As an Anarchist, It makes me happy to see a leftist creator un-dogmatically delve and explain multiple leftist movements/ideologies. We're at a point where we need solidarity among leftists.
100% it makes me truely sad to see how fascists won because communists and anarchists couldn't solve their issues. You could say the left has destroyed itself and the fascists just took advantage of it. Solidarity is needed among us as nothing is more important than the revolution. After the fight is won we can discuss together how to reform society.
As a communist, I agree with you on this matter. It seems so many leftists have problems prioritizing their ideologies. I, personally, don't believe that your ideals as an anarchist can be achieved, as a communist is wont to do lol, but I do believe it would be loads better than the world we have now. Leftists should work towards removal of fascist and neoliberal systems, guided by our shared ideals, first, and the implementation and compromise of our unshared ideals second.
@@FaeFayore I’m just saying, we lost the last revolution and we have examples of why communism and more specifically abolishing capitalism without abolishing the state as wel isn’t possible. Don’t see how people could be communists when they have evidence it decays into totalitarianism. The state, if it comes into power, will always insist it will need to continue to rule. So we can never EVER involve the state in revolution. That’s how we lost the last revolution. That’s what anarchists want, an actual revolution where we abolish state and capitalism, not just switch one form of totalitarian rule for another.
Hi, I'm spanish to be more specific I'm from Catalonia, before Anything else I'd like to say that this is a great video, and I sincerely thank you for covering this topic, since in Spain the CNT-FAI are considered today nothing more than a bunch of lunatics that did weird things during the civil war, with that said I'd like to clarify some things for those who maybe interested in the topic, or may want to hear the opinion of someone who lives there. First of all there was never a communist government in Spain, the government of the republic was always since the beginning of the war a coalition of left leaning parties of which the two major parties where a social liberal party (IR) and a socialist/leninist one (PSOE), the communist/stalinist party (PCE) was in this coalition but it was a minority party that nobody actually liked, the thing is that through the war the USSR pressured the republican government to give more and more power to the PCE, during the last stages of the war the republican government was effectively a puppet of the PCE, also not every communist party in Spain fought against the anarchists, the POUM a marxist anti-stalinist party very influential in Catalonia at the time, sided with the CNT-FAI, because of that it was also purged and it's militias were also made part of the regular army. The last thing I want to say is that the CNT-FAI never intended to make Catalonia an independent country, their goal was to extend the revolution through Spain, they simply happened to be more successful in Catalonia, but for example the CNT-FAI was also very popular in Andalusia, where they tried to start a revolution in 1933 in the village of Casas Viejas, where they were massacred by a republican paramilitary force, the only reason why the anarchists didn't take over Andalusia the same way they did in Catalonia is that Andalusia fell under nationalist control very early in the war, so please do not mistake the current situation in Catalonia with anarchism or even leftism, because the current parties that defend Catalan independence are nationalist/capitalist parties that believe in a almost racial superiority of the catalan people, also the victory of Franco not only affected Catalonia it basically affected all Spain, Basque Country and Galicia also got their languages and cultures banned. But anyway as I said great video, also I know that probably most of the things that I've said weren't mentioned in order to make everything easier to understand, because saying "communist government" is easier than saying "liberal government under the influence of communist"
Thank you for this insight I really appreciate it. This is a phenomenon in history that I'm ridiculously interested in. Could you recommend any texts or films that'd detail these accounts as accurate as possible?
@@shaggy1628 a ver, si puede que me haya pasado un poco, pero en mi defensa diré que la mayoría de independentistas que conozco dicen abiertamente que en Catalunya las cosas se hacen mejor que en España, políticos como Quim Torra directamente tienen twits casi racistas contra los andaluces, no estoy hablando de toda Cataluña, solo del sector más derechista del independentismo, pero bueno espero que si eres independentista tampoco te lo hayas tomado mal, yo también lo era, y hasta cierto punto lo sigo siendo.
@@daymanfighterofthenightman I don't have much sources to back what I've said since it's not speculation, is basically something that you can find in any history book, but I recommend you the film "Land and Freedom" from 1995, even tho it's not a documentary it covers the Spanish civil war from the perspective of an British communist in the international brigades, that fights alongside the POUM and the CNT-FAI, it's one of the few films that covers the civil war form the perspective of the CNT-FAI/POUM, and it's also the film that got me interested in this subject.
Great video, I learned a lot about how the CNT-FAI was actually organized which a lot of reading seems to skip. One thing though, the 92% figure from the latest referendum is because most of the people opposed to secession intentionally didn't vote. Doing so would give credibility to a referendum they deemed invalid. Polling varies over time but comes much closer to 50/50. Here in Spain the secessionists are used by right-wing parties to appeal to more voters, regardless of the present issue they'll bring it up for popularity points. It's like critical race theory in the U.S.
