What Does the Bible Say About Recreational Marijuana Use? | Virgil Walker
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- Опубліковано 21 лют 2024
- As marijuana use becomes more prevalent among younger generations, Christians find themselves grappling with a dilemma: seeking biblical guidance on a topic that is not explicitly addressed in the Bible. While there are no direct scriptural references to marijuana, including its various names like weed, pot, herb, ganja, bud, Mary Jane, reefer, skunk, blaze, spliff, kush, or the chronic, we must explore what insights the Bible offers regarding recreational marijuana use.
Does the Bible offer any answers on the topic of recreational marijuana use?
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It says to only worship God and to give Him your anxieties. I was addicted to this life destroying substance for 20 years and tried many times to quit... it was only after being saved that i realized using it was planning a wedge between myself and God and this is idolatry. I prayed about it and asked for His help in ending this addiction.... I've since been sober for 2.5 years, which is the longest period of sobriety since age of 13. My entire life has changed.
I pray that anyone else struggling with this finds the peace that God has granted me with sobriety.
I was a slave to this deceiver for 35 years.
lmfao this guy said "life destroying substance" and is talking about weed 😂😂😂
@@bfat387 & they call us insane.
God gave us all herbs.
Thank you Jesus.
@@bfat387 I find it rather funny that people with no self control want to blame the things around them. I mean even a snicker bar can be a "life destroying substance" . You'll know the ones I'm talmbout, because they always have a diet coke in one hand.
As someone who has been addicted to weed for over 10 years, all can say is: stay far away from it.
this ^^^^
Why don't you just stop? It is non-addictive and non-habit forming. You aren't addicted. You are vain. Watch videos of alcoholics dying. That is addiction. Cannabis is an anti-inflammatory that has not only helped combat alcohol and heroin/opioid addictions it has also been shown to protect the liver, brain, and other organs from the alcohol, drugs, and even the garbage fast food that kills more people in a minute than cannabis has in human history. Cannabis has saved more people from the grips of addiction than you could count in a lifetime. But here you are, acting the fool so strangers will give you a two second hit of dopamine with a "like". Who is really addicted to what in this situation?
pray to be released from it's hold on your life, God will give you His strength to overcome this addiction. Then put all your anxieties on God. Do not turn back, like leaving the destruction Sodom.
Your life will be blessed with patience and peace.
@@MsQ275 That's exactly what i did, God indeed gave me strength and i quit smoking weed for more than a year now.
What ever makes you weak don't do it
As said
14 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
I was a slave to it for 25 years. Battled with it for 10 years as a born again Christian. Finally delivered for good 3 years ago. Praise God for this deliverance. I tried to rationalize it to be good in every way possible. It wasn’t.
Thanks for your testimony. My eyes are being opened as the prevalence of recreational marijuana use within evangelicalism.
@@VirgilWlkr Before you go believing what a person says online, go to the Bible. Look at Genesis 1:29. Look at Paul's teachings on conflating cultural issues with biblical sin. Cannabis is a seeded plant which are specifically provisioned by God in the Bible. Alcohol is a chemical warned about in the Bible. Watch an alcoholic die or try to get clean. In fact, cannabis is a powerful anti-inflammatory that is a neuroprotectant and can help an alcoholic's liver heal not to mention the mountain of benefits it has for opioid and heroine addiction. Taking that away because you don't understand the Bible or simply want to virtue signal is shameful.
Hey brother I read ur message and in tears cuz i am dealing with the same please pray for me.
Amen and Praise God, He is so so so so so so Good and Great. If anyone who is struggling with this addiction, please pray to be released, God will deliver you.
What would Jesus do? Do you really think Jesus would sit around smoking pot with you? I'm an ex pothead so I know what I'm talking about. I assure you Jesus would not get high, period! We should emulate Jesus as much as we can!
So when he made wine you think he was concerned with a stomach ache. Jesus drank wine to the point they called him a wine bibber. You sound like a Pharisee.
Go head & get the scribes to write it all down. I think Jesus could roll a tight one.
Be Sober minded. Period...
Coffee makes us unsober. What do you think about coffee?
its ridiculous that anytime someone attempts to justify a sin, they compare it to something similar. Really? Test your sins against the Bible only!!!
