What about Jr Seau? All Jr Seau life according to teammates, coaches friends, neighbors, and most importantly Jr Seau family all said that he was an amazing man... loving, caring, funny, non violent guy and did amazing things in his community. Then towards the end of his long career started not being him self. Started to get depressed, started to always be angry... then violent with him self and others. Eventually committed suicide, CTE is very real people, whether we like it or not. #RealTalk
glad you mentioned him because his suicide was shocking. it isn’t only football that contributes to cte. hernandez’s dad was very abusive and who knows how many times he was knocked in the head, slammed against wall, floor or headfirst into things. those things during the developmental stage could have been bigger factors than football. i dont know why his physically abusive upbringing isn’t factored in to this?
Same can be said with Chris Benoit. He was a well loved guy. He had a bad severe case of CTE. When his friend Eddie Guerrero died he lost it . Killed his wife and son, then hung himself.
Tic Spann he’s not down playing it; he’s merely stating facts. Aaron was thuggin a long time, and more importantly, CTE doesn’t create a murderer. Why is everyone showing sympathy for him instead of the two innocent people he killed!
There was a study done by Boston U recently on 111 NFL players (they autopsied their bodies). 110 were found to have CTE. This was an eye opener for me on this topic personally. Just worth sharing, it was a recent study so should be super easy to find for anyone else curious about it.
I listened to Shannon in another clip talking about how he was basically gifted with athletic ability rather than brains, I disagree with him completely he’s an incredibly smart man
Can we blame CTE on his decisions?? not totally but you cant say it didn't play a factor. we can rationalize his behavior without sympathizing with it/him
We are all saying don’t forget what he did. But he isn’t the only person that had terrible CTE and committed suicide this is a problem. The nfl and patriots knew he had some form of CTE and they Damn Sure Know a possible side effect of CTE is depression and suicidal thoughts. If you Know this man was in a little prison box for the rest of his life you don’t think the thought of suicide ever Came across his mind?
Almon Joseph nov.14, 1994, patriots vs vikings, bledsoe went 45-70, not one running play in 2nd half, tied, ot...kevin turner catches game winning td, now google: kevin turner cte... RIP
i got suicide thoughts and depressions completely without CTE. whats the point? he had it before any head injuries, he was agressive way before he played NFL. dont blame the patriots for what he done. everyone knows contact sports are fkin dangerous to your body and the brain/head is one of the most fragile areas. but only in america you can sue others for your own damn stupidity and uneducated brain for millions.
There is so much to learn about CTE effects. It is disturbing to find commentators with such a great forum speak against a player diagnosed with a severe form of CTE and still not remain objective while more research is founded. Too bad that we, collectively, lack the ability to be patient and guiding our audience to remain patient while conclusive studies can breakdown the behavioral effects of CTE. This, like many new discoveries, take decades to complied enough subjects to deduce accurate diagnosis on the living based on collected data.
The judgement by other football players is disrespectful and disgusting. You might be facing the disease, and when you pass, you will be judged as well. There’s no respect in continuing the pain that all of these families are living with. No one taking jabs at Aaron is any better for doing so!
Cher P Have you seen the condition most boxers are in after they retire? And are you suggesting soccer players take the same kinds of hits to the head as Football players and boxers?
Jimmy Early that is exactly what he's saying. CTE= CHRONIC TRAUMATIC ENCEPALOPATHY .. which means chronic trauma causing brain disease. Its settled science that repeated trauma to the head leads to brain injury ( no one in the medical community is arguing that). The arugment is if playing sports at an early age increases the risk of that.
Hmmm. We are not talking about the condition of most boxers. We are talking about CTE and the relationship to blows to the head. CTE would not discriminate against blows to the head from any sport. So, my point is boxers with all their sparring and they get far more blows to the head via a professional boxers "killer punches". So to me, if CTE were caused exclusively by blows to the head then boxers would be DEAD!!! All of them. I mean it is brutal! Even looking at women boxers it looks brutal!. So how do you justify someone like Hernandez with what science classifies as a 60 year old CTE case for someone who was out of football at 25ish. Just saying. Something doesnt quite add up. By comparison, I could see if a young boxer had CTE of a 60 year old. There is something that is becoming a "jump" to conclusion here that is absolutely wrong. People today aren't very well trained in cause and effect analysis. And this Hernandez finding is absolutely a red flag that something is amiss. Anyone who takes hits to the head should experience some sort of CTE if blows to the head is what causes CTE. Perhaps its bad thinking as well. I mean everyone knows that people who get stressed out experience damage to their physical body. So, why could not evil or stressful thinking cause CTE? I assure you they haven't checked for it. They would have no one to sue or ask for money to fund their research. Let me tell you something. In America, ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY. If people are not already greedy, the minute they start making money they quickly become greedy. CTE and its research is very much going to become about the money. Sorry, but that is the way it is.
The fact that a Dr of Nigerian decent is the one who made the push to give this disease a name and diagnostic criteria is fascinating. He was courageous, we need the legal field and everyone around professionally to take their parts and run with it. We need better compensation for the players in this field, occupational health is very important.
