The one thing that I always do before we leave the campsite is go up on the roof with a broom to sweep any debris off the slide out roof and I can say that there is almost always something, that’s why I’m so passionate about ladders being a standard feature on RVs😕
Easier to use a cordless (or electric) small lightweight leaf blower (also great as a quick camp firestarter). On rainy days, broom is better on roof, but most dry days a quick blow off is so much quicker.
Mr. Nerd, you definitely deserve a pay raise. I follow a few Rv UA-camrs and not any other one goes into the thorough detail in their videos. Kudos to you!
When I bought my camper, I knew nothing about slides. I have subsequently learned a lot about them. I thank my guardian angel that I bought one WITHOUT a slide.
We've had 3 different travel trailers since 2004, all with super slides and always eat in the slide at the dinette with the slide closed while traveling. That's 19 years of no issues. That said I weigh 180 and wife is 130 . There must be some amount of weight it will hold otherwise are you telling me you also can't store anything under the dinette booth seats, behind theater seats, in the fridge?????🤔 180 + 130 = 310 + 100 Miscellaneous= 410. Apparently 410 is OK. Greg in Michigan Ps I also drank out of a green garden hose as a kid and I think I'm okay........😲 I think.
Good points. For slides that use the Schwintek system there is more than leaking seals to be concerned about by partially extending or retracting them. Schwintek slides synchronize the motors only when fully retracted or extended. By stopping the slide in between you can lose synchronization and end up with an uneven slide. If bad enough this can prevent the slide from going in or out and require the manual process of disconnecting the motors and pushing the slide in from the outside until it can be repaired.
ALWAYS run a Schwintek slide in one continuous motion to its full-open or full-closed position. When it hits its full-whichever position, continue to hold the operating switch for about 3 seconds AFTER the slide stops moving and you've heard the motors stop. This allows the motors to re-synchronize themselves which helps keep the slide from getting mis-aligned.
@@Berrypancakes229 Leaks are almost always a deal problem. If you don't run the slide all the way in/out (any slide, not just Schwintek), the seal may kind of curl, creating an easy entry for water. If you do have a leak, check your seals. Most can be adjusted slightly. And keep them lubricated! Seal lube is cheap compared to needing a seal replaced.
Josh..i have to thank you for all the information you have empowered me with..I recently had a salesman at Camping World tell me i can use the slide even when its in..i laughed and asked him if he was paying the bill when it broke.. Thanks to you I nailed him to the wall
This video saved me money! I was thinking about getting the slide supports cuz im a newbie and full-time in my trailer but didnt even think about the rv moving and the slide staying still. All your videos are helping me a lot
I gotta say I am even more happy I insisted on a camp trailer WITHOUT a slide out. Problems looking for a place to happen. My wife and myself (and occasional grandkids) have more than enough room without one. Heartland Mallard Pathfinder PB17. Thanks Nerd!
Lubricants on the Schwintek slides can be a contentious subject. I would not lubricate the worm gear track as that can attract debris that can foul up the cog that rides in them. I would squirt some PTFE lubricant behind the seal at the top and bottom where the blocks ride on the track. You’ve got dissimilar materials rubbing on each other (plastic, brass, aluminum) and they need a light film to keep everything moving. LCI doesn’t recommend lubricants but I know quite a few RV techs who have replaced H tracks and drive systems due to no lubricant over the years. Slide seal lubricants are great to use. I use CRC brand. YMMV
100% Agreed with this statement! I was having some significant issues with my Schwintek slide not wanting to extend or retract. I used PTFE lubricant (at the advisement of My Rv Works, Inc. video) and now my slide works great. I was REALLY getting frustrated with the slide prior to this and brought it to the dealer for repair (they didn't fix it after months in the shop). So, my advice to Schwintek slide owners is if you are getting some binding or uneven extension/retraction of the slide, use the lubricant in the tracks as Rick Goodman has stated. Made all the world of difference and it enabled me to once again appreciate the extra room the slide provides in our trailer without having to always be worried about whether it will work properly. I also use the CRC brand.
At the end of the camping season, be sure to remove heavy items stored underneath the dinette seats. The additional weight of those cast iron pans and Dutch oven could cause some deflection.
Hey, I’ll never claim to be an authority or expert or anything like that. I always encourage people to get info from multiple sources. I do hope I’m able to help people more often than not.
For anyone wanting to buy an Rv read your contract carefully the manufacturer of the Rv wants you to give up your rights to sue if they sell you a defective unit. Also check your roof before you sign the contract Keystone rv will tell you a poorly installed membrane with blisters all over it is acceptable to them. When all Rv techs will tell you air bubbles are signs off the roof not glued down properly.
While I'm not so passionate that I would die on a hill, I do lubricate the cable system on my trailer. A little white lithium grease on the pulleys, seems to help, and the lithium lubricant doesn't attract dirt and debris.
Slide use - We have a 2021 Rockwood Mini-Lite 2516S. Definitely agree with you on the front slide - do not use. No interior edge support. However, the rear bed slide has wheels on the inside edge which gives support to that side. As a matter of fact, after 2 years of use, there are small floor indents where the wheels sit when the slide is retracted. A poster in the FB group for this model reached out to Rockwood asking if the bed can be used when retracted. The response was yes. A photo of the text exchange was included in the post. Slide Toppers - Have had on all three trailers. Have zero interest climbing on the roof every time we move which on a long trip can be every 2-3 days. Have found that they hold up well in high winds especially out west. Putting seal lubricant on the top seal can be challenging, but easily solved with a rag attached to a yard stick.
I would be happy to pay extra for a towable RV that the manufacturer has built and tested and warranted the slideout for use in the closed position like a motorized RV. Im sure I'm not the only one that feels this way. Please Josh pass this thought on to the manufacturers. Thanks again for your insights!
2 things I always do when I pull up to my site: 1. Check for power at the post with a voltage tester, and 2. Walk the site, measure out from obstacles (to slide out when extended - mine is 36" on driver side) and place orange cones so I know how to position rv and that the slideout will not hit said obstacles when I slide it out.
Thank you so much for this video Josh! I thought about stealth camping in a travel trailer with the slide closed thinking it was fully supported. Now I know what disaster i could have caused.
Your comment to make sure the slide is clear of debris or items is very smart. In our last Class A we ended up with a water bottle jammed under the corner edge of the slide on the inside. pulled the wood molding right off the bottom of the slide. Slides stand, no way. I confirmed that with Newmar and they said absolutely not, warranty voided.
