How to Deal With Boundary Bullies, Including Narcissists - Terri Cole

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  • @monicaraybon1802
    @monicaraybon1802 Рік тому +23

    At age 70 just learning this. Mom was a narcissist who taught me to be a people pleaser. It was all about power and control. Dad was an alcoholic so I didn’t feel safe.

  • @janethomas78
    @janethomas78 6 років тому +158

    If you were not respected as a child or allowed to become your true beautiful loving self, you are going to have challenges.

    • @vaughnwalker1840
      @vaughnwalker1840 5 років тому +3

      It's sad but so true

    • @loveahusky
      @loveahusky 5 років тому +1

      gorilla twist so sad, so true

    • @loveahusky
      @loveahusky 5 років тому +2

      Vaughn Walker I didn’t even see your comment and wrote exact comment, lol

    • @wolfkai82
      @wolfkai82 4 роки тому +4

      gorilla twist Yeah that’s the super super thing I’ve recently realized but it extra sucks when you don’t even have the support or resources to pay for therapy or all these fancy things that can just fix you or whatever I just got to figure it out myself and the Internet I suppose many are in my position as well as those who have the opposite

    • @janethomas78
      @janethomas78 4 роки тому +3

      @@wolfkai82 if you have a computer you have a great resource. Also Study Attachment Trauma. Erick Ericksons 8 stages of Psycho social development. THAT is where all the problems started!

  • @R.A.A.1980
    @R.A.A.1980 Рік тому +4

    Wow after 42 yrs with a family of narcs your voice is so soothing and direct. Incredible message so thankful I found your page

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  Рік тому

      I'm glad you found my channel ❤️

  • @divinecommerce6760
    @divinecommerce6760 7 років тому +177

    I laughed out loud to the question of when I was taught boundaries... I wasn't even allowed to have needs or feelings without the following blame, shame, and guilt storm from my parents... No surprise my adult relationships have been hell on earth but I'm learning SELF LOVE ❤️

    • @georgialeblanc6449
      @georgialeblanc6449 6 років тому +8

      DIVINE COMMERCE I am sorry to hear about the painful way you were raised. My life experience is very similar. I am pleased you are choosing to learn self love. Me too! It fills my heart with hope for this world when teachers like this are accessible for persons like us to help us to learn these valuable life skills. Best of life to you!

    • @carlhoffmann1779
      @carlhoffmann1779 6 років тому +11

      My childhood was the same way. I cant even believe that looking back I never realized any of this before. Its like I am waking from a dream that was my life.

    • @jaclynh9343
      @jaclynh9343 6 років тому +5

      I am totally there with you.

    • @pegasus5148
      @pegasus5148 6 років тому +9

      +DIVINE COMMERCE, your Narc parents
      cannot teach you boundaries because
      they need "supply" from you. If you have
      boundaries they cannot get supply.
      When you realize what is really going
      on and get away, you take the supply with you.
      All they want is to hurt you "emotionally"
      because they are "covert" sadists.
      Narcs have kids because they are "captive"
      supply.

    • @Sandra-fc8pc
      @Sandra-fc8pc 6 років тому +5

      Yes, it's so important, and life changing! From pain and hurt to love and light!

  • @brightpage1020
    @brightpage1020 2 місяці тому +2

    The term “boundary bullies” is *so* accurate!!!
    If you don’t feel steamrolled, you feel emotionally slimed after dealing with them.

  • @Nitya-r86
    @Nitya-r86 7 років тому +212

    I'm from India and in my country, trampling over people's boundaries is a common phenomenon, often cleverly disguised as ''concern'. In most Indian families, it is a pretty common sight to see boundaries being busted. Most of the time, it is the elders who bust boundaries of the younger ones. For e.g.- overfeeding a guest is considered 'good hospitality' in India by many(God knows why that is, though!). I went to an aunt's place recently, where I was overfed to the point that I had a stomach ache, despite saying 'no' more than 3-4 times. I naturally have a small appetite, so you can imagine how pissed I was. This, however, is a petty issue. Boundary bullying assumes gargantuan proportions when parents decide what their children should be studying or who they should be getting married to and blah blah, without even bothering to ask them if they want the same things too. Body shaming is also very common here. When you grow up in an environment like this, it gets extremely difficult to draw a boundary and implement it, because there'll always be someone eagerly waiting to 'break the walls' and heck, even take delight in doing so. I've grown up with a narc father and an enabler mom, so the difficulty in drawing boundaries in my case assumes frightening proportions. I'm always worried about offending someone, despite the fact that nobody seems to be worried about offending me :-( It sucks. But thank you for sharing whatever you did. I will start slow and hopefully, manage to get better at it as time passes on. A relationship that does not respect boundaries is unhealthy and I get it. Thanks, Terri!

    • @lizafield9002
      @lizafield9002 7 років тому +14

      Nitya, you can do it!--you're a pioneer there, whom others in demoraliziing situations will follow into the sunlight.

    • @Nitya-r86
      @Nitya-r86 7 років тому +3

      Thanks a lot Liza :-)

    • @angelafalsetta4309
      @angelafalsetta4309 7 років тому +6

      Just say NO!!!!!!!!! And mean it!

    • @orangeziggy599
      @orangeziggy599 7 років тому +5

      I have also become numb to the violence that narcissists can do with their bullying and breaking of boundaries.

    • @boomerangsruckflug8513
      @boomerangsruckflug8513 7 років тому +21

      Hi Nitya, I know that. In Germany it's not so long ago that people, especially relatives behaved the same. First I think we should consider where that comes from. These older people, like grandmothers want us to be healthy and are glad not to be that poor like many people e.g. in your country and in Germany my grandmother had to starve in the 2nd world war. So when they fill our plate again and again, for them it's showing their love to us. My grandmother told us to eat all she gave us and as reward she promised some chocolate! Thank god we didn't get fat anyway... I would recommend to say it very polite but very clear: "Thank you XXXX, it was a wonderful meal, I really love how you cook and now I am full, thank you so much." Then you STOP eating, even if she fills your plate again, you don't touch it anymore. She has got your message, there is nothing to do anymore for you and nothing to justify for. If she says, why don't you eat? You can say, "XXX, you know" and then you smile. This is how I would handle it now as an adult woman. As a child I couldn't do that, since I didn't know how to set boundaries. All the best Nitya and stay healthy ;-)

  • @5winder
    @5winder 7 років тому +67

    Narcissists, bullies, sociopaths, psychopaths... all the same people (on different days). Treat them as though they're beneath you... (they ARE --- in HELL)... just ignore them. And never look back.