Self-determination is more important than any national government. If a region decides Democratically to self determine and split from a larger nation, it is up to them. The government had no right to nullify a vote before it is even made. Same goes for other independence movements like Transnistria that wants to separate as well from Moldova.
@@koreyvalentine6602 that would make sense if it werent for the fact that regional goverments do not have the power to call for referendums. Thats a power that the constitution reserves for the goverment. The call for the referéndum was made on an un-oficial basis trough the parties (not the regional goverment) So that referéndum from the start wasnt going to be a fair. Its funny, because the parties that promoted the referendum now say that it was all along meant to be simbolic with no real effect, since they dont have the balls to do the declaration of independence. So yeah, what a funny joke! The worst part is they kinda won in the end. As they got what they wanted: to make spain look like the bad guy and them (a minority in the regional parlament at the time trying to speak for all catalans) the víctims. All courtesy of the dumb, incompetent goverment of the conservatard party, M.Rajoy
@@koreyvalentine6602 honestly, I'd put an asterisk on that. I think self-determination is fine in genuine Grassroots movements that want secession for a specific reason (the government not meeting their needs, exporting more resources than they import, the rights of a minority group being violated, etc) but we should also keep in mind that not all secession movements are done for the same reason. The American Revolution and Civil War are actually a great example of this, in which the former was the rich capitalist class feeling like they were having their potential wealth stunted by the traditional aristocracy, thus leading to Revolution, while the Confederate States of America explicitly rebelled to preserve a capitalist system with a slave working class that was slowly going to be abolished and/or made redundant by the existing government (not for any moral reasons, just because it was unprofitable) I think to an extent we have to make value judgments on Independence movements from a case-by-case basis, because the context surrounding the movement in addition to who it leads and would benefit is incredibly important as to whether or not we as leftists should actually support it.
As a historian in the making (one year away from getting my degree) I find that you glossed over some important aspects in the beginning of the video. You say that before the 1931 proclamation of the second republic, Spain was literally a monarchy. Although technically correct, the statement is somewhat inaccurate, the first reason being that the use of the word “literally” might lead someone to interpret that there was an absolute monarchy of sorts, which would be incorrect. The second reason is that, despite the fact that Alfonso XIII was king, the academic consensus is that, the period immediately preceding the republic was a Dictatorship, headed by general Miguel Primo de Rivera (father of future falangist Antonio Primo de Rivera), then Dámaso Berenguer and lastly admiral Juan Bautista Aznar. When you refer to the elections again, given the context, what you say is incorrect. You make it sound like there was a popular front in the first election, which, despite the fact there was a coalition government, is not true. Two elections would be held in 1931 and 1933 before the 1936 election for which the “frente popular” would be created, in order to defeat the CEDA (which is the actual name of the other coalition you refer to, which also co-governed Spain between the 1933 and 1936 elections, with the Radical Party, led by Alejandro Lerroux). Another problem I have with this particular segment is when you say this coalition had fascists. While it was true that fascism had a presence in Spanish Politics, in this period it is rather small (the Falange only obtained one seat in the Congress of Deputies) and its activities were mainly concentrated in large cities, and they weren’t even a part of the CEDA. My main concern with this part of the video is when you mention Francoists taking part in the 1936 election, which is absolutely false. Franco didn’t become a prominent figure in Spanish politics until well after the start of the war, when he was named Generalísimo in late 1936 by the military junta (or Junta de Defensa Nacional) that governed the rebel-controlled territories, which up to that point had been led by Miguel Cabanellas who, fun fact: was a mason and a conservative republican. Later in the video, you talk about a big republican offensive taking place in 1939 from the south, in order to reunite the separated territories. First, that offensive took place in 1938 and the main push came from Catalonia (where the government had been massing troops and supplies, which was the reason they wanted to integrate the Anarchists militias), meaning that it moved from the north to the south. Later on, you also refer to the fact that the Catalan Anarchists had no tanks or artillery to defend from the nationalist onslaught at the end of the war, this isn’t due to the fact that the government denied them access to weapons shipments. The fact of the matter is that, most of these supplies had either been lost or taken by the enemy after the Battle of the Ebro in late 1938 (the big offensive I mentioned earlier). Whatever military equipment was left only bought the government half a year before being defeated. Please don’t take this as anything other than constructive criticism. I enjoyed the video very much and as a Spaniard and a Catalan I thoroughly enjoy studying our rich history and culture.
Una pregunteta bro , esq estic flipant. Catalunya literalment va ser una societat anarquista sense estat on els medis de produccio Eren propietat de tothom?? I funcionava be??? Aixo no es com basicamente comunisme amb sindicats??
