from picking the lower subscription tiers; the more you pay, the more content you get, and ad-free to boot.
The problem then becomes that each subscription-based platform only carries the content from the studio that owns it. Max only carries Warner Bros., Discovery, and HBO content (and not even all of it). Disney+ only carries Disney and Fox content (and some stuff has already been deleted or altered). Amazon Prime carries just about everything, but a lot of it requires an additional fee on top of the monthly subscription. Even Netflix now wants people to pay more to avoid getting ads. You get the idea, I'm sure. Therefore, someone who wants the widest variety of content without ads - either for themselves or their families - will have to subscribe to the more expensive tiers of multiple streaming platforms. That can total well over $50 a month on average. That doesn't even take into account that subscription fees are always increasing because, as stated, these platforms are not doing as well as predicted. They couldn't even do that well during the lockdown when people literally could not go anywhere.
Oh, and after the lockdown ended, one of the first things people did was go back to watch movies in theaters, but that probably doesn't mean anything, right?
"But you can access hundreds of movies as opposed to just one!" you say. Well, sure, but how many of those hundreds are you realistically going to watch? How much time does the average person have to spend on such an activity? How many nights have you spent scrolling through those hundreds of movies and shows looking for something to watch, only to give up because nothing is grabbing you? Or perhaps you found something, but it's already late and you need to be up early tomorrow, so you decide to watch it some other time? How often have you started something only to turn it off because it was bad? How often have you said you wanted to watch something that's streaming only for it to be taken down? How many times has the convenience of streaming been outweighed by the simple desire to just get out of the house for a change?
To be blunt, the arguments that streaming will kill theaters were made decades ago when television was first invented. Then they were made again when home video became its own industry. Then they were made *again* when the internet came into its own as a new media platform. Everything the pro-streaming side says has been said before, yet each time, theaters didn't go anywhere. There were periods of adjustment, sure, but the theater apocalypse always proved to be a dud. And each time, the false prophets quietly stepped back and waited for the next new thing so they could start the process anew. All I see is history repeating itself for the umpteenth time.
"Spoken like a single person that doesn't take kids to the movies."
First and foremost, I used to be a kid who liked going to the movies, and not every screening was accompanied by popcorn and drinks. Frequently, we were there just to watch the movie. Sometimes we snuck our own candy in, but even that wasn't a common practice. Children or no children, buying concessions is a choice, not an obligation.
Second, I've heard this same argument made by people who are either single or childless, yet they still lament the price of concessions as though getting them is mandatory. It's just an excuse that falls apart if you take a few seconds to think about it.
I understand the allure of snacks during a movie, and I understand wanting the full theatrical experience, but acting like it's not optional is absurd. Frankly, if a person can't tell their kids that they don't need popcorn every time they go to the movies, that's a completely separate issue with ramifications beyond the price of a snack.
The Kindle did not mark the end of physical books.
iTunes did not mark the end of records and CDs.
TV, home video, and the internet did not mark the end of movie theaters.
Movie theaters did not mark the end of live theater.
With a trach record like that, why should I believe this time will be any different?
I concur that furiosa was really good, and I thought Wonka was actually a good movie.
Wonka was enjoyable, but it seemed to rely really heavily on a lot of contrivances. I thought there were multiple instances where Wonka should have lost his luggage (down the chute into slavery and on the exploding ship) as well as the elevator to the chocolate vault taking inconsistent amounts of time (takes about the time you'd expect for an elevator until the end when Hugh Grant has to basically teleport to save Wonka and Noodle or else the movie would end with death if I recall). The antagonists that enslave Wonka seem inconsistent in their intelligence to where I'm still not sure half of their actions work with the other half. And the reason I think those are issues is that if those issues were fixed, the movie would be very different. I could be wrong on those and would invite clarification if any of those aren't as contrived as I thought
Your box office take-to-studio/profits analysis is not correct. Your numbers do not account for marketing costs (to say nothing of reshoots, print costs), and lesser take from global tickets (especially China). With just factoring in marketing costs alone films like Dune and Godzilla X Kong are making very slim profits to in Kong's case taking slim losses. Apes is a loss and Furiosa and Fall Guy are 100 mil + losses.
No one can take your opinion seriously because of that hat and outfit
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(0:45) I find it funny that all of a sudden Furiosa (for what ever reason) has become the movie to determine the success of movie theaters. And for whatever reason the people that are saying "movie theaters are dying" or "no one is going to the theaters anymore" neglect to mention how successful "Godzilla X Kong" or "Dune 2" were. Plus the year is not even over yet and im sure movies like "Deadpool & Wolverine" and "Joker 2" are more than likely going to be big hits later this year. 👥📹🤨🤦📈💰
(15:14) Exactly, and the fact that movie theaters survived for this long shows that they're probably going to stay for a lot longer then what some people might think. Not to mention that I remember hearing that back when Television first came out that is was going to ruin movies theaters going forward, and despite that theres still movie theaters to this day. 🎥🗓⏪📺