I did a couple armwrestling training sessions with Allen almost a decade ago, and I learned more in a couple hours than I have in 10 years of watching youtube videos. He's a wealth of knowledge and a STRONG dude!
Man Allen Fisher is a legend, but I don't like how he flash pinned you out of nowhere during the demonstration. I've seen many injuries caused by similar pulling and it's not good for the joints or muscles, since you weren't loading/ expecting it. There's a good reason why the more experienced armwrestler should hold instead of flash pinning. I believe Allen had good intentions, but he shouldn't have gone about it that way. You took it like a champ man 💪
@1:55 that wasn't where his hand originally was. The instructor is wrong here. He's full of shit about his saying he can pick up on things that are not level. That's called an opinion or observation. He's not that magical folks
Sounds like he’ll ask you questions, and say you’re wrong just so he can explain something. (He’s obviously a genius at the craft, but he sounds like he’s really impressed with himself. )
nah dude you didnt move from when he touched your hand until he came back your finger was parallel with the cable line on the roof, hes in trying to get in your head. I've watched it 4x and you didnt move maybe a centimeter
Yep, his hand stayed still. This old guy was set on position flaw in order to Segway into his rehearsed routine that he repeats every time he's a guest speaker. His claim of autism is hilarious, it seems his form gives him a sense of power and desire for the social spotlight...
A wealth of knowledge, it's gotta be hard as a newcomer, you got all the og's trying to tell you things, huge egos and a bunch of pissing contests but that's kind of what the sport is I guess. You did an amazing job of just being the student.
Yeah definitely some major arrogance.. I know he is good but I've seen him take things way over board verbally!!! It's cool to be knowledgeable but don't let it go to your head 😬 just saying
I can agree, but he admitted to the condition he has had to learn to deal with. I can relate b/c I suffer...or benefit from the same type issue. details etc.
Crazy. There was always that one guy at school who.. whether it's genetics, technique or just.... general baddassery that could Arm Wrestle so freaking well, and even if the biggest guys did beat them , it was a huge battle. I'd love to know the science behind it.
School arm wrestling 9/10 times it would just be them probably sliding their hand up to get the most favorable position, combined with having good levers with their structure and just knowing even the slightest way to use it can take out 99.999% of the other students.
This is the kind of guy you want to train you, mind like Devon and the killer instinct to win. He's a champ because he has an edge. That's what all champs have, the sharpest edge possible
I feel like I'm a professional after watching this, I never thought there was this much detail, I now respect Lincoln Hawk a lot more. I'm headed to the nearest bar to practice! 😂
Fisher seems like the kind of tool that wants everyone to know just how great he is, and he'll talk down to you to do that. He likes the sound of his voice, and spends a lot of time talking himself up while making up phony criticisms before he's even made a point.
Yes and no, I think most of us have met people like this. He is teaching useful info but he was probably taught the same way and a lot of older generation guys are the type where they are really rude to you until you earn their respect. It’s all about how you take it for guys like that I take the info I can and ignore the bullshit if they actually know a thing or too
He actually did not move. Look carefully at his hand at 1:39 against the trim of the garage and then look where Allen places pulls it down to at 1:56. Haha sorry video doesn't lie.
Actually, it is possible he could have moved, we only see one side of the video basically in 2D, so if he was to pivot his elbow a little we wouldn't notice it from our view but can be observed better from his point of view. As far as using the garage as reference @6:12 the garage door moves deeming it an unreliable reference point, ijs lol
Allen Fisher, man I hate guys who teach like him, All you're thinking about is how annoying he is and how you just want to get away from him the whole time. An awful teacher
“Tell me what’s wrong?” I HATE when people do this. They want to tell you something, but they want you to try to GUESS exactly the answer they are holding in their head.
@isaacrush9184 no this guys right. Your wrong everyone thar knows Alan know he's a dick He's not teaching he's preaching at them he's Be literally them hes patronizing them hes not teaching. This is not how you teach if you want people to learn. He sets them up to fail. They never have the right answer and even if they did guess the right answer he would change his mind and make it the wrong answer and then come up with. The right answer on the flag. I know people like this he thinks hes a hot shot. He's enjoying this way too much too bad they are not. And when you're teaching you don't give them all this at 1 time you do a little out of time. It's too much hes moving too fast. He's trying to show him all what all he knows and how much he knows instead of just working on something a little something
The word you were looking for is inquisitive Allen, but the first thing I would have noticed is his knuckle height. With his arm to the front of the pad he’d probably want his entire arm more vertical if possible in relation to your arm while engaging his riser. I’m still searching for that old school training footage of you dropping and catching those weights BTW.
