Yes, because a whole camp united and campaigned for its inclusion. Crash is not likely to have fans who 'adore' the picture or campaign for its inclusion. However, uncomfortable films often make into the National Registry...such as 'Silence of the Lambs', which did not have feminist groups or serial killer fanatics writing letters and campaigning on its behalf. It just stumbled into the registry on its merits.
When one considers people exercising their right to not see (or see) any film by free choice, and that all members of the Academy in all branches get to vote for Best Picture, those who chose not to see it or would not vote for it (for any reason) make up a negligible minority of Academy members, so they had little to no effect on the result of the final tabulations. It's highly likely that those who voted for for film because of its subject matter would have been cancelled out by those those voted against it, so the result was very unlikely to have been tainted by either side. While I often disagree with the Academy's choice for Best Picture, I also agreed the year that Shakespeare in Love won the award. People whined and threw hate all over the film, just like they did when Marisa Tomei won for Best Supporting Actress one year. The ballots were cast and the winner was the winner. If you don't like the Academy members' choices, then just don't watch the Oscars, or the SAGs, or the BAFTAs or the Globes. But some people have an obsession with trophies and fame so they can't help themselves, the poor devils.
@@ArefinSiddiquee It's amazing how everyone's opinion is wrong or useless if it's not the same as yours. Enjoy your misery--it's just a damned movie, and what does it really matter? Thankfully, you can't make everyone clones of yourself. AND you are assuming that I'm not gay myself. How much more self-involved can you possibly be? Lastly, why are you reading comments at all when you obviously have lumped everyone into groups so you can label them and misunderstand everything. People will vote the way they want for whatever reasons they want, and the last thing they are obligated to do is justify themselves to YOU, you fascist asshole.
What ABOUT the so-called fact that we ALL agreed (when so many members of the 'WE' did not agree at all). Someone needs to study the use of the words 'fact' and 'all' before they employ them.
I would love to see the 85th or the 90th Academy Awards covered especially. Nonetheless, regardless of the years you pick, please continue feeding the children by making these retrospectives into the future.
I agree with 90th, I love that race between Shape of Water and Three Billboards (with Get Out as a potential spoiler), especially since they were both Fox Searchlight. It’s also pretty interesting to go back and look into the outcome for Phantom Thread. 30 years from now people will just accept that it was nominated, not knowing that it wasn’t at all expected, and for Director it wasn’t even in the conversation.
Diego Pisfil I’m not saying I think they were the most deserving, I just enjoyed the race between the two of them. If anything I think Get Out and Phantom Thread were the most deserving of the nominees.
@Diego Pisfil @Keith MacDonald The fact that the merits of several films can be discussed like this as Best Picture contenders in itself makes that year's Oscars race quite intriguing to me (my personal favourites were Get Out and Three Billboards but I'm not mad at Shape of Water) Looking back at (I believe) an old Mark Kermode video, I see that he thought Lesley Manville would win Best Supporting Actress and look how that turned out; the nominees in that category in particular also seemed quite competitive and interesting.
1. Crash winning the top prize was just sad. The movie was also listed as one of the worst of the year by MSN critics. Weirdly, when Moonlight won, I thought "thank you, this makes up a bit for the Brokeback Mountain loss", which is not fair considering La La Land is better than Crash by miles. EVEN PAUL HAGGIS ADMITTED HIS MOVIE SHOULDN'T HAVE WON AGAINST BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN. 2. Just like this year (2020), the Best Actor lineup is one of the strongest seen in a while. I too agree Heath Ledger was the runner up, though. 3. I think that George Clooney's year propelled him to Oscar glory that night. 4. I'm sure Felicity Huffman was the runner up in the Best Actress category. What a performance! 5. I bought the OST for Brokeback Mountain and I have to say, it is gorgeous. I'm glad it had that surprise win in the Best Original Score category.
True. A poll made in the early 2010s have shown that Brokeback Mountain should've won but conservatives in America were like, "Ewwww." They were spreading homophobia even when Heath Ledger died. Jake remembers Heath hating the homophobia as he found the film very special to his heart.
Of course Haggis would say that: he's Canadian, after all. We all are often gallingly over-modest. As for the Best Score, it deserved it because if you ever get a chance to watch the film without the music, it will bore you to death.
la la land was a good movie but im really happy moonlight took it bc 1. i like it more 2. its redemption for brokeback and 3. i hate when hollywood circle jerk films win major awards (even if they deserve it)-- it always just feels like bait to me and will only win BECAUSE its about hollywood
Yeah, that's complete nonsense. Hoffmann won Best Actor that year for playing a gay man, and William Hurt had won the same award 20 YEARS before for playing a gay man. The idea that if an actor is gay, or plays a gay character, and should automatically win because of that is ridiculous, just as ludicrous as it is to say that a film showing a gay relationship should automatically win for Best Picture. Dustin Black won for Best Original Screenplay three years after BM not because he was gay or the protagonist of the film was gay, but because of the five scripts that year, his was the best ('In Bruges' was very good, but not as good as 'Milk'). As hard as it may be for people steeped in their own sexuality, not every voter even thinks of sexuality (or politics or religion) when they vote for any film...sometimes votes are for films that make the viewers feel good, or in the case of truly original themes, films that make them feel something they have never felt before. Just like with TV shows, first and foremost we like the people we see.
Watched Brokeback for the first time a few years ago and thought it was a bit boring, but I rewatched last week and it’s a bloody masterpiece one of the best movies of that decade
kacper xyx this year (2019) was also superb, and we still had De Niro, Pattisom, Murphy, Sandler and Egerton Out. Any one of those would, for exemple, be easily nominated any year.
Great analysis. This Retrospective segment is really interesting and please do more of these in the future. It's sad that BM couldn't win Best Picture, but it doesn't matter now as more people have watched and loved it over the years! And Philip Seymour Hoffman really deserved the Lead Actor Oscar even though both Heath Ledger & Joaquin Phoenix were phenomenal. And amazing video as always. Keep it up! P.S - So that means both Ledger & Phoenix were nominated together in the same category years before they would win for portraying the iconic character of "Joker". Isn't that something?
Let's do 1999 the year Shakespeare in Love won over Saving Private Ryan, Gwyneth Paltrow over Cate Blanchett. That would be awesome. And please, with Brother Bro too.
Check out Be Kind Rewind's video on this. She shows how Weinstein not only got the film to win the best picture and best actress but created the modern-day Oscar campaigning season.
@@ErickGarcia-qs2yh Indeed. Although I love the film Life Is Beautiful, the Weinstein connection may ruin that or make me view Hollywood under a critical lens that it's always elitist. No wonder Hayao Miyazaki threatened to hurt him if Weinstein asked to cut Princess Mononoke for international distribution by sending a sword to him. www.indiewire.com/2020/06/harvey-weinstein-threatened-studio-ghibli-mononoke-runtime-1202236275/
i was reading some articles about crashs reception and you dont realize how bad a movie has to be with race relations for multiple articles to say the message was dated/out of touch in *2005*
Would love to see you cover the 88th academy awards . Carol not being nominated for BP and rooney mara being nominated in supporting. Also Sylvester Stallone not winning best supporting
Great retrospective. I still remember first seeing Brokeback Mountain in a cinema and how it stayed with me. I was so angry when it lost. I’ve never rewatched Crash out of bitterness. Provably the Oscar loss that most annoys me.
@@Chris-vs6ll why am I a bigot because I preferred Brokeback Mountain to Crash and think Brokeback should’ve won Best Picture? I thought that was the better film.