Way to go. This is a great video. Not only for taking the fear out of having a slide, but explaining the difference and how to use or not use the slides. Whether you know them all or not, it is always good to be reminded of this information. We just purchased a new 5th wheel that has both the rack n pinion and a schwintek. So thank you. I also love that you talk about lubrication for the slides and seals. You might want to do on where you or the tech guys actually use the product for those of us who are still fairly new. It’s good to have a visual perspective. Keep them coming. Thanks for all you do.
You are appreciated! Great info. I've used 3in1 slide spray and had great results with it. I also think all trailers with slides need to have a ladder - there's always debris on the slide top. Install slide toppers if you can, they help!
Thank you for this. I think I have moved to the no slide camp based on this video. Glad I learned this stuff before buying something. You are the best.
So I bought a new to me 5th wheel from Bish's last fall and it had a slideout. My previous toy hauler did not have one. I asked the guy who did the walk-through with me if I could use the slideout when it was retracted, because I had watched UA-cams that said not to and he said yes. I just watched your UA-cam and now, along with some other issues I am really having some doubts about that dealership. I will be taking my trailer to a different Bish's for repairs. One of which is to reset the slideout as it is slightly crooked. Large gap in the seal on the upper left corner and too tight on the upper right corner. Fortunately, a fellow camper told me I should periodically check that the slideout seals were tight and even all around so water, bugs, etc. could not get in. Something that wasn't checked at the dealership. Thank you for your videos. I have learned a lot watching you.
We had a cable system slide for 16 years, (rear queen bed slide) Never Leaked, but tried of cleaning the slide roof of leaves, sticks and caterpillar poo before we brought it in, my parents have always had slides in travel trailers & 5ther's (full timers), different manufacturers, they all Leaked, In one way or another, that's why the wife and I are searching for the perfect "No Slide" travel trailer, great video Josh, always Appreciated.
I wish I bought from you, I bought from Camping World Over the phone, drove 5 hours To get it the problems were. Wanted full propane tanks thrown in. They filled tanks only A quarter, so when we slept in the RV at the town ran out of Heat when it was snowing out. I asked about the tires they said A little worn they were nearly bald. I bought all new tires including spare as that was bad. On the Tech walk through if they gave written instructions Would been better as was tired Then would have info for later. They strip the trailer of high options, so they can sell it to you as accessories like Max Fans with remote. Then they Hit me up for the anti sway bars After purchasing and hook up Charge. This should be presented up front as must have included with purchase. You definitely are straight up Honest, not like camping world.
I’m so glad you said NOT to lubricant the Schwintech system just as Lippert says not to lubricate. You are on top of your game. Thanks Josh, we’ve been watching you for years.
In my area that I am located, there was a camper with a slide out that the guy sold because it ended up getting tipped over and the slide out basically retracted back in. He thought that it broke he didn’t break the gears had to be replaced later on because they cracked no leaks, and as long as you replace the gaskets, it will never leak or give you any problems it doesn’t take rocket science to have common sense. Just make sure you take care of it don’t have the mentality of its disposable just like all cars that’s the only thing I gotta say.
I'm one of those folks who has been very leery about getting a unit with slides. However, every once in a while a "slidey" unit comes along that tempts me. @JoshtheRVNerd -- what you presented in this video covers SO MUCH info about them that I did not know. Bottom line: This has reinforced my inclination to avoid getting a unit with slides. Great job! Thank you SO MUCH!
I am disabled and can't get on the roof of my motorhome. The tip about using a cell phone and selfie stick to check slideout tops is a great idea for me. Thanks to you and thanks to the guy who told you about it. God bless. Ken
Thanks for the info, it does make sense about the slides being made differently for the towable and motorized. But for us we have not had a problem with using ours closed however it is a Lance TT and It does not move like the one shown , it is also built differently..
Topic suggestion: When buying a used RV from a private party, how does getting that RV serviced work (pros & cons)? In other words, will your local dealer service your RV? Will they give you less priority if you didn't purchase it with them? Will they honor extended service contracts? Are you better off hiring a mobile tech (depending on the issue, of course)? What are other things to consider on this topic when buying from a private party vs dealer. Thanks, Glen - Boise, ID
Not sure about Bish, but our local dealer here in Virginia will NOT honor any warranty other than to the original buyer. Very NOT cool. Not transferable.
Thanks for the video. I am always learing. Bought a 2022 coleman in August of 2022. Our last trip of 2022 was at the oregon coast. It was a pretty stormy trip. When we got home we had water all over the floor and the left side bed and cabinetry. When we packed up and left our slide pulled in probably two handfuls of pine needles. All along the top seal we trapped needles between the slide roof and seal, which allowed quite a lot of rain water to flow right in. We now carry a little gaint ladder and check and clear the slide roof prior to retraction.
Another great video. We bought our first RV this past fall. Just realized our new Jayco Eagle 5th wheel has all three different types of slide mechanisms. I knew you had to periodically lube the seals but did not know that about the rack and pinion slide mechanisms. Thanks
I’m so grateful for this video! From the selfie stick hack to the maintenance tips. I understood to look look for cracks in the seals but didn’t know there was a product I could use to keep it pliable. So thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. God bless!
I’ve watched, researched, and learned about RVs for years. Your “Good to Know” segments cover things I’ve never heard before. Thank You! RVing is our dream about to be realized! 🙂🙏🏼
Folks, like Josh said, don't use the slide-outs when retracted. Before we downsized to our fifth wheel, we had a Tiffin Allegro. We always used the slide-out when retracted because it was made that way. It had additional rollers along the inside edge that supported it in the retracted position. We found out the hard way that our fifth wheel cannot be used with the slide retracted. We were so used to our old motor home that we just "assumed" that the slide in our new RV could be used just the same. As soon as I sat down I knew something wasn't right. The whole thing dipped down on the inside. Now I stuff a 2x4 under the slide whenever I want to use it while it's retracted. Worked the treat!
Good advice. I spray my slide seals to condition them and always make sure they are flushed to slide. My have twisted a bit but I fixed it before it was damaged.
