Friendly reminder to Simon that at least 5 people died in the CHAZ/CHOP zone, the father of their last victim, a black 16 year old gunned down upon driving into the zone, is currently suing the city of Seattle for allowing his son's wrongful death.
“We are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality.” Mikhail Bakunin
I went to Paris a few years ago and the thing that floored me the most was just how violent the history of Paris is. We think of it as a center of beauty and art- and it absolutely is- but there are so many revolts and revolutions in its history. My favorite anecdote from a guide was on why in a city devoted to preserving the aesthetic, including maintaining cobblestone streets, the Main Street into the Latin Quarter was paved. The answer was that the Latin Quarter is the student section of Paris, and during protests in the 1960s, the protesters barricaded the street and ripped up the cobblestones to chuck at the gendarmes. After it ended, it was decided to pave so that next time, the protesters at least wouldn’t have large quantities of rocks to use as projectiles.
That's one thing among others that love the French for ( and in some extent the Spaniards) "revolutionary thinking" its part of their culture and when they say, revolution they really mean business
@@basedkaiser5352 I think you probably just come from a right wing background so you and everyone you know hates them, but someone from a completely different background probably has the exact opposite opinion.
france to world in 18th century: "stfu or you're next!" that was their mentality when the surrounding countries thought that their revolution would spread ideas that will threaten THEIR monarchies.
Ah, little Alsace-Lorraine. Constantly torn back and forth. My great-great grandparents were from there. Even my grandmother was never sure if we were technically French or German from that side of relatives. Great-grandparents were Hungarian and Croatian (actually from there), but I've always found the Alsace-Lorraine heritage interesting, especially since there's little to know info we can find on those relatives, unfortunately.
My mom's a Lorrainer, as is her mother. Grandmother's/oma's accent always fascinated me - sounded like a German person speaking French but then speaking English.
@@Replicaate That's so cool! My maternal great-grandmother and great-uncle would speak to each other in Hungarian and German respectively. They confused everyone, because they could both understand the other language, but couldn't speak it lol. I believe it was his parents that were from there. One of the coolest stories my grandmother told me. I love learning about ancestry. Never could learn Hungarian though. Got Spanish quick, but only a few Hungarian idioms
My partner's ancestry is listed as French, though his son looks like a ckean- shaven Viking warrior. After researching it, he discovered that his ancestors lived right on that border, and their allegiance shifted with the situation.
As a French man, I can say that you are providing a fair quick overview of the Commune. The death tall of the bloody week, as you call it, is estimated to be as high as 30,000, though we will never know the real cost of lives. French people killed by French people (yes the soldiers were French.) History repeats it self all the time.
Wasn't there a big cultural divide between Paris (which was radical) and the rest of France (which was more conservative)? Paris was also full of Italian, Spanish and Polish immigrants. When Thiers's troops marched into Paris they had been subjected to weeks of propaganda about how the city had been taken over by foreigners and murderous anarchists who were "anti-French." It would be a bit like if they hired a bunch of Blackwater Mercenaries from Texas and marched them into Seattle or New York during a Black Lives Matter protest.
@@corruptikoo2683 The French are great. They don't take shit from the rich and powerful. Unlike some places that worship the rich and powerful and let them walk all over them and even go as far as defending their abuse...
@@AIPTutorials Look like you know shit of France and how bad it turn to be her big state and unproductive. "Rich and powerful" will exist always in all government form, the problem it is whwne that dereive in tyranny and oligarchy.
Lefty #1: "We literally have enemies at the gates who seek our heads, what do we do?" Lefty #2: "I know, let's devolve into ideological squabbles amongst ourselves instead of facing our common enemy!" Damn, time really be a flat circle.
Yet it's getting harder and harder to get some actual change Democratic or peaceful protest ways for 5year have now done nothing That's why our president got slapped, they only listen to violence it seems ffs
@@manuxx3543 yeah but im not entirely sure it's good or bad. i mean it's good things don't change to fast because that could create critical errors. but if it goes to slow the people grow more and more upset over time and nasty problems persist. really depends on the issue at hand and further context. I'm not gonna pretend i know a lot about French politics, but i just felt like the French ferocity when their government screws them is worthy of praise. in the USA often they have major problems devastating lives for so long it's considered part of their national identity.
@@sirstrinkalot I'll says the main issues are building up since 25year, and politics even stopped caring about making a good lie about them or anything, only absolutly obvious lies that only our medias praises, so yeah everyone is pissed off, more and more When a trainwreck is happing of decades and you see everyone being apovrished, every state service degrading, basically on our way to be a 3rd world country, any critical error would be gladly taken because at least someone will try
@@manuxx3543 i think in many places politicians suck at lying but many people don't watch them directly and god forbid doubting the news. trusting video's like this on the internet however many people believe to be stupid, they think all video's on the internet are bs which is just a really dumb blanket statement.
Right so the man in charge of the destruction of Paris and the murder of 100s of people was later elected as president? Really? That says something very disturbing about humanity especially as he became such a hero and seen as a savior getting no blame at all for his actions.
Right so people see what communism has done toe other countries and then elect such a government and don't understand if they must fight to stay alive. Really? Oh and be careful to judge. If you haven't walked in those people's shoes, I have found you can't say you would have done it differently, you might have or you might not have.
@@lts1682 Buying the propaganda and stories of people offering a chance to change what you have known and the awful way you already live is different to voting for a known killer. Which is what communist states did in the past, they claimed they'd be different where as this bloke was a known murderer. I'm judging them for voting for such a person I'm not judging anything else about them in any way at all. Sorry but actively loving and voting for a known mass murderer is very different to voting for something or someone who sells you a lie and then living with it once you do as it's far to late to change it is a different thing. Communism hid it's crimes at first same as the Nazis and I get how easy it is in a desperate situation to grasp for something offering change and to buy the lies when they are all the information you are given. That doesn't mean I don't think it was wrong and something I wouldn't do myself.