@@Chris-vs6ll you wrote if you’re not a complete bigot you’ll be moved by it, implying I was because I’d said I preferred the other film. I didn’t even say I didn’t like, purely that I was annoyed my preferred one lost. So yes, suggesting someone is a bigot for simply saying they enjoyed a film is rude.
@@Chris-vs6ll this is ridiculous. I have nothing to clear my name about. I said I enjoyed one film more than another decades ago. I still think the other should’ve won (as does the the director of Crash by the way). I didn’t say I didn’t like it. I didn’t say I wasn’t moved by it. I simply said I was annoyed my preferred winner lost. You implied that made me a bigot, which makes zero sense. Some people prefer other films to other people. Why you had to turn this in to something nasty against someone you don’t even know, I have no idea.
You guys should look into the 1999 or 2012 awards seasons (as in the 1999 and 2012 movies, ala American Beauty and Argo). Lots to be discussed in those years, ranging from Ben Affleck’s Director Snub, Sam Mendes winning everything BUT the BAFTA, Brave vs Wreck it Ralph, Christoph Waltz upsetting Tommy Lee Jones for Supporting Actor, Annette Bening losing to Hilary Swank, so on and so forth. Looking forward to more of these!!!
Thank you for this. There was no cat cameo (ca-meow) this time. But there was some evidence of recent cat activity on The Oscar Expert's shirt there. I appreciate it.
I just want to say that I'm very happy Brokeback Mountain won Best Score over Memoirs because that score (specifically the track Sayuri's Theme) sounds REALLY similar to the score for Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. I don't know if I'm the only person who thinks this, but listen to the main theme for Crouching Tiger and then listen to Sayuri's Theme. They sound really similar.
It's mathematics at work, not homophobia. I chose Crash that year, and I also bet on Crash that year and won the bet, just as I have most years. Out of the 510 movies in history nominated for Best Picture, only 42 times did the winner of Best Adapted Screenplay go on to also win Best Picture. Simple arithmetic.
The acting categories were all over the place this year. Joan Allen’s performance in “Upside of Anger” still wipes the floor with any of the other ladies, weird that she gained no traction. Amy Adams and Jake Gyllenhaal were my favorites in supporting, far more memorable performances than Weisz and Clooney.
Diego Pisfil I would’ve given Cinematography to “Brokeback Mountain”, some incredible and iconic shots in there. Certainly not to “Geisha” which was overtly stylish and horribly edited.
Reginald Wilson Geena Davis, Rachel Weisz, Heath Ledger, Brad Pitt and many others have won supporting Oscars for roles that are arguable leading, or take up a vast majority of the screentime. I would categorize Gyllenhaal’s role as supporting. Either way, he was my favorite in a weak category that year.
Reginald Wilson My point is, there is a precedence for Gyllenhaal’s category placement. And out of the nominees given that year, he would’ve been my choice. Granted, my choice overall would’ve been Mickey Rourke for “Sin City”, which never was going to get Oscars attention anyway. :) There are also several other men who could have been worthy nominees.
Reginald Wilson I don’t think anyone from “Crash” was given material worthy of them, to be honest. My choices would have been: Clifton Collins Jr, Capote Jake Gyllenhaal, Brokeback Mountain William Hurt, A History of Violence Val Kilmer, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang Mickey Rourke, Sin City*** runner-up: Donald Sutherland, Pride & Prejudice
There is a simple reason why the song from Brokeback Mountain wasn't nominated: "A Love That Will Never Grow Old" was deemed ineligible because it was only partially integrated in the movie.
yall should analyze the 2009 oscars (best of 2008) where kate winslet won for the reader but was a contender for both leading and supporting for the role.
Brokeback mountain, Capote, Munich, and Good night and good luck are all way better than Crash. Of course my two favorite movies that came out that year were batman begins and sin city which obviously had no chance of getting nominated. Squid and the whale and walk the line were also really good
I would agree on all except BM. People will continue to watch Crash for decades to come. I don't know what people can learn from BM except to be reminded that uncommon love was more difficult in the past than it is now. I'll take Sleepless in Seattle if I want a love story because it reveals WHY two people fall in love. BM does not tell us why they fall in love, they never talk about being in love, they never share their feelings, etc. They just predominantly relate the two men's lust for each other. Very little love to it, really. If anyone wants a great gay love story, then Call Me By My Name may be the best one I've ever seen.
@@willheigh5818 Really? Cause I'd say forbidden love (for various reasons, religion, class, sex) is one of the most relatable themes of all time, and this movie covers it wonderfully. We've all felt that pain of not being able to love the person we want, for various reasons. Curious have you seen "Portrait of a Lady on Fire"? I think it's a softer version of this film that actually DOES show them being falling in love, but in the end their love still being forbidden. And like Brokeback Mountain, the fact that they're gay is just a detail, and it could be any other differences that kept them from being together. One could say Jake Gyllenhal being poor kept him from truly being able to connect with Anne Hathway's character as much as him and Heath.
@@lockekappa500 I have seen 'Portrait' and enjoyed it much more than BM because the people had 'personality' which is grossly lacking in BM--what did they ever laugh about, what reason did the storyteller give me to 'like' them as people. Very little. As for forbidden love, we've all experienced it and in the arts we've had more than our fair share of it. I can think in short order of the following: Anna Karenina, Emma, Gone with the Wind, The Grand Sophy, Jane Eyre, The Great Gatsby, The Handmaid's Tale, The Hunger Games, The Importance of Being Earnest Lady Chatterley's Lover, Lolita, Love in the Time of Cholera, The Notebook, Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit, Persuasion, The Picture of Dorian Grey, Romeo and Juliet, The Scarlet Letter, The Tenant of Wildfell Hall, Twilight and Wuthering Heights--all of which are better and more interesting to me than BM.
@@willheigh5818 Im not sure where in the world you're from, but perhaps you're missing the point of how reserved the characters in BM were. The whole theme of the film is repressing your feelings and how that impacts your happiness. Cowboys from the south who were gay in the 60's are about as reserved of a human being as you'll get. I think it was an important story to be told, whether these characters are "likeable" is kind of beside the point. Nor is that a necessary thing to have to make an enjoyable, meaningful film.
@@lockekappa500 I'm not sure where someone is from has anything to do with it. For most films, we find a way to identify with, recognize or empathize with the people (or at least one person) in them. Ultimately there is one person we choose as our person in the story, usually the protagonist--this is basic storycraft stuff. Neither lead in BM did anything to make me care about him (this was not true in the novel, however). As for a film being enjoyable, enjoyment usually stems for us from the people in the film. As for meaningful, that too has an element of opinion to it. You enjoyed the film and think it meaningful; I did not. I think other films have done it way better. I certainly don't think any film either controversial or gay-themed should automatically make it the best picture of any given year. Some gay friends of mine value the film very highly because of some personal identification with the characters. I do not. Another of my gay friends fell asleep about 40 minutes into the film and just shrugged when he was asked afterwards about the movie. Do I think that BM is a worthwhile and noteworthy film? Of course. But it was a much better book than it was a movie.
Capote is absolutey smashing, so rewatchable and deep. And in its defence, Capote was a real person and his partner and him were never romantic in public.
I remember them holding hands at leas once in the movie (though it also took me a while to realize Bruce Greenwood was Capote’s lover), and the movie does lean heavily into the idea that Capote and one of the killers were attracted to each other, so I’m not sure why some might not assume it had gay undertones, especially since Capote was widely known to have been gay at this point in time.
It was an important mainstream film because it showed the racism that exists. Should it have been a Disney movie instead that would have showed a model of how all the races get along perfectly? I just didn't find a story about two closeted guys in love with each other as interesting as races speaking their minds honestly.
