The Most Wishlisted Steam Game Just Exploded on Launch
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- Опубліковано 6 гру 2023
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In this video I discuss the failed launch of indie game The Day Before.
#thedaybefore #gamedev
Ask not what the studio will pay you, but how much joy you will gain by volenteering for the studio
There's every likelihood that this is a smash n grab. What is stopping them from taking the pre-order cash and just vanishing? Steam may refund purchases out of their pocket but then they need to reclaim that from the publisher. But is this a business that is currently operating out in the wilderness of the Russian territories and currently overseen by a government that has little interest in protecting the finances of western corporations. And it's so easy to just open a new limited business and pay for a new Steam publishing fee.
Dude, but they'll pay you with *EXPOSURE* LOL
Ah, mysterious ruZZian soul
what a CCP attitude to have
@@Trakor1to the frontlines you go! 🇺🇦
Unless people refund, they will still have made a lot of money. The reviews you showed did not show 'player refunded the game'.
If steam pulls the game and refunds everyone, that will be the only bad outcome for these 'developers'.
Consumers have the tools to protect themselves but many choose not to use them. It's a shame.
I believe this isn't 100% correct, from what I've seen, players that review after refunding will show the 'refunded' tag, whereas if you review *then* refund, I don't think it updates it showing the refund. (source: is dev of a different Steam game and seen it happen)
60$?! Sure they will ask for refund! This game should cost 5-15$ or even be free with in-app purchases)
Interesting, I did not know this. From a quick google you seem to be right. Valve should fix this, a negative review with or without refund gives much more info. @@FirstCrimson
Living in Siberia, just the money they made from Propnight boosted by the hype for this game will have made them rich by local standards.
>Most great indie games from studios with years of experience get almost no attention
>A group of nobodies appear out of nowhere with a game with shiny graphics and everyone wishlist it.
That comes to show that nowadays most "gamers" only care about the graphics and marketing.
Seems those experienced indie studios don't read the market well, they should blame themselves or keep their expectations realistic.
@@mrpirate4100 You do know that marketing is really expensive, right?
If The Day Before had come out in the early 1990s, most people wouldn't even know that it existed due to negative word-of-mouth and extremely poor sales. Then the development studio would likely go under not long after, and no one would ever knew it existed, either.
But in 2023, games like The Day Before can gain such high traction in the gaming media, and generate such a hype train which it does not deserve before it all comes crashing down. Something tells me we haven't progressed as a species.
Too true, I've seen some people say that if it was decades ago, this game would have been a huge success. It makes me grimace, those years were the golden age of gaming and there was no room for this crap.
well its the nature of technology, knowledge and information gets transferred instantaneously. We *have* progressed as a species but not fast enough to catch up with how fast technology progresses. We just need to progress faster. Technology is fast, incredibly fast so we haven't been able to keep up with it.
This only other thing this game makes me think, is that there needs to be serious ramifications for false advertising games. Its happened so many times across every popular platform where games are marketed. This biggest hurdle to it is the globalization of game dev tho, each country needs it own legality when it comes to these things.
I low-key feel like there's something illegal going on with these devs.
100%
what if they are hired by russian ministry of defence to scam entire world helping russian army or russia dealing with sanctions
Everyone saw it coming. The amount of times I saw people say "this is not even a real game" on every single teaser or info from them haha
Anyone who even remotely paid attention at least. Yet somehow too many ignored the obvious and just got it anyway, and then have the nerve to act surprised
i didnt realise who was behind it, but when i saw those faces, i knew what was going on. i hope ALL people can still refund, and one day this will happen to a AAA studio. devs need to start realising that we as gamers are getting sick and tired of this kind of shit.
They won't know that while some of our community keeps buying these utter tripe games
Apparently there are millions of Gamers who are not sick and tired of this garbage because they continually buy every broken unfinished scam of a game the day it releases on Steam and it's always the top seller so yeah people are stupid especially gamers
Most developers are working really hard for little money. They do it out of passion, because they love working on their vision. But as everywhere, there are just a few rotten apples in the bucket.