They very carefully danced around the topic that the Patriots knew early that AH had behavioural issues and ignored them because he was an amazing football player. Anything to win.
In my opinion, Joy is soo much better than Molly. If this was first take, 30 seconds in, Molly would be screaming at Stephen A to wrap it up and interrupting them. I know the network doesn't allow as much time, but when Cari was there it seemed like they had a bit more leeway
Leave science to the experts. Downplaying CTE on such a huge platform can be so detrimental to people who get all there facts from TV. Shannon is just speaking on his experience
@@7thswordsmenofthemist I get that, but thats his opinion based on what he thinks...not science. It's pretty much impossible to observe all the detrimental effects of CTE because everyone's brain is individual and you can't compare 2 of the same brain with and without CTE. Who knows if he would have murdered someone if he had never played football. I'm not excusing him as there are obviously murderers who don't have CTE. I'm just saying speaking like its fact, when you aren't even remotely an expert can be damaging. That being said I would never make a comment on it. We know more about the bottom of the ocean and space than we do the human brain.
@@WOWWOW-hk1tb next to nothing is still a considerably lot more than a lay-person. A quick analogy for you. I have 2$ in the bank. an expert has 500000$ in the bank. The bank contains 294923764128962984623978423189476292309472097209427052750972309572305723059238162982136982368931269823164931269516$. The expert has next to nothing when compared to the bank. but a lot more compared to me. hopefully you might understand now
well it depends. its anything with contact sport. snowboarding/skating are some factors. also doesn't help if you have other mental problems. there's only so much your brain can take before it breaks.
This is absolutely horrible news. I think that Shannon and Skip are downplaying CTE. It is real and always ends in tragedy. Just because you don't have it doesn't mean other's don't. Watch Concussion.
CTE is not why Aaron Hernandez was out here trying to be some oversized gangsta. OJ's head trauma wasn't why he beat Nicole and almost certainly murdered her and Ronald Goldman. It's important to talk about this...it's vital actually. But correlation is NOT causation. Hernandez murdering Odin Lloyd was not because of CTE.
You can't say correlation is not causation on this because we don't know the full effects of CTE yet. Or how it possibly effects other mental problems someone may have. But the fact that's it's a common factor amongst these different people and situations points towards it playing more than a small role
Imagine knowing that you're doing the wrong thing that you're making a wrong choice and still not being able to stop yourself from doing it that is the impulse part of the brain the frontal lobe that was super traumatized on his brain and that's just one of the things that was wrong with it Now he did some f***** up s*** and he deserved it being imprisoned for that but there's a lot of extenuating circumstances We should not ignore them because of our personal beliefs or built in bias
I have gone through 3 separate brain injuries and can tell you that your ability to control your emotions or even your body is difficult and sometimes I might behave like a over tired toddler. I also know that being female I am lucky enough to more likely just to be more emotional like a roller coaster rather then males who are more likely to become much more aggressive. Having a concussion as a young person is also one of the indicators for murders. Having said all of that it is still the person’s choice to go through the suicidal, murderous or abusive actions that some sufferers do. Yes the head injury’s affects a person’s thinking and decision making but the underlying personality/ experiences of the person are amplified, pushing them into the horrendous actions more easily. It is not to blame but is a HUGE factor. We should all work to reduce concussions/ brain injuries in general but especially in sports.
I knew CTE was coming before they even said something. They had to find a reason on why he committed suicide. What better conclusion than saying he had CTE. Makes it very believable and hard to argue
aaron hernandez is the perfect example of being a product of your environment..... not making excuses for what he chose to do as an adult, but he couldn't be who he really was from day 1 with those horrible parents...
Shannon you my guy but your wrong!!! Theres plenty of athletes and not just football players that suffered from this, and all of these players had just about the same kind of violence and ended up committing suicide too. But he'll never understand until it hits home
*I get what he did was wrong, but it’s still a tragic story would he of been a cold blooded killer if he didn’t have severe CTE? We will never know, but the part of his brain that helps with decision making was severely damaged, we can’t sit here n act like that didn’t play a huge part in what he did and how he acted. He also lost his dad and was doin angel dust and hanging around the wrong crowd.. it’s all of that combined. It’s just tragic man. Dude had so much ahead of him. A life of riches. And he threw it all away.. damn.*
Matthew Alexander Lemma You're right. Plus, they are abandoning their base (conservative white men) that actually pay for tickets, food and drink, cable packages, merchandise, etc. Add on top of it the issues with CTE... the sport is doomed.
Cmon now, combat sports have been showing this damage for 30 years now. Football will change, but it won't go away. Look at the NBA, it just changes to be less physical. They'll try two hand touch with robot avatars before giving up making that jack.
Shannon raises the point I've always wondered about. At what age and level does this start? I know I got my "Bell rung" playing in middle school a few times. To blame this on just Pro level hits seems a bit short sighted. Concussions are cumulative, that's a fact. Hernandez was twenty three when he played his last game yet had severe CTE while players with much longer pro careers had equal or less advanced cases.