  • @terribletanner805
    @terribletanner805 7 років тому +115

    The magic word is: No.
    The magic tactic is: Still No.

    • @boomerangsruckflug8513
      @boomerangsruckflug8513 7 років тому +20

      ...and if the NO doesn't work, the magic tactic is: LEAVE, RUN, BLOCK, DELETE, KICK OUT

    • @yvonce7309
      @yvonce7309 6 років тому +4

      Mireille Claire
      Hahahahaha!!!! That is definitely what you have to do.

    • @LinYouToo
      @LinYouToo 5 років тому +9

      Terrible Tanner No is a complete sentence.

    • @Vixinaful
      @Vixinaful 4 роки тому +1

      No the magic tactic is calling the police for removal when outside your door in the middle of the night, lol!

    • @Vixinaful
      @Vixinaful 4 роки тому

      No the magic tactic is calling the police for removal when outside your door in the middle of the night, lol!

  • @rumana4512
    @rumana4512 6 років тому +41

    Having boundaries is all Ive ever asked for from my family; no name calling, no swearing, no backbiting, apply the same rules to me as you do to other members. As you can imagine gaslighting was used to deny me these. Scapegoating of me and my deceased Dad is another one to justify any bad behaviours towards me. Its painful when you stand up for yourself and even more painful when you dont.

    • @Megan6772
      @Megan6772 4 роки тому +3

      Big big big squeezy hugs 🤗🤗💓

    • @mihaelauricaru5150
      @mihaelauricaru5150 Рік тому +2

      You are a very strong person, please find ways to stay away from that toxicity. God bless you!❤

  • @SaraFJones
    @SaraFJones 5 років тому +21

    I was told I was brazen, selfish, thought too much of myself! Glad I’m no longer apart of that unit!

  • @Pfsif
    @Pfsif 7 років тому +86

    Narcissist are impossible to reason with, it's like fighting on a Merry go round in space.

    • @pegasus5148
      @pegasus5148 6 років тому +9

      +Pfsif, never reason with them.
      It is a complete waste of energy
      because they will "lie, deny and gaslight"
      you over and over. They don't want to
      work anything out. They just want to
      hurt you over and over and get-away-
      with-it as long as possible.

    • @diana_doee
      @diana_doee 5 років тому +2

      Wow tell me about it smh I’m glad I know these things

    • @joannemorgan2218
      @joannemorgan2218 4 роки тому

      Haha

    • @questioneverything9535
      @questioneverything9535 2 роки тому

      Got that right. I've started saying "and off the rails you go" when my narc husband starts his word salads. He does not like me setting boundaries, so I will continue to set them and keep them in place. I like my newfound confidence in myself and my accomplishments, and my happiness irks him. Hard to decide what to do since I have a home business (greenhouses) that cannot be moved from the property.

    • @edl6398
      @edl6398 7 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂 great analogy!!

  • @boomerangsruckflug8513
    @boomerangsruckflug8513 7 років тому +62

    Thank you so, so much Terri. I had a narcissistic mother and bullying happened to me in school, in my jobs and from friends. One day I realized that I am no victim unless I agree to be. This was my "breakthrough" to a new life as an adult woman on the way to become self-loving, confident and strong, finally able to stand up for myself!

  • @clairenichols2858
    @clairenichols2858 6 років тому +26

    thank you for saying how boundary bullies like to accuse someone for saying no or "taking your space to be calm" selfish. I have had that happen so much, and it is a relief to hear you touch on this for me to know I wasn't being selfish, but self-protective.

  • @lisadee9749
    @lisadee9749 2 роки тому +7

    I was NEVER allowed to have my own feelings or thoughts. Mine were wrong, both my parents were always right. I was mocked and guilted as a child if I did not comply. Even when my dad did inappropriate things and I told my mom, it was always "oh, that's just your dad."

  • @jayroe725
    @jayroe725 6 років тому +25

    Thank you so much. I'm 45 and am dealing with my first narc coworker. I grew up with a very strict father, and feel like I'm dealing with him all over again. I just freeze up and feel like I can't say anything right when she talks to me. Everything you say fits her personality to a T. It has been really hard on me, and I often think about quitting because of her. You have helped me realize what I'm dealing with and what to do next time she gets confrontational with me. Thank you!

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  6 років тому

      Thank you for sharing here with us and good for you for being willing to learn a new way of dealing with your unhealthy coworker!

    • @LinYouToo
      @LinYouToo 5 років тому +4

      jayroe725 I’ve experienced workplace violence like this too. It’s awful. I had to pretend I was wearing Teflon and all their attacks and emotional abuse fell on the floor. Stay strong and hopefully you can get out from under this situation soon.

    • @mihaelauricaru5150
      @mihaelauricaru5150 Рік тому

      Yes, the first thought is to fly away...effective boundaries are really necessary and eventually looking for another job, but learning how to protect yourself is the key, because you'll find out, bullismo and narcs are everywere. Stay blessed❤

  • @charlotteslemp3687
    @charlotteslemp3687 6 років тому +14

    I so enjoyed your video!! Thank you!!! I have been studying about narcissism for about 3 years now. I have been married to my husband for 55 years. And did not realize that he was a narcissist, until I began to search about it. I had no idea what it all meant, I think it's possible he is a sociopath also. But by the time I began to see this, he has complete control of all money, even our food. It's a long story, but trust me, I do not see how I can survive or live on what I would have alone. It all seems so hopeless to think of leaving, but knowing this can not go on like this. At my age, no options seem right. Sorry, guess I am just tired tonight. And again, thank you for your kind and thoughtful words.

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  6 років тому +5

      Charlotte-,
      Thank you for sharing here with us. I am witnessing your struggle with compassion and understanding. After a good night sleep perhaps a clear mind will help you think outside the box and start to explore options. Escaping your situation is possible but will require you to be smart and to keep your plans to yourself. Think about who you can get support from and look for organizations that help women who are in domestic violence situations. You can do it, mama xoxo

    • @questioneverything9535
      @questioneverything9535 2 роки тому +2

      @@terri_cole Small steps add up over time. Best advice is to keep your plans to yourself.