@@willheigh5818 damn, you’re really all over the comment section stating your opinion about how Crash is a wonderful movie & how it was right that it won lmao
@@Hxllysis You make a false claim with faulty understanding. I did not ever write that Crash was 'wonderful'; I did write that it was an important film, even if all it did was get people talking about racism. Most people don't seriously discuss racism, they just throw the label of 'racist' at each other--because it's easier than employing actual thought.
Interesting that Grizzly Man didn't even got nominated, but it seems that the Academy really disliked Herzog. I would personally would have loved to see anything for Broken Flowers, but I think it was too indie and discreet, probably didn't even tried to campaign for it and it also seems that the Oscars don't like Jarmusch neither.
I do remember there being some rumblings at the time of a CRASH upset but I feel like that was primarily because some people were just trying to find a narrative due to the BROKEBACK sweep. It winning the SAG sort of fueled the whole idea of that being a potential key precursor as well. I still think THE SQUID AND THE WHALE was the best film that year and was robbed.
My Top 10 List for 2005 was as follows: 1. A History of Violence 2. The New World 3. Cache 4. Munich 5. Downfall 6. Sin City 7. Crash 8. Syriana 9. King Kong 10. Saraband Honorable mentions: Millions and Enron
Love this series! “Crash” is rough and definitely didn’t deserve the win over “Brokeback Mountain”, but if you really want to see a racially insensitive BP Winner it’s not “Green Book” or “Crash”... It’s “Mutiny On The Bounty”... The subject matter is whoa the approach is whoa. Completed my BP COLLECTION and have seen every winner! Some better than others lol
Uncreatively Named Channel Haha that is a tough call... They all have their strengths in scope, performances, and additional storytelling accomplishments, but the ultimate Best Picture winner that kind of encapsulates all categories of the Academy would have to be “The Godfather.” I know that’s a basic choice, but I feel like I’d be playing too much into personal preference if I chose another. Do you have one that you think fits more appropriately?
Uncreatively Named Channel oh absolutely- If I could indulge in being biased I might put “No Country For Old Men” and “One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest” as my favorite BP winners. “Lawrence Of Arabia” meets all the requirements to be lister as an achievement too that could rival “The Godfather.”
Brokeback Mountain missed out on Original Song because it wasn't eligible. It was disqualified for not being featured enough in the film. We only hear about 10 seconds of it when Jack is driving and crying.
2005 was the year I fell in LOVE with film. King Kong, Narnia, Star Wars Episide III: Revenge of the Sith, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Batman Begins. Ugh what a seminal year for blockbusters. 2007 was also another incredible year 👏
Ugh, I remember being furious over this at the time. I thought that Brokeback Mountain was the superior movie in every single way. Crash didn't deserve the top spot that year, no way, no how.
Like the Grammys have done with their Grammy Hall of Fame, I think the Academy Awards should have an Oscars Hall Of Fame. Once again like the Grammys, this would be place for them to give out side awards (apart from the ceremony) to movies and short films that have stood the test of time. This would not only allow them to award movies that they have already awarded and show people 'hey look, we got this right', but it would also allow them to make up for mistakes they made in the past by rewarding films that they did not give as much awards or attention the first time around.
Tony Curtis and Ernest Borgnine were so proud of their homophobia that they boasted that they wouldn't even see ''Brokeback Mountain,'' let alone vote for it, and said they knew of other Academy members who felt the same way. Borgnine said: ''If John Wayne were alive, he'd be rolling over in his grave.'' Of course, if John Wayne were alive, why would he be in his grave? Anyway, ''Brokeback Mountain'' should've won the Best Picture Oscar to go along with the avalanche of awards it DID win, but it's a masterpiece with a legacy that'll outlast its bigoted critics. Many thanks to Oscar Expert and brother, Bro, for saluting Ang Lee's legendary love story and the two amazing actors, Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal, who made true movie magic.
From the acting categories, Reese and Philip absolutely deserves their wins, and the fact that an character actor like Hoffman won in the leading category is even better. Amy Adams was my favorite in the Supporting Actress category, I would have choose her over Rachel but the last gave a great performance too, she's my 2nd choice. And for Supporting Actor, I didn't see Clooney and Hurt yet but I would absolutely picked Jake G, what a performance (although it was a category fraud).
Can you do 2004 oscars? Would love to know if u think lord of the rings deserved 11 oscars, also so many good contenders that year (mystic river, lost in translation, master and commander etc.)
I wish I knew. Everything’s pretty up in the air at this point. I would guess that a lot of studios would push back because they aren’t willing to lose profit on their films. Indies/Oscar films not having the opportunity to hit festivals would mean they’re not going to want to release until things are normal either. The ceremony even taking place is just totally ambiguous.
Regarding song: 1. Hustle & Flow won CC for a different song, not the one that won the Oscar. 2. The song from BM was deemed NOT eligible because it's not substantially featured in the film.
Paul Haggis was a writer/producer for 80s TV iconic show 'The Facts of Life' the shows/seasons he did weren't as good as the previous seasons. And Clooney started out there as well.
There were only five movies made from 2000 up to the present that made it on the US National Film Registry as approved by Congress. The Dark Knight. Hurt Lockker Real Women Have Curves Shrek and Brokeback Mountain
@Diego Pisfil I really love Wall-E, The Dark Knight and Slumdog Millionaire my favorite movies of 2008 I like 2008. 2008 is great year for movies and animated movies
Talk about The 2016 (The Revenant, Mad Max), 2004, (The lord of the rings, Lost in translation) and 2009 (The dark knight, The curious case of benjamin Button), please!!
Captain Marvel Wilson 2016 was very controversial, the race was opened between Mad Max: Fury Road, The Revenant and The Big Short, and, still, Spotlight managed to won..
Pride & Prejudice is a comedy on the surface. A Rom-Com by best. The Martian is a comedy as there is a lot of humour and it's more of a sci-fi film with comedic scenes. Get Out from a Jordan Peele POV starts out as a comedy then turns into a horror film by the time the curtains change. The Tourist is a comedy as it can be seen as a humorous film in the style of an Italian Neorealist film.
"A Love that Will Never Grow Old" from Brokeback Mountain was disqualified because it was barely used in the film (that's what happened, so you know)...
Yes. Viola Davis got nominated for supporting actress for the movie doubt. She was in that movie for 11 minutes. Her last scene lasted 7 minutes and she completely stole it.
Won’t lie... I really liked ‘Crash’ when it came out and was happy it won Best Picture. I’m a sucker for movies where strangers are intertwined (Magnolia forever), and I felt a lot of the performances were very good. I caught some of it not too long ago and hooooo boy was it difficult to watch. It really hasn’t aged well. That said, I will take ‘Crash’ all day over ‘Green Book.’
Completely agree. A film like Crash serves as a landmark to show us whether racial issues have improved, and through its aging we can continue to compare society of today versus that from the turn of the century. Great cinema isn't just there to entertain us to make us feel good about ourselves. It serves us best with honesty and let us see how things were at the time. This is where BM does not match up--a controversial subject does not automatically qualify to be a Best Picture; it must also have a point to make, and the love affair of two men in the past shows little insight about the world today. Have a look at The Defiant Ones or In the Heat of the Night to compare racism of the 50s to the racism of today. Crash belongs as another classic milestone along the way to study how much inhumanity and stupidity there is in racism.
I’m the opposite. I hated Crash and liked Green Book. That said, it’s possible I did go in with a bit of a hate boner for Crash since unlike Green Book, which I saw in theaters, I saw Crash on Hulu long after I had already seen Brokeback Mountain and knew what kind of masterpiece it was.
