Soviet Marshal any religion can act that way but to the extent that a person can live communism is a much improved system for humanity, religious or otherwise. When the only people who have the opium are rightists that’s a danger to the whole world regardless of the opium.
@@formersovietmarshal7184 Islamic scholars were persecuted in the early Soviet years, there were little to no halal shops and mosques in most places and people were not allowed to practice their religion outside home their homes or mosques, I'm a fan if the Soviet Union but one of the few things they got wrong was their treatment of religious people
@@hueyfreeman1983 Actually quite the contrary. There were many pro-Soviet muslim movements and they were embraced by Lenin. In fact, Lenin seemed to prefer Islam compared to Orthodoxy
@@Natadangsa That was under Lenin but under Stalin many mosques were shut down and turned into factories and millions of Tartars were exiled, thats why the Nazis managed to convince Slavic Muslims to fight for them.
Soviet modernity = alcoholism, decadence, state capitalism, repression, forced labor camps and g*nocide, yeah, great civilization you had, Marxists never fail to amaze me with succh blatant "good racism" and "good chauvinism"
Top Per One can hold a set of ideas even from various sources without sticking to a certain dogma. This is how most ideologies come to be. Just as how Marx turned Hegel on his head, one could turn Marx on his head
@@Utivarhage lol, you should have lived there! in the beginning all sorts of religious things were banned, after the end of WWII ussr started to ease this ban
I as a muslim, kind of disagree. I believe that religion should be of personal matters and that mosques should be within walking distance near their homes. We have friday prayer and pray 5 times a day, it should not be taken as propagandizing our religion to the public, i see it as call to prayer "Adhan" one of the things i disagree with the Soviet Union is the restrictions on Islam. I understand how bad it will turn out when it comes to religious uprisings, but i believe also that mosques should not be heavily restricted, i feel bad
lets be honest some mosques need to be restricted specifically the ones where the imams encourage violence against infidels and women and lgbt people and people who dress differently and other muslims and... etc
well, if you are westerner, please shut up, I am uzbek and better than bunch of westerners know my nation and its sufferings. Keep your freaking nose away from making some prejudices or assumptions or even conclusions about a 24-min video.
The Revolution did not go from Moscow to the rest of the Russian Empire: if anything, it was the reverse of that, as the Bolsheviks established their power in outlying areas of the Empire first before taking Moscow, though the Revolution was fought in all places at once, including the constant struggle of the workers of Moscow. The October Revolution was the culmination of many decades of revolutionary struggle that came to recruit almost all workers and peasants in the Russian Empire, making it impossible for the czarists or capitalists to continue governing at all. The Revolution happened in the tiniest and most remote villages of the vast Empire just as it happened in Moscow. The entirely of society was swept up in it all. That is how most successful revolutions are.
@@ryanrocha5981 Russia , unlike your Brits or french invaders , never got colonies , all parts of Russia were equal and got status of idependent republics
I live in Tashkent and what this guy is saying about the new generation not wanting Islam is a nonsense. There is a huge resurgence of Islam. The traditional Islam of the rest of the world. Tashkent is a beautiful leafy city with the most gorgeous mosques I have ever seen. The culture is a mix of Persian and Turkic and the people are much better than the Slavs west of Central Asia. The people are sol welcoming, loving and curious to learn about Islam. The communists committed intellectual genocide by wiping away peoples collective memories, their history and sending steal land off land owners, Aristocrats and business men and sending them off to the Gulags. The traditional Uzbek architecture is so much more beautiful that the grey, drab ugly Soviet buildings the cover the entire USSR. The same buildings that herded in humans as if they were machines and mindless robots just there to serve the Empire. Good riddance to the hideous monstrosity that wrought so much suffering upon half the world - USSR.
You can be both but I think most people are simply raised into a religion and never made an informed choice to join it. As that decreases, so does the number of believers.
@@marxist-leninisttheory8023 You can't be both no. Marxism is built on scientific methods such as dialectical materialism. Materialism itself goes against all religions since religions are based on old texts without any evidence to anything. When you change a country to a Socialistic economy and the people in that country getting a better life, then religion also decreases. Religion is propaganda that tells the poor to: "Work like a slave, listen and do what your masters tell you, and don't be free. You will be free when you die and come to the magical non-scientific Heaven". But when people get clean clothes, water, a home, job and can live and buy stuff... then religion also decreases. Compare poor countries with religion and you see, better the people of a country has it, less religious are they. Scientific. Compare Iran with Sweden, compare USA with Iceland ..and you see.