@@alexlarry8332 anything that alters, makes you incoherent stay away from. You know YOU better than anybody be honest to yourself. We can't lie to God
@@Unapologetically_Masculine OK I will. When they were drunk at a wedding, Jesus enabled the PARTY to continue. He made wine. Can you tell me why he made wine? I can. I doubt you even know Him.
@@irishamerican4558 John 2:11 What Jesus did here in Cana of Galilee was the first of the signs through which he revealed his glory; and his disciples believed in him.
He didn't do it for the people or because Mary asked he did it to show his glory and his deity for his disciples to believe in him.. when it comes to the rest of the people that were there "let the dead bury the dead" free will.
Don't smoke pot.
Smok it, it is your God given right.
There was a guy in my GED class long ago that said " God put Marijuana in and caused it grow so its okay for smoke it." The replied "God made gasoline is it okay to drink it?"
Only a fool would willingly drink gasoline.
If you are not aware of the creative ability a puff or two of cannabis can create, how can you really have an informed opinion?
I assume you are well aware of the joy a glass of wine or two can bring.
Jesus also said, "It is not what we put into our mouths that creates the Sin, but what comes out."
@@normalisoverratedthat’s what the serpent said to Eve... as someone saved out of drug use, I would warn you that shamanism is defined as the use of drugs to contact the spirit realm. Witchcraft in the Bible is pharmakia in Greek and refers to the cutting of roots and herbs for the sake interacting with spirits. Just because moderate use makes one creative doesn’t make it Holy or sanctified. Btw, the #1 rule of witchcraft is if it works do it, and if it doesn’t discard and find something that does. So gauging this from a “it’s effective in making me creative” is the wrong approach. The Bible does expressly forbid the use of roots and herbs to interact with the spirit realm and smoking pot is nowhere authorized in all of Scripture. Jewish tradition holds that drug use was taught to mankind by demons. Now you’ve been warned so when you stand before King of kings and LORD of Lords you will be without excuse. Question is will you humble yourself and repent? Or continue in your hardness of heart?
As a multiple cancer survivor, I thank God for it.
God didn't make gasoline. Unless of course, you mean that God made crude oil and human beings; since man makes gasoline then by default God makes gas, then I could see your point.
Assuming God wanted humans to extract Earth's resources and develop unnatural products for selfish greed and enslavement instead of using the free energy sources already provided. I don't know, the prince and power of the air bolsters the hand of corporation.
@@normalisoverrated Pot’s not comparable to alcohol. There are tests that determine how much alcohol content is in your bloodstream. We can’t effectively yet do that with weed, so it’s impossible to handle these incidents the same way. Which makes this entire ordeal much more difficult to navigate.
Marijuana was a big part of my life, then I gave my life to Christ and I stopped.
You stopped because some man told you it was wrong.
God did not tell you that.
@@irishamerican4558did you not listen to this video? Anything that comes between you and God is a destructive sin. It's called idolatry. Please, read and study your Bible 🙏✝️ and do not comment with ignorance on spiritual subjects. You are creating stumbling blocks for believers and Paul, in Romans, warns against this sin too.
@@MsQ275 Get out of here with your long grocery list of sins. You remind me of the Phrases. I'll bet you also say drinking wine is a sin.
1 Corinthians 6 : 12 Amplified Bible
12 Everything is permissible for me, but not all things are beneficial. Everything is permissible for me, but I will not be enslaved by anything [and brought under its power, allowing it to control me].
Many people are told that "legalizing marijuana" will decrease prison populations because, as the rhetoric goes, there are a lot of people in prison for marijuana possession. I am a retired Corrections Captain, and I know that people are not serving lengthy prison sentences solely for marijuana possession. Many times some sort of illegal drug possession is one crime among others that gets a person convicted. But a small amount of marijuana possession is not worth the effort for many law enforcement officers to prosecute. However, when they arrest someone for being intoxicated and driving a vehicle and injuring others and carrying illegal firearms, and that person is in possession of marijuana, then the police will include that charge. People that advocate for the legalization of marijuana as a money saving idea are deliberately twisting statistical information, which is to say they are lying. Legalizing marijuana as a cost saving measure for states and municipalities is a farce.
Well said 👍🏻👍🏻
Wrong on all accounts. I do not agree. I oppose your lengthy argument.
@@louierivera7512 Not well said.