I do not ever want an RV that doesn't have opposing slides and a bedroom slide. Our previous RV had two types, and our new Jayco Eagle 5th wheel we bought last week has all 3 types. We have never had any issues, but we are cautious to make sure we take care of them appropriately. (Well one time that we had to manually resynchronize the motors on the Schwyntech, but not an issue that required repairs) I honestly had never heard of not sitting in a recliner with the slide closed. Of course, I guess I only did that when cleaning out the previous one to trade in. Glad I learned this! My husband always uses a "leaf blower" to quickly blow off the slides. We have it to blow off our site when setting up anyway. It is a small lightweight one, therefore not much of an effect on weight!. Thanks for the more helpful information!!!
Do not use on bottom of slide out. Nylon corners need Teflon. I used the 3in1 and my slide started jumping and screaming. I had to clean it with rubbing alcohol and then use Teflon spray to correct.
I have a travel trailer with a Schwintek slide. I have found it beneficial to lubricate the rollers under the slide with Boeshield T-9 about twice a year. The entire slide seems to roll more steady after a quick shot.
Same here. I use dry lubricant spray on my rails and it seems to go much better as well. 3 years in and slide motors are still good. Will continue spraying them.
Keep in mind that newer Schwintek slide mechanisms ARE NOT suppose to have any lubricant on them. They are self lubricating and can deteriorate if you add lubricant to them.
Thank you for the information about not using the slide out when it is in. Confirmed it with the manufacture and it could pull the dinette away from the wall. Our sales person used the fact that you could use it when in as a selling point. Great information from you as always!
I have a slide out. I don’t think I would ever want one without it. I have a rack and pinion, and it has never failed me, however, I do all of the tips that nerd man tells me to.! 😅
We have a rack and pinion slide out. Left the slide out fully extended for 3 months so family could stay in it. Well, turns out the side bottom edges have some water damage where the slide skis were attached. I believe it was a manufacturing defect since the edge of subfloor was exposed with carpet strands showing between that screwed on metal trim and slide ski. There was a gap that was NOT sealed. Now we have some rotting subfloor about 1 - 2 inches in, but I think we caught the problem in time so we don’t need to replace subfloor, but….. this shouldn’t have happened at all. I’ve got a 2018 Jayco Whitehawk 24mbh so it’s too late for a manufacturer warranty to fix
Josh, YOU are the BEST !!!!! ... I watch all of your videos. They are always packed with GREAT information. Slides in Class A are manufactured to be used when closed. I am sure this adds weight and additional cost to make it. The chairs in our slides have seat belts for people to secure themselves when the vehicle is moving down the road.
As for the rubber seals I use 303 sealant and protector. Put in a spray bottle and spray the seals. I also have sheintek system and DO lubricate the tracks. I use a dry lubricant though so it does not attract dirt. 5 years and no problems (yet)
I avoided slides this last time because of weight. I lived in a dual slide trailer beach side for two years. Wash, lube and cycle the system every six months and all was well.
This week end I pick my first travel trailer with a slide. My previous travel trailers did not have a slide. My wife wanted a slide I did not. My opinion is something that will cost a lot to repair. 😮
Slide topper awning will solve things getting on your slideout roof. Standard on some model rvs. Ive been the industry since slideouts became almost standard, about 26 years now
I think it's generational sometimes I've done a couple of e-bike reviews which is just me talking to a camera in public places. It LOOKS weird Older people noticing me look confused or scoff A younger guy saw me and goes "Are you blogging?! Nice!"
May seem extreme, but I have a small electric leaf blower I use with a lightweight collapsable ladder. Quick and easy to go up and blow debri and water off the slide. No water on top that just may get in under the squeegee sweep on the seal as the slide is retracted. Also, it can blow debri off the main roof if excessive!
Without reading all the comments, I’ll ask my question talking about weight and using a slide when it’s retracted which does make sense. What about the slide that has the kitchen in it but all the kitchen load that’s in there we’re loaded refrigerator pots and pans. utensils in the drawers. Do all these things need to be unloaded? Hopefully you get to this I get time I’ll try to read through all the comments more than likely someone else has already commented about this Eric thank you for your channel. I enjoy it. I enjoy your reviews. I enjoy your practice. Thank you very much Gary.
Personal experience. Rv owner for years. Slides are nice for the room BUT, I have had two fail, left me stranded one time, one leak cause massive damage, weight is massive. What it did was make me rethink how many slides do I want to deal with and the type of slide. I'm not a fan of the Vander slide (duo motor sync) that was the one that left me stranded. The other I could at least use a drill to manually pull it in.
Josh the educator, thank you brother, great job I know a few. People who need that lub can, but if you buy an RV, you best get to know that unit, inside and out if not your investment will turn to shit real fast
As a technician myself, in a shop and mobile. I used to hate working on the cable system, and I was able to have one of BAL instructors show us how to work on their system, and it is one of the easiest systems to work on. The oil on top of the slide was because they were getting their motors from china, and the oil was very thin. They have changed that. A lot of the problems with the cable slides I get are manufacturer mistakes during the installation.
I actually found a Chapstick under my kitchen slide from my daughter, was not happy that it found it's way under there and was crushed under the slide. I'm sure it is still there too this day as we traded in that trailer and oops we forgot to mention it when we traded it in. Didn't do any damage to anything but the Chapstick so we weren't concerned. The only time you might want to use slide jacks is when you are on a completely solid cement surface that's not going to move at all and you are staying long term. If you are on gravel or dirt or grass I wouldn't even entertain looking at slide jacks. I have jacks for my toy hauler but those are for the lift gate ramp to support us when we use it as a patio which is very much recommended because the ramp is not designed to hold all that weight suspended in the air by 2 cables and a hinge.
Recently I was camping for 3 weeks and at the end I made sure to check before the top of the slide before putting it in because each day and night we were hearing acorns drop on top. The only way for me to see and clear the top was to pull up next to the slide and stand on top of the bed of the truck.
This just made me go from a jayco 24bh to a 27bh with an extra door up front. So im guessing storing stuff on seats during transport is the same "no" 👍🏼
Ours like many others has a pantry and refrigerator in the slide. We load these up and the weight is there when the slide is in or out and in between. If we are not supposed to occupy the slide while it is in because of the weight It basically means we can not put anything in the frig or pantry until the slide is fully out.
My pleasure and congratulations! Mind dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review for the helping hand by chance? I'd sure appreciate it!
Thanks for the Info! I was wondering about those slide Jack stands! You answered my questions! I appreciate your videos and knowledge you pass along! It’s appreciated!
I bought my WhiteHawk from General RV, biggest mistake I ever made. Would like to trade it in and get a new travel trailer and I just may come to Bish’s just because you seem to actually give a shit. Thanks Josh!