I knew France lost a war effort against Bismark's Prussia/Germany (I have no idea what to call it in this historical context) and subsequently lost Alsace and Lorraine but I had no idea any of this happened afterwards in France. Thanks for the video, learned a lot. As a side question, may I ask for you to check the volume settings on this video? I had UA-cam and my computer at max but it still sounded low.
I suspect YT is turning up the volume on its ads, which is unacceptable when I'm trying to watch a video quietly at work and suddenly an ad for tampons or ZuPoo is screaming loudly enough to be heard through a closed door halfway down the hall. Is YT turning into network TV?
The murder of the Archbishop of Paris was an unforgivable atrocity (especially considering how he was basically a liberal who apposed Pius IX), but there's no ignoring one historical irony. The Communards thought about blowing up Notre Dame but decided against it. Then in 2019, Notre Dame burned down. It wasn't communism or anarchism that destroyed the Cathedral of Paris. It was decades of neoliberal capitalism and the neglect of the public sector. Emmanual Macron succeeded where Raoul Rigault failed.
" It wasn't communism or anarchism that destroyed the Cathedral of Paris. It was decades of neoliberal capitalism and the neglect of the public sector. Emmanual Macron succeeded where Raoul Rigault failed." Cut that bullshit man, ND burned because an electricity problem in and nearby building, not because it lacked funds.
Picked up a book authored by Sophocles, titled "The Three Theban Plays". The front cover has a painting by Dore titled "The Enigma", inspired by the Paris Commune with references of Oedipus and the Sphinx.
As a direct descendant of Patric de MacMahon, I am fascinated with this French history. My grandfather Martin V. McMahon US Army , was presented with one of President MacMahon's engraved battle swords in Rouen France, 1918. I still have it to this day.
Yes, I worked for TWA in Paris during that time and it was an incredible scene in 1968. Our office on the Champs Elysees had to be guarded, as were many other US businesses. It was common to see tourists buying some of the cobblestones (paves) as souvenirs.
Fun fact: Bismarck never wanted Alsace and Lorraine, the taking of which he claimed "would earn the eternal ire of France". Unfortunately for a Hohenzollern who was gifted both the 19th century's greatest political leader and it's greatest general, he was not gifted with the ability to know when to listen to which one.
Alsace and Lorraine had a huge German minority and shared a lot of history with the Holy Roman Empire, so from his point of view I don't think he was aware if it would be a bad decision, more over, even if they didn't conquer some land to France, France will still pretty upset to have such a powerful neighbour and sooner or later there will be a war with or w/o Alsace and Lorraine.
@@mariano98ify it's well documented that the was aware and opposed it. His tantrums against his monarchs were big events. We see with the alliances and tensions of the time just how malleable and flexible the empires friendship statuses could be. Austria and Prussia fought together against Denmark, fought a war against each other and then formed an alliance. The Austro-Prussian War concluded with famously light terms imposed on the Austrians. It was fought for narrow political aims, which Bismarck intended the Frano-Prussian to be fought for. There is also the case of the French and Russians allying not long after fighting the Crimean War. The British also allied with them despite fighting against Russia and major recent tensions with France. There are a lot of other examples, such as the British and Ottomans, British and Americans and a funny little Russo-German alliance of sorts that Nicky (Tsar Nicholas) and Willy (Kaiser Wilhelm) made on a boat.
@@bobfg3130 he just wanted German unification, which he knew could be achieved without dunking on the French in the peace terms. A good parallel for the limited aims can be seen in the Austro-Prussian War's settlement in which Austria's main obligation to Prussia was to stay out of German affairs.
I thought it was just based on past socialist revolutions in general, since the game features stand-ins for 20th century socialist ideas and symbols and even a version of Karl Marx, who wasn't as influental yet during the time of the Commune. The aftermath of Disco Elysium's communist revolution doesn't seem very Commune-like either. Paris got re-built and continued to be both very radical and "the capital of the world". Revanchol got razed to the ground, all its revolutionaries killed and now the city is still a shell of its former self. In DE, liberalism won. No one's fighting for the revolution anymore, and no one except a select few people even the game makes fun of for being so useless is willing to try again. Revanchol is more like post-Soviet states (the creators are from Estonia) or countries in the Third World than bright-red, ever-burning Paris.
Always liked the images of the city centre and some neighbourhoods after the French army got done with them. Amazing what they could do with 1871 field artillery- looked like a small test run for what German cities looked liked in 1945. From General Bonaparte's whiff of grapeshot against royalists to the provisional republic's "let's hollow out whole districts" against the commune in less than 80 years. Also showing that Baron Haussmann knew what he was about, redesigning the city to give the forces of order a clear field of fire.
20:54......lost all attention to the video.....all I can do at this point is giggle and sing Don't Leave Me This Way by The Communards.....well played guys....well played!
Did anyone noticed that when he talked about the Committee of Public Safety that the Screen Banner read April 28th 1971 instead of 1871??? Guess typos are the curse of all History base channels... We Forgive and still love this Channel.
France and England are definitely historic enemies, but that doesn’t mean that Berlin and France can’t also be historic enemies (maybe France just has a habit of pissing off the country’s around it).