This was a very weird oscar ceremony for me. I really loved Brokeback Mountain - I mean: REALLY, REALLY, REALLY loved it! It was by far my favourite movie of the year and even of the decade. And it was the beginning of a very interesting „trend“: In my opinion, the best romance movies from the last twenty years are about gay people - especially Brokeback Mountain, Carol and Moonlight. And I am saying this as a straight man - so it's not some kind of bias towards my sexual preferences. ;) So, of course I was disappointed about the Best Picture loss - but I couldn't be quite furious about Crash either. To be blunt: I liked that movie - it's style, it's stories, it's themes. It was simple to understand, it looked good, it sounded good and it felt important at the very same time. To be clear: Without Brokeback in the running, Munich should have won in my opinion - but in that case, I would have seen Crashs win as some kind of a „O.k., your favorite movie can't always be the winner“. Like The Shape of Water won over Get Out or Lady Bird. But that's not the reason, why it was a weird oscar ceremony for me. It was weird because EVERY friend of mine LOVED Crash and nobody (except for me) was „behind“ Brokeback! The reaction after the oscars was the absolute opposite compared to the uproar on every Oscar- or Film-Website ever existed. I even remember a discussion with someone, who wouldn't believe me that Brokeback was so loved by so many. He simply thought, the movie wasn't anything special - but he (too) adored Crash. And to be clear: No one these friends was (or is) homophobic in any kind of way. Not even remotely. They are all very left-leaning liberals ;) But (and this is a BIG „but“): They are all white... So, yes: For me it's like the Green Book situation, where I also quite liked the Best Picture Winner, but loved the main competitor Roma a hell of a lot more. My disappointment was very similar - like the acceptance.
I thought Crash was good. Terrence Howard was excellent in Hustle and Flow. I don’t think his nomination had anything to do with Crash. He deserved the nomination.
I think calling Brokeback Mountain the first mainstream movie about gay people is giving it too much credit. Cabaret and Dog Day Afternoon were both both big box office hits and Philadelphia won two Oscars more than a decade before Brokeback.
This year had one of the best Score line-ups ever. I still think Memoirs of a Geisha should have won. On another note, not wanting to watch/vote for Brokeback Mountain is not an excuse for voting for Crash for Best Picture. Crash is garbage. Capote would have been a great winner.
Loving this series a lot! Here are years I'd like to get your opinion on: 2009 (Slumdog swept) 2004 (LOTR swept) 2005 (Aviator v Million Dollar) 1999 (Shakespeare v Private Ryan) For this year, Crash was definitely one of the worst winners for Best Picture. Was happy to see Wallace and Gromit dominate, and fucking Chicken Little be disregarded. Really wished that GN & GL got more awards instead of Crash, especially Ori. Screenplay. That movie was great in terms of writing. Wished Batman Begins got more nominations like Production and Visual Effects.
'Crash' was an after school special... you expected Matt Dillon and Sandra Bullock to come on during the credits and said, 'To learn more about racism....' This year had a big campaign to derail Brokeback. Academy members came out against the film- Ernest Borgnine and Tony Curtis... it became a joke every night on late night TV.
If you haven't seen The Tailor of Panama, I recommend it as the best way to get into John LeCarré -- if you even want to, that is. A big part of Crash's victory comes down to very skillful strategizing by its promotors, and absolutely nothing about either film. They noted, for instance, that Brokeback hadn't been nominated for Best Editing. At the time, Editors formed the I believe second largest contingent of Academy voters, and the last film to win BP without an editing nomination had been Ordinary People, 24 years earlier. So they sensed weakness and pounced. I wonder whether you ever watched Crash a second time? My feeling on first viewing was that it was a little too tidy, but not awful. On second, however, it felt utterly preposterous and irredeemably contrived. So I can only imagine how you two would feel about it, since you seem to have liked it way less than I after just once.
In retrospect, Walk the Line would go on to inspire a much better movie, Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story. A History of Violence was wayy deserving, but it was just too indie at the time
Fun fact : Brokeback mountain is the youngest film in the national film registry, crash has yet to be inducted
Crash never will be, and I'm not just saying that because we all don't like it.
and hopefully never will
Yes, because a whole camp united and campaigned for its inclusion. Crash is not likely to have fans who 'adore' the picture or campaign for its inclusion. However, uncomfortable films often make into the National Registry...such as 'Silence of the Lambs', which did not have feminist groups or serial killer fanatics writing letters and campaigning on its behalf. It just stumbled into the registry on its merits.
The Dark Knight just already made it in National Film registry.
@@angelotrinidad6888 Yes, so did The hurt locker,Shrek, Grease and Blues Brothers, and The battle of the century
R.I.P. Heath Ledger and Philip Seymour Hoffman
The ending joke: "Have you ever broken your back?"
Me thinking: "On a mountain?"
It's curious that Joaquín Phoenix and Heath Ledger shared this category and both played the joker
And both won Oscars for it :)
And they both didn't win in 2006 😂
You guys didn't mention how some members of the Academy said that they wouldn't vote for a gay movie
UCLA CA some members even refused to watch it.
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When one considers people exercising their right to not see (or see) any film by free choice, and that all members of the Academy in all branches get to vote for Best Picture, those who chose not to see it or would not vote for it (for any reason) make up a negligible minority of Academy members, so they had little to no effect on the result of the final tabulations. It's highly likely that those who voted for for film because of its subject matter would have been cancelled out by those those voted against it, so the result was very unlikely to have been tainted by either side. While I often disagree with the Academy's choice for Best Picture, I also agreed the year that Shakespeare in Love won the award. People whined and threw hate all over the film, just like they did when Marisa Tomei won for Best Supporting Actress one year. The ballots were cast and the winner was the winner. If you don't like the Academy members' choices, then just don't watch the Oscars, or the SAGs, or the BAFTAs or the Globes. But some people have an obsession with trophies and fame so they can't help themselves, the poor devils.
@@willheigh5818 ok homophobe stfu, i see you trying justify shit in every comment.
@@ArefinSiddiquee It's amazing how everyone's opinion is wrong or useless if it's not the same as yours. Enjoy your misery--it's just a damned movie, and what does it really matter? Thankfully, you can't make everyone clones of yourself. AND you are assuming that I'm not gay myself. How much more self-involved can you possibly be? Lastly, why are you reading comments at all when you obviously have lumped everyone into groups so you can label them and misunderstand everything. People will vote the way they want for whatever reasons they want, and the last thing they are obligated to do is justify themselves to YOU, you fascist asshole.
Brokeback Mountain was robbed for Best Picture. Walk The Line should’ve been nominated.
@Diego Pisfil Reese deserved her win
@Diego Pisfil Crash didn't deserved to win
The fact that WE ALL agreed that Brokeback Mountain should have won Best Picture...
I'm still pissed off that Crash won Best Picture...
Even the director of Crash still thinks Brokeback Mountain should've won.
What ABOUT the so-called fact that we ALL agreed (when so many members of the 'WE' did not agree at all). Someone needs to study the use of the words 'fact' and 'all' before they employ them.
@@rickardkaufman3988 What else would expect a good Canadian boy to say? Modesty is still a virtue, after all.
@@willheigh5818 or he simply thinks Brokeback is better.
I would love to see the 85th or the 90th Academy Awards covered especially.
Nonetheless, regardless of the years you pick, please continue feeding the children by making these retrospectives into the future.
I agree with 90th, I love that race between Shape of Water and Three Billboards (with Get Out as a potential spoiler), especially since they were both Fox Searchlight.
It’s also pretty interesting to go back and look into the outcome for Phantom Thread. 30 years from now people will just accept that it was nominated, not knowing that it wasn’t at all expected, and for Director it wasn’t even in the conversation.
Diego Pisfil I’m not saying I think they were the most deserving, I just enjoyed the race between the two of them. If anything I think Get Out and Phantom Thread were the most deserving of the nominees.
