Prior to this interview, I held immense respect for this psychiatrist . As a psychologist with a background in science, having completed my undergraduate and postgraduate studies at a renowned central university in India, I find it inappropriate that he would suggest that only humanities people are qualified to provide counseling. His statements against humanities people are also inappropriate. While I acknowledge the vital role psychiatrists play in diagnosis and treatment, it's essential to recognize the value of psychologists in counseling. Counseling is not solely about giving advice; it involves administering therapies for various disorders, ranging from anxiety to borderline personality disorder. Therapies such as CBT and DBT have been effective in managing anxiety-related issues and borderline personality disorder. While pharmacotherapy is essential for treating several illnesses, mental health is not a one-person effort. As such, I hope Dhanya can provide a platform that encourages more mental health professionals to share their perspectives and enlighten society.
Having heard the doctor and read the note of the psychologist , I find no reason for the later to feel aggrieved. It is obvious that doctor is referring to a problem which pervasive in the state of Kerala. Just because one individual has excellent credentials in the field of psychology , the problem cannot be wished away. There is certainly lack of awareness and to top it there is this problem many Keralites suffer from that is, he / she knows it all.
Though he is trying to promote Psychiatry, he has indirectly promoted and provoked Psychology. The counseling professionals are not studying medicine but we are intensely trained with elaborate tools to assess minds. We are taught where to draw the line between counseling and referring a client for Medical intervention. Sad to say that this doctor is updated with Neuro but has not seen how equipped is psychology. Completely agree with Jayaram but at the same time, validate @health_psychologist said.
അദ്ദേഹം പറഞ്ഞത് സൈക്കോളജി പഠിക്കാത്ത കണ്ട അച്ഛനും കന്യാസ്ത്രീയും കൗൺസിലിങ് നടത്തുന്നതിനെ കുറിച്ചാണ് . എൻട്രൻസും MBBS , MD തുടങ്ങിയവ എതെണ്ഗിലിും കിട്ടുമായിരുന്നെങ്കിൽ ആരും psychiatry വേണ്ടാന്ന് വെച്ചു സൈക്കോളജിക്ക്‌ പോകില്ല . CBT , DBT is not going to treat bipolar disorder, mania or any thing like that . Psychology is just homeo or Ayurvedam - placebo medicine
Main issue in India is thr is no team work between Psychiatrist, psychologists and medical Social Workers/counselors. Each of them have crucial role in improving the well being of a patient. Psychiatrist have some fixed roles Psychologist have fixed roles and so does counselors.. But their ego's won't let them work as a team. Being a mental health professional and a patient I can say very well that majority of them don't value each other. How many psychiatrist can do therapy? Or counseling? From my personal and professional experience I have seen very very very few, maybe one or two psychiatrist who think of something other than medicines. They just prescribe medicines they won't even tell them the side effects and possible changes which may happen due to medications. Also they won't even take proper history. Just meeting few symptoms from DSM is not sufficient to diagnose. Some times the reason behind those symptoms also have significance role in diagnosis. Most of the Psychiatrist I have seen are always in a rush to finish it off and call other patient. Same applies for psychologists. Most of them won't get into social and emotional aspects of patients problem. They just diagnose and start therapy they won't think outside of textbook. Also in counseling most of the counseling ends as just advice giving. Or offering solutions.. A proper treatment for Mental health issues are 1. Taking proper detailed history. 2. Prescribing Medicines as per diagnosis to influence brain functions 3. Detailed counselling and appropriate therapy to understand the root causes and help and guide the patients to come up with a solution. If these should happen all these professionals should work together. I have seen some Psychiatric departments work like these as a team and make tremendous change in patients.. Let's keep aside everyone's ego first.
Thanks for the video, great content. But I have to disagree with some points said. It is not just humanities students who go for psychology degree but science students as well. I agree psychology is not the solution for many cases. But so is psychiatry.It's a collaborative effort where counselor, clinical psychologist and psychiatrist work together for the mental well being of people. I couldn't grasp if dr's viewpoint came from his distress that people ignore psychiatry due to stigma & pharmacophobia and go for a psychologist instead, or from a belief which underestimates the significance of other mental health professionals. Mental Health cannot be achieved by one man army called" psychiatrist". It is always, & always a team effort and should be able to appreciate that as well.❤
True. Healing is a combination effect ❤ 1. Psychiatrist - neuro side knowledge + medicine prescription 2. Clinical Psychologist - therapy 3. Patient - willingness to unlearn, relearn and heal. 4. Support system - understanding people with no blame, but full support. If these 4 combinations are put together only, any therapy or medication will work.