His brain was damaged and that had nothing to do with it? Your brain controls every choice you make, of course brain damage can cause you to do things you normally wouldn't.
CTE is a direct result of the brain smashing against the inside of the skull. CTE does not affect the memory as much as it does behavior. I had probably 10-15 concussions before I was in high school with about 5 of those being out cold. I do believe it does affect things such as impulse control and mood swings. Memory not as much till maybe later in life. Impulse control, anger issues, mood swings, depression got them all.
Man Shannon Sharpe has been ON!! He's making real points that people can understand and make sense. He's not playing the blame game just talking about things people understand. He's the best part of this show..
Trevor P Its not the children getting concussions, it's the big kids and adults. Imo, not allowing children under 13 to play football will do nothing to prevent CTE because they're not big, fast and strong enough yet to create big collisions.
Dude was a murderous POS. Don't try to use this as a way to paint him as some kind of victim who deserves our sympathy. That's completely disrespectful to the families of the people he killed.
LiL Spook You're right. We should examine him and take precautions in regards to our young ones. However, we shouldn't glorify Hernandez in any capacity.
LiL Spook I agree. Kids shouldn't have to subject themselves to such danger. Thank goodness things are being changed, so we can try to curb the chances of them developing this illness.
Agreed. The guy was messed up long before the NFL. He's a cold hearted killer simple as that. I hate the Pats but its just sad seeing this considering they gave him every chance to get clean and all he did was lie.
Do I forget things, yes Do I get upset, yes Do I get moody at times, yes My man Shannon would be killing the Mumble rap game, just add some Mad Libs and Auto-Tune and he will be set.
This is the dumbest sports lawsuit ever... He played physical hardcore football In the SEC for years & He did drugs heavy when his dad passed which plays a big role in developing CTE , if they were so "concerned" about his health then why didn't they make him retire back in college? Why'd they wait until now?! Man gtfoh they wont even get a fair trial trying to sue over a deceased murderer.
Shannon threw all logic out the window with this one. “I played more games than him and I’m not crazy!!!”. God damn Shannon my man. There’s this thing called logic. Use it
IF WE LOOK AT JUNIOR SEAU, DAVE DUERSON, AND OTHERS WHO HAVE SUFFERED CTE DID THEY HAVE A HISTORY OF VIOLENT BEHAVIOR? WHEN LAW SUITS INITIALLY BROUGHT AGAINST THE NFL DID THEY GO BACK AND SUE THE COLLEGES OR HIGH SCHOOL? ARE WE COMPLICIT OR HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY, ARE WE OUR BROTHERS KEEPER?
Yes you have to be dead to prove but you can defend on the presumption of CTE and still convince a judge to have leniency and may even be able to plead insanity.
if you're going to play judge/jury then keep the same energy on the people you are defending. are those just innocent angels who got caught up by coincidence? no, sis..
Remember Chris Benoit pro wrestler? Dude was a loved great guy ,but also had a severe bad case of cte during his career and when his best friend Eddie Guerrero died... he lost it . Killed his wife and son, then hung himself.
He had advanced CTE it does not equate to all of his issues and Shannon has done a great job explaining that to the fans! Great athlete horrible making life choices.
Ive blacked out from being hit many times from being hit in hs and college.....the sharp ringing in your ears sucks too. Doesnt make you a murderer......that dude was messed up from the start.
Clarks Hat it's like a disease that makes you a nightmare matchup for opposing OLBs and Safeties but also your current or former teammates as well...Big downside!!
They diagnosed Aaron with CTE he took his own life I'm not making excuses for him taking those people's lives was horrendous but if you're saying CTE affect Behavior obviously he falls into that category
It's really hard listening to wo men who make a MOUNTAIN of money talking about the NFL try and shill for them in the face of what we do know about CTE and former players-- ESPECIALLY Skip who never risked playing a down in his life.
CTE was one of the factors why he behaved inappropriately. I just think after his father passed away he wasn’t the same because he had no one to have him on check. His choice to hang around the wrong crowd was the biggest factor of them all.
It was hard to hear my man Shannon Sharp say "I may have CTE" 😥
osvaldo madrid gotdam for real. almost shed a tear. watching Chris Carter talk about Hernandez and CTE was hard too...
C. Richardson yeah CC made a great speech on First Things First today.
If you see this comment and haven't watched it go watch it.
Pretty touching.
Go listen to Chris Carters speech. He had tears in his eyes, and put a tear in Nick Wrights eye. It was very deep and emotional
I feel like TEs aren't in that much danger. It's mostly centers, linebackers, DLs. People usually go low on TEs like Gronk.
Stephen B. Smith Hernandez was a TE
27 and severe CTE damn. He was out of the league for years too.
Nightmare Nightmare not really just high school and college combined. He probably had cte then as well
ReturnoftheBrotha they do. He just couldnt control the anger it gave him.
