I found the Saber Staff effective enough for most of the game, but I got outright stuck at Alora on Taspir with the Saber Staff, where I had killed her first try with a single blade. Really weird.
yeah so the way the saberstaff functions is all of it's attacks are directed to the center of the opponent, which turns out to be really bad for killing things fast in this game. The AI of the NPCs functions to try and both attack but damage block a TON for a "realistic" lightsaber combat feel; because of this front-central body focused attacks have a really high probability of having their damage blocked (you'll see white sparks and hear a certain audio). Also the crouch + W combat maneuver where Jaden's spins the saber really fast does a ton of damage, but once again either damage blocking because front-central attack or you'll proc unfavorable enemy AI (very likely) where they jump around or run away from you. The way to combat this is either dual sabers because of the outward->in focus of the attacks for the crouch + w combat maneuver (easiest to use so probably best if people are unfamiliar) or using vertical red on single saber because you can quick draw giving the AI less time to react and also it has a higher parry value than the majority of attacks/styles so you can cut through their saber or cause them to be stunned preventing damage blocking ez pz
haha thanks! I spent soooo much time in JK2 multiplayer just doing saber mechanics for the purpose of 1v1 dueling. Absolutely love how insanely complex it gets really really quickly!
Yeah so if you are looking for Multiplayer stuff, a lot of the things in this video don't work, especially the force speed and quick draw stuff. The entire discussion of turning is incredibly important if you want to work on something, but I have no idea how that would transfer to a dual-analog style of play, would be very weird for me to think about haha
@@CovertMuffin1 your overlay for the mouse in the video is actually very similar to how the right analog would have to move on console, but as long as we put our sensitivity to max to wiggle the same way :) WASD is the same as left stick but an interesting benefit is being able to angle the stick slightly forward while doing horizontal swipes allow us to have a slight forward momentum even in the moments we initiate a horizontal swipe. This is mainly because the stick has access to all 360 degrees of control. That being said, dual analog requires a vast amount of effort to do the same as kb+m
kind of, but they are not really alike at all. I imagine Nioh based a lot of the "weight" of its styles off of the concept brought in by the developers of these Jedi Knight games, but they are very different. DEFINITELY worth looking into the games!! JKA/JKO have a much more complex system where the attacking directions are based off of WASD directional inputs, and the game actively tracks what makes up for the next follow up direction. ie. Swing the saber to the left it is clear that swinging the saber to the right would be the next logical step. Except the heavy style, which is too heavy to be able to alter the direction in that way, so repeated same horizontal/vertical direction is best. Beyond that paragraph, I could write 10 pages on various things that are effective and how to utilize single saber combat.
@@CovertMuffin1 I actually got the game and I can tell I will probably utilize them all in a fight. :D I may come back to brush up on my saber combat in the future.
because it's gross hahaha To be completely honest it's a meme in the community where we joke about Firebrand be the best/worst and red lightsaber being OP even though the effects are purely cosmetic.
Nice! it is very fun to play through this game using cheats to unlock saber styles early! Some of my favorite playthroughs when I played this game casually a while back was saberstaff for the full game; good stuff
Between styles? So I run single saber and you only really need heavy style once you get that t2 missions starting with Vjun2 and on unless you are doing some meme strats or movement tech. Beyond that for dual sabers you only ever have them activated unless you are doing a movement glitch and saber staff we don't use due to the central damage of the weapon which is not very effective vs NPCs for quick kills.
Thank you for uploading this video. My whole playstyle has changed just from watching this.
*Me watching this while using the Firebland hilt on the switch* Oh. Ok.
I like the shiver term better than the wiggle XD just saw this vid amazing work Muff
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I found the Saber Staff effective enough for most of the game, but I got outright stuck at Alora on Taspir with the Saber Staff, where I had killed her first try with a single blade. Really weird.
yeah so the way the saberstaff functions is all of it's attacks are directed to the center of the opponent, which turns out to be really bad for killing things fast in this game. The AI of the NPCs functions to try and both attack but damage block a TON for a "realistic" lightsaber combat feel; because of this front-central body focused attacks have a really high probability of having their damage blocked (you'll see white sparks and hear a certain audio). Also the crouch + W combat maneuver where Jaden's spins the saber really fast does a ton of damage, but once again either damage blocking because front-central attack or you'll proc unfavorable enemy AI (very likely) where they jump around or run away from you.