@@pyrefly7575 Si i no, hi ha grisos a tot arreu. Cal recordar que la Generalitat encara existia i tenia el suport de les forçes de l'ordre, Guàrdia Civil per exemple. També destacar que aquest moviment es va concentrar principalment als nuclis urbans, on vivien els treballadors industrials.
this was cool! love the channel. as an academic i would recommend citing sources, i think it would do wonders for the channel. thanks for making content about these very interesting topics
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I found it weird you left out the fact that landowners lost alot of their lands to serfs seized their lands from them and collectivized. Which was pretty cool
@@Viki1999 Very interesting! I would love it if you denoted your sources in the video/description more often. Not that I don't trust you. It's just that I'm weary of my confirmation bias. Great Video by the way. I like that you both gave the necessary context as well as talked about the practical policy of the anarchists.
Great video, I'm from Catalonia and my parents where taught the history through the lenses of the fascist Franquitstas who ruled the country for 40 years opressing minorities. Even nowadays, the history books demonize a little bit the anarchists and blame them for losing the war. We have improved quite a lot in the recent years but the damage done personal and cultural is still recent and we are still under a Monarchy appointed by that Hitler's friend, Francisco Franco. Although there is a lot of nationalist rethoric in the catalan independentist movement, an important force towards it is the will to move away from the Central Satate institutions like the Monarchy and the justice branch (which is full of fascists and sons of fascists). I got to say that the independentist support was big in the referendum because the Spanish state told it's Catalan supporters that it was illegal and they should not participate on it, in reality more or less half of Catalonia support the independentist movement.
@@pyrefly7575 Her name was Marina Ginestà. She was 17 in this photo, taken on top of the Hotel Colon at the Plaça de Catalunya during the July 1936 military uprising. She was a translator for a Pravda journalist.
Awesome video I can’t explain how much I love learning about left history, and these videos Are well done and easy to understand and super interesting, thank you. 🚩🏴☠️👹
Great video you should do a follow video if you haven't already on the POUM and their dynamic in Spain. Especially their activity in Catalonia as well with Orwell and the crackdown by the government that forced Orwell and others to flee the war.
As a fellow catalan, thank you so much for this video and all the information you provided. More people should know about what happened here, and how that still affects the region. As you said in the video, here "Hitler" actually won. He had a fascist dictatorship for decades, lasting until 1975, and imho never truly disappearing. Thank you so much!!
Bruh. You made me think Catalonia should be independent, I had no idea they were so based like wtf. 90%+ in the referendum too, well imagine if the that happened in Scotland there would be blood in the streets if the Uk said no.
92% in favour is a lie . In actuality people already knew that referendum wouldnt be valid so only those most passionate about independence actually went to vote . During 2017 I think around 50-51% of the population were in favour of the independence of Catalunya . Nowadays is more like 37-40% . I myself love Catalunya and I totally support it's right to become independent, and I shame and despise The Spanish state for opressing with police brutality a simple referendum (1-O) but truth must be said in all circumstances. I personally don't want the independence of Catalunya bcus it would mean it's doom economically, but if it weren't for that, I'd be totally on board with it
Hey Viki1999! im loving all these videos ive been recommended your channel for a while but i just started watching. i was hoping that you'd be a ble to make a similar video about Anarchist Korea
i was just gonna say viki, the way you used 'syndicalism' and 'anarchism' interchangeably kinda confused me because syndicalism can have trade unions sending representatives to one big trade-union congress, and then there is also a head of state, so syndicalism can exist with a state, what you were describing with catalonia is what i would define as anarcho-syndicalist.
My grand father fought during the Spanish civil war alongside anarchists and collectivists. Do you know what happened to them?, the Communists butchered them......
I got to say ideo was great and you got most things right. About the last Catalan referendum: most people in Catalonia boycotted the vote, besides not being constitutional (but that is another can of worms of Post Franco politics). Also, the PSOE under Zapatero made a deal with Catalan Nationalists to review their autonomic status and reform it legally. But (unsurprisingly) the PP-led government by Rajoy did not honor those agreements. So Catalan Nationalists tried a coup de force with that illegal referendum. Just wanted to clarify that. Oh, and there are Catalans in France too!
CNT-FAI was a great example of how anarchist society (and any society should be run). The only way to have the emancipation of the workers is statelessness. That's why the CNT-FAI and the Makhnovia used intelligence agencies, police, and labor camps! But don't worry, all those tools of the state that we use doesn't mean we have a state.
A third of them aren't even aware of all that, a third of them that find out about it disavow the revolution, and the last third find a way to rationalize it.
Good video! Love you stuff. For this video could you link your sources? I like looking backwards at where people get their information so I can help develop my own take on the subject.
First they seized the factories in a similar fashion as the previous comment stated, then workers took control with some issues of organization. After this, the unions stepped and, in some cases, introduced a form of organization which capitulated back into wage-labor with commodities.
16:06 "The POLICE in the region were loyal to the [ANARCHO-] syndicalists"... ... police ... ... loyal to anarchists ... 🤔 How does anyone read that sentence and not question whether they were really anarchists
Even though I am right wing I gotta say pretty good video. As I see it in a civil war where there are 2 roughly matched forces the deciding factor is unity of the participants.