Oh please the study was done by Boston University I feel like there might be some bias there.
I dont believe the CTE bit, MDMA makes your brain look worse who knows what kind of drugs Hernande was taking
ReturnoftheBrotha you can't tell if someone has it until they're deceased. So far everyone they've tested for has had it 100%
Shannon is the best combo of real and intelligent as I ever witnessed
yeah hearing shannon's response vs hearing stephen A earlier was like night and day
Factsssssss
U FORGOT BRONSEXUAL
Hahaha. You must not get out much.
@@kaine969 shut the f up
What about Jr Seau? All Jr Seau life according to teammates, coaches friends, neighbors, and most importantly Jr Seau family all said that he was an amazing man... loving, caring, funny, non violent guy and did amazing things in his community. Then towards the end of his long career started not being him self. Started to get depressed, started to always be angry... then violent with him self and others. Eventually committed suicide, CTE is very real people, whether we like it or not. #RealTalk
KERUPT KILLER he was also in debt with casinos as was reported so that might have made his depression worse 😞
glad you mentioned him because his suicide was shocking. it isn’t only football that contributes to cte. hernandez’s dad was very abusive and who knows how many times he was knocked in the head, slammed against wall, floor or headfirst into things. those things during the developmental stage could have been bigger factors than football. i dont know why his physically abusive upbringing isn’t factored in to this?
Same can be said with Chris Benoit. He was a well loved guy. He had a bad severe case of CTE. When his friend Eddie Guerrero died he lost it . Killed his wife and son, then hung himself.
HE SHOT HIMSELF IN THE CHEST SO HIS BRAIN COULD BE STUDIED
Broadstreet Flyers95 Chris Benoit Murdered his Family
CTE exist stop down playing it
Tic Spann he’s not down playing it; he’s merely stating facts. Aaron was thuggin a long time, and more importantly, CTE doesn’t create a murderer. Why is everyone showing sympathy for him instead of the two innocent people he killed!
Jason R. Thuggish behavior or sociopath (a mental illness) tendencies confounded by CTE?
Tic Spann EXACTLY! How many people have to die before people realize that!?
CTE CAN make a murderer, man.
Shannon will always tell the truth. How’s he down playing it he says the nfl needs to stop denying and he doesn’t know if he is the baseline.
AB definitely has CTE
This
Nope he has EGS "El Ghetto Syndrome "
Guy was knocked out by a NFL linebacker, how worse can it get there. most likely got CTE
George Forbes half the league is from the ghetto none of them act like AB, idiot.
Vontaze Burfict hit on AB probably started it all
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There was a study done by Boston U recently on 111 NFL players (they autopsied their bodies). 110 were found to have CTE. This was an eye opener for me on this topic personally. Just worth sharing, it was a recent study so should be super easy to find for anyone else curious about it.
Shannon is why I'm here.
*_SKIIIEEEEEUP!!!_* 😂😂😂
East Sultan Stawwwwp ittttt skeeeeeeeupppp
East Sultan dude can barely speak English
Well, JOY is why im here, Take this L East Sultan
Shannon the logical one of the two
shannon is 49 but looks 39
Lets hope he stays that way he is a great ambassador for football
50 but looks 39
I'm 21 and he looks younger then me
Makeup
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Aaron had a lot of problems. CTE was just one of many.
You should educate his level of CTE. Imagine if your brain is only working at 50%, how many problems you would have
@@mike536 give me a break
mike skinner u don’t understand brain damage dude
Ditto for AB
CTE caused most of his problems
I listened to Shannon in another clip talking about how he was basically gifted with athletic ability rather than brains, I disagree with him completely he’s an incredibly smart man
Is an incredibly intelligent man I agree!!!
CTE is no joke
Can we blame CTE on his decisions?? not totally
but you cant say it didn't play a factor. we can rationalize his behavior without sympathizing with it/him
Ocbac Shabass yeah no one is blaming CTE for his crimes.
No one blames CTE but his brain is like the size of a joystick
Exactly
It's your decision to play football CTE is a danger when you play any contact sport NFL is in no way liable
truth
Shay said it best. The human body was not designed to play football
True, watching football is just like watching the MMA.
We are all saying don’t forget what he did. But he isn’t the only person that had terrible CTE and committed suicide this is a problem. The nfl and patriots knew he had some form of CTE and they Damn Sure Know a possible side effect of CTE is depression and suicidal thoughts. If you Know this man was in a little prison box for the rest of his life you don’t think the thought of suicide ever Came across his mind?
Juan carlos Wow I didn't know that you learn something new everyday
Almon Joseph nov.14, 1994, patriots vs vikings, bledsoe went 45-70, not one running play in 2nd half, tied, ot...kevin turner catches game winning td, now google: kevin turner cte... RIP
The only person that knows you have CTE is the pathologist
i got suicide thoughts and depressions completely without CTE. whats the point?
he had it before any head injuries, he was agressive way before he played NFL.
dont blame the patriots for what he done. everyone knows contact sports are fkin dangerous to your body and the brain/head is one of the most fragile areas.
but only in america you can sue others for your own damn stupidity and uneducated brain for millions.