It's funny, as I smoked pot in HS... but I joined the Navy when I was 17 and made it a career, so I quit using it. Friends of mine from HS did not quit using it and while I retired from my second career and quit working at 50... they are all still working... and using it.
God gave it to us.
U R the one bamboozled.
All along it is OK.
Man owns nothing.
Thank you, Virgil, for this necessary and informative discussion. I shared this to multiple ppl!
Thank you Pastor Walker!
Thanks for always staying Faithful to scripture. May God be glorified ❤
1st Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
Having posted this verse, I will say this. Medical use of marijuana is one thing but using it to get intoxicated is completely different. My brothers and sisters in the Lord, if the Holy Spirit convicts you and tells you not to, you shouldn't. If medically, you can still use it in faith and not prick your conscious, than there should be no violation.
Romans 14:23 Anything that is not done in faith is sin.
Blessings in Jesus Name!
Come quickly Lord Jesus!
AMEN!
Why do you think Jesus turned water into wine?
@@irishamerican4558 that is an excellent question. This is the first recorded miracle that Jesus does and it's meant to symbolize that God was doing a new thing. Which we call the new covenant. This new covenant is marked by Jesus shedding His blood for the forgiveness of sins. He is demonstrating His power to fulfill that covenant promise.
AMEN!!!
@@michaelfishbeck384 I dis agree. You claim it was to symbolize. Any one that reads can tell it was to continue the party. No preacher wants to admit Jesus understands intoxication.
@@irishamerican4558 we will have to agree to disagree.
Blessings in Jesus Name
Brother I appreciate this so much as I have numerous people have come and asked me about this and its difficult in a way because many veterans I know from my military years and time with Wounded Warriors as well as The Warrior Resilience Center use this for medicinal purposes. My conviction is that there is a very fine line between being in extreme pain daily and using the excuse to be high all day. For those that are believers I can't stress enough for them to pray on it. Ive also met with some that are heavily medicated regardless because of injuries. This is going to be a much bigger issue we need to navigate scripturally as the tens of thousands of veterans retiring after 10 years of middle eastern wars feel the toll taken on families and friends. The really hard questions need to be asked of our brothers and sisters in arms but especially in CHRIST! If doctor prescribed , are you driving? Thankyou for the militant stance on God's Word as it's the only thing that won't pass away from this world. God Bless you , G3 and your battle Buddy, Harrison. Love you guys!
I was wondering while watching this if Virgil was going to address the condemnation of pharmakeia in Scripture. It's popular to interpret that word as applying to drug use.
Agree. “pharmakeía (from pharmakeuō, "administer drugs") - properly, drug-related sorcery, like the practice of magical-arts, etc.”
Revelation 21:8 “ “But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and *sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
Brother Virgil, I've survived three Cancers and rely on marijuana as the ONLY med that helps sometimes. I've been prescribed so many things. I thank God this med is easily obtainable.
I'm not accusing you but some people have convinced themselves that they truly need weed as a medication when really they just want to get high! I know this is true because I've done it myself!
@@tomgunn8004 I'm sure you'd handle three Cancers much better than me. You have no idea.
If marijuana helped you medically, then there is no sin, in my mind.
I believe almost anything on this planet can be used for a good purpose or a bad purpose. Everything boils down to motive, are we using drugs for medical reasons or just to get high? We are supposed to be of a sober mind. When I used to smoke weed everything became funny lol or my friends and I started to have deep thoughts and WE ALL became philosophers when we got stoned at least everyone that I knew so it does alter our thinking when we are high. But I do believe it has its purpose when necessary TC.
@@twhite3850that’s why we can’t rely on your mind. Rely on the Bible.
This brings up an interesting point. Marijuana and alcohol can harm our bodies. Well, so does sugar consumption and overeating. Is over-indulgence in sugar, junk-food and salt a sin as well? That's something to ponder.
I don't think Virgil is calling it a sin, just advising against it, using alcohol as comparison.
Boils down to moderation and seeking first God's kingdom
Cake and burgers are not addictive, and eating them will not interfere with your ability to think straight, like alcohol and recreational drugs are and do.
@@gregb6469 Very good points greg. Although, I would argue that sugar and salt in food has been proven to be addictive, but not near the level of alcohol and recreational drugs. Good points though.