The way to combat this is either dual sabers because of the outward->in focus of the attacks for the crouch + w combat maneuver (easiest to use so probably best if people are unfamiliar) or using vertical red on single saber because you can quick draw giving the AI less time to react and also it has a higher parry value than the majority of attacks/styles so you can cut through their saber or cause them to be stunned preventing damage blocking ez pz
The Firebrand hilt is the only hilt you can use in this game that doesn’t look like it’ll cut into your hands.
heads up this video is gonna make a Vertex master thank you, you mad lad
superb video
I sucked at saber fighting back in 2005 when the game was new 😂
haha thanks! I spent soooo much time in JK2 multiplayer just doing saber mechanics for the purpose of 1v1 dueling. Absolutely love how insanely complex it gets really really quickly!
best lightsaber duel system by far!
these unintentional technicalities that people find in games always make them exponentially funnier to play, no exceptions!
Everyone sucks at saber fighting in this game until they realize that saberstaff is garbage and strong style is king.
I miss GripKicking with JA+ mod back in the days, spend so much time on this game :D
How do you get a red light saber it’s not an option for me?
jkhub.org/forums/topic/9976-all-console-commands/
actually it literally is explained how to do this in the video hahah
Lol got this on switch and I’m trying to step my game up feel like i get it but I don’t at the same time
Yeah so if you are looking for Multiplayer stuff, a lot of the things in this video don't work, especially the force speed and quick draw stuff. The entire discussion of turning is incredibly important if you want to work on something, but I have no idea how that would transfer to a dual-analog style of play, would be very weird for me to think about haha
@@CovertMuffin1 your overlay for the mouse in the video is actually very similar to how the right analog would have to move on console, but as long as we put our sensitivity to max to wiggle the same way :)
WASD is the same as left stick but an interesting benefit is being able to angle the stick slightly forward while doing horizontal swipes allow us to have a slight forward momentum even in the moments we initiate a horizontal swipe. This is mainly because the stick has access to all 360 degrees of control.
That being said, dual analog requires a vast amount of effort to do the same as kb+m
If they remade this like Resident Evil 2 was remade I would buy it again.
It doesn't need any shitty remakes. It's timeless.
So the Red, Yellow and Blue are like Nioh's Stances? I want this game now, I love sword fighting games with Stance selection.
kind of, but they are not really alike at all. I imagine Nioh based a lot of the "weight" of its styles off of the concept brought in by the developers of these Jedi Knight games, but they are very different. DEFINITELY worth looking into the games!!
JKA/JKO have a much more complex system where the attacking directions are based off of WASD directional inputs, and the game actively tracks what makes up for the next follow up direction. ie. Swing the saber to the left it is clear that swinging the saber to the right would be the next logical step. Except the heavy style, which is too heavy to be able to alter the direction in that way, so repeated same horizontal/vertical direction is best. Beyond that paragraph, I could write 10 pages on various things that are effective and how to utilize single saber combat.
@@CovertMuffin1 I actually got the game and I can tell I will probably utilize them all in a fight. :D
I may come back to brush up on my saber combat in the future.
Why should I stay away from firebrand hilts you say?
because it's gross hahaha To be completely honest it's a meme in the community where we joke about Firebrand be the best/worst and red lightsaber being OP even though the effects are purely cosmetic.
Where do you guys play JKA on PC?? i just got it on Xbox but i want pvp
Steam
cd-rom
Awesome vid
Okay is it me or is the player base so low that when I play online on my switch I get in matches with the same people? At least in duels
How did you get the onscreen keyboard to work?
It is a window capture of a program called nohboard
I beat this game twice: using 2 sabers and using blue style only...
Nice! it is very fun to play through this game using cheats to unlock saber styles early! Some of my favorite playthroughs when I played this game casually a while back was saberstaff for the full game; good stuff
How do you change your sabers?
Between styles? So I run single saber and you only really need heavy style once you get that t2 missions starting with Vjun2 and on unless you are doing some meme strats or movement tech. Beyond that for dual sabers you only ever have them activated unless you are doing a movement glitch and saber staff we don't use due to the central damage of the weapon which is not very effective vs NPCs for quick kills.
@@CovertMuffin1 thank you
I don't get tought by sith
All the Jedi academy videos are for PC
where's the Xbox tips?
Because nobody cares. Sorry dude.
I would get it on pc when you can. It's easy to pick up and play. Real cheap too like 3 dollars on gog and steam
The only real difference is using a control stick versus "wasd" on a keyboard.
Bruh 10/10 holy shit
Nice trick
Subbing right now!!
I'm better with single blade set with medium style
Dude, Firebrand is still better than Sentinel.