@Diego Pisfil @Keith MacDonald The fact that the merits of several films can be discussed like this as Best Picture contenders in itself makes that year's Oscars race quite intriguing to me (my personal favourites were Get Out and Three Billboards but I'm not mad at Shape of Water)
Looking back at (I believe) an old Mark Kermode video, I see that he thought Lesley Manville would win Best Supporting Actress and look how that turned out; the nominees in that category in particular also seemed quite competitive and interesting.
1. Crash winning the top prize was just sad. The movie was also listed as one of the worst of the year by MSN critics. Weirdly, when Moonlight won, I thought "thank you, this makes up a bit for the Brokeback Mountain loss", which is not fair considering La La Land is better than Crash by miles. EVEN PAUL HAGGIS ADMITTED HIS MOVIE SHOULDN'T HAVE WON AGAINST BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN.
2. Just like this year (2020), the Best Actor lineup is one of the strongest seen in a while. I too agree Heath Ledger was the runner up, though.
3. I think that George Clooney's year propelled him to Oscar glory that night.
4. I'm sure Felicity Huffman was the runner up in the Best Actress category. What a performance!
5. I bought the OST for Brokeback Mountain and I have to say, it is gorgeous. I'm glad it had that surprise win in the Best Original Score category.
True. A poll made in the early 2010s have shown that Brokeback Mountain should've won but conservatives in America were like, "Ewwww." They were spreading homophobia even when Heath Ledger died. Jake remembers Heath hating the homophobia as he found the film very special to his heart.
Of course Haggis would say that: he's Canadian, after all. We all are often gallingly over-modest. As for the Best Score, it deserved it because if you ever get a chance to watch the film without the music, it will bore you to death.
la la land was a good movie but im really happy moonlight took it bc 1. i like it more 2. its redemption for brokeback and 3. i hate when hollywood circle jerk films win major awards (even if they deserve it)-- it always just feels like bait to me and will only win BECAUSE its about hollywood
That guitar score was everything, mean it just pierce into ur heart
The fact that Brokeback Mountain didn't win best picture it's homophobia, we've to say it clear.
That and the academy being like “ I KNOW WHAT IT IS” when it came to all the la shit
Who knows🤷♀️ but that's what i was thinking!
yeah, no way around it
i thought capote was better
Yeah, that's complete nonsense. Hoffmann won Best Actor that year for playing a gay man, and William Hurt had won the same award 20 YEARS before for playing a gay man. The idea that if an actor is gay, or plays a gay character, and should automatically win because of that is ridiculous, just as ludicrous as it is to say that a film showing a gay relationship should automatically win for Best Picture. Dustin Black won for Best Original Screenplay three years after BM not because he was gay or the protagonist of the film was gay, but because of the five scripts that year, his was the best ('In Bruges' was very good, but not as good as 'Milk'). As hard as it may be for people steeped in their own sexuality, not every voter even thinks of sexuality (or politics or religion) when they vote for any film...sometimes votes are for films that make the viewers feel good, or in the case of truly original themes, films that make them feel something they have never felt before. Just like with TV shows, first and foremost we like the people we see.
Watched Brokeback for the first time a few years ago and thought it was a bit boring, but I rewatched last week and it’s a bloody masterpiece one of the best movies of that decade
Literally the best leading actor line-up ever
kacper xyx this year (2019) was also superb, and we still had De Niro, Pattisom, Murphy, Sandler and Egerton Out. Any one of those would, for exemple, be easily nominated any year.
1962, 1967, 2013, 1974, 1980
10:39 you just completely skipped over Pride and Prejudice. Mr. Bingly feels violated.
I was thinking the same...
Great analysis. This Retrospective segment is really interesting and please do more of these in the future. It's sad that BM couldn't win Best Picture, but it doesn't matter now as more people have watched and loved it over the years! And Philip Seymour Hoffman really deserved the Lead Actor Oscar even though both Heath Ledger & Joaquin Phoenix were phenomenal. And amazing video as always. Keep it up!
P.S - So that means both Ledger & Phoenix were nominated together in the same category years before they would win for portraying the iconic character of "Joker". Isn't that something?
Fun fact about Kung Fu Hustle: The last Asian-language film to be released in 2,000 theaters before Parasite. Grossed 17 Mio in the US.
Let's do 1999 the year Shakespeare in Love won over Saving Private Ryan, Gwyneth Paltrow over Cate Blanchett. That would be awesome. And please, with Brother Bro too.
Check out Be Kind Rewind's video on this. She shows how Weinstein not only got the film to win the best picture and best actress but created the modern-day Oscar campaigning season.
@@rickardkaufman3988 And Benigni's best actor and foreign film
@@ErickGarcia-qs2yh Indeed. Although I love the film Life Is Beautiful, the Weinstein connection may ruin that or make me view Hollywood under a critical lens that it's always elitist. No wonder Hayao Miyazaki threatened to hurt him if Weinstein asked to cut Princess Mononoke for international distribution by sending a sword to him.
www.indiewire.com/2020/06/harvey-weinstein-threatened-studio-ghibli-mononoke-runtime-1202236275/
@@rickardkaufman3988 Of COURSE Hollywood is elitist! That has never NOT been true.
Ironically the Academy in an effort to give a movie that's supposed to be about racial unity, snubbed a film because of their own prejudice.
i was reading some articles about crashs reception and you dont realize how bad a movie has to be with race relations for multiple articles to say the message was dated/out of touch in *2005*
Would love to see you cover the 88th academy awards . Carol not being nominated for BP and rooney mara being nominated in supporting. Also Sylvester Stallone not winning best supporting
I love Michelle Williams pop up 5 minutes in a movie and made everyone cry with her performance
Great retrospective. I still remember first seeing Brokeback Mountain in a cinema and how it stayed with me. I was so angry when it lost. I’ve never rewatched Crash out of bitterness. Provably the Oscar loss that most annoys me.
@@Chris-vs6ll so I didn’t enjoy a film you liked as much as another so you call me a bigot. That’s just unnecessarily rude.
@@Chris-vs6ll why am I a bigot because I preferred Brokeback Mountain to Crash and think Brokeback should’ve won Best Picture? I thought that was the better film.
@@Chris-vs6ll you wrote if you’re not a complete bigot you’ll be moved by it, implying I was because I’d said I preferred the other film. I didn’t even say I didn’t like, purely that I was annoyed my preferred one lost. So yes, suggesting someone is a bigot for simply saying they enjoyed a film is rude.
@@Chris-vs6ll this is ridiculous. I have nothing to clear my name about. I said I enjoyed one film more than another decades ago. I still think the other should’ve won (as does the the director of Crash by the way). I didn’t say I didn’t like it. I didn’t say I wasn’t moved by it. I simply said I was annoyed my preferred winner lost. You implied that made me a bigot, which makes zero sense. Some people prefer other films to other people. Why you had to turn this in to something nasty against someone you don’t even know, I have no idea.
@@Chris-vs6ll You're so cringe dude take it easy
2005 back when Ang Lee made good movies. I would also like to add that Philip Seymour Hoffman is a top 10 best actor of all time.
social network vs the king's speech, we need this
You guys should look into the 1999 or 2012 awards seasons (as in the 1999 and 2012 movies, ala American Beauty and Argo). Lots to be discussed in those years, ranging from Ben Affleck’s Director Snub, Sam Mendes winning everything BUT the BAFTA, Brave vs Wreck it Ralph, Christoph Waltz upsetting Tommy Lee Jones for Supporting Actor, Annette Bening losing to Hilary Swank, so on and so forth. Looking forward to more of these!!!
