The BEST And CHEAPEST Alternative To Contrast & Speed Paint
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Over the last few years we've seen a huge growth in the "speed painting" style of paint, from Contrast Paint to Speed Paint. Now Green Stuff World have released their own version and today we're putting them to the test.
Green Stuff World Dipping Inks - bit.ly/3ouvOil
Colour Forge Sprays - bit.ly/3FTmDzN
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Clicking on this, I was not expecting a paint review by "Bark at the Moon" era Ozzy Osbourne
Such a good album!
Hahahaha
The best ozzy
It is a glorious mane!
I’m driving from Cornwall up to York and then down to Swansea so you’ve just given me some inspiration for a playlist…
Always great see new paints enter the market. For that price, bottle size and contrast-like effect, these could easily become my go to paints for terrain where GW contrast paints just aren't a cost-effective solution. Can't wait to get hold of some to try out.
Yeah for terrain these would be perfect. I’m still shocked at the price, they’re a bargain!
Note that in the summer heat - the Josh grows a luxurious mane both to attract females and protect his precious northern brain from the terrible rays of the all destroying Sun.
Nature is so beautiful.
That is beautifully written! To clarify though, I’ve had long hair for 2 years now, I’ve just started wearing it down 😅😅😅
GSW is a great company. I just got a handful of GW contrast paints to give them a try, but now I will definitely give these dipping inks a go. Especially for the price.
I was so shocked at the price, really impressed
I was watching a clip from GSW a couple of days ago about these dips. Glad you did a review on them. Excellent video as always... Thank you
My pleasure as always :)
That Turquoise Dip looks lovely.
The Thulsa Doom henchman haircut is a nice treat too.
The turquoise is gorgeous yeah
More competition is only a good thing for us hobbyists and you can't argue at the value. Great review mate 🤘
Cheers bud
arguably their Intensity Inks are the first Contrast equivalent GSW brought out, a fair few of them are among my go to paints, Opulentus Black for example is basically Black Templar (just a little less brown skewing) if you're looking for a true black Contrast alternative. Red really does seem to be one of their weaknesses across almost all their various paint ranges, they all come out kinda muggy and their hues aren't particularly enticing either... a lot of their products are excellent, but some you have to sort of bend to your will and make work for you, as it were.
Totally agree. I've been using the candy inks and intensity inks for a while too and I love most of them but yeah, red is not the strongest
I think the brushed on finish looks way better than the airbrushed finish. Great video though. Already got the full set and loving them as an amateur painter. Good value too.
Deffinitly better with a brush for that "contrast" effect. Through the airbrush they're great for tints or OSL on models
Everytime I see the hair out it slays me. Glorious.
Thank you very much :)
my man, you rock the retro hairdo! Well done
Thank you kindly :)
That green does look the stand out colour from the ones tested.
Good way to cycle through the grots, still got loads from second edition I never painted!
That green is going to be staying on hand for plenty of paint jobs haha
I was deceived when I bought & test the Dipping Ink named "Black Shadow", which is the one that you tested. As you said this paint is like a grey/green colour, but I recently found that they renamed this paint, with number 3487, to "Green Stone" and now they sell another paint with name "Deep Black DIP", and that seems to be a much better paint.
Yeah they've released more and filled a lot of the gaps they had from the first run
Time will tell if these are the new way forward or not as other video channels try them out and show results but price wise - WOW!! Fantastic value. Cheers Josh.
you know what i like best about these? they call their inks actualy inks haha
contrast and speed paint are just thicker inks anyway
haha, very true!
I love that Josh now looks like Homer in the episode of the Simpsons where he gets his hair back
Brilliant hahaha
Nice, great value for money too!
Absolutely brilliant pricing, well impressed
The plain white grots really is a great band name lol
True story 😅
Uh oh - more paints to buy 😂😂 Thanks for the demo!
hahahaha, you're welcome!