ഒരു disagreement ഉള്ളത്, എല്ലാം പാരമ്പര്യമായി കിട്ടുന്നതാണ് എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞതിനോടാണ്. Gene വഴി അല്ലാതെയും mental health issues families വഴി transmit ചെയ്യാം. It's called Generational Trauma. For example, നമ്മുടെ grandparent generation class discrimination, war, ഒക്കെ face ചെയ്തവർ ആണ്. അവർ അവരുടെ trauma response behaviours കൈകാര്യം ചെയ്യാൻ പഠിക്കാഞ്ഞത് കൊണ്ട് ആ ദേഷ്യം മുഴുവൻ അവരുടെ partner നോടും മക്കളോടും തീർത്തു. ഒപ്പം പഠിക്കാൻ പറഞ്ഞ് ബഹളം, മറ്റു കുട്ടികളുമായി താരതമ്യം, comparison trauma എന്നിവയും അവർ അഥവാ നമ്മുടെ parent generation നേരിട്ടു. അതുമൂലം തകരാറിലായ അവരുടെ nervous system and brain കൊണ്ട് അവർ നമ്മളെയും അടിച്ചും പീഡിപ്പിച്ചും ഒരു വഴി ആക്കി. അങ്ങനെ നമ്മളിൽ പലരും PTSD പോലെ ഉള്ള conditions അറിയാതെ ജീവിക്കുകയാണ്. അത് പാരമ്പര്യമായി കിട്ടണം എന്നില്ല. അതുകൊണ്ട് ഏത് കുടുംബത്തിൽ ആർക്കും എപ്പോൾ വേണമെങ്കിലും തീരുമാനിച്ച് generational trauma cycle break ചെയ്യാം. അതോടെ നമ്മുടെ neuro plasticity change ആവും. ❤ Trauma changes the brain. So does healing ❤️🙌
@@philipjohnifyok thank you. ❤ I'll read about Epigenetics in detail. But yeah. It's just one part. That's not how the video's caption is also written. That's why I thought of mentioning about other kinds of ways through which mental health issues happen within families. My father had all traits of Narcissistic Personality Disorder (Cluster B) and growing up with him lead to me having Cluster C personality disorders (Dependent, Anxious Avoidant and OCPD). These weren't transmitted via genes. Also most of the unhealthy parenting styles which are considered as healthy by our society/community etc are also leading to personality disorders. So I disagree with saying "എല്ലാ കാര്യങ്ങളും പാരമ്പര്യതയാണ്". @dhanyavarma That's all :)
That's Very True❤ I had experienced the after effects of a Counseling. Only after consulting a Psychiatrist, I came to know what's my problem and how to tackle it❤ Thankyou Dhanya Chechi for these sessions... It's very valid❤
For the kind information:- I am a psychologist who working in a Psychiatric hospital in India. I have been working since last 2 years in this field. As some one who studied till my graduation in kerala and postgraduation in Karnataka i would like to share something. I have scored almost full marks in my 10th boards and 85% in my 12th with science background. Even though everyone else wanted me to take MBBS , i choosed psychology. To give a brief about the syllabus for Bsc psychology it included physiology in all the six semesters after that for my MSc Psychology in continued for next 4 semesters. So i just want to tell ,it's not like psychologists have no idea about the biological part of humanbody. So people who are confused about his statement please understand there are n number of psychologists who comes from humanities, science, commerce background and still studied the physiology and practicing.
There is Umpteen number of I'll trained Psychologists in Kerala who just can't identify a personality disorder.Even I had a chance with psychologist who had a doctorate who couldn't identify it ...Bad doctor is much bad as I'll curable disease.Anyone with a diploma course can be a counsellor .A hell lot of counsellors in schools ,church and every other people.We need proper trained people on this job
Medicines kazchalundakunna side effects pedikunnathu kondaanu kooduthalum alkar willing avaathadhu, athnoru clarity tharaan ivarku patarilla, chilarku nalla dizziness , headaches oke undakarundu ee medicine kazhikumbi as you said ithu brain alle athu kondu thanne anu ellarkum pedi.
Thank you so much Dhanya for this interview. Such open conversations regarding mental health from a professional needs to be shared widely. It’s a relief to know that the root cause of some of the issues we all face in life could actually be linked to a mental health issue which could be solved.
Yes. I lived so many years without knowing I'm traumatized. Then when i turned 30, i got diagnosed with an autoimmune disease called Graves disease. Then also i knew nothing about trauma and mental health issues which comes because of it. Then when i was 31, I got diagnosed with Complex-PTSD and Cluster C personality disorder. And finally taking therapies namely Cognitive Processing Therapy, Schema Therapy and Cognitive Behavioural therapy for it and my life is changing upside down. Everything makes so much sense finally. On medication too. So my thoughts & emotions are much better under regulation, and so behaviour is improving. ❤️I wish everyone gets to this level basic awareness of self and others ❤️
I am taking medicines for depression from the past 4 months.for just a curiosity 2 days i skipped my medicines, my emotions and health shows it🥺.. I got Emotionaly vulnerable and tired. I am really afraid of stop medication and also confused about overcome depression without medicine. One thing medication is the only reason why i am alive today.i am grateful. But otherside i am worrying because i am on medication... Without this i am nothing If anyone suffering with severe mental health issue consult psychiatric and do the needful. It will help you.but don't completely depending on medicine... Do things which makes you heal
please don't skip medicine. Once your system is stabilized, a psychiatrist can slowly reduce the dose and supplement with cognitive therapy and one day you will be able to be free of medication. Sudden stop is not good. please take care.
Hey dear. I'm also someone who's on medication. So a few months ago suddenly I fell ill and was admitted to ICU for some other health issues and during those days, my C-PTSD related medication was stopped, unplanned. Then when I communicated about it, the hospital people restarted it with lower dose. You also might need such a method. No need to panic. Any medicine need to be taken as a "course" actually. My doctor said it's totally ok if we accidentally miss. But when we continue, we need to remember to take half dose first, then continue to the prescribed dose. Then our body will be able to manage the shift. Take care.
@@lithathilakan6657yes, I also took Cognitive Processing Therapy for healing Complex-PTSD. And now taking Schema Therapy and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Cluster C personality disorder. Along with that, taking medication and lots of self-Work too. Plus good support system. That's what's all together helping me heal.
Dr.Philip John യും Ms.Dhanya Varma യുമായുള്ള അഭിമുഖം കേട്ടു. വളരെയധികം ഉപകാരപ്രദമായ രീതിയിൽ ഡോക്ടർ explain ചെതു തന്നു. എന്റെ സഹോദരിയെ ഡോക്ടർ വർഷങ്ങളായി Bi polar എന്ന അസുഖത്തിന് ചികിത്സിയ്ക്കുന്നുണ്ട്. ഇതിൽ mood change ചികിത്സിക്കുന്നുണ്ട്.
This is an issue with many fields in India where doctors do not encourage allied fields such as Physiotherapy Occupational therapy, Speech Language therapy, Psychology etc.. All extensive science based professional courses btw. Learning Disability for example can be beautifully managed with help of professional psychologist, special educator and speech language therapist. But no paediatrician will give a proper referral. Post stroke patients benefit from professional swallowing therapy and speech language therapy but no neurologist will refer. They look at all allied health professionals as the enemy and this is why health system in Kerala has a long way to go.
