🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and form provided on this format and subject matter on the Sherman class cargo vessel ships and all of their functions and various duties and mission parameters along with their Defensive capabilities as well, A job very nicely well done indeed Sir!...
Hello TriAngulum. Yes, the Sherman was a good class of ship, and had many good features... but along with passenger carry capacity, at least a few were used to ferry large numbers of troops to battlefronts on occasion. I used to play Starfleet Battles, and other such 'Trek' style board games. In them, I tried to obtain Sherman class ships, and barring that, to create a 'Sherman clone' from other ship types. My most successful version was a 'troop carrier' version of the Miranda class, and turning several others into mobile Fighter Carrier ships.
lets say it has the same shields as a constitution. low profile, same speed, same guns. no wonder these things were tougher then most other ships of the era. it might be boring, but if i was a jr officer working on a thesis or something to get an advanced degree this might be something to volunteer for a year or two on.
It seems like a design that should come out at a similar time to the Excelsior class as it looks to share the same warp nacelle technology. With the move towards phaser strips on ships if the line, having a relatively lightly armed cargo class that can use all those now surplus phaser turrets that Starfleet would be sitting on makes a lot of sense as well as some of the older style torpedo launchers.
Tarsus 4 was a point of order. Led to the massacre ordered by Kodos. You mentioned that one starship - the USS Constellation was one of these. That arrived there.
4:00 I would think that colony would've at least had some food replicators or synthesizers to help supplement their food supply. Do you have a date TriAngulum when replicators where first available in the Federation? I assume with all the tech from all the member species, including the highly advanced Vulcans, that technology like that would've been regularly available. I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong 😅😅😅
I can't wait for your next video and to see what ship you will do next. But I have A question for you. Have you done any videos on Shuttlecraft ? As we will be seeing some in S2 of Starnge New Worlds. And we did get to see A lot of them in the first and second season of Discovery and S3 of Picard too.
No not yet, though I have written (attempted to write) some... But Ive never been able to nail down what I want to do with those stories ;) But Ill try again :)
Looks like an Excelsior class variant. Liked the Shelley/Curry class as a transport/logistics support variant of the Excelsior that could had a train of supply pods attached to it similar to this class.
I can't find this Model / Hull design anywhere. The only USS sheman that pops up is that boxy drone cargo ship. Is this an actual 3D purchase online model?
So this got me thinking, why do we even need cargo vessels? Wouldn’t it be easier for most cargo to be stored as data, and then just have ships that contain sufficient raw materials and energy to transport down to the surface whatever items were needed? At some point in Star Trek canon, it must be the case, the transporter buffers would become a way to not only store the staples of life, but to manufacture them. And so all you would need, would be one scan of any particular, good, and you could have as much of it as you need. And then, in the instance of materials, food, or other objects, that, for some reason resisted being stored in this way, could you not still use the transporter buffer to being unique versions of those into it, and then bring them back out at the target location?
At first, I was upset that your backstory included the death of Hoshi Sato at the hands of Governor Kodos... But given her history learning from Captain Archer, she would be one of the 1st chosen by Kodos to put down any resistance to his edicts because she would never stand for 1/2 the population to be executed to save the remaining colonists
The death of Hoshi is NOT my Backstory, it's canon, from the Enterprise Episode "In a Mirror Darkly" Part 2... When Archer says to Mirror Hoshi, that the computer even says how she died, that's what he's reading on the screen!
Did starfleet core of emgineers during the dommion war were able to do emerancy retofit on the sherman class to be used in back water caego needs clower tue the federation neutrolzones of the romulan star empire and klingon defence force
That different, Shermen class cargo star ship of Star Trek Cargo Duty Sci-fi movie 🎬 t.v. series neat ,Cool different, wow. Good day all.California cool morning Warm afternoon.
No it doesnt, not at all! By the time of this videos subject matter, the Ptolemy was an aged and decommissioned class! And no refit was ever done on it!
Isn't smaller then the Ptolemy class? The Ptolemy class looks to have more cargo space. The Sherman class would be perfect as an escort for a convoy of Ptolemies while carrying cargo itself using transit. Ideally Shermans would be better suited for outer, less safer frontiers as the Ptolemy class isn't as heavily armed.
The Prolemy Class was old, sluggish, and at the end of her lifetime by this classes introduction... And the video DOES say this class was for the outer frontier! ;)
The problem with cargo ships is that they can't defend themselves they need to be equipped with "powerful" forward and aft weapons and equipped with hull armor also cargo ships need fast engines.