Nice review on the Commune, a subject that has fascinated me for years. Totally agree with the sad tradition that we leftists have on fighting among us instead of uniting to actually achieve something. You failed to mention the Key Mistake of the Communards, though: not seizing the Bank of France and its reserves, which paid handsomely Thier's army salaries while the Commune had to beg for scraps. Last thought: seeing what happened to those idealists who burned the guillotine when they lost, it's no wonder that all the posterior revolutions methodically murdered any foe, real or imaginary, before giving them any chance of retaliation.
A lot of understandable mistakes regarding the time of the video, to make it short, i would say that for the versaillais, the franco-prussian war was excellent opportunity to stop rebellious ideas from the communard, which wanted better work and living condition, which was profoundly unancceptable for the Versaillais which represented mostly the upper class, (good old class struggle). So seeing the risk of a revolution growing bigger and bigger, the army being controlled by the Versaillais letthe germans established the siege of Paris. I will stop there, there is much much more to say, but if you are a french speaker, i can only and higly recommand you the 6 hours long video from Henri guillemin, an historian, who tell you the story with many writted documents as letters, texts from personnal diaries from both Versaillais and Communards and from neutral party too.
It was leftist but not communist. The commune was made up of various factions. The Parisians wanted to be seen as legit by the French government but instead, the government took back Paris. The October revolution sees the Paris Commune as a predecessor but it just wasn't true. I think Karl Marx as well wrote that if they had enough time & centralized the banks & stuff communism would've succeeded. This justified communism even more. The real enemy of the Parisians is the rest of France made up of mostly monarchists. Every time a new republic is established, the rest of France except Paris chose monarchism. The leading up to this event was the Prussian invasion of the capital. The government left to assimilate an army to take back Paris, the rich also left. This meant that jobs weren't there anymore except the national guard. After the war was over the French government paid the Prussians. Then the government began to take away the Parisian cannons & began to dissolve the national guard. The Parisian cannons were paid for by the Parisian people to fight the war, so this angered the people. Dissolving the national guard meant that Parisians would lose their one job. So, they began revolting. Establishing a Parisian government made up of various leftists, monarchists, anarchists & whatnot. Before this Paris was directly under the main French Government. But most of them still wanted to be part of France. The French government wasn't having it and attacked & took Paris back. Paris would've been better left off not being part of France. I think that autonomy/separatism could've been a good solution. But the Parisians were not in a position to make that happen anyway.
You’re right, there is a big enmity between Paris and the rest of the countryside, but it’s not simply monarchism vs republicanism or socialism. Long before the French Revolution of 1789 the Parisians held an extraordinarily snobbish view of the rest of the country leading to the phrase “there is Paris then there is the countryside” utterly and derogatorily dismissing everything outside of Paris as simply unimportant rural backwater. During the French Revolution of 1789 Paris and her people were seen as the bloodthirsty radicals pushing for greater and greater violence by the rest of the country. A radicalism which soaked a noble idea and a real shot in so much blood that it pushed the nation from republicanism back into the arms of what was essentially an absolute monarchy in all but name. When the Communards reached out to the other cities and major towns in France in 1870/71 they received very little support as the people viewed it as ridiculous and fool hearty. Which, after reading several primary sources from the Commune (especially some from the women’s meetings), it’s little wonder as to why they were so off put. Not to mention the fact that, in a nation with a massive Catholic population (ESPECIALLY in the countryside), they imprisoned then murdered the Archbishop of Paris and several other priests. Yet they wondered why the rest of France took a great dislike to them. No matter how you cut it the Paris Commune was doomed to fail. Even IF it wasn’t so utterly incompetent and riddled with infighting, the radical nature of it wasn’t welcomed by the rest of France. Also, at no point whatsoever would autonomy/independence for Paris have ever worked or even had been on the table as any sort of viable solution.
Nothing was studied more by the Marxists and Social Democrats than the Commune. Lenin adopted the moral that Marx took from it - that it's a mistake to establish a dictatorship of the proletariat on existing institutions; you must first smash the existing institutions (government, society, religion, economy, etc.) and then erect a new edifice. Unfortunately for so many millions of people throughout the past 104 years, Lenin and the Bolsheviks were given the opportunity to try their ideas out in real time.
“We are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality.” ― Mikhail Bakunin
I've always wanted to live, for a while, in a anarchist cooperative since I've been 12 or 13. I don't think it would work on a macro scale but...I don't know, I guess I vibrate to the rhythms of anarcho syndicalism
@@NothingSubversive im familiar with crass, im an old punk rocker of 25 years. I actually have a flux of pink indians pin on my bookbag right now, lol. but more than crass, I like Conflict, Subhumans and Stiff Little Fingers. Ive seen them all numerous times except Conflict, I had tickets but they canceld their show in Brooklyn NYC but one day Ill get out there to see there old geriatric asses play.
@@serbryndenshiversthecool5928 Subhumans and Stiff Little Fingers are my shit, love both groups. I also like the scene outside the UK, like the Dead Kennedys, Youth Brigade, Germs, and Reagan Youth. I've been trying to see Subhumans live for a while but haven't had the chance yet unfortunately
@@NothingSubversive I live in jersey, but it's only a 50 minute drive to Philadelphia or NYC so I'm there alot so I've seen subhuman 6 times and the last time the singer and I had a beer at the bar and I started talking to another group of older englishman who were super cool and it turned out it was the Buzzcocks. That's what I've always loved about punk that is unheard of in other music, you can see your favorite band and then afterward they're at the merch table selling shirts. But yea no doubt the states have great punk bands but for me I've always been drawn to the brits.
Not necessarily. I am Progressive (though my voter registration is Social Anarchist--either qualifies me as Other in New Mexico) and I don't hate Simon in the least. I hate that humans have not figured out how to practice communism in an effective and appropriate manner, though that's not Simon's fault.