Yeah thanks to my friend Joshua Sheehan at Gander Flight for that one. Make sure you check his channe(s). He’s a full timer with a lot of tips and insights
We bought a new 2024 Forest Fiver Salem Platinum 27 RK. We have a rack & pinion super slide. It said one of the advantage was their triple seal slide out. I tried to see how that worked but really didn’t find anything on UA-cam that 3xplzins it. Anyway I appreciate this video and I’ll be purchasing the 2 products you mentioned. Thanks Josh! ❤
@@JoshtheRVNerd I get it now 😂😂 It’s hard getting old. Our old rv was a 2008 Grreywolf 31z. Things have changed sooooo much since then. My husband enjoys the automatic hitch, quick drop stabilizer jacks, outdoor beer fridge as he calls it & the brakes on the camper are much improved. I enjoy the condo type feel on the inside. Perfect for our lake! I wanted the Salem 27View, but she’s a heavy girl, so I picked something very similar in a lighter weight. 💜👍🙏 Your videos have helped me tremendously, so thank you. 💙
Great vid Josh. Also thanks for the heads up last week on the new season of The Rightest Gemstones. Buy the way you are mentioned on many other peoples rv vids.
This is another very informative, excellent video Josh! I've never owned a slider and it makes total sense as you explained it but never thought about how these arent designed to be rigid when closed. This will be such helpful info to know for my next purchase.
with a rack and pinion slide you need a dry lubricant for the gear rail oil lube will attract dirt and cause the rail to bind up and may ruin gears and gear track.
Our new 2022 Wildwood slide and floor looked fine on our walkthrough. They delivered it to our site, and when the delivery driver left, I ran it out to begin putting our stuff inside. To our horror, there was a 10 inch tear in the linoleum flooring in front of the slide. The repair guy said it was from a sofa screw that was driven too far into the slide floor at the factory. After seeing this, I wonder if the dealership employees sat on, or walked on the closed slide when they were fixing the other 21 issues we found on the walk through. After all, the tear wasn't there when we saw it at the dealer.
Darn sofa screws just pulled out of the carpet and floor not to pleased so I left them out. At least it’s easier to get anything that slips through the end cushions to the floor
while I'm still waiting for the Brinkley TT, I will be looking at getting the Vroom RV slide system installed if they have any other type of slide mechanism.
The one thing that I always do before we leave the campsite is go up on the roof with a broom to sweep any debris off the slide out roof and I can say that there is almost always something, that’s why I’m so passionate about ladders being a standard feature on RVs😕
It’s so smart and safer for fellow drivers if there was something like a stick up there
And that's why I only looked at trailers with a permanently attached ladder.
Easier to use a cordless (or electric) small lightweight leaf blower (also great as a quick camp firestarter). On rainy days, broom is better on roof, but most dry days a quick blow off is so much quicker.
@@Gina-ew7nfExactly what I use, a small battery operated blower.
@@Gina-ew7nf Great idea, as long as you have a ladder to get on the roof👍
Mr. Nerd, you definitely deserve a pay raise. I follow a few Rv UA-camrs and not any other one goes into the thorough detail in their videos. Kudos to you!
Wow, thanks!
When I bought my camper, I knew nothing about slides. I have subsequently learned a lot about them. I thank my guardian angel that I bought one WITHOUT a slide.
Glad it’s working well for you
Another great video Uncle Josh. We almost never get important info like this for our "homes on wheels". A real service to the RV community.
Ty 🙏🏻
Great video (and jokes 😂)! Thank you
I was just about to buy some slide out jacks, you have now changed my mind, & I totally understand why I shouldn't use them now. THANKS!!!
I stand by it. I don’t think they’re a great idea
I was also, thanks
We've had 3 different travel trailers since 2004, all with super slides and always eat in the slide at the dinette with the slide closed while traveling. That's 19 years of no issues. That said I weigh 180 and wife is 130 .
There must be some amount of weight it will hold otherwise are you telling me you also can't store anything under the dinette booth seats, behind theater seats, in the fridge?????🤔
180 + 130 = 310 + 100 Miscellaneous= 410.
Apparently 410 is OK.
Greg in Michigan
Ps I also drank out of a green garden hose as a kid and I think I'm okay........😲 I think.
I think many slides are actually capable
But they’re not tested
And if the mfg doesn’t guarantee for it.. then how can _anyone?_
I think many slides are actually capable
But they’re not tested
And if the mfg doesn’t guarantee for it.. then how can _anyone?_
Good points.
For slides that use the Schwintek system there is more than leaking seals to be concerned about by partially extending or retracting them. Schwintek slides synchronize the motors only when fully retracted or extended. By stopping the slide in between you can lose synchronization and end up with an uneven slide. If bad enough this can prevent the slide from going in or out and require the manual process of disconnecting the motors and pushing the slide in from the outside until it can be repaired.
Disconnecting the motors could be impossible without expertise too. I won’t be buying another schwintek equipped RV.
ALWAYS run a Schwintek slide in one continuous motion to its full-open or full-closed position. When it hits its full-whichever position, continue to hold the operating switch for about 3 seconds AFTER the slide stops moving and you've heard the motors stop. This allows the motors to re-synchronize themselves which helps keep the slide from getting mis-aligned.
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@@dogrsqrhow do you prevent from leaks?
@@Berrypancakes229 Leaks are almost always a deal problem. If you don't run the slide all the way in/out (any slide, not just Schwintek), the seal may kind of curl, creating an easy entry for water.
If you do have a leak, check your seals. Most can be adjusted slightly.
And keep them lubricated! Seal lube is cheap compared to needing a seal replaced.
Josh..i have to thank you for all the information you have empowered me with..I recently had a salesman at Camping World tell me i can use the slide even when its in..i laughed and asked him if he was paying the bill when it broke.. Thanks to you I nailed him to the wall
Hahaha
This video saved me money! I was thinking about getting the slide supports cuz im a newbie and full-time in my trailer but didnt even think about the rv moving and the slide staying still. All your videos are helping me a lot
Glad it was helpful! Mind dropping me a review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review by chance? It'll still cost you nothing lol :)
I gotta say I am even more happy I insisted on a camp trailer WITHOUT a slide out. Problems looking for a place to happen. My wife and myself (and occasional grandkids) have more than enough room without one. Heartland Mallard Pathfinder PB17.