Almon Joseph facts
Dont speak on what u don't know. The man was losing his mind at a rate quicker than what was believed to be normal.
Yes. Which is why the cases of CTE that we know about end in tragedy.
That's what I say
There is so much to learn about CTE effects. It is disturbing to find commentators with such a great forum speak against a player diagnosed with a severe form of CTE and still not remain objective while more research is founded. Too bad that we, collectively, lack the ability to be patient and guiding our audience to remain patient while conclusive studies can breakdown the behavioral effects of CTE. This, like many new discoveries, take decades to complied enough subjects to deduce accurate diagnosis on the living based on collected data.
CTE is a weapon. Do not judge a person who’s shoes you have never walked in. This disease doesn’t discriminate, nor should you!!
The judgement by other football players is disrespectful and disgusting. You might be facing the disease, and when you pass, you will be judged as well. There’s no respect in continuing the pain that all of these families are living with. No one taking jabs at Aaron is any better for doing so!
Repeated blows to the head cause CTE...its not totally why he did it but it sure didn't help.
If that were the case all of the boxers and soccer players would be dead.
Cher P Have you seen the condition most boxers are in after they retire? And are you suggesting soccer players take the same kinds of hits to the head as Football players and boxers?
Cher P What body part functions the same after prolonged, repeated, injury?
Jimmy Early that is exactly what he's saying. CTE= CHRONIC TRAUMATIC ENCEPALOPATHY .. which means chronic trauma causing brain disease. Its settled science that repeated trauma to the head leads to brain injury ( no one in the medical community is arguing that). The arugment is if playing sports at an early age increases the risk of that.
Hmmm. We are not talking about the condition of most boxers. We are talking about CTE and the relationship to blows to the head. CTE would not discriminate against blows to the head from any sport. So, my point is boxers with all their sparring and they get far more blows to the head via a professional boxers "killer punches". So to me, if CTE were caused exclusively by blows to the head then boxers would be DEAD!!! All of them. I mean it is brutal! Even looking at women boxers it looks brutal!. So how do you justify someone like Hernandez with what science classifies as a 60 year old CTE case for someone who was out of football at 25ish. Just saying. Something doesnt quite add up. By comparison, I could see if a young boxer had CTE of a 60 year old. There is something that is becoming a "jump" to conclusion here that is absolutely wrong. People today aren't very well trained in cause and effect analysis. And this Hernandez finding is absolutely a red flag that something is amiss. Anyone who takes hits to the head should experience some sort of CTE if blows to the head is what causes CTE. Perhaps its bad thinking as well. I mean everyone knows that people who get stressed out experience damage to their physical body. So, why could not evil or stressful thinking cause CTE? I assure you they haven't checked for it. They would have no one to sue or ask for money to fund their research. Let me tell you something. In America, ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY. If people are not already greedy, the minute they start making money they quickly become greedy. CTE and its research is very much going to become about the money. Sorry, but that is the way it is.
The fact that a Dr of Nigerian decent is the one who made the push to give this disease a name and diagnostic criteria is fascinating. He was courageous, we need the legal field and everyone around professionally to take their parts and run with it. We need better compensation for the players in this field, occupational health is very important.
They very carefully danced around the topic that the Patriots knew early that AH had behavioural issues and ignored them because he was an amazing football player. Anything to win.
EXACTLY!!!! The patriots are a racist white led team that exploits us minorities to win. Its outright despicable
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@@joe-tatothepotatobiden47 dude? wtf are you on?
@@schopenhauer7278 Im just speaking the truth. You aint woke enough to understand smh.
In my opinion, Joy is soo much better than Molly. If this was first take, 30 seconds in, Molly would be screaming at Stephen A to wrap it up and interrupting them. I know the network doesn't allow as much time, but when Cari was there it seemed like they had a bit more leeway
Cari was annoying asf lol just my opinion.
Truth
Very disapponted with Shannon's take on this one. I thought he would understand better than anyone else a situation like that
Leave science to the experts. Downplaying CTE on such a huge platform can be so detrimental to people who get all there facts from TV. Shannon is just speaking on his experience
Idt he downplaying CTE jus not letting it be the reason or excuse for him being a murderer which is fair
@@7thswordsmenofthemist I get that, but thats his opinion based on what he thinks...not science. It's pretty much impossible to observe all the detrimental effects of CTE because everyone's brain is individual and you can't compare 2 of the same brain with and without CTE. Who knows if he would have murdered someone if he had never played football. I'm not excusing him as there are obviously murderers who don't have CTE. I'm just saying speaking like its fact, when you aren't even remotely an expert can be damaging. That being said I would never make a comment on it. We know more about the bottom of the ocean and space than we do the human brain.
