I remember hearing about a case where an 18 year old man had CTE from playing football. And to my recollection, it was a severe form of it. Who knows how the mind will react to repeated blows like that. This was an 18 year old kid. And yes, he is deceased. His brain was studied.
I know this was 4 yrs ago, but I agree with you mickey. I might be an optimist, but I believe people are innately good. I don't think a person does evil things is necessarily evil, because it's all relative to our own definition of the word itself. I think we are products of our decisions, which are products of circumstance. I wish he made different choices. I wish he was on different circumstances. I'm not excusing his actions, but I have empathy for anyone who makes these decisions because they have so little regard for life, including their own.
I'm here after watching the Netflix series on Hernandez's case. What a story. But at the end of the day, what the guy said in the end in the series was true, whatever factor the people want to blame, Hernandez's decisions were made. He MADE those decisions, no hesitation.
This is SO biased. The man didn't just have CTE. He had... and I quote... "One of the worst cases doctors have ever seen" he was only 27 years old!!! To sit here and pretend as if that was not at all a contributing factor to his circumstances is grossly irresponsible!!!
@@raymond8770are you sure how do you know, because you know some people out their are that ignorant like Stephen i hate people like him who think like that.
Dominic p yes he did I read about that . As in any death , Why is normal But with Aaron was it's who ...He just got accuital makes no sense . I'm for facts not propaganda of opinions . Thanks for acknowledging the disease itself .
John Doe A lot of people say that and don't really know what it means. Saying correlation doesn't equal causation simply means that you leave room for the possibility that one or more variables can possibly explain the correlation better but that's something that ultimately needs to be supplied. If you can't muster a better correlative variable than you must take the one that has been thoroughly tested as your best determinant. And in this case that correlation is well researched.
If you're concerned about having CTE, Please seek help. It's not shameful to admit you're dealing with issues. I started my journey after Jr Seau's suicide. Please start with one step towards help. There's more knowledge and understanding out there now. I've had had the wrong therapist and changed to another that "Gets it." Please seek help and find someone that can support you in your own journey towards understanding... You can find peace without suicide!
Arrested at 23 after a lifetime of abuse & football... brain had the worst case of cte seen in anyone 27 yrs old! CTE CONTRIBUTED! One of MANY factors, but these guys want to protect football & refuse to accept football had any responsibility! He said it... do you want his family to be able to sue the nfl. Ugh Pathetic!
@@alohasnackbar5619 Yes however they would not even consider it a possibility & the reason is extremely clear as some still won't even aknowledge football can cause cte sadly :o(
I didn't see anyone blaming his behavior on CTE. The study just said he had a debilitating case of CTE. The report said he had the brain of a 67 yr old man.
yet he had stage 3 CTE... "I don't wanna hear about CTE" lol okay then. unless you address the behavioural changes CTE can cause, I don't think we should be under looking anything. prime example of medical issues with not enough known about them, being overlooked. who knows this could be avoidable in the future.
Discussing mental health is a slippery slope. Unless you have experience with it, rather that be personally or being educated about it, its better left undiscussed by sed people. We all have things about us that are not on the up and up(Hernandez was obviously a narcissist). But when brain injury or imipairment is added to the mix, it can get very complex and complicated when trying to access an individuals decision making. Its like being drunk. If your a jerk before driking, typically the alcohol just make you more of one. Sensitivity is key to understanding anything; But so is accountability.
These guys are trying really hard to deny CTE can cause violent behavior. They don't know what they're talking about. Hernandez family are NOT looking for sympathy, just answers and it's not so far fetched to start with football and CTE. NFL owners are among the wealthiest people on earth and they are the ones profiting from injuries and suffering of the players. The owners are so greedy they actually find ways to make taxpayers to fund their little roman coliseums of carnage. When will the owners own up to their responsibility in this? Never. The money is more important to them.
I was agreeing with this video until the third guy talked....CTE isn't an excuse for behavior as much as bipolarism is. But it is a cause. If there is CTE effects on Aarons brain, it won't lesson his guilt...example: I think Jovon Belcher of the KC Chiefs had CTE. did it make light of what he did? no....but it helped explain the rational. It Aaron had CTE, it won't excuse the actions, but it will help explain his thought prices and mental state. The family just wants to see if there was a problem mentally or not....example again: there is a difference between someone with chronic depression who commits suicide and someone with no mental illnesses who does the same thing.
we should not to be judging. Is hard for a mother to accept her son committed a criminal act. she has questions , maybe she would never find the answers. I don't think she is in denial.