  • @mindy1230
    @mindy1230 4 місяці тому +1

    You seem kind. I had a narcissist for a Mom who had me at 16. I saw how she reacted with her Narcissist Mother. I remember my great grandmother crying before she died how she was sorry for not being a better mother. ❤ I am breaking the cycle one link at a time.

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  4 місяці тому +1

      Breaking the cycle takes a lot of courage and strength ❤️ I am witnessing you with compassion.

  • @sanniichigo949
    @sanniichigo949 4 роки тому +3

    Any time I draw boundaries I get incredibly tense and expect THE ABSOLUTE WORST from the other person, because that's my experience - ruthlessness and wraith when saying "no" or "I don't like it". Good thing I learnt that even then it's better to self protect, state the boundaries and leave the person if they don't respect them buy I'm still so so surprised when I confront other people and they not only don't get angry like my abuser, they actually respect what I told them and change and me not having to fight like an animal for most basic things??? Sometimes I don't even know how to deal with it it feels so foreign for me

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  4 роки тому +2

      Yes most people appreciate knowing your boundaries because boundaries teach people how to show us love. You don't have to always fight like an animal. I am so sorry you had that experience when you were younger. Take your time and be patient with the people who are respecting your boundaries. Remember to take care of you.

  • @jeromebrown6626
    @jeromebrown6626 Рік тому +2

    you seem to be a conscious, sensitive, caring person. thanx

    • @jeromebrown6626
      @jeromebrown6626 Рік тому

      My friend is freezing me out because I don't make enough money, and the hunt for money gives me little time. Life's a vulgar business, garnished with silly love songs. And so it goes. Alas.

  • @melodyslocum2309
    @melodyslocum2309 3 роки тому +1

    Look at myself from my childhood experiences. Ooo, my mommie dearest

  • @pstewart6537
    @pstewart6537 4 місяці тому +2

    I just learned of you through the comment section of on of Rebecca C. Mandeville's videos and feel fortunate to have the privilege to listen to your views. You're a great presence in this world and thank you for your work.

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  4 місяці тому

      That warms my heart, thank you so much ❤️❤️ and welcome to my channel!

  • @lovinglife2232
    @lovinglife2232 7 років тому +46

    Boundary bullies love to catch you off guard! How can someone stop them in their tracks at that moment when you've been put on the spot?

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  7 років тому +34

      You can say ,"Hey Bob, I'll have to get back to you on that." or "Hey Bob, that actually won't work for me but thanks for the thought." Try to have 2 or 3 things at the ready for Boundary Bullies. Write them down if you have to and repeat them often. If you have already declined to do the thing they are AGAIN trying to get you to do, use the same language like,"Bob, as i stated on Tuesday, that doesn't not work for me." The more you say it and even practice it so you don't freeze in the moment, the less the BB will target you. Thanks for a great Q!

  • @MygirlsGJPB
    @MygirlsGJPB 5 років тому +25

    I start to shake when I try to set boundaries more out of rage from letting them get trampled in the past. Its an entirely disproportionate response I really hope to find a way to overcome this.

    • @thesandrabebe7478
      @thesandrabebe7478 2 роки тому +3

      I have the same issue. I keep bringing the past with me .Its embarrassing.

    • @McMilesE
      @McMilesE Рік тому +1

      Fuck this is me too. I don't shake, but it's like my voice is taken away and I get almost terrified (irrationally so) because I've been so accustomed to doing nothing. And the people I was raised by are so backwards in their thinking - I am literally always the scapegoat lolz. Enmeshed family. Very fun stuff

  • @JenniferWilliams-bb7hi
    @JenniferWilliams-bb7hi Рік тому +2

    My dad tried to interfere in my dating life and made me choose between himself and my boyfriend when we were in high school who eventually became my husband. I chose my boyfriend and I chose wrong in his eyes so I got the silent treatment. Then my dad eventually calls to say with fake tears you may not need your dad but your dad needs you. Boy was he right about that. Even though I repeatedly kept chasing after his love and approval over the years even after that statement he made and we never agreed on anything that is one thing I do agree with him on. I finally realize that I don't need him. It's time to love me!

  • @takmaps
    @takmaps 6 років тому +3

    I was guilt tripped into accepting to go to a trip with my mother, I don't hate her but being around her drains my energy and I'd rather not do it. She has narcissistic tendencies and doesn't respect boundaries at all and I'm 24years old. Your video has given me the courage to cancel a month before said trip. Thanks.

  • @sharada6698
    @sharada6698 7 років тому +15

    Thank you so much terri, you have no idea how much you are helping me with these videos. Thank you so much for caring about us.

  • @stephstephyep
    @stephstephyep 4 місяці тому +1

    I absolutely loved this video. On the verge of tears just reflecting on my inner weakness, the past, and not establishing boundaries with people. Especially with this who become too familiar to quickly. You’re an angel thank you. ❤

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  4 місяці тому

      I am witnessing you with compassion ❤️

  • @MichaelAlbrecht-d7z
    @MichaelAlbrecht-d7z 10 місяців тому +1

    Narcissists definitely do not care.
    Be very very very carefull.

  • @LukiaSl
    @LukiaSl 7 років тому +1

    The psychotherapist I've been visiting told me I need to learn to draw boundaries but that was about it! He never got into it, never gave me any tips, never helped me understand why I've been having boundary issues and how I could change that. I'm so thankful I discovered you Terri! ❤

  • @TheRhnda1225
    @TheRhnda1225 6 років тому +8

    I asked a question on another video then got my answer here. I think I’ll act like nothing is wrong and continue with my dance. Thank you so much!!

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  6 років тому +3

      Rhonda, I'm sorry about the confusion but hope the answer helped! Wishing you the best.

