Ive had fuyu for over 20 years. Right now, I have nearly 300 trees. Most are just 1 year old. We had a 3 day storm in Alabama of 72 hours below freezing down in the teens at night and it killed many of my big trees and happened after march when trees had budded out. Before that event id harvest many many 5 gal buckets of fruit per tree. 3 fruits averaged 1 pound and I'd sell them for $30 a bucket. I dry a lot of mine and they last up to 2 years in ziplock bags in storage. I wish i knew more about them. I just roll my profits into more trees and irrigation systems. They are fantastic and easy to grow and until that spring cold snap i rarely lost a tree. The biggest thing is to pull off a lot of fruit in thinning or your limbs will snap off from the weight. I leave 1 fruit every 6 inches
Persimmon pudding is my favorite. Freeze the pulp and then make the pudding later. I used to ask my grandmother for persimmon pudding each year for my birthday instead of cake. Yum.
Hi Ross this video is very informative and helpful . I also have a rosseyanka and super excited to see it fruit in the coming years. Thanks again for your time buddy.
I pre ordered a meader persimmon this fall. mainly chose meader due to availability, but the variety also came out of New Hampshire which is close to me. Cant wait to grow this plant.
Love the video Ross. Couldn't agree more that sometimes you just got to try something new and take the risk to see if you can get some pay off. That's always been very difficult for me because I like to play things safe and do a lot of research to make the right choices but in gardening particularly these more exotic fruits there really isn't extensive research and you just got to make the best decision you can. I got my first 2 persimmons this summer and planted them in mid-September. Two 5 gallon Miss Kim persimmons from edible landscaping. I knew I wanted Asian type astringent dwarf that could survive in my climate zone 7B Edgewater Maryland. My best son area was in my front yard so I also wanted something with good full foliage and Miss Kim was definitely a standout with beautiful red leaves this fall. Miss Kim seems to fit the bill pretty well but I guess only time will tell.
I started into grafted persimmons with Prok. Got some wood from a friend and stuck it on some wild trees. I don't really care for the wild ones, but Prok is sweet and delicious. We added 'Wonderful', Prok x HKD, Nikita's gift and Kasandra and I am here hoping to hear about a few one them.
I ended up getting a non-grafted meader from a large online company for zone 5b. I went this route for several reasons. I am confident with my choice but time will tell.
Thanks for sharing. amazing info! U gotta get a good cam that focuses well as you move. latest cellphone cameras are better nowadays! id love to see 4k details
I had a Jiro that dropped all its fruitlets every year for almost ten years after putting it in the ground, then suddenly last year it carried about 300 fruit to maturity. Watching it closely this year.
Trust me, you have a lot more than 300 fruitlets on that tree currently. And yes, cutting up and freezing works well for things like smoothies. For Jiro at least, I had to be careful about how I thawed them for use in cereals and stuff. They don’t have the same texture, but are still sweet and relatively firm if I don’t overheat when thawing. Get them up to room temp or a little below, and use immediately.
We found a wild Viginiana that has a distinct Orange flavor. Amazing. I have it's location marked for sure. I'm really sorry that so many of your branches broke. That really hurts
I’m picking up some wild persimmon tree starts soon. Do they also take 5-7 years to produce? Also will introducing an American cultivar nearby improve their fruit?
subscribed. would you sell the snapped branch or a graft? I'm interested in buying them please. I also would like to buy some persimmon, I see you are in PA. let know if I can buy please.
Thanks for the video. I planted a young persimmon tree this spring. Now the leafs are curled with their edges burned (brown). I don’t see aphis or any other insects. I have applied some fungicides but it doesn’t seem to help. Do you know what could be the issues? Thanks!
@@neocaridaniel8220 Not sure. It doesn't do well but still alive. It doesn't seem it's something to do with insects. Most of its leafs stay curled (not healthy looking). Hope it will survive its first year. Thanks for the followup.