I know sugar, fastfood, boxed and ready to eat foods have a huge negative impact on our physical health which leads to an impact on our mental health - soda too. Cigarettes & alcohol are poison and destroys not only the user, but those around them. Our bodies are His - this is why sexual immorality (which leads to disease) is wrong too - God's Word tells us what to obtain from and gives us a brain to know what is better for us - while I agree smoking it is a problem for various reasons, the edibles are a better choice vs pharmaceuticals - and when used as an aid for pain, anxieties - it is more of a natural - it is amazing all the plants in your local area that can be made for medical usages.
@gregb6469 ofcourse they are addictive, do you even have an idea how many berger joints and how many bakeries are in the US. Berger joints 89 thousand, Bakeries 10 + thousands. And you were saying what?
I think drinking alcohol is worse than taking a few hits of pot here and there especially if it’s for sleep or nausea, alcohol is baddd and can change a persons attitude in a bad way, I’ve never seen anyone wanna fight or kill someone while smoking pot, just saying ….
Its ridiculous that anytime someone attempts to justify a sin, they compare it to something similar. Really? Test your sins against the Bible only!!!
1 Corinthians 6 : 12 International Children's Bible
12 “I am allowed to do all things.” But not all things are good for me to do. “I am allowed to do all things.” But I must not do those things that will make me their slave.
@glenmj1 - that verse answers it best.
Rev 9:21 "Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their *Drug Use*, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts."
I'll be honest I have struggled with this issue for a while now. I was on meds like Hydroxyzine, Zoloft, etc and they made me feel horrible and I couldn't sleep so I was also prescribed Trazadone. A couple puffs of cannabis took care of all this. I know that Timothy took wine for his stomach issue so I compared it to that.
Any thoughts on this?
i think medical use is completely fine. even if it wasnt directly prescribed to you
I use it every now and then when I get nauseous which happens to me a couple times a month and when I can’t fall asleep, but literally like 2-3 hits off a bowl
Only god knows your heart but medical use is totally fine. My father had terminal cancer and he used it for appetite because it’s the opening that would make him eat. For myself, I am prescribed very strong and additive pills for my issues. These pills are way stronger and much more dangerous so in turn I end up having to take edibles at times medically at night for pain/sleep. Of course I also sin sometimes and take it recreationally and that’s wrong and ideally my goal is to not take anything at all as soon as my body cooperates but until then if it’s taken for medical purposes especially in place of pills I don’t believe that’s a sin. Obviously this is just from my own experience and my reading of the word or god.
@@kirillsergeyev7116 Agreed and I will lift u up in prayer 🙏🏼
I think most things in moderation is fine as long as you don't become a slave to it. Alcohol is proven to destroy lives much more than cannabis and yet it's much more accepted.
The truth is, it destroys your prayer life-freezes your spiritual growth-it triggers anger and and brings no blessings-it makes it easier to get misled into cults and anti Christian organizations-it makes you over eat -buy stuff that you don’t need , listen to ungodly music,Watch ungodly tv shows & movies ,it amplifies your lust after sexual desires-it drives a wedge between you and the Holy Spirit-It definitely does not bring you closer to God -if anything, it pushes you farther away…
Amen brother.
BS
Altering your senses is dissipation.
I agree, how far do we take this? what about caffeine or kratom?
Must display complete self control
Amen ❤✝️🙏
The medical use of cannabis is alot better than the use of morphine, codeine, vicodan, etc... and alot less addictive than those substances also!! When used responsibly it is in my opinion a better option, although smoking it might not be the best way to use it using ointments, drops and edibles are! It should have a place in medicine as it can be helpful!
Amen.
Truth
Romans 12:1
“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.”
King James Version (KJV)
It's easy to control stoned people and to put a person in a lull (not caring). 😢
However, scripture gives numerous examples where alcohol is seen in a positive light - while drunkenness is condemned, alcohol use is not. It would seem then that the dividing line is drawn on impairment.
Regarding Psalm 104:14-15, Matthew Henry noted: “Here is wine that makes glad the heart, refreshes the spirits, and exhilarates them, when it is soberly and moderately used, that we may not only go through our business, but go through it cheerfully. It is a pity that it should be abused to overcharge the heart, and unfit men for their duty, which was given to revive their heart and quicken them in their duty.”
I doubt weed was in the garden of Eden…remember, the ground was cursed
Can I have the cites?