Well first, not everything can be replicated. Highly complex molecular patterns still need to be made the old fashioned way. IE Certain Medicines, Energy Conversion Sources like Dilithium, Toxic materials like Pergium needed for Life Support Systems etc... Second, supply and demand. Having already made materials, shipped to where they need to be is faster then making 1 item at a time. Lastly, energy and material cost. Replicators dont run on magic. They take stored broken down materials at a molecular level and reconstitute them in to other items. So what do you do when you dont have the materials or energy required to make what your colony needs to survive? So there are MANY reasons, Cargo ships are required!
Somehow I think the people who design "cargo ships" for Star Trek have no grasp or conception about what they're doing...they're essentially designing a "starship" and slapping the tag "cargo ship" on it and then grinning like kid with a sno-cone. Look at the cargo ships we have today and compare the volume on a simple Panamax container ship to this ship...there's no comparison; the Trek ship doesn't have near the lift capacity. Yes, they may have replicators, but they still need raw materials and that takes volume. Kudos to the guy who designed this, but there really needs to be some small amount of reality injected into these designs.
Because, it's not just as simple as saying "I want to do this ship" as I am not a 3d Modeler, and need a 3d Model to make a video... I can kitbash together existing models in to limited designs (designs that use existing parts) but not whole new designs... If you want to become a higher teir Patreon of mine, you can make that request and I can commission someone to make it! www.patreon.com/TAStudios
I didnt mention MANY Cargo Classes, because they have no direct bearing on this story... The PTolemy Class being a class that was finishing it's lifetime by the time this class came in to operation! So No, no mention of the PTolemy Class!
Yes, as we've seen both the other mentioned Cargo Starships in Canon itself, and I used them as merely an example as the story says, meaning there were others... Rather then mentioning a far more obscure Beta Canon Class as well! If every video I mentioned every other class with the same mission profile, my videos would be long and boring! So as Commander Tucker would say, "Keep yer shirt on!"
The death of Hoshi is NOT my Backstory, it's canon, from the Enterprise Episode "In a Mirror Darkly" Part 2... When Archer says to Mirror Hoshi, that the computer even says how she died, that's what he's reading on the screen! And so, if it's a swing and a miss, you need to blame Enterprise for that ;) Besides, she would most definitely be culled, given her advanced age ;)
Interessting Design. Looks like a step between Constitution and Exelsior class.
more like an NX saucer and Excelsior hull and nacelles.
To win a battle you talk tactics, to win a war you talk logistics.
Perfect!
Neat ship with a great design:) great story on it:) (That Hoshi thing made me gasp, btw.)
Glad you liked it! And I like to shock the audience through my extensive research ;) :P
I was surprised, so I checked Memory Alpha, and then I was surprised again. Holy crappinoli.
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and form provided on this format and subject matter on the Sherman class cargo vessel ships and all of their functions and various duties and mission parameters along with their Defensive capabilities as well, A job very nicely well done indeed Sir!...
Does look really well-thought out, whoever designed that.
Indeed :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios and yet: No Impulse engine visable?
They're right at the back... Just not active!
I like the design. I would love to see a STO successor to this ship design.
Bravo, loved this well.
Great designed ship and back story.
Many thanks!
Hello TriAngulum.
Yes, the Sherman was a good class of ship, and had many good features... but along with passenger carry capacity, at least a few were used to ferry large numbers of troops to battlefronts on occasion.
I used to play Starfleet Battles, and other such 'Trek' style board games. In them, I tried to obtain Sherman class ships, and barring that, to create a 'Sherman clone' from other ship types. My most successful version was a 'troop carrier' version of the Miranda class, and turning several others into mobile Fighter Carrier ships.
Great video and story as always!! This video and most importantly YOU sir are NERD APPROVED!!
Thank you kindly! Glad you enjoy my videos ;)
I agree. Triangulum does have the best stories based on Beta canon sources.
Did you just kill Hoshi Sato???
Lol Noooooo, The bio written for her in the Ent Episode "In a Mirror Darkly" part 2 Did!
A bold history, for a bold future. And he totally killed Hoshi.
got to admit, that was bold choice.
Lol Love it Lol :)
Now I despise the Governor even more.
And of course the return of a key piece of cargo.. the Trucker Hat.
Hey I named a ship called the Sherman she's my tank build in sto lol nice video as always
Thank you!