I grow Fuyu out in Delco, and it puts out tons of fruit and behaves pretty similar to your Jiro. Do you have to compete with squirrels on harvesting your persimmons when they start to ripen? Also have you tried to propagate any of the varieties you currently have?
Hi Ross! Which variety would you recommend for American persimmon for zone 7a? I was eyeing Prok for a long time, but reading a few comments like 'it's rather bland' is making me indecisive. What's your take on hybrids compared to American astringent like say Nikita's gift, which seems popular amongst persimmon enthusiasts? Any input is appreciated.
Those comments are wrong. It's far from bland. Don't trust whoever said that. Hybrids are meant for growers in cold climates. In zone 5 and 6. They combine the American's hardiness with the Asian's size and eating quality. If I was in those zones, I would grow one to make hoshigaki every year.
@@RossRaddi I have also read comments on some fruit forums some people claiming Prok was bland. The discussion I read had two camps, half saying it was bland, half saying it was amazing. Some people were guessing maybe the tree takes a few years to produce good tasting fruit. Others were thinking maybe there were actually two different varieties being sold wrongly under the same name. It can happen. Fruit trees to get mislabeled and some nurseries are not as judicious as others. I am doing a Persimmon (and home orchard) journey in general. I have Ichi Ki Kei Jiro and Prok planted. I will be acquiring an Izu and Nikita's Gift and I am going to try grafting 100-46, Mikkusu, and Zima Khurma. I wanted a little of everything. Non astringent, American, and Hybrids. From what I saw, astringent Asians didn't seem worth it as American has better fresh eating and hybrids have decent size for drying as well as better taste (if not as good as American).
@@LC-wv7tz I have several Prok trees and one produces fruit that is much better than the others. It's fantastic, never astringent. I have one Prok that is often astringent, so I can't always count on that tree. I don't know why. They are all from the same cuttings going onto wild trees.
Would you pls explain to me The Summer Burning (if I said it right)? I have the same tree, I would like to do what you have done. Or if you could send me your videos. Where canI fined your VIDEOS? Pls help me.
my Nikita’s gift in full sun fruited in 3 years. i harvested after a few frosts and let them get soft. i didnt find them that sweet at all. the flavor was ok, nothing impressive. maybe it needs a few years or persimmons are not for me.
They are incredibly sweet. Hopefully you have better results this year. For many years I wasn't sure if I liked American persimmons. Each time I tried them, they were fermented and tasted like cleaning products.
@@RossRaddi maybe my tree is still to young. i will give it a few years. im not getting that fig sweetness many describe. i picked and tried them at many stages of ripeness. i know the chalky taste lol. i noticed in some the core would be black like they spoiled or didnt form correct. i still have a few sitting outside all wrinkled up. they are soft not jelly yet.
I have such a hard time with rabbits deer groundhogs and gophers killing my trees and shrubs. I hope they grow back in the spring. Not much left above the graft on 80% of what I planted and cared for. Between them and the caterpillars stinkbugs and slugs I have a hard time getting any fruit at all. Man gardening is rough. I don't know that I will buy replacements. It's such a big time and money investment. I also don't feel that I can find a fruit that holds a candle to strawberries which I have better luck with to a small degree. Of course I do live in zone 6 so it's hard to find things that can take the cold. I think my persimmons will make it but I'm not sure. I was in shock that they even went for my pawpaws as I didn't think anything would eat the vegetation on those. Oh and I also have a horrible bird and rodent problem on top of that. Not to mention the raccoons, skunks, and opossums.
I live next to a huge Texas lake and the entire lake is thousands of acres of wildlife refuge. I have a lot of everything you mentioned except groundhogs and the yellow differential grasshopper species is by far worse than anything you mentioned. They kill trees in bad years and even eat the bark on the twigs. I have 8 acres and hundreds of trees and I have to cage everything to keep the deer off them somewhat. I’m in sand and gophers are very bad in easy digging sand. Get you some Trapline Gophenator traps and you’ll knock a big dent on those gophers. I bet I’ve killed over a thousand with them. I killed 26 the first day I got my traps. Victor gopher traps are junk. They’re too weak and once a gopher escapes they get very hard to trap again. I gave mine away. I use my cinch gopher traps on the bigger gopher holes. The Traplines fit better in the normal size holes. I use those in about 90% and the cinch traps in the other 10%.