Good interview. Waiting for next part. Doctor ടെ അറിവുകൾ ഒരുപാട് പേർക്ക് ഉപകാരപ്പെടും. But ഒരു സൈക്കോളജിസ്റ് ആയി ജോലി ചെയ്യുന്ന എനിക്കും ചില disagreement ഉണ്ട്. പത്താം ക്ലാസ്സിൽ മാർക്ക്‌ കുറഞ്ഞവരെയും ഹ്യുമാനിറ്റീസ് എടുത്തവരെയും ഡോക്ടർ പോലെ പത്താം ക്ലാസ്സിൽ നല്ല മാർക്കോട് പാസ്സായ science എടുത്തവരെയും രണ്ടു തട്ടിൽ judge ചെയ്തപോലെ തോന്നി. പത്താം class ഇൽ നല്ല മാർക്കോടെ pass ആയ ഞാൻ science പഠിക്കാതെ സൈക്കോളജിസ്റ് ആയത് തന്നെയാണ്. മാനസിക പ്രശ്നങ്ങൾ ക്ക് psychiatrist, psychologist, clinical psychologist എല്ലാവരുടെയും ടീം work തന്നെ ആവശ്യം വരാറുണ്ട്. മാനസിക രോഗങ്ങളുള്ളവർക്ക് psychiatric ഡോക്ടർസ് നെ suggest ചെയ്തു മാത്രമേ counselling or psychotherapy കൊടുക്കാറുള്ളു. ഹ്യുമാനിറ്റീസ് എടുത്തവർക്ക് മനസ്സിനെയും മനുഷ്യ ജീവിതത്തെയും സ്വാധീനിക്കുന്ന ഒരുപാട് റിസർച്ച് ചെയ്തു തെളിയിക്കപ്പെട്ട തിയറീസ് പിജി ക്കും അല്ലാതെയും പഠിച്ച ശേഷം experienced സൈക്കോളജിസ്റ് ന്റെ supervision എടുത്തു മാത്രം മേ counselling ഉം തെറാപ്പി യും കൊടുക്കാൻ സാധിക്കു.. Science എന്നതിനപ്പുറം ചിന്ത എന്നത് ഒരു വലിയ സബ്ജെക്ട് തന്നെയാ. അത് കൊണ്ട്ആണ് പല philosophers നും ഒരു സമൂഹത്തിന്റെ തന്നെ ചിന്താഗതികൾ മാറ്റം വരുത്താൻ സാധിച്ചിട്ടുണ്ട്. മാനസിക രോഗങ്ങൾ ഉള്ളവർക്കും അല്ലാത്തവർക്കഉം ചിന്ത യെ തിരിച്ചറിയാനും അത് emotions നെയും behaviour നെയും ഏതൊക്കെ രീതിയിൽ സ്വാധീനിക്കുന്നു എന്നൊക്ക പഠിപ്പിക്കാനും അവരുടെ ജീവിതത്തിലെന്നും അത് ഉപകാരപ്പെടാനും സഹായിക്കാൻ ഒരു സൈക്കോളജിസ്റ് നും സാധിക്കും.
Thanking you Dhanya for yet another Stigma breaking topic . This was an eye opener for us Psychology aspirants, what the crabs are doing to let us down and promote medications. Everyone heard loudly and clearly the Stamped Notion .. "Who takes Humanities?" & "Who are Psychologists?" & "Autism Business'.
Kudos to the team for bringing up topics like these...which needs to be discussed.I do have a difference of opinion with Dr.philip Iam a psychologist who works with children diagnosed with childhood disorders.from a psychologist perspective, We dont see psychiatrist as alien from space.we look up to the psychiatrist to look into the biological aspects of brain, the psychiatrist is the right person to refer to a psychologist for counselling. As cited example of dyslexia,Dr. Is right counselling maynot be the right modality of treatment instead there is behavior therapy and Special education which should help the child learn through different suportive techniques. Watching this video somewhere portatryed the speakers bias, Yes difference of opinion exist, but im hoping you will bring in more mental health profesional and help de-mystify alot of myths.
As a clinical psychologist , I have to agree with the good doctor. 3 years of degree and 2 years of Msc, including 6 months of clinical residency is woefully inadequate to successfully understand and treat the human mind
Due to such lack of support all the best allied professionals migrate to other countries leaving everyone grappling with poor infrastructure pf allied health professionals in the state. Which then becomes a vicious circle for parents of children with disabilities as they have to go out of state to seek quality professional allied health services for their children
ഒരുപാട് കാര്യങ്ങളെ കൂട്ടികുഴച്ചാണ് Dr സംസാരിക്കുന്നത്.. ആദ്യം കുറച്ചു പോസിറ്റീവ് പറയാംഅനങ്ങിയൽ കൗൺസിലിംങ്ങന് കൊണ്ട് പോക്ക് / നാക്കിന് നീളം ഉള്ളവൻ ഒക്കെ കൗൺസിലർ എന്ന അവസ്ഥ ഒക്കെ ചോദ്യം ചെയ്യപ്പെടണം. അത് പോലെ Psychiatry മരുന്ന് കളെ കുറിച്ചുള്ള തെറ്റി ധാരണ മാറണം ശാരീരിക അസുഖത്തിന് മരുന്ന് കഴിക്കും പോലെ ആവണം മാനസിക രോഗത്തിന് ഉള്ള മരുന്ന് കഴിക്കുന്നത് എന്ന് സാധാരണ ജനത്തിന് മൻസിൽ ആകണം. ( ചിലത് മാറും, ചിലത് മരുന്ന് കൊണ്ട് മാനേജ് ചെയ്യാം)
In India , Psychiatrists do have so much of ego towards Psychologists. And this Psychiatrist is a representative of such. I dont understand how can he judge this subject called Psychology without even studying about it. He studied MBBS (5 years)+ MD in Psychiatry (3 years) and judging the Psychologists who studied 5 to 7 years of Psychology. One thing is very clear that he don't have much knowledge about Psychology. With this 45 years of experience he defined, " Psychology is just a study of mind". ABSOLUTELY WRONG🚫 "Psychology is the scientific study of human behavior and mental/cognitive process". Nobody claimed that counseling can solve all problems. Psychologists do counseling/ Psychotherapy and Assessments. For the cases which need medicine support we do definitely refer to psychiatrists. But the majority of psychiatrists especially the older generation like him do not refer to psychologists even for mild issues, not all. Which shows the level of "ego" of Psychiatrists. And this is the reason why Indians still having poor mental health overall. Mental health professionals should be a team with cooperation, not egoistic like this Psychiatrist. 😊
It's really disappointing that being a psychologist u don't know that psychological studies are also a part of psychiatry PG course and MBBS.Drugs play a vital role in mental illness .CBT and all are just a part of those treatment regimens.There is a common notion among people that mental illness can only be cured by a psychologist which is a dangerous belief that may even affect the prognosis.They could definitely do a supportive role but can't cure the illness.Counselling is not treatment! .Doctor just clarifies this misconception.