Hey hitman how u doing buddy? This is Zach u commented on a comment I posted for Devon just telling me don’t be discouraged if Devon doesn’t message me back cause I asked him to and he has definitely liked my posts gave me couple thumbs up but hasn’t answered no big deal he a busy man and I’m just a amateur arm wrestler in south western pa in Uniontown south of Pittsburgh.. Allen u are one of the greatest lightweight arm wrestlers to walk this planet and just by u actually talking to me and sending me a message on behalf of another gave be so much emotion of happiness and Encouragement I just appreciated it so much u have no idea I watch ur videos a lot cause when u are on the table it is a schooling of the art of arm wrestling I am a 160 165 lb arm wrestler and am not in super shape at all but I have been arm wrestling long enough and have that hidden strength that when someone gets on the table and hits u and u stare them in the eye like are u even pulling and u can just see there eyes communicating with there head thinking how is this lil 5,10 tall 160 lb kid that looks like he is doesn’t have anything, can beat arm wrestlers that have 50 75lbs on him .. I learn teqniques to take peoples power away that evens us out in the lane I’m taking or if I’m going to hook, top roll, shoulder press or drop my body use my long lever gain height with my fingers by using a variation of the kings move.. I can gain advantages.. would love to continue communicating with u and any of ur arm wrestling community that are some studs that can help a true lover of the sport .. #PULLINGISBELIEVIN
Allen Fisher needs to take his glasses off he will. He was in the center both times when he and he didn't move when he said he moved to he pulled him past center that dude set up proper. Every time
Gotta call out Fisher compare his arm from where it was to where he said it moved (barely dif) vs where he moved it down c’mon man respect to a Legend but
Did any of you in the comments play sports? Everyone is calling Allen a “pompous ass” and stuff like that. I don’t see the problem with his coaching style. He reminds me of my old high school football coaches. Guy is a world champ, he has a lot of knowledge to share. Some of y’all are soft.
I mean, props to father Allen and all but @1:39 you set up and don't move at all yet he says you do. How do I know this? Your hand lines up perfectly with the frame line at the top of the garage and your hand doesn't move. Slight finger movement, but overall exactly where you set up at. Then he comes and tries to tug you way down lower than you were when you set up. Lol Come on Allen, stop playing. You got the heat, we know it already. No need for that. Great knowledge though, keep it up.
He never moved his hand he was extremely still look at his alignment with the garage in the background and tell me he moved lol....the gentleman talking is the one that moved his hand just my observation. Not saying the man is wrong in his technique just that his hand never moved at all. Great video great info.
Guy is seriously tripping about the shoulders being level he even is at an angle at some points. Et you a good sport cause I know you watched this back thinking tf..
He said you moved and you didn't. Then he dragged your arm across the table and told you to stay there. THEN he came back and said "What's wrong with his position?" and he said you were set up too far to his side but he's the one who put you there and told you to stay. lol
Never arm-wrestled a day in my life I watched the whole video. Love the nuances. I’m gonna wrastle my wife!!!!
I just started training recently and it seems more complicated than rocket science.
I bet the wife won
Pull with your buddies ❤
Today he gonna SMASH 😂
Popeye, where olive oil?
I did a couple armwrestling training sessions with Allen almost a decade ago, and I learned more in a couple hours than I have in 10 years of watching youtube videos. He's a wealth of knowledge and a STRONG dude!
Man Allen Fisher is a legend, but I don't like how he flash pinned you out of nowhere during the demonstration. I've seen many injuries caused by similar pulling and it's not good for the joints or muscles, since you weren't loading/ expecting it. There's a good reason why the more experienced armwrestler should hold instead of flash pinning. I believe Allen had good intentions, but he shouldn't have gone about it that way. You took it like a champ man 💪
Yeah that was a wtf moment. He did it again at 10:25 like holy shit man relax and teach. Almost tore something there.
Guy is crazy
@1:55 that wasn't where his hand originally was. The instructor is wrong here. He's full of shit about his saying he can pick up on things that are not level. That's called an opinion or observation. He's not that magical folks
His knowledge is so deep. 😅 This guy could get to the point in two minutes but he just likes to hear himself talk.
Would have loved to have been there. Never would have this knowledge without this kind of video. Thanks for posting.
Ofcourse thank you for Watching (:
I wanna try
You literally did not move. At all. Watch his hand compared to the roof. You stayed locked like a mannequin. 🤥
Sounds like he’ll ask you questions, and say you’re wrong just so he can explain something. (He’s obviously a genius at the craft, but he sounds like he’s really impressed with himself. )
He asserting his dominance.