@@m2929"trust the experts" "the experts know next to nothing about the human brain"
@@WOWWOW-hk1tb next to nothing is still a considerably lot more than a lay-person. A quick analogy for you. I have 2$ in the bank. an expert has 500000$ in the bank. The bank contains 294923764128962984623978423189476292309472097209427052750972309572305723059238162982136982368931269823164931269516$. The expert has next to nothing when compared to the bank. but a lot more compared to me. hopefully you might understand now
Shannon has taken over Stephen a smith in my mind he speaks so well
SHANNON NAILED IT AS USUAL
Imagine how many other brains have this and we don't know..
well it depends. its anything with contact sport. snowboarding/skating are some factors.
also doesn't help if you have other mental problems. there's only so much your brain can take before it breaks.
This is absolutely horrible news. I think that Shannon and Skip are downplaying CTE. It is real and always ends in tragedy. Just because you don't have it doesn't mean other's don't. Watch Concussion.
Great movie
In 2015 Fox made 1.44 billion on ad revenue from their NFL broadcasts. Skip is paid by the NFL.
Bryan Bruner yep
i had to watch cris carter interview on this like 6 times legendary
I'm not copping him out with this, but there has to be a connection.
Of course they are connected and drugs trigger more
Aaron Hernandez's lawyer is the same lawyer who got Casey Anthony acquitted.
i agree with everything shannon said great arguments and great delivery, the CTE that he had does not excuse what he did.....
jugadug Doesn't excuse, but severe brain-damage may explain his actions.
CTE is not why Aaron Hernandez was out here trying to be some oversized gangsta. OJ's head trauma wasn't why he beat Nicole and almost certainly murdered her and Ronald Goldman. It's important to talk about this...it's vital actually. But correlation is NOT causation. Hernandez murdering Odin Lloyd was not because of CTE.
Manu Ginobilis Bald Spot Certainly murdered? Glove didn't fit
You can't say correlation is not causation on this because we don't know the full effects of CTE yet. Or how it possibly effects other mental problems someone may have. But the fact that's it's a common factor amongst these different people and situations points towards it playing more than a small role
Breaking news Opinion is not fact!!!
Obviously CTE would have been a contributing factor in his decision making, but so would have alcohol, drugs & his own personal choices.
Imagine knowing that you're doing the wrong thing that you're making a wrong choice and still not being able to stop yourself from doing it that is the impulse part of the brain the frontal lobe that was super traumatized on his brain and that's just one of the things that was wrong with it Now he did some f***** up s*** and he deserved it being imprisoned for that but there's a lot of extenuating circumstances We should not ignore them because of our personal beliefs or built in bias
After watching the Netflix series I’m 50/50 on what happened for everything
How are you 50/50 it was obvious he killed those people
After watching that I know have SUV
3 years later with all the new stuff that has come out about CTE, I’m surprised there aren’t more like him
Symptoms of CTE = agression and suicide etc. But if you get agressive and commit suicide it's not CTE? Hmmm
I have gone through 3 separate brain injuries and can tell you that your ability to control your emotions or even your body is difficult and sometimes I might behave like a over tired toddler.
I also know that being female I am lucky enough to more likely just to be more emotional like a roller coaster rather then males who are more likely to become much more aggressive. Having a concussion as a young person is also one of the indicators for murders.
Having said all of that it is still the person’s choice to go through the suicidal, murderous or abusive actions that some sufferers do.
Yes the head injury’s affects a person’s thinking and decision making but the underlying personality/ experiences of the person are amplified, pushing them into the horrendous actions more easily.
It is not to blame but is a HUGE factor.
We should all work to reduce concussions/ brain injuries in general but especially in sports.
It’s not just games it’s also practice 👏🏾
I know, it's so obvious but according to that guy, it was only the 40 NFL games that came into play 🙄
You can't say CTE didn't have a huge effect on his mind. He probably started getting concussions in Pop Warner.
Its more data.
You need it. Regardless of the background of the person. Don't dismiss it
I knew CTE was coming before they even said something. They had to find a reason on why he committed suicide. What better conclusion than saying he had CTE. Makes it very believable and hard to argue
Maybe it contributed to the suicide, but may not be the whole story.
Cte has gotta be the worst. Notice that out of all the main sports football has the most players who engaged in criminal activity.
Odell's CTE getting up there it's not his fault he be snappin
LOL! Aww man.. LOL!
aaron hernandez is the perfect example of being a product of your environment..... not making excuses for what he chose to do as an adult, but he couldn't be who he really was from day 1 with those horrible parents...
Ths was very hard to watch … really disappointed in theses guys but I’m not surprised
Shannon you my guy but your wrong!!! Theres plenty of athletes and not just football players that suffered from this, and all of these players had just about the same kind of violence and ended up committing suicide too. But he'll never understand until it hits home
I'm glad I never played football.
It was his upbringing as well, terrible mother and father, bad influences all around him
Love Shannon he clearly isn't suffering from CTE...so Sharpe!
If he was he would be screaming "SKIEEEEP" 24/7
CTE doesn't equally murderer
Chris Beniot.