  • @rachellewis6383
    @rachellewis6383 6 років тому +2

    This video was perfect for me. As a child my mother allowed my older sister to bully me. Said that’s just what sisters do. She did it our whole life even into adulthood and I thought it was normal until I got into some serious counseling. But I’ve finally found my strength and the word NO.., so here we are 36 and 46 and she still tries to bully me name calling telling me what a pos I am etc so here it is the holidays and here’s my mother YOU NEED TO REACH OUT TO YOUR SISTER SO WE CAN HAVE A GOOD CHRISTMAS...., UH HUGE NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! And I told my mother respect my boundaries or I won’t have a relationship with you either. I will never give my sister another opportunity to hurt me belittle me bully me.

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  6 років тому

      Witnessing you Rachel and sending you so much compassion. Way to stand up for yourself and reinforce your boundaries! I'm sending you strength. Keep going!!

    • @angels664
      @angels664 5 років тому

      Stay strong Rachel! You're doing the right thing. You need to honour yourself..and stay true to yourself!

  • @OB17358
    @OB17358 6 років тому +1

    A reality not addressed here is children of narcissists are usually narcissists as well. This is great advice, thanks.

    • @lokeanwifey
      @lokeanwifey 6 років тому

      L J, my mother is a narcissist, and she struggled to escape from my grandmother, who is also a narcissist. My mum doesn't understand that she is grown to be like my grandmother. She honestly thinks she "grew past it." I'm now fighting to break the cycle.

  • @caleuxx9108
    @caleuxx9108 5 років тому +6

    Teri, love your videos. I want to comment on BURNT-OUT. I think that I developed burn out a few years ago. Work was probably a major factor. But I think that a bigger factor was my toxic personal life. Since I started developing symptoms, I educated myself alot about stress, narcissism, codepdendency, burn out and boundries. Working in the ER is a high stress job, which I did for years. What I think got me in the end though, was all the toxic people in my personal life - so many people, who are "unsafe" according to dr.Cloud's book about Safe and Unsafe people. When I was not at work, I was constantly in the presence of people, who were energetically draining me - energy vampires of different categories (Julie Hanks's described them in a video). Some yelling, constantly complaining, some talking non stop for an hour about themselves, some cutting me off mid sentence in a dysrespectful manor, when I was talking; mom schizofrenic, brother passive-aggressive (always late, forgetting, etc.), father nacisssitic controlling - so many unreliable people in my personal life. And is seems that they are all boundry bullies. My therapist says I was constantly being attacked (non physically). I see it as constant chaos and dysrespect. I was doing so very well in my own personal life that year (got married, bought a condo, passed a college course), but all those other people were all headed or already in personal crises (all of them). My only safe choice was and has been to either be at home (or out alone) with non-toxic husband or be among people, none of whom are OK. I could probably have managed work and one toxic person, but that many "unsafe" dysfunctional people in my life drained me. I could not socialize and relax at the same time. Every family gathering was and is toxic. Sometimes it's not about the individual one factor, sometimes it's about an accumulation of toxic factors. The solution - minimizing contact with so many people has left me in a place of loneliness, much grieving took and is taking place. And I have become the black sheep of the family, because of all the boundries I have set up. They really are boundry bullies. So painful. I wish there were videos out there about this issue of quantity

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  5 років тому +2

      Thank you for sharing your story and experiences. And thank you for being here. You matter.

  • @lesleygarvs4640
    @lesleygarvs4640 Рік тому +2

    I am realizing this needs to be done 1 by one and really slowly and consciously as I am crawling in this interactions... I love your terminology... Boundary bullies, yes, yes, yes... That creates a picture in my mind that I usually don t have when I have these trespassors in front of me... I need to practice!!! 🙋‍♀️🏄‍♀️🏄‍♀️🏄‍♀️

  • @georgialeblanc6449
    @georgialeblanc6449 6 років тому +11

    You are amazing! What a force of good in this world! Blessings to you!

  • @privateprivate8366
    @privateprivate8366 6 років тому +2

    I’m so glad I’ve been increasingly pretty good at maintaining boundaries, the more narcissistic my mother has become, even before I understood narcissism. I think, for me, it was simply as part of my own maturity. As I became more cognizant, even subconsciously, that my mother was becoming unempathetic, the more I pushed back. I began to learn that she would devour my free time. If I let her have free reign over my life, I might not get a chance to even arrive at work showered. Being covert, it’s done in such an “innocent” fashion. As I often found myself saying to her, “Yes, it’s not what you mean to happen. It’s just what seems to happen anyway. That is coming to a close.” Shes mostly moved onto my sister now as, my sister knows nothing about narcissism, although I’ve tried to inform her, is financially and emotionally desperate and is malleable with no boundaries. As my mother ages, that’s what she’s looking for and I’m not it. That works for me! I wish my sister could get out but, as she is now the newly-appointed Golden Child and Flying Monkey, there’s nothing much I can do.

  • @lonelyartist4
    @lonelyartist4 5 років тому +7

    You said about boundaries "you are not being selfish, you're being self-protective" I could almost cry. I really needed to hear that, because when I put down a boundary for my sister, she and my parents said that it was wrong of me to do so. That I should apologize for hurting my sister by putting that boundary. I told them it wasn't my intention to hurt her, but to protect myself. I've felt so guilty about it for a long time, doubting if I really did the right thing. It doesn't FEEL right you know, but going without the boundary wasn't working either..
    Is there any way to put a boundary and avoid such backlash?

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  5 років тому +4

      I'm witnessing you with compassion. Sometimes the people in our life will lash out when a boundary is set. You are changing the dance of how you've been interacting in the past, which means they are going to have to change and that can be uncomfortable. Unfortunately, there is no way to control someone else's reaction. But it sounds like you stuck up for yourself by explaining it was protect yourself. You can explain where you are coming from, but you don't need to defend your reasoning for the boundary. You keep doing what you need to do to feel safe.

    • @lonelyartist4
      @lonelyartist4 5 років тому +2

      @@terri_cole Thank you for your kind reply, and most of all thank you for your videos. I want to keep on learning how I can communicate better and have healthy relationships with others, your videos are of great help. Setting boundaries is just hard an painful sometimes I guess, but it is necessary

  • @dawnmertz8303
    @dawnmertz8303 Рік тому +1

    Thanks. I'm still learning how to set and hold boundaries.

  • @betterothstein9847
    @betterothstein9847 3 роки тому

    A powerhouse lecture by the one and only TERRI COLE... A POWERHOUSE therapist!