Persimmons trees get that big in 4-5 years with fruit? Thats incredible.
I am glad you did a persimmon video.
Ive had fuyu for over 20 years. Right now, I have nearly 300 trees. Most are just 1 year old. We had a 3 day storm in Alabama of 72 hours below freezing down in the teens at night and it killed many of my big trees and happened after march when trees had budded out. Before that event id harvest many many 5 gal buckets of fruit per tree. 3 fruits averaged 1 pound and I'd sell them for $30 a bucket. I dry a lot of mine and they last up to 2 years in ziplock bags in storage. I wish i knew more about them. I just roll my profits into more trees and irrigation systems. They are fantastic and easy to grow and until that spring cold snap i rarely lost a tree. The biggest thing is to pull off a lot of fruit in thinning or your limbs will snap off from the weight. I leave 1 fruit every 6 inches
I have 2 Hachiya and a Saijo astringents and my non astringents are 2 Jiro, 2 Fuyu and a Izu. Of all my fruits and berries these are my favorites.
I've been looking forward to some new persimmon videos!
Persimmon pudding is my favorite. Freeze the pulp and then make the pudding later. I used to ask my grandmother for persimmon pudding each year for my birthday instead of cake. Yum.
Hi Ross this video is very informative and helpful . I also have a rosseyanka and super excited to see it fruit in the coming years. Thanks again for your time buddy.
I pre ordered a meader persimmon this fall. mainly chose meader due to availability, but the variety also came out of New Hampshire which is close to me. Cant wait to grow this plant.
Prok and celebrate are varieties I never heard of I have to look them up Happy New Year
A big plant (tree)very sweet only thrive-well ,when planted in soil.Can get it from Turkey,Japan may be from Spain ,Southern Italy too.
Prok, Nikita’s gift, and 100-46 are mine.🎉
Been waiting for this video. Thanks for posting
Love the video Ross. Couldn't agree more that sometimes you just got to try something new and take the risk to see if you can get some pay off. That's always been very difficult for me because I like to play things safe and do a lot of research to make the right choices but in gardening particularly these more exotic fruits there really isn't extensive research and you just got to make the best decision you can. I got my first 2 persimmons this summer and planted them in mid-September. Two 5 gallon Miss Kim persimmons from edible landscaping. I knew I wanted Asian type astringent dwarf that could survive in my climate zone 7B Edgewater Maryland. My best son area was in my front yard so I also wanted something with good full foliage and Miss Kim was definitely a standout with beautiful red leaves this fall. Miss Kim seems to fit the bill pretty well but I guess only time will tell.
Best sun*, fall foliage*
I started into grafted persimmons with Prok. Got some wood from a friend and stuck it on some wild trees.
I don't really care for the wild ones, but Prok is sweet and delicious. We added 'Wonderful', Prok x HKD, Nikita's gift and Kasandra and I am here hoping to hear about a few one them.
Thanks for this video. You have so many varieties. I love your channel... love so much persimmons ... and figs!
Thank you!
I ended up getting a non-grafted meader from a large online company for zone 5b. I went this route for several reasons. I am confident with my choice but time will tell.
Thanks for sharing. amazing info!
U gotta get a good cam that focuses well as you move. latest cellphone cameras are better nowadays! id love to see 4k details
I had a Jiro that dropped all its fruitlets every year for almost ten years after putting it in the ground, then suddenly last year it carried about 300 fruit to maturity. Watching it closely this year.
Sadly, it dropped pretty much all its fruit again this year. I would love to know what was so special about last year.