Thanks Nerd!
Lubricants on the Schwintek slides can be a contentious subject. I would not lubricate the worm gear track as that can attract debris that can foul up the cog that rides in them. I would squirt some PTFE lubricant behind the seal at the top and bottom where the blocks ride on the track. You’ve got dissimilar materials rubbing on each other (plastic, brass, aluminum) and they need a light film to keep everything moving. LCI doesn’t recommend lubricants but I know quite a few RV techs who have replaced H tracks and drive systems due to no lubricant over the years. Slide seal lubricants are great to use. I use CRC brand. YMMV
100% Agreed with this statement! I was having some significant issues with my Schwintek slide not wanting to extend or retract. I used PTFE lubricant (at the advisement of My Rv Works, Inc. video) and now my slide works great. I was REALLY getting frustrated with the slide prior to this and brought it to the dealer for repair (they didn't fix it after months in the shop). So, my advice to Schwintek slide owners is if you are getting some binding or uneven extension/retraction of the slide, use the lubricant in the tracks as Rick Goodman has stated. Made all the world of difference and it enabled me to once again appreciate the extra room the slide provides in our trailer without having to always be worried about whether it will work properly. I also use the CRC brand.
@@peekay17822 can you please specify the name of the lubricant you use.
@@Berrypancakes229
ua-cam.com/video/A0my90W3AKM/v-deo.htmlsi=mUS2mLGweIkoQxl_
@@Berrypancakes229Right? What on earth is PTFE & CRC? Many of us are newbies.
@@peekay17822 where did you find this product and what the name of it?
At the end of the camping season, be sure to remove heavy items stored underneath the dinette seats. The additional weight of those cast iron pans and Dutch oven could cause some deflection.
With so many differing opinions on social media about these issues, it's good to have a professional like you, Josh, clear things up. Thanks!
Hey, I’ll never claim to be an authority or expert or anything like that. I always encourage people to get info from multiple sources. I do hope I’m able to help people more often than not.
For anyone wanting to buy an Rv read your contract carefully the manufacturer of the Rv wants you to give up your rights to sue if they sell you a defective unit. Also check your roof before you sign the contract Keystone rv will tell you a poorly installed membrane with blisters all over it is acceptable to them. When all Rv techs will tell you air bubbles are signs off the roof not glued down properly.
I like the 3-in-1 brand of RV rubber seal and window trim products.
Same. I like easy
While I'm not so passionate that I would die on a hill, I do lubricate the cable system on my trailer. A little white lithium grease on the pulleys, seems to help, and the lithium lubricant doesn't attract dirt and debris.
Slide use - We have a 2021 Rockwood Mini-Lite 2516S. Definitely agree with you on the front slide - do not use. No interior edge support. However, the rear bed slide has wheels on the inside edge which gives support to that side. As a matter of fact, after 2 years of use, there are small floor indents where the wheels sit when the slide is retracted. A poster in the FB group for this model reached out to Rockwood asking if the bed can be used when retracted. The response was yes. A photo of the text exchange was included in the post.
Slide Toppers - Have had on all three trailers. Have zero interest climbing on the roof every time we move which on a long trip can be every 2-3 days. Have found that they hold up well in high winds especially out west. Putting seal lubricant on the top seal can be challenging, but easily solved with a rag attached to a yard stick.
I think there are actually a lot of slides that COULD be used but mfgs typically aren't testing for it
TY for the slide awning intel! :)
I would be happy to pay extra for a towable RV that the manufacturer has built and tested and warranted the slideout for use in the closed position like a motorized RV. Im sure I'm not the only one that feels this way. Please Josh pass this thought on to the manufacturers. Thanks again for your insights!
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2 things I always do when I pull up to my site: 1. Check for power at the post with a voltage tester, and 2. Walk the site, measure out from obstacles (to slide out when extended - mine is 36" on driver side) and place orange cones so I know how to position rv and that the slideout will not hit said obstacles when I slide it out.
Voltage tester is such a good idea
Open grounds.. hot skin rvs.. scary stuff
Thank you so much for this video Josh! I thought about stealth camping in a travel trailer with the slide closed thinking it was fully supported. Now I know what disaster i could have caused.
@ 13:40 Uncle Gary actually switched cans and set you up...................... I have learned a lot here ... thanks
Your comment to make sure the slide is clear of debris or items is very smart. In our last Class A we ended up with a water bottle jammed under the corner edge of the slide on the inside. pulled the wood molding right off the bottom of the slide. Slides stand, no way. I confirmed that with Newmar and they said absolutely not, warranty voided.
Way to go. This is a great video. Not only for taking the fear out of having a slide, but explaining the difference and how to use or not use the slides. Whether you know them all or not, it is always good to be reminded of this information. We just purchased a new 5th wheel that has both the rack n pinion and a schwintek. So thank you. I also love that you talk about lubrication for the slides and seals. You might want to do on where you or the tech guys actually use the product for those of us who are still fairly new. It’s good to have a visual perspective. Keep them coming. Thanks for all you do.
You are appreciated! Great info. I've used 3in1 slide spray and had great results with it. I also think all trailers with slides need to have a ladder - there's always debris on the slide top. Install slide toppers if you can, they help!
Thank you for this. I think I have moved to the no slide camp based on this video. Glad I learned this stuff before buying something. You are the best.
Wow! No one told us not to sit on / use the slide out when it is in the “CLOSED” position. THANK YOU! Keep up the great work!
I try!
Right? Now I wonder if that’s the reason one of the two motors cuts out once in a blue moon
You hit the nail on the head! We are newbie’s and badly want a slide out but are petrified by all the bad feedback. Thank you for helping 😁
We’re not newbie’s and been camping for years and have to have at least one slide in the seating area. We like slides.
Stay away they are all the same. They do all the above mentioned no matter what you do or the amount of money you spend on the trailer.
So I bought a new to me 5th wheel from Bish's last fall and it had a slideout. My previous toy hauler did not have one. I asked the guy who did the walk-through with me if I could use the slideout when it was retracted, because I had watched UA-cams that said not to and he said yes. I just watched your UA-cam and now, along with some other issues I am really having some doubts about that dealership. I will be taking my trailer to a different Bish's for repairs. One of which is to reset the slideout as it is slightly crooked. Large gap in the seal on the upper left corner and too tight on the upper right corner. Fortunately, a fellow camper told me I should periodically check that the slideout seals were tight and even all around so water, bugs, etc. could not get in. Something that wasn't checked at the dealership. Thank you for your videos. I have learned a lot watching you.