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  3 роки тому

      Thank you Bette!! 🥰🤗

  • @camcab147
    @camcab147 7 років тому +10

    Your mother sounds awesome! She taught you well and thank you for sharing your (and her) wisdom xx

  • @yvonner4738
    @yvonner4738 2 місяці тому +1

    Very helpful and I now feel free to do some 'housekeeping' with people in my life who as you put it 'add no value' - thank you - you are an inspiration ❤

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  2 місяці тому

      Woohoo, cheering you on! 🙌🙌

  • @kimberlyadams1300
    @kimberlyadams1300 7 років тому +3

    Wow. Thank you. That it's a privilege to be in my life is a statement that I haven't considered nearly enough. The temptation to recant the boundary and back-pedal is, for me, almost irresistible, because, hey, I wasn't NICE! The person is now POUTING! They are PETULANT! They lash out, because they are HURT! They are......MANIPULATIVE? CONSISTENTLY STRONG is a term I needed to hear, and I think your video just changed my life. Thank you.

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  7 років тому

      Thanks for sharing here with us Kimberly. It warms my hear to think the vid added value to your health and happiness ;)

  • @myogl
    @myogl 7 років тому +1

    Thank you for your work. SO valuable. I I want to give a shout out to your mother. What a precious gift she gave you when she told you you had permission to 'break up' with your friend ...and she supported you while you set that boundary. Beautiful role model!

  • @anastasiamaria1669
    @anastasiamaria1669 7 років тому +3

    Looking inward. I was on a conference call once with a woman who was speaking to an animal communicator who was telepathing with a whale and this woman wanted to ask about her desire to save the planet. The humpback whale told the communicator that if she truly wanted to save the planet to first go within and clean out her inner planet and in turn this action would affect the outer world and save the planet. That really left an impression on me. I thought that was such a piece of wisdom.
    You sound like a whale :o) - very wise. Great conversation and wonderful insight. Thank you for sharing this with the world.

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  7 років тому

      So happy the vid resonated with you, Anastasia

    • @anastasiamaria1669
      @anastasiamaria1669 7 років тому +1

      I understand where you are at Brutal Honesty and I hope one day you have the opportunity to walk this path that you have not discovered yet.

  • @angelafalsetta4309
    @angelafalsetta4309 7 років тому +7

    You worked hard for that, Terri!! And we got so much from it. I have gone no contact with the narcs and trying to make it for good! A family gone and I am alone! However, I am learning this with my other relationships. They have been used to having what they want from the brittle boundary me...But, I believe this is doable! We will see! Two girlfriend dropped recently as well. They were A LOT of work!! Oh, the drama and manipulation...I am well rid of them. Care about me?? Not at all!!! And they lost me...for good!

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  7 років тому +2

      Right on, Angela!! Go YOU!

    • @angelafalsetta4309
      @angelafalsetta4309 7 років тому +2

      Thank you for seeing me, Terri and reply!!! Thank you for everything...Stronger everyday we all are!! Set backs of course. You beautiful and kindred angel...Our guardian angel...You keep us from slipping and falling!! Backwards...you address our damage from every angle...You give us knowledge and strength...You give us hope when hope was not in sight...We can see it now!! I will be alone for the Holidays....all of them...for the first time in my life this year.....I will find a way even if I watch my festive Xmas tree and have the special dinner with a good and comforting xmas show on TV...And I won't be sitting at a table with cruel and torturing "family" members with pit in stomach, screaming inside...feeling so uncomfortable and out of place while these sinister and twisted people get their sadistic supply...and then say Merry Xmas with a gift in their hand! and open the gifts I so pathetically gave them..Yes, I was actually giving gifts to my sick abusers...The Narcissistic Family Unit with all the Dynamics....Thank you, Terri!! Bless you!! Purple LOVE!!

  • @sophienavarro4317
    @sophienavarro4317 7 років тому +7

    I really loved your video. You are amazing. I am learning so much about boundaries and how to really implement them more.
    I have been getting very impatient with people who just trample all over my boundaries. I am starting to get more vocal about what isn't acceptable. Your videos have helped me specifically this week. Thank you again for sharing!

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  7 років тому

      Warms my heart to hear it, Sophie! Keep up the great work and thank you for being here ;)

  • @jaclynh9343
    @jaclynh9343 6 років тому +7

    Holy crap! I so love you... What you share is sooooooo very valuable. You are doing such a great service to humanity.

  • @justinrvarga7236
    @justinrvarga7236 6 років тому

    It’s terrible. I’m praying for no contact. It’s taking a toll on my health and stress levels. Your videos have been a godsend.

  • @GentlRebel
    @GentlRebel 7 років тому +13

    Your boundary videos are amazing. Please keep them coming!

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  7 років тому +1

      So glad you like them and are here with me! More to come ;)

  • @contentomnivore
    @contentomnivore 6 років тому +2

    My mother didn't do boundaries. If I tried to set ANY she would accuse me of being disrespectful, talking to her like a child, challenging her or being difficult. ARRRGGHH!

  • @cbrisalchemist6887
    @cbrisalchemist6887 5 років тому

    My childhood was a challenge to autonomy. Narc mom had to control everything, even bodily functions...boundary setting has been THE greatest challenge in my life. Thanks for your passion, purpose, gifts...going to put on my boots now.

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  5 років тому +2

      Right on! You deserve to be in control of your own life.

  • @angierobinson1366
    @angierobinson1366 6 років тому +8

    I get so much from your videos. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with the world.

  • @anAngelisHard2find
    @anAngelisHard2find 7 років тому

    I am so impressed by your work. I loved the part where your mother actually defended your needs and gave you a solution - DRAW A BOUNDARY AND GET AWAY FROM THIS NARC. So I say to you, you were blessed to have a mom who responded in this way to you. My mom is the opposite of your mom.

  • @misssafia4013
    @misssafia4013 Рік тому

    Love the sit with the feeling of guilt after setting a boundary self love ❤️

  • @jannamartens9806
    @jannamartens9806 Рік тому +1

    Having healthy friends and cleaning house is always a great idea . I love the doesn’t even know me so many people don’t know me anymore.

  • @InnerIntegration
    @InnerIntegration 7 років тому +40

    You are wonderful! Thank you.