Love what GSW is doing
I'm super impressed with them too
Awesome stuff! I only just heard of these paints, but I'm seeing more and more painters use it! I'm going to have to get some for sure!
Value for money with these paints is crazy good.
Thanks for this! I was going to buy some of the pure metal pigments, then I saw the dipping inks and I've been waiting to check-out. Now I'm going to pull the trigger and get a few bottles to try out on some kruelboyz.
I've got a whole host of GSW stuff on its way, after using these I was all too happy to grab some more stuff
Great video Josh, I am always a bit wary of GSW because they have a bit of an odd reputation fro doing shady stuff, everything I have ever used from them has been great though.
Cheers
Big big win 👍.I will deffo be giving them ago .Thanks for sharing 👍
No problem at all :)
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Got the full line on the way.
Nice! Hope you like them
Hey Pickle, do these paints have the same feature as speed paints where they reactivate when other acrylic paint is applied on top?
Not had that issue yet no, though tbf I didn’t have that issue with Speed Paints either. I’m using pro-Acryl for highlights and layering, dunno if that’s got anything to do with it
was just about to ask this same question.
@@TheOtakuChuck Supposedly that doesn't happen
Thank you for the review Josh
My pleasure bud
Great video! Definitely need to get some of these!
Glad you enjoyed :)
New here, hair got the subscribe. Just wonderful man, truly great.
hahaha, thank you very much!
They’re very interesting - have found Elfwood brown, Skeleton brown and Papyrus most useful so far.
I think my upcoming Star Wars Legion project will see a lot of use from the Papyrus one
@@ThePickleJar Papyrus is seeing some use for my 40k Ulthwé Eldar army. It's quite pleasing over a Scale 75 Bone Charm undercoat.
I've really come to like GSW's products, but it's incredibly painful given their shipping costs and time to US. Seriously prevents any kind of impulse or try-it-out purchases. I usually wind up looking for better shipped/closer alternatives.
They must have some stockists over there surely? I know most independents in the UK stock them
@@ThePickleJar not any LHS within 4 hours of me one-way. I've not bothered to look for a domestic reseller to order from in-country as my main staple paints are Pro Acryl, Kimera, and a few Vallejo Model Colors. With my inks I predominantly stick with Liquidtex with a few Daler Rowney FWs. Only reason this line appealed to me was to play around with some speed-painting work flows, my flat refusal to touch anything GW not priced appropriately, I have yet to find anything I like from Army Painter, and I didn't want to premix my own set of contrast-like speed washes. I wanted to compare these to my current method of using the PA transparents.
Pickle, request please, do these have any of the reactivation issues the AP had with their range ?
If you know or can let us know it would be really REALLY helpful ?
Huge thanks in advance :)
Hello! I've not had any issues with reactivation with these no. I've been primarily using them thinned down as glazes or tints on models, especially the more vibrant colours. Hope that helps :)
Huge thanks for the response! Thank you, still have we the old that re-activate, seriously left a model curing for a month, put a brush on it and it’s a mess. Tried mixing with other mediums Vallejo and Windsor and Newton, and it was the Windsor & Newton glazing medium that seems to work with out reactivating to badly, but is better through and airbrush. As it’s a clear gloss medium you spray it on over the dry AP SP and you build on it. Mixing it with the medium does not work the same way as inks unfortunately. Again huge thanks for all the content you do and Luke put out they are always informative (your video on the £50 - £60 pound army was awesome!) huge thanks for taking the time make the and do these reviews, if you get a chance please please, Scale75 instant colour and Vallejo Express in comparison with AP Speed Paint(the new stuff) if you can, please ? Again massive thanks 😊
this video is really helpful bought that ink paint I was wondering about it
Happy to help :)
I am seriously wondering if Army Painter will release new colors for their Speed Paints, considering GW just added a bunch of new, vibrant colors and now GSW joining the fray with their MASSIVE price/ml advantage.