2 Corinthian 6 vs 14 to 18 will show don't be equally yoked with the unbeliever definition of sober minded was a addict for 10 years
I have a hard time coming to a conclusion about this subject(intoxicating substances). One group says it’s a sin to drink or smoke at all. Another side says moderation and the extremely liberal person says have your fill. There are a lot of passages that complete sobriety is the way to go. And there are passages that indicate that wine isn’t a bad thing and it’s to be enjoyed. So I don’t know. I really doubt Jesus made non alcoholic wine (grape juice) at the wedding in Cana. And there are many others that paint wine in a good light. What do we make of those passages?
MSQ75
I needed to see your admission today. May the Lord God richly bless you and keep you. Jesus is the Only One who can fill that place in our hearts and souls.
Peace to you
God bless you 🙏
What would he have said to wine consumption?
Bet you wont answer.
The Bible does speak about marijuana, no, it doesn't give it a name (so there is no biblical justification of the street names) but it speaks about what it truly is, a seed bearing herb that God said was good. It is do different in composition than any of the other herbs in our pantries or cabinets. It doesn't have to be smoked to benefit from its proper use. However, it does require self-control, which if evidence of the Holy Spirit's inner presence, along with integrity and maturity.
Genesis 1:11, 12, "Then God said, let the earth bud forth the bud of the herb, that seedeth seed, the fruitful tree, which beareth fruit according to his kind, which hath his seed in itself upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth the bud of the herb, that seedeth seed according to his kind, also the tree that beareth fruit, which hath his seed in itself according to his kind: and God saw that it was good."
Natural herbs require seeds to reproduce, fruit requires seed to reproduce, men and mammals require seed to reproduce, etc.
Heroin comes from opium plants that have seeds as well. You think God would approve of you using it? God was talking about certain herbs to eat, not psychoactive substances.
@@retard6477 Glad you said that, man made heroin, not God. Just because man deviates from God's perfect pan/ will doesn't put God at fault. Men need to be accountable that is why self control is one of the evidences of the Holy Spirit's presence in a person.
@@retard6477 I'm glad you said that, God did not create heroin, men did. Most people would look at a poppy field and be awestruck by the beauty of the flowers. How many people do you think really knows what coca plants look like? So, that group would probably be shocked at what men produce from it. The indiscretions of men is the problem. We trust doctors because we're told too, why not trust God the creator the same way?
To make a long story short; marijuana allowed me to increase my intelligence based on the contaminated atheistic knowledge of this world.
I smoke still but not recreational.. i have pain issues and sleep issues.. i am saved and a christian .. there is a huge difference between recreational and medical ... but i actually see that it is recreational that is the talk about not medicinal
I smoked and listened to the law of attraction. Changed my life FOREVERRRRR .. learned bout my self ,& decided to love me more . The stars, moon and trees became my best friend (God creation) ..I was also able to remove negative energy (evil spirits) that was put on to me . I’m now a changed woman! God is looking for your heart & soul , the body means nothing… the Bible does not mention anything bout smoking herbs( God creation) but does mention about getting drunk .. that is why God drank wine ( grapes are part of Earth creation ) drinking wine is fine but don’t get drunk . A drunken mind can be controlled by the devil
I believe drug use comes under the definition of “sorcery”.
" Hast thou faith? Have it to thyself & to God. Happy is he that is NOT condemned in the thing that he alloweth".
1 Corinthians 6 : 12 The Message
12 Just because something is technically legal doesn’t mean that it’s spiritually appropriate. If I went around doing whatever I thought I could get by with, I’d be a slave to my whims.
How about prednisone, percoset, ritalin, all pain killers. They all alter the brain.
It’s not what goes into man that defiles him, it’s what comes out….. when Jesus turned water to wine, did the people go to hell when they drank it??
Alcohol and cannabis are not comparable. Just like apples and oranges
Marijuana is indeed like wine... remind me, Didn't Jesus turn water into Wine at a Wedding Celebration?
also: Genesis 1:29 (Look it up)... That tells me that in Moderation and at appointed Times it is no sin. Just Like Wine: We are supposed to Avoid Drunkenness (I fail here, give wine to those sick at heart until they are filled with cheer, and strong drink unto those that are dying until they hurt no more - Two "Cut-Off" Gaurdrails?).