In my honest opinion, victims of CTE are too scared to get professional help. And by that, I mean victims of CTE know that there is something wrong with them, but they cannot tell what is wrong with them, so they end up not thinking straight and end up taking the coward's way out by killing innocent victims on purpose and committing suicide on purpose out of premeditation. And the stupid thing is, CTE examiners can only examine damaged human brains after the person/people who has/have suffered from CTE is/are dead. It has to be the other way around, as in seek professional help immediately and not take the coward's way out. Makes sense, right? There's no doubt in my mind that is what had happened with WWE wrestler Chris Benoit.
How ironic-Stephen A. saying this and it really was CTE...Doc said it was the worst case of CTE she had ever seen. Decision making is a factor, it was probably just getting worse over the years...
Who believes he was innocent and this was not a suicide... Why did they report that there was no note found. Now 3 notes have been found. Who believe this or not
ZoodleInfo I don't believe it at all. Because he has a daughter and a fiance/ baby mama. He woulda left a letter or something to explain himself. Something just isn't right about this case at all. It breaks my heart to even know that there's a baby involved. I pray that God forgives him if he really did kill that man intentionally. I also pray for all his family and close friends for a speedy recovery after this tragedy. 😭😭😥💔💔
Having CTE and being a murderer are not mutually exclusive. You can be both. Did CTE impact his ability to murder? I don't know, but I can't rule that out 100%.
We don't know how much CTE affected him. Not enough research has been done. These guys are making too many assumptions and educated guesses. Why not wait for more evidence to be brought forth.
Ok if they are gonna let Aaron Hernandez off the hook for those deaths because of CTE then the same has to happen with Chris Benoit who was actually much older than Hernandez. But in my opinion Hernandez turned into a street thug some time early in his life and he never let it go.
Atlas orthogonal can help. Try it bc medical docs have no answers. It reversed all my sons symptoms from a severe head/neck trauma. It is easy and safe.
Aaron Hernandez behavior problem was strictly emotional due to his father's passing. I see all the time before a love one passes some people pray and pray hope that god answers and when their love one still passes they turn to a dark place. In his case it seems there was no one there to pull him out.
His entire frontal lobe was not there. What Aaron did just as well as he played football, was to play off what his reality was like. His brain was atrophying and looked like a67 year old man with dementia. His reality was not like someone’s with a healthy 27 yr old brain.
I have bipolar disorder I've had a few concussions I'm not killing people I'm not carrying guns if I go to a bar I don't need a babysitter. Fact is Aaron Hernandez was just a bad guy and people need to stop dancing around that
Well that's good but look man you should understand that CTE or anything like that is the reason for that. Because their have been other NFL players with the same issues not the mention man and weman who fight in the United states military surfers from mental illness. Now people like you can your acting in certain ways but that doesn't mean that theirs still not a reason. And i don't think people were babysitting Aaron so what did you mean.
this why I don't watch first take anymore. there not human disgusting human being talk to Jesus Aaron made a mistake everyone does only true believers in Jesus will feel sorry for Aaron RIP
Molly is a big AH fan, constantly taking his side or justifying his behaviour and actions, making excuses and theories on his behalf. The host should be impartial as a starting point, and we would expect her to have a basic level of morality and values. It's a pity that is not the case, she needs to check herself for sure.
I remember hearing about a case where an 18 year old man had CTE from playing football. And to my recollection, it was a severe form of it. Who knows how the mind will react to repeated blows like that. This was an 18 year old kid. And yes, he is deceased. His brain was studied.
literally here after watching the final episode of american football story aaron hernandez
he's been playing football since he was little young kids people get cte when there young and don't know it 90% of people don't know they have it
never heard so much judgement as I have in the past few years. anyone who has lost their life deserves compassion.
Richard Kuklinski lost his life in prison. Go look him up, then tell me he deserves compassion. Have fun.
@@Vladpryde period
my compassion for hernandez is lost because he took another persons life.
I know this was 4 yrs ago, but I agree with you mickey. I might be an optimist, but I believe people are innately good. I don't think a person does evil things is necessarily evil, because it's all relative to our own definition of the word itself. I think we are products of our decisions, which are products of circumstance. I wish he made different choices. I wish he was on different circumstances. I'm not excusing his actions, but I have empathy for anyone who makes these decisions because they have so little regard for life, including their own.
aye leave his daughter out of it she four have respect for children who dont understand
rip Aaron Hernandez and Odin Lloyd
I want Stephen a smith to get busted with weed so bad lol the one guy who hates weed needs weed the most
anthony cheesman no one NEEDS weed apart from those who use it for medical purposes.