I've got to imagine so. The contrast range, whilst the most expensive, wins on variety. I think this is something we'll see continue to grow as more companies do their versions and add new colours to their ranges. It can only be a good thing for hobbyists. More variety and choice is always good.
Speedpaint 2.0 is releasing June 2023
@@3dreamsequence Yeah...you do know that comment of mine is over 7 months old right?
Nice video thank you.
But your hair? It's amazing and i love it! 🤘
hahaha, thank you
New to the channel - great video! Really informative
Thanks for checking out the video and channel and leaving a comment. Glad you enjoyed the video :)
Citadel, Green Stuff World, Head and Shoulders
Honestly I don't really get the hype around contrast and speed paints. The only color they go over well is white which makes fixing any errors really difficult and to me at least that seems like it would just makes them slower to use than regular acrylics or oil paints.
I tried to see if I couldn't do something similar with regular paints and ended up getting better results by using Kimera Kolors. I basically just thinned them so they're almost a wash and smacked that all over the model as you would with speed paints. Some of the colours do recess shading on their own but I mixed brighter ones with bit of black.
By the way since you were talking about price comparisons a part of me always dies when I see people use citadel crackle paints because they're paying 5 times more for a worse product when compared to GSW Mojave Mudcrack or even worse using something like stirland mud instead of Vallejo mud which comes in 200ml buckets.
I think the thing to remember with these, speed paints and contrast paints is that they’re primarily aimed at beginner painters to get stuff done quick. Most hobbyists that have been around a while will know how to make their own similar thing or just won’t be fussed on them because they don’t serve a purpose. And that’s fine. I mainly use them as base coats when I use stuff like this and then more traditional painting over the top for layers/highlights.
Agree wholeheartedly about the texture paint stuff though, blows my mind though I guess again, some people just don’t know any better.
@@ThePickleJar Yeah that's a fair point, though funnily enough I started just couple years back and contrast paints were already a thing and they just confused me. I got couple of them along with regular paints and washes but for the life of me I couldn't figure out what their purpose was until I looked it up on youtube because they just acted so differently from other paints and had really weird coverage.
@@BarokaiRein with contrast style paints I have 3 main uses for them that are worth a try
1. To tint metallics into colour metallics, works extremely well over gold or silver
2. To cheat glazes (for highlights), just need to do two things, you have to "overhighlight", like ruin the model with edge highlights of white and then blend them down, as long as the basecoat is a similar colour it will work. Also if you're wanting something with multiple tones, for example I have painted sickly, gross looking skin on some of my chaos. Vallejo dead flesh (a very pale creamy green tone) with magos purple over the top, looks fantastic, now I'm sure I could use a purple wash but it has done the job effortlessly
3. Just as a quick and dirty way to do specific kinds of surfaces, leather, bone, cloth etc
You can definitely achieve these things (except the metal tinting) with normal paint but the time saved for a similar effect is a pretty attractive prospect
What's the hair to video content ratio in the comments about now - Fifty- fifty or sixty-forty?
Feels like 90-10 😅😅😅
Seems similar to the Scale75 Instant Colors with the ability to layer up for the intensity with weaker opacity and saturation with one pass, I've seen people better than myself do great blends with the weaker saturation style quick paints and slowly building up layers
Yeah that's a good comparison
Loving the fro bro.
Thanks muchly :)
Thanks for the video, i was going to drop some cash in these, buti couldn't remember my password... so looks like I need to remember it now.
Glad I could help!
Thanks for the review, been interested in these since they came out.
They did look a bit more watery than contrast, anything you noticed?
I know this was a quick review, but did you try/check for any re'activation? After speed paints, I'm a tad worried^^
I didn’t try it in the review but one of my patrons asked that same question so I tested it, didn’t have any issue with re-activation so they seem ok. They’re a bit closer to Speed Paints in terms of consistency, they don’t move around loads on the model, much nicer to control.