So what you trying to say is that the problem that the doctor referred to doesn’t exist in Kerala ? What scientific study are you basing ,for arriving at the conclusion that poor mental health of Indians result from “ego” of the psychiatrist ? On one hand you proclaim that what you studied is scientific but your sweeping conclusions have hardly anything scientific!
11:36 sir എല്ലാ കാര്യങ്ങളും ഞാൻ അംഗീകരിക്കുന്നു...but that statement about humanities group is not completely correct....mark കുറഞ്ഞത് കൊണ്ട് മാത്രം അല്ല humanities എടുക്കുന്നത്
ഇനിയും ഒരുപാട് പറയാൻ ഉണ്ടു ഒറ്റ ചോദ്യത്തിൽ നിർത്തുന്നു ഈ വീഡിയോ 15 മിനുട് ഉണ്ടു *സാധാരണ ഒരു psychitry Dr സ്വന്തം ക്ലിനിക്കിൽ 15 min ഒരു രോഗിക്ക് കൊടുക്കുമോ*? അപ്പോ പിന്നെ പല രോഗ നിർണയവും തെറ്റില്ല എന്ന് എന്താണ് ഉറപ്പ്. അപ്പോ എപ്പി ജനിസിസ് ഒക്കെ നോക്കാൻ എവിടെ നേരം.. പിന്നെ അപ്പനും അമ്മയും ഒകെ ശ്രമിച്ചാൽ ശരി ആകുന്ന ഏപ്പി ജനിശിസ് ശാസ്ത്രീയ മായി തെറാപ്പി പഠിച്ച ഒരാൾക്ക് ഉണ്ടാക്കാൻ സാധിക്കില്ല ? Dr തന്നെ പറഞ്ഞു മനസു വളരെ സംഗീർണം ആണെന്ന് അപ്പോ അതിൻ്റെ പ്രൊഡക്ട് ആയ ചിന്ത , സ്വഭാവം ഒക്കെ വെറും Epigenesis കൊണ്ട് മാത്രം മാറ്റം വരുമോ..! *നല്ല Environment കിട്ടാതെ പോയ ഒരാൾക്ക് മരുന്ന് കൊണ്ട് മാത്രം അത് നൽകാൻ സാധിക്കുമോ* ഉദാ :300+ സുഗർ ഉള്ള രണ്ടു patients ന് മരുന്ന് നൽകി 140 ന് താഴെ കൊണ്ട് വരുന്ന പോലെ 2 environment നിന്ന് വരുന്ന 2 anxiety patients ൻ്റ് Anxiety ഒരേ ലെവലിൽ എത്തിക്കാൻ സാധിക്കുമോ ..? ഒരു ചോദ്യം എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞു കുറെ ആയി. നമ്മൾ എവിടെ എങ്കിലും വെച്ച് കാണും അപ്പോ ബാക്കി ചോദിക്കാം നല്ലത് മാത്രം വരട്ടെ ഉടൻ തന്നെ ഭരത് രത്ന കിട്ടട്ടെ ( അതിനുള്ള ചിലത് ഇടയിൽ നല്ലോണം ഫിറ്റ് ചെയ്തിട്ടുണ്ട് )
Most of the psychologists are just listening. They won't even allow the partner of the patient to talk. Few psychologists take data solely from the patient, not talking to the patient's friends or relatives even if the patient wanted it.
Prior to this interview, I held immense respect for this psychiatrist . As a psychologist with a background in science, having completed my undergraduate and postgraduate studies at a renowned central university in India, I find it inappropriate that he would suggest that only humanities people are qualified to provide counseling. His statements against humanities people are also inappropriate. While I acknowledge the vital role psychiatrists play in diagnosis and treatment, it's essential to recognize the value of psychologists in counseling. Counseling is not solely about giving advice; it involves administering therapies for various disorders, ranging from anxiety to borderline personality disorder. Therapies such as CBT and DBT have been effective in managing anxiety-related issues and borderline personality disorder. While pharmacotherapy is essential for treating several illnesses, mental health is not a one-person effort. As such, I hope Dhanya can provide a platform that encourages more mental health professionals to share their perspectives and enlighten society.
Having heard the doctor and read the note of the psychologist , I find no reason for the later to feel aggrieved. It is obvious that doctor is referring to a problem which pervasive in the state of Kerala.
Just because one individual has excellent credentials in the field of psychology , the problem cannot be wished away. There is certainly lack of awareness and to top it there is this problem many Keralites suffer from that is, he / she knows it all.
താങ്കൾ പറഞ്ഞ കാര്യങ്ങളെ കുറച്ചു കൂടി ലളിതമായി ചില coment കളിൽ ഞാൻ add ചെയ്തിട്ടുണ്ട്
I agree to Jayaram.
Though he is trying to promote Psychiatry, he has indirectly promoted and provoked Psychology. The counseling professionals are not studying medicine but we are intensely trained with elaborate tools to assess minds. We are taught where to draw the line between counseling and referring a client for Medical intervention. Sad to say that this doctor is updated with Neuro but has not seen how equipped is psychology.
Completely agree with Jayaram but at the same time, validate @health_psychologist said.