This makes the DayZ standalone's early access window, twelve trillion glitches and all, look like a masterpiece.
This looks infinitely better than dayz console and this game looks trashhhhh
"It looks like they are being held at gunpoint" made me rofl 🤣
Very very VERY FUNNY! I love seeing how this whole saga turned out. Hilarious
When you described the process to the release, I kept hearing red flags, lol. I'm surprised it had so much hype when it was smelling so fishy from the start.
People are idiots who blindly believe anything they are fed these days. What do you expect?
False advertising is bad. Copyright theft of advertising style is illegal. I expect it to end badly for them.
I thought it was about some Lost Relic Games video time! Hope you are doing good, mate.
Cheers my dude 🍻
Hey man, doing ok! Christmas/end of year time is always action packed. Hoping to get some consistent content up in the new year
I've been on the edge of my seat, popcorn at the ready. The moment I saw the original renders they called gameplay, I knew this was going to be trainwreck to behold. The false advertising genre switcheroo, however, I didn't see coming. So, kudos for plot twist, I guess.
Catastrophy. Thank you for sharing a good and bad examples of game dev. This one is epic.
I feel really bad hearing this news _-_ Fntastic is from Russian region Yakutia (Sakha in our language) where I'm from. There is little to no game studios in whole Russia, and seeing that studio of your fellow yakuts is a scam is heartbreaking
Please make a video on showing progress on your own game. Really excited about it.
The beginning part of the game was literally Fallout New Vegas opening.
"Consider what it takes to beat out Karlsson by D4ni" I was so hoping you'd mention this.
Oh... you don't know what Karlsson is...?
I miss the milkman. Hope we see him again soon 🙏
We are the Gotovtsev brothers and we want to... pump... this game up.
If they put in the same amount of determination and effort as the "No Man's Sky Dev's," then maybe they can come back.
I wouldn't count on it, though.
The thing that I notice about that is No Man's Sky was a rare case of comeback, lighting in a bottle. It's not a standard.
But people keep hoping every single game that launched broken or bare mechanics to have a 'No Man's Sky' comeback some day. These shitty devs know it and they keep selling people an empty promise, not a game.
@@dofydudes1735 some people are inhaling military grade copium, if you read some of the reviews, thay say that with some polish and work, it has great potential, really? another 5 years, 10 years?
no amount of time is going to solve this massive mess and accomplish what they promised, specially if they don´t have any employees like Hello Games has, as they only had "volunteers"
“Hit the spot” video….dead on 👍🏻
Reminds me of that dinosaur breeding game where the guy stole like 2 million bucks. And got away with it.
Can't wait for the day after
This game and the company behind it will be hopefully the mainstream example for everything thats wrong in the game branch today.
its an indie company not a AAA. Just like no mans sky devs.
@@lukeGGlee being an indie dev should not be used as an excuse anymore
@@lukeGGleeObviously irrelevant
People, remember that you can refund your game on Steam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and please, if you have dignity, don't give your money to these shady guys, refund your game.
For Unrecord: it does not really matter if the game will look like that. But the demo already showed it CAN look like that. Super realistic graphics.
Everyone who bought this deserved what they got. How the hell can you not know about this game? How do you not do a quick Google before buying a game? Seriously? At a certain point gamers have to face the fact they are the problem. Shooting their money at hype instead of doing some due diligence and looking for great games. It's the same thing as anyone who was disappointed in Starfield or No Mans Sky or DayZ. Stop preordering, stop buying things on launch, Google the game before you spend money on it.
This game has grossed $15M (very rough estimate I did, not factual number) because people are lazy and stupid.
amen to that, i swear the people who blindly buy these kind of games are the AI the day before devs modelled their zombie AI from. Like from all the other game examples we have that had the same issues come up from before, these guys continue buying blindly. Then throw fits like angry toddlers about how they were disapointed XD Hilarious
A super refreshing take, absolutely true.