@@eddystylez thats a good way to turn people away
Excellence tends to create narcissism.
I learned everything I know from the 1987 training video Over the top
nah dude you didnt move from when he touched your hand until he came back your finger was parallel with the cable line on the roof, hes in trying to get in your head. I've watched it 4x and you didnt move maybe a centimeter
Yes, I feel the same.
Yes I was thinking the same thing. He didn't move at all.
Exactly. That's what I said.
Allen needs to take his glasses off maybe 🤣🤣🤣
Yep, his hand stayed still. This old guy was set on position flaw in order to Segway into his rehearsed routine that he repeats every time he's a guest speaker. His claim of autism is hilarious, it seems his form gives him a sense of power and desire for the social spotlight...
A wealth of knowledge, it's gotta be hard as a newcomer, you got all the og's trying to tell you things, huge egos and a bunch of pissing contests but that's kind of what the sport is I guess. You did an amazing job of just being the student.
What an absolute privilege it was to learn from this thanks Allen Fisher/ guys!
He sounds knowledgeable but also sounds like a huuuuge tool. Good on Etienne for standing PERFECTLY STILL lol.
Fischer is a 26x world champion. They're not even close to the same level. He's also known for talking a lot
Yeah definitely some major arrogance.. I know he is good but I've seen him take things way over board verbally!!! It's cool to be knowledgeable but don't let it go to your head 😬 just saying
@@rainyriderr1112 the man was making up problems just so he could fix them in the most painful way possible
I can agree, but he admitted to the condition he has had to learn to deal with. I can relate b/c I suffer...or benefit from the same type issue. details etc.
@@billyshupe5239 Yeah, compare Brzenk's easy manner of speaking to this. Or to how Devon was teaching Scot Mendelson how to arm wrestle nice and easy.
This type of training isn't for everyone but if you can get into the same headspace, it can be game changing.
Allen is like the modern Oracle at Delphi, but for armwrestling
Crazy. There was always that one guy at school who.. whether it's genetics, technique or just.... general baddassery that could Arm Wrestle so freaking well, and even if the biggest guys did beat them , it was a huge battle.
I'd love to know the science behind it.
School arm wrestling 9/10 times it would just be them probably sliding their hand up to get the most favorable position, combined with having good levers with their structure and just knowing even the slightest way to use it can take out 99.999% of the other students.
This is the kind of guy you want to train you, mind like Devon and the killer instinct to win. He's a champ because he has an edge. That's what all champs have, the sharpest edge possible
Lessons from a legend
A lot of great knowledge ,, this could have been put on DVD and made money. But they give it for free. Thanks Men !
My pleasure 🦾
I mean, they still make money on it, and we still pay for the content we see on youtube. We are paying not with dollars, but with our attention.
I feel like I'm a professional after watching this, I never thought there was this much detail, I now respect Lincoln Hawk a lot more. I'm headed to the nearest bar to practice! 😂
Lmfao watch out for smasher man
Over the toooopppp!
Are bars just always full of people wanting to armwrestle or something?
@@ahumandoing6813 watch the movie "Over the Top" that should answer your question
Fisher seems like the kind of tool that wants everyone to know just how great he is, and he'll talk down to you to do that. He likes the sound of his voice, and spends a lot of time talking himself up while making up phony criticisms before he's even made a point.
Spot the fuck on brother. He sets them up to fail for answers and talks down to them...
Yes and no, I think most of us have met people like this. He is teaching useful info but he was probably taught the same way and a lot of older generation guys are the type where they are really rude to you until you earn their respect. It’s all about how you take it for guys like that I take the info I can and ignore the bullshit if they actually know a thing or too
@@Armbender1085you got it. Allen is just old school as it gets. Take the info you can, ignore the bullshit.
This was Over the Top.
What a great mind to listen to, so much experience 👍
Thanks for sharing 👊
I congratulate your patience and respect, you have class
He actually did not move. Look carefully at his hand at 1:39 against the trim of the garage and then look where Allen places pulls it down to at 1:56. Haha sorry video doesn't lie.
Actually, it is possible he could have moved, we only see one side of the video basically in 2D, so if he was to pivot his elbow a little we wouldn't notice it from our view but can be observed better from his point of view. As far as using the garage as reference @6:12 the garage door moves deeming it an unreliable reference point, ijs lol
Keep it Ethan, go with the Pros and you reach your dreams on day!
The bicep muscle insertions are incredible on both of these guys, but especially the arm wrestling whisperer. No tendons. All muscle belly.
I respect Allen's ability. At the same time he is an egomaniac. There are more unassholed ways of teaching someone.