Even back then there was a tendency for unions to attempt to reinstate capitalism and take over the means of production for themselves. CNT-FAI didn’t end commodity production or wage-labor entirely, and in some cases kind of capitulated back into it, even before the revolution was sold out by the CNT-FAI by joining with the Republicans and allowing true revolutionaries to be killed.
@Yeetus debeetus you obviously dont know much about history. Then again we are talking about someone using a sonnenrad so im sure you dont really give too much thought into anything lol
@@1997lordofdoom do you have anything to show for? Please tell me why you consider state socialist projects past and current a failure. None of them are perfect as no society will ever be, but building socialism is a process and every country has different material conditions that led them where they are. The fact that socialism hugely improved standards of living and managed to threaten the capitalist hegemony around the world would be enough already.
I wouldn’t call Marx a statist. I’ve read all his available work (based as fuck) and I can see why there are lots of libertarian marxists Regardless, left unity all day!!!
v good video,, but not entirely unbiased (not that that`s a bad thing or unintentional tho). i understand it was as a sinole overview tho and that makes sense why some parts were also without nuance,,, still enjoyed tho :)) also; ¡viva galeuzca!
As an Anarchist, It makes me happy to see a leftist creator un-dogmatically delve and explain multiple leftist movements/ideologies. We're at a point where we need solidarity among leftists.
100% it makes me truely sad to see how fascists won because communists and anarchists couldn't solve their issues. You could say the left has destroyed itself and the fascists just took advantage of it. Solidarity is needed among us as nothing is more important than the revolution. After the fight is won we can discuss together how to reform society.
You're at a point where you need to go outside.
Watch anark’s the state is counter revolutionary series. It explain very well why leftist solidarity isn’t really possible
As a communist, I agree with you on this matter. It seems so many leftists have problems prioritizing their ideologies. I, personally, don't believe that your ideals as an anarchist can be achieved, as a communist is wont to do lol, but I do believe it would be loads better than the world we have now. Leftists should work towards removal of fascist and neoliberal systems, guided by our shared ideals, first, and the implementation and compromise of our unshared ideals second.
@@FaeFayore I’m just saying, we lost the last revolution and we have examples of why communism and more specifically abolishing capitalism without abolishing the state as wel isn’t possible. Don’t see how people could be communists when they have evidence it decays into totalitarianism. The state, if it comes into power, will always insist it will need to continue to rule. So we can never EVER involve the state in revolution. That’s how we lost the last revolution. That’s what anarchists want, an actual revolution where we abolish state and capitalism, not just switch one form of totalitarian rule for another.
WERE BRINGING BACK ANARCHO SYNDICALISM IN 2022 LETS GOOOOO
Pls not, thx.
Cope lmao
Still fighting for freedom in North East Syria
@@dophhead2711 and they will get fucking stomped like last time lmao
@@syrianultranationalist4475 Assad looks like a speed dealer
Hi, I'm spanish to be more specific I'm from Catalonia, before Anything else I'd like to say that this is a great video, and I sincerely thank you for covering this topic, since in Spain the CNT-FAI are considered today nothing more than a bunch of lunatics that did weird things during the civil war, with that said I'd like to clarify some things for those who maybe interested in the topic, or may want to hear the opinion of someone who lives there.
First of all there was never a communist government in Spain, the government of the republic was always since the beginning of the war a coalition of left leaning parties of which the two major parties where a social liberal party (IR) and a socialist/leninist one (PSOE), the communist/stalinist party (PCE) was in this coalition but it was a minority party that nobody actually liked, the thing is that through the war the USSR pressured the republican government to give more and more power to the PCE, during the last stages of the war the republican government was effectively a puppet of the PCE, also not every communist party in Spain fought against the anarchists, the POUM a marxist anti-stalinist party very influential in Catalonia at the time, sided with the CNT-FAI, because of that it was also purged and it's militias were also made part of the regular army.
The last thing I want to say is that the CNT-FAI never intended to make Catalonia an independent country, their goal was to extend the revolution through Spain, they simply happened to be more successful in Catalonia, but for example the CNT-FAI was also very popular in Andalusia, where they tried to start a revolution in 1933 in the village of Casas Viejas, where they were massacred by a republican paramilitary force, the only reason why the anarchists didn't take over Andalusia the same way they did in Catalonia is that Andalusia fell under nationalist control very early in the war, so please do not mistake the current situation in Catalonia with anarchism or even leftism, because the current parties that defend Catalan independence are nationalist/capitalist parties that believe in a almost racial superiority of the catalan people, also the victory of Franco not only affected Catalonia it basically affected all Spain, Basque Country and Galicia also got their languages and cultures banned.
But anyway as I said great video, also I know that probably most of the things that I've said weren't mentioned in order to make everything easier to understand, because saying "communist government" is easier than saying "liberal government under the influence of communist"
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Thank you for this insight I really appreciate it. This is a phenomenon in history that I'm ridiculously interested in. Could you recommend any texts or films that'd detail these accounts as accurate as possible?
