The Beatles not only recorded some of the greatest songs of all time, they also had a sense of humor. That’s what separated them from Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd & the rest. Life isn’t always serious.
@@cadereimer6163 Yes, both but particularly The Who. The Beatles and Who are definitely the funniest bands of their era. Then the '70s hit and everything got mega moody and serious.
Only the verses. The chorus was Paul. Then they changed John’s lyrics to fit Paul’s concept. John said so himself and that’s why he considered it to be a Paul song.
That's a bit upside-down. The first idea was Paul's, he came up with the concept, the title, and the complete chorus - these are John's assertions, not mine. John had a fragment hanging around from a song that he never got round to writing, and offered this - a tune and the "In the town where I was born" opening - as a basis for some verses. They then wrote the verse lyrics together, with a helping suggestion from Donovan. So that "early demo" of John's was not a demo of Yellow Submarine in any sense, because that concept did not even exist. It was more in the nature of a "memo" John jotted down for a completely different song that he thought he might write, but never did.
@@strathman7501Yeah but John was the lead singer when they first started working on it together. That's called the '2nd songwriting work tape' on the Revolver deluxe release, and you can hear Paul on it, and may have been at Abbey Road.
Nop, the chorus was Paul's and the melody and the bases of the lyrics to malke new lyrics for the verse came from John. There're interviews from 1968 telling the story. From that time they said it was a song made up from two songs of both of them. Later, they changed a bit of the story. John was the first to start changing the story. Maybe he was ashamed of it and that's why he changed his mind of who made that song. But I'm only making assumptions about thta part. The rest are facts well documented in videos, books and tapes.
@@julessabio It's basically what I said, except for "the bases of lyrics". Actually,, the only "base" was "In the town were I was born...". That's it. So both wrote the song. Paul came up with a chorus. John had the verse melody. They wrote the lyrics together with a little help from their friend Donovan ('sea of green').
Yes he was there, or not even born. Wtf has everything has to be chewed over and over, how it's done is not important, the music lives on, and I am sick and tired of these so called pop expert, who F weren't even born then! I am the Beatles age, and wasn't there.
I was just thinking about an interview w/John, where He asked the "mariners" to give Nautical Terms(for authenticity). Unsure where I heard that interview.
@R.Akerman-oz1tf June 1980 John and his 4 y/o son, Sean took a 2 month holiday and sailed 700 miles from Rhode Island to Bermuda. I read all about it in a magazine article. They encountered powerful stormy weather; John at the helm💦🌊⛵️ when they finally made it to the island 🏝his muse was back. After 5years of not writing a single song, the songs just flowed out effortlessly and onto what became his last album: Double Fantasy
@@R.Akerman-oz1tf Alfred "Freddie" Lennon (father of John) was a merchant seaman during WWII and was gone away for a long time. Possibly part of the reason John wanted to feel what it was like to be a sailor.
Hearing Lennons demo of Yellow Submarine was astonishing. My whole life i´ve taken McCartneys "-Yellow Submarines all mine" for granted. It makes you wonder how much more secrets there are out there. It also makes me think that In My Life is mostly Lennons, despite McCartney claims.
We'll never know, really. John claims he wrote half of the lyrics of Eleanor Rigby; Paul denies it. Who knows who's right? That's why I don't delve into it.
It smacks of a lack of graciousness for Paul to be all over John's songs, saying how much he wrote of them. He's now even claiming the beginning of If I Fell. John's not around to refute it. Please let it go, Paul!
They were both such egomaniacs and had such a consuming rivalry that we will never know. One of them will claim they wrote a song entirely on their own only to have the other deny and say they were the one who wrote a certain aspect of said song.
I get so tired of people saying it’s really a John song. John himself said it was Paul’s. They did use the tune for the verse and one line of lyrics from John’s song but the song was rewritten to suit Paul’s chorus concept-according to John himself.
John came up with the original verse idea, then Paul came up with the chorus and the whole Yellow Submarine concept, they then both (with help from others) rewrote the verse lyrics to suit. Not that complicated really is it.
The evidence indicates that Lennon not only wrote "Yellow Submarine" but also much of "I've Got A Feeling" (mainly the riff and melody), despite what Lennon later said. It was very common for him to give up authorship of songs that were not his style. Lennon also clarified in 1971 that he always had to please Paul, even if it meant that the latter recorded his songs."
So the verse melody was John's and the chorus was Paul's. The lyrics sound much more Paul than John. John's original lyrics were much more John... 'in the place where I was born no one cared, no one cared' working through his childhood trauma, as he so often did. Paul discarded the no one cared bit in favour of a more whimsical story. And I'd call that a collaboration, a true Lennon/McCartney. Like 'A Day in the Life', but not nearly as good.
From the information, I can't judge who really is the main writer and, like some other obscure cases, I don't really believe in all John and Paul's memory. But the song seems very McCartney characteristically. Maybe he worked on it more than John. It doesn't matter much anyway.
It's fairly basic. There is no main writer. John had the melody and chords for the verse . And Paul added the melody and chords for the chorus. The lyrics were thrashed out between them ( and Donovan contributed about six words).