Hoffman deserved the win
Thank you for this. There was no cat cameo (ca-meow) this time. But there was some evidence of recent cat activity on The Oscar Expert's shirt there. I appreciate it.
You guys should make a retrospective on the 1994 oscars, because three of the best picture nominees are really big classics
Interesting editing to record yourself twice and put it together so seamlessly
i hope your joking
I just want to say that I'm very happy Brokeback Mountain won Best Score over Memoirs because that score (specifically the track Sayuri's Theme) sounds REALLY similar to the score for Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. I don't know if I'm the only person who thinks this, but listen to the main theme for Crouching Tiger and then listen to Sayuri's Theme. They sound really similar.
I love this kind of videos !!! Can you do 2014 awards retrospective (86th Academy Awards) ??? I want to see more like this !!! 🎬 ❤
It long so feel free to skip around
00:53 Thoughts on Crash / Brokeback
04:22 Why did Brokeback lose?
07:14 Best Picture
14:36 Director
16:22 Actress
18:14 Actor
21:02 Supporting Actress
23:20 Supporting Actor
26:53 Screenplays
28:18 Cinematography
29:24 Editing
31:35 Production Design
32:11 Costumes
32:35 Makeup
32:42 Animated
33:28 Foreign
34:10 VFX
34:20 Score
35:12 Song
35:28 Sound
35:57 SAG Ensemble
36:25 No Nominations
Brokeback mountain easily the most memorable movie of that decade for me but homophobia prevented it from winning best picture
It's mathematics at work, not homophobia. I chose Crash that year, and I also bet on Crash that year and won the bet, just as I have most years. Out of the 510 movies in history nominated for Best Picture, only 42 times did the winner of Best Adapted Screenplay go on to also win Best Picture. Simple arithmetic.
The acting categories were all over the place this year. Joan Allen’s performance in “Upside of Anger” still wipes the floor with any of the other ladies, weird that she gained no traction.
Amy Adams and Jake Gyllenhaal were my favorites in supporting, far more memorable performances than Weisz and Clooney.
Diego Pisfil I would’ve given Cinematography to “Brokeback Mountain”, some incredible and iconic shots in there. Certainly not to “Geisha” which was overtly stylish and horribly edited.
Reginald Wilson Geena Davis, Rachel Weisz, Heath Ledger, Brad Pitt and many others have won supporting Oscars for roles that are arguable leading, or take up a vast majority of the screentime.
I would categorize Gyllenhaal’s role as supporting. Either way, he was my favorite in a weak category that year.
Reginald Wilson My point is, there is a precedence for Gyllenhaal’s category placement. And out of the nominees given that year, he would’ve been my choice.
Granted, my choice overall would’ve been Mickey Rourke for “Sin City”, which never was going to get Oscars attention anyway. :) There are also several other men who could have been worthy nominees.
Reginald Wilson I don’t think anyone from “Crash” was given material worthy of them, to be honest.
My choices would have been:
Clifton Collins Jr, Capote
Jake Gyllenhaal, Brokeback Mountain
William Hurt, A History of Violence
Val Kilmer, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
Mickey Rourke, Sin City***
runner-up: Donald Sutherland, Pride & Prejudice
There is a simple reason why the song from Brokeback Mountain wasn't nominated: "A Love That Will Never Grow Old" was deemed ineligible because it was only partially integrated in the movie.
I absolutely love your retrospectives. Eager for more!
yall should analyze the 2009 oscars (best of 2008) where kate winslet won for the reader but was a contender for both leading and supporting for the role.
Brokeback mountain, Capote, Munich, and Good night and good luck are all way better than Crash. Of course my two favorite movies that came out that year were batman begins and sin city which obviously had no chance of getting nominated. Squid and the whale and walk the line were also really good
I would agree on all except BM. People will continue to watch Crash for decades to come. I don't know what people can learn from BM except to be reminded that uncommon love was more difficult in the past than it is now. I'll take Sleepless in Seattle if I want a love story because it reveals WHY two people fall in love. BM does not tell us why they fall in love, they never talk about being in love, they never share their feelings, etc. They just predominantly relate the two men's lust for each other. Very little love to it, really. If anyone wants a great gay love story, then Call Me By My Name may be the best one I've ever seen.
@@willheigh5818 Really? Cause I'd say forbidden love (for various reasons, religion, class, sex) is one of the most relatable themes of all time, and this movie covers it wonderfully. We've all felt that pain of not being able to love the person we want, for various reasons. Curious have you seen "Portrait of a Lady on Fire"? I think it's a softer version of this film that actually DOES show them being falling in love, but in the end their love still being forbidden. And like Brokeback Mountain, the fact that they're gay is just a detail, and it could be any other differences that kept them from being together. One could say Jake Gyllenhal being poor kept him from truly being able to connect with Anne Hathway's character as much as him and Heath.
@@lockekappa500 I have seen 'Portrait' and enjoyed it much more than BM because the people had 'personality' which is grossly lacking in BM--what did they ever laugh about, what reason did the storyteller give me to 'like' them as people. Very little. As for forbidden love, we've all experienced it and in the arts we've had more than our fair share of it. I can think in short order of the following: Anna Karenina, Emma, Gone with the Wind,
The Grand Sophy, Jane Eyre, The Great Gatsby, The Handmaid's Tale, The Hunger Games, The Importance of Being Earnest
Lady Chatterley's Lover, Lolita, Love in the Time of Cholera, The Notebook, Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit, Persuasion, The Picture of Dorian Grey, Romeo and Juliet, The Scarlet Letter, The Tenant of Wildfell Hall, Twilight and Wuthering Heights--all of which are better and more interesting to me than BM.
@@willheigh5818 Im not sure where in the world you're from, but perhaps you're missing the point of how reserved the characters in BM were. The whole theme of the film is repressing your feelings and how that impacts your happiness. Cowboys from the south who were gay in the 60's are about as reserved of a human being as you'll get. I think it was an important story to be told, whether these characters are "likeable" is kind of beside the point. Nor is that a necessary thing to have to make an enjoyable, meaningful film.
@@lockekappa500 I'm not sure where someone is from has anything to do with it. For most films, we find a way to identify with, recognize or empathize with the people (or at least one person) in them. Ultimately there is one person we choose as our person in the story, usually the protagonist--this is basic storycraft stuff. Neither lead in BM did anything to make me care about him (this was not true in the novel, however). As for a film being enjoyable, enjoyment usually stems for us from the people in the film. As for meaningful, that too has an element of opinion to it. You enjoyed the film and think it meaningful; I did not. I think other films have done it way better. I certainly don't think any film either controversial or gay-themed should automatically make it the best picture of any given year. Some gay friends of mine value the film very highly because of some personal identification with the characters. I do not. Another of my gay friends fell asleep about 40 minutes into the film and just shrugged when he was asked afterwards about the movie. Do I think that BM is a worthwhile and noteworthy film? Of course. But it was a much better book than it was a movie.
Capote is absolutey smashing, so rewatchable and deep. And in its defence, Capote was a real person and his partner and him were never romantic in public.
I remember them holding hands at leas once in the movie (though it also took me a while to realize Bruce Greenwood was Capote’s lover), and the movie does lean heavily into the idea that Capote and one of the killers were attracted to each other, so I’m not sure why some might not assume it had gay undertones, especially since Capote was widely known to have been gay at this point in time.
Ang Lee's versatility is astonishing! The Wedding Banquet, Sense and Sensibility, Crouching Tiger, Brokeback Mountain, Life of Pi- come on!
1:40 you hit the nail on the head. You can’t just conflate systemic racism with prejudice smh Crash was just 🤮
0:08 I loved Coles look on saying Crash won 2007 Best Picture. Just sums up everyone's collective conscious
The New World not getting nominated at all (except for cinematography) is a disgrace!