Another nice video on 19th century France. I like that you're bringing 19th century French history to the woefully ignorant English speaking world. You're only 20 year away from the ultimate crisis in 19th century France: the Dreyfus Affair, when the deepest abscess of the French revolution was finally lanced. I hope a video on this subject is already on your list, preferably already in production. richard -- The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. - Anatole France, _Le_Lys_Rouge_
Ok so the aristocracy and army abandoned the people of Paris and then they decided to govern themselves before the army and aristocracy came back and murdered them all, got it
Exactly, I mean, it's not like the video isn't absolutely sullied with historical inaccuracies, but this one stood out to me too. I am a big fat marxist and I know that women weren't allowed to vote in the commune. Why would someone who wants to make a bad impression of socialist revolution say something good about it that isn't true?
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Making a video about "London spikes" would be super interesting (described by George Orwell in Down and out in Paris and London). Just a suggestion!
Friendly reminder to Simon that at least 5 people died in the CHAZ/CHOP zone, the father of their last victim, a black 16 year old gunned down upon driving into the zone, is currently suing the city of Seattle for allowing his son's wrongful death.
“We are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality.”
Mikhail Bakunin
Audio's a bit low, Simon
Thank you for this high-quality channel. I use it as a class tool, and I am quite picky about accuracy. Top notch.
I went to Paris a few years ago and the thing that floored me the most was just how violent the history of Paris is. We think of it as a center of beauty and art- and it absolutely is- but there are so many revolts and revolutions in its history. My favorite anecdote from a guide was on why in a city devoted to preserving the aesthetic, including maintaining cobblestone streets, the Main Street into the Latin Quarter was paved. The answer was that the Latin Quarter is the student section of Paris, and during protests in the 1960s, the protesters barricaded the street and ripped up the cobblestones to chuck at the gendarmes. After it ended, it was decided to pave so that next time, the protesters at least wouldn’t have large quantities of rocks to use as projectiles.
That's one thing among others that love the French for ( and in some extent the Spaniards) "revolutionary thinking" its part of their culture and when they say, revolution they really mean business
Ah may 68 the good old days when students were shooting the CRS with cobblestones
@@noah95v99 and the next generations hate the « 68tard ». I’m French and we hate them.
@@basedkaiser5352 I think you probably just come from a right wing background so you and everyone you know hates them, but someone from a completely different background probably has the exact opposite opinion.
It is a center of beauty, and it is one precisely because of the countless revolutionary projects.
Not only were the guns symbols, those guns were paid for and built by the Parisians for the defense of the city, so it was an even worse idea
Well said !
The world to France: "Can you not have a revolution _for five minutes_ ?!"
France for the past 150 years: *ok*
@@Tupadre97 may 1968 & the yellow vest
france to world in 18th century: "stfu or you're next!"
that was their mentality when the surrounding countries thought that their revolution would spread ideas that will threaten THEIR monarchies.
At least the people in France have the guts to TRY to create a more just society.
@@boscodeoliveira5752 True, but more than not, in doing so, they only create more injustice and tyranny.
1:20 - Chapter 1 - Lovers & friends
4:55 - Chapter 2 - Victims
8:25 - Chapter 3 - Disenchanted
12:15 - Mid roll ads
13:40 - Chapter 4 - So cold the night
17:25 - Chapter 5 - Hold on tight
20:55 - Chapter 6 - Don't leave me this way
Thank you sir for Timestamp in video
Those are all songs by The Communards, Jimmy Summerville's band
Ah, little Alsace-Lorraine. Constantly torn back and forth. My great-great grandparents were from there. Even my grandmother was never sure if we were technically French or German from that side of relatives. Great-grandparents were Hungarian and Croatian (actually from there), but I've always found the Alsace-Lorraine heritage interesting, especially since there's little to know info we can find on those relatives, unfortunately.
My mom's a Lorrainer, as is her mother. Grandmother's/oma's accent always fascinated me - sounded like a German person speaking French but then speaking English.
@@Replicaate That's so cool! My maternal great-grandmother and great-uncle would speak to each other in Hungarian and German respectively. They confused everyone, because they could both understand the other language, but couldn't speak it lol. I believe it was his parents that were from there. One of the coolest stories my grandmother told me. I love learning about ancestry. Never could learn Hungarian though. Got Spanish quick, but only a few Hungarian idioms
@@Amarianee Hungarian I hear is VERY hard to master for anyone not a native speaker, I give you props for trying at least!
My partner's ancestry is listed as French, though his son looks like a ckean- shaven Viking warrior. After researching it, he discovered that his ancestors lived right on that border, and their allegiance shifted with the situation.
If you didn't already please have a look on the History of the "Malgré Nous" you may find it interesting at least
As a French man, I can say that you are providing a fair quick overview of the Commune. The death tall of the bloody week, as you call it, is estimated to be as high as 30,000, though we will never know the real cost of lives. French people killed by French people (yes the soldiers were French.) History repeats it self all the time.
Wasn't there a big cultural divide between Paris (which was radical) and the rest of France (which was more conservative)? Paris was also full of Italian, Spanish and Polish immigrants. When Thiers's troops marched into Paris they had been subjected to weeks of propaganda about how the city had been taken over by foreigners and murderous anarchists who were "anti-French." It would be a bit like if they hired a bunch of Blackwater Mercenaries from Texas and marched them into Seattle or New York during a Black Lives Matter protest.
Any French government: exists
French people: Viva la Revolution!
@@corruptikoo2683 The French are great. They don't take shit from the rich and powerful. Unlike some places that worship the rich and powerful and let them walk all over them and even go as far as defending their abuse...
@@AIPTutorials sometimes they do take it too far tho
@@bennyko723 they riot against climate change then riot against removing subsidies for fossil fuels.