Also the Hebrew for Sweet Calamais is Qaneh Bosem (Kaw-nay Bos-em) a mispronunciation of the English Cannabis or rather: Vise Versa for which is a mispronunciation. Qaneh meaning Reed/Rod in English and Bosem (Plural, singular: Bos) means Aromatic or sweet smelling (Again: Describing BOTH Sweet Calamus AND Marijuana).
Also, etymologically we get Cannabis from the Scythians who are from one track through history descendants of Isaac (GOD said that Isaac's house would be known by his name: Scythian in Greek, Sakka in the Middle eastern tongues: I-SA-kka... I-SAI-thian from the Pronunciations SA-kka and SAI-thian respectively).
Then there is that in the ruins of one Jewish Temple archaeology excavation discovered from the Ancient Bible days (A temple in the Israel), [I think they said it was one of the temples that was built away from Jerusalem during the original "Two State Solution" for Israel, the Dividing of the land into the Kingdoms of Irael and Judah Respectively]: it had the incense burners that were recovered with TESTABLE MATERIALS still on that tray... one of the two came back as Marijuana.
IF we are Biblically Permitted to partake: IT is CLEAR by Scriptures that it is in Moderation Specifically and it is Drunkenness that is the Sin.
Therefore it is acceptable in Medical use, as well if not specifically for outside certain appointed uses/times (Such as My Medical issue, I just need to drop the Drunkenness).
Just stay away from Rastafarian Sorcery: Jesus Christ did NOT get lit to be in the Spirit or sense visions, that is a lie from the Pit of HELL. The Word of GOD says that No sorcerers, Idolaters, Whores/Whoremongers, Blasphemers, or Fornicators will see Heaven.
You do not NEED Marijuana in any regard to be in the spirit... it is more likely that such drunkenness (And all forms thereof) have an OPPOSITE Effect of SILENCE: that one cannot Discern the Spirit.
It is better to be filled with the Spirit and not drunkenness.
It is the Glory of GOD to conceal a Matter, and the Glory of Kings to Reveal it.
Let's seek Jesus and be filled with the Spirit and Give thanks for all that the Lord has made for us, and doubly so for teaching us how to delight in HIS creation as HE Designed it!! Seek the Lord in Sobriety, and Give Thanks!!
I do NOT have Authority to Speak on this subject:
This is not a Two-Verse/Two-Witness matter!! We need a Full Set of Seven Verses and Jesus Christ HIMSELF to teach.
I have Shared what I have Learned: Seek Jesus for more!!
Let all I have done here to be a Road Sign to set the Traveler's feet on the Road to Jesus Christ the Only Begotten Son of ALMIGHTY GOD. Seek O~h Travelers and you shall Find: Jesus Christ is The Truth, The Way, and The Life!!
Do you all notice no one speaks on the MIND ALTERING DRUG CALLED (coffee) CAFFEINE !!! Yet coffee has many health benefits I don’t believe cannabis has to be used to get high, self control or temperance is key but yet there are many health benefits to cannabis just like coffee/caffeine which are both mind altering drugs, by the way there is studies that show they have slightly the same effects on the brain. Again I don’t agree with using something to get high but small amounts of cannabis used for it’s health benefits can be beneficial and blessing to our over all health and wellness, and self control, moderation, and having a pure heart is important the Lord knows why we do what we do .
The most dangerous thing is miss information I don’t know of any major crimes done due to smoking a joint yet many are killed every day because of wrong way drivers or just drunk drivers. My question to all readers how can you know the truth when you miss so much of the missing scriptures. We’ve been conditioned to only except portions of the work of Yahuah and if was purposeful. Yahuah is Yahuah if people who are seeking Him with their heart than their whole heart He will come in and sup with them. There are bigger things to speak on than pot smoking which I don’t do. If I can’t find it in the Word I don’t listen a lot of things was just to control people into thinking someone else’s thoughts. Line upon line precepts upon precepts.
What I struggle with is that I would much rather use small doses of marijuana then take more brain meds (welbutrin, lexapro, etc). the science is out, and nominal use of marijuana, and more use, does not affect you physically. However the brain meds I go through and need, abuse my body horribly. If I don't take it to be intoxicated as a high schooler or Cheech and Chong would use, but use it for a medical based reason, is it really a bad thing?? The church I go to would certainly tell me not to use it but I am currently in disagreement. Especially because the affects of medical marijuana is the same as recreational, so its hard with this presented argument to see the difference.