Your channel has a great new backdrop on the home page. Thank you for another video. LLAP🖖
Glad you like it! Thank you!
lets say it has the same shields as a constitution. low profile, same speed, same guns. no wonder these things were tougher then most other ships of the era. it might be boring, but if i was a jr officer working on a thesis or something to get an advanced degree this might be something to volunteer for a year or two on.
Anyway well-armed little freighter. More trouble to mess with than it's worth for most raiders.
Absolutely!
I sense a Mr. peabody and Sherman reference in here somewhere.
"The Way-Back Machine"!!!!!
It seems like a design that should come out at a similar time to the Excelsior class as it looks to share the same warp nacelle technology. With the move towards phaser strips on ships if the line, having a relatively lightly armed cargo class that can use all those now surplus phaser turrets that Starfleet would be sitting on makes a lot of sense as well as some of the older style torpedo launchers.
Tarsus 4 was a point of order. Led to the massacre ordered by Kodos. You mentioned that one starship - the USS Constellation was one of these. That arrived there.
We all know that Hoshi would have fought against the governor and died heroically.
Hoshi Sato was a badass. She had to grow into it, sure, but she was amazing. The Federation wouldn't be what it was without her.
Thank you very much for this nice Video
You are most welcome :)
4:00 I would think that colony would've at least had some food replicators or synthesizers to help supplement their food supply. Do you have a date TriAngulum when replicators where first available in the Federation? I assume with all the tech from all the member species, including the highly advanced Vulcans, that technology like that would've been regularly available. I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong 😅😅😅
Kind of ironic. General Sherman march to the sea through Georgia was mostly unsuppllied and lived off the land.
Nice theories knitted together and presentation! 👍 it's a cool design.
But I wish the ship was designed by Jay Sherman. 😏😁
LOL thank you!
I can't wait for your next video and to see what ship you will do next. But I have A question for you. Have you done any videos on Shuttlecraft ? As we will be seeing some in S2 of Starnge New Worlds. And we did get to see A lot of them in the first and second season of Discovery and S3 of Picard too.
No not yet, though I have written (attempted to write) some... But Ive never been able to nail down what I want to do with those stories ;) But Ill try again :)
Looks like an Excelsior class variant. Liked the Shelley/Curry class as a transport/logistics support variant of the Excelsior that could had a train of supply pods attached to it similar to this class.
Noooooo why’d they gotta fridge Hoshi like that??
I can't find this Model / Hull design anywhere. The only USS sheman that pops up is that boxy drone cargo ship. Is this an actual 3D purchase online model?
So I had to rewatch the Kodos episode so i now need to know what is double red alert
LOL
Dude straight up pulling a Thanos (or maybe Thanos straight up copying him :)
Lol Love it!
Can you do the shangri la class because it has a really cool design and its a fan ship
If you can get me a 3d Model of it :P
Omg Hoshi Sato xD why?
Because that was her fate ;)
So this got me thinking, why do we even need cargo vessels? Wouldn’t it be easier for most cargo to be stored as data, and then just have ships that contain sufficient raw materials and energy to transport down to the surface whatever items were needed? At some point in Star Trek canon, it must be the case, the transporter buffers would become a way to not only store the staples of life, but to manufacture them. And so all you would need, would be one scan of any particular, good, and you could have as much of it as you need.
And then, in the instance of materials, food, or other objects, that, for some reason resisted being stored in this way, could you not still use the transporter buffer to being unique versions of those into it, and then bring them back out at the target location?
Yes that IS the case, and occurs something in between 2402 and the 32nd Century, as we see that tech in that century!
At first, I was upset that your backstory included the death of Hoshi Sato at the hands of Governor Kodos...
But given her history learning from Captain Archer, she would be one of the 1st chosen by Kodos to put down any resistance to his edicts because she would never stand for 1/2 the population to be executed to save the remaining colonists
The death of Hoshi is NOT my Backstory, it's canon, from the Enterprise Episode "In a Mirror Darkly" Part 2... When Archer says to Mirror Hoshi, that the computer even says how she died, that's what he's reading on the screen!
@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics thanks, I'd forgotten that 🙂
No problem! :)
Not Sato why!!!
Because that (sadly) was her fate ;)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios no way!!! Poor Sato, I would have like a nicer ending to her story, Fleet Admiral, grandchildren etc...
@@antoniosanjurjo8442 She would have been 117 years old in 2246, so all of that could have still happened.
Did starfleet core of emgineers during the dommion war were able to do emerancy retofit on the sherman class to be used in back water caego needs clower tue the federation neutrolzones of the romulan star empire and klingon defence force
Sadly no, by that time most of these vessels had been completely stripped down out of existence!