@@AIPTutorials Look like you know shit of France and how bad it turn to be her big state and unproductive. "Rich and powerful" will exist always in all government form, the problem it is whwne that dereive in tyranny and oligarchy.
@@AIPTutorials americans be like
"The Parisians are revolting!!!"
"Yes, they could do with a bath, couldn't they?" :P
I feel like I’ve learned more from Simon than I ever learned in school
Would be getting top grades if he was my history teacher
Watch business blaze if you want to gauge his qualities as a drinking buddy
Don't watch business blaze, he tries way too hard and it's just annoying
Much more engaging than "turn to your textbook and shut the hell up" ever was. USA whattayagunnado
@@BlueBirdsProductions can't be great at everything.
"...step into the cage with a rather pissed off version of Connor McGregor."
Are there other versions of him?
Yea, the soft version that has won a single fight in 4 years. He has millions, he don't mind.
The version that tapped out against Khabib!!
Lefty #1: "We literally have enemies at the gates who seek our heads, what do we do?"
Lefty #2: "I know, let's devolve into ideological squabbles amongst ourselves instead of facing our common enemy!"
Damn, time really be a flat circle.
Why is no one see that any arnachist communist utopia always end up with a tankie dictator?
@@pingukutepro it didn't in Catalonia,in mexico and in Paris
@@auditorium.1922 because it failed
@@pingukuteprohow do you know?
Because it had been tried in multiple times. @@Catthepunk
The french truly know how to let their government know when they’ve had enough of its shit. Something other nations can learn a thing or two from.
Yet it's getting harder and harder to get some actual change
Democratic or peaceful protest ways for 5year have now done nothing
That's why our president got slapped, they only listen to violence it seems ffs
@@manuxx3543 yeah but im not entirely sure it's good or bad. i mean it's good things don't change to fast because that could create critical errors. but if it goes to slow the people grow more and more upset over time and nasty problems persist. really depends on the issue at hand and further context.
I'm not gonna pretend i know a lot about French politics, but i just felt like the French ferocity when their government screws them is worthy of praise. in the USA often they have major problems devastating lives for so long it's considered part of their national identity.
@@sirstrinkalot I'll says the main issues are building up since 25year, and politics even stopped caring about making a good lie about them or anything, only absolutly obvious lies that only our medias praises, so yeah everyone is pissed off, more and more
When a trainwreck is happing of decades and you see everyone being apovrished, every state service degrading, basically on our way to be a 3rd world country, any critical error would be gladly taken because at least someone will try
@@manuxx3543 i think in many places politicians suck at lying but many people don't watch them directly and god forbid doubting the news. trusting video's like this on the internet however many people believe to be stupid, they think all video's on the internet are bs which is just a really dumb blanket statement.
But nothing changes
If i had seen this in a movie or book i would say: "This s%%t is so unrealistic"
I think I really should shift into writing biographies--fiction has to be believable!
Love learning something I never knew before.
And if you continue with that mind set. And leave your mind open. You will be wise beyond your years. Forever grow and spread that knowledge my friend
I even love learning things I knew but have completely forgotten!!
@@HXXIIA same😅
the paris commune set the way for the socialist world of the 20th century
That was a pretty good, basic summary of the events. Nicely done.
"...these Robespierre fanboys"
Ah, viva la revolution!
"These Robespierre fanboys"
I see, they also have got no heads!
sorry to be that guy but It's actually "Vive la révolution". Viva is spanish
@@hugol4487
You're not alone . I was going to say the same thing
Right so the man in charge of the destruction of Paris and the murder of 100s of people was later elected as president? Really? That says something very disturbing about humanity especially as he became such a hero and seen as a savior getting no blame at all for his actions.
Thousands. Not hundreds. Actually close to twentythousand.
@@OmahaLasse OK even worse point remains the same though.
Right so people see what communism has done toe other countries and then elect such a government and don't understand if they must fight to stay alive. Really? Oh and be careful to judge. If you haven't walked in those people's shoes, I have found you can't say you would have done it differently, you might have or you might not have.
@@lts1682 Buying the propaganda and stories of people offering a chance to change what you have known and the awful way you already live is different to voting for a known killer. Which is what communist states did in the past, they claimed they'd be different where as this bloke was a known murderer.
I'm judging them for voting for such a person I'm not judging anything else about them in any way at all. Sorry but actively loving and voting for a known mass murderer is very different to voting for something or someone who sells you a lie and then living with it once you do as it's far to late to change it is a different thing.
Communism hid it's crimes at first same as the Nazis and I get how easy it is in a desperate situation to grasp for something offering change and to buy the lies when they are all the information you are given.
That doesn't mean I don't think it was wrong and something I wouldn't do myself.
Nah he’s a hero for getting rid of them. I’m French and I thank him.
I see you made a mistake there Simon 19:03
It should be 1871 not 1971.
Simon's numerexia strikes again!
🤣 I saw that too. Double take, put glasses on... 19? Yeah, it says 19...71.
Simon, I just wanted to say that I love these videos.
Crawler
@@googlefashists4986 how am I even supposed to respond to this
I knew France lost a war effort against Bismark's Prussia/Germany (I have no idea what to call it in this historical context) and subsequently lost Alsace and Lorraine but I had no idea any of this happened afterwards in France. Thanks for the video, learned a lot.
As a side question, may I ask for you to check the volume settings on this video? I had UA-cam and my computer at max but it still sounded low.
I suspect YT is turning up the volume on its ads, which is unacceptable when I'm trying to watch a video quietly at work and suddenly an ad for tampons or ZuPoo is screaming loudly enough to be heard through a closed door halfway down the hall. Is YT turning into network TV?