അദ്ദേഹം പറഞ്ഞത് സൈക്കോളജി പഠിക്കാത്ത കണ്ട അച്ഛനും കന്യാസ്ത്രീയും കൗൺസിലിങ് നടത്തുന്നതിനെ കുറിച്ചാണ് . എൻട്രൻസും MBBS , MD തുടങ്ങിയവ എതെണ്ഗിലിും കിട്ടുമായിരുന്നെങ്കിൽ ആരും psychiatry വേണ്ടാന്ന് വെച്ചു സൈക്കോളജിക്ക്‌ പോകില്ല . CBT , DBT is not going to treat bipolar disorder, mania or any thing like that . Psychology is just homeo or Ayurvedam - placebo medicine
Main issue in India is thr is no team work between Psychiatrist, psychologists and medical Social Workers/counselors. Each of them have crucial role in improving the well being of a patient. Psychiatrist have some fixed roles Psychologist have fixed roles and so does counselors.. But their ego's won't let them work as a team. Being a mental health professional and a patient I can say very well that majority of them don't value each other. How many psychiatrist can do therapy? Or counseling? From my personal and professional experience I have seen very very very few, maybe one or two psychiatrist who think of something other than medicines. They just prescribe medicines they won't even tell them the side effects and possible changes which may happen due to medications. Also they won't even take proper history. Just meeting few symptoms from DSM is not sufficient to diagnose. Some times the reason behind those symptoms also have significance role in diagnosis. Most of the Psychiatrist I have seen are always in a rush to finish it off and call other patient. Same applies for psychologists. Most of them won't get into social and emotional aspects of patients problem. They just diagnose and start therapy they won't think outside of textbook. Also in counseling most of the counseling ends as just advice giving. Or offering solutions.. A proper treatment for Mental health issues are
1. Taking proper detailed history.
2. Prescribing Medicines as per diagnosis to influence brain functions
3. Detailed counselling and appropriate therapy to understand the root causes and help and guide the patients to come up with a solution.
If these should happen all these professionals should work together. I have seen some Psychiatric departments work like these as a team and make tremendous change in patients..
Let's keep aside everyone's ego first.
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Thanks for the video, great content. But I have to disagree with some points said. It is not just humanities students who go for psychology degree but science students as well. I agree psychology is not the solution for many cases. But so is psychiatry.It's a collaborative effort where counselor, clinical psychologist and psychiatrist work together for the mental well being of people. I couldn't grasp if dr's viewpoint came from his distress that people ignore psychiatry due to stigma & pharmacophobia and go for a psychologist instead, or from a belief which underestimates the significance of other mental health professionals.
Mental Health cannot be achieved by one man army called" psychiatrist". It is always, & always a team effort and should be able to appreciate that as well.❤
True. Healing is a combination effect ❤
1. Psychiatrist - neuro side knowledge + medicine prescription
2. Clinical Psychologist - therapy
3. Patient - willingness to unlearn, relearn and heal.
4. Support system - understanding people with no blame, but full support.
If these 4 combinations are put together only, any therapy or medication will work.
ഒരു disagreement ഉള്ളത്, എല്ലാം പാരമ്പര്യമായി കിട്ടുന്നതാണ് എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞതിനോടാണ്. Gene വഴി അല്ലാതെയും mental health issues families വഴി transmit ചെയ്യാം. It's called Generational Trauma. For example, നമ്മുടെ grandparent generation class discrimination, war, ഒക്കെ face ചെയ്തവർ ആണ്. അവർ അവരുടെ trauma response behaviours കൈകാര്യം ചെയ്യാൻ പഠിക്കാഞ്ഞത് കൊണ്ട് ആ ദേഷ്യം മുഴുവൻ അവരുടെ partner നോടും മക്കളോടും തീർത്തു. ഒപ്പം പഠിക്കാൻ പറഞ്ഞ് ബഹളം, മറ്റു കുട്ടികളുമായി താരതമ്യം, comparison trauma എന്നിവയും അവർ അഥവാ നമ്മുടെ parent generation നേരിട്ടു. അതുമൂലം തകരാറിലായ അവരുടെ nervous system and brain കൊണ്ട് അവർ നമ്മളെയും അടിച്ചും പീഡിപ്പിച്ചും ഒരു വഴി ആക്കി. അങ്ങനെ നമ്മളിൽ പലരും PTSD പോലെ ഉള്ള conditions അറിയാതെ ജീവിക്കുകയാണ്. അത് പാരമ്പര്യമായി കിട്ടണം എന്നില്ല. അതുകൊണ്ട് ഏത് കുടുംബത്തിൽ ആർക്കും എപ്പോൾ വേണമെങ്കിലും തീരുമാനിച്ച് generational trauma cycle break ചെയ്യാം. അതോടെ നമ്മുടെ neuro plasticity change ആവും. ❤
Trauma changes the brain. So does healing ❤️🙌
That he told ... regarding epigenetics, plasticity... which he said is more important..
Genes are one part. Pls listen to Epigenetics : Gene- environment interactions and their effects on mental health…
@@reenarenjit2360I was actually talking to Dhanya too. See the caption of the video :)
@@philipjohnifyok thank you. ❤ I'll read about Epigenetics in detail.
But yeah. It's just one part. That's not how the video's caption is also written. That's why I thought of mentioning about other kinds of ways through which mental health issues happen within families. My father had all traits of Narcissistic Personality Disorder (Cluster B) and growing up with him lead to me having Cluster C personality disorders (Dependent, Anxious Avoidant and OCPD). These weren't transmitted via genes. Also most of the unhealthy parenting styles which are considered as healthy by our society/community etc are also leading to personality disorders. So I disagree with saying "എല്ലാ കാര്യങ്ങളും പാരമ്പര്യതയാണ്". @dhanyavarma That's all :)
That's Very True❤ I had experienced the after effects of a Counseling. Only after consulting a Psychiatrist, I came to know what's my problem and how to tackle it❤ Thankyou Dhanya Chechi for these sessions... It's very valid❤
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Very Very talented doctor. God bless you doctor. Only because of his medicine & treatment our kid started walking at the age of 5 (with in one month)
For the kind information:-
I am a psychologist who working in a Psychiatric hospital in India. I have been working since last 2 years in this field.
As some one who studied till my graduation in kerala and postgraduation in Karnataka i would like to share something.
I have scored almost full marks in my 10th boards and 85% in my 12th with science background.
Even though everyone else wanted me to take MBBS , i choosed psychology.
To give a brief about the syllabus for Bsc psychology it included physiology in all the six semesters after that for my MSc Psychology in continued for next 4 semesters.