Gamers are the reason games suck and are cash grabs now
What's even more sad is that after these games have absolute terrible releases you have the dumb horde of "fans" more zombie than human people who will remain supporting the game regardless. Gamers are just a stupid group of people to be honest. They also enabled all the microtransaction BS that they now complain about (somebody was paying for all those skins).
If no one would buy games on launch there wouldn't be any content to google for before buying the game. I do understand and agree with your point but if we would really follow it to the letter we would stop buying new games altogether.
Russia had such gamedev scams before so it’s not surprising that they do it again but now for the whole world)
Yeah, like nobody did it before. The whole Kickstarter is full of such stories.
Surely no way they can come back from this. At least with no mans sky the team seemed faithful, they were misleading but definitely passionate about their game. This feels so profit and scam driven that I can't fathom the dev leadership behind it actually caring enough to improve it. There's also no way the trust is brought back
The sad part is that you're wrong.
They've made their money and can easily rebrand. Most people either don't know or don't care about who is working on the game.
Much like how many AAA companies have constantly screwed over their fanbases and are still thriving, the truth of the matter is that the majority of the gaming community will not take any actual action against these practices even though they posture about it.
It's for this same reason that hypetrains and scam games still thrive to this day. The laws around it are also very lenient as well. As long as a product is delivered, the promises made are not legally binding. So scummy developers can, with little to no consequence, lie about their game's scope, deliver the legal minimum, and laugh their way to the paycheck they secured.
You can see definitive proof of this by just looking at the Steam Discussion forum. It's a pretty common sight.
Not to mention the clear censorship with the devs moderating the forum deleting threads at will.
Trust isn't necessary if you can blind and manipulate people at will. I guarantee you that those reviews will be mixed in a month or two with no actual improvements done.
Dude they made my classmate move to other country with whole of his family, they even sold their house here in Russia, then MyTona just fired him
How did people not see this coming? A studio with minimal prior experience suddenly claims to have a AAA title. Who's prior titles are obscure shovelware. A business which relies upon an unpaid workforce that is promising career making recognition and run by two guys that come across as more slimy than a grease-covered used-car salesman. Promotional material that deliberately replicates big name brands. And even more red flags beyond this to boot.... and still people paid for it...
I wish I knew these people too, because I'm a wealthy african prince who needs to transfer my fortune into a foriegn bank account due to insurgency in my kingdom. Please send me your bank details and I'll reward you handsomely 😅
Just wanted to check by myself ... opended Steam (in Germany) ... the FIRST(!) recommended game "The day before". With close to 10.000 votings and "Äußerst Negativ" (extremely bad) in total. How can Steam still recommend this piece of ... art? Those algorithms are a strange thing. 😂
It tracks traffic coming from outside steam, the more the higher it is
When will we learn that "Indie" and "Open world mmo" never go well together lol
The actual company is more Singaporean/Chinese than Russian. It just seems that way because that's what they wrote down. Fnastic is based in Singapore.
Feels like a shell company for a Chinese parent company.
Singapore is not China.
Also they are from Siberia. Yakutsk.
Please continue your regular devlogs 👌
Im just so curious as to how they managed to pull of the trailer way back...I mean it didnt feel like a asset flip it felt like they had genuinly put in some work. This is so weird.
But to the point about volonteering....i don´t know, if people agree to work for free is it really the "employers" responsibility to not let them?
yes. because labor laws lol
in all seriousness, I think there's definitely a culture of "do this for us now, and when we make money we'll take care of you" it's fairly rampant in software dev (and probably in other industries, but this is the one I work in). It sort of the same kinda thing as those "jobs" where they have you sell knives or whatever it is these days. there's a carrot. and it's exploitative.