Yeah unless the mfg specifically says it’s ok I try to avoid doing it
We had a cable system slide for 16 years, (rear queen bed slide) Never Leaked, but tried of cleaning the slide roof of leaves, sticks and caterpillar poo before we brought it in, my parents have always had slides in travel trailers & 5ther's (full timers), different manufacturers, they all Leaked, In one way or another, that's why the wife and I are searching for the perfect "No Slide" travel trailer, great video Josh, always Appreciated.
My pleasure. TY for sharing
I wish I bought from you, I bought from Camping World
Over the phone, drove 5 hours
To get it the problems were.
Wanted full propane tanks thrown in. They filled tanks only
A quarter, so when we slept in the RV at the town ran out of
Heat when it was snowing out.
I asked about the tires they said
A little worn they were nearly bald. I bought all new tires including spare as that was bad.
On the Tech walk through if they gave written instructions
Would been better as was tired
Then would have info for later.
They strip the trailer of high options, so they can sell it to you as accessories like Max Fans with remote. Then they
Hit me up for the anti sway bars
After purchasing and hook up
Charge. This should be presented up front as must have included with purchase.
You definitely are straight up
Honest, not like camping world.
I’m not perfect and won’t claim to get it all right. But I do try. Ty man
I heard that lemon pledge is recommended for spraying on the rubber slide seals. Cheap and does a great job keeping the seals pliable and protected
I’m so glad you said NOT to lubricant the Schwintech system just as Lippert says not to lubricate.
You are on top of your game.
Thanks Josh, we’ve been watching you for years.
I try. I certainly don't get it all right but I try
In my area that I am located, there was a camper with a slide out that the guy sold because it ended up getting tipped over and the slide out basically retracted back in. He thought that it broke he didn’t break the gears had to be replaced later on because they cracked no leaks, and as long as you replace the gaskets, it will never leak or give you any problems it doesn’t take rocket science to have common sense. Just make sure you take care of it don’t have the mentality of its disposable just like all cars that’s the only thing I gotta say.
I'm one of those folks who has been very leery about getting a unit with slides. However, every once in a while a "slidey" unit comes along that tempts me. @JoshtheRVNerd -- what you presented in this video covers SO MUCH info about them that I did not know. Bottom line: This has reinforced my inclination to avoid getting a unit with slides. Great job! Thank you SO MUCH!
take a couple looks in to opposing living room slides. the wide open area is great.
I am disabled and can't get on the roof of my motorhome. The tip about using a cell phone and selfie stick to check slideout tops is a great idea for me. Thanks to you and thanks to the guy who told you about it. God bless. Ken
he has a lot more helpful videos like that as well
Where to find video link?
Brilliant! Thanks for drawing my attention to that!
Thanks for the info, it does make sense about the slides being made differently for the towable and motorized. But for us we have not had a problem with using ours closed however it is a Lance TT and It does not move like the one shown , it is also built differently..
Topic suggestion:
When buying a used RV from a private party, how does getting that RV serviced work (pros & cons)? In other words, will your local dealer service your RV? Will they give you less priority if you didn't purchase it with them? Will they honor extended service contracts? Are you better off hiring a mobile tech (depending on the issue, of course)? What are other things to consider on this topic when buying from a private party vs dealer. Thanks, Glen - Boise, ID
Great idea. Ty
Not sure about Bish, but our local dealer here in Virginia will NOT honor any warranty other than to the original buyer. Very NOT cool. Not transferable.
Thanks so much for this video! No one has ever mentioned using seal conditioner. We’re going to do that asap!
Glad it was helpful!
Wish manufacturers would get creative with large no slide floor plans, 102” wide bodies and tall ceilings. 😊
Same
Thanks for the video. I am always learing.
Bought a 2022 coleman in August of 2022. Our last trip of 2022 was at the oregon coast. It was a pretty stormy trip. When we got home we had water all over the floor and the left side bed and cabinetry. When we packed up and left our slide pulled in probably two handfuls of pine needles. All along the top seal we trapped needles between the slide roof and seal, which allowed quite a lot of rain water to flow right in.
We now carry a little gaint ladder and check and clear the slide roof prior to retraction.
ouch. Live and learn i suppose
Another great video. We bought our first RV this past fall. Just realized our new Jayco Eagle 5th wheel has all three different types of slide mechanisms. I knew you had to periodically lube the seals but did not know that about the rack and pinion slide mechanisms. Thanks
Glad to be of service! Mind dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review for the helping hand?
I’m so grateful for this video! From the selfie stick hack to the maintenance tips. I understood to look look for cracks in the seals but didn’t know there was a product I could use to keep it pliable. So thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. God bless!
Glad it was helpful!
I like the 3-in-One RV products. They have a permanent straw for the spray.
Ty
The flex on that slide floor was astonishing. My 99 slide box doesn't move at all standing on it. I couldn't believe what you showed. Mind blown.
I’ve watched, researched, and learned about RVs for years. Your “Good to Know” segments cover things I’ve never heard before. Thank You! RVing is our dream about to be realized! 🙂🙏🏼
Glad to be of service!
Folks, like Josh said, don't use the slide-outs when retracted. Before we downsized to our fifth wheel, we had a Tiffin Allegro. We always used the slide-out when retracted because it was made that way. It had additional rollers along the inside edge that supported it in the retracted position. We found out the hard way that our fifth wheel cannot be used with the slide retracted. We were so used to our old motor home that we just "assumed" that the slide in our new RV could be used just the same. As soon as I sat down I knew something wasn't right. The whole thing dipped down on the inside. Now I stuff a 2x4 under the slide whenever I want to use it while it's retracted. Worked the treat!
Using motorhome slides retracted is different. Thought I mentioned that ..
@@JoshtheRVNerd Yup, ya' did. I was just reinforcing your statement by giving a real world example, 'cause "You da man"!
@@Tom-In-Ga ah good. Thought I forgot!
Good advice. I spray my slide seals to condition them and always make sure they are flushed to slide. My have twisted a bit but I fixed it before it was damaged.
I hit the LIKE button cause Josh is the only RV NERD.