Hello, do you need more then 1 Persimmon tree for them to Pollenate.
Thank you 👍🏻
Only some do. Do your research before buying.
Orin Martin teaches Summer pruning. He mentioned that it gets fruit trees to grow fruit spurs years faster than if you didn’t Summer prune.
Trust me, you have a lot more than 300 fruitlets on that tree currently. And yes, cutting up and freezing works well for things like smoothies. For Jiro at least, I had to be careful about how I thawed them for use in cereals and stuff. They don’t have the same texture, but are still sweet and relatively firm if I don’t overheat when thawing. Get them up to room temp or a little below, and use immediately.
Great video. Could you provide a link to the commercial summer pruning video your friend sent you?
We found a wild Viginiana that has a distinct Orange flavor. Amazing. I have it's location marked for sure. I'm really sorry that so many of your branches broke. That really hurts
It's all good!
Sounds like a promising seedling.
I’m picking up some wild persimmon tree starts soon. Do they also take 5-7 years to produce? Also will introducing an American cultivar nearby improve their fruit?
Can you please recommend 2 or 3 varieties for zone 7a?
subscribed.
would you sell the snapped branch or a graft? I'm interested in buying them please.
I also would like to buy some persimmon, I see you are in PA.
let know if I can buy please.
How can you handle all those fruit tree during the start of the season? Do you spray any insecticide?
Great stuff, thank you for sharing, Ross!
My pleasure!
Thanks for the video. I planted a young persimmon tree this spring. Now the leafs are curled with their edges burned (brown). I don’t see aphis or any other insects. I have applied some fungicides but it doesn’t seem to help. Do you know what could be the issues? Thanks!
How's your tree doing? Do you think maybe it got sun shock?
@@neocaridaniel8220 Not sure. It doesn't do well but still alive. It doesn't seem it's something to do with insects. Most of its leafs stay curled (not healthy looking). Hope it will survive its first year. Thanks for the followup.
I have really been thinking about growing persimmon I just have never eaten them. Im worried about the stringent flavor
Trust me, it's one of the best tasting fruits you can grow.
I grow Fuyu out in Delco, and it puts out tons of fruit and behaves pretty similar to your Jiro. Do you have to compete with squirrels on harvesting your persimmons when they start to ripen? Also have you tried to propagate any of the varieties you currently have?
I trap the squirrels in my neighborhood. It's the only way. I have grafted a couple trees.
I used to live in Delco. It’s devastating how many squirrels out there. They devouring everything you grow
Hi Ross! Which variety would you recommend for American persimmon for zone 7a? I was eyeing Prok for a long time, but reading a few comments like 'it's rather bland' is making me indecisive. What's your take on hybrids compared to American astringent like say Nikita's gift, which seems popular amongst persimmon enthusiasts? Any input is appreciated.
Those comments are wrong. It's far from bland. Don't trust whoever said that.
Hybrids are meant for growers in cold climates. In zone 5 and 6. They combine the American's hardiness with the Asian's size and eating quality. If I was in those zones, I would grow one to make hoshigaki every year.
@@RossRaddi I have also read comments on some fruit forums some people claiming Prok was bland. The discussion I read had two camps, half saying it was bland, half saying it was amazing. Some people were guessing maybe the tree takes a few years to produce good tasting fruit. Others were thinking maybe there were actually two different varieties being sold wrongly under the same name.
It can happen. Fruit trees to get mislabeled and some nurseries are not as judicious as others.
I am doing a Persimmon (and home orchard) journey in general. I have Ichi Ki Kei Jiro and Prok planted. I will be acquiring an Izu and Nikita's Gift and I am going to try grafting 100-46, Mikkusu, and Zima Khurma. I wanted a little of everything. Non astringent, American, and Hybrids. From what I saw, astringent Asians didn't seem worth it as American has better fresh eating and hybrids have decent size for drying as well as better taste (if not as good as American).