Phenom504 He was also taking steroids.
Phenom504
He suffered from Roid rage...
ATLsF1N3ST91 no it was proven thru autopsy that benoit also had cte. He had the brain of a 80 year old in his 30s.
Yeahbut he had a host of other problems
*I get what he did was wrong, but it’s still a tragic story would he of been a cold blooded killer if he didn’t have severe CTE? We will never know, but the part of his brain that helps with decision making was severely damaged, we can’t sit here n act like that didn’t play a huge part in what he did and how he acted. He also lost his dad and was doin angel dust and hanging around the wrong crowd.. it’s all of that combined. It’s just tragic man. Dude had so much ahead of him. A life of riches. And he threw it all away.. damn.*
CTE is scary
Hernandez was as good or even better than Gronk. Could have been an all time great TE
6:29 I see what you did there, Skip. “Sharpe”
Wow Shannon is 49!! He looks amazing.
They've said the same exact thing about O.J. Simpson. I swear, if football is still around in 50-years, I'll be surprised.
LITTLE The number of parents not allowing their children to play football is staggering, and they say this will only perpetuate with time.
Matthew Alexander Lemma You're right. Plus, they are abandoning their base (conservative white men) that actually pay for tickets, food and drink, cable packages, merchandise, etc. Add on top of it the issues with CTE... the sport is doomed.
I think it will still be around but there will be more rules on hits probably
OJ Simpson Gosh, I never even considered that, and you're 100% right!
Cmon now, combat sports have been showing this damage for 30 years now. Football will change, but it won't go away. Look at the NBA, it just changes to be less physical. They'll try two hand touch with robot avatars before giving up making that jack.
Shannon raises the point I've always wondered about. At what age and level does this start? I know I got my "Bell rung" playing in middle school a few times. To blame this on just Pro level hits seems a bit short sighted. Concussions are cumulative, that's a fact. Hernandez was twenty three when he played his last game yet had severe CTE while players with much longer pro careers had equal or less advanced cases.
Let's not pretend that's why he did what he did
Alex Kroll no one is.
His brain was damaged and that had nothing to do with it? Your brain controls every choice you make, of course brain damage can cause you to do things you normally wouldn't.
SNAPTHEBEAST but he was already like this in college. Cte had nothing to do with it. At all.
Alex Kroll Does anyone know why he killed oden loyd??
SNAPTHEBEAST dude. He already had gang ties as a teen
CTE is a direct result of the brain smashing against the inside of the skull. CTE does not affect the memory as much as it does behavior. I had probably 10-15 concussions before I was in high school with about 5 of those being out cold. I do believe it does affect things such as impulse control and mood swings. Memory not as much till maybe later in life. Impulse control, anger issues, mood swings, depression got them all.
YALL SHOULD WATCH “CONCUSSION”
CTE absolutely caused that man to hurt others and ultimately himself
Nobody else is murdering others
@@matthewwilliams4168yes they are. There are killers in the NFL since the beginning of the NFL.
His family is reaching Hernandez was a broken man emotionally .
mike Ru your brain affects your emotions fam
Isaiah Ray still doesnt give him a pass
His family (no BABY MOMMA) IS looking for the payday Hernandez gave up by his crime!!!!
Man Shannon Sharpe has been ON!! He's making real points that people can understand and make sense. He's not playing the blame game just talking about things people understand. He's the best part of this show..
Football is the greatest game ever. But I wouldn't let my kids play
Trevor P I agree
Trevor P Its not the children getting concussions, it's the big kids and adults. Imo, not allowing children under 13 to play football will do nothing to prevent CTE because they're not big, fast and strong enough yet to create big collisions.
there is a reason you never saw KINGS playing football
Grown men in rights fighting for a ball....hahahaha
This was a tragedy. Aaron Hernandez was a dual receiver and murderer threat.
RIP Aaron. Great football player. But terrible decision maker
He was a terrible person
TheGreatWhiteMexican yes he was but he's dead now
snunja I'm with you 100%
I feel the same way bro. Such a shame he threw that talent away
Daniel Ogbuigwe That comment sums it up!! Good one buddy!!!
Danny Amandola on the patriots is on at least his 5th concussion right now. And he is a receiver!
Dude was a murderous POS. Don't try to use this as a way to paint him as some kind of victim who deserves our sympathy. That's completely disrespectful to the families of the people he killed.
LiL Spook You're right. We should examine him and take precautions in regards to our young ones. However, we shouldn't glorify Hernandez in any capacity.
LiL Spook I agree. Kids shouldn't have to subject themselves to such danger. Thank goodness things are being changed, so we can try to curb the chances of them developing this illness.
Agreed. The guy was messed up long before the NFL. He's a cold hearted killer simple as that. I hate the Pats but its just sad seeing this considering they gave him every chance to get clean and all he did was lie.