Glock Van Draco you need to chill the fuck out and take a hit on this blunt
you seem like the one that needs to chill
Weed makes me paranoid, I like coke better.
I highly doubt any one cares about sas tokin up
theory: aaron had brain dramage which caused rage and hallucinations
Hernandez was a bad guy but what's wrong with the family studying his brain to see if he has anything. It's not an excuse
@Martin Not the family's problem
And turns out he did have severe CTE
I'm here after watching the Netflix series on Hernandez's case. What a story. But at the end of the day, what the guy said in the end in the series was true, whatever factor the people want to blame, Hernandez's decisions were made. He MADE those decisions, no hesitation.
This is SO biased.
The man didn't just have CTE. He had... and I quote...
"One of the worst cases doctors have ever seen" he was only 27 years old!!! To sit here and pretend as if that was not at all a contributing factor to his circumstances is grossly irresponsible!!!
Yeah the guy really used his head. Except at the end.
this was before the results came out i think
@@raymond8770are you sure how do you know, because you know some people out their are that ignorant like Stephen i hate people like him who think like that.
An 18 year old killed himself and they found CTE in his brain from playing football
I'm 18 and I play football.
I should probably stop huh
Correlation doesn't mean causation.
Did you guys skip 6th grade science????
Dominic p yes he did I read about that . As in any death , Why is normal But with Aaron was it's who ...He just got accuital makes no sense . I'm for facts not propaganda of opinions .
Thanks for acknowledging the disease itself .
John Doe You might be in denial.
John Doe A lot of people say that and don't really know what it means. Saying correlation doesn't equal causation simply means that you leave room for the possibility that one or more variables can possibly explain the correlation better but that's something that ultimately needs to be supplied. If you can't muster a better correlative variable than you must take the one that has been thoroughly tested as your best determinant.
And in this case that correlation is well researched.
THEY JUST DONATED THE BRAIN FOR SCIENCE!!!
They aren't blaming CTE for his actions.
And he had the brain of an 80 year old lol
And how do you know that.
hate how he brought up weed smoking lol
DA REAL Johnny Appleseed he killed ppl cuz he smoked weed lol its all weeds fault
DA REAL Johnny Appleseed maybe if he took weed he wouldn't be so mad all the time lol
anthony cheesman u don't take weed tf nigga lol
@@DJProductions09 lol you are dumb
@Tom Anderson it usually makes you more relaxed not angry
It is 100% from getting hit in the head. Don't hit anyone on their head ever. That surely is a sin.
Last comment by Stephen A is 1st time I'm saying Bravo to him
Imagine your mind being your enemy. Your ego cannot overpower it.
C t e is not an excuse and you shouldn't be the one talking unless you're the one that was out there taken constant head shots
since when did first take become a cast of doctors? tf do they know
If you're concerned about having CTE, Please seek help. It's not shameful to admit you're dealing with issues. I started my journey after Jr Seau's suicide. Please start with one step towards help. There's more knowledge and understanding out there now.
I've had had the wrong therapist and changed to another that "Gets it." Please seek help and find someone that can support you in your own journey towards understanding... You can find peace without suicide!
I Don't Feel Sorry For Aaron Hernandez
@@TheMusicHeals.kjhjhhg DAMN! THAT WAS HARDDD
Arrested at 23 after a lifetime of abuse & football... brain had the worst case of cte seen in anyone 27 yrs old! CTE CONTRIBUTED! One of MANY factors, but these guys want to protect football & refuse to accept football had any responsibility!
He said it... do you want his family to be able to sue the nfl.
Ugh Pathetic!
Well the documentary and the info that he did have CTE wasnt confirmed during this episode of first take.
@@alohasnackbar5619
Yes however they would not even consider it a possibility & the reason is extremely clear as some still won't even aknowledge football can cause cte sadly :o(
@@JustMeELC You’re an idiot.
I didn't see anyone blaming his behavior on CTE. The study just said he had a debilitating case of CTE. The report said he had the brain of a 67 yr old man.