I've always felt the voices in the chorus sounded quite tired, or even bored. It's hard to imagine when you really closely listen to the voices that it was a raucous party atmosphere in which it was recorded
Fan since 1964. Never read the bios by latter day “fans .” John wrote roughly, the verses. There wasn’t a chorus when he was played it in the studio. Paul came up with the chorus and John helped him alter it a little bit. Lennon /McCartney. Yes. This is the truth in 1966. If you believe anything that Paul says now is considered totally false, embellished. It ALWAYS promotes Paul. Always. 😠 By the way, that reference to Supercar may go back to the British television program, which I watched in the United States, Supercar is what it was called. The show was called Supercar. And was made with marionettes in Supermarionation!😅❤❤❤
It seems like I've heard Paul say this about a few of his songs, that they were conceptualized on the edge of sleep, or in a dream. That only happened to me once, but it wasn't a song, it was a poem. It came to me fully formed and I had to jump up and scribble it down before I lost it. I just happened to have signed up for a poetry class that semester and that was right before my first poem was due. It didn't change any of it, jist took it in. I read it and my teacher was really impressed. He said he wouldn't change a word of it. A couple people came up to me after class and said they really liked it. So, everybody, including the teacher thinks I'm some kind of prodigy or whatever... Until it was time for pur second poem. I didn't dream any more great verses, so my second poem (and all the ones after) were just me. And I'm not that great of a writer. By the end of the semester, I think everyone in the class probably thpught I copied that first poem from someplace because I could never write anything half that good for the rest of my life.🤣
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@@joegordon2915 and they are missing the chorus too, which was Paul's. It's clearly a song made up from two different songs and they told that in 1967.
What happened here is that for YEARS everyone assumed it was Paul's song, so all the John fans acted like I wasn't not a very good song at all. Then when it surfaced that he had recorded this demo of the verses in 3/4rs time, all the John fans were like "Paul is trying to get credit for a song because John isn't around any more to defend himself"--and now it's suddenly a GREAT SONG to them, because they think John originated it. But no one needs to defend either one of them, or attack the other one, because they each had a part in creating it--how good any Beatles song is doesn't have to be determined by the authorship.
I always took for granted that it was Paul's. But listening to that doleful melody and lyrics as recorded on the studio samples it sounds so completely John. I do recognize that the refrain of 'We All Live in a Yellow Submarine" sounds so completely Paul. I would compare this to 'Baby You're a Rich Man', The verses are John.s, The chorus is Paul.
Have you ever thought about this line? "And our friends are all aboard...many more of them live next door." Think about it. Your friends are ALL aboard. Many more of them...? There AREN'T any more of them! They're ALL aboard! All present and accounted for!
@@joegordon2915 John always called his own songs "a Paul song" when in future retrospect he decided he did not like the song, or if he thought it was just words and no substance. I think John became very critical of his own songs, especially if he thought people were applying meaning to his lyrics, so he would throw a verified John song Paul's way, unlike Paul who loved to claim credit on as many songs as he possibly could, even when it's verified a John song only by Mr Martin, George and Ringo.
@@katielee705 I'm afraid this is nonsense. YS is not one of John's "own songs" and you don't need to look at John's "future retrospect" to find him telling you that. You can hear him telling you that explicitly, in company with Paul and interviewer Brian Matthew, *in 1967:* Paul brought in the concept, the title, and the finished chorus, and they (and Donovan) wrote the rest together based on a bit of a completely unrelated tune that John had lying around unused, with the words "In the town where I was born...". As for those songs "verified a John song only, by Mr Martin, George and Ringo", for which you say Paul claims credit, what are the titles?
@@katielee705 That's quite funny statement. It was John Lennon who had problems with Zappa for putting his authorship in a Zappa's song. It seems John DID like to claim songs that weren't his as if they were.
Hope Sir Paul may forgive me making 0:51 GermanTitanic version out of it: 'Wir steuern alle auf den Untergang zu, 🎶 Untergang zu 🎶 Untergang zu' Refrain
nope....It only says that part of the melody and some lines of the lyrics came from John. The other part of the song (chorus) and the change of the lyrics and some part of the melody of the verse were made by Paul and John in collaboratios as they told in 1967-1968. They told the story before John became ashamed of the song (or whatever happened in his mind to stop admitiing that this song is one example of 50-50 collaboration).
@@julessabio you can literally hear the first demo of the track just John strumming the chord progression and singing the melody. If that’s not enough proof for you then I don’t know what to tell ya lol
@@jimruggiero5241 proof of what? It's a song made up of 2 songs and they told that in 1967. The melody of the verses was a bit changed by Paul and both of them changed the original lyrics of John's part to fit Paul's chorus. The idea of the song was based on the chorus and that's why they changed the lyrics in the way they did. The only proof I need is them explaining how it happened. They did that at the time so it's quite stupid trying to change what they explained.oh my god the demo of John's part, which most of us could imagine that could exit appeared. I can't believe that the demo backs up what they told in 1967, ahhahaha
Every Beatle song written by either Lennon and/or McCartney, says: “Lennon/McCartney.” (by an agreement made between John & Paul back in the early 1960s) Lennon, had nothing to do with “Yesterday” nor “Hey Jude” (and several other songs) but they all still say Lennon/McCartney.