I was four when Crash won and I was still mad
It was an important mainstream film because it showed the racism that exists. Should it have been a Disney movie instead that would have showed a model of how all the races get along perfectly? I just didn't find a story about two closeted guys in love with each other as interesting as races speaking their minds honestly.
@@willheigh5818 damn, you’re really all over the comment section stating your opinion about how Crash is a wonderful movie & how it was right that it won lmao
@@Hxllysis You make a false claim with faulty understanding. I did not ever write that Crash was 'wonderful'; I did write that it was an important film, even if all it did was get people talking about racism. Most people don't seriously discuss racism, they just throw the label of 'racist' at each other--because it's easier than employing actual thought.
Keep going guys, you’re wonderful
You guys continue to be addictive!
Interesting that Grizzly Man didn't even got nominated, but it seems that the Academy really disliked Herzog.
I would personally would have loved to see anything for Broken Flowers, but I think it was too indie and discreet, probably didn't even tried to campaign for it and it also seems that the Oscars don't like Jarmusch neither.
Syriana was up for Adapted Screenplay at the WGAs and Original Screenplay at the Oscars... can you explain why?
Good work guys!
Can you do the 77th Academy Awards (2004)?
I rly hope you guys do these 2010,2009,2015,2013,2011
Next King’s Speech vs The Social Network please :)
I do remember there being some rumblings at the time of a CRASH upset but I feel like that was primarily because some people were just trying to find a narrative due to the BROKEBACK sweep. It winning the SAG sort of fueled the whole idea of that being a potential key precursor as well.
I still think THE SQUID AND THE WHALE was the best film that year and was robbed.
My Top 10 List for 2005 was as follows:
1. A History of Violence
2. The New World
3. Cache
4. Munich
5. Downfall
6. Sin City
7. Crash
8. Syriana
9. King Kong
10. Saraband
Honorable mentions: Millions and Enron
At the Golden Horse Awards (Taiwan's Oscars equivalent), Ang Lee lost the director award for Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, just saying
I would love to hear your opinions on an old academy awards and just compare the old academy awards to how they are now
Love this series! “Crash” is rough and definitely didn’t deserve the win over “Brokeback Mountain”, but if you really want to see a racially insensitive BP Winner it’s not “Green Book” or “Crash”... It’s “Mutiny On The Bounty”... The subject matter is whoa the approach is whoa. Completed my BP COLLECTION and have seen every winner! Some better than others lol
What would you say the ultimate greatest Best Picture winner is?
Uncreatively Named Channel Haha that is a tough call... They all have their strengths in scope, performances, and additional storytelling accomplishments, but the ultimate Best Picture winner that kind of encapsulates all categories of the Academy would have to be “The Godfather.” I know that’s a basic choice, but I feel like I’d be playing too much into personal preference if I chose another. Do you have one that you think fits more appropriately?
Matt Boulter I would agree with that, but Lawrence Of Arabia and No Country For Old Men are close for me.
Uncreatively Named Channel oh absolutely- If I could indulge in being biased I might put “No Country For Old Men” and “One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest” as my favorite BP winners. “Lawrence Of Arabia” meets all the requirements to be lister as an achievement too that could rival “The Godfather.”
Brokeback Mountain missed out on Original Song because it wasn't eligible. It was disqualified for not being featured enough in the film. We only hear about 10 seconds of it when Jack is driving and crying.
2005 was the year I fell in LOVE with film. King Kong, Narnia, Star Wars Episide III: Revenge of the Sith, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Batman Begins. Ugh what a seminal year for blockbusters. 2007 was also another incredible year 👏
had to mute, block and report a poster here.... I was just fed up with his number of replies and asked him to stop- and he started threatening me.
I just reported him/ her/ they too
Ugh, I remember being furious over this at the time. I thought that Brokeback Mountain was the superior movie in every single way. Crash didn't deserve the top spot that year, no way, no how.
Like the Grammys have done with their Grammy Hall of Fame, I think the Academy Awards should have an Oscars Hall Of Fame. Once again like the Grammys, this would be place for them to give out side awards (apart from the ceremony) to movies and short films that have stood the test of time. This would not only allow them to award movies that they have already awarded and show people 'hey look, we got this right', but it would also allow them to make up for mistakes they made in the past by rewarding films that they did not give as much awards or attention the first time around.
This was the first Oscars I remember paying attention too. Thanks for all the videos
No I've never broken my back
Hope to see a retrospective on Oscar's 2011!
brokeback mountain makes me think of Everything Everywhere All At Once this year. Yet another genre breaking movie, let's see how it rolls out!
Tony Curtis and Ernest Borgnine were so proud of their homophobia that they boasted that they wouldn't even see ''Brokeback Mountain,'' let alone vote for it, and said they knew of other Academy members who felt the same way. Borgnine said: ''If John Wayne were alive, he'd be rolling over in his grave.'' Of course, if John Wayne were alive, why would he be in his grave? Anyway, ''Brokeback Mountain'' should've won the Best Picture Oscar to go along with the avalanche of awards it DID win, but it's a masterpiece with a legacy that'll outlast its bigoted critics. Many thanks to Oscar Expert and brother, Bro, for saluting Ang Lee's legendary love story and the two amazing actors, Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal, who made true movie magic.
Tony Curtis was closeted. Just look at the guy.
1995 would be interesting
Could you please do another one for the 87th and 89th academy award shows as well?
From the acting categories, Reese and Philip absolutely deserves their wins, and the fact that an character actor like Hoffman won in the leading category is even better.
Amy Adams was my favorite in the Supporting Actress category, I would have choose her over Rachel but the last gave a great performance too, she's my 2nd choice.
And for Supporting Actor, I didn't see Clooney and Hurt yet but I would absolutely picked Jake G, what a performance (although it was a category fraud).
@Diego Pisfil she was my 2nd choice but I think i prefer Reese
@Diego Pisfil she was snubbed for that
Can you do 2004 oscars? Would love to know if u think lord of the rings deserved 11 oscars, also so many good contenders that year (mystic river, lost in translation, master and commander etc.)
Good video,
What do you think will happen to the Oscars of 2021 if the theaters close until the end of the year?
I wish I knew. Everything’s pretty up in the air at this point. I would guess that a lot of studios would push back because they aren’t willing to lose profit on their films. Indies/Oscar films not having the opportunity to hit festivals would mean they’re not going to want to release until things are normal either. The ceremony even taking place is just totally ambiguous.
@@TheOscarExpert thanks for replying, we just gotta wait 👌🏻
@@TheOscarExpert Don't worry. The Academy has said they we accept VOD online films as long as it's eligible to their standards.
1977 would be cool. Star wars a new hope vs annie hall
Regarding song:
1. Hustle & Flow won CC for a different song, not the one that won the Oscar.
2. The song from BM was deemed NOT eligible because it's not substantially featured in the film.
Paul Haggis was a writer/producer for 80s TV iconic show 'The Facts of Life' the shows/seasons he did weren't as good as the previous seasons. And Clooney started out there as well.
Hoffman and Huffman are the winners of the Lead that year for me 🤷
There were only five movies made from 2000 up to the present that made it on the US National Film Registry as approved by Congress. The Dark Knight. Hurt Lockker Real Women Have Curves Shrek and Brokeback Mountain
I broke my back ridding bareback on a brokeback mountain bronco.