¿"Racial superiority"? ¿Que tonterías dices tío?
@@shaggy1628 a ver, si puede que me haya pasado un poco, pero en mi defensa diré que la mayoría de independentistas que conozco dicen abiertamente que en Catalunya las cosas se hacen mejor que en España, políticos como Quim Torra directamente tienen twits casi racistas contra los andaluces, no estoy hablando de toda Cataluña, solo del sector más derechista del independentismo, pero bueno espero que si eres independentista tampoco te lo hayas tomado mal, yo también lo era, y hasta cierto punto lo sigo siendo.
@@daymanfighterofthenightman I don't have much sources to back what I've said since it's not speculation, is basically something that you can find in any history book, but I recommend you the film "Land and Freedom" from 1995, even tho it's not a documentary it covers the Spanish civil war from the perspective of an British communist in the international brigades, that fights alongside the POUM and the CNT-FAI, it's one of the few films that covers the civil war form the perspective of the CNT-FAI/POUM, and it's also the film that got me interested in this subject.
Great video, I learned a lot about how the CNT-FAI was actually organized which a lot of reading seems to skip. One thing though, the 92% figure from the latest referendum is because most of the people opposed to secession intentionally didn't vote. Doing so would give credibility to a referendum they deemed invalid. Polling varies over time but comes much closer to 50/50. Here in Spain the secessionists are used by right-wing parties to appeal to more voters, regardless of the present issue they'll bring it up for popularity points. It's like critical race theory in the U.S.
Self-determination is more important than any national government. If a region decides Democratically to self determine and split from a larger nation, it is up to them. The government had no right to nullify a vote before it is even made. Same goes for other independence movements like Transnistria that wants to separate as well from Moldova.
@@koreyvalentine6602 that would make sense if it werent for the fact that regional goverments do not have the power to call for referendums. Thats a power that the constitution reserves for the goverment. The call for the referéndum was made on an un-oficial basis trough the parties (not the regional goverment)
So that referéndum from the start wasnt going to be a fair.
Its funny, because the parties that promoted the referendum now say that it was all along meant to be simbolic with no real effect, since they dont have the balls to do the declaration of independence. So yeah, what a funny joke!
The worst part is they kinda won in the end. As they got what they wanted: to make spain look like the bad guy and them (a minority in the regional parlament at the time trying to speak for all catalans) the víctims. All courtesy of the dumb, incompetent goverment of the conservatard party, M.Rajoy
@@koreyvalentine6602 honestly, I'd put an asterisk on that.
I think self-determination is fine in genuine Grassroots movements that want secession for a specific reason (the government not meeting their needs, exporting more resources than they import, the rights of a minority group being violated, etc) but we should also keep in mind that not all secession movements are done for the same reason. The American Revolution and Civil War are actually a great example of this, in which the former was the rich capitalist class feeling like they were having their potential wealth stunted by the traditional aristocracy, thus leading to Revolution, while the Confederate States of America explicitly rebelled to preserve a capitalist system with a slave working class that was slowly going to be abolished and/or made redundant by the existing government (not for any moral reasons, just because it was unprofitable)
I think to an extent we have to make value judgments on Independence movements from a case-by-case basis, because the context surrounding the movement in addition to who it leads and would benefit is incredibly important as to whether or not we as leftists should actually support it.
@@Viki1999 Not all, but most. I know people who didn't want independence for Catalonia but suport a referendum so they went to vote.
Thers a documentary called living Utopia made in 1996 that interviews the remaining people who were part of anarchist Catalonia
As a historian in the making (one year away from getting my degree) I find that you glossed over some important aspects in the beginning of the video.
You say that before the 1931 proclamation of the second republic, Spain was literally a monarchy.
Although technically correct, the statement is somewhat inaccurate, the first reason being that the use of the word “literally” might lead someone to interpret that there was an absolute monarchy of sorts, which would be incorrect. The second reason is that, despite the fact that Alfonso XIII was king, the academic consensus is that, the period immediately preceding the republic was a Dictatorship, headed by general Miguel Primo de Rivera (father of future falangist Antonio Primo de Rivera), then Dámaso Berenguer and lastly admiral Juan Bautista Aznar.
When you refer to the elections again, given the context, what you say is incorrect. You make it sound like there was a popular front in the first election, which, despite the fact there was a coalition government, is not true. Two elections would be held in 1931 and 1933 before the 1936 election for which the “frente popular” would be created, in order to defeat the CEDA (which is the actual name of the other coalition you refer to, which also co-governed Spain between the 1933 and 1936 elections, with the Radical Party, led by Alejandro Lerroux).
Another problem I have with this particular segment is when you say this coalition had fascists. While it was true that fascism had a presence in Spanish Politics, in this period it is rather small (the Falange only obtained one seat in the Congress of Deputies) and its activities were mainly concentrated in large cities, and they weren’t even a part of the CEDA.