John wrote the all-important main melody . Yet we were to believe that it was all Paul. It’s not the only case ..a great collaboration though . Geoff Is not a great source
@@tool_fighter Yeah, the chorus and the idea of the Yellow Submarine. There are at least 5 books that I've read that say the exact same thing as this video--and three of them were published 25 years ago.
@@julessabio Well it's reasonable to say that the person who had the concept, the title, and the chorus, and who brought this in to be finished jointly, was the one who "started" it. According to Lennon, that was McCartney.
well. Actually John did that. Why blaming Paul for that? hahaha It seems John was ashamed and preffered changing the story. At first he used to say it was from both of them and little by little he gave the whole credit to Paul.
"Yellow Submarine" (by John and Paul)--lead Ringo: "This is a load of rubbish, really. I take the mickey out of myself on the piano and play stuff like this. I think they know it's not that good." Ray Davies 1966
“In 1980, Lennon talked further about the song: ‘Yellow Submarine' is Paul's baby. Donovan helped with the lyrics. I helped with the lyrics too. We virtually made the track come alive in the studio, but based on Paul's inspiration. Paul's idea. Paul's title ... written for Ringo." Paul helped Donovan write Donovan’s ‘Mellow Yellow.’
Paul, in the book "Many Years From Now" on pages 286-287 is quoted as saying that except for several words, he wrote all of the song "Yellow Submarine". I am very inclined to believe Paul because in the same book he generously credited Lennon with helping him to write a number of songs on the Sgt. Pepper album which we all thought were exclusively "Paul songs". Way back in 1972 I purchased the Hit Parader magazine about Lennon's recollection of who wrote what in The Beatles and since then Lennon has been all over the place. He lies! Paul has been consistent and he almost always is willing to share the "glory".
There are sources from 1967 talking about this song. In an interview, from 1967 or 1968, after them winning a prize for "Yellow Sumbarine" they told they mixed two songs (John: verses with lyrics and a bit of the melody changed; Paul: chorus and changed the melody and the lyrics of the verses with John). Later on. John started changing the story bit by bit and Paul continued with this tendecy.
What are you talking about? John's Hit Parader comment in 1972 and both their comments in the 1967 interview make clear the verses were John and the chorus Paul.
@@gettinhungrig8806 It's an inconsequential song but I still believe Paul in "Many Years From Now". "Best buds" tend to give each other credit they don't deserve but given some time and separation then the truth comes out. Still, Paul did credit John for working on the "Paul songs" of Sgt. Pepper.
@@bryanmachin2152 What we have now, though, are other people speaking out about what they have seen and heard IN PERSON. These people were not interviewed back then. Yellow Submarine is close to being a throwaway song so who really cares who wrote what. However, take Eleanor Rigby for example, now that is a very important song which Lennon claimed to have had a huge role in its writing. However, people who witnessed Paul writing the song have said that John's contribution was "virtually nil".
I lived all that and saw them twice. Ringo and George were the primary contributors.Whatever Lennon and McCartney might have added was not anything major. I'm fairly sure it was Ringo's song and Ringo was not just a drummer. He could actually play key boards.
@@BeatlesBible1 To refine that: the concept, the title, and the chorus, were Paul's. The verse tune and the opening lines were John's. The rest of the lyrics were written by both men together (with a bit of help from Donovan).
@@daytripper9222 I don't know what it is you think *you're* doing, but it isn't history of any kind. John Lennon: "Paul's brainchild. Donovan assisted with the lyrics. I also played a part in shaping the lyrics. Paul conceived the concept and title, so i consider it a Paul composition." (1979) John Lennon: "Paul wrote the catchy chorus. I helped with the blunderbuss bit." (1972) Brian Matthew interview 1967: BM: Who was principally responsible? John: Paul . . . Paul: {simultaneously] John, really . . . John: No, no, no . . . Ringo BM: I see! Paul: [laughing] It's the old patty, you know, the old vaudeville. Er, I suppose I thought of the idea, and then John and I wrote it. There's your correct answer, Brian. BM: John we were talking to you earlier before we started recording, and you said it was in effect written as two separate songs. John: Yeah, I seem to remember the submarine, the chorus bit, you [Paul] coming in with . . . Paul: Yeah John: . . . and wasn't the other bit something i had already going . . . ? Paul: Yeah, right, it was one of those, yeah. . . . John: . . . and we put em together to make sense Paul: He had the bit [sings opening line] "da d'daaa, d'da d'daaa" There's more....
Once again, another song I thought (or was lead to believe from earlier books in my youth) was written by John, was mostly Paul. There labeling should have been McCarney - (and sometimes) Lennon.
nope. The first i nformation of this songs tells the story quite clearly. Tow songs were put together to make up the final song. I can't tell why John came ashamed of the song and start denying part of this song was his and Paul took advantages of this and claimed it his.
Not at all. If you analyse it - mainly from what the two of them have said over the years - they're pretty even with if anything John slightly ahead. Yellow Sub was 50/50.
I'm convinced the inspiration for the Yellow Submarine came from either Paul or John's jealousy of Mick Jaggers new song 'Mother's Little Helper' about a "little yellow pill" Hey lets write something about something long and yellow as well. After a nights sleep and a few spliffs you got an imaginative new song for the album.