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I do not ever want an RV that doesn't have opposing slides and a bedroom slide. Our previous RV had two types, and our new Jayco Eagle 5th wheel we bought last week has all 3 types. We have never had any issues, but we are cautious to make sure we take care of them appropriately. (Well one time that we had to manually resynchronize the motors on the Schwyntech, but not an issue that required repairs) I honestly had never heard of not sitting in a recliner with the slide closed. Of course, I guess I only did that when cleaning out the previous one to trade in. Glad I learned this! My husband always uses a "leaf blower" to quickly blow off the slides. We have it to blow off our site when setting up anyway. It is a small lightweight one, therefore not much of an effect on weight!. Thanks for the more helpful information!!!
My pleasure!
I like the 3 in 1 brand slide seal conditioner and slide lube. Almost every Walmart carries both.
Do not use on bottom of slide out. Nylon corners need Teflon. I used the 3in1 and my slide started jumping and screaming. I had to clean it with rubbing alcohol and then use Teflon spray to correct.
I have a travel trailer with a Schwintek slide. I have found it beneficial to lubricate the rollers under the slide with Boeshield T-9 about twice a year. The entire slide seems to roll more steady after a quick shot.
Same here. I use dry lubricant spray on my rails and it seems to go much better as well. 3 years in and slide motors are still good. Will continue spraying them.
Keep in mind that newer Schwintek slide mechanisms ARE NOT suppose to have any lubricant on them. They are self lubricating and can deteriorate if you add lubricant to them.
WE LOVED our Rack/Pinion slide unit,, and GREASE it every season
Ty
You can always tell its Sunday morning in the campground from all the leaf blowers running
😂
Thank you for the information about not using the slide out when it is in. Confirmed it with the manufacture and it could pull the dinette away from the wall. Our sales person used the fact that you could use it when in as a selling point. Great information from you as always!
Glad to help!
I have a slide out. I don’t think I would ever want one without it. I have a rack and pinion, and it has never failed me, however, I do all of the tips that nerd man tells me to.! 😅
They’re hard to give up once you’ve had one
Like when you went to broadband instead of dial up
No going back
@@JoshtheRVNerd 😆 truth
@@JoshtheRVNerd .... just like dating a redhead!
I'm an Uncle Gary and I love all the comments about Uncle Gary.
Hahaha
Im actually going to full time a small rv for work very soon and this video answered all the questions i had. Thanks Uncle Josh!
Glad to help
We have a rack and pinion slide out. Left the slide out fully extended for 3 months so family could stay in it. Well, turns out the side bottom edges have some water damage where the slide skis were attached. I believe it was a manufacturing defect since the edge of subfloor was exposed with carpet strands showing between that screwed on metal trim and slide ski. There was a gap that was NOT sealed. Now we have some rotting subfloor about 1 - 2 inches in, but I think we caught the problem in time so we don’t need to replace subfloor, but….. this shouldn’t have happened at all. I’ve got a 2018 Jayco Whitehawk 24mbh so it’s too late for a manufacturer warranty to fix
Josh, YOU are the BEST !!!!! ... I watch all of your videos. They are always packed with GREAT information.
Slides in Class A are manufactured to be used when closed. I am sure this adds weight and additional cost to make it.
The chairs in our slides have seat belts for people to secure themselves when the vehicle is moving down the road.
Glad you like them!
I like the WD-40 slide and gasket aerosol products.
As for the rubber seals I use 303 sealant and protector. Put in a spray bottle and spray the seals.
I also have sheintek system and DO lubricate the tracks. I use a dry lubricant though so it does not attract dirt. 5 years and no problems (yet)
Ty for sharing
I avoided slides this last time because of weight.
I lived in a dual slide trailer beach side for two years. Wash, lube and cycle the system every six months and all was well.
Awesome feedback! Ty
I own a telescopic ladder, for looking at the slide outs when where camping in the mountains.
This week end I pick my first travel trailer with a slide. My previous travel trailers did not have a slide. My wife wanted a slide I did not. My opinion is something that will cost a lot to repair. 😮
I hope it treats you well
Thank you. My wife and I enjoy your videos and we learn a lot also. Thanks.
This could be one of my favorite videos on RV's
I put a scissor jack under the frame where the slide is. This helps a lot for stability, and it is not hampering the slide box itself.
Yeah right behind the tires is a good spot as well. Helps isolate that movements nicely
Thanks Josh! I love the way you entertain us while educating!
My pleasure!
He soooo funny
Grow a full beard pls 🙏 😩
Josh, thank you for all the info on slide outs and when to not use them as well as maintenance. I have not seen this info anywhere else!!!!!
You’re welcome. I try!
Slide topper awning will solve things getting on your slideout roof. Standard on some model rvs. Ive been the industry since slideouts became almost standard, about 26 years now
I have used selfie stix for checking my roof as I have no ladder. People looked at me weird. Now glad to see the world is catching up to my idea.
Let them look. Keep doing what you're doing
I think it's generational sometimes
I've done a couple of e-bike reviews which is just me talking to a camera in public places. It LOOKS weird
Older people noticing me look confused or scoff
A younger guy saw me and goes "Are you blogging?! Nice!"
My hack for cleaning under the slide is a swiffer sweeper pad on a flyswatter.
Hey, whatever works. It’s actually pretty slick idea.
Love this idea. I am going to try that!
Mine have always been well tested😂. Not a single issue ever. I’m sure the refrigerator and couch/recliner in the slide out weigh both of us.
Appreciate the advice on maintaining a slide out knowledge is a powerful tool. Keep putting out the information and always happy camping
You bet
May seem extreme, but I have a small electric leaf blower I use with a lightweight collapsable ladder. Quick and easy to go up and blow debri and water off the slide. No water on top that just may get in under the squeegee sweep on the seal as the slide is retracted. Also, it can blow debri off the main roof if excessive!
Seems smart to me
Great info for anyone looking to buy an RV. Maintenance and upkeep to extend your investment.
Glad it was helpful!
Without reading all the comments, I’ll ask my question talking about weight and using a slide when it’s retracted which does make sense. What about the slide that has the kitchen in it but all the kitchen load that’s in there we’re loaded refrigerator pots and pans. utensils in the drawers. Do all these things need to be unloaded? Hopefully you get to this I get time I’ll try to read through all the comments more than likely someone else has already commented about this Eric thank you for your channel. I enjoy it. I enjoy your reviews. I enjoy your practice. Thank you very much Gary.