You could talk about the miss of The Dark Knight and Wall-E
those are 2008 films
@@jianfeishao yeah I know
@Diego Pisfil I really love Wall-E, The Dark Knight and Slumdog Millionaire my favorite movies of 2008
I like 2008. 2008 is great year for movies and animated movies
@Diego Pisfil My nominations Best Picture should be:
WALL-E
Frost\Nixon
Revolutionary Road
*SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE (WINNER)*
The Dark Knight
Talk about The 2016 (The Revenant, Mad Max), 2004, (The lord of the rings, Lost in translation) and 2009 (The dark knight, The curious case of benjamin Button), please!!
Those were not the controversial Oscars. The one thing that was controversial was The Dark Knight not getting nominated.
Captain Marvel Wilson 2016 was very controversial, the race was opened between Mad Max: Fury Road, The Revenant and The Big Short, and, still, Spotlight managed to won..
I thought that Capote didn’t get a Golden Globe nomination.
How is Pride & Prejudice a comedy or musical in any universe?
Same for The Martian, Get Out, The Tourist
Pride & Prejudice is a comedy on the surface. A Rom-Com by best.
The Martian is a comedy as there is a lot of humour and it's more of a sci-fi film with comedic scenes.
Get Out from a Jordan Peele POV starts out as a comedy then turns into a horror film by the time the curtains change.
The Tourist is a comedy as it can be seen as a humorous film in the style of an Italian Neorealist film.
The Martian winning comedy categories at GG is the ultimate category fraud of this century. The trailers sold it (accurately) as an adventure drama.
DO THE 70th ACADEMY AWARDS (Films From 1994)!!!!!!
Do a retrospective of 2011, 2007, 2003 and 2009
"A Love that Will Never Grow Old" from Brokeback Mountain was disqualified because it was barely used in the film (that's what happened, so you know)...
83rd Academy Awards next! Please!
"not being in a movie that much but bringing a lot to it" isn't that literally what a supporting performance is meant to be and do??
Yes. Viola Davis got nominated for supporting actress for the movie doubt. She was in that movie for 11 minutes. Her last scene lasted 7 minutes and she completely stole it.
Oldboy was 2003?
Won’t lie... I really liked ‘Crash’ when it came out and was happy it won Best Picture. I’m a sucker for movies where strangers are intertwined (Magnolia forever), and I felt a lot of the performances were very good. I caught some of it not too long ago and hooooo boy was it difficult to watch. It really hasn’t aged well.
That said, I will take ‘Crash’ all day over ‘Green Book.’
Coastermonkey61 Unpopular opinion, but I actually liked Crash and Green Book
Completely agree. A film like Crash serves as a landmark to show us whether racial issues have improved, and through its aging we can continue to compare society of today versus that from the turn of the century. Great cinema isn't just there to entertain us to make us feel good about ourselves. It serves us best with honesty and let us see how things were at the time. This is where BM does not match up--a controversial subject does not automatically qualify to be a Best Picture; it must also have a point to make, and the love affair of two men in the past shows little insight about the world today. Have a look at The Defiant Ones or In the Heat of the Night to compare racism of the 50s to the racism of today. Crash belongs as another classic milestone along the way to study how much inhumanity and stupidity there is in racism.
I’m the opposite. I hated Crash and liked Green Book. That said, it’s possible I did go in with a bit of a hate boner for Crash since unlike Green Book, which I saw in theaters, I saw Crash on Hulu long after I had already seen Brokeback Mountain and knew what kind of masterpiece it was.
Crash was a glorified After School Special.
The year I gave up on the Academy Awards.
Cache, Oldboy, and The Beat That My Heart Skipped were the 3 best movies that year.
This was a very weird oscar ceremony for me.
I really loved Brokeback Mountain - I mean: REALLY, REALLY, REALLY loved it! It was by far my favourite movie of the year and even of the decade. And it was the beginning of a very interesting „trend“: In my opinion, the best romance movies from the last twenty years are about gay people - especially Brokeback Mountain, Carol and Moonlight. And I am saying this as a straight man - so it's not some kind of bias towards my sexual preferences. ;)
So, of course I was disappointed about the Best Picture loss - but I couldn't be quite furious about Crash either. To be blunt: I liked that movie - it's style, it's stories, it's themes. It was simple to understand, it looked good, it sounded good and it felt important at the very same time.
To be clear: Without Brokeback in the running, Munich should have won in my opinion - but in that case, I would have seen Crashs win as some kind of a „O.k., your favorite movie can't always be the winner“. Like The Shape of Water won over Get Out or Lady Bird.
But that's not the reason, why it was a weird oscar ceremony for me. It was weird because EVERY friend of mine LOVED Crash and nobody (except for me) was „behind“ Brokeback!
The reaction after the oscars was the absolute opposite compared to the uproar on every Oscar- or Film-Website ever existed. I even remember a discussion with someone, who wouldn't believe me that Brokeback was so loved by so many. He simply thought, the movie wasn't anything special - but he (too) adored Crash.
And to be clear: No one these friends was (or is) homophobic in any kind of way. Not even remotely. They are all very left-leaning liberals ;)
But (and this is a BIG „but“): They are all white...
So, yes: For me it's like the Green Book situation, where I also quite liked the Best Picture Winner, but loved the main competitor Roma a hell of a lot more. My disappointment was very similar - like the acceptance.
I thought Crash was good. Terrence Howard was excellent in Hustle and Flow. I don’t think his nomination had anything to do with Crash. He deserved the nomination.
Do 1995 Oscars next
I think calling Brokeback Mountain the first mainstream movie about gay people is giving it too much credit. Cabaret and Dog Day Afternoon were both both big box office hits and Philadelphia won two Oscars more than a decade before Brokeback.
Yeah, exactly.
This year had one of the best Score line-ups ever. I still think Memoirs of a Geisha should have won.
On another note, not wanting to watch/vote for Brokeback Mountain is not an excuse for voting for Crash for Best Picture. Crash is garbage. Capote would have been a great winner.
what the hell is crash? never heard of it
Loving this series a lot! Here are years I'd like to get your opinion on:
2009 (Slumdog swept)
2004 (LOTR swept)
2005 (Aviator v Million Dollar)
1999 (Shakespeare v Private Ryan)
For this year, Crash was definitely one of the worst winners for Best Picture. Was happy to see Wallace and Gromit dominate, and fucking Chicken Little be disregarded. Really wished that GN & GL got more awards instead of Crash, especially Ori. Screenplay. That movie was great in terms of writing. Wished Batman Begins got more nominations like Production and Visual Effects.
@Diego Pisfil Agreed
'Crash' was an after school special... you expected Matt Dillon and Sandra Bullock to come on during the credits and said, 'To learn more about racism....' This year had a big campaign to derail Brokeback. Academy members came out against the film- Ernest Borgnine and Tony Curtis... it became a joke every night on late night TV.
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v for vendetta should have been nominated and won
I always watch the Oscars and I remember me & all my black friends including me being pleasantly surprised Crash won
If you haven't seen The Tailor of Panama, I recommend it as the best way to get into John LeCarré -- if you even want to, that is.
A big part of Crash's victory comes down to very skillful strategizing by its promotors, and absolutely nothing about either film. They noted, for instance, that Brokeback hadn't been nominated for Best Editing. At the time, Editors formed the I believe second largest contingent of Academy voters, and the last film to win BP without an editing nomination had been Ordinary People, 24 years earlier. So they sensed weakness and pounced.
I wonder whether you ever watched Crash a second time? My feeling on first viewing was that it was a little too tidy, but not awful. On second, however, it felt utterly preposterous and irredeemably contrived. So I can only imagine how you two would feel about it, since you seem to have liked it way less than I after just once.
Cache was actually submitted, but disqualified.
In retrospect, Walk the Line would go on to inspire a much better movie, Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story. A History of Violence was wayy deserving, but it was just too indie at the time