@@LC-wv7tz I have several Prok trees and one produces fruit that is much better than the others.
It's fantastic, never astringent. I have one Prok that is often astringent, so I can't always count on that tree. I don't know why. They are all from the same cuttings going onto wild trees.
At what stage do you pick the persimmons to make hoshigaki?
Before they start to soften.
Bro needs to do some more aggressive pruning with that density of planting
What the reason your persimmon seedling so big, or why do you waiting so long for grafting?
I've had a few failures on that one.
I graft on top of trees that are wild and sometimes are 10+ years old and 1-1/2" on the trunk size where I cut and work it.
Is there a persimmon variety that is container friendly? Thanks.
The Asian persimmons make great container plants.
Which persimmon has best taste, least amnt of issues, etc... astringent vs non-astringent? Thanks!
Prok is the best fresh. I talk about this at the end of the video.
@@RossRaddi thank you very much!
With my lack of expertise, I would say Hachiya
Jiro is delicious fresh.
Would you pls explain to me The Summer Burning (if I said it right)? I have the same tree, I would like to do what you have done. Or if you could send me your videos. Where canI fined your VIDEOS? Pls help me.
This is the only video I've got on it. Still nothing on actually performing the technique: ua-cam.com/video/t7ZmqzUFOpc/v-deo.html
where do you get your persimmon plant from?
He mentions edible landscaping in the video. My guess is there. They have the varieties he talks about here.
@@i5usko Thanks, I must have missed it. I will check it out.
There's quite a few nurseries I recommend: www.figboss.com/post/must-grow-fruit-trees-vines-shrubs-in-a-backyard-orchard
my Nikita’s gift in full sun fruited in 3 years. i harvested after a few frosts and let them get soft. i didnt find them that sweet at all. the flavor was ok, nothing impressive. maybe it needs a few years or persimmons are not for me.
They are incredibly sweet. Hopefully you have better results this year. For many years I wasn't sure if I liked American persimmons. Each time I tried them, they were fermented and tasted like cleaning products.
@@RossRaddi maybe my tree is still to young. i will give it a few years. im not getting that fig sweetness many describe. i picked and tried them at many stages of ripeness. i know the chalky taste lol. i noticed in some the core would be black like they spoiled or didnt form correct. i still have a few sitting outside all wrinkled up. they are soft not jelly yet.
The fig boss must kill it on dating apps!
I have such a hard time with rabbits deer groundhogs and gophers killing my trees and shrubs. I hope they grow back in the spring. Not much left above the graft on 80% of what I planted and cared for. Between them and the caterpillars stinkbugs and slugs I have a hard time getting any fruit at all. Man gardening is rough. I don't know that I will buy replacements. It's such a big time and money investment. I also don't feel that I can find a fruit that holds a candle to strawberries which I have better luck with to a small degree. Of course I do live in zone 6 so it's hard to find things that can take the cold. I think my persimmons will make it but I'm not sure. I was in shock that they even went for my pawpaws as I didn't think anything would eat the vegetation on those. Oh and I also have a horrible bird and rodent problem on top of that. Not to mention the raccoons, skunks, and opossums.
I live next to a huge Texas lake and the entire lake is thousands of acres of wildlife refuge. I have a lot of everything you mentioned except groundhogs and the yellow differential grasshopper species is by far worse than anything you mentioned. They kill trees in bad years and even eat the bark on the twigs. I have 8 acres and hundreds of trees and I have to cage everything to keep the deer off them somewhat. I’m in sand and gophers are very bad in easy digging sand. Get you some Trapline Gophenator traps and you’ll knock a big dent on those gophers. I bet I’ve killed over a thousand with them. I killed 26 the first day I got my traps. Victor gopher traps are junk. They’re too weak and once a gopher escapes they get very hard to trap again. I gave mine away. I use my cinch gopher traps on the bigger gopher holes. The Traplines fit better in the normal size holes. I use those in about 90% and the cinch traps in the other 10%.