They killed Hoshi!
You bastards!
That different, Shermen class cargo star ship of Star Trek Cargo Duty Sci-fi movie 🎬 t.v. series neat ,Cool different, wow. Good day all.California cool morning Warm afternoon.
Nothing was mentioned about the Franz Joseph transport/tug ship.
Yeah and? I dont mention every starship class in existence in each video I make, that would be silly!
But it does play a pivotal role in the subject matter.
No it doesnt, not at all! By the time of this videos subject matter, the Ptolemy was an aged and decommissioned class! And no refit was ever done on it!
Looks similar to the FASA Baker class destroyer
Not even close to looking like the Baker Class! lol
Isn't smaller then the Ptolemy class? The Ptolemy class looks to have more cargo space. The Sherman class would be perfect as an escort for a convoy of Ptolemies while carrying cargo itself using transit. Ideally Shermans would be better suited for outer, less safer frontiers as the Ptolemy class isn't as heavily armed.
The Prolemy Class was old, sluggish, and at the end of her lifetime by this classes introduction... And the video DOES say this class was for the outer frontier! ;)
The problem with cargo ships is that they can't defend themselves they need to be equipped with "powerful" forward and aft weapons and equipped with hull armor also cargo ships need fast engines.
You mean like this class has? :P
Love Star Trek and all... But with replicators, from portable to heavy industrial, why do they need Cargo Ships in the first place....
Well first, not everything can be replicated. Highly complex molecular patterns still need to be made the old fashioned way. IE Certain Medicines, Energy Conversion Sources like Dilithium, Toxic materials like Pergium needed for Life Support Systems etc...
Second, supply and demand. Having already made materials, shipped to where they need to be is faster then making 1 item at a time.
Lastly, energy and material cost. Replicators dont run on magic. They take stored broken down materials at a molecular level and reconstitute them in to other items. So what do you do when you dont have the materials or energy required to make what your colony needs to survive?
So there are MANY reasons, Cargo ships are required!
At what point would Starfleet start moving cargo stored in special high capacity transporter buffers?
Not until sometime after s3 of Picard, and before the 31st Century as seen in canon!
Somehow I think the people who design "cargo ships" for Star Trek have no grasp or conception about what they're doing...they're essentially designing a "starship" and slapping the tag "cargo ship" on it and then grinning like kid with a sno-cone. Look at the cargo ships we have today and compare the volume on a simple Panamax container ship to this ship...there's no comparison; the Trek ship doesn't have near the lift capacity. Yes, they may have replicators, but they still need raw materials and that takes volume.
Kudos to the guy who designed this, but there really needs to be some small amount of reality injected into these designs.
Why don't you do the federation heavy carrier MacArthur😢
Because, it's not just as simple as saying "I want to do this ship" as I am not a 3d Modeler, and need a 3d Model to make a video... I can kitbash together existing models in to limited designs (designs that use existing parts) but not whole new designs... If you want to become a higher teir Patreon of mine, you can make that request and I can commission someone to make it! www.patreon.com/TAStudios
You had to show 'that' episode?
What are you talking about?
No mention of the Ptolemy class? Really?
I didnt mention MANY Cargo Classes, because they have no direct bearing on this story... The PTolemy Class being a class that was finishing it's lifetime by the time this class came in to operation! So No, no mention of the PTolemy Class!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios BUT you brought up other freight/cargo ships predating it. It was in service during TOS era.
Yes, as we've seen both the other mentioned Cargo Starships in Canon itself, and I used them as merely an example as the story says, meaning there were others... Rather then mentioning a far more obscure Beta Canon Class as well! If every video I mentioned every other class with the same mission profile, my videos would be long and boring! So as Commander Tucker would say, "Keep yer shirt on!"
Hold on! Hoshi was murdered by Kodod? Where is this written?
The bio written for her in the Ent Episode "In a Mirror Darkly" part 2
Someone of Hoshi Saito’s stature would not have been picked for the culling that would be a swing and a miss on your part
The death of Hoshi is NOT my Backstory, it's canon, from the Enterprise Episode "In a Mirror Darkly" Part 2... When Archer says to Mirror Hoshi, that the computer even says how she died, that's what he's reading on the screen!
And so, if it's a swing and a miss, you need to blame Enterprise for that ;) Besides, she would most definitely be culled, given her advanced age ;)
Vessels?
Surely you mean "wessels"?
Lol