The murder of the Archbishop of Paris was an unforgivable atrocity (especially considering how he was basically a liberal who apposed Pius IX), but there's no ignoring one historical irony. The Communards thought about blowing up Notre Dame but decided against it. Then in 2019, Notre Dame burned down. It wasn't communism or anarchism that destroyed the Cathedral of Paris. It was decades of neoliberal capitalism and the neglect of the public sector. Emmanual Macron succeeded where Raoul Rigault failed.
Hollande? Not really someone who anyone thinks of as neoliberal.
@@somethinglikethat2176 Hollande (like Blair and Clinton) is definitely a neoliberal, but he wasn't President in 2018.
" It wasn't communism or anarchism that destroyed the Cathedral of Paris. It was decades of neoliberal capitalism and the neglect of the public sector. Emmanual Macron succeeded where Raoul Rigault failed." Cut that bullshit man, ND burned because an electricity problem in and nearby building, not because it lacked funds.
Nobody :
The Paris Commune :
Robespierre : *chop chop chop chop chop chop chop*
robespierre did not live to see the commune, he died in the late 1700s
Picked up a book authored by Sophocles, titled "The Three Theban Plays". The front cover has a painting by Dore titled "The Enigma", inspired by the Paris Commune with references of Oedipus and the Sphinx.
20:52 “don’t leave me this way”
Paris Communards
Genius!!!!!
As a direct descendant of Patric de MacMahon, I am fascinated with this French history. My grandfather Martin V. McMahon US Army , was presented with one of President MacMahon's engraved battle swords in Rouen France, 1918. I still have it to this day.
History explained eloquently by you Simon is something else ❤❤😢
Yes, I worked for TWA in Paris during that time and it was an incredible scene in 1968. Our office on the Champs Elysees had to be guarded, as were many other US businesses. It was common to see tourists buying some of the cobblestones (paves) as souvenirs.
This video is talking about events 100 and 190 years befor that. 1871, not 1971
I was actually gonna ask you to do this just the other day! Thank you!!!
Fun fact: Bismarck never wanted Alsace and Lorraine, the taking of which he claimed "would earn the eternal ire of France".
Unfortunately for a Hohenzollern who was gifted both the 19th century's greatest political leader and it's greatest general, he was not gifted with the ability to know when to listen to which one.
I think Bismarck would have been far more satisfied with more money or getting gold from some French mines or silver. Or both.
Alsace and Lorraine had a huge German minority and shared a lot of history with the Holy Roman Empire, so from his point of view I don't think he was aware if it would be a bad decision, more over, even if they didn't conquer some land to France, France will still pretty upset to have such a powerful neighbour and sooner or later there will be a war with or w/o Alsace and Lorraine.
@@mariano98ify
Not the case. Land makes things worse. Without Alsace and Lorraine the chances France would hold a grudge like it did would be lower.
@@mariano98ify it's well documented that the was aware and opposed it. His tantrums against his monarchs were big events.
We see with the alliances and tensions of the time just how malleable and flexible the empires friendship statuses could be. Austria and Prussia fought together against Denmark, fought a war against each other and then formed an alliance. The Austro-Prussian War concluded with famously light terms imposed on the Austrians. It was fought for narrow political aims, which Bismarck intended the Frano-Prussian to be fought for.
There is also the case of the French and Russians allying not long after fighting the Crimean War. The British also allied with them despite fighting against Russia and major recent tensions with France.
There are a lot of other examples, such as the British and Ottomans, British and Americans and a funny little Russo-German alliance of sorts that Nicky (Tsar Nicholas) and Willy (Kaiser Wilhelm) made on a boat.
@@bobfg3130 he just wanted German unification, which he knew could be achieved without dunking on the French in the peace terms.
A good parallel for the limited aims can be seen in the Austro-Prussian War's settlement in which Austria's main obligation to Prussia was to stay out of German affairs.
I'm a simple man
I see Paris Commune
I press 👍
Can we get a video on the Neolithic structures on Malta? Specifically, the Hypogeum of Hal Saflieni, and it's acoustic similarities to Newgrange?
Epic start to the morning
The history of Disco Elysium is largely based on this event.
Yo, that comment tho. It opened my eyes.
Such a great game!!!!! Good shout
@@jusjost most bodacious
Thank you.
I thought it was just based on past socialist revolutions in general, since the game features stand-ins for 20th century socialist ideas and symbols and even a version of Karl Marx, who wasn't as influental yet during the time of the Commune.
The aftermath of Disco Elysium's communist revolution doesn't seem very Commune-like either. Paris got re-built and continued to be both very radical and "the capital of the world". Revanchol got razed to the ground, all its revolutionaries killed and now the city is still a shell of its former self. In DE, liberalism won. No one's fighting for the revolution anymore, and no one except a select few people even the game makes fun of for being so useless is willing to try again. Revanchol is more like post-Soviet states (the creators are from Estonia) or countries in the Third World than bright-red, ever-burning Paris.
1971? Wow. This happened more recently than I was aware.
1871*
Essentially, what ended the Paris Commune was that the people could not agree how to *RUN* the place. That disorganization led to its quick downfall.
Pretty much.
I think the invading army had a hand in it as well
They were literally flattened by a larger army...
You'd think France's leaders would know the history
1868-1936 Spanish Anarchy please do!
As always, very well compiled and clearly depicted covering of a historic event.
Yes, with a few mistakes like writing 1971 instead of 1871.
Completely missed that one as I was in the right century in my mind. 😁
There was a minor error in at timestamp 19:06 the date in the below border April, 28th, 1971 supposed to be 1871.