@@abdo19code someone might have already done it. Christians have liberation theology which you might want to look at. I have a friend in the CPB who used lib Theo sources in his PhD as their way of describing Marxist concepts are more palatable. As far as I'm convinced, if Muslims or any other religions want to read and incorporate Marx into their doctrines, how can that be a bad thing?
This video turned out so laughably wrong in its predictions. Uzbeks have been experiencing a marked religious revival since Soviet fall despite obstacles put up by their government. Shows how little westerners understand about Islam even when they travel to Muslim majority places. They can only frame other believers from their own rather troubled Christian reformation history and subsequent decline of faith in favour of consumerism and secularism.
1980 Soviet Tashkent: More cleaner and much more peaceful than 2020s Moscow, Los Angeles, New York City, San Francisco, London and Paris.
This is true
Justin Bell Yep.
You look like mr potato head with out a moustache.
And U have a 🥚 head.
@Transportriangle One of these days I got to tour the former USSR.
3:21-4:11: And people keep saying that Soviet Citizens were "starving" All that food could feed millions living on the streets of American cities.
No one says that
I’ve been dying to see anything trustworthy about Islam and the Soviet Union
Nothing trustworthy about Islam and communism
It's an opium just like all the other religions.
But MusIims can live normally under communism....
Soviet Marshal any religion can act that way but to the extent that a person can live communism is a much improved system for humanity, religious or otherwise. When the only people who have the opium are rightists that’s a danger to the whole world regardless of the opium.
@@formersovietmarshal7184 Islamic scholars were persecuted in the early Soviet years, there were little to no halal shops and mosques in most places and people were not allowed to practice their religion outside home their homes or mosques, I'm a fan if the Soviet Union but one of the few things they got wrong was their treatment of religious people
@@hueyfreeman1983 Actually quite the contrary. There were many pro-Soviet muslim movements and they were embraced by Lenin. In fact, Lenin seemed to prefer Islam compared to Orthodoxy
@@Natadangsa That was under Lenin but under Stalin many mosques were shut down and turned into factories and millions of Tartars were exiled, thats why the Nazis managed to convince Slavic Muslims to fight for them.
If all these countries of central Asia witnessed modernity and civilisation, it was because of the USSR.
Correct.
They already had civilization, it’s just you have a different version of it.
You sound like someone justifying Western imperialism
You sound just like an American chauvinist talking about middle east, this is racist and Orientalist as fuck lol
Soviet modernity = alcoholism, decadence, state capitalism, repression, forced labor camps and g*nocide, yeah, great civilization you had, Marxists never fail to amaze me with succh blatant "good racism" and "good chauvinism"
and these were the good times in Uzbek history.
AhiskaBozkurt Shut up.
@Osmanli AhiskaTurk HomosexuaI Ottoman Turk
The good times is during abbasid era
The worst times. You don't know the pain that we felt during the soviet Union!
You must be stupid to say that!
Anti-socialists "loool marxists cant be religious"
* gets proof *
Anti-socialists "loool marxism wants islamism"
lsIam is a conservative right-wing ideoIogy
Soviet Marshal Islam is not an ideology. It is a religion. There is a difference
Top Per One can hold a set of ideas even from various sources without sticking to a certain dogma. This is how most ideologies come to be. Just as how Marx turned Hegel on his head, one could turn Marx on his head
@@formersovietmarshal7184 nope
@@topper2414 not exactly true, since a lot of things marxism says that are not in line with Islam like being athiest
just want it back, feel so bad
ugh so awesome, one day we will see peace
It’s still peaceful
Peace without Propaganda From the west 😊😊
Such good stuff
And today Uzbekistan youth is still proud Muslim...
Alhamdulillah, yes
obviously? most Russians are christians too. Ussr never banned religion.
@@Utivarhage lol, you should have lived there! in the beginning all sorts of religious things were banned, after the end of WWII ussr started to ease this ban
@@n_utd Thats true.
does anyone know where this is from?
>2/5 by 2000
Wow making me sad we couldn't see if that was the case by 2000
Jacob Sinclair The world wouldn't be a mess now if the USSR and the rest of the Socialist Bloc was still around.
Interesting
"With people from Muslim background expected to form 0.4 of the entire Soviet population by year 2000..."
Mark the year, 2000!!!!
I as a muslim, kind of disagree. I believe that religion should be of personal matters and that mosques should be within walking distance near their homes. We have friday prayer and pray 5 times a day, it should not be taken as propagandizing our religion to the public, i see it as call to prayer "Adhan" one of the things i disagree with the Soviet Union is the restrictions on Islam. I understand how bad it will turn out when it comes to religious uprisings, but i believe also that mosques should not be heavily restricted, i feel bad
obama is not real I support communism everywhere outside the reach of our Adhan
lets be honest some mosques need to be restricted
specifically the ones where the imams encourage violence against infidels and women and lgbt people and people who dress differently and other muslims and... etc
@@killmemadame7046 that's isis
@@killmemadame7046 I have been to plenty of Mosques and never have i heard an imam talk about using violence against anyone
A communist party should not have members that are involved in organised religion. Simple as that.