    • @svan6282
      @svan6282 6 років тому

      I love you advice. Help me a lot, I keeping listen you videos.. 👼🏻 you are an angel❤️🇨🇷🇨🇷tica.CR

    • @pranchhiber6908
      @pranchhiber6908 6 років тому

      Thanks from Deepti, India

    • @youtubestyle293
      @youtubestyle293 5 років тому

      Meredith you are not too bad yourself! :)

  • @LinYouToo
    @LinYouToo 5 років тому +1

    Beautiful and educational video. What sets your videos apart is your real life examples of what to say, how to say it, and how to be authentic. I feel I’ve learned so much from you and I’ve been able to practice in real time based on your examples in order to build my own confidence. I’d love a “part 2” to this.

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  5 років тому

      I am so glad to hear that!!! Thank you for being here!

  • @insightdesignusa
    @insightdesignusa 4 роки тому +1

    You’re so very good at what you do. Thank you. I am surrounded by boundary bullies, or was. I have directly benefited and have adopted your words and tone when my teenage daughter is out-of-sorts about a boundary bully in her life. My daughter and I are empathic and essentially the same concepts apply on an energetic level too. I choose who is allowed in my energetic field of love and awareness. I listen and take care of my energy first in self love. It makes it much easier to state my boundaries clearly and hold to them. Thank you

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  4 роки тому

      Thank you for your kind words! I am so glad it's resonating for you and helping you to grow.

  • @REJ5557
    @REJ5557 5 років тому +5

    I remember the last conversation with my narc.sister before the final discard, and it went something like. The context is that I’ve said no to something I didn’t want to do. My previous stance with my sister would have meant that my boundaries would collapse under th3 guilt tripping and shaming. Here we go:
    Sister: you can’t say no
    Me; I can and just did
    Sister: you’re so selfish
    Me: I’m sorry you feel that way
    Sister: you’ve never cared about anyone except yourself
    Me: hmmm, no I don’t agree with that. I love my husband and close friends very dearly.
    Sister: but you don’t care about me.
    Me: I know you probably don’t feel this but I wish you could know how much I do love you. You’re my sister and you have a special place in my heart, it’s just that I can’t go along with what you’re asking if me because it would involve breaking the law and committing a criminal offence, and that is something that I believe no human being should ask of another.
    Sister: but it’s only a criminal offence if you get caught, just don’t get caught.
    Me: I’m sorry but I can’t live a life that way, it goes against my moral values.
    Sister: You stuck up bitch!
    Me: please don’t use offensive language.
    Sister: so you’re not going to help.
    Me: I can’t help you in this particular matter.
    Sister: god you’re so selfish and spiteful
    Me: I’m sorry you feel that way. I know you’re disappointed but hope that you can find it in your heart to understand why I have to say no.
    Sister: you know that our mum (now deceased) always said you were selfish and uncaring.
    Me: you know, I’m aware of the conversations that took place behind my back, word got back to me through the family grapevine that mum was slagging me off to my siblings. I think it’s a shame that as a mother she chose to behave like that. It really didn’t help any of us (siblings) to develop healthy relationships.
    Sister: so now you’re saying our mother was a crap mother.
    Me: I’m saying that a healthy mother would not have done what she did. I don’t like the word crap, that’s a word that you’re using, I would say that she was an unhealthy person with issues.
    Sister: God you think you’re so superior to the rest of us.
    Me: No I don’t, but I have a clearer idea of my own boundaries these days.
    Sister: I’m gonna tell the family that won’t help me. You’re not going to have a single supporter in the family.
    Me: I’m not responsible for the decision to bring the rest of the family into this, I stand by my decision.
    Sister: you’ve changed.
    Me: I know. I had to change to become healthier.
    Sister: I preferred the person you used to be. You were much nicer.
    Me: well, we all change. I’m sorry that you don’t like me as I am now.
    Sister: This is your last chance before the shit is going to hit the fan.
    Me: I’ve said all I can say. I’ve said that I’m sorry that I can’t help you, I’ve given legitimate reasons for my decision, I asked that you try to understand, I can’t say anymore.
    Sister: whatever happens is your fault.
    Me: I can’t accept responsibility for anything that you do resulting from this, nor am I responsible if the rest of the family turns against me.
    She slammed the phone down after calling me a fxxking bitch. And yes I was discarded by her and my family over 5 years ago because I refused to engage in a criminal activity.

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  5 років тому +4

      Way to go for keeping your boundaries. Thank you for sharing your strength.

    • @REJ5557
      @REJ5557 5 років тому

      It sounds easy the way I wrote it but it took every bit of energy I had to maintain my boundaries. My sister is an expert boundary pusher, but then she had a good teacher in our mother. It’s so sad to see her like this because I genuinely love her. But I had to make a choice and change, and I don’t regret the path I chose as I have a great life with real friends. We are truly there for one another. They’re not perfect relationships because I don’t do perfect, but they are real and authentic and have love, trust and honesty as the foundation stones. ❤️

    • @user-gi6ee8vj1y
      @user-gi6ee8vj1y 5 років тому +3

      I would have ended the conversation the moment she disregarded my first no. I have no patience with boundary bullies.

  • @coachnursececille
    @coachnursececille Рік тому +2

    Thank you for these videos Terri! 🥰

  • @cjennings6179
    @cjennings6179 4 роки тому +1

    Rights & fears . You r SO SMART!!!

  • @angel772921
    @angel772921 3 роки тому

    Thank you Terri☺..this resounded with me on a deep level...at this point in my life on my healing journey, if anyone pushes a boundary and are toxic. Even when I stay calm and dignified and when my compassionate dialogue goes out the window and they double down...it's the last time they do..no more dancing with people who are determined not to understand me and care less too teaching common coutesy and kindness to an adult should not be my priority anymore!..the healthier I get the more I cannot and will not tolerate toxicity from anyone!. ..my house is extremely clean 😊. .ypur mother soundsas beautiful as you are..mine unfortunately was a very damaged soul to say the least!...it took me 53 years to lay the bou dary law down...hard lesson..many blessings & much love to you for all you do for us...💜

  • @mgkos
    @mgkos 5 років тому +1

    Huge appreciation for your work Terri.
    Q: when boundary bully is your adult child & uses passive aggression & mind games?
    The remark you made about playing in your guilt as they know you’re an ethical person, spot on & no....this isn’t what he was surrounded by or raised with at all, quite the reverse.
    Much of the behaviour has been influence of others incl. ex & child’s partner.