So i just want to tell ,it's not like psychologists have no idea about the biological part of humanbody.
So people who are confused about his statement please understand there are n number of psychologists who comes from humanities, science, commerce background and still studied the physiology and practicing.
❤❤ Excellent. Hope Dhanya takes time to read all our comments
Exactly
Without Physiology Psychology is not complete.
Becoz,
Philosophy +Physiology = Psychology
There is Umpteen number of I'll trained Psychologists in Kerala who just can't identify a personality disorder.Even I had a chance with psychologist who had a doctorate who couldn't identify it ...Bad doctor is much bad as I'll curable disease.Anyone with a diploma course can be a counsellor .A hell lot of counsellors in schools ,church and every other people.We need proper trained people on this job
Medicines kazchalundakunna side effects pedikunnathu kondaanu kooduthalum alkar willing avaathadhu, athnoru clarity tharaan ivarku patarilla, chilarku nalla dizziness , headaches oke undakarundu ee medicine kazhikumbi as you said ithu brain alle athu kondu thanne anu ellarkum pedi.
Thank you so much Dhanya for this interview. Such open conversations regarding mental health from a professional needs to be shared widely. It’s a relief to know that the root cause of some of the issues we all face in life could actually be linked to a mental health issue which could be solved.
Yes. I lived so many years without knowing I'm traumatized. Then when i turned 30, i got diagnosed with an autoimmune disease called Graves disease. Then also i knew nothing about trauma and mental health issues which comes because of it. Then when i was 31, I got diagnosed with Complex-PTSD and Cluster C personality disorder. And finally taking therapies namely Cognitive Processing Therapy, Schema Therapy and Cognitive Behavioural therapy for it and my life is changing upside down. Everything makes so much sense finally. On medication too. So my thoughts & emotions are much better under regulation, and so behaviour is improving. ❤️I wish everyone gets to this level basic awareness of self and others ❤️
@@hertravelstories 🤗🤗🤗
Dr.Explained a wide topic in a way that ordinary persons can understand.He is such a great man .Thank you Dhanya
I am taking medicines for depression from the past 4 months.for just a curiosity
2 days i skipped my medicines, my emotions and health shows it🥺.. I got Emotionaly vulnerable and tired. I am really afraid of stop medication and also confused about overcome depression without medicine.
One thing medication is the only reason why i am alive today.i am grateful. But otherside i am worrying because i am on medication... Without this i am nothing
If anyone suffering with severe mental health issue consult psychiatric and do the needful. It will help you.but don't completely depending on medicine... Do things which makes you heal
please don't skip medicine. Once your system is stabilized, a psychiatrist can slowly reduce the dose and supplement with cognitive therapy and one day you will be able to be free of medication. Sudden stop is not good. please take care.
Hey dear. I'm also someone who's on medication. So a few months ago suddenly I fell ill and was admitted to ICU for some other health issues and during those days, my C-PTSD related medication was stopped, unplanned. Then when I communicated about it, the hospital people restarted it with lower dose. You also might need such a method. No need to panic. Any medicine need to be taken as a "course" actually. My doctor said it's totally ok if we accidentally miss. But when we continue, we need to remember to take half dose first, then continue to the prescribed dose. Then our body will be able to manage the shift. Take care.
@@lithathilakan6657yes, I also took Cognitive Processing Therapy for healing Complex-PTSD. And now taking Schema Therapy and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Cluster C personality disorder. Along with that, taking medication and lots of self-Work too. Plus good support system. That's what's all together helping me heal.
@@lithathilakan6657 thankyou🫂❤️
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Dr.Philip John യും Ms.Dhanya Varma യുമായുള്ള അഭിമുഖം കേട്ടു. വളരെയധികം ഉപകാരപ്രദമായ രീതിയിൽ ഡോക്ടർ explain ചെതു തന്നു. എന്റെ സഹോദരിയെ ഡോക്ടർ വർഷങ്ങളായി Bi polar എന്ന അസുഖത്തിന് ചികിത്സിയ്ക്കുന്നുണ്ട്. ഇതിൽ mood change
ചികിത്സിക്കുന്നുണ്ട്.
എവിടെയാണ് ഡോക്ടർ കൺസൾട്ട്
This is an issue with many fields in India where doctors do not encourage allied fields such as Physiotherapy Occupational therapy, Speech Language therapy, Psychology etc.. All extensive science based professional courses btw. Learning Disability for example can be beautifully managed with help of professional psychologist, special educator and speech language therapist. But no paediatrician will give a proper referral. Post stroke patients benefit from professional swallowing therapy and speech language therapy but no neurologist will refer. They look at all allied health professionals as the enemy and this is why health system in Kerala has a long way to go.
Very true.. the consultants do not realise it’s a team work for patient’s all round benefit.