@@ThePickleJar Thanks for the quick reply! And sweet! 👍
Guess I'll ordering a few bottles to try them out then. (: Also, the amount of paint you get, is off the charts. Have to order them before GSW wakes up and re'bottles them^^
Especially if you’re ordering through GSW they’ve got 25% off at the moment too! Insane value
@@ThePickleJar Yepp!!
These look great. But shipping to USA is about $47. Is there a distributor here in USA?
Not sure on distributors in the USA. Might be worth checking the GSW website for more info?
Cool to finally see someone try these out, I recently grabbed their Acid Green to try on my Orks. Now it just needs to get here....been almost 2 weeks now.
PS looking thru your comments gotta laugh a little at how the #1 asked thing is AP's reactivation. Hopefully these will be the true "Contrast Killer" we hoped Speedpaint would be (I still like speedpaint, but realize it has it's downsides)
They seem to have worked fine so far for me, done a lot of testing this week and no issues so far
Dipping inks look great, but getting them in the US is still steep...they're still a very good value since they're 60ml, but shipping from overseas is almost as much as the products.
It's always a problem with stuff like that. Are there no stockists over in the US?
All these guys that are jealous of your hair. Excellent!
So much jealous, many wow
Did you test them as advertised? Did you ever Dip them?
I did not no haha
Might have missed you talking about it in the video but do these have the reactivating issue Army Painter does?
I haven't noticed them doing that but I've only used them on a couple of projects so far.
That's not a haircut; that's a main!
🦁
Did you use the Master Medium at all .. and if so .. did it give the expected effect ?
I didn't in the video as I just wanted to try the colours as they come but I've tried it since and yeah, it just thins them down to more of a glaze. Works exactly as expected.
Do they sell the thinning medium for these? Or do you have a good medium you suggest for thinning contrast/speed/dippin' paints?
I used the GSW Master Medium they sent with these. It seemed to work ok to me, no issues that I noticed. Generally I use a medium from the same company the paints are from as they'll be designed for those paints.
Thank you for the test. Is there a reactivation syndrome like the Speedpaints ?
I’ve not had any issues so far so I’m going to say no. Testing them more over the next few weeks but looks good so far
does the blue they have match up to ultramarines blue?
There's evidence of cracking where these pool in some of your samples as has been mentioned in some other reviews. This is an absolute deal breaker for me. Any observations around this? They're great value and have a bunch of colours I can really use, but it's putting me off ATM :(
hmmm, I've just looked over the test models to see what you mean and couldn't see any cracks in the paint. Do you have a timestamp of where you saw it?
@@ThePickleJar 6:35 - the Amber Glow appears to have cracked under the gobbo's chin.
Wanna know it all!
I'm sorry, I didn't hear a single word you said. I got stuck on that hair and couldn't get past it.
It reminds me of one of those sitcom episodes where it shows the main characters "back in the 80s"
I’m both baffled by and loving the attention the hair is getting 😅
@@ThePickleJar As a Dark Angels player, I'm taking it as a sign that the Lion is about to return!
@@ThePickleJar what did you expect would happen when you showed up with those luscious locks?
I’ve had long hair for ages, it’s just usually tied up 😅
How are the reactivation on them? Are they reactivating like speedpaint, or is it more like the other 3 that dont, i have speedpaint that i not a big fan of, and i got instant potions from scalecolor and they are great to and so is the last one, the antíthesi (contrast in greek) paints from warcolors. I have orderd the dipping inks and they are on the way from Spain to me in Norway now. The only once i realy dont like much is the speedpaint from armypainter and its only because of the reactivate issu. Hoping the dipping inks dont have that issu, and if they dont they will become a part of my everyday arsenal of hobby stuff
I’ve tested them out and didn’t have any issue with reactivation, but tbf I didn’t have any issue with the speed paints either. I use pro Acryl for layering and highlights, dunno if that has anything to do with it.