My main concern with this part of the video is when you mention Francoists taking part in the 1936 election, which is absolutely false. Franco didn’t become a prominent figure in Spanish politics until well after the start of the war, when he was named Generalísimo in late 1936 by the military junta (or Junta de Defensa Nacional) that governed the rebel-controlled territories, which up to that point had been led by Miguel Cabanellas who, fun fact: was a mason and a conservative republican.
Later in the video, you talk about a big republican offensive taking place in 1939 from the south, in order to reunite the separated territories. First, that offensive took place in 1938 and the main push came from Catalonia (where the government had been massing troops and supplies, which was the reason they wanted to integrate the Anarchists militias), meaning that it moved from the north to the south.
Later on, you also refer to the fact that the Catalan Anarchists had no tanks or artillery to defend from the nationalist onslaught at the end of the war, this isn’t due to the fact that the government denied them access to weapons shipments. The fact of the matter is that, most of these supplies had either been lost or taken by the enemy after the Battle of the Ebro in late 1938 (the big offensive I mentioned earlier). Whatever military equipment was left only bought the government half a year before being defeated.
Please don’t take this as anything other than constructive criticism. I enjoyed the video very much and as a Spaniard and a Catalan I thoroughly enjoy studying our rich history and culture.
Una pregunteta bro , esq estic flipant. Catalunya literalment va ser una societat anarquista sense estat on els medis de produccio Eren propietat de tothom?? I funcionava be??? Aixo no es com basicamente comunisme amb sindicats??
@@pyrefly7575 Si i no, hi ha grisos a tot arreu. Cal recordar que la Generalitat encara existia i tenia el suport de les forçes de l'ordre, Guàrdia Civil per exemple. També destacar que aquest moviment es va concentrar principalment als nuclis urbans, on vivien els treballadors industrials.
That was the peak of man kind. That was us at our best. Its all been down hill since the tankies stabbed the Anarchists in the back.
I just want to say that you got me into socialism/communism and I thank u so much.
Let Lenin take it from here on. 🗣️🗣️
@@whythelongface64 this was my path :)
@@Ocinneade345 Open your window, here comes the mao pill
@А For smart people to have a good image of themselves in their head, dumb people too are a necessity. Good luck being impotent, and useless
@А Ok utopian
this was cool! love the channel. as an academic i would recommend citing sources, i think it would do wonders for the channel. thanks for making content about these very interesting topics
CNT-FAI seemed awesome
Thank you so much for making this video! Loved it!
have been waiting for this one since I started watching your videos!
POUM, POUM, POUM, POUM! 🎵
I want you in my Bund🎵
Let's bash the fashs togheter🎵
Seize the means forever🎵
POUM, POUM, POUM, POUM!🎵
Cops gonna go BOOM🎵
Let's bash the fashs togheter🎵
Togheter in my Bund🎵
Oh woaw, love it!
this manage to be cringe and based at the same time what the heck?
@@segmentsAndCurves
> anarcho-communism
> cringe-based
Exactly.
From Anarchista Heaven-that-isn't, Durruti looks down and smiles.
I found it weird you left out the fact that landowners lost alot of their lands to serfs seized their lands from them and collectivized. Which was pretty cool
Nice Evangelion profile pic.
Yay! Im glad you covered this!!
Nice to see some more information about this. All I knew about it previously was from homage to catalonia, which is... not the most up to date.
Thx for the video, I did not know this happened.
Is there a source for factories being more efficient under worker control in catalonia? :)
@@Viki1999 Very interesting! I would love it if you denoted your sources in the video/description more often. Not that I don't trust you. It's just that I'm weary of my confirmation bias. Great Video by the way. I like that you both gave the necessary context as well as talked about the practical policy of the anarchists.
The only living one I know of is "cooperativa mondragón" although it's more like a conglomerate of small businesses
Great video, I'm from Catalonia and my parents where taught the history through the lenses of the fascist Franquitstas who ruled the country for 40 years opressing minorities. Even nowadays, the history books demonize a little bit the anarchists and blame them for losing the war. We have improved quite a lot in the recent years but the damage done personal and cultural is still recent and we are still under a Monarchy appointed by that Hitler's friend, Francisco Franco. Although there is a lot of nationalist rethoric in the catalan independentist movement, an important force towards it is the will to move away from the Central Satate institutions like the Monarchy and the justice branch (which is full of fascists and sons of fascists). I got to say that the independentist support was big in the referendum because the Spanish state told it's Catalan supporters that it was illegal and they should not participate on it, in reality more or less half of Catalonia support the independentist movement.
Great video one little issue , the woman in the thumbnail was a member of the PCE not a member of the CNT
Who was she?
@@pyrefly7575 Her name was Marina Ginestà. She was 17 in this photo, taken on top of the Hotel Colon at the Plaça de Catalunya during the July 1936 military uprising. She was a translator for a Pravda journalist.