The whisperer did not move where Allen said he moved from in the beginning. Dude was just makiung that shit up!
I never thought there were so many factors in just even the slightest tilt and position .gonna have to watch this like 5 times and take notes .
Thanks for sharing this. Just like BJJ, it's a game of .. I was going to say game of inches.. but it's even smaller than that!
Great video. Knowledgeable man he is.
Thanks for sharing.
His arm articulations are massive!!!!
Well now I know I don't wanna train with fisher. I mean his record shows his level, but Jesus dude.
Allen is a legend and certainly incredibly knowledgeable, but his teaching / lecturing style is incredibly grating and off-putting haha.
Dude is a straight asshole with ZERO people skills. Awesome that he's a legend though. Pretty cool.
Right? It’s like, just TELL US, stop asking us to figure out what you want to say!
@@Wanker527 that's what I'm getting... I'm not here to take a quiz. I'm here for u to tell me
He tells you IMMEDIATELY… He’s autistic and tends to ask a lot of questions because of it.
And his hand didn't move allen was the one who moved it down
excellent video. what a legend
he can see the house is not leveled just by looking at it, yet he moves Etienne's hand out of the original position 5 inches, saying he moved it.
Allen Fisher, man I hate guys who teach like him, All you're thinking about is how annoying he is and how you just want to get away from him the whole time. An awful teacher
Wow a blast from the past! I remember Fishers setups. Learned so much from this guy. Was it ESPN boy the good ole days
Came over from Facebook. Love the inside look at your journey in arm wrestling. Very interesting and great content
Fischer is a golden page in a white book
He actually didn’t move mr know it all
That old man will fuck you up
Yeah but he want to explain to others certain situations
He probably know but just for educating purposes
Ladies and gentlemen this is called grandiosity
what a tachtician and artist
Great knowledge or great recap, thanks for vid 💪😈🤘
Hahaha 🤣 I love Allan but it's the way you talk to people and it trips me out when he goes overboard!! WAY OVERBOARD 😬
I believe the word you were looking for is "inquisitive". I noticed the house before I started the video.
Very clear explanation
Whenever I see aviator sunglasses... I think ego problem immediately!!!
Great job Ethan 😭
😝
“Tell me what’s wrong?” I HATE when people do this. They want to tell you something, but they want you to try to GUESS exactly the answer they are holding in their head.
My guy, it’s not just about tell them or you. This is a class, he is teaching them
@isaacrush9184 no this guys right. Your wrong everyone thar knows Alan know he's a dick He's not teaching he's preaching at them he's Be literally them hes patronizing them hes not teaching. This is not how you teach if you want people to learn. He sets them up to fail. They never have the right answer and even if they did guess the right answer he would change his mind and make it the wrong answer and then come up with. The right answer on the flag. I know people like this he thinks hes a hot shot. He's enjoying this way too much too bad they are not. And when you're teaching you don't give them all this at 1 time you do a little out of time. It's too much hes moving too fast. He's trying to show him all what all he knows and how much he knows instead of just working on something a little something
Thats kinda suupr fascinating to see, cool dude the sensei of the sensei 🤙🏽
The word you were looking for is inquisitive Allen, but the first thing I would have noticed is his knuckle height. With his arm to the front of the pad he’d probably want his entire arm more vertical if possible in relation to your arm while engaging his riser. I’m still searching for that old school training footage of you dropping and catching those weights BTW.
Hey hitman how u doing buddy? This is Zach u commented on a comment I posted for Devon just telling me don’t be discouraged if Devon doesn’t message me back cause I asked him to and he has definitely liked my posts gave me couple thumbs up but hasn’t answered no big deal he a busy man and I’m just a amateur arm wrestler in south western pa in Uniontown south of Pittsburgh.. Allen u are one of the greatest lightweight arm wrestlers to walk this planet and just by u actually talking to me and sending me a message on behalf of another gave be so much emotion of happiness and Encouragement I just appreciated it so much u have no idea I watch ur videos a lot cause when u are on the table it is a schooling of the art of arm wrestling I am a 160 165 lb arm wrestler and am not in super shape at all but I have been arm wrestling long enough and have that hidden strength that when someone gets on the table and hits u and u stare them in the eye like are u even pulling and u can just see there eyes communicating with there head thinking how is this lil 5,10 tall 160 lb kid that looks like he is doesn’t have anything, can beat arm wrestlers that have 50 75lbs on him .. I learn teqniques to take peoples power away that evens us out in the lane I’m taking or if I’m going to hook, top roll, shoulder press or drop my body use my long lever gain height with my fingers by using a variation of the kings move.. I can gain advantages.. would love to continue communicating with u and any of ur arm wrestling community that are some studs that can help a true lover of the sport .. #PULLINGISBELIEVIN
I'm 20 mins from you....let's clinch!
