Hello John, my name is George, and I have to say, after listening to your discussion with David Fuller, from Rebel Wisdom, and after only watching two of the many videos that you provide on your channel (wisdom and meditation) well... I have to say, that you are a godsend, a positive inspiration, and personally, a much needed one in my life currently. You are providing the tools and laying out a path, that one can use to help chip away at the negative build up, that we have allowed to embed itself in the fiber of our being. This negativity is like a parasite that takes on many forms.... bad habits that affect the physical aspect of our biology and health, i.e. gluttony, drug abuse, lethargy, neglecting appropriate maintenance of ones vessel, one's "shell" etc.... of the mind, poisoning of, if you will ., i.e. depression, arrogance, hate, self loathing, denial, extreme and continued pessimistic thought, unfair and blind judgement of others etc.... And, of the soul and spirit, breaking free from a useless narrative.. i.e. there is only nothingness after death.. disagreement with the idea that there is something much greater within oneself, and the world in which one lives, even after death. I sense your passion for that which you are embarking on, it's genuine and vibrant, and more importantly, contagious! You are the catalyst for the excitement and sense of urgency within me, to improve my foundation and understanding of that which is meaning. Thank you for providing everyone with this information that comes from your hard work and devotion! I look forward to following your lectures/speeches and reading more of your work.
Oh my god.. This was so perfect. You have just described something I have been living past few years in such an elegant and insightful way.. Thank you so much for your work
Active Open mindedness is something I've been thinking about for quite a while now, its pretty cool to hear a formalization of it. thanks for making this!
I've been seriously sharing this video to others for almost 6 years now. Truly a great starting point that opens up so much. Long live the 9 dot problem!
It's interesting how we ignore the Page, the Page to us means "nothing" and yet without it there is nothing to see! The Page is really the primary space of knowing and our words are secondary.
Wisdom is consistent, intelligent application of knowledge; wisdom obtains knowledge - where knowledge is of course empirical verification of what is stated falsifiably as the case.
not getting less wise is good. I have to watch the video again to fully understand the ideas. I understood it the first time, just have to go over it again. most of the videos of wisdom that I saw the title for seemed like they were pertaining to religion.
Prepositional knowing is all mind and not experience, it's like book learning, processing written down data. You can sit on your couch and do it. Procedural knowing is like the knowing we get from experience. It's like shooting a basketball, you can't learn it without a hoop and a basketball. Even our experience with English, we only know what words mean because of experience. But we can't make sense of any other language, that we aren't familiar with because of lack of experience. So it takes propositions and experience to really learn and internalize.
TiticatFollies He's enthusiastic, not agitated. That's what happens when you become passionate about your work. He's also a professor, & professors tend to be very intellectual :). If you listen to the talk from that perspective, then it's easier + very interesting!
Inner calm is not always rational; neither should it be the primary goal of existence (or even meditation for that matter) or the definition of an ultimate logos..an integrated perspective of being based on these principles, on the other hand, IS
Vervaeke has 4 types of knowing now...participatory... possibly being the most important..is #4 in his contemporaneous work
Four _so far_
I wonder if he's trapped himself into a similar box as the 9 dot problem needing them to all start with p's lol
Hello John, my name is George, and I have to say, after listening to your discussion with David Fuller, from Rebel Wisdom, and after only watching two of the many videos that you provide on your channel (wisdom and meditation) well... I have to say, that you are a godsend, a positive inspiration, and personally, a much needed one in my life currently.
You are providing the tools and laying out a path, that one can use to help chip away at the negative build up, that we have allowed to embed itself in the fiber of our being. This negativity is like a parasite that takes on many forms.... bad habits that affect the physical aspect of our biology and health, i.e. gluttony, drug abuse, lethargy, neglecting appropriate maintenance of ones vessel, one's "shell" etc....
of the mind, poisoning of, if you will ., i.e. depression, arrogance, hate, self loathing, denial, extreme and continued pessimistic thought, unfair and blind judgement of others etc....