@@ThePickleJar no i dont think so. I own most of the brands of hobby paints thats out there and i have that issu with about half the colors i own from the speedpaint line no matter what brand i use. But thanks, i have already orderd them and they are on the way, so i will find out next week. Thanks man
This man reminds me of the Beast from the "Beauty and the beast" series with Ron Pearlman and Linda Hamilton.
I dare you to disagree.
Doesn't the wet pallet make them too "moist" ?
Didn't notice any negative effects no
@@ThePickleJar ok. Cool. Wet pallets being fickle creatures I can individual results may vary. Where I live I have to leave the top ajar or it turns into mixed muddy runny mess. Ive also learned to not saturate mine as per instructions. I find if Im renewing the pallet with new paper etc, its best to do it the night before saturate it get the paper just right and pour off the excess and maybe only adding extra water every other day.
Evening
sup
Kenny Fucking Powers!
I had to google that haha
When I saw these advertised I was confused as to their purpose and watching GSW’s promotional videos didn’t help in the least as they simply showed all of the different bottles without any commentary or demonstration. Several weeks later I’ve finally discovered what they’re for.
The term dipping ink still perplexes me however as it suggests the models are meant to be dunked in the liquid rather than the ink / wash being either brushed or sprayed on. For that, however, they would need to be in a Citadel-style pot rather than eye-dropper bottle, however large it may be.
In marketing terms, GSW’s approach seems rather mystifying - you certainly can’t say it does what it says on the tin (OK, bottle) - but thankfully the product itself definitely appears promising and something else I’m now keen to try for myself.
It is a bit confusing as I thought the same when I got them, especially given the size of the bottles. Guess it's just wanting a unique name so they stand out?
Did you cut your hair? O.o
These paints tend to thin alot with just a little water, putting them on a wet pallet, I suspect, makes them behave and cover differently than straight outta the pot.
Didn’t really notice they’d thinned too much tbf but it’s something I’ll look at as I use them more over the coming weeks
honestly I think inks, and transparent's work better.
That's fair
With the £ plummeting recently I guess these Dipping Inks are at least £6 nowadays 😂
RRP is over £5, but they're currently on sale for £3.89 a bottle or £19.88 for a set of 6 and (at least in the UK) free shipping.
ill still never buy anything from GSW after their bullshit about color shifting paint. Super turnoff to that brand. Does look like a fair value product though.
I CANNOT PROCESS WHAT YOUR ACCENT IS…. CAN SOMEONE TELL ME?
I'm from Rotherham, South Yorkshire
@@ThePickleJar OH FAIR ENOUGH…. SORRY FOR THE CAPPS I SPILLED MILK ON MY KEYBOARD LAST WEEK AND ITS STUCK NOW….
Hmm, I never understood why these reviews paint an entire model the same colour. That’s great to see the individual colours but no one paints like that. Wouldn’t it be better to show how colours interact with each other on adjacent areas of the model? These types of paint tend to be very runny and can bleed into areas you intend to paint another colour. With Army painter speedpaint that’s a huge problem because it often runs into recesses of an adjacent area and you can’t retouch the primer without the paint bleeding through. And no one wants to varnish after each colour. Contrast is easy to touch up, as are Instant colours and Warcolor Antithesis but again, each have their own flaws.
Effectively, painting a model a single colour only reviews the colour and coverage. It doesn’t review the product in any meaningful way for how they’ll be used. The positives, the flaws and all
I do totally get what you mean. The main purpose of videos like this though IS to show the colours and consistency. A lot of what you’re talking about is down to painting ability.
@@ThePickleJar This is true. But if you’d used all the colours on a single model you could have saved yourself a load of time in painting, shooting and editing. ;-P
And you’d still have had a load of spare Orcs left over. 🤔
I stopped buying from GSW on principle.
What for, if you don’t mind me asking?
@@ThePickleJar oh they got very litigious with Vallejo over the "color shift" name.
I mean I'm not going to stop anyone from buying GSW, but I personally thought it was done in bad faith.
Besides, Folk Art also uses that term for their iridescent acrylic paint so it was definitely targeted.