@2:24 Mr. smarty-pants perfecto autistic braniac -There is no _pectorial_ it's PEC-TO-RAL
I had no idea that much went into arm wrestling. Great and informative. Fun stuff
I haven't arm wrestled anyone in real competition and I knew most of this already it's common sense really about how the human body works
Yeah you think that till you grip up then your arrogance gets thrown out the window and someone who actually knows slams your hand down. Lmao
The Biker is the coolest MFer on the internet. I dig it.
At 10:30.... He was NOT off center of table as fisher said!
He never moved
He sounds just like the Mercenary from Key and Peele
7:00.....Everyone-"Yo etienne ya we will see you tomorrow! Lol this guy
Allen Fisher needs to take his glasses off he will. He was in the center both times when he and he didn't move when he said he moved to he pulled him past center that dude set up proper. Every time
Gotta call out Fisher compare his arm from where it was to where he said it moved (barely dif) vs where he moved it down c’mon man respect to a Legend but
Did any of you in the comments play sports? Everyone is calling Allen a “pompous ass” and stuff like that. I don’t see the problem with his coaching style. He reminds me of my old high school football coaches. Guy is a world champ, he has a lot of knowledge to share. Some of y’all are soft.
You actually never moved. Kept an eye on the line above the garage and he moved you lower than you were
The miesner technique, chief. That is what you're referring to regarding the 20 questions.
Bro totally made the shit up about you moving your hand.
Allen’s point about chopping is really key. Make sure to pull towards yourself, not torque/twist your arm into your opponent’s arm
Dango dango drill sergeant man.
i love subtle dig on the house. haha
Yeah calm down Allen I have OCD too & you pulled his arm down it's natural twitch reflex is to move up!!
He did not move his hand in the first place,,this man just loves attention and feeds off of it
I’d say Allen isn’t as intuitive as he thinks. Ethan did not move.
He’s in his 70s bro calm down
That peck bit sounded legit
I mean, props to father Allen and all but @1:39 you set up and don't move at all yet he says you do.
How do I know this?
Your hand lines up perfectly with the frame line at the top of the garage and your hand doesn't move.
Slight finger movement, but overall exactly where you set up at.
Then he comes and tries to tug you way down lower than you were when you set up.
Lol
Come on Allen, stop playing. You got the heat, we know it already. No need for that.
Great knowledge though, keep it up.
Yeah, when he said you moved. You didn't
Him and cobra are my all time favorite lightweights!
Both are monsters.
@@kingwillie206 both are fruitcakes. And I mean off the table...
@@TravisJones1979 - You dropped your pants for them?
Allen is so modest 🤟
More like the modest. Preaching to these guys.
I think that’s his way of getting into peoples heads
1:48 he definitely didn't move. Look at where his hand lines up on the house. He kept it pretty steady.
Very informative video tho, thank you for all the info.
Such good content!
The dudes hand didnt move quarter of an inch. Allen Fishers eyes moved. Kinda lost credibility as to what he notices after that point.
That's not where his hand was when dude moved it...
He didn’t move. Dudes a little full of himself for being completely wrong.
Sheesh! Allen is incredibly knowledgeable. No surprise I guess.
This guy destroys people and doesn’t even fully try. Two fingers on grip and no facial expressions all while giving advice. Possible terminator.
Dude ….I see this toon…I’m walking away. It’s really so bad.
Shout out to my boy with the ronas lol
At first I thought it was Jim Carrey from kick ass 2 😮
He never moved his hand he was extremely still look at his alignment with the garage in the background and tell me he moved lol....the gentleman talking is the one that moved his hand just my observation. Not saying the man is wrong in his technique just that his hand never moved at all. Great video great info.
I once beat all my teammates on the football team in elementary school in arm wrestling
That's super impressive 💥
Dude NEVER moved
Guy is seriously tripping about the shoulders being level he even is at an angle at some points.
Et you a good sport cause I know you watched this back thinking tf..
0:48 Master Roshi got tricked into looking. Of course it's out of leveled
Etienne looks a lot like Kyan Douglas about 20 years ago.
slowrato bro, you got it
He said you moved and you didn't. Then he dragged your arm across the table and told you to stay there. THEN he came back and said "What's wrong with his position?" and he said you were set up too far to his side but he's the one who put you there and told you to stay. lol
ETs arm never moved in the beginning.