Yea everything that demands some creativity seems be "for free"....@@cassolmedia
The only up and coming game I see really living up to the hype train is GTA 6.
Game That Seems Too Good To Be True... Is Too Good To Be True
Steam should pull the game. They really need to start having better measures preventing garbage games and scams on their platform. There's so many porn type anime games on there now it's ridiculous. Even if you aren't interested in those genres they start making it into the lists because of how many are spammed on steam.
Unfortunately that causes issues with who is making the judgement, but more importantly revenue.
Making rules for pulling games will hurt Steam's revenue, so ultimately they won't do it.
Steam is not a villian in this. This is simply an emergent issue currently hotly contested on all sides.
Ideally having high quality control would be great, but as soon as the company takes a hand in it, not only will it cost a ton of manpower to moderate, it will 100% become corrupt as well.
Community-based quality control is the best way to deal with this, it's just that the community is easily manipulated and mostly ignorant/apathetic of what goes on behind the scenes. There are often several bad actors within the community as well. (Take a quick look at the Steam Discussions)
Videos like these that inform the player community are steps that help this issue.
To combat these companies scam people by feeding misinformation, creators keep the community aware of issues by breaking down information easily understood by the layman gamer. However, there are also creators that push misinformation for profit or unknowingly do so. Basically it's media warfare.
Another quick note is legality. Games like these are legal. They only need to deliver the minimum and as long as they are "working on it", there is no legal issue. Legality within the games industry is also a giant mess of corruption as well with legalized gambling through a proxy and scam crowd-funded games getting the OK legally.
@@DaskeXSaku It's better for steam's reputation to avoid games that are scams and severely incomplete. You can lose revenue by people exiting your platform due to lack of curation. Look what happened to sites like ebay. It used to be the biggest trading site now it's mostly known to be a haven for scammers.
Steam used to curate before and have more oversight with game releases. Now they practically let any game on their platform. It's why searching for decent games on the platform over the years has become such a chore. Other companies like Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo already do this to prevent trash from piling up on their listings and having to constantly refund scam games.
Does Dead Matter count in this category or does that not meet the hype requirement? If so I feel like Dead Matter takes the cake
Never heard of that game before.
Free to play alternatives: Stalcraft - Stay Out - Will to Live online!
Division 2 is also on sale atm for $9!
So glad I got a refund on this!!
Well 4 days after the launch, they closed the Studios and purchase was disabled on the Steam page.
"looks like a AAA game made by Ubisoft"
LOL that is actually a savage burn
Bro when will you'r game come i was waiting for it
Im pretty sure they ran out of money and decided to do the early access release for the cashgrab, cuz what this game shows for 5 years of development, it needs a least 15 more to deliver what it has promissed.
It is like their being held at gunpoint. They look very either scared or the other mean word
Funniest part is that i refunded with only 6 hour's but didnt get it accpeted bc of the 2 hour limit, but it literally took 2 just to join a server, then when i did did a raid and lost everything in my stash and that i extracted with, but sure, i 'played' i guess, gg i got scammed i guess
I had it in my wishlist too and I got the notification that it was available… just to login in to steam and see the nightmare level reviews. 😐
Granted, even if those scenes are just staged and using purchased assets, it still takes a certain skill to put that together to look like that in motion.
Processing sales and refunds costs money. It wouldn't surprise me if Steam ends up banning this developer.
Their PR looks like "There is no war in Ba Sing Se" meme
3:00 proper North-Korea motivation speech.
We’ve gotta get the law involved now. Game companies have gotten away with too much lately. It’s time to bring the hammer down.
Planning to launch a kickstarter soon and I think this will impact negatively indie developers and proabably my campaign as well, which is disappointing because people who actually work and try to make things right suffer because of games like this one.
It's the cold time of the year. Oh, a warm dumpster fire. Sweet.
It feel good in that case to witness how comments and reviews on Steam are working to knock down a poor game like that.