Mfgs build to handle the stuff THEY put into a slide
They don’t account for a grown adult standing or sitting on an unsupported edge of a slide
Personal experience. Rv owner for years. Slides are nice for the room BUT, I have had two fail, left me stranded one time, one leak cause massive damage, weight is massive. What it did was make me rethink how many slides do I want to deal with and the type of slide. I'm not a fan of the Vander slide (duo motor sync) that was the one that left me stranded. The other I could at least use a drill to manually pull it in.
Josh the educator, thank you brother, great job
I know a few. People who need that lub can, but if you buy an RV, you best get to know that unit, inside and out if not your investment will turn to shit real fast
I used the use a broom to sweep the slide out roof but now use a cordless leaf blower. Soooo much easier.
Plus.. it’s fun!
As a technician myself, in a shop and mobile. I used to hate working on the cable system, and I was able to have one of BAL instructors show us how to work on their system, and it is one of the easiest systems to work on. The oil on top of the slide was because they were getting their motors from china, and the oil was very thin. They have changed that. A lot of the problems with the cable slides I get are manufacturer mistakes during the installation.
Ty for sharing! This is good intel
I actually found a Chapstick under my kitchen slide from my daughter, was not happy that it found it's way under there and was crushed under the slide. I'm sure it is still there too this day as we traded in that trailer and oops we forgot to mention it when we traded it in. Didn't do any damage to anything but the Chapstick so we weren't concerned.
The only time you might want to use slide jacks is when you are on a completely solid cement surface that's not going to move at all and you are staying long term. If you are on gravel or dirt or grass I wouldn't even entertain looking at slide jacks. I have jacks for my toy hauler but those are for the lift gate ramp to support us when we use it as a patio which is very much recommended because the ramp is not designed to hold all that weight suspended in the air by 2 cables and a hinge.
Thankfully that doesn’t sound like a major deal
I had no idea about the integrity of slides when closed, thanks Josh 👍
Happy to help
Recently I was camping for 3 weeks and at the end I made sure to check before the top of the slide before putting it in because each day and night we were hearing acorns drop on top.
The only way for me to see and clear the top was to pull up next to the slide and stand on top of the bed of the truck.
Get a selfie stick for your phone
You can see/record the top and know if you need to go to the trouble of clearing it
Aerospace 303 on rubber seals. Can use it on your car too.
This just made me go from a jayco 24bh to a 27bh with an extra door up front. So im guessing storing stuff on seats during transport is the same "no" 👍🏼
Ours like many others has a pantry and refrigerator in the slide. We load these up and the weight is there when the slide is in or out and in between. If we are not supposed to occupy the slide while it is in because of the weight It basically means we can not put anything in the frig or pantry until the slide is fully out.
Mfgs account for space they put there
They don’t account for an adult sitting on the unsupported edge of a slide
Thanks for the tips. I just got my first trailler, and this really helps .
My pleasure and congratulations! Mind dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review for the helping hand by chance? I'd sure appreciate it!
Thanks, Shirley. I wish I'd watched this before I went shopping.
Thanks. And don’t call me Shirley 😆
Thanks for the Info! I was wondering about those slide Jack stands! You answered my questions! I appreciate your videos and knowledge you pass along! It’s appreciated!
Glad to help!
I bought my WhiteHawk from General RV, biggest mistake I ever made. Would like to trade it in and get a new travel trailer and I just may come to Bish’s just because you seem to actually give a shit. Thanks Josh!
Selfie stick for the slide is awesome
Yeah thanks to my friend Joshua Sheehan at Gander Flight for that one. Make sure you check his channe(s). He’s a full timer with a lot of tips and insights
We bought a new 2024 Forest Fiver Salem Platinum 27 RK. We have a rack & pinion super slide. It said one of the advantage was their triple seal slide out. I tried to see how that worked but really didn’t find anything on UA-cam that 3xplzins it. Anyway I appreciate this video and I’ll be purchasing the 2 products you mentioned. Thanks Josh! ❤
That RV has three potential slide seals point around the sides/top
A bulb seal and 2 wiper seals
@@JoshtheRVNerd I get it now 😂😂 It’s hard getting old. Our old rv was a 2008 Grreywolf 31z. Things have changed sooooo much since then. My husband enjoys the automatic hitch, quick drop stabilizer jacks, outdoor beer fridge as he calls it & the brakes on the camper are much improved. I enjoy the condo type feel on the inside. Perfect for our lake! I wanted the Salem 27View, but she’s a heavy girl, so I picked something very similar in a lighter weight. 💜👍🙏 Your videos have helped me tremendously, so thank you. 💙
Slide seal lubricant and if you have rubber roof (aka epdm) The best to use is 303 high uv protection and lubricates
Ty
Thank you Josh 😊 can you also talk about the different in bottom linings.
Thanks so much for the really good info. Not that I’ve done this, but had no idea that you shouldn’t use the slide out if it’s fully retracted!
Glad to be of service! :)
Great vid Josh. Also thanks for the heads up last week on the new season of The Rightest Gemstones. Buy the way you are mentioned on many other peoples rv vids.
I am?!
This is another very informative, excellent video Josh! I've never owned a slider and it makes total sense as you explained it but never thought about how these arent designed to be rigid when closed. This will be such helpful info to know for my next purchase.
Glad it was helpful!
with a rack and pinion slide you need a dry lubricant for the gear rail oil lube will attract dirt and cause the rail to bind up and may ruin gears and gear track.
my maintenance manual says to use oil (squirt in certain locations) on them and the RV technician told me to follow the manual only.
I have a rack&pinion slide. Should I lube it every time I go? Or 1time a year.Love all the videos, keep up the good work
Not every time no. A time or two a year is fine
Quarterly at most. And again - go light on the stuff. You don’t need to spray until it drips
Our new 2022 Wildwood slide and floor looked fine on our walkthrough. They delivered it to our site, and when the delivery driver left, I ran it out to begin putting our stuff inside. To our horror, there was a 10 inch tear in the linoleum flooring in front of the slide. The repair guy said it was from a sofa screw that was driven too far into the slide floor at the factory. After seeing this, I wonder if the dealership employees sat on, or walked on the closed slide when they were fixing the other 21 issues we found on the walk through. After all, the tear wasn't there when we saw it at the dealer.
Darn sofa screws just pulled out of the carpet and floor not to pleased so I left them out. At least it’s easier to get anything that slips through the end cushions to the floor
while I'm still waiting for the Brinkley TT, I will be looking at getting the Vroom RV slide system installed if they have any other type of slide mechanism.