There are other Godly men who struggled with the same issues you've articulated here. Charles Haddon Spurgeon, the prince of preachers, comes to mind. Others have written on the topic, Dr. Martyn Lloyd Jones has an incredible book called, "Spiritual Depression" that I'd recommend as reading. While the struggle with anxiety and depression aren't easy, there are other things to consider than habitual marijuana use or the constant use of SSRIs.
@@VirgilWlkr Thanks for the video and the response. I will check that book out. Also, I enjoyed your interview on Living Waters. Take care!
its ridiculous that anytime someone attempts to justify a sin, they compare it to something similar. Really? Test your sins against the Bible only!!!
Sweet cane reed in Bible
Addiction is hands down SIN!! Period!!
With respect Pastor Walker I think the issue has more complexity than you deal with here. All Christians must agree that intoxication, inebriation, drunkenness or any equivalent state is sinful and never an option. However, with marijuana use (and many other substances) there are two further questions that we must answer: (i) Has God tasked the civil magistrate with the restriction of substances that can be used to intoxicate? and (ii) Are all uses of marijuana intoxicating? Answering (i) in the affirmative leads to prohibition, and in the negative leads to Christian advocacy for the legalization of all drugs. Answering (ii) is more difficult and comes down to the details of each substance. Finally, it is not proper to equivocate between drunkenness and "a state of altered consciousness", because the latter is ambiguous and Ps 104:15 ("wine to gladden the heart of man") is a kind of altering of consciousness.
All marijuana use causes alterations in the brain function. We are told to have complete self control. A person on drugs can’t fulfill that command.
Stop. You just confused yourself. His point is very clear and concise
we are called to be sober in many scriptures, the heart is deceitful always looking for excuses to justify sin . You have confused yourself with your own comment. The bible is our authority its Gods very word you deny being sober and abstaining from substances you not waging war on pastors but God Himself
Interesting that I'm the confused one and I offered a clear statement of the precise points on which I think Pst Walker needs to be more careful, but neither of the responses engage with these.
We are called to be sober minded and to not take pleasure in the lust of the flesh.
Only things that God permits such as enjoying the pleasure of knowing one's wife or husband is permitted due to God's explicit commands of things that can be enjoyed within a marriage.
Drug use is not permitted to the Christian.
MJ... Cigarettes...heroin..crack...pills...the list goes on and on... We are not to partake in the list of the flesh and various pleasures of the world.
End of story.
Not being rude, just to the point.
Let's not dance around this like how so many "Christians" like to dance around other sins.
Life is hard.. we have struggles.. but we find our rest in our savior Jesus.
It's easy and simple to follow God.
His yoke is easy.
Marijuana has many benefits. In fact if people replaced alcohol for it, there would be less deaths
14 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
In the bible.. " eating herbs " was not in reference to smoking marijuana. If you choose to go there.. it's your free will, even if it's not of God.
@@JustJoe326 nowhere was that quoted in what I said
Let alone herbs are okay to eat and consume
Genesis 1:29 Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every seed-bearing plant
Yet there is nothing wrong when The benefits of THC and CBD in fact, it's very beneficial. There has been more people who die to alcohol yet is justified by many
@@lionf7224 Yes. Drunkards will not enter heaven either.
"Alcohol can cause users to become reckless or aggressive; marijuana doesn't have this effect."
~Pennie, Nottingham, UK
@@lionf7224 Contaminated worldly knowledge information. (Truths mixed with ' attractive ' untruths)
Do ALL THINGS with moderation
Really…really?
@@Unapologetically_Masculine do you believe The Word of God?
@rogercollins8875 do you believe the ENTIRE Word of God? What most do is take one excerpt that they believe is favorable to them, without context, and ignore the remaining 66 books in the Bible. Please READ them prior to responding.
@@Unapologetically_Masculine good morning.
Let's get this right, your not going to come at me with sarcasm and think I'm going to accept that, your mistaken.
If you want to be a real man instead of macho man I'm sure this topic could be talked about at great lengths, all who engage can without oppression be able to be apart of a mature manly conversation.
Masculinity goes way deeper the our exterior facades...
@rogercollins8875 I apologize if my approach came across as offensive. My goal is to share that the singular passage can easily be taken out of context.