And, of the soul and spirit, breaking free from a useless narrative.. i.e. there is only nothingness after death.. disagreement with the idea that there is something much greater within oneself, and the world in which one lives, even after death.
I sense your passion for that which you are embarking on, it's genuine and vibrant, and more importantly, contagious! You are the catalyst for the excitement and sense of urgency within me, to improve my foundation and understanding of that which is meaning. Thank you for providing everyone with this information that comes from your hard work and devotion! I look forward to following your lectures/speeches and reading more of your work.
Oh my god.. This was so perfect. You have just described something I have been living past few years in such an elegant and insightful way.. Thank you so much for your work
Active Open mindedness is something I've been thinking about for quite a while now, its pretty cool to hear a formalization of it. thanks for making this!
I've been seriously sharing this video to others for almost 6 years now. Truly a great starting point that opens up so much.
Long live the 9 dot problem!
It can be argued that wisdom affords freedom-from as well as freedom-to.
Wisdom is knowing true Self
Intelligence is the ego
Iife unfolds effortlessly and harmoniously from the thought free state
An excellent explication of wisdom
Brilliant.
The perspectival knowing is like a synthesis of rationalism and empiricism. Very similar to Kant's ideas about knowledge.
It's interesting how we ignore the Page, the Page to us means "nothing" and yet without it there is nothing to see! The Page is really the primary space of knowing and our words are secondary.
Wisdom is consistent, intelligent application of knowledge; wisdom obtains knowledge - where knowledge is of course empirical verification of what is stated falsifiably as the case.
Fantastic... I have to write it down and think about it a bit longer so I can really get it into me.... but I feel it.... it's nice!
Thank you
Thanks for sharing. Very interesting and helpful.
Feeding into the zombie analogy. Prepping seems meaningful. When you have no meaning or, when you have meaning and it's being threatened?
Excellent video! I guess this is a bit too meta for most people.
+KiwiFuel I agree, for most it is too meta. Have you gotten a better understanding of wisdom since you watched this video?
I suppose... I haven't gotten less wise. I may have gotten less prudent, but that's for other reasons.
not getting less wise is good. I have to watch the video again to fully understand the ideas. I understood it the first time, just have to go over it again. most of the videos of wisdom that I saw the title for seemed like they were pertaining to religion.
+liming I would recommend watching an extended version of this lecture if you haven't. It's much more comprehensive. "Cognitive Science of Wisdom".
Prepositional knowing is all mind and not experience, it's like book learning, processing written down data. You can sit on your couch and do it. Procedural knowing is like the knowing we get from experience. It's like shooting a basketball, you can't learn it without a hoop and a basketball. Even our experience with English, we only know what words mean because of experience. But we can't make sense of any other language, that we aren't familiar with because of lack of experience. So it takes propositions and experience to really learn and internalize.
Oh gosh! I didn't get a word..Can someone explain what this all meant and how can one apply this to life?
Thank you, John. Beautiful work and presentation.
Great!
I agree.
To have wisdom you need to loose and then you learn
Better than Einstein, baby!
Epictetus
"Wisdom is self-transcending rationality"
Me likes. Me gain wisdom one day. after me learns language.
The correct thing to do may always not be the wise thing to do. Debate :
How so
The fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom.
What do you mean by "fear"?
Elizabeth Innes Great point. I like that. Keep it up.
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I think fearing something unknowable is more like the end of wisdom.
Very intellectual. Hard to listen to, he's so agitated. The man needs to gain some inner calm and true inner wisdom.
TiticatFollies He's enthusiastic, not agitated. That's what happens when you become passionate about your work. He's also a professor, & professors tend to be very intellectual :). If you listen to the talk from that perspective, then it's easier + very interesting!
That"s just his face :p
Keep in mind he was giving a 10 minute talk about a whole course.
Inner calm is not always rational; neither should it be the primary goal of existence (or even meditation for that matter) or the definition of an ultimate logos..an integrated perspective of being based on these principles, on the other hand, IS
Thank you! I agree with you. A wise person would not waste time explaining wisdom in such a hurry.