Necropotence is great for saving you when someone is about to win the game. As long as they aren’t going to win on the spot, Even with a full hand, if you don’t have super low life, u can pay 10 and there’s a real good chance you’ll get a response, sure it might not be an overall great win but it’s saved my life many times.
Imperial seal and grim tutor were in sets with very small print runs (so there are less of the cards in circulation), and in addition, they have never been reprinted, and although demonic tutor and vampiric tutor weren't reprinted in high print run sets, any reprint is a reprint.
You can get Grim Tutore in 2021 Booster‘s for less then 5 bucks each if your lucky. Shouled have become less rare and more available with the reprint...
Vampiric tutor also puts it on the top of your library dude.😂 Also when did these cards start being rated on fairness? Sorin is good both as a card and a character.
In my respectful opinion, getting out Grave Pact turn four is always better than turn five Dictate of Erebos. He talked about "timing on your side". Playing faster and getting more room for mana using other spells is superior to having a flash. Using dictate in response to a boardwipe is ideal, although, consistency is key and a situational condition is not consistent.
OMG SO THAT'S HOW MAIRSIL WORKS. I've always thought he was a terrible commander and now I see how simple that is. Basically havengul lich always at your disposal.
I don't feel like Sheoldred has aged well sadly. Archfiend of Depravity is much better at keeping the field clear for 2 less. For reanimation I don't like waiting till my upkeep for the trigger when cards like Reanimate exist.
Living Death somewhere. also, Hatred is an answer to permanents Black can't remove by CD killing the player. it doesn't even have to be your Commander :-)
I wouldn't say there isn't really a debate. Demonic tutor is better because you get it to hand. If you do have ways to draw a card vampiric is better, 1 mana instant speed is just the best you can get. Imho Sheoldred is miles ahead of any other black creature in this format, Razaketh is good but it's presence is weaker then sheoldred. Good list though. Honorable mention from myself would be hatred, but that's only really good for edh.
perfectMustache is so fabulas really? Different experiences I guess. I get a lot more value from sheoldred but it might just be cause I use a lot of graveyard tricks.
The thing is in more competitive decks, tutoring up so freely often wins you the game within that turn/ on the next turn. Sheoldred is far better in casual metas because they're so creature-bassd, but in competitive metas? My boi Razakety wins games in his own. Tutor up Life/Death, sac your lands to for more tutors, win the game. It's broken
Idk dude, I'm a lifetime mono black player and edh lover. You're missing a bunch of cards. Also I don't think Mickey works with triskelly. Putting a +1 counter is completely separate from putting a -1 counter. They don't cancel out. Remember I said "I don't think", I could be wrong. And Gary may not be number one but it's def top three. I've won more games with that card than any other card.
Remove counter to ping an enemy. Remove 2 to ping itself. It dies and comes back with an extra counter. remove 2 to ping an enemy, remove 2 to ping itself. Rinse repeat. that's the combo. and gary is good but depending on your meta the tutor's will always be the best cards in your deck.
Sam Levon Gary is really good but in black there are lot of better cards, necropotence is definitely top 3-2, demonic tutor is number 1 without a doubt. Gary is, I think, worse than : necropotence, demonic tutor, toxic deluge, vampiric tutor, and many others
The problem with Walking Ballista is its a 0/0 without Mikeaus but with him its a 1/1 so if you remove the +1/+1 counter from it, its still on the battlefield
Necropotence is great for saving you when someone is about to win the game. As long as they aren’t going to win on the spot, Even with a full hand, if you don’t have super low life, u can pay 10 and there’s a real good chance you’ll get a response, sure it might not be an overall great win but it’s saved my life many times.
Sheoldred is my favorite
Discard in black is your only ONLY enchant removal
@Alex Points is it new? As of four years ago there wasn’t any
Did you consider Yawgmoth's Will?
You mean yawgmoth's WIN?
Necro is a million times better than arena. It’s proved how powerful and truly versatile it really is over arena
why are imperial seal and grim tutor so expensive when vampiric tutor and demonic tutor are better?
Imperial seal and grim tutor were in sets with very small print runs (so there are less of the cards in circulation), and in addition, they have never been reprinted, and although demonic tutor and vampiric tutor weren't reprinted in high print run sets, any reprint is a reprint.
Grim Tutor has been reprinted!
You can get Grim Tutore in 2021 Booster‘s for less then 5 bucks each if your lucky. Shouled have become less rare and more available with the reprint...
Back doesn’t do enchant removal well, it doesn’t have ANY enchant removal
It have a creature that Black with a Green Ability that make a player sac a Enchatment
Vampiric tutor also puts it on the top of your library dude.😂 Also when did these cards start being rated on fairness? Sorin is good both as a card and a character.
Instant speed.
It wasn’t rated on fairness alone. Sorin only does that one thing well making him a linear planeswalker.