Lies
But the West Minster & LBC that you all quote says "God decrees all things, whatsoever comes to pass" (then immediately contradicts itself, check with a 5th grader they can spot it). If God is making them commit substance abuse via his Meticulous Determinism (per: Calvin's Institutes book 1, chptr 16, prgph 8) it's not the person's fault. That's how you all teach Romans mid-9 "Who can resist His will".
"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?" - Romans 6:1
Even so after that, the unregenerate man is free to choose whatever he desires, but he won't choose God. That is, until he's regenerated by the Spirit and given a heart of flesh, which allows him to love God and enjoy keeping His commandments. The regenerate, faithful, and saved man, on the other hand, is commanded to walk in the Spirit.
God has decreed the end from the beginning, and is sovereign over all things. In many cases, He allows the sinner to have their sin (in other cases He may thwart or abate sin). He's not making them sin, lighting the flame, or putting the substance in their mouth.
@@JarrettsAnnouncements I agree with Romans 6:1... that's Scripture. The rest of what you said is not. It is Calvinism, a man-inspired theology that came along centuries after the Gospels & Epistles were penned.
No one in scripture is irresistibly regenerated THEN given faith to believe. All can call upon Jesus for salvation. It is cult-like to teach only a special favored elite elect will someday be irresistibly regenerated...all others have a divine decree of reprobation upon them, they are vessels made for destruction with no hope, no grace, no mercy offered them.
Here you are, a verse for every point I made. Please let me know if you'd like additional verses or more context.
"Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin." John 8:34
"As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.” Romans 3:10-12
"Moreover, I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh." Ezekiel 36:26
"f you love Me, you will keep My commandments." John 14:15
"But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh." Galatians 5:16
"Remember the former things long past, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me, Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things which have not been done, Saying, ‘My purpose will be established, And I will accomplish all My good pleasure’;" Isaiah 46:9-10
"Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone. But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death." James 1:13-15
"Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling." Matthew 23:37
@@JarrettsAnnouncements You're missing the point. I agree with the passages warning us of the ravage of sinful behavior.
It's the Calvinism taught on G3. That & they teach "Total Depravity" from Romans 3:10-18. In that passage Paul is pulling from Psalm 14 & 53 of what the FOOL says & does... have you been swift to shed blood?
Ezekiel 36 is cool with me, because God can give any & everyone a heart of flesh. It is cult-like to teach only a special favored elite elect will be saved...all others can't be, they have a divine decree of reprobation upon them from God.
Isaiah 46 is spot on too. But unfortunately Calvinists conflate God's sovereignty with absolute determinism. God's foreknowledge of all events does not make Him the causal agent of all events (see Jeremiah 19:5 for one of many examples).
@mikelyons2831 I get that you're after Calvinism, not the sinfulness of sin.
Help me understand- if Paul was quoting Psalm 14 and 53 about warning against shedding blood, was he himself using it out of context to make his point that both Jews and Greeks were under sin? It seems to me that when he was writing Romans 3:9, he roped in the concept that all were under sin to support his point. If that's the case, it seems fair to have the concept of depravity/inability stand.
The concept of the elect as Calvinists define it is a conceptual principle based on the indicative statements of Jesus in John 6 and 10. I believe that His words are perspicuous.
"Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.” John 6:35-40 ESV
"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day." John 6:44 ESV
"Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father’s name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me,is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.” John 10:25-30 ESV
The "decree" word in ESV for Jeremiah 19:5 can also be translated "speak," and if that's the case, it's not talking about ordainment. If it were to mean decree in the sense of ordainment, then there would be contradictions in Scripture with the more explicit presentations of concepts.
What about GMO foods? Where is your dominance over that?
How about pesticides etc .....
Oh but man says we can use these things so it's okay, right?
Marijuana is NOT mind altering.
GMO's are from evil men corrupting God's naturally given foods.
Marijuana is definitely mind altering.
Touch not taste not... Apostle Paul said I am afraid of you.
That is exactly what is going on here.
Men saying no, touch not taste not
But you can sure go get dangerous prescriptions that's ok
Only fake converts think and wonder about this.
Your being a Pharisee...
That is a fundamentally un Christian statement!
@thehow2s - Exactly!
It's very hard for people to let go of the things they love in this world.
@@muppetonmeds that doesn't automatically mean that someone a fake convert though...
In fact, in my experience, the fakest converts, are all too often the first ones to cut other believers throats with extreme legalism......
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