Great video! Would love to see one on Rojava next from you!
goddamnit i was trynna go to bed but i have to watch this
@@Viki1999 just noticed you replied lmao, thanks for your content, its great stuff, thanks.
Awesome video I can’t explain how much I love learning about left history, and these videos Are well done and easy to understand and super interesting, thank you. 🚩🏴☠️👹
So well narrated. Thank you!
Homage to Catalonia
Great video you should do a follow video if you haven't already on the POUM and their dynamic in Spain. Especially their activity in Catalonia as well with Orwell and the crackdown by the government that forced Orwell and others to flee the war.
Happy New Year, thank you for addidng diversity to my thought proccesses.
Viki: * Mentions Syndicalism*
*Kaiserreich intensifies*
As a fellow catalan, thank you so much for this video and all the information you provided. More people should know about what happened here, and how that still affects the region. As you said in the video, here "Hitler" actually won. He had a fascist dictatorship for decades, lasting until 1975, and imho never truly disappearing.
Thank you so much!!
I don't know what it is but you're voice is great for these kinds of videos. I'm really interested in the C.N.T/F.A.I and this was very useful.
I wish that the anarchists wouldve won
"nO pAsaRan" Pasaron...
This was very interesting
Very informative thank you
Misleading thumbnail. Comrade Marina was a communist and correspondent for Pravda, not an anarchist.
Bruh.
You made me think Catalonia should be independent, I had no idea they were so based like wtf.
90%+ in the referendum too, well imagine if the that happened in Scotland there would be blood in the streets if the Uk said no.
92% in favour is a lie . In actuality people already knew that referendum wouldnt be valid so only those most passionate about independence actually went to vote . During 2017 I think around 50-51% of the population were in favour of the independence of Catalunya . Nowadays is more like 37-40% .
I myself love Catalunya and I totally support it's right to become independent, and I shame and despise The Spanish state for opressing with police brutality a simple referendum (1-O) but truth must be said in all circumstances.
I personally don't want the independence of Catalunya bcus it would mean it's doom economically, but if it weren't for that, I'd be totally on board with it
Thanks Viki, your video was as usual excellent.
I’m having trouble tracking down anything about anarchist Catalonia using Labour Vouchers. Is there a source on this?
Hey Viki1999! im loving all these videos ive been recommended your channel for a while but i just started watching. i was hoping that you'd be a ble to make a similar video about Anarchist Korea
what's the new backround flag?
Thanks for this video,information on the Anachist in power in Spain is hard to find
i was just gonna say viki, the way you used 'syndicalism' and 'anarchism' interchangeably kinda confused me because syndicalism can have trade unions sending representatives to one big trade-union congress, and then there is also a head of state, so syndicalism can exist with a state, what you were describing with catalonia is what i would define as anarcho-syndicalist.
I love your videos
A yes, anarchist Catalonia. Where a workers council had a militant police and arrested people for their beliefs. Sounds very anarchist to me.
you said it was called CNT FIA but it's CNT FAI just saying
My grand father fought during the Spanish civil war alongside anarchists and collectivists. Do you know what happened to them?, the Communists butchered them......
I got to say ideo was great and you got most things right.
About the last Catalan referendum: most people in Catalonia boycotted the vote, besides not being constitutional (but that is another can of worms of Post Franco politics). Also, the PSOE under Zapatero made a deal with Catalan Nationalists to review their autonomic status and reform it legally. But (unsurprisingly) the PP-led government by Rajoy did not honor those agreements. So Catalan Nationalists tried a coup de force with that illegal referendum. Just wanted to clarify that. Oh, and there are Catalans in France too!
CNT-FAI was a great example of how anarchist society (and any society should be run). The only way to have the emancipation of the workers is statelessness. That's why the CNT-FAI and the Makhnovia used intelligence agencies, police, and labor camps! But don't worry, all those tools of the state that we use doesn't mean we have a state.
Lol you almsot had me 😂
A third of them aren't even aware of all that, a third of them that find out about it disavow the revolution, and the last third find a way to rationalize it.
when you definitely watched the video
@@_doop8257 Yes
@@SeekerOfKnowledge87 Pretty true
The female militian in the phto wasnt an anarchist. She was a translator for a Soviet journalist
Keep on comrades:)
weve entered the end times, when the middle class wears the ribbon of anarchism
Oh I’m excited for this
Good video! Love you stuff. For this video could you link your sources? I like looking backwards at where people get their information so I can help develop my own take on the subject.
The francoists were calling the civil war some sort of "holy crusade" in their propaganda
Yay happy new year
Lovely!
is that why Franco won
Ay what are your sources i wanna read more
what was the process of workers taking over factories? if anyone knows :)
bourgeoises left the city, the workers took what it was allways theirs. end
First they seized the factories in a similar fashion as the previous comment stated, then workers took control with some issues of organization. After this, the unions stepped and, in some cases, introduced a form of organization which capitulated back into wage-labor with commodities.