Rip Aaron Hernandez
yet he had stage 3 CTE... "I don't wanna hear about CTE" lol okay then. unless you address the behavioural changes CTE can cause, I don't think we should be under looking anything. prime example of medical issues with not enough known about them, being overlooked. who knows this could be avoidable in the future.
Shut up you idiot. CTE doesn’t make you murder. Just STFU
Discussing mental health is a slippery slope. Unless you have experience with it, rather that be personally or being educated about it, its better left undiscussed by sed people. We all have things about us that are not on the up and up(Hernandez was obviously a narcissist). But when brain injury or imipairment is added to the mix, it can get very complex and complicated when trying to access an individuals decision making. Its like being drunk. If your a jerk before driking, typically the alcohol just make you more of one. Sensitivity is key to understanding anything; But so is accountability.
Why in the world would ESPN leave it to these sports broadcasters to discuss CTE? Bring in a doctor.
He played football starting at 6 years old.
These guys are trying really hard to deny CTE can cause violent behavior. They don't know what they're talking about. Hernandez family are NOT looking for sympathy, just answers and it's not so far fetched to start with football and CTE. NFL owners are among the wealthiest people on earth and they are the ones profiting from injuries and suffering of the players. The owners are so greedy they actually find ways to make taxpayers to fund their little roman coliseums of carnage. When will the owners own up to their responsibility in this? Never. The money is more important to them.
I was agreeing with this video until the third guy talked....CTE isn't an excuse for behavior as much as bipolarism is. But it is a cause. If there is CTE effects on Aarons brain, it won't lesson his guilt...example: I think Jovon Belcher of the KC Chiefs had CTE. did it make light of what he did? no....but it helped explain the rational. It Aaron had CTE, it won't excuse the actions, but it will help explain his thought prices and mental state. The family just wants to see if there was a problem mentally or not....example again: there is a difference between someone with chronic depression who commits suicide and someone with no mental illnesses who does the same thing.
D.j. Hollman "CTE isn't an excuse for behavior" 😂😂 yea I suggest you look up the effects of CTE
This guy cannot see through that aron hernandez had a problem
If CTE or other disorders could set in at a early age Hernandez could have had it from childhood.
we should not to be judging. Is hard for a mother to accept her son committed a criminal act. she has questions , maybe she would never find the answers. I don't think she is in denial.
Steven's hairline is hilarious
Well it is two feet forward
In my honest opinion, victims of CTE are too scared to get professional help. And by that, I mean victims of CTE know that there is something wrong with them, but they cannot tell what is wrong with them, so they end up not thinking straight and end up taking the coward's way out by killing innocent victims on purpose and committing suicide on purpose out of premeditation. And the stupid thing is, CTE examiners can only examine damaged human brains after the person/people who has/have suffered from CTE is/are dead. It has to be the other way around, as in seek professional help immediately and not take the coward's way out. Makes sense, right? There's no doubt in my mind that is what had happened with WWE wrestler Chris Benoit.
If Aaron was black Stephen A will defend him
Daniel Salgado he wouldn’t
How ironic-Stephen A. saying this and it really was CTE...Doc said it was the worst case of CTE she had ever seen. Decision making is a factor, it was probably just getting worse over the years...
Years later we now know he had severe CTE. Just saying, I’m sure that has a factor as that part of the brain controls impulse
They have no idea what CTE is
Doesn’t make you murder. Now stfu.
@@greatestnitemare6626 it affects your decision making, it affects you in alot of ways do the research before you talk
@@haydenmilam8252 It does not make you a murderer. Try again moron.
@@greatestnitemare6626 it can cause you to kill someone again do research
Yessss I agree 110% Bring the Truth!
I blame the hood culture the street mentality he grew up with . And CTE
Who believes he was innocent and this was not a suicide... Why did they report that there was no note found. Now 3 notes have been found. Who believe this or not
ZoodleInfo I don't believe it at all. Because he has a daughter and a fiance/ baby mama. He woulda left a letter or something to explain himself. Something just isn't right about this case at all. It breaks my heart to even know that there's a baby involved. I pray that God forgives him if he really did kill that man intentionally. I also pray for all his family and close friends for a speedy recovery after this tragedy. 😭😭😥💔💔
Great point from molly towards the end
Having CTE and being a murderer are not mutually exclusive. You can be both. Did CTE impact his ability to murder? I don't know, but I can't rule that out 100%.