Good interview. Waiting for next part. Doctor ടെ അറിവുകൾ ഒരുപാട് പേർക്ക് ഉപകാരപ്പെടും. But ഒരു സൈക്കോളജിസ്റ് ആയി ജോലി ചെയ്യുന്ന എനിക്കും ചില disagreement ഉണ്ട്. പത്താം ക്ലാസ്സിൽ മാർക്ക്‌ കുറഞ്ഞവരെയും ഹ്യുമാനിറ്റീസ് എടുത്തവരെയും ഡോക്ടർ പോലെ പത്താം ക്ലാസ്സിൽ നല്ല മാർക്കോട് പാസ്സായ science എടുത്തവരെയും രണ്ടു തട്ടിൽ judge ചെയ്തപോലെ തോന്നി. പത്താം class ഇൽ നല്ല മാർക്കോടെ pass ആയ ഞാൻ science പഠിക്കാതെ സൈക്കോളജിസ്റ് ആയത് തന്നെയാണ്. മാനസിക പ്രശ്നങ്ങൾ ക്ക് psychiatrist, psychologist, clinical psychologist എല്ലാവരുടെയും ടീം work തന്നെ ആവശ്യം വരാറുണ്ട്. മാനസിക രോഗങ്ങളുള്ളവർക്ക് psychiatric ഡോക്ടർസ് നെ suggest ചെയ്തു മാത്രമേ counselling or psychotherapy കൊടുക്കാറുള്ളു. ഹ്യുമാനിറ്റീസ് എടുത്തവർക്ക് മനസ്സിനെയും മനുഷ്യ ജീവിതത്തെയും സ്വാധീനിക്കുന്ന ഒരുപാട് റിസർച്ച് ചെയ്തു തെളിയിക്കപ്പെട്ട തിയറീസ് പിജി ക്കും അല്ലാതെയും പഠിച്ച ശേഷം experienced സൈക്കോളജിസ്റ് ന്റെ supervision എടുത്തു മാത്രം മേ counselling ഉം തെറാപ്പി യും കൊടുക്കാൻ സാധിക്കു.. Science എന്നതിനപ്പുറം ചിന്ത എന്നത് ഒരു വലിയ സബ്ജെക്ട് തന്നെയാ. അത് കൊണ്ട്ആണ് പല philosophers നും ഒരു സമൂഹത്തിന്റെ തന്നെ ചിന്താഗതികൾ മാറ്റം വരുത്താൻ സാധിച്ചിട്ടുണ്ട്. മാനസിക രോഗങ്ങൾ ഉള്ളവർക്കും അല്ലാത്തവർക്കഉം ചിന്ത യെ തിരിച്ചറിയാനും അത് emotions നെയും behaviour നെയും ഏതൊക്കെ രീതിയിൽ സ്വാധീനിക്കുന്നു എന്നൊക്ക പഠിപ്പിക്കാനും അവരുടെ ജീവിതത്തിലെന്നും അത് ഉപകാരപ്പെടാനും സഹായിക്കാൻ ഒരു സൈക്കോളജിസ്റ് നും സാധിക്കും.
Social phobia,shyness pole ulla issues nu psychologistinte aduth poya pore?
Plz rply
Medicine edukanda avshym undo?
According to Intensity. Social phobia ano anxiety ano ennu diagnose cheyyan psychiatrist or clinical psychologist Anu nallath
@@hannathpm1638 ok..thankuu
@@hannathpm1638 nammudea manushyanta (human)manass eavidea eann parjutharamo
Thanking you Dhanya for yet another Stigma breaking topic . This was an eye opener for us Psychology aspirants, what the crabs are doing to let us down and promote medications. Everyone heard loudly and clearly the Stamped Notion .. "Who takes Humanities?" & "Who are Psychologists?" & "Autism Business'.
Kudos to the team for bringing up topics like these...which needs to be discussed.I do have a difference of opinion with Dr.philip
Iam a psychologist who works with children diagnosed with childhood disorders.from a psychologist perspective, We dont see psychiatrist as alien from space.we look up to the psychiatrist to look into the biological aspects of brain, the psychiatrist is the right person to refer to a psychologist for counselling. As cited example of dyslexia,Dr. Is right counselling maynot be the right modality of treatment instead there is behavior therapy and Special education which should help the child learn through different suportive techniques.
Watching this video somewhere portatryed the speakers bias, Yes difference of opinion exist, but im hoping you will bring in more mental health profesional and help de-mystify alot of myths.
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10th il mark illathavar maatram pokunnathaano humanities, enthoru vikalamaaya chinthayaado , njaan 10th il distinction undaayirunna, science subjects il better score nediya aalaanu, njaan social subjects nodulla ishtam kondaanu humanities choose cheytath.Ezhutaan kazhiyatha learning disability de peraanu dysgraphia allathe dyslexia alla, athu reading difficulty aanu.
Thankyou for pointing it out...so true
Humanities ne kurichu angane oru dharana pandu undayirunu, atleast until 2000. Sir aa karyamanu paranjathu.
As a clinical psychologist , I have to agree with the good doctor. 3 years of degree and 2 years of Msc, including 6 months of clinical residency is woefully inadequate to successfully understand and treat the human mind
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Nice interview 💯 waiting next part... Thank you mam 🙏 doctor very clearly explained everything ❤️
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I haven't watched such an intelligent interview yet, honestly!
Due to such lack of support all the best allied professionals migrate to other countries leaving everyone grappling with poor infrastructure pf allied health professionals in the state. Which then becomes a vicious circle for parents of children with disabilities as they have to go out of state to seek quality professional allied health services for their children
Psychology is scientific study of human behaviour and cognitive processes,
Which is scientific
Kerathilae parentsinodu avarudae agrahathinu virudhamayi especially career choicilum life partnerinae thiranjedukkunnathilum paranjal avar udanae counselinginu kondu pokum.
How true!!
Really intresting and informative 👌👌❣️ waiting for part 3
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Great job Dhanya Varma..The most informative interview...Dr u r amazing ❤
Thanks dhayana i think one of the best episode you did this season ❤❤❤
dhanya mam you created a platform to present their wisdom, once it started once it overflowing from legends just let them be ❤,❤❤
Wow. Very well explained with clarity and confidence . Waiting for next part
Thank you for the informative interview..hosting this excellent doctor..❤
Nice presentation sir. Iam one year junior to you in chottanikkara school. Iam a clinical linguist.
ഒരുപാട് കാര്യങ്ങളെ കൂട്ടികുഴച്ചാണ് Dr സംസാരിക്കുന്നത്..
ആദ്യം കുറച്ചു പോസിറ്റീവ് പറയാംഅനങ്ങിയൽ കൗൺസിലിംങ്ങന് കൊണ്ട് പോക്ക് /
നാക്കിന് നീളം ഉള്ളവൻ ഒക്കെ കൗൺസിലർ എന്ന അവസ്ഥ ഒക്കെ ചോദ്യം ചെയ്യപ്പെടണം.
അത് പോലെ Psychiatry മരുന്ന് കളെ കുറിച്ചുള്ള തെറ്റി ധാരണ മാറണം
ശാരീരിക അസുഖത്തിന് മരുന്ന് കഴിക്കും പോലെ ആവണം മാനസിക രോഗത്തിന് ഉള്ള മരുന്ന് കഴിക്കുന്നത് എന്ന് സാധാരണ ജനത്തിന് മൻസിൽ ആകണം. ( ചിലത് മാറും, ചിലത് മരുന്ന് കൊണ്ട് മാനേജ് ചെയ്യാം)
Excellent conversation..