Always liked the images of the city centre and some neighbourhoods after the French army got done with them. Amazing what they could do with 1871 field artillery- looked like a small test run for what German cities looked liked in 1945. From General Bonaparte's whiff of grapeshot against royalists to the provisional republic's "let's hollow out whole districts" against the commune in less than 80 years. Also showing that Baron Haussmann knew what he was about, redesigning the city to give the forces of order a clear field of fire.
20:54......lost all attention to the video.....all I can do at this point is giggle and sing Don't Leave Me This Way by The Communards.....well played guys....well played!
Did anyone noticed that when he talked about the Committee of Public Safety that the Screen Banner read April 28th 1971 instead of 1871??? Guess typos are the curse of all History base channels... We Forgive and still love this Channel.
Good gracious, I love your comments! Truth is...
Simon: "By declaring war on Berlins historical enemy.... France"
Me: *laughs in english*
France and England are definitely historic enemies, but that doesn’t mean that Berlin and France can’t also be historic enemies (maybe France just has a habit of pissing off the country’s around it).
I think Simon is the only person I can watch talk about history
Kolhoz where my grandparents were working was named after Paris Commune 😅
I like what you did there with The Communards songs
Wow there's so many historical innacuracies within a couple minutes that I don't even know where to start!
Brilliant Episode.
So this is where Monty Python got all their french dialogue!
Good video 👍
whomever said "history has a habit of repeating itself" failed to mention that by 'habit' they mean addiction...somethings don't change.
Nice review on the Commune, a subject that has fascinated me for years. Totally agree with the sad tradition that we leftists have on fighting among us instead of uniting to actually achieve something.
You failed to mention the Key Mistake of the Communards, though: not seizing the Bank of France and its reserves, which paid handsomely Thier's army salaries while the Commune had to beg for scraps.
Last thought: seeing what happened to those idealists who burned the guillotine when they lost, it's no wonder that all the posterior revolutions methodically murdered any foe, real or imaginary, before giving them any chance of retaliation.
The Paris Commune is an example of both what to do in peacetime and what to absolutely never do in wartime.
Most righteous as always Simon! Be well friend!
is it weird to say i'd been hoping you would do a video on this? well thanks.
Yes.
Well done!
"Don't leave me this way"
I see what you did there.
Glad you covered this one!!!!
A yes France being France.
I think Simon had a little too much fun with the analogies in this video lol
A lot of understandable mistakes regarding the time of the video, to make it short, i would say that for the versaillais, the franco-prussian war was excellent opportunity to stop rebellious ideas from the communard, which wanted better work and living condition, which was profoundly unancceptable for the Versaillais which represented mostly the upper class, (good old class struggle). So seeing the risk of a revolution growing bigger and bigger, the army being controlled by the Versaillais letthe germans established the siege of Paris. I will stop there, there is much much more to say, but if you are a french speaker, i can only and higly recommand you the 6 hours long video from Henri guillemin, an historian, who tell you the story with many writted documents as letters, texts from personnal diaries from both Versaillais and Communards and from neutral party too.
It was leftist but not communist. The commune was made up of various factions. The Parisians wanted to be seen as legit by the French government but instead, the government took back Paris. The October revolution sees the Paris Commune as a predecessor but it just wasn't true. I think Karl Marx as well wrote that if they had enough time & centralized the banks & stuff communism would've succeeded. This justified communism even more. The real enemy of the Parisians is the rest of France made up of mostly monarchists. Every time a new republic is established, the rest of France except Paris chose monarchism. The leading up to this event was the Prussian invasion of the capital. The government left to assimilate an army to take back Paris, the rich also left. This meant that jobs weren't there anymore except the national guard. After the war was over the French government paid the Prussians. Then the government began to take away the Parisian cannons & began to dissolve the national guard. The Parisian cannons were paid for by the Parisian people to fight the war, so this angered the people. Dissolving the national guard meant that Parisians would lose their one job. So, they began revolting. Establishing a Parisian government made up of various leftists, monarchists, anarchists & whatnot. Before this Paris was directly under the main French Government. But most of them still wanted to be part of France. The French government wasn't having it and attacked & took Paris back. Paris would've been better left off not being part of France. I think that autonomy/separatism could've been a good solution. But the Parisians were not in a position to make that happen anyway.
I don't disagree with a lot of what you said, but how does rich people leaving take away any of the factories that they owned?
You’re right, there is a big enmity between Paris and the rest of the countryside, but it’s not simply monarchism vs republicanism or socialism. Long before the French Revolution of 1789 the Parisians held an extraordinarily snobbish view of the rest of the country leading to the phrase “there is Paris then there is the countryside” utterly and derogatorily dismissing everything outside of Paris as simply unimportant rural backwater. During the French Revolution of 1789 Paris and her people were seen as the bloodthirsty radicals pushing for greater and greater violence by the rest of the country. A radicalism which soaked a noble idea and a real shot in so much blood that it pushed the nation from republicanism back into the arms of what was essentially an absolute monarchy in all but name. When the Communards reached out to the other cities and major towns in France in 1870/71 they received very little support as the people viewed it as ridiculous and fool hearty. Which, after reading several primary sources from the Commune (especially some from the women’s meetings), it’s little wonder as to why they were so off put. Not to mention the fact that, in a nation with a massive Catholic population (ESPECIALLY in the countryside), they imprisoned then murdered the Archbishop of Paris and several other priests. Yet they wondered why the rest of France took a great dislike to them. No matter how you cut it the Paris Commune was doomed to fail. Even IF it wasn’t so utterly incompetent and riddled with infighting, the radical nature of it wasn’t welcomed by the rest of France. Also, at no point whatsoever would autonomy/independence for Paris have ever worked or even had been on the table as any sort of viable solution.