Even The Ballad of John and Yoko? Or would you mind being more specific? In March 1981 Phiip Norman published a book called Shout!, in which he declard John being 75 per cent of the Beatles. From Paul's point of view, THAT is the revisionist history. And for about ten or fifteen years, that account went totally unchallenged by anybody, pretty much until the Anthology, or even further into the 2000s. Ever since Shout!, and the remainder of the Lennon Remembers narrative, Paul was always having to defend himself, even for being alive, so for Paul, even cuncurring with John's own statments in 1980, calling this a McCartney song on which Lennon himself only contributed with the "blunderness bit", makes the Lennon fanboys furious! John Lennon: “Paul wrote the catchy chorus. I helped with the blunderbuss bit.” In 1980 he described the song as "Paul’s baby. Donovan helped with the lyrics. I helped with the lyrics too…Paul’s idea, Paul’s title - so I count it as a Paul song…written for Ringo."
I heard a JL interview on the radio where he states that they almost NEVER wrote face to face; Please, Please Me, She Loves You, I Want To Hold Your Hand, etc... were 95% JL. JL was FURIOUS that PM would add a lyric line and state the song was 50/50.
@@MarriedMindlessLennon wrote the majority of songs up until about 1965. He wrote 10 of the 13 songs on 'A Hard Days Night'. He definitely wrote Please Please Me by himself.
@@michaelharrington75 Paul and John were always neck & neck in song writing. In those early years Paul gave away many songs to help out other artists. Paul was dating Jane Asher and he gave Jane's bother Peter (Peter & Gordon) four songs and he gave his friend Cilla Black three songs and he gave Billy J. Kramer at least two songs (John gave Billy J. Kramer only one of his songs). These were not covers but songs that the Beatles never released but GAVE AWAY. Of the 25 songs that The Beatles gave away only about 4-5 were John songs and one was a Harrison song. Additionally McCartney wrote two music compositions for the 1966 movie "The Family Way". George Harrison did all of the songs and music for the 1968 film "Wonder Wall". John was very stingy with his music and songs.
The Beatles not only recorded some of the greatest songs of all time, they also had a sense of humor. That’s what separated them from Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd & the rest. Life isn’t always serious.
Stones sense of humor good too. Listen to Under Assistant West Coast Promo Man and Faraway Eyes. Mick has a very elastic sense of humor.
The Kinks and The Who had that aspect too
@@cadereimer6163 Yes, both but particularly The Who. The Beatles and Who are definitely the funniest bands of their era. Then the '70s hit and everything got mega moody and serious.
Totally. Unfortunately a lot of people have lost their sense of humour and see anything that isn't deep and melancholic as unworthy.
Floyd had a lot of fun during The Final Cut. One would say they didn't have a happier time than on that album's sessions.
The early demos are John's. Paul then pitched in.....that's how they worked.
Only the verses. The chorus was Paul. Then they changed John’s lyrics to fit Paul’s concept. John said so himself and that’s why he considered it to be a Paul song.
That's a bit upside-down. The first idea was Paul's, he came up with the concept, the title, and the complete chorus - these are John's assertions, not mine. John had a fragment hanging around from a song that he never got round to writing, and offered this - a tune and the "In the town where I was born" opening - as a basis for some verses. They then wrote the verse lyrics together, with a helping suggestion from Donovan. So that "early demo" of John's was not a demo of Yellow Submarine in any sense, because that concept did not even exist. It was more in the nature of a "memo" John jotted down for a completely different song that he thought he might write, but never did.
In the Playboy interview (1980) John said that Yellow Submarine is a Paul's baby!
@@strathman7501Yeah but John was the lead singer when they first started working on it together. That's called the '2nd songwriting work tape' on the Revolver deluxe release, and you can hear Paul on it, and may have been at Abbey Road.
@@gettinhungrig8806 Ok, not sure what you're getting at.
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Yellow Submarine is 50/50...
Much like With A Little Help From My Friends
Yes
Both. Paul came up with a chorus. John had the verse melody. They wrote the lyrics together with a little help from their friend Donovan.
Nop, the chorus was Paul's and the melody and the bases of the lyrics to malke new lyrics for the verse came from John. There're interviews from 1968 telling the story. From that time they said it was a song made up from two songs of both of them. Later, they changed a bit of the story. John was the first to start changing the story. Maybe he was ashamed of it and that's why he changed his mind of who made that song. But I'm only making assumptions about thta part. The rest are facts well documented in videos, books and tapes.
@@julessabio It's basically what I said, except for "the bases of lyrics". Actually,, the only "base" was "In the town were I was born...". That's it. So both wrote the song. Paul came up with a chorus. John had the verse melody. They wrote the lyrics together with a little help from their friend Donovan ('sea of green').
@@paulbadoo9326 Sorry. I guess I didn't intend to write to you, otherwise I dont know why I wrote this to you.
Lennon even had the bass line, the bass notes on his guitar
I didn't realize it was such a collaborative effort...thanks for the new perspective! 😊
Yes he was there, or not even born. Wtf has everything has to be chewed over and over, how it's done is not important, the music lives on, and I am sick and tired of these so called pop expert, who F weren't even born then! I am the Beatles age, and wasn't there.
@@cirrus1964 This is all because both of their names appear on the credits. It's as simple as that.
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I was just thinking about an interview w/John, where He asked the "mariners" to give Nautical Terms(for authenticity). Unsure where I heard that interview.