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  5 років тому

      You do not have to play his game. It's a dance because he thinks it will get a certain reaction. If you get clear on your boundaries and consistently hold firm by setting consequences (such as leaving the room) things will begin to shift. I'm sending you strength.

  • @danraubenheimer4115
    @danraubenheimer4115 4 роки тому

    I had two narc parents, I am now 42 and still trying to navigate the aftermath. Thank you for posting these vital videos, therapy is expensive and these are a great resource, especially in times of turmoil.

  • @stephtamall8896
    @stephtamall8896 5 років тому +2

    I grew up in Western Europe in the 60's and 70"s. No boundaries in my family. My mother was like Hitler and to humiliate me she forced me to undress in front of my brothers and father and hosed me down with cold water in the backyard. The purpose was for them to see that I was growing breasts and pubic hair. Boy did I cry the whole time while they all laughed. To this day, I resent them all but still have issues putting my foot down when "my friends" get pushy with their wants and ideas. What a constant battle! I give in and then hate them for it.

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  5 років тому +1

      Steph I am witnessing you with compassion. Thank you for sharing your story here with us.

  • @vikkivoss6247
    @vikkivoss6247 5 років тому +1

    You are such a wonderful person for doing these videos. I am on waiting list for therapy and can't ever seem to actually get an appointment. Listening to these are helping me in ways i never knew were possible. Thank you. This video is eerie to me, it felt like you have been observing me for my entire life. Thanks again! I appreciate you for doing this.

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  5 років тому

      You are so welcome, and I'm glad it resonated with you!

  • @cjennings6179
    @cjennings6179 4 роки тому +1

    Act LIKE A MANAGER. MANAGE BULLIES. HEALTHY. Maturity growth.
    Loyalty to myself/SELF-RESPECT/SELF-CONTROL& SELF-PRESERVATION: SURVIVALIST character.

    • @cjennings6179
      @cjennings6179 4 роки тому +1

      Rights to SET CLEAR & CONSISTENCY SKILLS. IS A HUMAN RIGHT. I'm WORTHY & deserving of these REASONABLE SKILLS. Get HEALTHY & GROWN UP. STOP the degradation. 🔑🔑🔑👀

  • @FaryalQayum
    @FaryalQayum 7 років тому +6

    Thank you, Terri! Beautiful talk.

  • @lalawawa9134
    @lalawawa9134 4 роки тому

    yup ...with your help, I set a boundary in a loving and firm way, and now I am feeling guilty about it. ...holding steady; thank you!

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  4 роки тому +1

      Keep steady and sending you strength!!

  • @mimikaro3723
    @mimikaro3723 6 років тому +6

    You say so much in your videos. You really wrap it up all

  • @mariamkinen8036
    @mariamkinen8036 4 роки тому

    My f as a narc cannot be made any deals with. My sis is a bully. Getting worse. You would not! want to meet them in person. Neither do I. You speak from your heart on the subjects .

  • @amanda6876
    @amanda6876 4 роки тому

    This is the type of video I’ll be listening to several times.

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  4 роки тому

      I'm glad to hear it resonated for you.

  • @bethelle9099
    @bethelle9099 8 місяців тому

    So glad that I found your channel, Terri. Very timely information for me and you present it with a very clear delivery. You have a great voice and presentation style for what you do here. I was the youngest of four and sort of the invisible child. Highly sensitive and dominated by everyone with no choices of my own. A common problem , I see. I am 68 and still being bullied by my narcissistic siblings. My sister isnt happy unless she is dominating something. She even treats her cats like dogs. They connect to me better than to her. Anyway, what a dysfunctional world we live in, right? All I have ever done is to try to survive. I have never flourished. Too many health problems. I dont know how much longer my body can last through all of my problems. But I know that I am not alone.
    Keep up the good work!
    Beth from Connecticut!

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  8 місяців тому

      I am so glad you found your way here too, Beth ❤️ You're so welcome here, and I am witnessing you with compassion and sending love.

  • @Maria__57
    @Maria__57 6 років тому +3

    I've answered your question on boundaries...rem.that only bc I fell in love with my narc boyfriend..later on my husband.. not having my boundaries respected as they had been before in my life began...I thought he would become better with the marriage..but he became worse...I had never loved..always been loved ..refusing who i did not love..so he for me was important..then I had 3 children..now grown ...thought that it was a way of being raised up..so few years ago i've discovered that he's a narc..before I though he couldn't help being the way he was..so evil..Now I know he chooses this bc it's convenient so he gets always his way....Finally I have stopped loving ...still together... all boundaries are now up & im waiting to see what GOD is about to do with my situation...bc HE'S the only one that really knows what's the best for me..& the vengeance belongs to Him...that knows our hearts...so for those that are with narcs..STOP LOVING THEM bc they take advantage of us ..if we love them..wait on GOD'S solution staying ...if you are unable to move away from them...forgive them bc they are unable to love..& as soon as possible MOVE ON TOTALLY AWAY FROM THEM...bc only being delivered by God of all their demons & sticking to it..will change them yelling them to be better PERSONS..God bless you all..:-)

  • @rathernotsayrathernotsay9829
    @rathernotsayrathernotsay9829 4 роки тому

    You have the most beautiful, easiest voice to listen to and it pulls me into your message which is explained so gently and effectively. I'm grateful for both and I'm so happy I found your channel! Thank You!

  • @elizabethlasseigne5361
    @elizabethlasseigne5361 3 роки тому

    THANK YOU!!!! I’ve learned more in the three videos I have seen of yours down in countless other ones. I feel empowered, enlightened, and free! You have a great gift! Thank you so much!❤️

  • @AlitaGunnm
    @AlitaGunnm 6 років тому +3

    Thank you !!!! I will listen to your tape several times . I really like this content . 💜👏🏼

  • @purplepod
    @purplepod 6 років тому +4

    This has been very healing for me thank you!!!💜🙏

  • @ggsplace69
    @ggsplace69 7 років тому +5

    Thank you Terri
    I am glad the you say that we can learn and change
    I hope so truly hope so

  • @melinoesedah9762
    @melinoesedah9762 5 років тому +3

    I had to enforce boundaries on my family members. At times they take it too far. After I separated from them I meet narcissist coworkers that trampled me. Supervisors and our fellow coworkers saw them for who they are. They were eventually fired. The last narcissist was the worse. She was a two-faced, manipulative bully. I had to change my work hours to get away from her or lose my sanity.