In which year this video was made?
1980s
USSR was great
Great work of the ussr
well, if you are westerner, please shut up, I am uzbek and better than bunch of westerners know my nation and its sufferings. Keep your freaking nose away from making some prejudices or assumptions or even conclusions about a 24-min video.
@@behruzjon_zulmurodov❤❤🏳️🏳️
Islamic emirat of uzbakistan
But how did the revolution go from Moscow to to Central Asia
Mike Carone Central Asia was part of the Russian Empire.
Is was a colony of Tzarist Russia
The Revolution did not go from Moscow to the rest of the Russian Empire: if anything, it was the reverse of that, as the Bolsheviks established their power in outlying areas of the Empire first before taking Moscow, though the Revolution was fought in all places at once, including the constant struggle of the workers of Moscow. The October Revolution was the culmination of many decades of revolutionary struggle that came to recruit almost all workers and peasants in the Russian Empire, making it impossible for the czarists or capitalists to continue governing at all. The Revolution happened in the tiniest and most remote villages of the vast Empire just as it happened in Moscow. The entirely of society was swept up in it all. That is how most successful revolutions are.
@@ryanrocha5981 Russia , unlike your Brits or french invaders , never got colonies , all parts of Russia were equal and got status of idependent republics
If only the Soviets had re-adopted the NEP
Before Colapse
I live in Tashkent and what this guy is saying about the new generation not wanting Islam is a nonsense. There is a huge resurgence of Islam. The traditional Islam of the rest of the world. Tashkent is a beautiful leafy city with the most gorgeous mosques I have ever seen. The culture is a mix of Persian and Turkic and the people are much better than the Slavs west of Central Asia. The people are sol welcoming, loving and curious to learn about Islam. The communists committed intellectual genocide by wiping away peoples collective memories, their history and sending steal land off land owners, Aristocrats and business men and sending them off to the Gulags. The traditional Uzbek architecture is so much more beautiful that the grey, drab ugly Soviet buildings the cover the entire USSR. The same buildings that herded in humans as if they were machines and mindless robots just there to serve the Empire. Good riddance to the hideous monstrosity that wrought so much suffering upon half the world - USSR.
Well that's depressing. I want to be a communist and a Muslim. I don't want to surrender either.
You can be both but I think most people are simply raised into a religion and never made an informed choice to join it. As that decreases, so does the number of believers.
You don't have to.
@@marxist-leninisttheory8023 I'm a former atheist, convert to Islam. I wasn't raised in any religion.
@@marxist-leninisttheory8023 You can't be both no. Marxism is built on scientific methods such as dialectical materialism.
Materialism itself goes against all religions since religions are based on old texts without any evidence to anything.
When you change a country to a Socialistic economy and the people in that country getting a better life, then religion also decreases. Religion is propaganda that tells the poor to: "Work like a slave, listen and do what your masters tell you, and don't be free. You will be free when you die and come to the magical non-scientific Heaven". But when people get clean clothes, water, a home, job and can live and buy stuff... then religion also decreases. Compare poor countries with religion and you see, better the people of a country has it, less religious are they. Scientific. Compare Iran with Sweden, compare USA with Iceland ..and you see.
@@abdo19code someone might have already done it. Christians have liberation theology which you might want to look at. I have a friend in the CPB who used lib Theo sources in his PhD as their way of describing Marxist concepts are more palatable. As far as I'm convinced, if Muslims or any other religions want to read and incorporate Marx into their doctrines, how can that be a bad thing?
This film is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan
Usa funded iliterate muslim peasants !
It's a joke.
@@cangrejo5238 yeah I got it from rambo 3.
Neetramen "Brave"
@@Hardie_Boi Bin Laden wasn't illiterate and sure as hell wasn't a peasant
timur
This video turned out so laughably wrong in its predictions. Uzbeks have been experiencing a marked religious revival since Soviet fall despite obstacles put up by their government. Shows how little westerners understand about Islam even when they travel to Muslim majority places. They can only frame other believers from their own rather troubled Christian reformation history and subsequent decline of faith in favour of consumerism and secularism.
No Uzbeks never stoned no 1
most of them never read quran in their lives
@@onrjsNope they are do
You are biased..stop
😅😊😊
I would like this video if it wasnt so centered over being Anti-Islamic
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