Could you make a video on the Zdhanovicha and simelar i guess you could call them "ultravisionery" topics.
Great video!! Can you please do one on the Paris Commune?
Is it possible I could get a list of sources? I really liked the video btw.
10:20 tfw the anarchists are about to start centralizing their state
Happy New Year, comrades!
Anprim>syndicalism
Happy new year everyone!
16:06 "The POLICE in the region were loyal to the [ANARCHO-] syndicalists"...
... police ...
... loyal to anarchists ... 🤔
How does anyone read that sentence and not question whether they were really anarchists
I mean, what else do you call the militia roaming the streets making sure everyone plays nice and the factory owners don't get any ideas?
@@siraethelwulf8914 possibly, "the worker's militias" if sounding larpy is not your concern.
There is a city in northern Sweden where literally all cops were syndicalists in the late 1960s and early 1970s. I find that perplexing as well.
@@francisdec1615 Do you know the city's name?
@@clandestino6438 Somewhere in Lappland, Kiruna or Gällivare probably.
as an ML catalonia would have been based
Can you do a video on Gheddafi's Libya?
Viva La Falangist🟥⬛🟥
Viva La Jose Antonio Primo De Rivera
¡Presente!
The thumbnail doesn't check out with what went down really
Vencer no es convencer
K. Just found you on Tiktok. You are my fav leftist education creator.
fucking tankies
I think this is my third time watching this video. I love it.
And I'll continue to rewatch it regularly.
Really good.
Please replace all instances of "Franko" in the subtitles by "Franco". It's kind of distracting.
Hey, don't forget the POUM.
i was looking to learn about catalonia and knew the person with an anime pfp would have the best video
❤️🖤
algorythm
Sad you didn't reference the Moroccan quasi-socialist uprising in the Rif which launched Spanish workers into solidarity and Spain into the civil war.
Even though I am right wing I gotta say pretty good video. As I see it in a civil war where there are 2 roughly matched forces the deciding factor is unity of the participants.
Is that why they lost to Franco?
Too bad most unions are to weak for syndicalism to work nowadays atleast here in Germany that is.
They were defang by governments exactly because that possibility
Even back then there was a tendency for unions to attempt to reinstate capitalism and take over the means of production for themselves. CNT-FAI didn’t end commodity production or wage-labor entirely, and in some cases kind of capitulated back into it, even before the revolution was sold out by the CNT-FAI by joining with the Republicans and allowing true revolutionaries to be killed.
Syndicalism should be brought back in the 2020's
@Yeetus debeetus you obviously dont know much about history. Then again we are talking about someone using a sonnenrad so im sure you dont really give too much thought into anything lol
Join the IWW
You lost cope Viva Christo Rey
Cringe
Atheism solos
This is when Viki begins her Marxist->Anarchist transition 😤. Fingers crossed
Unphatomably based
If they had won the war, I imagine the necessary steps to survive would have led many modern anarchists to call them tankies
Lol, right? Anarchists and "liberal socialists" really don't know what to do other than hate on all succesfull state socialist countries.
@@untraceablefgc-9mkii251 I hope you are not calling failed state capitalist shitholes "successful"
@@1997lordofdoom do you have anything to show for? Please tell me why you consider state socialist projects past and current a failure.
None of them are perfect as no society will ever be, but building socialism is a process and every country has different material conditions that led them where they are. The fact that socialism hugely improved standards of living and managed to threaten the capitalist hegemony around the world would be enough already.
I wouldn’t call Marx a statist. I’ve read all his available work (based as fuck) and I can see why there are lots of libertarian marxists
Regardless, left unity all day!!!
The Paris commune
Viva la FAI
Finally - Spain
Hey vikki you were lookin pretty cute during the outro 😏
based
Oh my god I thought this video was a joke
isnt it called free territory of catalonia?
"we stand against oppression" damn bruh, didn't know gays had wholeass battleships b.
yuh we call it the gay ship
Viva catalunya libre
Coming here to learn about my anarchist cousins in the quadrant right below me
Well hello there my communist cousin in the quadrant right above me
Hello comrade, happy to meet you! Hope we all continue to listen to, learn from and work with each other! 🏴🚩✊
@@DiMadHatter calling an ancap child "comrade" lmao
@@vchk5330 they aren't an ancap, dont just judge by their profile pic.
@@vchk5330 I don't think their Avatar supposed to be an ancap symbol, I'm pretty sure it's just a black ball wearing a hard hat.
v good video,, but not entirely unbiased (not that that`s a bad thing or unintentional tho). i understand it was as a sinole overview tho and that makes sense why some parts were also without nuance,,, still enjoyed tho :)) also; ¡viva galeuzca!
1 - britanico
2 - que usa un personaje de anime con orejas de gato
I think she is austrian...
Maravilloso contraargumento