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  5 років тому +1

      Good for you for setting boundaries!

  • @caleuxx9108
    @caleuxx9108 7 років тому

    This is a great video. I just recently set a boundry with my brother (I was the parentified older child in a family with a NPD father and schizofrenic mother). Being concise is very very hard in "the heat of the battle", when the boundry bully begins to yell and throw manipulative statements. Stating a boundry that is not simple but requires saying a few sentences is almost impossible when the boundry bully responds verbally aggressively to the first sentence.

  • @tzenipappa2721
    @tzenipappa2721 6 років тому

    This video is so helpful for me because even though i always tried to set my boundaries, i suffered from guilt and doubts. I needed an encouragement that i never had, so thank you!

  • @stellamartinez6150
    @stellamartinez6150 5 років тому

    when you are only subject to the narcissus on a daily bases getting bullied everyday has been draining. He also says he is joking why he doing this so that it seam he doesn't really mean it or he feel don't feel this way. I have been letting him do this because he says I'm so up tight and don't know to play and take a joke. He is always testing my boundaries that can hurt us in our lives. Then we are struggling to fix problems that we have,

  • @LinYouToo
    @LinYouToo 5 років тому +1

    16:40 🙋‍♀️ oh so true! And 18:30 I’ve been cleaning house for the past 3 years. I’m no longer friends with two of my longest running friendships. I did try to work through them and grow but the growth was one-sided and the resistance was harsh and I had no choice but to move on. I can relate to what you said about your friend. I was scared too but I did it. I have put so many boundaries in place with my own mother too.

  • @lynclarke6184
    @lynclarke6184 6 років тому

    Thank you. I have just learned his to say no! In the past I have had three narcs in my life (apart from my mother) and found it easier to end the relationship. These people can make you do unhappy you should not give them the privilege of being a minute longer in your life. Thank you.

  • @marthaguevara1251
    @marthaguevara1251 6 років тому +3

    Awesome. Thank you Terri!

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  6 років тому

      You are so welcome, Martha!

  • @jbirdz3609
    @jbirdz3609 Рік тому

    💯 EXACTLY what I needed to hear right now 🙏 Thank you TC!! So blessed to have your guidance.

  • @Santiago_Apollo
    @Santiago_Apollo 4 роки тому

    Set your boundary and stay strong and stay strong consistently. This is childhood programming, but it sounds so permanent, no this programming can be rewritten, just like they started with small efforts to break you down, you can take big steps to undo this because you'll be aware and woke. You can do this, remember the reason they are doing this is because you have something they'll never possess or be, and you are stronger than they'll ever be. The work starts within yourself, running away doesn't solve the problem you could end up in a worst situation with a worst person because this bully has programmed a victim mindset into you. You true liberation comes when you build up the courage to stand up to them, you can't beat them in the argument or smear campaign cause they are masters at that. But you can expose them, the bullies biggest fear is being exposed and humiliated... this is your liberation! You must understand what is happening to you and why it's happening - you'll never be able to live your life if you dont go through this... you'll be stronger than they'll ever be.

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much for sharing this message and for helping to inspire others.

  • @catthearts
    @catthearts 6 років тому

    People are in love with us changing... Whew!!!! That was good!!!!

  • @SheEsq
    @SheEsq 7 років тому +3

    Thank you for the wonderful guidance and sharing you are doing. i really need this and have no person in my life to show me the way. Signed up for bootcamp

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  7 років тому

      Right on, Sharon! Welcome ;)

  • @tc2333
    @tc2333 7 років тому

    Thank you for these points. I had a similar situation a year and a half ago but I told the person a week earlier that I would not be available about the same time you're describing in your video. However the person tried to break the boundary that morning of the event when I told her I wasn't available and I stood my ground and did not do it. The next day she called angry and asked why and then I let her know I had already told her. So that's something to be aware of and be prepared for it as well

  • @patriciastewart2537
    @patriciastewart2537 5 років тому +4

    Aha! My default guilt and shame is from a totalitarian, too strict childhood upbringing. Any boundary I may have wanted was ''wrong'', rebelious, and ''bad''.

    • @terri_cole
      @terri_cole  5 років тому +1

      Luckily the same way you learned- you can now UN-learn! Sending you strength to stay on this healing journey, Patricia!

  • @alexandernay5631
    @alexandernay5631 6 років тому +3

    I love this, thank you Terri! 😊

  • @etrangers2008
    @etrangers2008 7 років тому +7

    Amazing content as always! Very valuable..

  • @workingonme7985
    @workingonme7985 6 років тому +4

    Thanks so much!! I am new and extremely ready to learn!

  • @JesusSaves77799
    @JesusSaves77799 5 років тому

    Excellent video! My only negative gut reaction is that I think there is a kind way to exit a relationship rather than just a harsh “breakup” (unless that is absolutely necessary). I believe in the redemptive power of Christ (and also that most narcissists won’t come back for more once they realize you are serious and “get” them). However, there is always a kind way to back away from something and people can change and apologize even many years later!

  • @adinevanhulst
    @adinevanhulst 3 роки тому

    Sooo helpful!! Thank you so much!! Keep the videos coming

  • @VishalUpadhyay95
    @VishalUpadhyay95 7 років тому +3

    I love you. That's all I have to say. No other words.

  • @praveennarayanan8828
    @praveennarayanan8828 4 роки тому

    Great. I do not want to lower my integrity for other's sake. I will be a Boundary Ninja. 👍

  • @tmccray5510
    @tmccray5510 6 років тому +1

    My mother is a narcissist and in my home boundaries did not exist, when I was 18 I had to pick a lock on my bedroom door because my brother aways forget to knock before entering my room so I place a lock on my door so he wouldn't keep your smart him in my mother never taught us boundaries to any of her children. 😞 I feel so late learning this knowledge.