This killings was not Hernandez taking his life There's a lot more to this
We don't know how much CTE affected him. Not enough research has been done. These guys are making too many assumptions and educated guesses. Why not wait for more evidence to be brought forth.
Max kellerman is a professional troll
Nobody perfect you do negativity things you pay the price real 💯
After further review the ruling on the field stands the receiver's feet were not in bounds
These people need to watch Concussion you can see the ignorance! Children are the most vulnerable! Furthermore CTE isn’t diagnosed until after death!
Ok if they are gonna let Aaron Hernandez off the hook for those deaths because of CTE then the same has to happen with Chris Benoit who was actually much older than Hernandez. But in my opinion Hernandez turned into a street thug some time early in his life and he never let it go.
Atlas orthogonal can help. Try it bc medical docs have no answers. It reversed all my sons symptoms from a severe head/neck trauma. It is easy and safe.
Is they blaming it or telling you what he had ??????
Why did Molly start talking
Aaron Hernandez behavior problem was strictly emotional due to his father's passing. I see all the time before a love one passes some people pray and pray hope that god answers and when their love one still passes they turn to a dark place. In his case it seems there was no one there to pull him out.
He use to murder defenses, then he switched to people
Max, ADVANCED.
Rugby players get CTE just as badly as NFL. But in Europe and Australia we dont have access to guns. Hmm I wonder what the problem is here🤔
His entire frontal lobe was not there. What Aaron did just as well as he played football, was to play off what his reality was like. His brain was atrophying and looked like a67 year old man with dementia. His reality was not like someone’s with a healthy 27 yr old brain.
I have bipolar disorder I've had a few concussions I'm not killing people I'm not carrying guns if I go to a bar I don't need a babysitter. Fact is Aaron Hernandez was just a bad guy and people need to stop dancing around that
Well that's good but look man you should understand that CTE or anything like that is the reason for that. Because their have been other NFL players with the same issues not the mention man and weman who fight in the United states military surfers from mental illness. Now people like you can your acting in certain ways but that doesn't mean that theirs still not a reason. And i don't think people were babysitting Aaron so what did you mean.
Agreed. CTE is real. CTE did not cause this. Dude was gonna spend his life in prison. I'm pretty sure that was motivation enough.
You can't find that shit in college there's highchool junior ball
He was also taking multiple different DRUGS N I AGREE WITH Stephen
NFL has every reason to downplay the effects of CTE.
Was he that good or something they stay talking about this nigga like he was an MVP or a super champion
if its not CTE then let them do the test then
whats to debate???
The gun trafficing charges he was suppose to face he put his former teamate up to lying
The Family Aarón Hernandez Wife Doughter no more
Me either
CTE? Young Jeezy's label? LOL
Max the man not here any more get God in your life all you do is talk rip arron
RIP Odin Lloyd
Max stop talking !!!!!
Sad but also just uninformed. All of you talking down on CTE like it’s just a small disease get on google on read up on some of this shit. Truly scary
Last not make excuses. He is a murderer!
Welll this segment certainly didn’t age well
Aaron Hernandez didn't do anything he is innocent and always has been
What the hell is CTE?
I swear all these people that benefit directly from the NFL $ are really FOUL
Stephen A. Smith Was An All Male HS In Queens NYC, And He Is A Gay, And He Covers It Well....Allegedly.
He was innocent and he was murdered
The guy are wrong
this show would be a lot better if molly would talk less and show more skin.
Football is not safe.
this why I don't watch first
take anymore. there not human disgusting human being talk to Jesus Aaron made a mistake everyone does only true believers in Jesus will feel sorry for Aaron RIP
the future superstar killing ppl internationally is not a mistake #gosomewherewiththat
Aaron Hernandez was innocent
Juan Hernandez Tried to troll for likes and could only get 3. That's f
pretty sad...
Juan Hernandez 😏😏😏😏
GBThreeCount 7 by my count
Why would he be the one who shot Odin Lloyd?
He had 2 other shooters!!
1:13 "homicidal maniac" -- unless hernandez was actually innocent
CTE is NOT A DAMN EXCUSE!
i'm sick of life
Real easy to talk about shit you don't know about
This take has aged poorly
Just a wanna be thug , period .
He was a very good looking guy, but he was a weirdo.
Molly is a big AH fan, constantly taking his side or justifying his behaviour and actions, making excuses and theories on his behalf. The host should be impartial as a starting point, and we would expect her to have a basic level of morality and values. It's a pity that is not the case, she needs to check herself for sure.