The dev team of The day before should go in politics, they are good in lying and deceiving.
Honestly the most predictable thing ever
I CANNOT WAIT for Unrecorded to be exposed. It's amazing what people will believe. And no, the devs didn't prove s***.
unrecorded is real.. You can even follow a Unreal Engine 5 tutorial on how to create the realistic bodycam effect
I'm from Yakutia where game was made. I was pretty hyped about these guys as they began really well. Looked like they will repeat success of MyTona, our national heroes, because they've managed to become a unicorn company, we had two such companies in our republic before war, now none(lol). At some point MyTona bought them and it gave me a bit of optimism that the game will end up fine, boy was I wrong... To be honest, I believe that the game will eventually become good but PR is too damn bad at this point.
upd. I was corrected by my friend that works in MyTona - they weren't bought by MyTona, only financed.
lmao якутские деды moment
"game will eventually become good", that's the mindset we don't want in todays gaming industry. We shouldn't have broken and buggy games at launch , and expect them to "fix" it down the line. Games should be feature complete on day 1.
@@ryuno2097 game is in early access, but yeah I completely agree with you.
@@user-zk8ub4nc3o early access, it should have been free, not pay them to become their beta testers
@@user-zk8ub4nc3o"game will eventually be good" sure... not like they abandoned every single game before that bs
from my POV, it seems like they created a cheap 1:0.99 copy of various old games that **look** good, then built a studio on that hype, but they didn't even pay their employees
Probably if you're just honest about what your game is from the start you'll end up with a reasonably appropriate level of hype.
Even if you start ambitious and realize "we gotta make this way smaller"...if you realize before you start charging for it, and communicate to your audience, still not the end of the world even if there's some disappointment.
If you're intentionally dishonest and double down on it, well, not much to be done for it.
Wazzup everyone! 😊
Remember Ubisoft does this same scam year after year with there trailers and people gobble it up and don't bat an eye
That guys grin is creepy as hell tho.
Good aesthetics
And now the studio - Fntastic has closed. They claim that they are out of business because of the disasterious launch. Lol. Not really ironic, just dumb.
Wow, the game is being listed on Steams Featured and Recommended list, like the scrolling list of a dozen games and when you check it there's 10k+ negative reviews now.
The Last Night game developers are the best example that, how they respect their audience...
Someone should make everything they advertised with BattleBit graphics.
Wow, they're ALMOST as dishonest and greedy as the OW2 team. Impressive!
*People got scammed bro, how can you trust a shady developer and still say it’ll get better in the future, like bro! You know that dog meme sitting while the place is on fire yaaa that’s the one..*😂😂😂
I sense a battle looming - of stopping the bad aspects of Mobile from seeping into and becoming the norm on PC too. Everyone please refund.
The only thing I believe should happen is the two main developers and publishers should get sued by steam for false advertising that would stop a lot of this from happening because somebody needs to take responsibly and be punished for it. I believe just a refund isn't good enough because steam now has to take a hit on their platform and its going to be hard for people to trust steam anymore because of these developers promising a game that doesn't even come close to what they advertised in the trailers. False advertisement is illegal and punishment should come swiftly. This game was nothing but a scam and a huge cash grab and a lot of people got hurt from it especially steam.
the day before got destroyed by the negative reviews while the finals astonished every very person that played it or witnessed it at the game awards 😏
Imagine working on a game for free and have it tarnish your reputation before you even get started in the business.
LOL and EVERYONE thought Propnight was going to destroy Dead by Daylight.
Who needs game making experience? This game is just a bunch of assets from the UE marketplace worth 300$.
Steam is where indie games go to die!
Damn
They have to sue them. No shot they get away with this.
It exploded like i did on the toilet a few hours ago.
This game shouldn't come back from this. It should be removed from Steam completely and black listed from the community sending these developers back into the deepest corners of Siberia to survive in their own survival game living on tree bark!