@R.Akerman-oz1tf June 1980 John and his 4 y/o son, Sean took a 2 month holiday and sailed 700 miles
from Rhode Island to Bermuda. I read all about it in a magazine article. They encountered powerful stormy weather; John at the helm💦🌊⛵️ when they finally made it to the island 🏝his muse was back. After 5years of not writing a single song, the songs just flowed out effortlessly and onto what became his last album:
Double Fantasy
@@R.Akerman-oz1tf Alfred "Freddie" Lennon (father of John) was a merchant seaman during WWII and was gone away for a long time. Possibly part of the reason John wanted to feel what it was like to be a sailor.
@@LucyLennon20 I believe John sailed a yacht thru very bad weather.
@@LucyLennon20 That's must have been what I was thinking. TYSM !
Hearing Lennons demo of Yellow Submarine was astonishing. My whole life i´ve taken McCartneys "-Yellow Submarines all mine" for granted. It makes you wonder how much more secrets there are out there. It also makes me think that In My Life is mostly Lennons, despite McCartney claims.
In my life is 90 percent John
10 percent Paul
We'll never know, really. John claims he wrote half of the lyrics of Eleanor Rigby; Paul denies it. Who knows who's right? That's why I don't delve into it.
It smacks of a lack of graciousness for Paul to be all over John's songs, saying how much he wrote of them. He's now even claiming the beginning of If I Fell. John's not around to refute it. Please let it go, Paul!
@@BeatlesBible1 Paul does admit that George came up with the opening chorus.
They were both such egomaniacs and had such a consuming rivalry that we will never know. One of them will claim they wrote a song entirely on their own only to have the other deny and say they were the one who wrote a certain aspect of said song.
Billy Shepherd wrote it.
6:00 Someone needs to find the original brass band source material that was sampled for the end of the second verse
I get so tired of people saying it’s really a John song. John himself said it was Paul’s. They did use the tune for the verse and one line of lyrics from John’s song but the song was rewritten to suit Paul’s chorus concept-according to John himself.
@@joegordon2915 I’ve never heard anyone say it was a John song
John came up with the original verse idea, then Paul came up with the chorus and the whole Yellow Submarine concept, they then both (with help from others) rewrote the verse lyrics to suit. Not that complicated really is it.
4me its a Song from Paul and John,,Two of us,, and 4ever the Song Singer is Ringo 😍thank you 4information, Regards from Elli ✌❤
The evidence indicates that Lennon not only wrote "Yellow Submarine" but also much of "I've Got A Feeling" (mainly the riff and melody), despite what Lennon later said. It was very common for him to give up authorship of songs that were not his style. Lennon also clarified in 1971 that he always had to please Paul, even if it meant that the latter recorded his songs."
Obviously John
So the verse melody was John's and the chorus was Paul's. The lyrics sound much more Paul than John.
John's original lyrics were much more John... 'in the place where I was born no one cared, no one cared' working through his childhood trauma, as he so often did.
Paul discarded the no one cared bit in favour of a more whimsical story. And I'd call that a collaboration, a true Lennon/McCartney. Like 'A Day in the Life', but not nearly as good.
The line with "lived a man who sailed to sea" is a reference to John's Dad a sailor who abandoned him. That's why he sings "no-one cared".
@@gettinhungrig8806 yes. It's a proper Lennon/McCartney
The first verse by John was apparently about his father, whom walked out of the family and sailed to sea
From the information, I can't judge who really is the main writer and, like some other obscure cases, I don't really believe in all John and Paul's memory. But the song seems very McCartney characteristically. Maybe he worked on it more than John. It doesn't matter much anyway.
It's fairly basic. There is no main writer. John had the melody and chords for the verse . And Paul added the melody and chords for the chorus. The lyrics were thrashed out between them ( and Donovan contributed about six words).
Pretty cool!!
Mary Jane wrote it
LOL!!
I've always felt the voices in the chorus sounded quite tired, or even bored. It's hard to imagine when you really closely listen to the voices that it was a raucous party atmosphere in which it was recorded
Fan since 1964. Never read the bios by latter day “fans .”
John wrote roughly, the verses. There wasn’t a chorus when he was played it in the studio. Paul came up with the chorus and John helped him alter it a little bit.
Lennon /McCartney. Yes.
This is the truth in 1966.
If you believe anything that Paul says now is considered totally false, embellished. It ALWAYS promotes Paul. Always. 😠
By the way, that reference to Supercar may go back to the British television program, which I watched in the United States, Supercar is what it was called. The show was called Supercar. And was made with marionettes in Supermarionation!😅❤❤❤
It seems like I've heard Paul say this about a few of his songs, that they were conceptualized on the edge of sleep, or in a dream. That only happened to me once, but it wasn't a song, it was a poem. It came to me fully formed and I had to jump up and scribble it down before I lost it. I just happened to have signed up for a poetry class that semester and that was right before my first poem was due. It didn't change any of it, jist took it in. I read it and my teacher was really impressed. He said he wouldn't change a word of it. A couple people came up to me after class and said they really liked it. So, everybody, including the teacher thinks I'm some kind of prodigy or whatever...