Don't leave me this way, yours sincerely, The Communards .. lmao.
Nothing was studied more by the Marxists and Social Democrats than the Commune. Lenin adopted the moral that Marx took from it - that it's a mistake to establish a dictatorship of the proletariat on existing institutions; you must first smash the existing institutions (government, society, religion, economy, etc.) and then erect a new edifice. Unfortunately for so many millions of people throughout the past 104 years, Lenin and the Bolsheviks were given the opportunity to try their ideas out in real time.
Great summary- but noticed a typo around 19:00-- 1971....
The background music is a little too loud, just my opinion. I want to hear Simon.
Good historical background. Confirms what KM said about society being the result of historical conditions.
That’s a good look. After everything that just happened in Paris, he moves the capital to Versailles. Not the brightest star in the sky.
Great video!!
“We are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality.”
― Mikhail Bakunin
Noticed a typo at 19:06. It says 1971 instead of 1871.
Don’t leave me this way… we see what you did there!👏👏👏
Do not reference the Gilets Jaunes in this. The commune was, as you said, a space from which many contemporary ideas and political values emerged.
One of the most influential events in history honestly
Damn right! 🏴✊🚩
I need to agree on this. Perhaps one day our ideoogy will finally get a chance, comrades. A=O
It's a minor blip.
Humanity in itself is a minor blip. This one still took Europe into a new age. The age of social progress.
I've always wanted to live, for a while, in a anarchist cooperative since I've been 12 or 13. I don't think it would work on a macro scale but...I don't know, I guess I vibrate to the rhythms of anarcho syndicalism
Read about the band Crass, they lived on a farm in Essex which was an anarchist commune. Look up Dial House
@@NothingSubversive im familiar with crass, im an old punk rocker of 25 years. I actually have a flux of pink indians pin on my bookbag right now, lol. but more than crass, I like Conflict, Subhumans and Stiff Little Fingers. Ive seen them all numerous times except Conflict, I had tickets but they canceld their show in Brooklyn NYC but one day Ill get out there to see there old geriatric asses play.
@@serbryndenshiversthecool5928 Subhumans and Stiff Little Fingers are my shit, love both groups. I also like the scene outside the UK, like the Dead Kennedys, Youth Brigade, Germs, and Reagan Youth. I've been trying to see Subhumans live for a while but haven't had the chance yet unfortunately
@@NothingSubversive I live in jersey, but it's only a 50 minute drive to Philadelphia or NYC so I'm there alot so I've seen subhuman 6 times and the last time the singer and I had a beer at the bar and I started talking to another group of older englishman who were super cool and it turned out it was the Buzzcocks. That's what I've always loved about punk that is unheard of in other music, you can see your favorite band and then afterward they're at the merch table selling shirts. But yea no doubt the states have great punk bands but for me I've always been drawn to the brits.
The left is gonna hate Simon in this video
Not necessarily. I am Progressive (though my voter registration is Social Anarchist--either qualifies me as Other in New Mexico) and I don't hate Simon in the least. I hate that humans have not figured out how to practice communism in an effective and appropriate manner, though that's not Simon's fault.
Another nice video on 19th century France. I like that you're bringing 19th century French history to the woefully ignorant English speaking world. You're only 20 year away from the ultimate crisis in 19th century France: the Dreyfus Affair, when the deepest abscess of the French revolution was finally lanced. I hope a video on this subject is already on your list, preferably already in production.
richard
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The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.
- Anatole France, _Le_Lys_Rouge_
Filled it with gasoline? Did they have gasoline in those days? Stockpiling it for the future invention of the motor car.
Ok so the aristocracy and army abandoned the people of Paris and then they decided to govern themselves before the army and aristocracy came back and murdered them all, got it
This is true.
& then the Communards went on to make some good 80s disco tunes.
How bout a video on Americas Largest Home?
I notice that Victor Hugo didn't die on the barricades.
If my professors were like Simon's channels, I'd have remembered a hell of a lot more. All the best! -OGLegend in Cleveland
One of your subtitle dates is incorrect. It said 1971 instead of 1871. Great show though.
Great video but I don't think it's true that women could vote in the commune. Is there a definitive record on that?
Exactly, I mean, it's not like the video isn't absolutely sullied with historical inaccuracies, but this one stood out to me too. I am a big fat marxist and I know that women weren't allowed to vote in the commune. Why would someone who wants to make a bad impression of socialist revolution say something good about it that isn't true?
I only watch these videos to hear him pronoune "behemoth" as "beer moth".
Same here. I always found it weird but with him being from the old dart, I just assume that's the proper way to say it. Queen's English and all that.
He's actually saying "Bay-eh-moth"
@@QBCPerdition doesn't sound like it
Marx said that history repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as farce because of Napoléon III, but this is a much better example.
Do a video on SeaLand!
How you doin Simon? ;)
4:05 a certain Logan Paul would have something to say about that...
Could you cover Arabian Desert?
The Arabian Desert is pretty big, you'd need a good size tarp to cover all of it
@@Flum666 I mean video idea
In America we call these Autonomous Zones
dude, this is history
"To come and super-kill you".... ok I am totally stealing 'super-kill' as a ... uh.. ad..verb? jective? fuck I dont remember. Im just stealing it.
This sounds a little similar to the chaz lol
Because nearly every Socialist and Commie states model itself after the Commune...
except the Paris Commune was a million times better
Your recording volume is too low.
Ah, bring me back to the good ol days.
Unless you live in France. Then it brings back last year's yellow vest barricades.
The past was the worst
every socialist revolution was inspired by this one
When's Nestor Makhno?