In my respectful opinion, getting out Grave Pact turn four is always better than turn five Dictate of Erebos. He talked about "timing on your side". Playing faster and getting more room for mana using other spells is superior to having a flash. Using dictate in response to a boardwipe is ideal, although, consistency is key and a situational condition is not consistent.
OMG SO THAT'S HOW MAIRSIL WORKS. I've always thought he was a terrible commander and now I see how simple that is. Basically havengul lich always at your disposal.
did he really put phyrexian arena after necropotence? got to bleach me eyes.
Liliana Vess can +1 any player, even you, so in certain situations it's good especially in a reanimator
decakebaker that version of her is now much better in my book because I need to discard to grave so desparately in my jund & grixis reanimators
Her tutor ability is the reason why she is insanely powerful.
I don't feel like Sheoldred has aged well sadly. Archfiend of Depravity is much better at keeping the field clear for 2 less. For reanimation I don't like waiting till my upkeep for the trigger when cards like Reanimate exist.
Living Death somewhere. also, Hatred is an answer to permanents Black can't remove by CD killing the player. it doesn't even have to be your Commander :-)
I wouldn't say there isn't really a debate. Demonic tutor is better because you get it to hand. If you do have ways to draw a card vampiric is better, 1 mana instant speed is just the best you can get. Imho Sheoldred is miles ahead of any other black creature in this format, Razaketh is good but it's presence is weaker then sheoldred. Good list though. Honorable mention from myself would be hatred, but that's only really good for edh.
perfectMustache is so fabulas really? Different experiences I guess. I get a lot more value from sheoldred but it might just be cause I use a lot of graveyard tricks.
perfectMustache is so fabulas those are some scary tricks, I can see how yiu could just sweep up the game in an instant that way 👌
The thing is in more competitive decks, tutoring up so freely often wins you the game within that turn/ on the next turn. Sheoldred is far better in casual metas because they're so creature-bassd, but in competitive metas? My boi Razakety wins games in his own. Tutor up Life/Death, sac your lands to for more tutors, win the game. It's broken
Bobby Stout Woah!!!! That Life // Death interaction is mindblowing and uber risky; I've never thought of that!
Phyrexian arena is just not a great card. You could always just pay 1 for necropotence. It's way WAY better. Arena shouldn't even be on the list.
Phyrexian Arena Sees CONSISTENT play in commander and even more so than Necro. If you want to play cedh, sure, but Arena almost always wins out.
Liliana vess let's u discard a card in mono black u better have some form of reanimation. And that's why she needed to be more then a mention
Idk dude, I'm a lifetime mono black player and edh lover. You're missing a bunch of cards.
Also I don't think Mickey works with triskelly. Putting a +1 counter is completely separate from putting a -1 counter. They don't cancel out. Remember I said "I don't think", I could be wrong.
And Gary may not be number one but it's def top three. I've won more games with that card than any other card.
Remove counter to ping an enemy. Remove 2 to ping itself. It dies and comes back with an extra counter. remove 2 to ping an enemy, remove 2 to ping itself. Rinse repeat. that's the combo. and gary is good but depending on your meta the tutor's will always be the best cards in your deck.
Sam Levon Gary is really good but in black there are lot of better cards, necropotence is definitely top 3-2, demonic tutor is number 1 without a doubt. Gary is, I think, worse than : necropotence, demonic tutor, toxic deluge, vampiric tutor, and many others
Sam Levon: I'm a lifetime mono black player and edh lover.
Also Sam Levon: I don't think Mickey works with triskelly.
Man, you really made me laugh.
Gary #1
jorden hale never, Gary is worse than necropotence, phyrexian arena or others
Dark Ritual? Phyrexian Obliterator? Gary?
Chris Zablocki Gary is way worse than sidisi, necropotence, any tutor and many others
Chris Zablocki it is still good
Chris Zablocki dark ritual is great but in edh that’s not optimal
Gate to phyxeria?...black artifact removal anyone be interested in that?
Yes, it is always Demonic Tutor
Make an anti decktek!
9. walking ballista?
The problem with Walking Ballista is its a 0/0 without Mikeaus but with him its a 1/1 so if you remove the +1/+1 counter from it, its still on the battlefield
Well enough to commit suicide but not even to win the game on the spot. But! With a certain Blood Artist, yes
Frédéric Gosselin no it can win
@@lunatik_8929 Well, it can win but you need more then just Ballista with Mikaeus to do that.
phyrexian arena is much worse than necropotence
This must not have been including banned cards because if it had, I’m pretty sure we all know what would have been #1
If all of your deck makes you lose life every turn your edh life is going to fall like a rock
What?
Playing With Power just did a storm deck with K'irrk, that nothing but paying life and can win around turn 5.
W1cked Wonder that proves you were a beginner when you send this post, because life is a ressource