Until it was time for pur second poem. I didn't dream any more great verses, so my second poem (and all the ones after) were just me. And I'm not that great of a writer. By the end of the semester, I think everyone in the class probably thpught I copied that first poem from someplace because I could never write anything half that good for the rest of my life.🤣
Lennon/McCartney did! John wrote the melody and chords for the verses, and Paul wrote the chorus. And they worked on the lyrics together!
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I read the book Lennon by Ray Coleman and he said John wrote Yellow Submarine after getting spiked on LSD by his dentist. I believe that version.
Even John said the lyrics were basically a Paul idea. So that story is wrong
@@joegordon2915 and they are missing the chorus too, which was Paul's. It's clearly a song made up from two different songs and they told that in 1967.
Why do you believe that version more than their own words?
@@bryanmachin2152 I guess his messing up songs. He may be talking about Doctor Robert.
What happened here is that for YEARS everyone assumed it was Paul's song, so all the John fans acted like I wasn't not a very good song at all. Then when it surfaced that he had recorded this demo of the verses in 3/4rs time, all the John fans were like "Paul is trying to get credit for a song because John isn't around any more to defend himself"--and now it's suddenly a GREAT SONG to them, because they think John originated it. But no one needs to defend either one of them, or attack the other one, because they each had a part in creating it--how good any Beatles song is doesn't have to be determined by the authorship.
Wait, I'm missing something. What was it that made Paul think the music from *Revolver* was out of tune? Was he ill?
Yup, a Bob rip, as many post-1963 Beatles song concepts were.
I always took for granted that it was Paul's. But listening to that doleful melody and lyrics as recorded on the studio samples it sounds so completely John. I do recognize that the refrain of 'We All Live in a Yellow Submarine" sounds so completely Paul. I would compare this to 'Baby You're a Rich Man', The verses are John.s, The chorus is Paul.
The verse *tune* is John's, but the verse lyrics - after the opening 7 words - are a collaboration.
Have you ever thought about this line? "And our friends are all aboard...many more of them live next door." Think about it. Your friends are ALL aboard. Many more of them...? There AREN'T any more of them! They're ALL aboard! All present and accounted for!
a great example of British nonsense-verse
Just listening to the finished yellow submarine you can tell it's a John song, l have always thought that.
According to John himself, it was two separate songs altered to fit Paul’s concept. So he considered it to be a Paul song.
@@joegordon2915 John always called his own songs "a Paul song" when in future retrospect he decided he did not like the song, or if he thought it was just words and no substance. I think John became very critical of his own songs, especially if he thought people were applying meaning to his lyrics, so he would throw a verified John song Paul's way, unlike Paul who loved to claim credit on as many songs as he possibly could, even when it's verified a John song only by Mr Martin, George and Ringo.
@@katielee705 I'm afraid this is nonsense. YS is not one of John's "own songs" and you don't need to look at John's "future retrospect" to find him telling you that. You can hear him telling you that explicitly, in company with Paul and interviewer Brian Matthew, *in 1967:* Paul brought in the concept, the title, and the finished chorus, and they (and Donovan) wrote the rest together based on a bit of a completely unrelated tune that John had lying around unused, with the words "In the town where I was born...".
As for those songs "verified a John song only, by Mr Martin, George and Ringo", for which you say Paul claims credit, what are the titles?
@@katielee705 That's quite funny statement. It was John Lennon who had problems with Zappa for putting his authorship in a Zappa's song. It seems John DID like to claim songs that weren't his as if they were.
@@julessabioA mistake. Zappa credit went on Scumbag when it should've been on Jamrag.
Hope Sir Paul may
forgive me making 0:51
GermanTitanic version out of it: 'Wir steuern alle
auf den Untergang zu,
🎶 Untergang zu 🎶
Untergang zu' Refrain
I think it’s pretty evident from the Revolver box set demos John penned this track 👍🏼
nope....It only says that part of the melody and some lines of the lyrics came from John. The other part of the song (chorus) and the change of the lyrics and some part of the melody of the verse were made by Paul and John in collaboratios as they told in 1967-1968. They told the story before John became ashamed of the song (or whatever happened in his mind to stop admitiing that this song is one example of 50-50 collaboration).
@@julessabio you can literally hear the first demo of the track just John strumming the chord progression and singing the melody. If that’s not enough proof for you then I don’t know what to tell ya lol
@@jimruggiero5241 proof of what? It's a song made up of 2 songs and they told that in 1967. The melody of the verses was a bit changed by Paul and both of them changed the original lyrics of John's part to fit Paul's chorus. The idea of the song was based on the chorus and that's why they changed the lyrics in the way they did. The only proof I need is them explaining how it happened. They did that at the time so it's quite stupid trying to change what they explained.oh my god the demo of John's part, which most of us could imagine that could exit appeared. I can't believe that the demo backs up what they told in 1967, ahhahaha
Then why even bother listening to this video, and what EACH OF them said about it?
A lot of Lennon/ McCartney songs contained writing contributions from both. That’s why the songwriting credit says “ Lennon/McCartney.”
Thanks Captain !
Every Beatle song written by either Lennon and/or McCartney, says: “Lennon/McCartney.” (by an agreement made between John & Paul back in the early 1960s) Lennon, had nothing to do with “Yesterday” nor “Hey Jude” (and several other songs) but they all still say Lennon/McCartney.
John wrote the all-important main melody . Yet we were to believe that it was all Paul. It’s not the only case ..a great collaboration though .