*imploded is probably a more accurate term as opposed to "exploded" - GTA VI will "explode" when it comes out
0:38 but this is wrong trailer! you show us one of the latest (meh) ones!
They've made 2 millions, at least, in the first hour. People won't refund the game because they still have hope since it's EA.
A huge lie, it's not mmo nor open world, just a really simple and buggy extraction game.
Even worse, everything was made to waste players' time and not be able to refund. I wouldn't be surprised if they run away with the money and stop any dev.
Why is anyone acting suprised? WIth the shady stuff the developers were pulling even before launch anyone actually thought this was anything but shit?
This just highlights the fact that these days it isnt making a good game which seems to count its marketing and only marketing which really counts. All those people buying the game could have waited to find out if it was worth buying.
@2:51 anyone else think the video "The Culture of Volunteering at Fntastic" looks like they faked their faces?
That company is trying to figure out how to move that money to crypto right now.
They aren't going to try to fix this. They're going to take the money and run. 😂
You cannot trust any of these companies anymore. How many times are we going to let ourselves get burned? I refuse to buy any game now on the day it launches because of stuff like this. You have to wait and see how they develop. I usually don't get in until the first major patch. I have avoided this game and Starfield both really hyped but turned out to be just another turd in the punchbowl
TBF a ton of Japanese promotional media for content is filmed in this very static, planned gestures and very clear enunciated speech. And it feels as awkward there as it does here.
how much does steam reviews affect sales? If say like a universally praised game got review bomb
??? It affects A LOT…. People on PC wont buy it unless the complaints are no issue to the person.
@@powerhouse884 I just assumed that if people care enough about steam reviews, they're probably aware about a game's overall social media presence which in this scenario is positive. Surely opinions from the latter would be a lot more convincing.
Not saying that either is the truth, just one being more convincing
I think it's easy to make excuses for the game because it seemed like someone was putting in effort. But they knew that having people make their game for free while they profit was controversial so that's why they came up with their B's video to damage control...then more damage control by deleting their videos showing what type of game it is. Even if you are "review bombed" if something is popular enough then there will be a ton of good reviews to drown out the noise.
@@manbat4582 Dude, Steam Reviews is probably THE BEST review system out there. Only people who own the game and have played for a substantial amount can leave a review. Also the review has Overall score and Most recent score metrics which allows for games that SUCK at launch to still improve their metrics as UPDATES roll out to fix whatever problem there is.
If the game remains with BAD reviews after a few months then it means it was never fixed and you should probably spend your money on a better deal.
Best part about being a volunteer game dev is that you won't be held accountable for FNTASTICS incoming lawsuits. Take these scammers down.
when is your game going to be released? I been waiting since 2019 ; ; lol..
1.5k followers translates to about 15000 wishlists so he will probably release eventually.
Hey thanks for being an long time fan! Truth be told I made several key mistakes with the game early on, and I showed it off way too early. Right now the game has hit it's stride with vision/scope/workflow. But as a one man band, there's plenty of work to still be done. New devlog should be coming next week. Aiming to get a demo up.. soon
@@LostRelicGames I feel ya man. I'm about to hit 2.5 years on my 6 month demo. I stopped saying release dates like a year ago.
@@LostRelicGames well mistakes happen I am sure the game will be great when it comes out hopefully we can see a dev log soonish love your videos
While this is not a genre of game I care for so I had no plans to buy it, I had to watch a streamer play it for a few hours due to all of the controversy surrounding it's development. I was curious to see what they actually released compared to what they were promising. This game was thrown together from asset packs and kits available on the Unreal Marketplace. It's not the worst thing I've ever seen but there is definitely nothing original here. There's nothing resembling all the marketing leading up to it feature wise. And it looked incredibly boring and repetitive IMO, but again, it's not the type of game I care to play.
Smells like an intentional scam that just didn’t work out as well as they hoped.