Charles_Kula He had a lot of potential too. He squandered his future away just to be a lowlife gangster.
as Shannon said assumption of risk my father told me the risk of football and i stilled played
Gotta love those UA-cam recommendations 😂
Do I forget things, yes
Do I get upset, yes
Do I get moody at times, yes
My man Shannon would be killing the Mumble rap game, just add some Mad Libs and Auto-Tune and he will be set.
Shannon just earns my respect more and more
This is the dumbest sports lawsuit ever... He played physical hardcore football In the SEC for years & He did drugs heavy when his dad passed which plays a big role in developing CTE , if they were so "concerned" about his health then why didn't they make him retire back in college? Why'd they wait until now?! Man gtfoh they wont even get a fair trial trying to sue over a deceased murderer.
Do you know Hernandez personally or do you know him through the media? People like to talk about rumors vs what they actually know
#EastAtlantaZ6 I knew it! CTE was his brain being FRIED from all that Angel Dust!
Rest in peace
Shannon threw all logic out the window with this one. “I played more games than him and I’m not crazy!!!”. God damn Shannon my man. There’s this thing called logic. Use it
Well Shannon and Aaron are completely different so
9:05-9:17.; Agreed...
Perfect examples by Shannon Sharpe, in my opinion.
IF WE LOOK AT JUNIOR SEAU, DAVE DUERSON, AND OTHERS WHO HAVE SUFFERED CTE DID THEY HAVE A HISTORY OF VIOLENT BEHAVIOR? WHEN LAW SUITS INITIALLY BROUGHT AGAINST THE NFL DID THEY GO BACK AND SUE THE COLLEGES OR HIGH SCHOOL? ARE WE COMPLICIT OR HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY, ARE WE OUR BROTHERS KEEPER?
Did we not see the movie concussion it is possible that could have played a major part in his behavior
I think Shannon in down playing CTE. How will we ever know whether CTE was the reason for his aggression and bad behavior?
Because he was exhibiting criminal and violent behavior before CTE
You can’t deny cte had a factor in his judgement and behavior in comitting those crimes
Of course it did, he had a giant hole in the middle of his brain.
Somebody call Charles Manson and let him know we got a new defense
Yes you have to be dead to prove but you can defend on the presumption of CTE and still convince a judge to have leniency and may even be able to plead insanity.
if you're going to play judge/jury then keep the same energy on the people you are defending. are those just innocent angels who got caught up by coincidence? no, sis..
He still took another man's life let's not make excuses here sir
Remember Chris Benoit pro wrestler? Dude was a loved great guy ,but also had a severe bad case of cte during his career and when his best friend Eddie Guerrero died... he lost it . Killed his wife and son, then hung himself.
@@jimward1417 steroid abuse played a part in that as well.
@@seanmcgrath9432 he never used steroids that was his close friend Eddie Guerrero
Well said Shannon!
Just know... Nba players getting paid waaaayy more than NFL players. 🤔
AARON HERNANDEZ FX drama series has intrigued my interest. I truly belive in CTE ! so sad it cant be discovered until after someone dies.
Me to
Joy makes me lose focus, every time the camera goes to wide shot..
Joy is so scrumptious!!! Goodness
I don’t understand Shannon’s perspective here.. it’s not like Hernanedez ever blamed Cte for his behaviour..
Joy is very beautiful, I like that Style on her
I've played football since age 11, through college, then I'm in my 20th year as a sports stuntman. I haven't thought of taking anyone's life.
I have.
He had advanced CTE it does not equate to all of his issues and Shannon has done a great job explaining that to the fans! Great athlete horrible making life choices.
The man was 23..
@@nicolaslatorre81027 with the worst case of cte ever seen at someone his age
It's hard 2 remmbr him gettng hit so much, just a lak of maturity . . .
I knew it befor autupsy if I'm lying I'm dying
CTE @ 27 is scary af
Also ppl need to realize there has been cte links to gang members which Aaron Hernandez was
He was never in a gang.
Ive blacked out from being hit many times from being hit in hs and college.....the sharp ringing in your ears sucks too. Doesnt make you a murderer......that dude was messed up from the start.
Crazy Tight End's Disease??
NOwhereMAN!! I went from almost crying watching this vid to laughing ur comment. lol smh
NOwhereMAN!! What?
Clarks Hat it's like a disease that makes you a nightmare matchup for opposing OLBs and Safeties but also your current or former teammates as well...Big downside!!
They diagnosed Aaron with CTE he took his own life I'm not making excuses for him taking those people's lives was horrendous but if you're saying CTE affect Behavior obviously he falls into that category
It's really hard listening to wo men who make a MOUNTAIN of money talking about the NFL try and shill for them in the face of what we do know about CTE and former players-- ESPECIALLY Skip who never risked playing a down in his life.
I appreciate Shannon Sharpe for his honesty and his facts.
CTE was one of the factors why he behaved inappropriately. I just think after his father passed away he wasn’t the same because he had no one to have him on check. His choice to hang around the wrong crowd was the biggest factor of them all.
i was with him until he started playing judge/jury...... your judgement on other people only reflects who YOU are sis