Geoff Is not a great source
We were not to believe anything--this information has been available for some time.
@@bryanmachin2152 Seems to me like a lot of people think that Paul wrote it , incl Paul
@@tool_fighter Yeah, the chorus and the idea of the Yellow Submarine. There are at least 5 books that I've read that say the exact same thing as this video--and three of them were published 25 years ago.
It sounds more like a Paul McCartney song. But it makes sense that Lennon started it.
Why does it "make sense"? Because in fact he didn't.
Nobody "started" it. It's a song made up of two different songs as it happened with many of their songs.
@@julessabio Well it's reasonable to say that the person who had the concept, the title, and the chorus, and who brought this in to be finished jointly, was the one who "started" it. According to Lennon, that was McCartney.
@@strathman7501 at least it is more reasonable than saying john started it.
Donovan the ghostwriter for Faux Paul on this one
Yawn.
Money’s on Paul with assistance from John.
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Paul going to say he wrote 86 percent of the song
well. Actually John did that. Why blaming Paul for that? hahaha It seems John was ashamed and preffered changing the story. At first he used to say it was from both of them and little by little he gave the whole credit to Paul.
But he doesn't say that. You're just putting words in his mouth because you like John better.
@@slipnorris5882 haha . Yup
"Yellow Submarine" (by John and Paul)--lead Ringo: "This is a load of rubbish, really. I take the mickey out of myself on the piano and play stuff like this. I think they know it's not that good." Ray Davies 1966
Paul
All humor songs like Yellow Submarine or With a little help of my friends and all others are made solely by Paul
I think they co-wrote "With a Little Help" also.
1:40 Pretty sure it's in 4/4 time?
Both
Um…. That once is all Ringo…. Obviously
“In 1980, Lennon talked further about the song: ‘Yellow Submarine' is Paul's baby. Donovan helped with the lyrics. I helped with the lyrics too. We virtually made the track come alive in the studio, but based on Paul's inspiration. Paul's idea. Paul's title ... written for Ringo." Paul helped Donovan write Donovan’s ‘Mellow Yellow.’
And yet everyone who likes John better than Paul has to keep insisting it's his song. Why??
@@HEADLINEZOO John liked to be contrary
Paul wrote it, Get over it...
he didnt part of its clearly johns .very clearly.
Paul, in the book "Many Years From Now" on pages 286-287 is quoted as saying that except for several words, he wrote all of the song "Yellow Submarine".
I am very inclined to believe Paul because in the same book he generously credited Lennon with helping him to write a number of songs on the Sgt. Pepper album which we all thought were exclusively "Paul songs".
Way back in 1972 I purchased the Hit Parader magazine about Lennon's recollection of who wrote what in The Beatles and since then Lennon has been all over the place. He lies! Paul has been consistent and he almost always is willing to share the "glory".
There are sources from 1967 talking about this song. In an interview, from 1967 or 1968, after them winning a prize for "Yellow Sumbarine" they told they mixed two songs (John: verses with lyrics and a bit of the melody changed; Paul: chorus and changed the melody and the lyrics of the verses with John). Later on. John started changing the story bit by bit and Paul continued with this tendecy.
What are you talking about? John's Hit Parader comment in 1972 and both their comments in the 1967 interview make clear the verses were John and the chorus Paul.
@@gettinhungrig8806 It's an inconsequential song but I still believe Paul in "Many Years From Now".
"Best buds" tend to give each other credit they don't deserve but given some time and separation then the truth comes out. Still, Paul did credit John for working on the "Paul songs" of Sgt. Pepper.
But memories fade. I'd say interviews from the mid-1960s are the best source.
@@bryanmachin2152 What we have now, though, are other people speaking out about what they have seen and heard IN PERSON. These people were not interviewed back then.
Yellow Submarine is close to being a throwaway song so who really cares who wrote what. However, take Eleanor Rigby for example, now that is a very important song which Lennon claimed to have had a huge role in its writing. However, people who witnessed Paul writing the song have said that John's contribution was "virtually nil".
Love a lot of The Beatles. But this. No. I recall the music teacher at junior school making us sing this. I really can’t stand it.
@@richardelson3261 That’s funny . My band teacher did the same thing
I lived all that and saw them twice. Ringo and George were the primary contributors.Whatever Lennon and McCartney might have added was not anything major. I'm fairly sure it was Ringo's song and Ringo was not just a drummer. He could actually play key boards.
That's right son. You keep telling yourself that 😅😂😂😂
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Well after the revolver box that came out we know who wrote it, it was John.
Negative; the verse is John's, the chorus is Paul's.
@@BeatlesBible1 To refine that: the concept, the title, and the chorus, were Paul's. The verse tune and the opening lines were John's. The rest of the lyrics were written by both men together (with a bit of help from Donovan).
@strathman7501 ... written with
Ringo's voice range in mind.
@@strathman7501 You're just doing what Paul does rewriting history.
@@daytripper9222 I don't know what it is you think *you're* doing, but it isn't history of any kind.
John Lennon: "Paul's brainchild. Donovan assisted with the lyrics. I also played a part in shaping the lyrics. Paul conceived the concept and title, so i consider it a Paul composition." (1979)
John Lennon: "Paul wrote the catchy chorus. I helped with the blunderbuss bit." (1972)
Brian Matthew interview 1967:
BM: Who was principally responsible?