Such interesting conversation. I wish the whole thing was released at once.
Excellent conversation
Thank you so much ma'am.. Huge respect to Dr. Philip
Thanks for not bringing film actors
Thank you so much Dhanya for this choice, both the topic and the Dr.
Thank you…👍🏻…absolutely informative and enjoyed every minute
An eye opening and informative session❤
Love your interviews
Sathyanandhara കാലഘട്ടത്തിലെ സൈക്കോ തെറാപ്പി ❤
Thank you so much sir for educating us🙏🏻 Thank you so much Dhanyechi🙏🏻
In India , Psychiatrists do have so much of ego towards Psychologists.
And this Psychiatrist is a representative of such.
I dont understand how can he judge this subject called Psychology without even studying about it.
He studied MBBS (5 years)+ MD in Psychiatry (3 years) and judging the Psychologists who studied 5 to 7 years of Psychology.
One thing is very clear that he don't have much knowledge about Psychology. With this 45 years of experience he defined,
" Psychology is just a study of mind".
ABSOLUTELY WRONG🚫
"Psychology is the scientific study of human behavior and mental/cognitive process".
Nobody claimed that counseling can solve all problems. Psychologists do counseling/ Psychotherapy and Assessments. For the cases which need medicine support we do definitely refer to psychiatrists.
But the majority of psychiatrists especially the older generation like him do not refer to psychologists even for mild issues, not all.
Which shows the level of "ego" of Psychiatrists. And this is the reason why Indians still having poor mental health overall.
Mental health professionals should be a team with cooperation, not egoistic like this Psychiatrist. 😊
True. Completely agree. See the thumbnail of this video
Well said
He his actually have dont know who is psychologist
It's really disappointing that being a psychologist u don't know that psychological studies are also a part of psychiatry PG course and MBBS.Drugs play a vital role in mental illness .CBT and all are just a part of those treatment regimens.There is a common notion among people that mental illness can only be cured by a psychologist which is a dangerous belief that may even affect the prognosis.They could definitely do a supportive role but can't cure the illness.Counselling is not treatment!
.Doctor just clarifies this misconception.
Trueeee
So what you trying to say is that the problem that the doctor referred to doesn’t exist in Kerala ? What scientific study are you basing ,for arriving at the conclusion that poor mental health of Indians result from “ego” of the psychiatrist ? On one hand you proclaim that what you studied is scientific but your sweeping conclusions have hardly anything scientific!
Very open and informative talk ❤
Really informative ❤
God bless you,😊
Very informative
Thankyou 🥰
Intersting & informative 👍
Pathanamthitta District il ulla oru Nalla psychiatrist ne suggest cheyiyumo?
Thank you mam ❤
Excellent👍
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Ithra Science paranjitt "By the grace of God" ennu paranju Kalam udachu kanjallo achaachaa... 🤪
Thank you Dhanya for giving such an informative interview. Really very nice to hear the down to earth conversation of the great man
Please upload next part
11:36 sir എല്ലാ കാര്യങ്ങളും ഞാൻ അംഗീകരിക്കുന്നു...but that statement about humanities group is not completely correct....mark കുറഞ്ഞത് കൊണ്ട് മാത്രം അല്ല humanities എടുക്കുന്നത്
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Very informative session and the need of the hour ,as now every tom dick n harry claims to be a psychologist and starts so called "counseling"..
ഇനിയും ഒരുപാട് പറയാൻ ഉണ്ടു
ഒറ്റ ചോദ്യത്തിൽ നിർത്തുന്നു
ഈ വീഡിയോ 15 മിനുട് ഉണ്ടു
*സാധാരണ ഒരു psychitry Dr സ്വന്തം ക്ലിനിക്കിൽ 15 min ഒരു രോഗിക്ക് കൊടുക്കുമോ*?
അപ്പോ പിന്നെ പല രോഗ നിർണയവും തെറ്റില്ല എന്ന് എന്താണ് ഉറപ്പ്.
അപ്പോ എപ്പി ജനിസിസ് ഒക്കെ നോക്കാൻ എവിടെ നേരം..
പിന്നെ അപ്പനും അമ്മയും ഒകെ ശ്രമിച്ചാൽ ശരി ആകുന്ന ഏപ്പി ജനിശിസ് ശാസ്ത്രീയ മായി തെറാപ്പി പഠിച്ച ഒരാൾക്ക് ഉണ്ടാക്കാൻ സാധിക്കില്ല ?
Dr തന്നെ പറഞ്ഞു മനസു വളരെ സംഗീർണം ആണെന്ന്
അപ്പോ അതിൻ്റെ പ്രൊഡക്ട് ആയ ചിന്ത , സ്വഭാവം ഒക്കെ വെറും Epigenesis കൊണ്ട് മാത്രം മാറ്റം വരുമോ..!
*നല്ല Environment കിട്ടാതെ പോയ ഒരാൾക്ക് മരുന്ന് കൊണ്ട് മാത്രം അത് നൽകാൻ സാധിക്കുമോ*
ഉദാ :300+ സുഗർ ഉള്ള രണ്ടു patients ന് മരുന്ന് നൽകി 140 ന് താഴെ കൊണ്ട് വരുന്ന പോലെ
2 environment നിന്ന് വരുന്ന 2 anxiety patients ൻ്റ് Anxiety ഒരേ ലെവലിൽ എത്തിക്കാൻ സാധിക്കുമോ ..?
ഒരു ചോദ്യം എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞു കുറെ ആയി.
നമ്മൾ എവിടെ എങ്കിലും വെച്ച് കാണും അപ്പോ ബാക്കി ചോദിക്കാം
നല്ലത് മാത്രം വരട്ടെ
ഉടൻ തന്നെ ഭരത് രത്ന കിട്ടട്ടെ
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Thankyou so much ma'am
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Next part please..
Most of the psychologists are just listening. They won't even allow the partner of the patient to talk. Few psychologists take data solely from the patient, not talking to the patient's friends or relatives even if the patient wanted it.
Please ask about Transgender issues...... Treatable or not......
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