John: Paul . . .
Paul: {simultaneously] John, really . . .
John: No, no, no . . . Ringo
BM: I see!
Paul: [laughing] It's the old patty, you know, the old vaudeville. Er, I suppose I thought of the idea, and then John and I wrote it. There's your correct answer, Brian.
BM: John we were talking to you earlier before we started recording, and you said it was in effect written as two separate songs.
John: Yeah, I seem to remember the submarine, the chorus bit, you [Paul] coming in with . . .
Paul: Yeah
John: . . . and wasn't the other bit something i had already going . . . ?
Paul: Yeah, right, it was one of those, yeah. . . .
John: . . . and we put em together to make sense
Paul: He had the bit [sings opening line] "da d'daaa, d'da d'daaa"
There's more....
It's Paul's. Lennon's music I can only listen once then no more. Paul's will play in your head again and again
Sometime days.
Haha.
@@AMOS2809 just the opposite for me . I do like sone of Paul’s songs though . Don’t see how anyone can not like either one
Once again, another song I thought (or was lead to believe from earlier books in my youth) was written by John, was mostly Paul. There labeling should have been McCarney - (and sometimes) Lennon.
nope. The first i nformation of this songs tells the story quite clearly. Tow songs were put together to make up the final song. I can't tell why John came ashamed of the song and start denying part of this song was his and Paul took advantages of this and claimed it his.
Not at all. If you analyse it - mainly from what the two of them have said over the years - they're pretty even with if anything John slightly ahead. Yellow Sub was 50/50.
Rolf Harris.
I'm convinced the inspiration for the Yellow Submarine came from either Paul or John's jealousy of Mick Jaggers new song 'Mother's Little Helper' about a "little yellow pill" Hey lets write something about something long and yellow as well. After a nights sleep and a few spliffs you got an imaginative new song for the album.
Possibly.
Jagger-Richards
LSB. 😂
Too bad it wasn’t a green submarine……😉
Written by Donovan.
Lennon/McCartney/Leitch
writing "Sky of blue. Sea of green " doesn't really warrant a writers credit.
Yes, Donovan did indeed write Mellow Yellow but not Mellow Yellow Submarine.
According to Paul's legacy of revisionist history, he wrote all of the songs, played all of the instruments and produced every session.
Even The Ballad of John and Yoko? Or would you mind being more specific?
In March 1981 Phiip Norman published a book called Shout!, in which he declard John being 75 per cent of the Beatles.
From Paul's point of view, THAT is the revisionist history. And for about ten or fifteen years, that account went totally unchallenged by anybody, pretty much until the Anthology, or even further into the 2000s.
Ever since Shout!, and the remainder of the Lennon Remembers narrative, Paul was always having to defend himself, even for being alive, so for Paul, even cuncurring with John's own statments in 1980, calling this a McCartney song on which Lennon himself only contributed with the "blunderness bit", makes the Lennon fanboys furious!
John Lennon: “Paul wrote the catchy chorus. I helped with the blunderbuss bit.” In 1980 he described the song as "Paul’s baby. Donovan helped with the lyrics. I helped with the lyrics too…Paul’s idea, Paul’s title - so I count it as a Paul song…written for Ringo."
I heard a JL interview on the radio where he states that they almost NEVER wrote face to face; Please, Please Me, She Loves You, I Want To Hold Your Hand, etc... were 95% JL. JL was FURIOUS that PM would add a lyric line and state the song was 50/50.
@@MarriedMindlessLennon wrote the majority of songs up until about 1965. He wrote 10 of the 13 songs on 'A Hard Days Night'. He definitely wrote Please Please Me by himself.
@@michaelharrington75 Paul and John were always neck & neck in song writing. In those early years Paul gave away many songs to help out other artists. Paul was dating Jane Asher and he gave Jane's bother Peter (Peter & Gordon) four songs and he gave his friend Cilla Black three songs and he gave Billy J. Kramer at least two songs (John gave Billy J. Kramer only one of his songs). These were not covers but songs that the Beatles never released but GAVE AWAY.
Of the 25 songs that The Beatles gave away only about 4-5 were John songs and one was a Harrison song. Additionally McCartney wrote two music compositions for the 1966 movie "The Family Way". George Harrison did all of the songs and music for the 1968 film "Wonder Wall". John was very stingy with his music and songs.
Wearisome garbage.
It's pretty boring so it looks like a Paul song.
First (maybe again)
Nothing good ever came from the consumption of a salad
No co-wrote, John never has sense for humor songs, he was always black, great, genius, but black, sad. emotional, but not funny.
It’s a horrible song either way. The Beatles had a lot of good songs but they get a pass on some real crap and sap.
I wish Donovan was allowed to speak the truth about Billy replacing Paul. Donovan's "Epistle To Dippy" is all about Billy.
Yawn.
Personally I “wouldn’t” want to be credited to this naff song that’s the only track I skip on Revolver, their greatest album.
This alone shows how much of a revisionist Paul is.
I doubt they wrote any of it
I wrote it! 🤣 I wish.
The Blue Meanies wrote it.
I suppose it was the Tavistock Institute then was it? 😂😂😂😂
Terrible song
opposite true